WEBVTT - Werewolf Bonanza!

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<v Speaker 1>Oh warning, Today's episode contains spoilers for werewolf movies across

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<v Speaker 1>from many decades.

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<v Speaker 2>And as the moon grows high above you.

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<v Speaker 3>You have been warred.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello. My name is Jason Concepcion and.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Rosey Night and I'm Germany, where the podcast we

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<v Speaker 4>Dine in your favorite movies copp Culture Coming to you

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<v Speaker 4>from our podcast where we're bringing you three huge, full

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<v Speaker 4>Whoa episodes a week, dripping with blood.

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<v Speaker 5>In today's episode, it's a were wolf bonanze in the omnibus,

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<v Speaker 5>recovering the classics, the cult classics, and the foreign films

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<v Speaker 5>that have come to define the genre of were wolf movies.

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<v Speaker 5>In the time capsule, we're looking at some deep cuts

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<v Speaker 5>that you might have missed. And in the back man

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<v Speaker 5>Joe El saw the New wolf Man movie, so you

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<v Speaker 5>don't have to, and she will give us a spoiler

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<v Speaker 5>free review.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's get into the genre of the werewolf movie,

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<v Speaker 1>A wonderful genre. Kind of it's an interesting space because

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of your it's really your third tier monster.

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<v Speaker 1>It's your third pick in the draft of monsters. You

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<v Speaker 1>go vampire probably, yeah, right, then you're gonna go zombie.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, zombie slash Frankenstein.

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<v Speaker 1>Slash Frankenstein, and then yeah, after you've put out a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of vampire and zombie movies, you're gonna go to

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<v Speaker 1>the Wolfman. And in that sense it lives as a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of and what else monster. But there have been

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<v Speaker 1>some true classics, and we have to start with nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>forty one's Wolfman, directed by George Wagner, screenplay by Kurt Siautomack,

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<v Speaker 1>featuring what is by now the iconic transformation scene of

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<v Speaker 1>mister laun Cheney.

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<v Speaker 2>Joelle tell us about The Wolfman.

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<v Speaker 6>So Rosie has been talking to me about universal monster

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<v Speaker 6>movies for a long time. She's like, you have to

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<v Speaker 6>get into them. This is one of the few I

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<v Speaker 6>haven't seen of the main character arts. I saw the

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<v Speaker 6>Franklinstein one long time. I soa always saw the Dracula

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<v Speaker 6>all good, So coming into this I wasn't quite sure

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<v Speaker 6>what to expect, and I actually this is not my

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<v Speaker 6>favorite of the universal Wolfman films, and we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 6>those a little bit later. But what I really enjoyed

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<v Speaker 6>about this movie is like it really establishes the father

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<v Speaker 6>son angle that I think is really essential to Wolfman movies.

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<v Speaker 6>Like Larry that Larry Talbot is your main character. He

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<v Speaker 6>comes back, he's like three times larger than his father.

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<v Speaker 6>Because it's a Hammer film there about the same age.

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<v Speaker 6>Hammer was like, we don't really care location.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone has everyone's kind of accent.

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<v Speaker 6>Listen, we said that's the dad, that's the dad. Just

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<v Speaker 6>lean into it. And so you get this like really great, Like, oh,

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<v Speaker 6>here's a guy who hasn't been home for eighteen years

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<v Speaker 6>and he's trying to reassert himself as like a full

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<v Speaker 6>adult man and have this relationship with his father. And

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<v Speaker 6>I thought that was really beautiful. I also like that

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<v Speaker 6>this man has zero swagger, which is the thing I

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<v Speaker 6>don't think we see in Hollywood films anymore. He tries

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<v Speaker 6>to hit on this girl. She's like, yeah, I'm engaged

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<v Speaker 6>to thinking. He's like, oh, let me just like take

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<v Speaker 6>you out. I saw you got some cool earrings on

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<v Speaker 6>your nightstand. She's like, how you know? I was just

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<v Speaker 6>peeping on you with a telescope. It's totally fine. Zero

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<v Speaker 6>zero game. He's like you very much hear every man,

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<v Speaker 6>And you're kind of annoyed with him until he gets

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<v Speaker 6>bit and then you you switch. You sort of start

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<v Speaker 6>to feel for him, like Oh no, that's just like

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<v Speaker 6>a regular dude trying to get through his life. And

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<v Speaker 6>I think this movie holds up pretty well. It's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 6>What do you guys think about this one?

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<v Speaker 3>I think this is definitely a classic.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's gone one of the best wolf man

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<v Speaker 5>wear wolf designs.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we all still see that as.

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<v Speaker 2>Iconic, iconic were wolf.

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<v Speaker 3>Long Cheney's always great at being a monster.

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<v Speaker 5>I also think that something that me and Joel were

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<v Speaker 5>talking about about these Universal Monster movies is like they

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<v Speaker 5>laid the groundwork for a lot of what the MCU

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<v Speaker 5>is doing now, where you basically have a stable of actors,

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<v Speaker 5>you have a stable of characters, but you can kind

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<v Speaker 5>of mix them up, like Claude Rains is in this movie,

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<v Speaker 5>he played the Invisible Man. Best movie, he played Dracula.

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<v Speaker 6>And he plays Layla. In this movie he plays He

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<v Speaker 6>plays a fortune teller named Bayla. I went back to

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<v Speaker 6>try to find the story to be like with coincidence,

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<v Speaker 6>this story was written in like eighteen thirty one. It's

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<v Speaker 6>a short story from like a middling writer, and no,

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<v Speaker 6>no Bayla in that that I could find. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 6>were just crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>He's just so great. He's the famous, and so I

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<v Speaker 3>love that.

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<v Speaker 5>Also, as we will get into it a bit, they

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<v Speaker 5>would then start doing these kind of crossover movies where

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<v Speaker 5>they would bring all the characters together and it's very

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<v Speaker 5>original shared universe vibes, which I think are really interesting. Also,

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<v Speaker 5>we did solve a mystery while talking about this movie

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<v Speaker 5>before we were recording, which is I had always thought

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<v Speaker 5>as a little kid that the end of teen Wolf.

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<v Speaker 3>Was that Michael J.

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<v Speaker 5>Fox's character got killed by being bludgeoned to death by

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<v Speaker 5>like his dad's walking stick with a silver wolf head

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<v Speaker 5>on it. No, that's actually the end of wolf Man,

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<v Speaker 5>which I must have seen or read about when I

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<v Speaker 5>was a little kid, and that was always really funny

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<v Speaker 5>because I always thought Teen Wolf was a lot gloria

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<v Speaker 5>and more brutal. And then when I watched Tea Wolf too,

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, wait, he's still alive. How did this happen?

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, I think this is a great classic. I

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<v Speaker 5>also will just say, guys, Universal Monsters, there's a full

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<v Speaker 5>Universal Wants this channel that you can just watch on

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<v Speaker 5>Roku or Pluto and they just play these movies like NonStop.

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<v Speaker 3>It has been a true education.

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<v Speaker 1>Ender to me, really really fun there they're wonderful movies.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned it up. Next, let's talk about a more

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<v Speaker 1>modern classic, teen Wolf nineteen eighty five. Teen Wolf direct

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<v Speaker 1>by Rod Daniel, screenlay by Jeff Lobe and matthe Slobe.

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<v Speaker 6>What are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, the debut film for TV's Michael J.

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<v Speaker 2>Fox.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow and a wonderful teen werewolf movie, in which Michael J.

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<v Speaker 2>Fox plays Scott, who, in.

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<v Speaker 1>What is a trench at puberty metaphor, goes through a

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<v Speaker 1>change one night, wakes up, looks in the mirror, discovers

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<v Speaker 1>that he's a werewolf. Here's a knock on his door,

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<v Speaker 1>and opens his door to find his dad, also werewolf.

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<v Speaker 2>He is from a family of werewolves.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys. I feel like he I feel like he stat

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<v Speaker 3>should have told him not before.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna He's very Yeah, they weren't sure, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was saying so he wanted to see how it

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<v Speaker 1>played out. But to be fair, he was right there

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<v Speaker 1>at once the moon had risen high in the sky

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<v Speaker 1>and the transurrasion taking place.

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<v Speaker 2>He was right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny on the spot to talk to him about the

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<v Speaker 1>changes that poor Scott is undergoing. Scott tries to keep

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<v Speaker 1>this hidden from people. But of course transformation happens in

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<v Speaker 1>a very public way at at a high school basketball

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<v Speaker 1>game that he then goes on to dominate and he

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<v Speaker 1>becomes like the star basketball player in the one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best scenes.

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<v Speaker 6>In cinematic history, that long walk downwards to then a

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<v Speaker 6>slam dunk. Fabulous, guys.

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<v Speaker 5>I have to say the fact that Jeff lo broke

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<v Speaker 5>this makes a lot of sense because this does follow

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<v Speaker 5>one of the classic racist tropes in movies, which is

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<v Speaker 5>if somebody is turning into a monster or slash evil,

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<v Speaker 5>then they get good at stuff that white people think

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<v Speaker 5>black people are good at. So like he gets good

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<v Speaker 5>at basketball, he gets good at dancing.

