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Speaker 1: be a balanced team to beat them. It can't just

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Speaker 1: be let's load up on offense and go in there

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Speaker 1: and try to outscore them, right. But I don't think

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Speaker 1: you're gonna win many twenty seventeen games against them either. No, no,

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Speaker 1: you're not. You're not going to do that. You have

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Speaker 1: to be able to score. But again, their defense, their

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Speaker 1: defense isn't great, right right, and it probably never will be.

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Speaker 1: That's the weak the weakness. Yeah, so if you're you know,

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Speaker 1: if your defense can get some stops and your offense

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Speaker 1: is good enough to control the football and score, then

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Speaker 1: you have a chance. And Mahomes isn't going anywhere. But

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Speaker 1: Kelsey's not long for this league, either, right, I mean there,

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Speaker 1: you gotta give them something. Yeah. I think their philosophy

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Speaker 1: is if when they lost a Tampa with all those

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Speaker 1: old line injuries, he's got crushed in the super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I think they made a very concerted effort that if

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Speaker 1: we protect Pat and give him one weapon, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: be really, really hard to beat. Yeah, and they've invested

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Speaker 1: in the A line and they continue to do this year,

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Speaker 1: and they have that one weapon. But what if they

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Speaker 1: lost it? Right? Yeah, you just don't know. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: take a break. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lala.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: like to remind everybody on the Steelers YouTube channel, today's

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Speaker 1: show will be a broadcast there later on today. We

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Speaker 1: want to thank everybody who watched that one yesterday and

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Speaker 1: still watching it. I think some people are. But check

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Speaker 1: it out. Yeah, check that show out on there and

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Speaker 1: give us a like, do all some comments the stuff.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate all that stuff. But we'll be back with

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Speaker 1: more right after this. Welcome back. I'm Dale Lally. He

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Speaker 1: is Matt Williamson, and we are the drive here on

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Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. And Matt, we really haven't talked a

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Speaker 1: lot of draft here. No, we haven't since we since

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Speaker 1: we got out here. We did three hours yesterday and

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Speaker 1: really talking. We talked to any draft or even brought

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Speaker 1: up a prospect. But as we sit here, our friend

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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, I haven't seen this one draft his mock

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Speaker 1: draft at three point zero on NFL dot Com. So

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Speaker 1: I thought we'd roll through that one here real quick

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Speaker 1: before we are joined by some of our guests here.

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Speaker 1: When we do, I want to bring up pick two here.

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Speaker 1: I just heard somebody throw a spin that I'm a

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Speaker 1: little interested in. Okay, all right. At one, he has

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Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers taking c J. Stroud, Okay, so I

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Speaker 1: think that's gonna happen. And now Bryce Young has the

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Speaker 1: same agent as Deshaun Watson. Okay, and that didn't go

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Speaker 1: well with the Texans back when or whatever? Would you

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Speaker 1: consider being a Lamar team if you were them? Or

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Speaker 1: and taking a step further. Their new head coach is

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Speaker 1: Tomko Ryan's yeah, defensive coordinator, and nobody stresses the I'm

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Speaker 1: in like the Niners, you know, like if you take

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Speaker 1: Carter or Anderson at two, maybe roll the dice on

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Speaker 1: a quarterback at the ten pick. I think they pick

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Speaker 1: or eleven wherever it is, or talk Ravens with not

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Speaker 1: the second pick? Is that a better move? Damika Ryan's

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Speaker 1: also Obama guy, by the way, also Obama guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you know I think, yeah, I mean all about you? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that. I mean, you know agents better

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Speaker 1: than I do. Like do some agents and teams just

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Speaker 1: oil and water? I think that, I think, I think

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Speaker 1: millions of dollars. I mean, I think it comes down

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Speaker 1: to each particular player. I don't think an agent would

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Speaker 1: be silly to burn a bridge with the team. And

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Speaker 1: the other thing is Houston's changed dramatically since Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean the GMS and everything, the coaches gone. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: you don't I don't know that you necessarily looking down

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Speaker 1: and go y'all of this. We can't deal with that guy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, people forget this about the Watson saga is

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Speaker 1: he asked out way before any of the massage stuff

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Speaker 1: came out or any of those things. You know, he

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Speaker 1: was unhappy with the way the organization run and now

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Speaker 1: it's running differently, differently. Yeah, So Bucky has Houston taking

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Speaker 1: Bryce Young Arizona at three, then takes Will Anderson. I

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Speaker 1: would I mean, there, I did a team needs project.

