1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:06,479 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Here is an episode from our ten episode 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: playlist that we're calling Offbeat History. Yeah, we're adding this 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: to our our regular publishing schedule as one kind of 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: big drop all at the same time on March nineteen, 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: and that is so that you have maybe have a 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: little bit of extra entertainment options available to you, particularly 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: if you are self quarantined or sheltering in place. Welcome 8 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: to Stuff you missed in History Class a production of 9 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. Hello, and welcome to the podcast. I'm 10 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: Holly Fry and I'm Tracy V. Wilson. Uh So, the US, 11 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: as well as many other parts of the world, but 12 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: we're talking about the US today has a well established 13 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: farming tradition and livestock is a huge part of that. 14 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: So when you think about American farming, you may envision 15 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: herds of cattle, or pig farms or even free range 16 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: chick ends when you think about what the livestock landscape 17 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: looks like. But there was a time when a very 18 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: different animal was being considered as a potential source of meat. 19 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: Uh This is one of those episodes that turned into 20 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: two because there is so much wild and really enjoyable 21 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: stuff here, and even so uh, two of the main 22 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: characters could easily fill episodes on their own outside of 23 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: what we include in this episode. And there's even more 24 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: to this story than we can include in two episodes. 25 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: But today we're going to talk about those two men 26 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: in their early lives and what led them to a 27 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: really wild partnership where they were working to try to 28 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: convince the US Congress, the press, and wealthy investors that 29 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: hippo bacon was the food that should be on American plates. 30 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: I really did just say hippo bacon. That's a bad idea. 31 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: This is such a wild story because that in and 32 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: of itself is kind of like a when I have 33 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: told people that this is what I was researching to 34 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: talk about, that sends them into peals of laughter and 35 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: like they are very excited to talk about it. But 36 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: then there's so much more because this is a story 37 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:09,399 Speaker 1: with spies in it, swampland congress wars, as well as 38 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: of course hippos. So in nineteen ten, the United States 39 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: was really facing a big meat shortage. Immigration had caused 40 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: a huge surge in population and the meat industry really 41 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: couldn't keep up. Its attempts to keep up had led 42 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: to some pretty dicey and disgusting practices, and additionally, overgrazing 43 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: of food animals had caused really serious damage to the 44 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: lands where cattle were normally raised. Things were becoming dire 45 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: enough that people were considering using dogs as food, which 46 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: is a normal part of cuisine and other parts of 47 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 1: the world, but it's definitely taboo in the United States. Yeah, basically, 48 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: there were a lot of people brainstorming a lot of 49 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: different ways that we could supplement the meat um supply 50 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: here in the US as things were getting really, really 51 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: quite dire for a lot of people. But the grazing 52 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: lands that still did work that we're still viable. We're 53 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: already occupied by cattle and a lot of them. As 54 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: we said, we're in terrible shape even for that. However, 55 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: one thing that is very prevalent, particularly in the Southeast, 56 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: are swamps and bayous, and they were not being used 57 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: for farming. They were largely regarded at this point as 58 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: waste land. And moreover, uh, the floating water hyacinth that 59 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: was found in these swamp lands was growing out of control. 60 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,679 Speaker 1: Water hyacinth had originated in the Amazon Basin and it's 61 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: considered an invasive nuisance plant because it can choke up 62 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: natural waterways, and it's extremely heavy. An acre, which is 63 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: a little less than half a hector of these plants 64 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: can weigh as much as two hundred tons, which is 65 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: more than a hundred and eighty one thousand kilograms. And 66 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: the water hyacinth was introduced to the US in eighteen 67 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: eighty four at the New Orleans Exposition, and it was 68 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: a gift from the Japanese delegation. But once it was 69 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: accepted as a gift and moved into the area, it's 70 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: spread at a downright alarming rate. Water hyacinth actually grows 71 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: more quickly than any other tested plants. Within seventy years 72 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: of reaching Florida, this plant had covered an estimated hundred 73 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: and twenty six thousand acres that's fifty hectares of waterways, 74 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: and it made them very difficult to traverse by boat. 75 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: It was really clogging up the existing system I imagine, 76 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: crowding out other other plant and animal life. Correct to 77 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: fight the overgrowing plant species and to try to provide 78 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: a new answer to what the media was calling the 79 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: meat question, Robert Brussard, who was a congressman from Louisiana, 80 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: hatched a plan they would import hippos. The hippos would 81 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: theoretically eat all the hyacinth, and then they would be 82 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: used for their meat. But Brussard couldn't convince the rest 83 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: of Congress that his idea would work without help from 84 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: some experts. In addition to a researcher named William Newton 85 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: Irwin who actually specialized