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Speaker 1: On this edition of The Booth Review. The Commanders rolled

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Speaker 1: at Cleveland yesterday.

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Speaker 2: And we're talking about a dominating defensive performance.

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Speaker 1: And I wonder are we good? Like real good? Oh?

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Speaker 2: And I'm also gonna give out Big Fletch's heavyweight championship belt.

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Speaker 1: It's all next on the Booth Review. Welcome into another

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Speaker 1: Victorious Booth Review podcast. I'm Bram Weinstein with the man

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Speaker 1: who was Frankie Luvu before Frankie Luvu was Franky Lou

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Speaker 1: London Fletcher. What a game yesterday, man, what a game? Man.

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Speaker 3: I think Frankie's my spirit animal.

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Speaker 1: Everybody.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, I want to be here when I come

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Speaker 2: back in a reincardation.

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Speaker 1: I want to see a lot of four jerseys in

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Speaker 1: the stands next time. Who brings the energy more than

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Speaker 1: that guy these days?

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Speaker 2: Nobody, nobody, And you know he keeps playing like that,

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Speaker 2: you'll definitely see his his jersey fill in the stadium.

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Speaker 3: But I'll stand a job by everybody it was.

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Speaker 1: I will get into the defense. I actually want to

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Speaker 1: start with them first, and then we'll get into the

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Speaker 1: offense and Jayden's day and all the point that they're

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Speaker 1: putting up on what was a very good defense yesterday.

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Speaker 1: But I want to start with what happened after the

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Speaker 1: game with you, because I thought what Dan Quinn and

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Speaker 1: the team did in your return. You've been obviously been

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Speaker 1: away for a few weeks dealing with a family matter,

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Speaker 1: and I watched him give you a game ball, which

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Speaker 1: I thought was really touching.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so, you know, just just dealing with the

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Speaker 2: depth of my wife who she passed away on September seventeenth,

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Speaker 2: and and it's been rough. It's been you know, the

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Speaker 2: last few weeks have been rough as you can imagine,

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Speaker 2: for my children, myself, you know, my family in general.

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Speaker 2: But the support that we've received from our community back

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Speaker 2: in Charlotte, from the team, Coach Quinn, he reached out

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Speaker 2: to me, you know, the week that she passed, and

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Speaker 2: being my first game back. Didn't expect anything, but when

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Speaker 2: we when I we interviewed coach Quinn after every home

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Speaker 2: game or after every game, and as we're getting set

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Speaker 2: to interview him, he he comes to me, he gives

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Speaker 2: me the game ball, and it gives me a game ball,

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Speaker 2: and it was just, you know, something that he wanted

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Speaker 2: just like man, this is you know London. We appreciate

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Speaker 2: everything you've done, what I mean to this organization. You

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Speaker 2: know what I've done for this organization. So I just

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Speaker 2: with with with him. He just gets it, you know,

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Speaker 2: just on a I didn't play for him. I didn't

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Speaker 2: you know, had this great relationship with him prior to

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Speaker 3: But just man, he just he just gets it.

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Speaker 2: And you know that goes a long way when he's

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he feels the same way and does that

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Speaker 3: So it meant a.

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Speaker 1: Lot to me. Yeah, you know, I'll tell you because

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Speaker 1: like before the Arizona game, you'd missed the Cincinnati game,

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Speaker 1: tell me the story, what's happening. So he's he's preached this,

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Speaker 1: women have relationships with people right here. Yeah, and he's

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Speaker 1: There's a chemistry that's going on here. And a lot

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Speaker 1: of people say football's family. In this case, it feels

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely, And I was. I shared this with

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Speaker 2: I shared this with you guys, you as well and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, watched the watch.

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Speaker 2: The Jizz game and and my wife, she was still

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Speaker 2: The repass kind of started around four o'clock and I

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Speaker 2: I'm watching the guys play and you know, obviously having

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Speaker 1: I got to tell you too, like we missed you

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Speaker 1: because you missed the joy ride.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I mean this is this is and I.

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Speaker 1: Mean I think speak for a lot of people because

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Speaker 1: part of its disbelief watching them because they're it's so good, yes,

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Speaker 2: So watching it on television has been one thing like

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Speaker 2: Think you and I text after the Monday night game

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Speaker 3: And the energy and excitement.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't wait to get back to around it, to

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Speaker 1: People are into it. I mean, yes, you know, like

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Speaker 1: And that's part of this that we're all kind of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the big thing is you don't you

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Speaker 3: I just told him.

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Speaker 2: I was like, dude, you have been balling like I mean,

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Speaker 1: Miles Garrett did not make the statuet. I know it's

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Speaker 1: I saw someone treat this out, so I'm just gonna

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Speaker 3: He can ruin your day. That's how disruptive.

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Speaker 2: That's what you call complimentary football when one aspect of

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Speaker 3: The interception that Jaden threw in the Brands.

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Speaker 2: I think they got clean on a three and now get.

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Speaker 3: So it was just a matter of kind of weather

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Speaker 1: And we were trying at corners that they faced.

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Speaker 2: And not only that, you we were operating in a

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Speaker 2: And the fact that you mentioned that the offense wasn't

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Speaker 3: That's a testament to this team.

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Speaker 2: Right, And we got the ball back like a minute

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Speaker 2: We called it a nice field.

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Speaker 3: This shot deep.

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Speaker 2: and for Diami to be, you know, two steps in

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Speaker 3: Man. He couldn't have handled that ball off better. Uh,

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Speaker 1: I want to go I'll go back to the offens

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Speaker 1: I actually think they were the story honestly yesterday. I

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Speaker 1: And then in the second half, it's twenty four to three.

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Speaker 2: Know, I all to get all the plays and sequences

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Speaker 3: We were up twenty four to three.

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Speaker 1: I find them to be semi uncreative to be fair.

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Speaker 1: They were totally disengaged, like the body like, you can

437
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Speaker 1: just tell that they don't have a belief in what

438
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 1: they're doing on that side of the ball right now.

439
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,880
Speaker 1: So I kind of knew, and I think you knew

440
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,679
Speaker 1: too if they had struggle, if they struggled early, you

441
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,119
Speaker 1: could feel it that it was wearing on them and

442
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 1: it was going to open the door for a type

443
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:14,960
Speaker 1: of performances the defense had.

444
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:16,159
Speaker 3: Well just think about that.

445
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,119
Speaker 2: Contrast that with our guys on the flip side in

446
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,920
Speaker 2: terms of the running game and how our receivers are

447
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:27,439
Speaker 2: blocking downfield and making sure they're they're doing things to

448
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 2: help in the run game. Coach Quinn and and Cliff,

449
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,159
Speaker 2: they talk a lot about receivers and guys playing without

450
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 2: the football in the hand, whether it's a bliss pick

451
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 2: up by running back or downfield blocking by a tight

452
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,880
Speaker 2: end or receiver. Things like that, those things, making those

453
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 2: things matter, that can be the difference in picking up

454
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 2: a first down, scoring a touchdown. Luke McCaffrey on on

455
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:57,479
Speaker 2: b Rob's first touchdown run. McCaffrey has a great block

456
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,879
Speaker 2: in the run game if b Rob broke it tackle,

457
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 2: but because Luke also had a great block, that allow

458
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 2: him to get into the end zone without having to

459
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,439
Speaker 2: you know, avoid another defender or break another tackle.