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Speaker 1: Their D line is remarkably bad. Yeah, it was bad

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Speaker 1: last year and Watt retired and Alan left. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's remarkably bad. How about this, though, Matt At four,

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Speaker 1: he has Indianapolis taking Tyree Wilson. I don't think that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's obviously another shoe to drop there in

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Speaker 1: that situation too. Yeah, he said, adding a quarterback is

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Speaker 1: a top priority given the free agent signing Gardner Minshe

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Speaker 1: who currently sits first on the Indianapolis depth chart, but

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Speaker 1: grades on the available QB one prospects to not match

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Speaker 1: the Cold Straft position. Wilson would give the team a young,

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Speaker 1: energetic pass rusher to pair with quity paid on the edges.

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Speaker 1: He's not saying that he's saying. He's saying, hey, they're

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Speaker 1: they're in play to go get Lamar. Yeah. Yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: the most obvious one. They got a big chat chunk

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Speaker 1: of cap Ka change and they have the need. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Seattle then takes Jalen Carter. I can't see them passing

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Speaker 1: on him. Yeah, especially if Pete Carroll's age too, Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't win now. Yeah. Uh. Six, Detroit takes Devin Weatherspoon.

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Speaker 1: Do the Lions need another cornerback? I don't think so,

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Speaker 1: but I'm sure they didn't expect Wilson not to be there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean who would you take instead? I like Gonzales

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Speaker 1: better than Weatherspoon, but I mean it's yeah, you know.

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Speaker 1: At seven, the Raiders take Christian Gonzalez. Sure he could

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Speaker 1: go anywhere in those time seven or eight. At eight,

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Speaker 1: the Falcons take Lucas fans really maxed feelings about Lucas fanness,

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Speaker 1: but I see the appeal. At nine, the Bears take

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Speaker 1: Peter Scronsky. Makes perfect sense. At ten, the Eagles take

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Speaker 1: Nolan Smith. He seems to be really gaining steam. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's like, I mean four three nine four three four

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Speaker 1: three nine, Yeah, and he's productive, in versatile, and leader

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Speaker 1: and all this good stuff and the yeah it tapes

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Speaker 1: good and yeah everything's. At eleven, the Titans take Paris

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Speaker 1: Johnson Junior. Sure, I think would they pass on Richardson

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Speaker 1: or Levis though rarely do you see the opportunity to

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Speaker 1: take the quarterback at I think Levis falls. I think

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Speaker 1: Levice falls too. Yeah. At twelve, Houston takes Jackson Smith

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Speaker 1: and Jigba. They've added a lot in the receiver room.

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Speaker 1: But you know, my love for him. I mean, I've

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Speaker 1: many of these teams should take you got a huge

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Speaker 1: man crush, yes, yes, speaking of huge men, did Jets

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Speaker 1: take Osyrius Torrence? They have guards, Zoe, Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 1: know that that's a yeah, let's starting to plug a

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Speaker 1: be in at right tackle and see how that goes.

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Speaker 1: But it me he's a good player. Could yeah yeah. Um.

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Speaker 1: At fourteen, New England takes Roderick Jones. Sure, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm I think Jones is gonna go about the latest.

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Speaker 1: At green Bay there, yeah. At fifteen, Green Bay takes

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Speaker 1: Miles Murphy. Fine, if you were the Patriots, Zo, would

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Speaker 1: you take Richardson over Roderick Jones? Uh? No, at least

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Speaker 1: give back one more year protect them and yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: me too, at said Miles Murphy. Sixteen is Joey Porter Jr. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I might do a quarterback there, Yeah, yeah, which takes

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Speaker 1: you to seventeen, and he has to Steelers taking Deontay

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Speaker 1: Banks to cornerback out of Maryland. I don't know that

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Speaker 1: that would be my pick. There necessarily no based on

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Speaker 1: how this fell. Steelers don't like how this fell because

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Speaker 1: only two quarterbacks are off the board. Only two quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: are off the board. But I would think that you

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Speaker 1: would be getting some calls right now. I would think

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Speaker 1: so too. You'd be getting calls. The Lions are next, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Lions are next. Then you got to Bay, then

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Speaker 1: you got Seattle. I think you get a ton of calls.