in fruit trees but was very 86 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: interested in the viability of this hippo idea, Brussar brought 87 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: two men together for his team of experts, named Frederick 88 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: Russell Burnham and Fritz Duchane. Frederick Russell Burnham was an 89 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 1: explorer and a really intense man. He's rumored to be 90 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: one of the potential inspirations for Indiana Jones. He thought 91 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: that quote civilizing Africa was an important effort. Yeah, that's 92 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: kind of just a quick We're going to talk a 93 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: lot more about him in a minute, but that sort 94 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: of gives you an idea of kind of who he 95 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: was in terms of being an explorer and a conqueror 96 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: of sorts. On the other hand, Fritz Duchaine was a chameleon. Uh. 97 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: He was, And this is one of those words that 98 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: were going to get a million pronunciation corrections on because 99 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: there are many different ways to say it, um the 100 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: Dutch or for CON's version, my understanding is Boer, but 101 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: Boer is very common in the when you're a native 102 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:13,559 Speaker 1: English speaker, or even like just or even Bore. Yeah, 103 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: there are a lot of ways people say this word. 104 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: So his family were descendants of Dutch settlers who had 105 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: moved to Africa, and Duquesne really has a fascinating life story. 106 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: He used numerous aliases throughout his life and in many 107 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: ways was considered a grade A con man. Both Burnham 108 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: and Duquesne had fought in the Second Boer War on 109 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: opposite sides. The Second Boer War, also called the South 110 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: African War or the Anglo bor War, went on from 111 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: October eleventh eight to May thirty first, nineteen o two. 112 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: Great Britain went to war against two Bore republics, the 113 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: South African Republic and the Orange Free State. This was 114 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: an expensive war for Britain, though their troops really far 115 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: outnumbered the Boar troops at five hundred thousand British troops 116 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: to the Boers thousand. Yeah, you would think they were uh. 117 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: They they had the enemy so outgunned that it would 118 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: be a quick in and out, but it really costs 119 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: them a lot, both to send the people there in 120 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: the first place and to maintain it. Uh So, in 121 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: this war, Burnham worked as a spy for the British 122 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: and Duquesne as a spy for the Boers. The two 123 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: men were actually given missions to kill one another during 124 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: the conflict, although they probably never knew each other personally. 125 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: So that brings up the question of how did they 126 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: both end up working to bring hippos to Louisiana. So 127 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna tell that story starting with talking about Burnham. 128 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: And first though, we're gonna have a brief word from 129 00:07:48,320 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: a sponsor. So Frederick Russell Burnham, as we said, we're 130 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,239 Speaker 1: going to talk about him in a bit more detail, 131 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: was born in southern Minnesota in eighteen sixty one. So 132 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: during the Dakota War of eighteen sixty two and even 133 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: after that, the Burnhams often found themselves in danger being 134 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: white settlers in this area, and at times Frederick's father, 135 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: who was actually a Presbyterian minister, would arm himself to 136 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: protect his wife and child against attacks that were sometimes 137 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: made on white settlers, and there were several times they 138 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: found themselves in danger of being attacked. When Frederick was 139 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: two and his father Edwin was away, his mother Rebecca 140 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: saw a group of Lakoda men emerging from the forest 141 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: near their home. She knew that she could not run 142 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: from them while also carrying a toddler, so she hid 143 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: Frederick in a pile of corn and told him to 144 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: stay still and be quiet. She then ran six miles, 145 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: which is a little less than ten kilometers. Meanwhile, the 146 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: Lakota men she had seen burned the house down, but 147 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: little Frederick stayed quiet and still as he had been 148 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: instructed to do, and he was still waiting there silently 149 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: in the corn pile the next morning when his mother 150 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: got back. Yeah, that's one of those incidents where, when 151 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: he recounted it later, he would say that was like 152 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: the beginning of his training as a scout in a spy. Uh. 153 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: He stayed tough as nails throughout his childhood. At the 154 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: age of nine, he actually punctured a lung when a 155 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: log fell on him, but he recovered and he continued 156 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: to be very adventurous. He his spirit did not seem 157 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: dampened by this injury at all. The family moved briefly 158 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: to California, a couple of years later, although Edwin did 159 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: not live much longer than that, and after his death, 160 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: Rebecca returned east and Frederick, who was only thirteen at 161 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: the time, decided he was going to stay behind and 162 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 1: get a job, in part to pay off the money 163 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: that Rebecca had had to borrow to finance her travel 164 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: back home. He sort of famed for often riding horse 165 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: after horse to exhaustion, so he would basically just ride 166 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: a horse till it couldn't go anymore. He wouldn't take 167 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: a break, he would just switch to a new mount 168 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: when that previous one was exhausted, and then he would 169 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: continue to run messages. And he worked from a base 170 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: of operations in Los Angeles, and from there he ran 171 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: roots out to Anaheim, Santa Monica, and Pasadena. So he 172 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: just was kind of this tireless, hard working, super adventurous kid. 173 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 1: And again he was only thirteen when he was doing 174 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: all of this. When he was fourteen, he briefly lived 175 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: with relatives in Clinton, Iowa, but he became bored and 176 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: restless pretty quickly, so he ran away. A year later. 