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<v Speaker 6>Wait a minute, because I thought him going for the

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<v Speaker 6>white blonde girl was also felt che toned because she is.

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<v Speaker 3>Like because think about this guy's Spider Man three.

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<v Speaker 7>When he's got the black seat, Suddenly he becomes really

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<v Speaker 7>good at dancing.

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<v Speaker 6>And he's really true and swap. It's like a.

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<v Speaker 3>Really weird Hollywood trope. And Jeff Lobe, I know, I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I know you wrote I think that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to be fair to Jeff and all of us, I

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<v Speaker 1>think he might have been so deep in the matrix

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<v Speaker 1>that he didn't see the ones in the zeros on.

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<v Speaker 2>This particular trope. No, that's but you're one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 2>correct about about what this is.

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<v Speaker 1>Where did we This is a movie I remember seeing

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<v Speaker 1>as a kid and seeing a like I've seen.

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<v Speaker 2>This movie probably five hundred times.

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<v Speaker 1>It's later taken on some easter egg like significance in

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<v Speaker 1>that famously a guy like has his nuts out in

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<v Speaker 1>the last scene of the movie.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, yes, what yeah, And oh you've not heard this, Joel, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>this is I.

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<v Speaker 6>Was not aware Wolf Gurley growing up, and so actually

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<v Speaker 6>this is my first time watching ton of these movies,

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<v Speaker 6>including teen Wolf, which, like my initial thought was like,

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<v Speaker 6>is this the funniest movie ever made? Made? It's so

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<v Speaker 6>when Dad opens the door, I was dying.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like that, I thought, honestly, no, bullshit. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the great twists and reveals, like in a in

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<v Speaker 1>the genre rearly is because you are not expecting that.

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<v Speaker 5>You think he's gonna open the door and be like, horres,

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<v Speaker 5>oh no, my son was going on there, and then

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<v Speaker 5>he's like, hey, guess what, guys, I'm aware Wolf also Hereditary,

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<v Speaker 5>which is very interesting because that definitely is something I

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<v Speaker 5>think that the new Wolfman like leans into is this

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<v Speaker 5>idea of like a hereditary were wolf type situation. So

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<v Speaker 5>I'm I did think that's an interesting trope that establishes. Also, Joel,

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<v Speaker 5>you pointed out one of the things I think is

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<v Speaker 5>the most important about this movie.

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<v Speaker 3>How good are the jackets in this movie?

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<v Speaker 2>The incredible Letterman jacket.

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<v Speaker 6>I was prepared to go shopping watching this film. Unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 6>The style is really on point in this movie in

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<v Speaker 6>a great way. It's lovely.

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<v Speaker 1>They really make you want to go out for a

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<v Speaker 1>varsity team. And funnily Funnily enough, I was watching the

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<v Speaker 1>Traders Program reality television program, allan International Legend, International legend,

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<v Speaker 1>human peacock, allen Coming, eating up every fucking scene. Wes

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<v Speaker 1>from the MTVS the challenge shows up in a Letterman

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<v Speaker 1>jacket and it sent me down a rabbit hole looking

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<v Speaker 1>up the history of Letterman jackets and wondering to myself,

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<v Speaker 1>could I pull awful?

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<v Speaker 5>Could I could?

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<v Speaker 1>Yet? By the way Letterman jackets they started as Letterman

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<v Speaker 1>sweaters as a way to denote in the eighteen sixties

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<v Speaker 1>which Harvard baseball players were the best they got.

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<v Speaker 2>The Letterman sweater anyway baseball.

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<v Speaker 6>That's exactly exactly. We also say this film has some

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<v Speaker 6>of the best secondary characters, just very quickly, like that

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<v Speaker 6>the best friend who has a crush on the lead guy,

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<v Speaker 6>and then Styles is my favorite chaos agent maybe of

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<v Speaker 6>all times because Styles. What makes sounds so interesting is like,

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<v Speaker 6>there's nothing that bothers this kid, and the only thing

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<v Speaker 6>you know about him is he has zero impulse control,

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<v Speaker 6>you know about Like he's just like he's a brother

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<v Speaker 6>that smokes. I guess that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that this guy is a wolf. He's like this,

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<v Speaker 3>we could do a lot of Yeah, this is like,

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<v Speaker 3>this is great.

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<v Speaker 6>This is like I just surfed on top of this

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<v Speaker 6>moving van like Styles, Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>Please like suh.

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<v Speaker 5>I definitely do think that this is very unique in

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<v Speaker 5>that it's not a horror comedy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just a comedy.

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<v Speaker 5>Like it's just like what would happen if a guy

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<v Speaker 5>was a were wolf and everyone was cool with it?

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody and everybody is immediately cool with it. Yeah, everybody's like,

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<v Speaker 2>seems good. He's averaging thirty in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>We might as well, yeah, school everybody.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like if that was a were wolf in

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<v Speaker 5>the NBA who is just like never missing like and

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<v Speaker 5>never missing A three. They'd be like, yeah, cool, I

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<v Speaker 5>guess guess.

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<v Speaker 6>He's that Hi number three.

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<v Speaker 1>I think my favorite werewolf film of all time an

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<v Speaker 1>American War Wolf in London, directed by the infamous John Landis,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we should say, screenplay also by John Landis,

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<v Speaker 1>starring David Naughton Jenny I get a Griffin Dunn in

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<v Speaker 1>a wonderful role, both dead and alive. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>the thing to me that sets this movie apart head

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<v Speaker 1>and shoulders apart one is the hyper violence and the

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<v Speaker 1>incredible like yeah, the cinematography that puts you in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the pov of the wolf, and the incredible and

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<v Speaker 1>truly like troubling transformation scenes. But also this movie is hilarious,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's it's so funny, funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Very very funny.

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<v Speaker 5>The balance of scares and laughs has maybe never been

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<v Speaker 5>more well done than in this movie. I don't know

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<v Speaker 5>if there's any other horror comedy that can reach the

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<v Speaker 5>heights of how compleatly funny it is, but also the

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<v Speaker 5>kind of horror of the first time you see Griffin

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<v Speaker 5>done come back.

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<v Speaker 1>And worn up, make up quick quick synopsis. David played

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<v Speaker 1>by David Naughton and Gryffin Done his buddy Jack are

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<v Speaker 1>like backpacking through what appears to be like whales or.

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<v Speaker 3>Something like that.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like the Midlands. It's like up north call it.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's kind of you're in England, but you're in

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<v Speaker 5>like a rural area where everybody's like a farmer and

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<v Speaker 5>they don't want to see you.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't want you to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>The Celtic like culture here is very strong apparently, and

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<v Speaker 1>they wander into like a pub.

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<v Speaker 6>Where the entire slaughter lamb.

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<v Speaker 1>The slaughter lamb, entire town is like hold up in

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<v Speaker 1>this pub and it's like that classic thing of like

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<v Speaker 1>it goes silent when these guys walk in. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>feeling the vibes. They decide to like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>let's leave here. It's it's weird here. Let's leave. Everybody's like,

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<v Speaker 1>don't do that, and they're like, yeah, we're gonna go.

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<v Speaker 1>They're attacked by a werewolf that kills Jack. David is

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<v Speaker 1>merely wounded, and then of course his nightmare truly begins

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<v Speaker 1>because he begins transforming into werewolf at regular intervals and

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<v Speaker 1>also seeing visions of all the people who he has killed.

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<v Speaker 1>They will come and like sit with him and his

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<v Speaker 1>friend Jack Griffin Dunn, in what are the funniest scenes

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<v Speaker 1>in the movie, just roasts him throughout.

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<v Speaker 5>He's like, you saw your howf is gonna kill people?

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<v Speaker 3>Just fucking kill yourself? Like yeah, survive, like don't.

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<v Speaker 5>Keep pushing through this, please, And you get some really

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<v Speaker 5>fantastic shots of like early eighties, late seventies London in

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<v Speaker 5>this this kind of it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Really really cool. I love the slaughtered lamb is like

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<v Speaker 3>a legendary space.

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<v Speaker 5>Now there are slaughtered lamp pubs out there inspired by

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<v Speaker 5>this really notable Rick Baker winning the inaugural Academy Award

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<v Speaker 5>for Best Makeup, no question, because this is like has

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<v Speaker 5>what I would say is the most iconic and terrifying

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<v Speaker 5>where we'll transformation set, Like.