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Speaker 1: I think you get calls from those teams trying to

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Speaker 1: move up. And I'd be all all in on moving back.

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Speaker 1: I'm warming up more and more and more to moving

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Speaker 1: back at seventeen. So in a way, if two quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: were sitting there at seventeen might make that easier to happen.

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Speaker 1: But if you're stuck the stick and pick, would you

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Speaker 1: have taken Banks? I mean, there's Branch, there's Bersee, there's

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Speaker 1: to me, with things falling like this, I'm just looking

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Speaker 1: to see where he If he Branch goes, we'll get there.

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Speaker 1: Branch goes at twenty four, Bersee goes at twenty six.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think they feel more of an a

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Speaker 1: pressing need right now for this team. Then the corner

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Speaker 1: then the immediate cornerback, because you can get corners. We've

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Speaker 1: talked about and yeah, you'll get cornerbacks. Deeper into this draft,

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna get those guys. It's a little rough

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Speaker 1: on the Steelers here though. Yeah, you know, based on

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Speaker 1: what happened the draft, right right, right, Um, but I

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Speaker 1: would not cry if Banks was there. Pick at seventeen,

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Speaker 1: I totally understand it. Yeah, I mean, if that's all

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Speaker 1: we gotta, you gotta do it here. He's our highest

581
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Speaker 1: rated guy on the board. You'd just take him. Very athletic. Yeah. Um.

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Speaker 1: At eighteen, Detroit takes Kalija Ancy hmm, Okay, I'd be

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Speaker 1: shocked if they passed on a quarterback twice. Yeah. At nineteen,

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay takes Darnel, Right, they sure need it. There's

585
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Speaker 1: been a lot of talk of moving Worse to left tackle. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I guess this depends who they get, well, darnel right,

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Speaker 1: you're probably moved them to left tack, moved the right

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Speaker 1: to left tackle the right. Twenty Seattle takes Anthony Richardson.

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00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: That's a home run. You get Jailey Carter and Anthony

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Speaker 1: Richardson without moving, without trading out, without moving it all.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I think every Seattle fan would take

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Speaker 1: that in a heartbeat. At twenty one, the Chargers take

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Speaker 1: Bjean Robinson and ye, that's making more and more. Twenty

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Speaker 1: two and the other thing is Ekelers up after the year.

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Speaker 1: I mean, even if you had a year with the

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Speaker 1: two of them, is that the worst time year? All right? Right? Right?

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Speaker 1: Twenty two, the Ravens take camp Smith. Okay, I feel

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Speaker 1: less and less certain he'll be a first rounder. At

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Speaker 1: twenty three, I would take Quentin Johnston if I were

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Speaker 1: them over camp Smith. Yeah, but they just seem to

601
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Speaker 1: completely when we care about them. They draft corners at

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Speaker 1: twenty three is a Flowers goes to the Vikings. Makes

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00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: perfect sense. They have more needs than people realize. Yeah,

604
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: but they could go quarterback, they could go anywhere on defense, receiver.

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Speaker 1: As I mentioned, Brian Branch goes twenty four to the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars be a stabilizing force for them. At twenty five,

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00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: John Michael Schmidts goes to the Giants. They're interior in

608
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: line needs help. Yeah, and they have lost spots. But

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Speaker 1: twenty six, Brian Brusset goes to the Cowboys. I would

610
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Speaker 1: be thrilled if I was a Cowboys saying with that,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah. At twenty seven, Jordan Addison to the Bills,

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Speaker 1: I'd be pretty happy if I was a Bills faying

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Speaker 1: with that right. At twenty eight, Dalton Kincaide at the

614
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Speaker 1: first tight end off the board. It's twenty eight to

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Speaker 1: the Bengals. His buddy dj head Kincade going like twelfth,

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Speaker 1: Bengals just made a signing at tight ends, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: i'd like the earth Smith signing. Yeah, so they had Smith.

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Speaker 1: That's their second one they've signed, right, and they lost

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Speaker 1: Hayden Hurst. I thought they signed to maybe not maybe not.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's the first one. If he stays healthy, that's

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Speaker 1: a big caveat that's a big yeah. He hasn't been

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Speaker 1: able to do it right for that. At twenty nine,

623
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Speaker 1: another tight end comes off the board at Michael Mayer

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Speaker 1: to the Saints. Okay, I could see. I could definitely

625
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: see tight end there, but I think the lines the

626
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: pressing need. At thirty Maizie Smith goes to the Eagles.

