Speaker 1: The Conference Finals are here, and while the participants may
Speaker 1: not be what everyone anticipated, although I am glad for
Speaker 1: a few people that are there, we are in storble
Speaker 1: what will likely be two great matchups with the Knicks
Speaker 1: and Acers in the Eastern Conference and the thunder.
Speaker 2: Taking on the te Wolves out in the West. We'll
Speaker 2: get into the matchups and potential X factors to each
Speaker 2: series with Ihearts Travann Edwards on today's episode, I'm Miles
Speaker 2: Gray and I'm Jabari du Sana Jet and this is
Speaker 2: Miles A Jabari.
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Speaker 2: Numbers. That's got secure est host of Iheart's Ghosts Greatest
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Speaker 2: thank you for joining us on Miles Bad Boostie's.
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me hellas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, How are you feeling just so far we've
Speaker 2: the postseason? How have you been liking the action up
Speaker 2: to this point now that we're at the Conference Finals.
Speaker 3: I mean it's been good. I haven't got a chance.
Speaker 3: I mean I've been watching, but I was in the
Speaker 3: process of moving. Ironically, I moved from New York to Indianapolis.
Speaker 3: So wow, okay, kind of crazy. Yeah, I mean that
Speaker 3: they will be facing off, you know, tomorrow, but.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's a good series.
Speaker 3: I mean the energy is there in both cities and
Speaker 3: you know, Minnesota and okay, so he should be a
Speaker 3: good win as well, right, So I know, I'm just
Speaker 3: really excited to see. But all for these teams were
Speaker 3: off and they said, like the first time in twenty
Speaker 3: five years the conference final has been especially on the
Speaker 3: West Coast outside of California Tech, So so interesting.
Speaker 2: Stat who is I mean, did you have a team
Speaker 2: going into the postseason.
Speaker 3: I let the listeners pick before the season, and they
Speaker 3: chose to Orlando Magic sorrow with.
Speaker 4: Them this season.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm not sure we'll continue that, but yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. Okay, so you really did the Obie topping.
Speaker 2: You just said, I'm leaving New York and I'm going
Speaker 2: to Indianapolis. This is this is me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it wasn't my choice. That's my job.
Speaker 3: Is sure, for sure, it's one of the situations. But
Speaker 3: he's really calm, man like.
Speaker 2: He's yeah, it seems it seems like a good time
Speaker 2: see and all the all the Pacers fans I know
Speaker 2: are good people, so I'm not mad. Although look, as
Speaker 2: a Laker fan and Celtics hater, I've put all my
Speaker 2: emotional investment into the Knicks and that's been paying off.
Speaker 2: So thank you, thank you to the New York Knickerbockers.
Speaker 2: So yeah, this is gonna be the seventh straight new champion. Now,
Speaker 2: just with these four teams that are left. Man, what
Speaker 2: happened to the good old days? You know, when we're
Speaker 2: at the top of the pile all the time.
Speaker 3: Moves Man, It just also just stakes and shows how
Speaker 3: difficult it is to go.
Speaker 4: Back to back. Yeah, I mean they're a new CBA and.
Speaker 3: And all those things, like you really have to narrow
Speaker 3: in and make the right choices, man, when you you know,
Speaker 3: when you're trying to build a team, there's gonna be something.
Speaker 4: You know, a lot of people getting moved.
Speaker 3: This June, man, because of you know, a lot of
Speaker 3: teams gonna trying to stand in the luxury tax, trying
Speaker 3: to dump certain contracts. Like I don't see Boston being
Speaker 3: the same. I don't see Phoenix being the same. I
Speaker 3: don't see you know, Houston being the same. The list
Speaker 3: goes on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like excited though too, like especially because the
Speaker 2: Dynasty era was just like, Okay, great, Dunky's gonna get
Speaker 2: another ring, Okay, find the Lakers get it, like whatever.
Speaker 2: That Now I'm like, Okay, Shaye might get Shae might
Speaker 2: get their ring this year. And it could be Jalen Brunson,
Speaker 2: it could be Tyres. I like all now, I'm like
Speaker 2: just in a way, I'm like, I'm glad one of
Speaker 2: y'all is gonna get your ring this year. And I
Speaker 2: feel like this is a great moment, especially for this
Speaker 2: younger crop of players that are you know, going to
Speaker 2: take over new fan.
Speaker 3: Bases, winning create annoying fan bases, you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 3: I remember being around the Warriors. Marcus Williams was a
Speaker 3: point guard for the Warriors at one time, and they
Speaker 3: were really bad. They were giving away tickets at this point,
Speaker 3: but the work was still still popping. And you know
Speaker 3: this is after we believe years and then they draft
Speaker 3: his deph the following year and they still weren't great.
Speaker 4: And then when they won.