460
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,640
Speaker 3: So all those things matter. And if you don't.

461
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 2: Demand that in practice, you don't demand it as a

462
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 2: coaching staff, which weird which they are demanding it. It

463
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 2: buys you, and it costs you games, and it costs

464
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 2: you uh cost you successful plays.

465
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about Frankie Luv for a minute.

466
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Speaker 3: Man, Let's do it. So let's talk about Frankie.

467
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 1: So I remember when whenever you know this team signs anybody,

468
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 1: I always call the people from the other teams. Just

469
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,200
Speaker 1: you tell me about the player. And this was one.

470
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,120
Speaker 1: I'll never forget this. I talked to three different people

471
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 1: who cover the Panthers, and I talked about Chin and Luvu,

472
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 1: and all of them said the same things. About all

473
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Speaker 1: three of them. They said, with Jeremy Chin, we understand

474
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 1: why they didn't resign him. He's just been injured a lot,

475
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 1: and that's that's all it is. They're like, we love him,

476
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 1: it's just he's been injured a lot, So we get it.

477
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,400
Speaker 1: All of the other ones so and I said Frankie Louvo,

478
00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 1: they all said the same thing. We have no idea

479
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 1: why they didn't want to bring him back, because he

480
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,439
Speaker 1: was a heartbeat of the team. He brings the energy

481
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 1: that you're seeing here. They didn't understand it, and they said,

482
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 1: we don't know what they don't want in him, and

483
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 1: their GM's a former linebacker. It's unbelievable that they wouldn't

484
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: do it. He has been everything that they said he

485
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: was going to be. He's become a heartbeat of the team. Obviously,

486
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 1: go look at these locker room scenes that you're seeing

487
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 1: with him, and on the field. I don't know how

488
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 1: he plays the way he does down in every single down.

489
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 1: It's like his hair's on fire and he's a problem.

490
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Speaker 2: So to even piggyback on what you just said, your

491
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 2: former my former teammate and the guy who I replaced

492
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 2: in the booth, Diagelo Hall. He's on the Panthers' coaching staff.

493
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 2: I've talked to Diagelo several times. Ran into Himdonna Charltte,

494
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 2: we both lived down there, and he was like, Fletch,

495
00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:01,719
Speaker 2: this is unsolicited. Fletch, you are going to love Frankie Louvill.

496
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 2: That's verbatim what he said. You are going to love him,

497
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 2: and bye guy. I love the way Frankie plays plays

498
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 2: the game with football. He's just he's all about it.

499
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 2: The physicality, plays with the intensity, the passion. Like you

500
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 2: can tell, he just loves playing football, and I just

501
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 2: appreciate him. I'm glad that the Carolina Panthers opted not

502
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 2: to resign him for whatever reason that may be.

503
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Speaker 3: But we're so happy to have him.

504
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think our corners got tested as much

505
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,679
Speaker 1: in this game that I and I guess I'm not

506
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 1: surprised by that because Deshaun Watson came in is the

507
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: most pressured quarterback, the most sacked quarterback. Some of that

508
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,959
Speaker 1: is their offensive line was really beat up, even though

509
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: it was a little healthier yesterday than it has been.

510
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 1: Jeddrick Wills had returned, but they're still missing people why it.

511
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,080
Speaker 1: Teller is out, Jack Conklins out, so they're missing a

512
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 1: lot of people. So they've been really beat up there.

513
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 1: They're also the communications off on their line. I think

514
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: this is why people are bringing so much pressure. And

515
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 1: Watson frankly is not seeing the field very well. He's

516
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: holding onto the ball way way, way too long. There

517
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: was one play where he scrambled. It was a second

518
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: and longer, third and long. I don't remember which one

519
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: it was. He scrambled out. He's five yards past the

520
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. Mike saberstill hits him, okay, and he

521
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: pumps like he's going to throw the ball, and Samber

522
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: still doesn't fall for it. He knocks him out of bounce.

523
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: He was three yards in bounds when he took the hit.

524
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 1: And then Watson got up and was mad like he

525
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: shouldn't have hit him this way. And I looked at

526
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: you and I went, I don't think he knows where

527
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 1: he is on the field, Like he's five yards past

528
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmer. So he can't throw the ball

529
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: and he's not even remotely close to the side at all.

530
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,199
Speaker 1: So why does he think he's not going to get I.

531
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 2: Think that was a third down play. Yeah, I don't.

532
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 2: It's almost like he he felt like he was at

533
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 2: a practice or you have so many protections as a

534
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 2: quarterback that no, he's not gonna hit me. I'll say this.

535
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 2: You mentioned the corners. I thought Benjamin Saint Juice played outstanding.

536
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 3: He did. He played outstanding. There was they he was.

537
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 2: He shadowed Amari Cooper in that ball game. Cooper had

538
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 2: a couple of catches. It was mainly when we were

539
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 2: playing his own defense where you know, it wasn't where

540
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 2: Juice was man a man locked up on him. But

541
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 2: there were some times where he was blanking in him me.

542
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 2: He was great in coverage. They tried to get him

543
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 2: with a kind of a post corner route. Saint Jukes

544
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 2: did a great job of playing proper leverage, staying on

545
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 2: the outside of the outside shoulder of Amari Cooper, and

546
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 2: when he tried to come back to the corner route,

547
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 2: he was right there. Disrupted the timing of the route

548
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 2: big incompletion because if he doesn't stay with the correct leverage,

549
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 2: that's going to be a completion with the probably about

550
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 2: a twenty twenty five yard completion. But I thought he

551
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 2: was outstanding in coverage yesterday. I thought egg bnogny he

552
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 2: had a couple couple of nice plays. But to your point,

553
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 2: though Cleveland's offense, I probably can rewatch that game ten

554
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 2: times and steal not understand what they would try to accomplish.