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<v Speaker 6>The slide us from like human to wolf is so

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<v Speaker 6>terrifying and like really really holds up. I think I

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<v Speaker 6>saw this really is very young and it's in a

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<v Speaker 6>long time. Yeah, it gives really creepy. But what I

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<v Speaker 6>had forgotten about this film is Jack's deterioration. Like every

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<v Speaker 6>time Jack pops back up, he's a little more rotted,

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<v Speaker 6>a little more dead, to the point where the last

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<v Speaker 6>part I think they're using a puppet for him his

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<v Speaker 6>face because it's like mostly skeleton, like you're releasing teeth

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<v Speaker 6>and stuff, and it's so good and so creepy, and

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<v Speaker 6>you really I buy these guys, Like, I think this

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<v Speaker 6>is one of those rare films you could show children today,

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<v Speaker 6>not tell them what time period it was, and while

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<v Speaker 6>they would recognize it as being older, they probably wouldn't

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<v Speaker 6>be able to pinpoint it. It's very timeless.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's a really it is truly just a brilliant movie,

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<v Speaker 5>Like you just can't question it. So I'd say, if

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<v Speaker 5>you are listening to this and you are not immersed

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<v Speaker 5>in the werewolf genre and you like horror, because this

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<v Speaker 5>one is scary, Like I wouldn't put an Aaron through

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<v Speaker 5>watching this. No, yeah, this this one, I would really say,

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<v Speaker 5>like start here because it's really the peak's remarkable.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a remarkable film again by the infamous John Landis,

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<v Speaker 2>who caused the deaths of three people while directing The

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<v Speaker 2>Twilight Zone. R R.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so those are really the kind of those are

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<v Speaker 1>our photlastics.

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<v Speaker 6>So let's talk.

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<v Speaker 1>Now about what are the ones that we love that

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<v Speaker 1>are not one of these three.

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<v Speaker 8>We'll be right back after a quick break, and we're back.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just go.

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<v Speaker 1>We have our list put together by Joel. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much, Thank you, the list of cult classics and

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<v Speaker 1>foreign were wolf films and deep cut films. But maybe

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<v Speaker 1>let's just talk about the ones that we really like. Joel,

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<v Speaker 1>did we even start at you? What's what's a weird?

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<v Speaker 1>What's your favorite non podium werewoll film?

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, surprising probably everyone, including myself, I had never seen

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<v Speaker 6>Ginger Snaps. I don't know how you've been blast. I

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<v Speaker 6>can think of is that? Okay, nineteen ninety It comes

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<v Speaker 6>out in two thousand, so I turn eleven that year.

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<v Speaker 6>But it's coming off of Columbine, and there is a

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<v Speaker 6>huge effort by the government to suppress violent films aimed

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<v Speaker 6>at teenagers specifically, which this absolutely is. So I think

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<v Speaker 6>I got caught up in that. And then I also

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<v Speaker 6>wasn't a werewolf girly, and so.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also film like I remember, like I'm I was

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<v Speaker 1>plugged into it for TV. I was plugged, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I love movies and horror movies. I didn't see this

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<v Speaker 1>or hear about it until maybe three or four or

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<v Speaker 1>five years later.

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<v Speaker 3>It was definitely.

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<v Speaker 5>A film that made it to England when I was

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<v Speaker 5>like fourteen or fifteen, so a couple of years after this,

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<v Speaker 5>and then I was like, you know, every girl I knew,

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<v Speaker 5>especially because I was like an emo, like go little kid,

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<v Speaker 5>sure were like obsessed with it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, did someone watch my adolescence and make

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<v Speaker 6>a movie out of it? Like there's weird suicide packs,

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<v Speaker 6>there's like we're experimenting with weed for the first time

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<v Speaker 6>of like the outfits, Like everything about this movie felt

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<v Speaker 6>very much like it was designed for me at a

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<v Speaker 6>very like thirteen year old me.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just a crazy question.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, all right, So you have two sisters, Ginger and Bridget,

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<v Speaker 6>and they are inseparable. They make a pack to die together.

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<v Speaker 6>By sixteen, Ginger is your stereotypical beautiful girl shell red

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<v Speaker 6>hair and blue eyes, but she loves her sister, Bridget,

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<v Speaker 6>who's like awkward and doesn't really want to be talking

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<v Speaker 6>to people. When Ginger starts to demonstrate, she also gets

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<v Speaker 6>fitten by a wolf, so she starts to turn into

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<v Speaker 6>a were wolf, and as she does, she has like

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<v Speaker 6>a sexual awakening. This is classic were wolf fodder. You

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<v Speaker 6>get a sexual awakening, you get weird townies that are

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<v Speaker 6>scared of her, and she starts being mean to her sister,

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<v Speaker 6>separating herself, and it's very difficult. They have this mother

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<v Speaker 6>who is iconic, this mother who's like very close to

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<v Speaker 6>being like I wanted to divorce your father. He's completely

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<v Speaker 6>useless and I hate him and I love my daughters,

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<v Speaker 6>but I want my youngest Bridget to really stand up

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<v Speaker 6>for herself, like you're a person too, don't always follow

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<v Speaker 6>in Ginger shadow, And between the three of them they

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<v Speaker 6>start to try to like figure out like how to

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<v Speaker 6>help Ginger, who's suddenly like I love being a wolf,

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<v Speaker 6>I like eating people. I love powerful and sexy, and

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<v Speaker 6>I don't want to change. And she becomes so much

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<v Speaker 6>a wolf that she forgets about her sister. Her sister

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<v Speaker 6>starts up a friendly relationship with a drug dealing sexual

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<v Speaker 6>dv and who sometimes leads with high school girls gross,

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<v Speaker 6>but together they find a cure. Unfortunately, she's not able

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<v Speaker 6>to deliver the current time drug dealer dies, lots of

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<v Speaker 6>other people die, and in the end, it feels like

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<v Speaker 6>there are sequels to this movie, so I know that

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<v Speaker 6>more happens, but it feels like.

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<v Speaker 2>Which it has to kill little cottage industry.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, but it's a delightful film. Like I feel

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<v Speaker 6>so much for Bridget I love her. This movie is funny.

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<v Speaker 6>It's so funny. And even their bully, who at first

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<v Speaker 6>you hate because she's just kind of jealous and starky

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<v Speaker 6>and hitting them with their play a lot of field hockey.

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<v Speaker 6>By the end, she's like, hey, this drug do had

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<v Speaker 6>sex with me? He does doesn't care about me, and

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<v Speaker 6>I hate that. And you girls on top of that

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<v Speaker 6>are mein back to me and at the end you're

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<v Speaker 6>just like I feel for this girl too. I love

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<v Speaker 6>all the women in this but we could tell a

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<v Speaker 6>woman wrote it. It's brilliant.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. I this was such a huge movie for me,

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<v Speaker 5>and I think it really stands up and the test,

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<v Speaker 5>like the Zeros was actually like an incredible time for

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<v Speaker 5>like subversive female teen movies. Absolutely obviously Jennifer's Body May

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<v Speaker 5>That's another one that I've seen a lot of people revisiting.

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<v Speaker 5>That's like a golf classic about a woman who can't

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<v Speaker 5>make a friend, so she starts to like make friends

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<v Speaker 5>out of dead bodies. Like just some really cool weird

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<v Speaker 5>stuff coming out of that era, and yeah, I love

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<v Speaker 5>this movie. I think this is so in line with

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<v Speaker 5>what our discord would enjoy.

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<v Speaker 3>So I will just say, feel.

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<v Speaker 6>Like, Lisa Frankenstein, you're like this movie if you yes.

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<v Speaker 5>If you're a Jennifer's body truth that you will enjoy

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<v Speaker 5>this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>It does a great teen movie drama thing, which is

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<v Speaker 1>is like what happens when two friends grow apart?

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<v Speaker 5>Like, yeah, exactly, like what happens when one of you

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<v Speaker 5>outgrows the other one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And it's just like it's.

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<v Speaker 5>A really good movie, very heartbreaking every time I watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, just see what about you, Rosie, what's

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<v Speaker 1>yeah your favorite?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, I'm gonna go for Wolf Walkers because I actually, yes,

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<v Speaker 5>I actually like hadn't seen this movie, and I wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>sure I was gonna love it.

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<v Speaker 2>This was like a couple.

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<v Speaker 5>This was maybe like I watched it for the first

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<v Speaker 5>time maybe like two years ago. I had an Apple

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<v Speaker 5>TV Plus subscription to watch like Severance or something.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, oh, you know what I do like?

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<v Speaker 5>Uh this studio's movies, Yeah, Cartoon Salon, But I always

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<v Speaker 5>I I like the way the movies looked. But I

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<v Speaker 5>often met hot like found it harder to like emotionally

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<v Speaker 5>connect with the movies. But I was like, I want

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<v Speaker 5>to watch something that's really beautiful, and I love like

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<v Speaker 5>a two D animated movie. But this movie just blew

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<v Speaker 5>me away, Like I was crying. I was like really

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<v Speaker 5>moved by it. I thought it was absolutely stunningly directed.