Speaker 3: The first one, then it just it just kept you know,
Speaker 3: it got very arrogant. Oh yeah, and then now they're
Speaker 3: they're one of their top five annoying fan bases, But
Speaker 3: I like it, man. I think that comes with the
Speaker 3: territories is earned for having down years. You have a
Speaker 3: ton of down years. So if the Knicks win it,
Speaker 3: I don't think that city's gonna exist.
Speaker 5: That's exactly where I was gonna go with it. Like
Speaker 5: we know, we know Knicks fans are Knicks fans. But
Speaker 5: of the four that are out there, which one goes
Speaker 5: craziest if they win this year?
Speaker 4: Nixt easy? Yeah, yeah, easy by far. Look what they're
Speaker 4: doing and just regular playoff series.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly after a win, not even like a winning
Speaker 2: a series, like, yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 3: A fifty year gap, so like they can accomplish that,
Speaker 3: which is kind of weird and funny, like it'll be
Speaker 3: a storybook.
Speaker 4: I'll leave New York and then they actually win. Not
Speaker 4: saying that I was the person to make them bad,
Speaker 4: but you know I have.
Speaker 3: I have been there when they actually acquired and made
Speaker 3: the playoffs, Like they got back to the playoffs while
Speaker 3: I was there, So I'll take credit for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah you should, you should. You should betting favorite
Speaker 2: right now? Who's the betting favorite going up? The four
Speaker 2: teams under Thunder?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it thunder or or minus one eighty knicks or
Speaker 5: plus four seventy five, then come to Wolves at plus
Speaker 5: six fifty, followed by the Pacers at plus seven hundred.
Speaker 2: Man well uh nixt Pacers kicks off Wednesday night at MSG.
Speaker 2: They were the two and one against the Pacers during
Speaker 2: the season. I mean, this is this is gonna be something.
Speaker 2: I mean, they they they they can score. This is
Speaker 2: going Deers, You're going to be high scoring affairs. Uh Trey,
Speaker 2: Where like where are you at when you look at
Speaker 2: sort of these teams and what we expect from like
Speaker 2: the Stars, who needs to step up adjustments, et cetera?
Speaker 2: What are you kind of how do you how are
Speaker 2: you using the viewing this matchup?
Speaker 4: I think it's a fair game, man.
Speaker 3: Always there's always expectations, but I'm always paying attention to
Speaker 3: the X factor, Right, who's going to step in and
Speaker 3: make shots? And similar to last year last year's finals, PJ.
Speaker 3: Washington couldn't make a shot, saved his life and you
Speaker 3: know the series before you could miss, So you know
Speaker 3: those things decide man to make her mis league and
Speaker 3: you have a good game or you have a bad.
Speaker 4: Game to decide.
Speaker 3: So I see the guys like Dante DiVincenzo and Nicholas
Speaker 3: Alexander Walker and you know, the Isaiah Joes of the
Speaker 3: world and the Jalen Williams and those guys stepping in
Speaker 3: and doing big you know what I mean, the Jayalen
Speaker 3: mcdames having them type of games to just go out
Speaker 3: and do the thing for og Ablanobia and you know,
Speaker 3: uh bridges, you know, like just different guys that are third,
Speaker 3: fourth option that aren't really heavily relied on the offensive
Speaker 3: scoring it to actually win them a game and possibly
Speaker 3: win a.
Speaker 5: Series whenever it comes to playoff ball, like you know,
Speaker 5: sometimes people agree, but I've been looked at sideways with this.
Speaker 5: But for the most part, you know, outside of a stinker,
Speaker 5: you know where you're gonna get from the from the starts.
Speaker 5: I do think that a series, like you know, beyond
Speaker 5: you know, just individual games, but I think a series
Speaker 5: changes based on that supporting cast. Of those two supporting
Speaker 5: casts in the Eastern Conference, which which you feel more comfortable.
Speaker 4: With, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, the popular pick obviously is the Knicks man
Speaker 3: they have a little bit more more likable.
Speaker 4: A lot of Bandwagon fans have popped up.
Speaker 3: I think the Paces deep yea, the deep dude, And
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people are just not really
Speaker 3: paying them no mind. They're a really good team and
Speaker 3: world coach, world disciplined, and you got Mattherin, you got
Speaker 3: you know, just certain guys that is coming in, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like that's come in.
Speaker 4: And just be affected.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: They're tough, they're scrappy. So I think it's gonna be
Speaker 4: a real physical series. I like the Pacers.
Speaker 5: Sorry, we got a seven gamer out of them last season.
Speaker 5: I'd be happy with another one.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah for real, for real. Uh but yeah,
Speaker 2: the Knicks fan man, just the I was just saying
Speaker 2: this about like with the La New York base like
Speaker 2: World series, how like it kind of felt like there
Speaker 2: was like a hip hop rivalry going on because we
Speaker 2: had Cube come out and then they have Fat Joe
Speaker 2: come out and do a real tired ass performance. But
Speaker 2: now you realize that the team that really embodies hip
Speaker 2: hop in New York is actually the Knicks, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? And like I've just that that clip
Speaker 2: of Raykwan and ghost Face rapping in Madison Square Ground.