555
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: I don't either, especially in the early downs, especially when

556
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: you juxtaposed it against what Washington's doing. Where I think

557
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: where Cliff deserves a lot of credit is they're very

558
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: creative on first down and if they can get Jayden

559
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: in company into the second and five, second and six

560
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 1: is this is where the world's their oyster. They open

561
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: up the playbook because if it's not there, Jayden can

562
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 1: always run, always can He can always get at least

563
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 1: a few yards and get him in a third and short,

564
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: if not get a first down on his own. It's

565
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:34,959
Speaker 1: when they get in the second and lungs and what

566
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: Cleveland is doing. I watch them, and I go the

567
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: first play of the game. They actually surprised me, and

568
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 1: they ran like kind of a They ran a rollout,

569
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: a designed rollout, got the ball out of his hands,

570
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: got a first down. They never did it again. Every

571
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 1: play is this either short dump off or run up

572
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 1: the middle. That's their problem. I mean they I walked

573
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: in going. They are very uncreative. This whole game is

574
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 1: on first down. Washington can get themselves in these second

575
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 1: and five, second and six is they can limit that

576
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: pass rush from Cleveland. And if Cleveland is true to

577
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: form and just runs these up the middle runs, it

578
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: gets them in second eighty, second to nine. Well guess

579
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: what because they can't protect right now, their lines beat up,

580
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: Watson holds onto the ball too long. You could have

581
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 1: a day like this and they did. Ye.

582
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 2: It was it was the fact that they didn't even

583
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 2: run the type of runs that had been hurting our

584
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 2: defense prior to their brows game the second half.

585
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 3: Yes, late in the second half.

586
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 2: It wasn't like fourth quarter where they finally ran some

587
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 2: off tackle perimeter type runs where they would called the

588
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,439
Speaker 2: pinning pool where you pull an office in lineman and

589
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 2: that run has been a run that has given us problems.

590
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 2: You know, for the majority of the season, the Browns

591
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 2: didn't run those type of run plays until the fourth quarter.

592
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, which thank you, loaded, like sarcastically goes. They were

593
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: setting that up all game. Yeah, yeah, twenty four to three,

594
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: you know, like waiting for it. I mean it's funny

595
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: like last week too, even at Arizona. I knew you

596
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: weren't there. But I think they outthought themselves against Washington,

597
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: Like they had showed that they were going to bring

598
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: pressures and they dropped eight I don't know how many

599
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: times forty two points later. Yeah, they didn't cross them up.

600
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: They didn't play the form. Cleveland never went to the

601
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: things that worked. They stayed true to exactly what they've done,

602
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: which hadn't worked up to that point. Thank you, yeah, really,

603
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: thank thank you. Hun And I think talk about this though.

604
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 2: Joe Whitt junior, he's been talking about the defense not

605
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 2: being that far off from playing to the style of

606
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 2: play where he's like the physicality, but also being playing

607
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 2: a type of football that he thinks they can play.

608
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 2: Yesterday now they clean the Browns had a little success

609
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 2: on some runs late in the game. I'm not you know, yeah,

610
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 2: you would love to hold them to a hundred yards,

611
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 2: but I think with the exception of not getting the

612
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,479
Speaker 2: interception or two, that's the way he wants his defense

613
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 2: to play.

614
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, they still haven't got an interception at five games.

615
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: That's right yet for twelve on third down and ended

616
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: up being one for thirteen, but the one was late

617
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: in the game when over twelve when it mattered on

618
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: third down. I thought John Allen had his best game.

619
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: He was active in the middle of the line, and

620
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: the edges have gotten better two weeks in a row now.

621
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: Duran's Armstrong. It's been a problem for people. I think

622
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: he was the recipient of some help with Jack Conklin out.

623
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: Dwan Jones has been injured. He's a big guy, doesn't

624
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: move that fast. You can get around him fast. Armstrong

625
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: took advantage of him. And I've been seeing this for

626
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: the last two weeks too. And I was glad to

627
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: see Dante Fowler get a sack because he was injured

628
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: at the late late in camp, it was kind of limited.

629
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: I think it went under the radar that he was

630
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: a little limited. He's getting his feetback under him too.

631
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: In the last couple of weeks. He's been very close

632
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: to making plays and had one yesterday as well.

633
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 2: He did he was I thought he was a he

634
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: flashed man. He flashed a lot. You mentioned John Allen,

635
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 2: he was active. What impressed me more so than the

636
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 2: pass rush the way he played to Ron just getting

637
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 2: off blocks to fiend blocks, you know, getting greeted.

638
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: He needs some tackles on the edge and run to

639
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: the edge, which tells you how engaged he Yeah, engage.

640
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 2: I thought that the last two weeks, our defensive line

641
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: in general has really imposed their will on the on

642
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 2: the teams they both They faced the Cardinals and the

643
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 2: Browns yesterday, and.

644
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 3: That's how it should be.

645
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 2: Your offensive line and your defensive line needs to set

646
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 2: the tone and be the life lifeblood of your football team.

647
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 2: The offensive line has been They've been playing well all

648
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 2: season long. The last two weeks, the defensive line has

649
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 2: really imposed their will and set the tone for the

650
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 2: way and dictated the terms of the agreement, as I

651
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 2: like to say, of how how the game is gonna

652
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Speaker 2: be played, and it impacted Cleveland in a in a

653
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 2: mighty way.

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Speaker 1: I'll give one more name too, because I think he

655
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: deserves some credit here as Fadarian mathis who not had

656
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: a ton of big plays since he's been here. Yesterday,

657
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: on the one where he deflected the ball, go rewatch

658
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: this He ran this guy over and threw him backwards

659
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: like three or four yards before he got his hands

660
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: up and made the play. He's coming on. You could

661
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: feel that he's buying into it, and I think it's

662
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,959
Speaker 1: these moments him. No offense to them, but where they

663
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: stand on the roster, they are backups right on the

664
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Speaker 1: team him. Here's Diami waiting for moments gets it comes through.

665
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: Jeremy McNichols has scored three touchdowns in two weeks. He

666
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: had one in his career and it happened three weeks ago.

667
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: And this guy is making plays on special teams. He

668
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: had that crazy block against Cincinnati. They're feeding the ball,

669
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: he's running hard, the buying across the board. If numbers

670
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Speaker 1: forty five through fifty three are playing this way on

671
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: behalf of the team, you know you have something going here.

672
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 2: You got something great going here, and I'll touch There's

673
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 2: two points I want to make when you say that.

674
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Speaker 3: First and foremost, that's the coaches in terms of what

675
00:32:58,760 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 3: the standard that they have.

676
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 2: A lot of people talk about having standards and setting

677
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 2: standards and all that, but do you hold people accountable

678
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: and are you constantly emphasizing the standards that you have

679
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 2: you mentioned for Darick Mathis going into this training camp,

680
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 2: he was like, is he gonna make the team.

681
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

682
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 2: He showed up in training camp, played played some good football,

683
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 2: and I think the last few weeks like they've they've

684
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 2: litten the fire underneath him man to where he's playing

685
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 2: passionate football, making plays, having fun. You're seeing his personality,

686
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 2: You're seeing him out there kind of having a having

687
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 2: a great time. You mentioned the other guys, mc Nichols,

688
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 2: the Ivy Brown, all those guys are when their numbers call,

689
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 2: they're producing.

690
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 3: That doesn't just happen on game day.