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00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: That would make sense too. I mean they're looking for

628
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: a hardgrave, big body, thick, athletic. It couldn't be any

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Speaker 1: different than I don't Again, where's the production. Oh, I

630
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: know it's not close to hardgraves. Uh? And then at

631
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: a bare goes at thirty one to the chiefs. Okay,

632
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: so if things if things fell that way, Levis would

633
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: be sitting there. Levis would be beginning to get called

634
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: calls about thirty two as well. I'm just trying to

635
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: think who best available at each position would be Levis,

636
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: Jamire Gibbs, Johnston Yeah, uh, Dwan Jones, who any other

637
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: Harrison Tipman? Do you want to go interior um? The

638
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: tackles pretty picked over. Yeah, there's probably an edge or

639
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: two the linebackers or they're all sitting there every other safety,

640
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: but I'm thinking about one and I don't think there

641
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: was a corner drafted since Banks, Cam Cam Smith Smith. Okay,

642
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: who do you like there? I like to trade out

643
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: of that spot. Jwan Jones wouldn't break my heart? No, No,

644
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,479
Speaker 1: I mean, I definitely see a tackle there if you've

645
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: taken a cornerback. And that's that's to me, is why

646
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: you know there's not a defensive tackle that I think

647
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: I would take there too. You consider Mazzie Smith if

648
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: he were still available there, I have mixed feelings. I

649
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: have mixed feelings too, like he's never gonna be on

650
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: the field for me in passing downs, right. I mean,

651
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: I'm not talking anything bad about Carl Dunbar, but that's

652
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: a lot of faith in your D line coach to

653
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: say take this unpreductive athlete, this guy that one tackle

654
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: for a loss last year and something. Yeah, I mean,

655
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: it's just asking a lot. Yeah, he could hit. That's

656
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: why to me, if I'm in that situation, I'd rather

657
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: take the big guy. If Brusse is there, I'd rather

658
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: take him at seventeen and then and then get a

659
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: Gringo whoever you want. Ringo thirty two. Yeah, yeah, Ringo

660
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: at thirty two wouldn't break my heart. We know we

661
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: never end up doing that, but that would not break

662
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: my heart absolutely. I mean, and that would be a

663
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: nice Hey, Pat Pete, you and hang out with Ringo

664
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: every day all the time, walk across his grave. You

665
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: guys hang out and just be buddies by Johnny ri

666
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: can Go. He looked like somebody just walked across your grave. Um,

667
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: that joke would never get old at the Steelers drafted.

668
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: It hasn't in the whole draft. Steelers dot Com would

669
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: have to do a whole like dress up a video

670
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: dress him up. Yeah, I guess somebody dress up like

671
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: dark Holiday standing under the tree up by training camp

672
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: and yeah, good stuff. Weird weird mock though there by

673
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: Bye Bucky quarterbacks falling. Yeah, I mean again, it's lying

674
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 1: season and everything change. I'm warming up to the fact

675
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: that it could's up in Indy. I'm hearing more and

676
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: more stuff about perhaps leve Us falling down a little bit. Yeah.

677
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: I don't know what people think of Richardson though, that's

678
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: the he's the He's one of the wild cards. But

679
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: Jehan Robinson's a wild card in this rafah, Jalen Carter's

680
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 1: a wild card in this draft. I still feel like

681
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: Carter's floor is ten though. Yeah, I guess I saw him.

682
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: Could the Bears or somebody else's mock had him falling

683
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: in like nineteen I'm like, you got there's no way.

684
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: There's no way, there's no way. I mean, I know

685
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: he's done something. Let's talk. Okay, So Jalen Carter's there

686
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: at seventeen. Yes, run, Yeah, you sprint to this. And

687
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: just like we talked about Pat Pete, you said, hey, Cam,

688
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 1: he a little project for you. You gotta let's put

689
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: an extra wing. Sidney Crosby moving in with Brenna. We're gonna,

690
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna pay for you to set this guy up

691
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: in your in your house. You guys be best friends

692
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: and you teach them the ways and and you will

693
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: benefit as well. Yeah, the two of you get to

694
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,919
Speaker 1: all those double all those double teams that you've been getting. Yeah,

695
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: he's gonna take a lot of the pressure off. And

696
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: that mean if Ogan Joe, he's your first guy off

697
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: the bench, you know what I mean. And it's third

698
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: and eight and you have came him next to Carter

699
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 1: with Highsmith and Watt. He's the best player in the draft.