Speaker 2: I was like, I was like levitated as it's like
Speaker 2: a hip hop fan who like loves that golden era
Speaker 2: of New York rap and just loving like what the
Speaker 2: Knicks represent for the NBA. I was like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: this is this is this is it right here.
Speaker 5: I expected you to come in with your New York
Speaker 5: jersey all to day.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately that was a casualty of the fire. I'm like,
Speaker 2: you're like, none of those jerseys exist anymore. Thanks for that, Jabbari,
Speaker 2: Mitchell and Nest. If you'd like to replenish my jersey stock,
Speaker 2: hit me up. Please feel free. As a jersey lover
Speaker 2: who lost everything, you know, I would appreciate it. All right, Well,
Speaker 2: let's take a break, we'll come back. Let's head out
Speaker 2: west to talk Wolves in Oklahoma City. Right, and we're
Speaker 2: back Western Conference kicking off actually as we record by
Speaker 2: moments from now in Oklahoma City. Man, this is what
Speaker 2: I think again, I have a Western Conference bias as
Speaker 2: a fan who lives on the West Coast and mostly
Speaker 2: is watching Western Conference basketball. This one is very, very
Speaker 2: exciting to me, especially just given how these the momentum
Speaker 2: both teams are bringing into this series. During the regular season,
Speaker 2: they split the four games they played against each other,
Speaker 2: So this is this feels very, very very close. And
Speaker 2: I mean, look again, they're both on the precipice of
Speaker 2: some somewhat history. I mean, the Thunder they haven't been
Speaker 2: to the finals in thirteen years. Minnesota has never been
Speaker 2: to the finals, So there's definitely added benefit. I just
Speaker 2: saw an old interview with Shay Gil just Alexander, Like
Speaker 2: this was like maybe three years ago when he just
Speaker 2: signed that five year extension and they were like won
Speaker 2: twenty four games that season. He's like, nah, I really
Speaker 2: believe we're about to win, Like I'm not tripping about
Speaker 2: this extension, Like this is you're gonna see, You're gonna see,
Speaker 2: and you're like, wow, Okay, he knew, he knew, and
Speaker 2: he's delivering. Now.
Speaker 5: It doesn't hurt when Presty hits on just about all
Speaker 5: those picks like here, they weren't necessarily the high pitch.
Speaker 4: But oh no, I'm not into that man. Until they
Speaker 4: finished the job, I'm not I'm not into it.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: That's like, that's like bragging about DS sneakers that you
Speaker 4: have before want to crumble. I don't care about seventh
Speaker 4: grader in twenty forty.
Speaker 5: Like, no, no, what, But I'm not saying stacking them up.
Speaker 5: But I'm saying, like, in terms of teams, do they
Speaker 5: draft because because what look because while as a Lakers fan,
Speaker 5: as an unabashed Lakers fan, I would love to have
Speaker 5: had some of that death. I would love to have
Speaker 5: had some of.
Speaker 4: Those Would you trade the twenty twenty ring game for that?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 5: No, I would not.
Speaker 4: Here, man, parents, I'm about right now.
Speaker 2: Don't worry about the future.
Speaker 4: They don't win the title, it doesn't matter, don't even.
Speaker 2: Matter we're doing that. Nico Harrison is like, I'm not
Speaker 2: thinking about now. I'm thinking about four to eight years
Speaker 2: from now where we will not be winning now.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: Now this also, I didn't realize Nikhil alexand under Walker
Speaker 2: and Shae Gill just Alexander Cousins yea, I okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: that just hit me because I just saw that storyline.
Speaker 2: But y'all yeah, I mean it's just it's interesting, man.
Speaker 4: We don't need to drag out I look at it
Speaker 4: in this situation.
Speaker 3: I'm like, is this is ain't gonna shoot Will and
Speaker 3: Shake gonna shoot Will right? Are they gonna Are they
Speaker 3: gonna put on a show for us? Or is it
Speaker 3: gonna be some trash talk? Is it gonna be some physicality?
Speaker 4: Is the game? It's gonna be close. Come on, that's it.
Speaker 4: I already have it. Who has the best franchise fans?
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Like, come on, man, I
Speaker 4: really want to see both teams play hard. So distilling it.
Speaker 2: So distilling it down to its essence the sauce. What
Speaker 2: now you're looking at these two teams. You just saw
Speaker 2: okay See come off a full seven games against the Nuggets.
Speaker 2: Obviously everyone's like, man, I mean the defense, but minnesot
Speaker 2: how are they gonna contend with okay Ce's defense? And
Speaker 2: then like, hows Shaye gonna this is probably one of
Speaker 2: the more intense defense and shades faced where do you?
Speaker 2: How do you see? What's your? How you seen it
Speaker 2: all shape?
Speaker 4: But I mean, I ain't gonna make no predictions. I
Speaker 4: think it's just all about shots made.