691
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 2: It happens Monday, in film meeting, and in the film

692
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 2: room Wednesday, and practice Thursday, and practice Friday, practice especial,

693
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 2: the team meanings, to walk throughs, all those types of things.

694
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 2: Those things that we see on Sunday or a game

695
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,959
Speaker 2: day are bride product of what happens throughout the week.

696
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 2: Another moment after the game against the Cardinals and coach

697
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 2: Quinn gave Cliff Kingsbury that game ball.

698
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Speaker 1: This is what I took from that.

699
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Speaker 2: I've had the great fortune of being on two Super

700
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 2: Bowl teams one and one and lost, and then some

701
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 2: other teams that were really really close and had some

702
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 2: you know, we've had some nice runs. Those teams the

703
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 2: best teams that I've been a part of. When we

704
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 2: talk about family and brotherhood and camaraderie and togetherness, I

705
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 2: saw that in that in that moment when he gave

706
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 2: that game ball to Cliff Kingsbury and the way the teams,

707
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 2: the teams responded to the players, the coaches responded, and

708
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 2: then also when Cliff said, what are you saying and

709
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: how the guys responded that to words, and I'm looking like, man,

710
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 2: they got some special.

711
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 3: They have some special.

712
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 2: I don't know it'll be a Super Bowl issue, but

713
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm looking at like what they have that special?

714
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you said you mentioned it like

715
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: so for the last couple of weeks, which goes back

716
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,919
Speaker 1: to how real could this be? Because it's just it's

717
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: almost too good and it doesn't it's not logical because

718
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: it's unprecedented. And I'm going to read more in a

719
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: second stats that You're like, what in the world like

720
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: that it's happening this fast. I'm not kidding when I

721
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: say who is playing better than them in the NFL

722
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: right now? Name the team, like maybe Minnesota because they're undefeated,

723
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: right but name the team in the NFC that you

724
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: think is actually playing better than them right now. I

725
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: don't think if you're being honest about it and you

726
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: watch them play, I don't think you do that this year.

727
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: If I'm being blunt, I was hoping for a competitive

728
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: team because it's all new, that they instill this culture

729
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: that they're talking about, that Jaden looks the part and

730
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: improves as the season goes along and they play meaningful

731
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 1: games in December, and if they end up in the playoffs, great,

732
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: that'd be awesome. To not have a different expectations set

733
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: off of what they've done, specifically off for the last

734
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: few weeks, I think would be suspended disbelief. And at

735
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 1: this point, I know it's really early, but I'm not

736
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 1: sure what they can do this year. And I think

737
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: that's a good thing.

738
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Speaker 2: That that is a great thing, And you know, I

739
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 2: think you would it would be fair to say, like

740
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 2: you mentioned, maybe a little bit ahead of schedule to

741
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 2: the maybe maybe, and it might not even be.

742
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 1: This is a this is a movie, and they ended

743
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: up in this is a movie if it ends up

744
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: in it, and.

745
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 2: That may only be to the to the outside world

746
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 2: or to the guys who even though we're in the building,

747
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 2: we're not in the meetings room with them, and those

748
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 2: guys on the practice field and they they they have it.

749
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 2: They may feel like, hey, we expected to play this way.

750
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:05,439
Speaker 2: But what you've said and what you've described, I think,

751
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 2: especially when you look at the last two weeks or

752
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 2: last three weeks, even going into Cincinnati, when that when

753
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 2: that the schedule came out and you saw, hey, we're

754
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 2: going to Cincinnati Monday night football.

755
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 3: If you're predicting wins.

756
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 2: And losses, you probably predicted that as a as a loss,

757
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 2: just honestly.

758
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 3: And then for them to.

759
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: Go to the team that's been in the playoffs every

760
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: year all those games row and two, I went, oh boy, yeah, you.

761
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 2: Know, like maybe going out here be competitive. But that

762
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 2: game in the last two weeks and the way the

763
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 2: offense is played and the way the defense played the

764
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: last two weeks, man, the expectations definitely have changed.

765
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 3: You know.

766
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 2: I feel like we're going to compete in every game

767
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 2: just because of the way the coaches demand and the

768
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 2: buying that the coaches that the players have on everything

769
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: that they go.

770
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: I'll tell you too, like The other thing that's really

771
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: standing out is, you know, to be very easy to

772
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: get caught up in all this stuff, and like it

773
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: doesn't help when I sit here and go who's playing

774
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: better than you know? You know what I mean, I

775
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: understand all that, Like yeah, and I'm not. You know,

776
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: there's a million voices out there. Go watch ESPN today.

777
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna send a million people saying how

778
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: great they are. Nickelodeon showed up here and slimed James

779
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: Daniels right like, they're calling him NFC rookie, of this

780
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: NFC rookie of that, they're giving him all the accolades.

781
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, people are talking about them very differently.

782
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: It's so easy to get caught up in all of that.

783
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: And Dan Quinch talked openly last couple of weeks, don't

784
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: get on the roller coaster. Well, you know, so they

785
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: go out to Arizona after the Monday night game where

786
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: everybody's freaking out about how they played in the throw

787
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: that he made, and what do they do. They blow

788
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: out the Cardinals and play their best complete game of

789
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: the season and not close. And if you go, well,

790
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: that's the Cardinals and they're not very good. Really. They

791
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: just beat the forty nine ers yesterday. They boat raced

792
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: the Rams and they could have won in Buffalo, but

793
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: they were non competitive against this team. So how good

794
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: is this team? Right?

795
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 2: And the Giants went out to Seattle and beat the

796
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 2: Seahawks right yesterday.

797
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: So all of a sudden, the Giants who have won

798
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: like two of their last three. That doesn't look like

799
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: the same win that Washington got a few weeks ago

800
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: as well.

801
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 3: No, not at all.

802
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 2: And what I love too is when you look at it,

803
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 2: and I know we've talked a lot about Jaden, but

804
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 2: when you yesterday ended his press conference and also when

805
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 2: we interviewed him, he's happy we won the game, but

806
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 2: he knows he can play better and the offense can

807
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 2: be better, and there's so much more they call to,

808
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 2: haven't They left a lot of meat on the bomb?

809
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that that might agree with that too. That's

810
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 1: the craziest part. That we walked out of there going, well,

811
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: that wasn't their best performance? Exactly thirty four points later

812
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: in a twenty one point.

813
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 3: Win, Yeah, exactly.

814
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 2: And that right there, despite all of the national media

815
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 2: attention that they've gotten, and it's going to get more.

816
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 2: They understand that we have to continue to get better,

817
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 2: continue to improve. Coach Quinn is emphasizing that, and I

818
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 2: don't think the players are going to get too far

819
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 2: ahead of them sales and start smelling them sales, so

820
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: to speak. They don't come in and continue to be

821
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 2: about the work. Continue to be about the work each

822
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 2: and every day, Respecting the opponent, regardless of who it is,

823
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 2: Respecting the preparation that it takes to win in the

824
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 2: National Football League, and respecting all the things that encompasses,

825
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 2: you know, going out there and playing your best football

826
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 2: game day.