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<v Speaker 5>So basically it is an Englishman Bill Goodfellow. He's summoned

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<v Speaker 5>to kill Kenny in Ireland in sixteen oh five to

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<v Speaker 5>deal with like a pack of ravaging wolves that are

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<v Speaker 5>terrorizing the town. His kind of wild daughter, who loves

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<v Speaker 5>to be in the forest and loves to be outside

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<v Speaker 5>and wants to be a wolf hunter, ends up running

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<v Speaker 5>into a wolf and basically becoming connected with the wolf,

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<v Speaker 5>and suddenly they start a friendship, and Robin ends up

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<v Speaker 5>getting bitten, and Robin ends up turning into what they

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<v Speaker 5>call a wolf walker. She's a human by night by day,

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<v Speaker 5>and by night she's a wolf. And it is so

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<v Speaker 5>unbelievable to watch this movie and to see the way

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<v Speaker 5>that they they essentially make it a movie about the

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<v Speaker 5>witch hunts, but through the lens of wolf hunting, which

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<v Speaker 5>I think is really interesting. There is a scary kind

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<v Speaker 5>of evil proctor who's called the Lord Protector, very very

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<v Speaker 5>similar vibes, and it ends up where you get like

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<v Speaker 5>the village kind of turning on the Proctor and people

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<v Speaker 5>deciding they want to help the wolves. And I just

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<v Speaker 5>thought this was such an incredible movie. I've rewatched it

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<v Speaker 5>so many times. It is directed by Tom Moore and

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<v Speaker 5>Russ Stewart, screenplay by Will Collins.

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<v Speaker 3>It has Sean bean.

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<v Speaker 5>Our obviously got favorite Bill Goodfellow, Eva Whitaker as Mave,

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<v Speaker 5>and Maria Doyle as mal I want to Neep Say

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<v Speaker 5>as Robin Goodfellow. This movie is so unbelievable. And I

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<v Speaker 5>remember when it came out the whole critic class, like

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<v Speaker 5>everyone I knew or my colleagues, they were like, this

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<v Speaker 5>is the movie. Like this movie needs to win an OSCAR,

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<v Speaker 5>Like this movie needs to be recognized and talked about,

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<v Speaker 5>and this movie shows that you can still make an

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<v Speaker 5>incredible two de animated movie. And it's true, and the

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<v Speaker 5>music in this movie is incredible. Like I discovered this and,

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<v Speaker 5>in my opinion, the very underrated Pixar movie Luca around

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<v Speaker 5>the same time. They both came out in the COVID

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<v Speaker 5>times and were not necessarily given the huge push that

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<v Speaker 5>they would have been given otherwise, and both of them

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<v Speaker 5>I think are such fantastic entries into the monster genre.

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<v Speaker 5>And Luca is also like you know, however much Pixar

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<v Speaker 5>and the creator's sale, it's it's not necessarily about like

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<v Speaker 5>being gay, it's definitely about being gay.

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<v Speaker 6>They need.

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<v Speaker 3>There is an extremely.

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<v Speaker 5>Great monster movie in the vein of like a Creature

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<v Speaker 5>from the Black Lagoon, but about coming out and about

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<v Speaker 5>your first love and finding friendship, and.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 5>So both of those movies hit me at like a

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<v Speaker 5>very good time and I would definitely this one's still

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<v Speaker 5>on Apple tv Plus if you've got that subscription, go

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<v Speaker 5>and watch it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so so good.

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<v Speaker 6>Gorgeous, wow, great wreck.

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<v Speaker 1>As we mentioned on this pod before, Apple TV Plus

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<v Speaker 1>subscription very easy to get.

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<v Speaker 2>They'll give it to you.

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<v Speaker 5>You can get that. You can get it for free

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<v Speaker 5>on best Buy. Just go to best Buy and write

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<v Speaker 5>Apple TV Plus. They'll just have a code for you.

0:26:20.119 --> 0:26:22.399
<v Speaker 5>Target if you've ever bought anything from there, they're offering

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<v Speaker 5>it to you card to buy anything and there.

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<v Speaker 2>The back of trucks in the street.

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<v Speaker 3>Just go get give it, take it please. We don't

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<v Speaker 3>need the money.

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<v Speaker 6>Where Apple.

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<v Speaker 5>Just make it a free service silo. Also, like the

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<v Speaker 5>Tetris movie is so good making it's Joel, you would

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<v Speaker 5>love it. It's like a Cold War thriller about Tetris

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<v Speaker 5>and creator rights and about this friendship between the American

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<v Speaker 5>an American guy who's trying to get the Tetris rights

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<v Speaker 5>for England and the Russian guy who actually made Tetris.

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<v Speaker 5>And it is unbelievable. Like that is such a fantastic movie.

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<v Speaker 1>This is an aside, but one of these days we

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<v Speaker 1>need to study Taron Edgerton's IMDb because this he is.

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<v Speaker 6>That I have.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a tremendous respect for mister Tarren Edgerton, who

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<v Speaker 1>has who selects roles in a very strange in Munich fashion.

0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:32.800
<v Speaker 3>And it's going great for him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's really like he was a guy who would like

0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:37.560
<v Speaker 1>they were clearly like setting up in The Kingsman to

0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:41.320
<v Speaker 1>be like this the young action movie guy. And he's like, no,

0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:43.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm not doing that shit. I'm gonna get weird.

0:27:43.400 --> 0:27:45.400
<v Speaker 3>He's like, yeah, I'm gonna play else in John.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm gonna be very I'm gonna just do crazy things.

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<v Speaker 1>My pick, Yeah, I'm gonna pick. There's so many uh

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<v Speaker 1>that I really enjoy. I love the nineties Jack Nicholson

0:27:57.080 --> 0:27:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Vehicle Wolf, which is one of the thought so I

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand how it got made, what the pitch was.

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<v Speaker 1>It's badly why crazy movie about Jack Nicholson discovering, as

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<v Speaker 1>a middle aged man, his virility after he's bitten by

0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 1>a wolf and he starts like becoming like a like

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<v Speaker 1>a bully at work and pissing on guys shoes and just.

0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:21.440
<v Speaker 3>Being he's like, he's just a really horny guy.

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:26.639
<v Speaker 1>It just becomes extremely horny, very very weird movie. But

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<v Speaker 1>the one I'm gonna pick is nineteen eighty one's The

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<v Speaker 1>Howling because I think it's really scary, like legend Joe Dante.

0:28:35.280 --> 0:28:38.240
<v Speaker 1>I think this is the movie he made after Pirana.

0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 1>I think maybe and love that movie. It is super creepy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about a Karen, a reporter in la who's working

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<v Speaker 1>on this story about a serial killer who's like kind

0:28:51.760 --> 0:28:54.760
<v Speaker 1>of like the night Stalker, you know, the film version

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<v Speaker 1>of the night Stalker. And she goes to meet him

0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:03.000
<v Speaker 1>and and he transforms into a werewolf moments before he

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<v Speaker 1>is shot and killed by police. So she begins digging

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<v Speaker 1>into it. And turns out like he's the evidence leads

0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:13.280
<v Speaker 1>her to this weird commune up in the Pacific northwest

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:16.520
<v Speaker 1>of like sex hippies, and it turns out the sex

0:29:16.600 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 1>hippies are like a or like a werewolf cult, and

0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:26.120
<v Speaker 1>she gets embroiled in this thing and it's got some

0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:31.120
<v Speaker 1>really good transformations that are super super creepy. There's this

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<v Speaker 1>whole kind of undercurrent of like the dark side of

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<v Speaker 1>the hippie phenomenon of this, like is nineteen eighty one,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're like on the.

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<v Speaker 2>Other side of hippies.

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:44.160
<v Speaker 1>The hippies are like in their thirties now, and it's

0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 1>got so it's got this undercurrent of like what was

0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 1>it all for?

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:51.920
<v Speaker 2>Like what were we really doing? That is really really.

0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 1>Fun and it's just got it a phenomenally dark, weird

0:29:56.840 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 1>vibe and it ends on a downer, which I always like,

0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:04.959
<v Speaker 1>you know, in a horror movie in particular.

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<v Speaker 5>Very classic were wolf traditions down they almost always die.

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<v Speaker 5>You know. Something else that I was thinking that the

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<v Speaker 5>howling is also there's a cottage industry of sequels, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I got all filmed like in Romania and Czechoslovaka, various

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<v Speaker 1>tax shelters across the Globe and they're all really bad.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, yeah, but no no, some of the Howling

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Speaker 5>ones are like crazy though, so you gotta watch.

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<v Speaker 3>They're like be martial.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, let me just say the Howling Marsupials, which I

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<v Speaker 1>think is the one they did in Australia. Chey that

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<v Speaker 1>one out for just being absolletely because.

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<v Speaker 5>But the thing is, I think that and there is

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<v Speaker 5>also a really famously hated sequel to American Wealth in London,

0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:53.040
<v Speaker 5>which is American Wealth in Paris, which is actually again

0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:54.280
<v Speaker 5>totally bonked.

0:30:54.520 --> 0:30:56.280
<v Speaker 6>Watching and fucking awful.

0:30:56.600 --> 0:30:58.600
<v Speaker 3>There's really crazy stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>So the thing I find is really interesting is like

0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:05.600
<v Speaker 5>there is obviously a you know, pun intended hunger for

0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 5>werewolf movies, so it's kind of funny that we don't

0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 5>actually get more mainstream werewolf movies, but the B movie

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:15.720
<v Speaker 5>element of just making loads of sequels keeps happening because

0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:17.640
<v Speaker 5>there aren't a lot of high profile ones, like the

0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:20.880
<v Speaker 5>rest of ours are mostly kind of deep cut.