Speaker 2: Man make a prediction, though, make a prediction, TRP.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think okay See he's really good. But
Speaker 4: I would like to see the Minnesota.
Speaker 3: Timb Wolves for ant because I just know what and
Speaker 3: it's more just someone a selling point for me, just entertaining.
Speaker 3: I think Shae is very good and I think he's
Speaker 3: he's a he's my favorite basketball player right now. But
Speaker 3: from an entertainment standpoint, I want to see what would
Speaker 3: do in the finals. Like I feel like Shaye's a
Speaker 3: better team captain, a very team guy to get everybody involved,
Speaker 3: and they're gonna win as a team. And Edwards it
Speaker 3: was ant time. It's a crazy third, it's a crazy four.
Speaker 3: The back against the wall. Did he actually show up
Speaker 3: or did he just shrink in this moment? Like I
Speaker 3: want to be able to critique him at the biggest
Speaker 3: stage and not like a drift like last year was like,
Speaker 3: well that was his year to win it.
Speaker 4: All right, but he fell short.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're not talking about you no more than bro,
Speaker 3: Like we only talking about the people who make it
Speaker 3: to the.
Speaker 4: Get to play in June, right right right, because now
Speaker 4: he excuse to say, oh he needs oh, he needs
Speaker 4: this and that.
Speaker 3: Like he shot terrible for a while and Julius Randall
Speaker 3: was saving him, right, so you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: he can't have him games.
Speaker 4: But also okay, so he's gonna be ready and they're
Speaker 4: gonna defend like crazy, They're gonna shoot the ball like crazy,
Speaker 4: They're gonna be all over I'm still waiting on chick
Speaker 4: homegroom to play, like have a great game. Yeah, God,
Speaker 4: he ain't had it yet, so.
Speaker 2: He's been a pedestrians.
Speaker 4: It's just a lot for sure.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, that's thinking about this just matchup to
Speaker 2: just looking at the like Anthony Caruso of it all.
Speaker 2: I'm really trying to Alex Chris I was were talking
Speaker 2: about too many ants, just the Alex Caruso of it all.
Speaker 2: Watching those adjustments like in game seven when I'm like, dude,
Speaker 2: this guy, why is he boying yo kids up? Like this?
Speaker 2: He is coming at him with just the tenacity.
Speaker 3: He was hacking down there. He was, Oh yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean there's a thing, right, there's a thing that fans.
Speaker 4: Love to do, this, this thing of like oh, you know,
Speaker 4: like he could defend anybody like you know, like not defended.
Speaker 4: He definitely there's an advantage that you can has a
Speaker 4: smaller defender below, get to grab, you get to slap
Speaker 4: at the guy, You get to do those things that normally,
Speaker 4: if it's easily matched up and.
Speaker 3: There's a bigger guy and beery guy, you're not gonna
Speaker 3: be able to do you following out, and in that
Speaker 3: particular situation, you.
Speaker 4: Got to beat that guy up. Y'all low, but he
Speaker 4: did do a good job.
Speaker 2: It was wild just to see how they were started
Speaker 2: reading each other though, too, Like how Yoka could be like,
Speaker 2: you think I'm about to just just hit somebody, like
Speaker 2: driving into the paint, and then you'd see Caruso adjusting.
Speaker 2: He's like, no, all right, caught you there. I'm going
Speaker 2: the other way now. I just the chess match of
Speaker 2: it was really fun to watch because at that point
Speaker 2: I'm like, we're like the basketball IQs like that are
Speaker 2: on display in those moments were really as a neutral,
Speaker 2: I was like, this is really fun to watch, and
Speaker 2: also just my affinity for ac obviously, I'm just you know,
Speaker 2: I like to see him do well.
Speaker 5: To that point. What do you think about the physicality
Speaker 5: that they permitted this postseason. I mean, it feels like
Speaker 5: in the second half of the regular season they started
Speaker 5: letting him more and then ramped it up. Do you
Speaker 5: feel like it's been a bit of an equalizer.
Speaker 4: Kind of kind of? I mean, I think it's games man.
Speaker 4: It is kind of like Enforcenate man.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it kind of resulted in the
Speaker 3: injury of Aaron Gordon and whatnot. But this is you
Speaker 3: know how it's been thirsty. Man, I think it get
Speaker 3: dragged us out. They're trying to fill all these games all.
Speaker 4: In and once.
Speaker 3: Most people can't keep up. We got so much other
Speaker 3: stuff going on outside our lives. But I don't know,
Speaker 3: It's been the best Playoffs series I've seen in a while,
Speaker 3: probably since my childhood. So I'm excited about all of it.
Speaker 3: And then also being of age and being socially active
Speaker 3: online knowing people that are possibly rooting for these you know,
Speaker 3: these teams, it just makes it even more great to watch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, especially in the pre social media days, it's
Speaker 2: like I don't even I don't know one fan of
Speaker 2: this team because of where I live. Whose bench are
Speaker 2: you more excited for?