827
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Speaker 1: Let me talk about one more thing on the offense

828
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: before we get to Jaden and his performance, which is

829
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 1: their run game, because for the third time in five

830
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 1: games they've rushed for over two hundred yards in a game,

831
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Speaker 1: which is astonishing. It's an astonishing number. And especially last

832
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: week Cleveland, whose defense. I really respect the group that

833
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: they have off of what they came off of, the

834
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,280
Speaker 1: group that they that they bring and how aggressive they play.

835
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Speaker 1: It's hard. But if you'd watched again, going back to

836
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: that Raiders game, so mere White was finding creases on them.

837
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: So there were some cracks that were starting to happen

838
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: to them. And here's another crazy historic stat. Washington has

839
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,439
Speaker 1: scored three rushing touchdowns in three consecutive games, the first

840
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 1: time in franchise history, the second team in NFL history

841
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: to have at least three rushing touchdowns in four of

842
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: their first five games, joining the nineteen fifty four San

843
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers. We came out of camp. You

844
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 1: looked at the profile of the team, right, and you've

845
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: got Robinson and Eckler, and now we know McNichols is

846
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: a very good contributor there as well. And I looked

847
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: at their receivers and I go, this is not a

848
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: team that's probably going to throw the ball down the

849
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: field all that much. And they got a rookie quarterback.

850
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if they actually run the ball

851
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,439
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty. Really, if it's up to them, well,

852
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: that's one thing. It's another thing to do it as

853
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: effectively as they do it. So they're not only just

854
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: running the ball a lot. It's the timing of the calls.

855
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: It's the skill of the players. Eckler looks like he

856
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: is completely refreshed from three four years ago. Dynamic, the

857
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 1: quick cuts that he makes turning small plays into big plays.

858
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: His fourth down run was one of the key plays

859
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: of the game where he cut back on the edge

860
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 1: that was set to get it. Was a fourth and

861
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: two where he cut back against the edge and got it.

862
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: Their run game is just humming right now.

863
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 3: They're humming.

864
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 2: And you know, Anthony Linn was brought in as the

865
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 2: run game coordinator, former head coach of the Chargers, was

866
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: with the San Francisco forty nine Ers well the last

867
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 2: two years, and we know what that forty nine Ers

868
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 2: run game was like, and he's brought a lot of

869
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,919
Speaker 2: that run scheme to Washington. It starts up front door

870
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 2: for me with the trenches the offensive line. In order

871
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 2: to be successful in the run game, you got to

872
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 2: move people an offensive line, they're moving people out of

873
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 2: the way. Tight ends are doing an excellent job of block.

874
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 2: And I mentioned the wide receivers b Rob although he

875
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 2: didn't have you know, major numbers yesterday in that ball game,

876
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 2: had the two rushing touchdowns. But his ability to find

877
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 2: and get through small creases get skinny. Even though he's

878
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 2: a bigger back, he has the ability to get skinny

879
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 2: with great foot great footwork. Eckler I mean, my goodness, man,

880
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 2: he has his his size, his his vision, all the

881
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 2: things he's done. And then you know Jeremy Nicholas, he's

882
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 2: been like you know, blessing in disguise. But it's a

883
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 2: it's a combination of everything. This scheme when you call

884
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 2: these plays the office of line moving people, in the

885
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 2: skill of the running backs who are who are carrying

886
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 2: the things out, and we got when you talk about

887
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 2: the running game, you can't you can't mention or forget

888
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 2: to mention.

889
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: Number five, Jay eighty two on the ground exactly. He

890
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: had the huge third down thirty four yard run that

891
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,720
Speaker 1: got him set up in the red zone again inside

892
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: the five. It's it's only that he can do it,

893
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: it's how he does it right, you know. It's these

894
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 1: free rushers come out of him. He gets buy him.

895
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: They brought six on the play that he threw to

896
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 1: Terry where he got on the outside, and actually that

897
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: was one of the first times I've seen him in

898
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 1: those situations actually keep his eyes up and throw the

899
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: ball down on the field. So it's like he's still

900
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: this AI quarterback. Information he gets the he just turns

901
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: out and then.

902
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 2: That's going to open up so much more for him

903
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 2: in the running game and also open up more stuff

904
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 2: down field.

905
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: Let's see Robertson only eighteen yards of the ground, two touchdowns,

906
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: Eckler sixty seven, McNichols forty four. He scored a touchdown,

907
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: Jayden eighty two. Thirty plus rush attempts in every game

908
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 1: this year. They had none of those last season. Forget

909
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: last season over two hundred yards, yeah, break up last

910
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: season over jordi of yards again, you know, three of

911
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: five games. If they're going to play defense to the

912
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: degree that they've played at the last two weeks and

913
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 1: they're going to run the ball like this again, you

914
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: need to reset your expectations. Why do Cincinnati have the

915
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: record they have. They don't run the ball very well

916
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: and they can't really stop the run. You know, like

917
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: it's a simple formula in this game that if you

918
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: overpower people and control the clock and don't turn the

919
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: ball over and then they can't make plays because there's

920
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,720
Speaker 1: they're stuck in the second and eight second and ninees.

921
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: Guess what, It's a formula for winning. It's been tried

922
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 1: and true forever.

923
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And going into next week game against the Ravens,

924
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 3: and I know we the Ravens.

925
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 2: They gave up what thirty eight points yesterday to the Bengals.

926
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 2: They're not playing, I guess to the level that they

927
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 2: normally played defensively. Haven't had a chance to study the Ravens,

928
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 2: you know, going into this game yet. But if we

929
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 2: can stay ahead of the chains, be able to run

930
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 2: the ball effectively. Now, I know they got Marlon Humphrey,

931
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 2: who's an our standing corner, and they got the safety

932
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 2: Kyle Hamilton who's outstanding. I don't know what else they

933
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 2: have on the back end. That may open up some

934
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 2: things in the passing game where we can we can

935
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 2: rent win some one on one matchups. Luke McCaffrey, he's

936
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 2: not playing like a rookie either. He's been he's been

937
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 2: doing some things, you know, to have the ability that

938
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: you know you can trust die me on downfit throws.

939
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 2: We know what Terry's gonna bring each and every day,

940
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 2: each and every game. But the ability to run the

941
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 2: ball effectively, it puts you in a lot of third

942
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 2: and shorts, third and uh, you know, mediums. And you

943
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 2: mentioned also the ability if if everything is covered up,

944
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 2: Jaden's ability to make something happen with.

945
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: Him and you know, I want to say this too.