700
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: I mean, that's like a Randy Moss like Fall. Yeah. Yeah,

701
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: that's like Warren Sappy. Yeah, the Hall of Famers. Yeah,

702
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: and not all those guys of Fall work out. Some

703
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: of them are screw ups. Yeah, some of them wrong,

704
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 1: really fell because of a reason. But they just drafted

705
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: George Pickens out of Georgia. You heard similar rumblings about

706
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: George Pickens sure last year, immature and all that stuff.

707
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 1: I talked to people, I did. I did a big

708
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: story on him. Um. You know, soon after I got

709
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 1: hired by Steelercos dot com and talked to some people

710
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: at Georgia, talked to people in his hometown. I had

711
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: nobody say anything to me about I talked to Daniel

712
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: Jeremiah about him, um, and nobody was telling me he

713
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: was a bad guy. I got a lot of it

714
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: was he's extremely competitive, yes, you know, right right, and

715
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: there maybe there's an immaturity there. It doesn't mean Carter

716
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: is the same. I've heard immature with him too, you know,

717
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 1: I mean he I think I think when you look

718
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: at George Pickens, from the time he was probably five

719
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: years old, he was going to be a pro receiver. Yeah,

720
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: I mean right, I mean he told he told me

721
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: he was sitting sitting at his desk in you know,

722
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: grade school, in high school, thinking about in his mind

723
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: what what that next great catch was gonna look like?

724
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, this is what the guy did

725
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 1: he was he was born to be a wide receiver,

726
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: sure so, and not like the Steelers are the only

727
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: ones that have a recent Georgia guy. But you obviously

728
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,919
Speaker 1: would call George up and be like, tell me about Jalen. Yeah,

729
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and George is like, dude,

730
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: just bring mine better. Question. What if he's there at

731
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 1: twelve and you gotta go move up. I'm not interested

732
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: in moving up. I don't like moving up in the

733
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 1: draft at all. Yeah, he's the only one I even

734
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: can say, if you were one player away, I think

735
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: you move up right. But I don't think one player

736
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: away is that you know. So it's such a light

737
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: d tackled. I know, I hear you. I hear you.

738
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 1: And he's gonna be a guy. He's a foundational player

739
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: you would hope for a long time. But I mean,

740
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 1: not my job on the line. But if a Genie

741
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: came down and said, hey, Matt, i'll get I'll give

742
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 1: you Jalen Carter for seventeen and forty seven, I say, okay,

743
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: because he's there's not many of them. I get it.

744
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: I get it. And then I don't think he makes

745
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: out of the top. It's not really of them probably

746
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: worth it because you look at like seven eight nine,

747
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: it's Raiders, it's Lions Bears there to this poor Bucky's point,

748
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: I don't think he makes Seattle. I don't either, it's crazy.

749
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: I think all this is working in Seattle's favor greatly.

750
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,919
Speaker 1: Absolutely five, absolutely right, And we're gonna take a break.

751
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale. Lolla. You're listening

752
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. You're also

753
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: watching us. Uh and uh, Well we're gonna take a break.

754
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: We are live from the Arizona Biltmore here in Phoenix

755
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: at the owners meetings. We'll see what what kind of

756
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 1: votes come down today. There's a lot of stuff right

757
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: of the votes this year, to me are like groundbreaking,

758
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: game changing stuff. I'll be on. I haven't done my

759
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: due diligence. I don't even know what's up for vote.

760
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: At the point, I figured you just want to turn Yeah,

761
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: you just want to turn the games on and watch.

762
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 1: I figured we'd do a segment about it and I'd

763
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: learn about it on the fly because I didn't even look.

764
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,240
Speaker 1: I didn't think about to this morning. Yeah, well we'll

765
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: take a break. We'll be back with more right after this,

766
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: welcome back. I am Dale Lollly. He is Matt Williamson.