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<v Speaker 6>Though.

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<v Speaker 5>I will say the one that we haven't talked about

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<v Speaker 5>that I do think is an interesting inclusion that was

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<v Speaker 5>a huge h is Underworld.

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<v Speaker 3>Again Cohage industry of sequels.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you mentioned Before we get into that, you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>something I think is right, which is that because you're

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<v Speaker 1>in the this is your third tier monster.

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<v Speaker 2>Essentially, there is a strong.

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<v Speaker 1>B movie element, even when they try to do something

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<v Speaker 1>you know, triple.

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<v Speaker 2>A like Wolf.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly. That's such a good point. It is like

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<v Speaker 3>a movie.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's talk about Underworld, which I think are underrated

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<v Speaker 1>films to it. I agree Wiseman directed films, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>starring the knockout action star Kate's Sales.

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<v Speaker 5>Who I believe was Len Wiseman's wife at this point,

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<v Speaker 5>so as a limit on did they maybe on the set,

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<v Speaker 5>but then then she became his wife Because this is

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<v Speaker 5>a movie that has I don't even know how many

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<v Speaker 5>Underworld sequels there are, It's like at least four or

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<v Speaker 5>five at least. And also I just want to say,

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<v Speaker 5>the screenplay in this case is like a murderer's more

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<v Speaker 5>of interesting people.

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<v Speaker 3>Lem Wise Man, good for you still doing it.

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<v Speaker 5>But Kevin Gravau, who is a comic book guy and

0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 5>also a movie guy, and also Danny McBride, who I

0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:41.120
<v Speaker 5>feel like pops up doing punch ups on the funniest

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:42.479
<v Speaker 5>funniest things.

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<v Speaker 2>The cast is.

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<v Speaker 1>An iconic mix of like CW actors jumping up a level, yeah,

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:59.200
<v Speaker 1>and like Shakespeare trained actors jumping down five levels, like Michael.

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<v Speaker 6>She As having the White Friends Lucien fucking loving it.

0:33:06.680 --> 0:33:12.720
<v Speaker 5>Also trapping himself to be in Twilight as one of

0:33:12.760 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 5>the Vulturia.

0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:15.520
<v Speaker 3>Very legendary Michael Sheen performance.

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<v Speaker 5>Also, I think Michael Sheen and Kate Beckhensale were married

0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 5>for a while and had a kid, so maybe there's

0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:26.160
<v Speaker 5>some kind of romantic love triangle going on here. But yeah,

0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:29.520
<v Speaker 5>Underworld is basically hilarious because somebody was like, what if

0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:33.480
<v Speaker 5>the Matrix were but you just took the aesthetics of

0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:36.800
<v Speaker 5>the Matrix, not the politics of the Matrixx, just.

0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:38.280
<v Speaker 3>The aesthetics of the Matrix.

0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:43.479
<v Speaker 5>But it's about a world where vampires and were wolfs

0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:47.479
<v Speaker 5>are in like an unholy battle for survival.

0:33:46.960 --> 0:33:49.200
<v Speaker 3>In this like weird gothic Underworld.

0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:54.720
<v Speaker 1>I love it because it's legitimately a movie that when

0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:58.040
<v Speaker 1>you're eight, hanging out with your friends, you would write,

0:33:58.120 --> 0:34:01.800
<v Speaker 1>if you had the capability of right, yes, war between

0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:04.880
<v Speaker 1>the werewolves of the vampires.

0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 7>And the only person who can stop them is this

0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:11.240
<v Speaker 7>really sexy vampire looks like she's from like a nineties

0:34:11.320 --> 0:34:13.960
<v Speaker 7>comic book and she's wearing these tiny pants and for

0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:16.440
<v Speaker 7>some reason falls.

0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:18.160
<v Speaker 2>She falls in love with the world.

0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:21.920
<v Speaker 5>She must fall, and then they have to have a

0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:28.240
<v Speaker 5>werewolf Dracula, which is really important.

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:29.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is the kind of.

0:34:29.880 --> 0:34:32.719
<v Speaker 5>Movie that I will like always watch if they're replaying

0:34:32.719 --> 0:34:33.239
<v Speaker 5>it on top.

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:34.520
<v Speaker 6>It's fun.

0:34:34.840 --> 0:34:38.600
<v Speaker 3>They're fun, they're corny, they're stylish.

0:34:39.040 --> 0:34:44.480
<v Speaker 5>They actually do have a very very recognizable esthetic.

0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:49.359
<v Speaker 1>They really do across the whole Underworld.

0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:51.920
<v Speaker 3>Franchise, which, honestly, I have to say, I think.

0:34:51.800 --> 0:34:55.000
<v Speaker 2>The Underworld franchise might be the one I think it's underrated.

0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:56.600
<v Speaker 2>I do think it's underrated.

0:34:56.680 --> 0:34:59.280
<v Speaker 5>I also think it might be the one that's longest running,

0:34:59.360 --> 0:35:02.239
<v Speaker 5>Like I think the Newest Underworld most might be the

0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:07.239
<v Speaker 5>most recent movie. Okay, so yeah, they did one in

0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:13.040
<v Speaker 5>twenty sixteen, so this trip was running for like thirteen years,

0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:17.520
<v Speaker 5>and there was a video game in two thousand and four.

0:35:17.880 --> 0:35:21.040
<v Speaker 5>They have had I mean, I think that they made

0:35:21.040 --> 0:35:24.960
<v Speaker 5>a short film that was animated. There have been comic

0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:29.360
<v Speaker 5>books and novels, and on the Wikipedia they say present

0:35:29.680 --> 0:35:31.880
<v Speaker 5>this is still going on. So I'm sure that Sony's

0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:34.399
<v Speaker 5>probably trying to find a way to make it.

0:35:34.960 --> 0:35:37.440
<v Speaker 6>This is where your be money should be living, Sony,

0:35:37.680 --> 0:35:41.600
<v Speaker 6>I'm saying, like, right back to Underworld and be like,

0:35:41.600 --> 0:35:43.120
<v Speaker 6>you know what, this is where we live. This is

0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 6>our house.

0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:47.000
<v Speaker 5>Okay, this is actually very interesting as well. I did

0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:49.840
<v Speaker 5>not know this, but Kevin I didn't know that Kevin

0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:54.360
<v Speaker 5>Grivau he creates, so he co created Underworld and he

0:35:54.520 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 5>also wrote that I and he was the creer of

0:35:58.200 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 5>the I Frankenstein graphic novel that famously turned into the

0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:06.560
<v Speaker 5>I Frankenstein movie with none other than Gotham.

0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:14.160
<v Speaker 3>Uh you know da Aaron Oh, he played two Face, Yeah.

0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:20.200
<v Speaker 5>Two Face, and he was in and that movie I

0:36:20.280 --> 0:36:25.720
<v Speaker 5>Frankenstein was meant to be in the same world. And

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:28.200
<v Speaker 5>then they ended up being like, no, we're not doing

0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:33.360
<v Speaker 5>the crossover, which I also thought was interesting also Aaron Eckart.

0:36:33.400 --> 0:36:33.640
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:36:33.680 --> 0:36:37.759
<v Speaker 5>Also interestingly, in twenty sixteen, Kate Beckenceale had said that

0:36:37.800 --> 0:36:41.640
<v Speaker 5>they'd been trying to do an Underworld and Blade crossover.

0:36:42.640 --> 0:36:47.440
<v Speaker 5>Shut mar That was before that was before Marvel got

0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:51.440
<v Speaker 5>the right Okay, so then when Marvel got the Blade,

0:36:51.840 --> 0:36:57.160
<v Speaker 5>they were like absolutely not getting Yeah, this is definitely.

0:36:57.800 --> 0:37:00.680
<v Speaker 6>Would do it, is all I'm saying. MCU Marvel Comics

0:37:00.680 --> 0:37:03.160
<v Speaker 6>would be like yes, exactly.

0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:05.840
<v Speaker 5>Also, apparently they were going to do a Resident Evil

0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:09.600
<v Speaker 5>crossover to so no, Underworld.

0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:12.239
<v Speaker 1>Is the better Resident Evil because they both have they

0:37:12.280 --> 0:37:15.280
<v Speaker 1>both have very similar runs, the esthetic is quite similar,

0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:18.000
<v Speaker 1>and of course they kind of overlapped for much of

0:37:18.000 --> 0:37:22.840
<v Speaker 1>the run. But Underworld to me, is vastly superior in

0:37:22.880 --> 0:37:26.960
<v Speaker 1>every way. Like, watch any of those Resident Evil movies

0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:29.600
<v Speaker 1>and tell me you understand what's happening at any given time.

0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:32.800
<v Speaker 1>At least the Underworld movies like there's a story in everything,

0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:33.640
<v Speaker 1>easy to follow.

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<v Speaker 3>These movies have made over five hundred million years.

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<v Speaker 8>Actually, they're huge hit.

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<v Speaker 5>Even though they were negatively reviewed, it doesn't matter that

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<v Speaker 5>almost Teflon like fans love it because people want to

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<v Speaker 5>see it. And recently Kate Beckinsale, who I do love.