946
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,720
Speaker 1: I mean, like Kingsbury, this was the first game where

947
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: they were stunted on first down a few times early

948
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: in the game. Rarely has that been the case. And

949
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: I think one of the humongous keys to the success

950
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: so far this year is Kingsbury has creatively gotten them

951
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: into these second and manageable situations where the playbook's just

952
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: opened to them. So I think he's played a key

953
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 1: role in all this too. Execution has been amazing, the blocking,

954
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: the running backs are bringing it, the blocking down field,

955
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 1: and Jaden, of course, I think is so far ahead

956
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: of the curve that it's hard to describe. He's kind

957
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: of rewriting a lot of the record books for rookie quarterbacks.

958
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: But I think Kingsbury deserves a lot of credit here too.

959
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: And as the game went along and the body language

960
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: of the brown started to change, they took advantage of it.

961
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: And that's what you're supposed to do, you.

962
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 3: No, absolutely, I thought, I don't know if the Browns.

963
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 2: Defense got tired, because it was just like they were

964
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 2: so frustrated that the offense wasn't doing things. And they

965
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 2: had to be frustrated because this is demoralizing as a defense.

966
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 2: Having played defense, when you feel like you have a

967
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 2: quarterback in your grasp, you got the right call, died

968
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 2: up and Jim Swartz, he died up the right call.

969
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 3: So to speak.

970
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 2: You get free runner, free rushers, and you think you

971
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 2: have Jaden dead the rice for a sack, and all

972
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 2: of a sudden, Superman comes out of the box.

973
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 3: You know he's wearing number five.

974
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 2: He's able to make you miss, get outside the pocket.

975
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 2: It's the big play to terry or have a thirty

976
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 2: four yard run or another run that converse first downs.

977
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:34,280
Speaker 2: Those things demralize a defense because you had great coverage

978
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 2: on the back end.

979
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 3: That's why he wasn't able to cover it. Throw the

980
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 3: football he had to.

981
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 2: You got free runners, you've done everything right, and you

982
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,399
Speaker 2: still don't wear that down.

983
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's nothing more to moralizing. It's early and I

984
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 1: hate to in comps, but like when people describe him like,

985
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: well he can run like Lamar hen or Field or

986
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: something like that, I don't think it's like that, Like

987
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 1: he's more accurate and dangerous to his arm than they

988
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: were at least in their career. Yeah, I'm old, So

989
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: the comps to me that when I see him, feels

990
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: very early John Elway to me, where it's it's very smooth.

991
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: He can really run, He'll kill you with his arm.

992
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: He's actually he can be very accurate too. Or Steve

993
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 1: Young feels a little bit like that too. Steve Young

994
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: felt a little more frenetic the way he played, but

995
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: similarly could really run the ball and throw the ball. Well.

996
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: He reminds me of a very young John Elway the

997
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: way that it's so smooth, the way he kind of

998
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: goes about it.

999
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's a great comparison.

1000
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 2: And by the way, I still don't like John Elway

1001
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 2: because I grew up a Brows fan and lway he

1002
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 2: destroyed us in multiple AFC Championship games, but he was

1003
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 2: outstanding his ability to make plays.

1004
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,240
Speaker 3: Great comparison I've gone against.

1005
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 2: I went against Michael Vick when he was when he

1006
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 2: was a rookie, not nearly the thrower the football like like.

1007
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: Ja devastating speed.

1008
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean zero sixty like that. I can

1009
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 2: see similarities. When they mentioned Lamar in terms of there's

1010
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 2: times when you look at him run and you're like, oh,

1011
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 2: that look that is Lamar Jackson.

1012
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 1: Le Jayden's definitely a better early in Yeah, passer than Lamar,

1013
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: and Lamar has been turning into a better pastor, but

1014
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 1: early in his career. I mean that was really the

1015
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: knockout that he's an amazing runner, amazing athlete. But not

1016
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: that accurate, really, no, not that accurate.

1017
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 3: I don't know what what Randall Cunningham.

1018
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:35,959
Speaker 2: Was like, Yeah, early rookie, your first teching, your guy.

1019
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 2: I know what he was, you know, as he got

1020
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 2: a little bit more season, dangerous, dangerous guy. But you

1021
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 2: know he might just be one of one. He just

1022
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 2: you know, he's just Jaden Daniels. He's one of one.

1023
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: All Right, we're in the studio. They like to play

1024
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: games here, so you're ready to play games. Play. We're

1025
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: gonna pull this way. Let's call this one this or that?

1026
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: This is I like that, all right, I'll give you

1027
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: a few of them. Oh can you tell me if

1028
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: it's this or that? I want to hear you too.

1029
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: You got to give answer to that's fun. The defense

1030
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: has arrived, commanders or Cleveland's offense is terrible? This or that?

1031
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: Well both both, But I will.

1032
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 2: Say this, our defense I'm gonna lean more so on.

1033
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 2: Our defense haven't arrived. Because you look at what they

1034
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 2: did last week against the Cardinals, having what I think

1035
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 2: four sacks in that game. Really, you know, the pass

1036
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 2: rush coming to live defensive front, really imposing their wheels

1037
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 2: wheel on the game. And as I said, dictating the

1038
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 2: terms of the agreement. Our defense dictated the terms of

1039
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 2: the agreement yesterday with the cleveand Browns, and it was

1040
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 2: very one sided terms and the Browns had no choice

1041
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 2: but to accept those terms. Out of Browns offense also

1042
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 2: stinks too, so, but I think it's more of our

1043
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 2: defense han't arrived.

1044
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: I don't think we've arrived yet. We don't have an

1045
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: interception they claimed ball as life. Of all these points

1046
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: at Washington scores, it's never on short fields. One time

1047
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: yesterday on the punt return there's been no interception at

1048
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 1: the twenty or fumble recovery and they get the short

1049
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: field and they score. Washington's had to walk down the

1050
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: field to do all these things and get the points.

1051
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: So I don't think they've arrived yet. They're playing way way,

1052
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: way better than they have for over the first last

1053
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: two weeks compared to the first time last two weeks.

1054
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 1: The last two weeks has been better, but I'm still

1055
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for what they talk about, which is ball

1056
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: is life, and I haven't seen that part yet.

1057
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 3: Row they had seven sacks yesterday, hey, eleven and at last.

1058
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: I'm not complaining, But when you use the word arrive

1059
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: and you set the benchmark for we're going to get

1060
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: turnovers and you're not getting them, then you haven't arrived yet.

1061
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: So that's where that's how I feel about it. And

1062
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: I bet Deeke you and wit like me saying that

1063
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 1: right now. I'm on their team about that one. Ah,

1064
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 1: let's go to that played really well. When you hold

1065
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: a team to thirty eight yards and a half, you're

1066
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: doing something right. Yeah, Okay, Jaden is still missing the

1067
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: open guys or the rookie is still growing here because

1068
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: you had what you called it out on the one

1069
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: he scrambled it wide open Terry mccaury should have been

1070
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: a touchdown pass.