767
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: And Matt, since you asked about the proposals, let's talk

768
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, let's go through this. Here are the

769
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 1: Competition Committee rule proposals for this year. He is Matt

770
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 1: Williamson on Dale Lollly. This is to drive by the

771
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: Competition Committee to change the definition of a launch to

772
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 1: leaving one or both feet. Okay, okay, I don't love

773
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: how the launch is set up presently, but yeah, okay,

774
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: by the Competition Committee to make a to make the

775
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: penalty for tripping a personal file. Okay, these are small potatoes,

776
00:39:55,200 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: yeah right. Also, by the Competition tripping is almost always intentional, no,

777
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: without doubt. Yeah, yeah, I don't have a problem with that.

778
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: To make the penalty for illegally handing the ball forward

779
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 1: consistent with other illegal acts such as illegal forward passes.

780
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: Illegally handing the ball forward, I don't know what that means.

781
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what. I guess you can't like you're

782
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: talking like after the staff, just like pushing. I don't

783
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: know what that means. There's somebody have to explain that

784
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: one to me. By the competition Kissie Competition Committee to

785
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 1: make the penalty for illegal punts, drop kicks, or place

786
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: kicks consistent with other illegal acts such as illegal forward passes.

787
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: I mean they're really Yeah, there are things that nobody cares. Again,

788
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,439
Speaker 1: that's why none of these are you know, major, major things.

789
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: This is one of the ones though, that's gotten talked

790
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 1: about a lot to put the ball in play at

791
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: the receiving team's twenty five yard line when he touchback

792
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: occurs on a punt. Yeah, that's right. I think that's smart. Yeah,

793
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: touchbacks the touch back yeah right, Yeah, guys are different

794
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: for a punt than Yeah, I would pass that one.

795
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: You might see more teams allowing punch to hit. Then

796
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna get into the twenty five, it's a

797
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: big deal. I'm not gonna field it into certainly. So

798
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: I've talked with Danny Smith about this before and he's

799
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: you know about why team because you always hear every

800
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: time every time a punt return guide fields a punt

801
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: now inside the ten. That used to be a no, no,

802
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: you didn't do that growing up. You've never ever ever

803
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: did that. Right now, you see guys do it well

804
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 1: back in the back in the day. First of all,

805
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: most of your fields were AstroTurf or something of that

806
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: when if the ball hit it was gonna bounce, didn't stick,

807
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 1: it wasn't a soft Right now, you've got so many

808
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: of the fields that you play on our turf or

809
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: they're a soft grass. Even like the turf fields that

810
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: they have now are much softer than the AstroTurf used

811
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: to be. You can deaden to kick there. And he

812
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: said the kickers have gotten so much better at it.

813
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: It's funny because I asked a friend of mine who's

814
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: been a special teams coach in the league too this

815
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: ten years ago. He said, punters have way more pitches

816
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: than they used to. Yea, you know all this Australian stuff.

817
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: They can roll it over, they can do all kinds

818
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: of stuff. Why get it to bounce sideways? They can

819
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: hit a golf ball like Burt Loughton, the steel spr director. Uh,

820
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: you know, there's all kinds of things that they can do.

821
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: They get the backspin on it right and so you

822
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: feel the most of it. They kicked the middle of

823
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: it like they have a lot more clubs in their bag. Yeah,

824
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: whereas twenty years ago it's automatic if you if you

825
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: set yourself up at a ten and you had to

826
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: go backwards, you let the ball hit. Now the people

827
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: were trying for coffin corner stuff they too, you know.

828
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 1: Ye more so that's not the case anymore. No, it's changed.

829
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,240
Speaker 1: The pinners are way better. They have way more control

830
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: by the competition kiss, the competition committee to prevent the

831
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 1: offense from benefiting by an extension of the half as

832
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: a result of their foule. So if the offense commits

833
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: a foul, okay, let's say it's a false start and yeah, no,

834
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: so basically you're cheating the time out. Yeah, okay, No,

835
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: I think that's a good rule. Yeah, to put the

836
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: ball in play at the receiving team's twenty five yard

837
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Speaker 1: line if there's a fair catch on a free kick,

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00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: a kickoff, or a safety kick behind the receiving team's

839
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: twenty five yard line. That's similar to the punt rule.

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00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: Was just the kind of like a college role, like

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00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: you if if the if it's in the so the

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00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: way it is now, if the ball goes into the

843
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: end zone, you get a twenty five. What they're saying

844
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: here is is you if you fair catch the ball

845
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: inside at the ten, yeah, or the five. It would

846
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: automatically go out to the twenty five. I don't like that. Yeah,

847
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of that. That's that's like college

848
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,919
Speaker 1: does that. That's like I have a really good kick. Yeah.