177 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 1: He made his way down the Mississippi in a stolen canoe, 178 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: eventually ending up in Texas. There he met an old 179 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: scout named Holmes, who taught him all about how to 180 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: make his way through varying types of terrain. Holmes and 181 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: other old timers in the area gave Burnham a whole 182 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 1: education in the skills he would need in survival uh 183 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: and you know, gave him the knowledge that he would 184 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: need to prosper on his own. Burnham also became a 185 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,599 Speaker 1: really expert shooter during this time. He actually practiced to 186 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: shoot ambidextrously so that he would have equal skill in 187 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: both hands, and he really got to a point where 188 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: he had great precision. He also trained himself to handle 189 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: almost any hardship he might encounter on missions as a scout, 190 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: So he trained himself to go without food, sleep, and 191 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: water to endure great pain. And allegedly he trained himself 192 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 1: to slow his own heartbeat. And he developed this unique 193 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:33,719 Speaker 1: food source that he would use throughout his life. UH 194 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: that enabled him to travel fairly light and stealthily, and 195 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: also so he would not have to cook as he traveled, 196 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: because if you are trying to travel on the download, 197 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: you don't want to be starting a campfire. So to 198 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,479 Speaker 1: do this, he would pulverize dried venison into a powder, 199 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: and then he would mix that powder with flour and 200 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: bake this into little loaves that he could put in 201 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: his his little bag, and he could eat a little 202 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: bit of it each day and keep himself going. This 203 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: sort of made me think of it being the wild 204 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: West Scout version of Limbus. I always think that uh 205 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: limbus is a vegetarian food. But you know, that's just 206 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: me well, just in that it's like this thing that's 207 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: very sustaining and that you can carry for long periods 208 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: of time. It wasn't so much the content that made 209 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: me think of Limbus. So he tried his hand at 210 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: searching for gold in the American Southwest, but he only 211 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: met with success one time. He used the money that 212 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: he got from this one success to go back to Iowa, 213 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 1: where he returned to a young lady named Blanche Blick. 214 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 1: The two of them got married and moved to Pasadena 215 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: to start a citrus grove. They weren't very successful at 216 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: doing this, though, and his restlessness eventually led him to 217 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: speak adventure again. This time he headed for Africa with 218 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: his wife and their infant son, Roderick. The three of 219 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: them departed on New Year's Day, and eventually landed in 220 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: South Africa. So, while he was not a particularly big 221 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: and his reputation was enormous, and he first made a 222 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: name for himself as a freelance scout. So for a price, 223 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 1: he would, for example, creep into enemy territory in search 224 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: of information. He would patrol for interlopers, he would perform 225 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 1: discreet acts of sabotage, and he eventually got the nickname 226 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: King of Scouts for his skill and his stealth, and 227 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: he was described by the militaryman he sometimes served as 228 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: being half jack rabbit and half wolf. He was also 229 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: pretty disarming in social situations. He loved to tell stories 230 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: of his adventures in Africa and in the American Indian territories. 231 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: One tale of his skill at entertaining a gathering goes 232 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: that he was, you know, spending a tale at one 233 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: of his skirmishes that he had been in Africa, and 234 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: at one point in the middle of the story, he said, 235 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: we'll kill that snake when I finished this story, And 236 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: then he gestured casually to a rattlesnake that had been 237 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: heading towards the group and their outdoor gathering, but no 238 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,719 Speaker 1: one else had noticed it before that point. Yeah, just 239 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: cools a cucumber. I'm going to get to that snake. 240 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: Let me finish what I was saying, which then becomes 241 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: a wonderful, hilarious story in and of itself. It's probably 242 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: no surprise then that a man like Burnham, who was 243 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: full of swagger and this sort of old school machiessm 244 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: was friends with Theodore Roosevelt. I swear I did not 245 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: mean to make a Roosevelt series, because I knew we 246 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: just talked about Alice. But in fact, Burnham made friends 247 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: with a lot of people in high places, particularly if 248 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: they were men that were like him, that were drawn 249 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: to adventure. They He just kind of always connected with 250 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: those kinds of people. While he was traveling in Rhodesia, 251 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: he became friends with Englishman Robert baden Powell, and eventually 252 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: Baden Powell would found the Boy Scouts, inspired in part 253 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: by Burnham's adventurous spirit and fortitude. And we're gonna continue 254 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: to talk about Burnham's life in the time he spent 255 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: in Africa, as well as his activities once he