1071
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the rookie still growing. There was

1072
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 2: some and he'll he'll be better. I mentioned this the

1073
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 2: more he plays. I know going into that game he

1074
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 2: was completely eighty two percent of his passes. Those numbers,

1075
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, they didn't they didn't stay

1076
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 2: it to that level, even with the percentage not being that.

1077
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 2: I think the more games he plays, the better he

1078
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 2: will become because of the experiences he has the experience

1079
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 2: of yesterday against the Cleveland Browns and that type of

1080
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 2: defense where he felt I felt he was a little

1081
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 2: sped up, maybe a little unsettled early. You know, he

1082
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 2: missed a couple I thought open receivers he had that,

1083
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 2: he missed the urge down the middle. Yeah, he missed

1084
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 2: I thought ersing in the end zone for a touchdown,

1085
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 2: inaccurate throw. But he's going to continue to get better

1086
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 2: and fak folks, we got to understand this. He's only

1087
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 2: played five games, so he's still the rookie, is still growing.

1088
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: That's that's why I described him as AI. They just

1089
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: put more information in him and he improves every single time.

1090
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: So where's it gonna He's chat GVT, Where's it going

1091
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: to go?

1092
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 3: Right?

1093
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: Where's it gonna go from here? I'm gonna go with

1094
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: He's just still growing. That's what I think. And to

1095
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: your point, it just it's five games. People seem to

1096
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: forget this part. He's playing better than any rooky quarterback

1097
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: I've literally ever seen. But it still doesn't mean there's

1098
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: a lot of room to grow. And I think yesterday

1099
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:27,720
Speaker 1: was one of the first times that he actually missed

1100
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: a couple of throws that he probably wants back. I

1101
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 1: will say this though about him, and this is the

1102
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,439
Speaker 1: part that I'm really, really really excited about. How many

1103
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: times does he put the ball in danger. He's extremely

1104
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: protective of it. He had one bad throw in Arizona

1105
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 1: that got picked off. He had a second one there

1106
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: that I think they caught him a little bit and

1107
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: it was inaccurate and it was a miss, but it

1108
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: wasn't really close to being picked I mean, he's had

1109
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: one interception in five games because he doesn't put the

1110
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 1: ball in harm's way.

1111
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 3: He had the one yesterday, Oh.

1112
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: Right, right, right right, Yeah to two and five games.

1113
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 1: That was a bad throw. Ko came in a nice

1114
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: play day. I don't want take any away from he

1115
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 1: made a very nice play that that was a bad

1116
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: throw miss ditch on a touchdown could ad mcloony a

1117
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: touched up. So there's room to grow obviously here. But

1118
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 1: in general, his decision making on the whole, for the

1119
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: large part is way ahead of the curve. And that's

1120
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: what I really and that's why I stick with he's growing.

1121
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 2: Think about this, with the exception of the first quarter.

1122
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 2: First quarter side, I thought Jane was outstanding. Yes, I

1123
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,879
Speaker 2: mean he had several remarkable throws. One of the best

1124
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 2: throws he had was there was a comeback that he

1125
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 2: threw a deep comeback to Terry on the sideline and

1126
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 2: he threw that ball before Terry was out of his break.

1127
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 3: Perfect throw. I mean, it wasn't a touchdown play.

1128
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,240
Speaker 2: Or one that's going to make the Sports Center highlight,

1129
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 2: but I'm sure when the coaches talk about that throw

1130
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 2: that he made, that was a big time throw.

1131
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,399
Speaker 1: All right, last one. This is who they are. They're

1132
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: good or it's going to come back to earth. I think.

1133
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 2: This is who they are with the caveata and I said,

1134
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 2: even being four and one right now, they know they

1135
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 2: can play better. They know that they can play better

1136
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 2: football and every facet.

1137
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 3: So I believe this is who they are. I do too.

1138
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,919
Speaker 1: I thought after the Cincinnati game that this is the

1139
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: beginning that we saw the first big moment of the beginning.

1140
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but it's the beginning

1141
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: of something. I wanted to see what would happen the

1142
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: next week, and they turn around and they play better,

1143
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 1: and they play their best complimentary performance across the board

1144
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 1: that I've seen them play in a long time. Just

1145
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: in general, this team to play this way, turn around,

1146
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: come home. Everybody's all pumped up around here. The last

1147
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: time we had a game like this where they asked

1148
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 1: the crowd to show up and expected to win was

1149
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 1: a Sunday night game against the Giants, and they laid

1150
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 1: a dud. That was they couldn't score any points. There

1151
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: was a couple of bad call at the end of

1152
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 1: the game. Aclory got called for an off side you'll

1153
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: remember that I shouldn't have been called, and then Curtis

1154
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: Sama got mugged in the endzine. They didn't throw a flag.

1155
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 1: But this was the first time we've asked everybody show up,

1156
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: get on board with this thing, and they delivered. Yes,

1157
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: this now is new normal. How good is it going

1158
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: to be? I don't know, but I am very confident

1159
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 1: that it's not going back in a different direction. Like,

1160
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 1: are they the type of team that's going to ascend

1161
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: that quickly to head into New Orleans this February. I

1162
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: don't know about that, but I don't feel like that

1163
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: this is an aberration anymore, and I think I've seen

1164
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 1: too much with too much growth to go to think

1165
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: it's going backwards. I think we're in a new normal

1166
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: and we all need to get accustomed to it.

1167
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 3: That's it.

1168
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: I totally agree, man, Yeah, all right, which leads me

1169
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: into I want to do your heavyweight championship belt in

1170
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: a moment, because I do think that this is our

1171
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: first big game of this new era. Now, the Cincinnati

1172
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: one may or may not have been perceived that way.

1173
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: It's Monday night up there. Cincinnati typically has a very good,

1174
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 1: you know, very good team with Burrow, and they'd gotten

1175
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:07,760
Speaker 1: Higgins back and all that. But I don't think anybody

1176
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,399
Speaker 1: knew we weren't in the new normal yet. We need

1177
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,399
Speaker 1: to prove some things. This first big game that they're having,

1178
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: spotlight game. Everybody's gonna paying attention to it. People know

1179
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: how good Baltimore is. They do it every single year.

1180
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 1: To matchup of quarterbacks. That's going to bring a lot

1181
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: of attention. We're gonna get some national media here this week.

1182
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 3: We do you think?

1183
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 2: I tell you what, man, I feel like I'm getting

1184
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 2: ready to call a big game.

1185
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 3: I don't know it is.

1186
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've got there yet, but I'm

1187
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 2: anticipating Saturday rolling into Baltimore.

1188
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 3: This is this is this right here. It's true.

1189
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 2: It's a litmus test early in the season, and I'm

1190
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 2: sure we'll have many more. But when you understand historically

1191
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 2: what Baltimore, what the Baltimore Ravens are.

1192
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 3: They're one of the.