Speaker 4: Indy?
Speaker 3: Indy got a good bench. Indy got a good bench
Speaker 3: in Minnesota, got a good bench. I think that are
Speaker 3: like getting that shit to go like how you want
Speaker 3: it to go, you know what I mean, like fun
Speaker 3: that can really contribute and have guys break out like
Speaker 3: that's that's.
Speaker 4: The ones, you know what I mean. But right, we'll see,
Speaker 4: we'll see.
Speaker 2: M h.
Speaker 3: Everything sounds good on paper right until they have to
Speaker 3: match up. That's what threw the regular season matchups out?
Speaker 3: Zero zero checkball?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 5: All right, I know, I know you said you didn't
Speaker 5: want to make any predictions, but I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 5: ask you either way when it's all said and done,
Speaker 5: after these conference finals, who what's our finals matchup?
Speaker 4: Don't hate me Minnesota Indiana?
Speaker 5: Oh hey, I would not hate that at all. I know,
Speaker 5: I know the like the general conversation about oh, like
Speaker 5: or are people gonna watch? Look good?
Speaker 2: Best you're gonna watch.
Speaker 5: So if those guys are out there hooping, people will watch.
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like Knicks fans will come off
Speaker 2: this suddenly like no one in New York is watching,
Speaker 2: but yeah, there's I mean, it's it's also just wild
Speaker 2: to see how even like all the players that move
Speaker 2: between like New York Minnesota, like they're all still in
Speaker 2: contention too. I'm like, then worked off for everybody in
Speaker 2: this postseason. But anyway, I think right now, I'm thinking
Speaker 2: I feel like, Okac may just squeak out of there,
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking, okay, Ce Nicks. That's for my fan heart,
Speaker 2: nothing to do with anything rational, just that's what just
Speaker 2: that's what I'm feeling. But However, as somebody who Anthony
Speaker 2: Edwards is my favorite player that does not play on
Speaker 2: the Lakers, and even though he did a victory lap
Speaker 2: around Crypto like he owned the plays, I wasn't mad
Speaker 2: at that. I said, you know what, young man, you
Speaker 2: do that that's part of your myth building and I
Speaker 2: think him part of me though too. I would love
Speaker 2: a championship for Anthony Edwards to really see like, Okay,
Speaker 2: now you've got the ring, let's really come into this
Speaker 2: role that a lot of us see you potentially feeling.
Speaker 2: And I feel like, yeah, just he just needs that,
Speaker 2: just that statistical thing to happen for him to really
Speaker 2: unlock it all. But I feel like it's gonna be
Speaker 2: a wild series either way, Jabi, what about you?
Speaker 5: And this is the one where I'm sorry. My head
Speaker 5: tells me it's going to be Indiana and okay, see
Speaker 5: which again, I would watch it and be fine with it.
Speaker 5: My heart, my heart wants, my heart, my heart on,
Speaker 5: iHeart wants, MFG, give me that, give me a seven
Speaker 5: game series of the Knicks and the Timberwolves, and I'm
Speaker 5: here for.
Speaker 2: A victory lap. You would not be taking Edwards, I
Speaker 2: don't think so. I don't think just because I think
Speaker 2: you're smart.
Speaker 4: Yeah, his biggest storyline would be the trade.
Speaker 5: Yeah mm hmmmm hm.
Speaker 3: Can't turning back to the exactly teams better? Yeah, I
Speaker 3: never knew what.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you just you just that's the able.
Speaker 3: It's a lot of Nicks in this uh in this
Speaker 3: conference finals if you wanted to be cheesy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, man, yeah, yeah, they're they're all there, They're
Speaker 2: all there, The gang's all here.
Speaker 4: Oh, the Knicks had something, uh.
Speaker 2: The greatest of their era. Yes, sir, go put us on,
Speaker 2: you know, like tell us about the show a little bit, uh,
Speaker 2: and and and kind of like how what's it been
Speaker 2: like just covering this with seth and and and doing
Speaker 2: a show about you know, just these specific eras in
Speaker 2: the players.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I mean we just got tired of preparing
Speaker 3: eras such a lazy narrative of like, oh, Yannie could
Speaker 3: score two and fifty in the seventies, Like sure, right,
Speaker 3: doing man, Like, there's it's not realistic combos. You being
Speaker 3: disrespectful to the greats. The people opened the doors before you.
Speaker 2: They're like you say, Bolt would have been fashioned than
Speaker 2: Jesse Owens, And you're like okay, sure, like and what's
Speaker 2: your point?
Speaker 4: Completely different just in just different scenarios.
Speaker 3: We just felt like it was good to educate our
Speaker 3: listeners and also just you know, turn the clock back
Speaker 3: and and sit in a moment of the era that
Speaker 3: we specifically speak on, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 3: we have an upcoming episode coming out Great A's of
Speaker 3: their era ninety shooting Guards excluding.