849
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: I didn't get benefited from it, because you see teams

850
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: now trying to place the ball like it, you know,

851
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: at the two and make the team right right. No,

852
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: I don't like that. Uh. And then finally to clarify

853
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: the use of helmet against an opponent by removing the

854
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 1: butt ram spear language from Article eight and incorporating those

855
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: actions in the impermissible use of helmet. I don't know

856
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: what they're talking about. Okay, we got some other ones

857
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: here that These ones are proposed by different teams by

858
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 1: Philadelphia to permit the use of the zero as a

859
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: number Jersey numerole, and to allow kickers and punters to

860
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: use any number between zero to forty nine and ninety

861
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: to ninety nine. You're not allowed to have a zero. No,

862
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: no tens, no twenties. No. You the number zero okay, okay,

863
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: but not not double zero. You can't have double zero, okay,

864
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: I mean we're triple zero. If you're gym otto though.

865
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: That was so cool. Absolutely, if my name started and

866
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,240
Speaker 1: ended with a NO, I would want double zero yeah

867
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: by Philadelphia Chaguanquo. Yeah, to permit team to maintain possession

868
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: of the ball by scoring substitute offensive play fourth and

869
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: twenty uh from the kicking teams twenty yard line instead

870
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: of an on site kick, so you'd have a fourth

871
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: and twenty play instead. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I kicks are flawed,

872
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: but yeah, um, some of these are just kind of

873
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: The one that wasn't brought up is I don't like

874
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 1: aiding a ball carrier, you know, speaking of Eagles, that

875
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: one didn't even make it through the competition community. Everybody

876
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 1: don't think it was gonna pass. Yeah, there's enough teams

877
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: out there that the Steelers do it. Everybody, if you don't,

878
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 1: be crazy if you don't. Yeah, I mean, like the

879
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: Eagles on fourth and one are unstoppable. Yeah, but good

880
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: for them. Yeah, And they have the best line in

881
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: the best running quarterback and we're just looking here like

882
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: hating the ball care anything else that. To expand the

883
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: coaches challenge system and include personal files called on the field,

884
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have a problem with that, But then you're

885
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: getting subjective of course. Yeah, UM to rein there's some

886
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: roughing the pass or stuff in there too. Yeah. Detroit

887
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 1: also wants to provide clubs more opportunities for a third challenge.

888
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to pass. More challenges. Viewers

889
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: don't want that. Yeah. UM to expand replays officials jurisdiction

890
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,720
Speaker 1: to allow for consultation regarding any penalty assessment. So basically

891
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: New York could chime in and say, yeah, that's a penalty.

892
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: I think that's happening more than think Yeah, I think

893
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: that's for sure. UM to expand replay officials jurisdiction to

894
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: allow for review to un failed fourth down attempts. That's

895
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: a huge play. I don't mind stopped the game for that.

896
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: That one was by Houston by the Rams to make

897
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,439
Speaker 1: files for roughing the pass or called on the field

898
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: subject to replay and or review by coaches. Challenge. We

899
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: were about it before we went on the air. That

900
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 1: sounds good, but then you see holds and yeah, you know,

901
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: like Mike Tomlins talked about it, was asked about that

902
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: when yesterday it is press briefing, he said he's not

903
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: in favor of that. Like he said, they the Competition

904
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: Committee reviewed like a hundred personal foul roughing the passer

905
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,919
Speaker 1: penalties last year and they were like three that were

906
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: really Yeah, I mean yeah, if it's three percent, okay, Yeah.

907
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: And then to expand that the crackback prohibition to players

908
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: who go in motion and go beyond the center to

909
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: block the split flow block defender below the waist. They're

910
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: saying to not allow that or to not allow that, Yeah,

911
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 1: to expand it. I guess it's a safety issue. It's

912
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 1: a safety issue. It's kind of like a going load

913
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: than the easy you know, absolute with the head of steam.

914
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, that probably passes. Yeah, I think so. But

915
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: those are the uh, those are the rules that are up. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Off this morning, we're going to take another break. He

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Speaker 1: we'll see how the votes go. But Matt and I

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Speaker 1: will be here until noon today. So you want to

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