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<v Speaker 5>She has a great Instagram presence. She is just a

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<v Speaker 5>truly fantastic Hollywood eccentric and she's a very kind person.

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<v Speaker 5>She recently said in the last few years, well, I

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<v Speaker 5>would potentially come back as Selene, and you know what,

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:06.400
<v Speaker 5>she's still got banging bod. She would be Selene. I

0:38:06.680 --> 0:38:08.919
<v Speaker 5>could see how doing it. She should have been Laura Croft.

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<v Speaker 5>Why they never cast her as Lara Croft is a scandal.

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, I think the wolf Man movies need they

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<v Speaker 5>need a shout out.

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<v Speaker 2>Should we do a best of the rest? Whatever?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so let's go quickly through our best of the rest.

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<v Speaker 1>Just what you know, what weird? Either a true werewolf

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<v Speaker 1>movie or werewolf adjacent movie is has your Heart?

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<v Speaker 6>Joelle? You are okay? So it is called The Wolf

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<v Speaker 6>of snow Hollow. It is drifted and starring and written

0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:44.040
<v Speaker 6>by Jim Cummings, not the voice actor, different guy. It

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<v Speaker 6>starts Ricky lynd Holm, who if you watched another period

0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:48.680
<v Speaker 6>It's one of my favorite Comedy Central shows. She gets

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<v Speaker 6>to do like a semi comedic but mostly serious role

0:38:51.440 --> 0:38:54.880
<v Speaker 6>as detective Julia Robson and Robert Forrester is here a

0:38:54.960 --> 0:38:59.240
<v Speaker 6>Sheriff Hadley. This film was so compelling. You never see

0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:02.359
<v Speaker 6>the wolf, which I found really interesting. So the whole

0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:06.120
<v Speaker 6>time you're left trying to figure out is this a

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<v Speaker 6>horror fantasy film or just a horror film? You're not sure.

0:39:10.840 --> 0:39:14.840
<v Speaker 6>You follow this police officer who is a recovering alcoholic.

0:39:14.880 --> 0:39:17.200
<v Speaker 6>His father is the sheriff who's ailing and should no

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<v Speaker 6>longer be in the position. He's divorced from his wife.

0:39:20.120 --> 0:39:22.319
<v Speaker 6>That's a very toxic relationship. They haven't figured out how

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<v Speaker 6>to co parent yet. His daughter's about to go to college.

0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:28.399
<v Speaker 6>He is falling apart at the scenes, like most wearble films.

0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:29.640
<v Speaker 6>I thing we haven't gotten into. But the thing I

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<v Speaker 6>noticed is watching all these movies A cap no good

0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:34.399
<v Speaker 6>cops in anywhere, well movie, they're all idiots, No one

0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:35.840
<v Speaker 6>suspect body.

0:39:35.880 --> 0:39:37.400
<v Speaker 3>Like, no one knows what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 5>They can't get foolish, they can't do anything.

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<v Speaker 6>Absolutely, So he's falling apart. His team is making fun

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<v Speaker 6>of him. Everyone's like, just give it to the feds.

0:39:44.840 --> 0:39:46.920
<v Speaker 6>He's like, no one trusts us as cops. Maybe we

0:39:46.920 --> 0:39:49.239
<v Speaker 6>should try to be cops. But as he's saying that,

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<v Speaker 6>he's also returned back to drinking alcohol, and it's having

0:39:52.840 --> 0:39:55.040
<v Speaker 6>fits of rage at anybody who's on the heat to

0:39:55.120 --> 0:39:57.680
<v Speaker 6>like cross him. And he's falling apart, And so the

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<v Speaker 6>whole time you're like, man, this guy should not be

0:39:59.800 --> 0:40:02.279
<v Speaker 6>doing this job. He's not good. He's not listening. A

0:40:02.320 --> 0:40:04.120
<v Speaker 6>woman is like, I'm pretty sure I ran into the guy.

0:40:04.160 --> 0:40:06.960
<v Speaker 6>They don't believe her. It's a hot mess right up

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<v Speaker 6>to the end, which I do not want to spoil,

0:40:08.719 --> 0:40:13.239
<v Speaker 6>but is so freaking satisfying. Guys. This movie really hit me, like,

0:40:13.280 --> 0:40:15.280
<v Speaker 6>I can't wait to tell more of my like true

0:40:15.280 --> 0:40:17.480
<v Speaker 6>centophile friends, Like if this is something you haven't popped in,

0:40:17.520 --> 0:40:20.520
<v Speaker 6>it's absolutely worth the watch. It's super fun, It's very funny.

0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:22.719
<v Speaker 6>If you come from a small town like I do,

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<v Speaker 6>you absolutely connect to it. So noirri very, like police

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<v Speaker 6>detective work, but in a way that feels very grounded

0:40:28.640 --> 0:40:31.320
<v Speaker 6>and real. We're not going to labs, we're not calling

0:40:31.360 --> 0:40:34.279
<v Speaker 6>in specialists. It's just a bunch of regular townsfolk trying

0:40:34.280 --> 0:40:37.959
<v Speaker 6>to figure out who's killing these women. It's so so,

0:40:37.960 --> 0:40:40.800
<v Speaker 6>so so good. I really enjoyed it, so yeah, definitely.

0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:42.319
<v Speaker 6>It came out in twenty twenty, so a lot of

0:40:42.320 --> 0:40:44.480
<v Speaker 6>people missed it, so the loof of snow hollow. I

0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:47.200
<v Speaker 6>think I rented it for like three bucks, so not

0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:48.399
<v Speaker 6>not difficult to find though.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love it.

0:40:50.520 --> 0:40:51.120
<v Speaker 6>What about You Real?

0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:51.880
<v Speaker 2>What about you?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm gonna go for English classic.

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<v Speaker 5>In the early zeros that and late nineties, there was

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<v Speaker 5>like a big boom and British filmmaking, led by movies

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<v Speaker 5>like Sexy Beast and Football Factory, and they kind of

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<v Speaker 5>focused on this Hitherfore unseen like working class experience in England.

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<v Speaker 9>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>So director called Neil Marshall, who you may know from

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<v Speaker 5>the Descent. This was three years before he made The Descents.

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<v Speaker 5>It was called Dog Soldiers and it is about like

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<v Speaker 5>British soldiers.

0:41:25.400 --> 0:41:29.919
<v Speaker 3>Who are sent into a they have to go on a.

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<v Speaker 5>Mission and then they end up getting hunted by werewolves

0:41:33.880 --> 0:41:35.920
<v Speaker 5>and they're kind of trapped in like the shack, being

0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:36.960
<v Speaker 5>hunted by were wolves.

0:41:37.160 --> 0:41:40.560
<v Speaker 3>It's very English. Sean pertwe is in it.

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<v Speaker 5>Legend there is the now sadly embattled rapper was in

0:41:48.239 --> 0:41:50.360
<v Speaker 5>it to who is his his life?

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:51.560
<v Speaker 3>Noel Clark.

0:41:51.640 --> 0:41:55.359
<v Speaker 5>He is like a very famous British rapper and like

0:41:55.400 --> 0:41:57.960
<v Speaker 5>he made these movies called Kidulthood. But he is now

0:41:58.160 --> 0:42:01.879
<v Speaker 5>he's at it. He's at it. We don't know's he's been.

0:42:01.960 --> 0:42:05.600
<v Speaker 5>He's been beleagued. H And yeah, this was This was

0:42:05.719 --> 0:42:09.959
<v Speaker 5>a very important movie when I was a kid, Like.

0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:11.960
<v Speaker 3>We would watch it a lot. It was.

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<v Speaker 5>It's in I think it's set in like North Wales,

0:42:15.000 --> 0:42:17.400
<v Speaker 5>and it's basically just a bunch of sas guys getting

0:42:17.440 --> 0:42:21.480
<v Speaker 5>like absolutely fucked up by wolf wolf. It's just really good,

0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:25.560
<v Speaker 5>really scary, really atmospheric. You can definitely see that Neil

0:42:25.560 --> 0:42:28.280
<v Speaker 5>Marshall is someone who's gonna make a masterpiece, and obviously

0:42:28.280 --> 0:42:30.239
<v Speaker 5>The Descent is that masterpiece.

0:42:31.480 --> 0:42:32.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I love this movie.

0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:36.360
<v Speaker 5>Also another movie with a ton like a whole cottage

0:42:36.400 --> 0:42:38.120
<v Speaker 5>industry of sequels.

0:42:38.200 --> 0:42:39.920
<v Speaker 3>They're still making sequels to dogs als.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, people have never even heard of it, Jason, what's

0:42:42.560 --> 0:42:43.919
<v Speaker 5>your what's your deep cup pick?