Speaker 4: Michael Jordan, So it makes it a little different. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Obviously that's the answer.
Speaker 3: We know, but we're featuring Deal Curry and Del Curry
Speaker 3: gets a telling from his perspective, So yeah, just being
Speaker 3: able to reflect on those types of things and and
Speaker 3: and speak on criteria. And one thing that people won't
Speaker 3: or won't catch on the first listen is that I
Speaker 3: stop at the line every time I didn't play.
Speaker 4: In the NBA. I played collegiate and I played a little
Speaker 4: overseas in high school.
Speaker 3: So when we start talking about NBA stuff, that's where
Speaker 3: I get off the get off the car and I
Speaker 3: let the pros talk. So I guess you know, we
Speaker 3: had Grant Williams on previously on the episode, and it
Speaker 3: got to a.
Speaker 4: Point where you know we had him on. He won
Speaker 4: me over. He won me over.
Speaker 3: He's such a smart defenders, great guy and understood, like
Speaker 3: he broke down why he defends guy certain ways, you know,
Speaker 3: how a game is won for a defender. And it
Speaker 3: just was a great breakdown in the criteria of what
Speaker 3: it takes to be a defensive player. And we had
Speaker 3: some controversial takes about like Rudy Gobert not being one
Speaker 3: of the greatest, you know what I mean, because it
Speaker 3: can't defend on the perimeter does change the outcome of
Speaker 3: the paint. But it worked in his favor in certain eras,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. He was born in the
Speaker 3: right era for him to succeed in those defensive things.
Speaker 3: And now we're watching it currently in these these these
Speaker 3: current series and you're not doing so great right from
Speaker 3: the success he's received when he was in Utah and
Speaker 3: things of that nature. So yeah, man, it's just it's
Speaker 3: it's really fun and Seth you know, he's great. He
Speaker 3: feels back the layers of the you sharing different stories
Speaker 3: of what may happen, and it's really cool man, you know,
Speaker 3: like just being able to reflect and talk about certain things,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. My controversial take was if
Speaker 3: Iverson came out I'll visit or how how.
Speaker 4: Much would he be loved? I don't know if he's
Speaker 4: that love, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Although he won MVP, you know, like the shooting percentage
Speaker 3: was terrible, you know what I mean? And he you know, like,
Speaker 3: would he be guys praised for being a high volume shooter.
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, by today's fans. I don't think they.
Speaker 4: I don't think. I don't think so, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 2: As many tattoos everybody has too.
Speaker 3: I think it's popularity overshadows this game more than anything,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean When you talk about the
Speaker 3: best shooting guards and he kind of slowly trickles down
Speaker 3: the ladder because there's a lot of guys that had
Speaker 3: like consistency.
Speaker 2: But was that something you was that something you felt
Speaker 2: about Ai when he was in the league, or that's
Speaker 2: something that kind of came to No.
Speaker 3: I think it's like watching Celtic Pride in twenty twenty
Speaker 3: five and trying to be like, yo, this is a
Speaker 3: bad movie, you know what I mean, Or watching something
Speaker 3: that just the graphics weren't there's some there it's unfair
Speaker 3: to like, really, yeah, to judge it from what it
Speaker 3: was in real time because we didn't care about that.
Speaker 3: Michael Jordan shot seventeen percent from the three, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean in that finals where the flu game, right,
Speaker 3: and it was like, but he had thirty eight and
Speaker 3: eighty two percent from the field. So it's like, what
Speaker 3: is our priorities and what we care about? Do we
Speaker 3: do in a game or not?
Speaker 4: Are we caring about like and now we'd be like
Speaker 4: they won a game, but he was six for twenty five.
Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, we focus so much on field goals,
Speaker 3: so right, and we can abandon that analytics won the
Speaker 3: long game exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, who's like a player? Like I'm guessing like your
Speaker 2: golden era maybe the late nineties, nineties era to like
Speaker 2: early two thousands. Yeah, what's Yeah, there was there like
Speaker 2: who's like a player that you were kind of like
Speaker 2: you realize You're like, man, I totally slept on this, dude.
Speaker 2: How did I you know, like just in doing the
Speaker 2: show or who's someone that surprised you that you kind
Speaker 2: of realized You're like, you know what I did?
Speaker 3: Not? I mean over research and I think over time
Speaker 3: I really been give up a lot for Touro Brandon.
Speaker 3: We talked a lot about Kitty Anderson. We hadn upcoming
Speaker 3: episode with Creig Hodges and Muhammad Abduro.
Speaker 4: But I mean they they've they've got they've they've got
Speaker 4: their their flowers lately, Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean it's certain guys that we just mentioned,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like you don't know how
Speaker 3: good of how strong Joe du Mars was, you know
Speaker 3: what i mean, Like from a personal standpoint, it's different,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, from like just watching it,
Speaker 3: you can't.
Speaker 4: Those are the things that only players can tell you, right, Yeah, you.