returned 256 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: to the US. After we have a brief word from 257 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: one of our sponsors, So we talked about how Burnham 258 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: was eating these like dried venison cake things, and he 259 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: continued throughout his life to eat other odd stuff in 260 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: the interest of not letting his stomach get in the 261 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: way of what he needed to do. He would live 262 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: off of milk and ox blood or stolen uncooked corn 263 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: during his adventures in Africa, even if these were misery 264 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: to eat. Yeah, if you've ever eaten uncooked corn, like 265 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: fresh not even entirely ripe corn, that is not easy 266 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: to eat. There are also stories that he would sometimes 267 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: eat rotten produce that had been discarded that he would 268 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: kind of snatch so that he would stay on the 269 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: d l keep himself fed, but not not necessarily in 270 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: the most delightful or yummy of ways. Uh. And while 271 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: the Burnhams were actually in Africa, they had a second child, 272 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: the daughter named Nada, and the family was actually caught 273 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: in the conflict of the Second Matabili War when they 274 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: were living just outside the city of Bulawayo. And this conflict, 275 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: combined with a horrible livestock virus, actually resulted in a 276 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: huge tragedy for Frederick. So, while this colony that they 277 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: were in was constantly under siege, his two year old 278 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: daughter not a developed an intense fever and she eventually 279 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: died and uh when Burnham identified the leader of the 280 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: uprising that had been behind this attack on the colony, 281 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: he is said to have tracked him to a cave 282 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: where he shot him, and Burnham would later write that 283 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: he the whole time this conflict was happening with this man, 284 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: where he was killing this man, he had these visions 285 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: of his wife clutching their dying daughter, and that sort 286 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: of drove him to this murder. He left Africa the 287 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: following year, chasing rumors of gold once again, but then 288 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: he abandoned that enterprise when he was called back to 289 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: Africa to serve in the Second Boer War. After that 290 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: war was over, he spoke with a great deal of 291 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: respect about the Boars, and especially he was impressed with 292 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: their lead scout and another man reporting to the lead 293 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: scout he went by the name Black Panther of the Veld. 294 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: He would later say that the Black Panther, who he 295 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 1: had actually spent the war trying to kill, was the 296 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: craftiest man he had ever met, and in truth, that 297 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: Black Panther was Fritz Duquesne. As we said at the 298 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: top of the episode, they had actually been assigned to 299 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: kill each other so that they could eliminate these very 300 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: stealthy scouts the other side each had. Burnham had actually 301 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: been captured during this conflict, but he managed to avoid 302 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: being identified by showing how very smart and philosophical he was, 303 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: since he knew that the description the Boers had of 304 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: him described him as an Offish American, and so he 305 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: kind of led this brief double life. But he eventually 306 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: made an escape in the dark of night, and he 307 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: spent the next week's cutting the Boers supply lines and 308 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: blowing up their railways after dodging a great deal of 309 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: fire while he was hunkered down in the brush, Burnham 310 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: was eventually retrieved by British forces and he was sent 311 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: to England to be treated for his injuries. He actually 312 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: met Winston Churchill on the ship to London. Soon Blanche 313 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: and the couple's third child, Bruce, joined him. Another tragedy struck, though, 314 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 1: because young Bruce later drowned in the Thames. Their oldest son, Roderick, 315 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: at this point, was nineteen and was in school in California. 316 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: He had actually had a premonition about Bruce's death, which 317 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: he relayed to his grandmother before they got the news 318 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: of the child's passing. The Burnham's returned to Pasadena once uh, 319 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,479 Speaker 1: Frederick was recovered and they were still grieving. Uh So 320 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: they were morning and regrouping there. And it was during 321 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 1: this time that the scout began working on an article 322 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: that he would eventually publish in early nineteen ten. And 323 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: that article was called Transplanting African Animals. And this article, 324 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: once it came out, immediately got people talking, and because 325 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: of the meat shortage, all kinds of people wanted to 326 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: speak with Frederick Burnham. And that's where we're going to 327 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: cliffhan this one. In our next episode, we're going to 328 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: talk more about how Burnham and another wild character worked 329 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: with Robert Brussar to try to bring hippo's in the 330 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: United States as livestock, which still is a terrible idea, 331 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: but also terribly funny to think about. It's funny except 332 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: that hippos are actually really aggressive and territorial and they 333 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: will look just that murder. Only that gets left out 334 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: of a lot of the discussion. Thank you so much 335 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: for joining us today for this classic. If you have 336 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: heard any kind of email address or maybe a Facebook 337 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: you are l During the course of the episode that 338 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: might be obsolete. It might be doubly obsolete because we 339 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: have changed our email address again. 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