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<v Speaker 1>So you're best not technically a were wolf movement, it's

0:42:48.080 --> 0:42:50.840
<v Speaker 1>a movie that plays with werewolf tropes. It is the

0:42:51.080 --> 0:42:56.840
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and one French action film Brotherhood of the Wolf,

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<v Speaker 1>starring Vincent Cassell I believe is soon to be wife

0:43:02.239 --> 0:43:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Monica Blucci, directed by Christophe Gons What to say about this? So,

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<v Speaker 1>the plot of the movie is during the reign of

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<v Speaker 1>Louis the fifteenth, a potential werewolf is in the countryside,

0:43:18.239 --> 0:43:21.160
<v Speaker 1>just like tearing people apart. It's some mysterious beasts. Nobode

0:43:21.320 --> 0:43:24.200
<v Speaker 1>can stop it. It's killing everybody. Nobody knows what's going on.

0:43:24.880 --> 0:43:30.880
<v Speaker 1>The king has his royal naturalist, fran Sac and his

0:43:31.560 --> 0:43:35.640
<v Speaker 1>Iroquois companion because they had spent a bunch of years,

0:43:35.800 --> 0:43:38.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, traveling in the order in the French and

0:43:38.640 --> 0:43:43.160
<v Speaker 1>Indian wars and in North America come and investigate, and

0:43:44.040 --> 0:43:48.600
<v Speaker 1>there is a lot of like matrix inspired martial arts

0:43:48.680 --> 0:43:51.640
<v Speaker 1>action in this film in congress, a lot of incongruous

0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:56.319
<v Speaker 1>shit that happens in this movie. And they discover after

0:43:56.400 --> 0:44:01.840
<v Speaker 1>a while that the beast is being uncontrolled is part

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<v Speaker 1>of this secret society called the Brotherhood of the Wolf

0:44:05.160 --> 0:44:09.440
<v Speaker 1>that is working to like undermine the king by killing

0:44:09.440 --> 0:44:12.720
<v Speaker 1>his subjects and making people feel like, oh, maybe kings,

0:44:13.200 --> 0:44:14.640
<v Speaker 1>maybe the king doesn't know what he's.

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<v Speaker 3>Doing and he can't be Kings are bad.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe kings are bad. Towns people are also essential to

0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:21.839
<v Speaker 6>a wolf story. They kind of dumb townspeople who are

0:44:21.880 --> 0:44:23.160
<v Speaker 6>just panicked at all times.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, And when I tell you that this French film

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<v Speaker 1>set in the in the mid eighteenth century has some

0:44:32.920 --> 0:44:38.440
<v Speaker 1>of the best like martial arts inspired action of the

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<v Speaker 1>two thousands, what I'm telling you the truth, Like they're

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<v Speaker 1>just if you're not going to see this movie, and

0:44:45.520 --> 0:44:49.040
<v Speaker 1>I get it. It's a weird film, but good and

0:44:49.080 --> 0:44:52.759
<v Speaker 1>really entertaining. Just go Google right now, or go to

0:44:52.840 --> 0:44:58.359
<v Speaker 1>YouTube and google like Brotherhood of the Wolf fights and

0:44:58.400 --> 0:44:59.400
<v Speaker 1>the fight scenes.

0:44:59.120 --> 0:45:01.560
<v Speaker 2>Are They're fucking awesome. They're awesome.

0:45:02.280 --> 0:45:05.719
<v Speaker 1>And truly truly weird movie with a twist that's kind

0:45:05.719 --> 0:45:07.960
<v Speaker 1>of dumb, but I'm not gonna spoil it for you.

0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:10.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna spoil it for you, but a great

0:45:10.920 --> 0:45:16.120
<v Speaker 1>twist that is also very dumb. Brotherhood of the Wolf. Well, folks,

0:45:16.960 --> 0:45:21.160
<v Speaker 1>this has been the Wolf our Wolf conversation and this

0:45:21.200 --> 0:45:27.240
<v Speaker 1>has all been to set up. Yeah, Joel's frightening reaction

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<v Speaker 1>to Lee Wannad's latest film, a re imagining of Wolfman

0:45:33.320 --> 0:45:35.600
<v Speaker 1>that you have recently seen and you were going to

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<v Speaker 6>Under Duress, Okay, under in the Fires.

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<v Speaker 10>You you were smoky laic la to see the seek Air,

0:46:15.239 --> 0:46:17.840
<v Speaker 10>not sure if you're gonna be able to return home

0:46:18.200 --> 0:46:19.360
<v Speaker 10>after the screening.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh my god, I agree to see.

0:46:21.960 --> 0:46:26.440
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't worth it to see Lee Wento's latest masterpiece,

0:46:26.480 --> 0:46:27.120
<v Speaker 1>wolf Man.

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<v Speaker 6>It was worth it to go on. If you aren't

0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:32.640
<v Speaker 6>talk to some good friends about this movie, because I

0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:35.799
<v Speaker 6>had many. This is one of those films where in

0:46:35.840 --> 0:46:39.680
<v Speaker 6>the middle of it, I was like, why do we

0:46:39.760 --> 0:46:42.440
<v Speaker 6>make this and who is it for? And at the

0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:46.080
<v Speaker 6>end there's a twist which I saw I called in

0:46:46.120 --> 0:46:47.640
<v Speaker 6>like the first two minutes, I was like, okay, well

0:46:47.640 --> 0:46:51.640
<v Speaker 6>that's that's the conclusion. The gas were so loud and

0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:57.200
<v Speaker 6>so severe that I was like, oh, maybe this is

0:46:57.239 --> 0:46:59.840
<v Speaker 6>for people who like see horror, who are just like

0:46:59.880 --> 0:47:03.040
<v Speaker 6>A don't really care. I like a monster. A monster

0:47:03.120 --> 0:47:06.799
<v Speaker 6>is here and that's what and I like that and

0:47:06.840 --> 0:47:09.520
<v Speaker 6>that's fine. But I just want to start off there.

0:47:09.800 --> 0:47:15.080
<v Speaker 6>This is below a B movie because it seeks zero comedy.

0:47:15.360 --> 0:47:17.799
<v Speaker 6>There's not a whiff of comedy, and I don't think

0:47:17.880 --> 0:47:20.480
<v Speaker 6>where old movies work without a sense of comedy. I

0:47:20.480 --> 0:47:21.239
<v Speaker 6>don't think they need to be.

0:47:21.360 --> 0:47:24.160
<v Speaker 3>Because a sud situation.

0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:26.479
<v Speaker 6>It is absolutely absurd and you cannot wrap your mind

0:47:26.480 --> 0:47:29.640
<v Speaker 6>around it unless you're sort of laughing into it, I believe,

0:47:29.880 --> 0:47:33.040
<v Speaker 6>And so listen. This film starts off with a twenty

0:47:33.040 --> 0:47:40.160
<v Speaker 6>minute flashback, which, just like Drayman, annoyingly, where your main

0:47:40.239 --> 0:47:43.360
<v Speaker 6>character is a kid. He's got a dad who's very angry.

0:47:43.440 --> 0:47:45.799
<v Speaker 6>Why is he angry? You're not sure, but he's like,

0:47:46.239 --> 0:47:48.279
<v Speaker 6>literally to his like twelve year old boy is like,

0:47:48.640 --> 0:47:50.279
<v Speaker 6>dying is the easiest thing you could do, could happen

0:47:50.320 --> 0:47:52.239
<v Speaker 6>at any time, and you be a lot to It's

0:47:52.320 --> 0:47:54.919
<v Speaker 6>like hype your masculine. Like he's got like an army

0:47:54.920 --> 0:47:57.040
<v Speaker 6>bunker under their house, and he talks to a guy.

0:47:57.080 --> 0:47:59.080
<v Speaker 6>He's like, I saw this creature in the woods. He's

0:47:59.080 --> 0:48:01.680
<v Speaker 6>either we got to go hunt. Then you flash forward

0:48:01.760 --> 0:48:05.440
<v Speaker 6>thirty years. You're in New York City. Your lead character

0:48:05.480 --> 0:48:08.200
<v Speaker 6>is now with his child, his daughter. She's about his

0:48:08.320 --> 0:48:12.160
<v Speaker 6>age when he went through this thirteen and she's got

0:48:12.239 --> 0:48:15.040
<v Speaker 6>like the TWU two and the fairy wings, and he's

0:48:15.440 --> 0:48:19.000
<v Speaker 6>carrying a giant stuffed animal for her, and she hops

0:48:19.080 --> 0:48:21.480
<v Speaker 6>up on like a plant box and runs into an

0:48:21.840 --> 0:48:24.440
<v Speaker 6>unhoused person who sort of yells at her, and her

0:48:24.440 --> 0:48:26.640
<v Speaker 6>father freaks out, like his father freaked out. And so, okay,

0:48:26.640 --> 0:48:30.000
<v Speaker 6>now you get the premise. We're looking back. Father relationships

0:48:30.080 --> 0:48:33.359
<v Speaker 6>is all very within the cannon. I wish I could

0:48:33.360 --> 0:48:35.239
<v Speaker 6>tell you anything that happens at well, I'll tell you

0:48:35.320 --> 0:48:38.200
<v Speaker 6>one thing. His father's declared dead. They haven't seen him

0:48:38.200 --> 0:48:39.560
<v Speaker 6>for a long time. He hasn't seen his dad in

0:48:39.600 --> 0:48:41.560
<v Speaker 6>a long time. He's declared dead. They have to go

0:48:41.719 --> 0:48:45.960
<v Speaker 6>back to Oklahoma, Iowa, somewhere way out west in the

0:48:46.000 --> 0:48:49.280
<v Speaker 6>middle of nowhere to get his father's stuff. So the family.