1193
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 2: Top teams in the NFL year in a year out

1194
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 2: coach Harball, John har He's you know, been one of

1195
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 2: the best coaches year in the year out Lamar Jackson,

1196
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 2: two time MVP RAN and MVP.

1197
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 3: It's going to be a challenge.

1198
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: And to your point about how you know who wins

1199
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, that team on offense typically wins

1200
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 1: it exactly. This is going to be a very interesting

1201
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: telling test against that rush offense this weekend.

1202
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 3: And not only that.

1203
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 2: So they won a game yesterday, but defensively they gave

1204
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 2: up thirty eight points. I know how things happen in

1205
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 2: a defensive meeting room when you haven't played up to

1206
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 2: your expectations. The emphasis on correcting the things you didn't

1207
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 2: do well, and the attention greater attention to detail. I

1208
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 2: don't know how they tackle all the different things that

1209
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 2: they didn't do well defensively, They're going to emphasize old

1210
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 2: things a lot in their practice week. There's a lot

1211
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 2: of their meetings, So the defense, I expect them to

1212
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 2: be ready to play a lot better game the Ravens defense.

1213
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 2: So it's going to be a challenge, but I'm looking

1214
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 2: forward to it because I feel like coach Quinn is

1215
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 2: gonna have his guys ready to go out and play

1216
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 2: their best football as well.

1217
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 3: So let's see what happens. Man, you talk about heavyweight fight.

1218
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 1: Hey it is, let's ding ding ding.

1219
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 3: Let's let's get it on.

1220
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: And back to the point of who's playing better than

1221
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: them right now? And make an argument that anybody's playing

1222
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: better than Washington right now, and go look and see

1223
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: how they're installed, how big of an underdog they're installed, because.

1224
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 3: That's why it was like seven points already.

1225
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah.

1226
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 2: I mean personally, players, not a lot of players play

1227
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 2: a whole lot of attention that. I've had some coaches

1228
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 2: who kind of use that as a motivation, especially if

1229
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 2: we're like at home and we're an underdog.

1230
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 3: Hey man, they got us as an underdog here. But

1231
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 3: as players, we don't pay a whole lot of attention

1232
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 3: to that.

1233
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 2: That's not gonna make me go out and play harder.

1234
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna play hard just because this is what I do.

1235
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 2: So you know how much they're paying attention to the

1236
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 2: underdog factor. That's good for the betting world and all that,

1237
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 2: But I know they're gonna be ready to play their

1238
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 2: best football because of coach Quinn and the coaching staff

1239
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 2: and understanding that the opponent and who they are and

1240
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 2: playing in that environment, They'll be ready to play regardless

1241
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 2: of what the what the point spread is.

1242
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 1: Real quick, you played linebacker, what would you say to

1243
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 1: the people who have to tackle Derrick Henry this weekend?

1244
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 3: A double chance strap game? Buckle up.

1245
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 2: You know you got to get him before he gets going.

1246
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 2: The defensive line, the linebacks, you gotta get him before

1247
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,439
Speaker 2: he gets going. And then also there's gonna be times

1248
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 2: where the cornerbacks are gonna have to be live and

1249
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 2: willing tacklers.

1250
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 3: That's just the way it is.

1251
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,919
Speaker 2: There's gonna be times where he gets to that second level,

1252
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 2: whether you're safety or your cornerback, and they force you

1253
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 2: to be the guys fitting in the run. You have

1254
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 2: to go out be don't hesitate, don't win, don't retreat.

1255
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 2: You gotta take it to him, because a big guy

1256
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 2: like that, that's the worst thing you want to do

1257
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 2: is kind of be retreating. You gotta you gotta be

1258
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 2: aggressive and go at him.

1259
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 1: He gets go, he's gonna run you over like a truck.

1260
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 3: Yeah you got, you got.

1261
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 2: Even if he makes it, when he makes it to

1262
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 2: the second level for you, if he breaks it, you know,

1263
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 2: a long run, you still have to be aggressive in

1264
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 2: your pursuit of aggressive in your tackle attempt against him.

1265
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 1: All right, Time to bring out Big Fletches Heavyweight Commander

1266
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 1: belt goes to the play or player of the game,

1267
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 1: your choice.

1268
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 2: This is the debut of Big Fletches Heavyweight Championship Bell. Now,

1269
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 2: if y'all don't know who Big Fletch is, Big Fletch is.

1270
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 1: I I had.

1271
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 2: To go back to, you know, I gotta get back

1272
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 2: to Big Fletch, all right. The first recipient a Big

1273
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 2: Fletcher's Championship Bell, you know, me being me having played

1274
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 2: live backer bro I think is only fitting that I

1275
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 2: give this belt to the first recipient, Frankie lo.

1276
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 1: Vu.

1277
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 2: Frankie Louvu was an absolute animal in that game against

1278
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns two and a half sacks, three tackles

1279
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 2: were lost, fumble recovery, had the big fourth down stop

1280
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 2: on fourth and one early on the Browns.

1281
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 3: First player of the game, first series of the game.

1282
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 2: It had a number of impactful plays that just it

1283
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 2: might not even made the stat sheet, but just his impact,

1284
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 2: his intensity, his physicality, there's nobody who would question me

1285
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 2: giving Frankie Louv the Big Fletcher's Heavyweight Championship belt.

1286
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 1: That's my guy, first player since Ryan Kerrigan four years ago.

1287
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 1: Two sacks and a fumble recovery in the same game.

1288
01:02:56,280 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 1: His energy is unbelievable, absolutely unbelievab and a worthy recipient

1289
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 1: of the belt.

1290
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 2: We'll present this belt to well, we won't presented to

1291
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 2: them because we're gonna need this for next week's show

1292
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 2: or we go to but you know, we'll send him

1293
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 2: a letter or something to let him know he won

1294
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 2: this belt.

1295
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 1: I can't wait for next week. We haven't had something

1296
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 1: like this in a while. Feels like a real big game,

1297
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 1: show me moment off of the team on the rise.

1298
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's beil.

1299
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, I don't know you.

1300
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 2: Last year you went down to watch the joint practices

1301
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 2: with the Ravens or I don't know if.

1302
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 1: You that's a long story. Listen.

1303
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I was at those practices and it was

1304
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 2: intention I don't know if you you remember last year, well,

1305
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 2: I know you remember the preseason game from last year.

1306
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 2: There's already a h it's a it's a bit of rivalry,

1307
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 2: the Beltway Battle and all that.

1308
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 3: The battle.

1309
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 1: We had a game with the Ravens that kind of

1310
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 1: had this much on the line, not probably ever, probably

1311
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 1: ever ever, but it's going to be physical.

1312
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 3: All right.

1313
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 1: I can't wait. I can't see you there Sunday, see

1314
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 1: you back here next week. That'll do it for the Booths.

1315
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:07,439
Speaker 3: Re deal