Speaker 3: Know you close your eyes and you're like, Okay, now
Speaker 3: I'm in the game, and now I'm trying to get
Speaker 3: past Joe du Mars.
Speaker 4: And he's he's top, he's top.
Speaker 3: Throng hi about I'm from, you know, like strong legs
Speaker 3: where you can't move him. He's guarding the six seven
Speaker 3: micros I mean six six Michael Jordans et Cetera or
Speaker 3: Clyde Director and all these other guys. And I can
Speaker 3: guard a six point point guard, you know, because he's
Speaker 3: strong and he moving the guys. So you know, those
Speaker 3: are the things that you know, you think about the
Speaker 3: scores and how good they were. Man, it's just just
Speaker 3: a different thing. And you know, Steph was our first guess.
Speaker 3: He broke down the shooters about like being.
Speaker 2: And that's that's Steph Cray. Yeah, okay, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: Top lock, top locked, guarden, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Your Scotland report, how how are they gardener?
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Breaking down the eyes of a shooter and who they respect.
Speaker 3: That's that meets the criteria, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Kyle Korver was one of the guys that they highly respected,
Speaker 4: which wouldn't be.
Speaker 3: Like, oh man, Kyle Corver, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: Like that's the film that they will watch, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean? And Seth breaking down how much of
Speaker 3: Jason Terry he watched, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: There's certain certain players that.
Speaker 3: You just you just don't ever look at in that
Speaker 3: aspect because maybe they're later in their careers, they're a
Speaker 3: little banged up, but they mean something to somebody else
Speaker 3: and they play a huge role in their development of
Speaker 3: the next year.
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna lie to you. Having watched and appreciated,
Speaker 5: you know, like mood. Part of me feels like a
Speaker 5: guy like Steph had to if we've been watching him
Speaker 5: when he was growing up, had that he had to have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they were more into their guys were
Speaker 3: Reggie Miller and Steve Nash Okay, you know, they were
Speaker 3: huge into the fifty forty ninety club. And then their
Speaker 3: dad's kind of like, you know, like I.
Speaker 4: Said, they got into it. He explained a little bit
Speaker 4: in the episodes.
Speaker 3: That's how about how Kevin Johnson broke his dads knows,
Speaker 3: but then also how his aunties didn't.
Speaker 4: Like Reggie Miller, you know what I mean, because like
Speaker 4: they would get into it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So it's always interesting and Dale talks about life before,
Speaker 3: you know, getting ready. He didn't know that he would
Speaker 3: go to the NBA and that he played one game
Speaker 3: with three point line in college. You do know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, somebody, when you really think about those type
Speaker 3: of things of like, oh, my point per game went
Speaker 3: up because I achieved the three.
Speaker 4: I already shot deep long jews, so the idea now
Speaker 4: I'm getting three points for.
Speaker 3: These Oh I got a chance. And then seeing guys
Speaker 3: that he played against they did pretty farewell with against
Speaker 3: go to the NBA, he was like, oh, I got
Speaker 3: my shot and it wasn't a lot.
Speaker 4: Of three point shooters. Three point shooters were.
Speaker 3: Basically like kickers, you know what I mean, Like he said,
Speaker 3: coming on, eventually be able to shoot three threes, that's.
Speaker 4: It five on a good day. So think about him
Speaker 4: being allowed to shoot ten right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 4: What I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the beauty of these conversations on vote. You
Speaker 3: know what I mean, he do turculu being born in
Speaker 3: the rong era coming out of twenty twenty.
Speaker 4: Five, You know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Like what do in today's league?
Speaker 3: You know, you get to talk about the roy you know,
Speaker 3: the Rodney Rogers and Danny Mannings and you know the
Speaker 3: Ron Harper's getting Ron Harper's flowers, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: How good of a shooting guard he was before he
Speaker 3: switched to being point guard and being a.
Speaker 4: Lockdown defender with Chicago. So in LA. But that's the
Speaker 4: beauty of Goat.
Speaker 3: There's so many different topics, there's so many different competitions,
Speaker 3: and and then there's a part one to part two,
Speaker 3: part three depending on the guests who gets to defend
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. We may have a James
Speaker 3: Worthy coming on soon, so get a chance to talk
Speaker 3: about the eighties.
Speaker 4: And then you know, just different things like that. So man,
Speaker 4: it's been a fun ride.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: I think we're almost at twenty episodes.
Speaker 2: So amazing, we're moving well. Congrats on the show. Go
Speaker 2: to the greatest of their era, Go to gote. Okay,
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Speaker 2: you don't sleep on that one. We're gonna take a break.
Speaker 2: We'll come right back, and it's not for the fourth
Speaker 2: quarter rapid fire round of question right after this and
Speaker 2: we're back. Trey Edwards has been great having you, but
Speaker 2: now is the time for the fourth quarter rapid fire
Speaker 2: a round of question. We're just gonna ask you a question.