0:48:49.600 --> 0:48:51.560
<v Speaker 6>His wife is like, she doesn't want to go. I

0:48:51.560 --> 0:48:53.960
<v Speaker 6>guess she's a journalist and she's kind of busy. Okay,

0:48:54.000 --> 0:48:56.680
<v Speaker 6>so she's, well, let's go be a family.

0:48:56.760 --> 0:49:01.160
<v Speaker 5>Leah Ghana of Ozong fame is not particular well used

0:49:01.160 --> 0:49:02.600
<v Speaker 5>in the movie, does not have a law.

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<v Speaker 1>This is this is tremendously This is disappointing because, as

0:49:08.000 --> 0:49:11.040
<v Speaker 1>we've been talking about on this program, we were, you know,

0:49:11.200 --> 0:49:12.520
<v Speaker 1>The Invisible Man was.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe the best horror film I've seen in the past decade,

0:49:19.640 --> 0:49:22.600
<v Speaker 6>and that's not even close like The Invisible Man shook me.

0:49:23.120 --> 0:49:26.839
<v Speaker 1>What I'm getting from your reaction is it feels to

0:49:26.920 --> 0:49:30.839
<v Speaker 1>me like The Invisible Man the kind of more updated

0:49:31.000 --> 0:49:36.640
<v Speaker 1>context of what it would mean to be an Invisible Man,

0:49:36.800 --> 0:49:39.200
<v Speaker 1>and you know, man is the important is really one

0:49:39.200 --> 0:49:42.399
<v Speaker 1>of the most important parts of that title, and what

0:49:42.440 --> 0:49:46.160
<v Speaker 1>it would mean to use those powers. I think there

0:49:46.200 --> 0:49:48.560
<v Speaker 1>was kind of like a social context to root that

0:49:48.680 --> 0:49:52.440
<v Speaker 1>reimagining to It feels like with Wolfman, they tried to

0:49:53.160 --> 0:49:57.680
<v Speaker 1>find something equally as smart and cutting and just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of overcooked it without leaning in too.

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<v Speaker 6>Here's what I've heard happened from the grape vine. Now,

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<v Speaker 6>a friend who went to the junk and therefore got

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<v Speaker 6>The film's production notes said that initially the creators were

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<v Speaker 6>inspired by degenerative diseases and that was what they were

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<v Speaker 6>going to lean into. The main character's mom was supposed

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<v Speaker 6>to have about with als. That's not in the film

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<v Speaker 6>at all, So it seems like they had this really

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<v Speaker 6>they felt they had a strong idea, and people either

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<v Speaker 6>reacted poorly or the studio wanted to walk it back,

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<v Speaker 6>and then the film never quite found its footing. Nothing

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<v Speaker 6>happens once they get bat Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Culta called it half a movie. They said that what

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<v Speaker 5>it feels like you there's something missing.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I'm not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 5>I I love and trust Lee Vinyl, especially after Invisible Man,

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<v Speaker 5>but I have to say, any kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 5>equating a devastating kind of disability, your illness with monstrosity,

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<v Speaker 5>has to be done very very carefully. So I probably

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<v Speaker 5>understand why that was not necessarily that they went, especially

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<v Speaker 5>when we've had quite a few incredible Alzheimer's horror movies

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<v Speaker 5>of the last few years about like how scary it

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<v Speaker 5>can be to kind of lose a connection with your

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<v Speaker 5>loved one.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, that that's a shame.

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<v Speaker 5>I think you know, will it still make money. We'll

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<v Speaker 5>find out after this weekend.

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<v Speaker 6>It'll be interesting to see. I think the Wolfman design

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<v Speaker 6>was not great. Rosie had mentioned the other day that

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<v Speaker 6>they premiered that at the Warner Brothers Fripe that's out

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<v Speaker 6>here in La It lasted a day. People were clowning

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<v Speaker 6>it so hard. It definitely does not It feels like

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<v Speaker 6>they were trying to go for an extreme realism, which

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<v Speaker 6>again doesn't work. This is a fantasy. Lean into it

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<v Speaker 6>and make him a freaking wolf. Also say from a

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<v Speaker 6>horror perspective, which I thought that Invisible Man got so right,

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<v Speaker 6>like the creepiness, the moment that was built so well,

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<v Speaker 6>and they're completely gone here. There's just no They try

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<v Speaker 6>to set up for jump scares, but you're not terrified

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<v Speaker 6>at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Too dark to really see what the jump scared.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they need to make it dark to cover

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<v Speaker 2>up that.

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<v Speaker 3>The design.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, my friend Ayah, who's just such a she's a

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<v Speaker 5>really fantastic artist, Aya Francisco. You can follow her on Instagram,

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<v Speaker 5>and uh, she went to see it and with big

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<v Speaker 5>horror fans, and she said she literally gave it one star.

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<v Speaker 5>She was like, it was so dark once they got

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<v Speaker 5>to the forest, she was like, I could not tell

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<v Speaker 5>what was going on.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know if I was meant to be getting

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<v Speaker 3>jump scared. I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 5>She was like, I literally missed a jump scare because

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<v Speaker 5>it was so dark.

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<v Speaker 6>Once they got I will see you missed nothing because literally,

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<v Speaker 6>character story wise, nothing happens. They're literally just running around

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<v Speaker 6>from this wolf back and forth, back and forth, back

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<v Speaker 6>and forth until the end, which is anti clomatic and silly. Uh,

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<v Speaker 6>this film struggles.

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<v Speaker 5>There is a character in this that the daughter she

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<v Speaker 5>is called Ginger played by Matilda Firth, which I love

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<v Speaker 5>a good Ginger Snap's reference, Like, come on.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, that's great.

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<v Speaker 5>Also, I did hear there's a sore reference in there

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<v Speaker 5>that the Saw fans were loving, So I will probably

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<v Speaker 5>end up watching it for that. But yeah, yeah, shout

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<v Speaker 5>out to Bumhouse Veroly, I must see.

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<v Speaker 6>I would not. I would rather rewatch Frankenstein Meets the Wolfman,

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<v Speaker 6>which I found incredibly delightful. Yes, and see this again.

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<v Speaker 6>I would rather watch the twenty ten Wolfman over this,

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<v Speaker 6>which is saying something that that movie really irks me.

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<v Speaker 6>But I.

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<v Speaker 3>Movie, it's so bad, it's just what are we?

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<v Speaker 6>Emily blink again, like our girl from Julia. Julia. In

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<v Speaker 6>this film, You're like, oh, this is an actress. She

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<v Speaker 6>is doing everything she can to build an arc out

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<v Speaker 6>of nothing. She's selling me what. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 6>be interested in this movie. She's great. Emily does the

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<v Speaker 6>same thing in the old one. But I do think

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<v Speaker 6>that I would rather see people try and swing for

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<v Speaker 6>the fences like this and miss than to do a

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<v Speaker 6>redundant thing like they really tried to modernize this like

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<v Speaker 6>Epic War, and I think that their approach was it

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<v Speaker 6>was just a miss. So I don't know Shade till

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<v Speaker 6>I think great. Looking forward to your next film, uh Universal,

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<v Speaker 6>I still believe in these monsters. I know you can

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<v Speaker 6>kind of revive them minutes.

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<v Speaker 11>You can do it, you you we believe in It's

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<v Speaker 11>gonna be something totally random and unexpected, like there was

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<v Speaker 11>when the After the Invisible Man, there were all these

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<v Speaker 11>cool movies that got picked up that kind of died

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<v Speaker 11>during pandemic times, including The Kring Casama.

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<v Speaker 5>I believe it was going to be like a Western

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<v Speaker 5>Dracula movie set in the future, and I'm like, please

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<v Speaker 5>make that movie, guys, like that's what we need.

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<v Speaker 1>Well in the next episode of x ray Vision. This Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>We're concluding our look at Doing Prophecy with the Master

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<v Speaker 1>of the Prophecy himself, Aboo, to take you through all

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<v Speaker 1>the lore and all the ins and outs of the

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<v Speaker 1>of the unique Season one of Doing Prophecy on Maxiden.

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<v Speaker 1>On Saturday, we'll take a look at the week's biggest headlines.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it for this episode, as.

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<v Speaker 6>Sing Bye Bye.

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<v Speaker 1>X ray Vision is hosted by Jason Concepcion and Rosie

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<v Speaker 1>Knight and is a production of iHeart Podcasts.

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<v Speaker 5>Our executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Kaufman.

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<v Speaker 2>Our supervising producer is Abu Zafar.

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<v Speaker 5>Our producers are Common Laurent Dean Jonathan and Faye wag.

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<v Speaker 1>Our theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme

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<v Speaker 1>songs by Aaron Kaufman.

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<v Speaker 5>Special thanks to Soul Rubin, Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman and

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