Speaker 2: You react, you respond, don't think too much, just give
Speaker 2: your internal your instinct on it, which so far you've
Speaker 2: been pretty good at. But got to keep just quick, quick, quick, quick, quick,
Speaker 2: and if you go slow, we'll be rude to you, okay,
Speaker 2: because we have to ma taint our title fastest qu
Speaker 2: I'm good, Yeah you were, and you were pretty good,
Speaker 2: you know, but we'll see this time, we'll see this
Speaker 2: go a head. Okay, all right, so I'm guessing you're
Speaker 2: ready yep, Brian, start the clock, all right, Uh, you
Speaker 2: want to go first, you want me to go first?
Speaker 5: You got it, all right?
Speaker 2: I got first question Tray someone that knows about ranking,
Speaker 2: and you know, goats, where does Jalen Brunson ascend too?
Speaker 2: And the greatest Knicks ever conversation if the Knicks wind
Speaker 2: up winning.
Speaker 4: The whole thing? Two? No, three, okay, it's the top
Speaker 4: three then.
Speaker 3: And Clive firstman my Fraser one?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, but right.
Speaker 4: Now three, that's real?
Speaker 5: Where's where's mellow in that conversation?
Speaker 4: I know it was just bottom ten? Okay, because it's
Speaker 4: like King.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, what about l U huh Eli Jay, Larry
Speaker 2: Johnson he's hurt? Yeah, the latter day.
Speaker 4: You know he memorable play. Yeah, he did things worse
Speaker 4: Charlotte than anything.
Speaker 2: That's true. And I think this is just like the
Speaker 2: most memorable thing we were all doing on the court
Speaker 2: is kids?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 2: All right? Well that that sounds like a right answer.
Speaker 5: But obviously we still have a great deal of respect
Speaker 5: for what Lebron Stephen kd continue to do with their age.
Speaker 5: But it's clear that you know, we've had an official
Speaker 5: change into the guard. Who are the faces of the
Speaker 5: league moving forward?
Speaker 4: I don't think there is no facebo league trick question.
Speaker 3: I just think that is however you want it to be,
Speaker 3: whoever you're leaning towards. I mean, I think this league
Speaker 3: is super talented and whoever wants to put the marketing
Speaker 3: dollars into it. But I think right now, it's just
Speaker 3: if Jason Russell wins, the Champions should be be the
Speaker 3: face league on some.
Speaker 4: Weird stuff which shouldn't be. But you lean towards the winners,
Speaker 4: right right, right?
Speaker 2: And if it and if the Wolves win? You said,
Speaker 2: what if the Wolves win? Is becaming? I mean, although
Speaker 2: he also says he's like, man, I'm not trying to
Speaker 2: be the fix.
Speaker 3: I mean, because it just comes with the you know, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think it's more of the easier answer. Right, everybody
Speaker 3: wants money but don't want the thing that comes with it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: obviously it's a machine. Monte Ellis came out and bought
Speaker 3: and said, Hey, I just want to hoop. I don't
Speaker 3: want to do the other things. So if I became
Speaker 3: an All Star, I got to go at this, that
Speaker 3: and the third. Yeah, you want to be All Star,
Speaker 3: but you don't want to do the extra media. You
Speaker 3: don't want to have a sneaker deal, you don't want
Speaker 3: to do all this other stuff, just obligations that take
Speaker 3: you away from things that happens.
Speaker 2: Okay, that was enough money, So that's true. The answer
Speaker 2: to ninety nine out of one hundred questions is money. Uh, Trey,
Speaker 2: last question and hopefully your fastest answers. I'm going to say,
Speaker 2: a player, you give me your prediction on where the
Speaker 2: following player will be next season. Okay, from the top,
Speaker 2: to be honest.
Speaker 4: Top five, he'll be in a Milwaukee Zion. Top fifteen,
Speaker 4: he'll be Adore with John Rant.
Speaker 3: Top twenty, he'll be in Memphis Kevin Grant.
Speaker 4: Top ten, He'll be in Phoenix until February.
Speaker 2: Oh, intriguing. And what about Braun?
Speaker 3: Top ten, He'll be in La m No movement, no movement,
Speaker 3: not not now.
Speaker 5: Not now?
Speaker 2: Huh Okay, okay, I'm honestly.
Speaker 3: Doing a great play in the game and flirting here
Speaker 3: options right, He'll stay. He's just trying to put pressure
Speaker 3: on the front office. I don't they don't have much
Speaker 3: to really navigate.
Speaker 2: But well, and also they I mean, if you're in Milwaukee,
Speaker 2: you can do everything you can to keep no.
Speaker 5: Matter what it is, under contract for another couple of
Speaker 5: years too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well, those are all the right answers, Trey,
Speaker 2: And unfortunately I wasn't able to be rude.
Speaker 4: To you because you're pretty good at this.
Speaker 2: Admittedly, yeah, I know, it turns out. It turns out.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us on Miles and
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