WEBVTT - 010 Rich on Tech Radio Show - March 11, 2023 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:05.040 A major lifeline bank to the tech industry fails. Ring 0:00:05.280 --> 0:00:10.360 launches its best video doorbell yet, spring Break, travel apps 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:14.360 plus your tech questions answered. What is going on? I'm 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:17.960 Rich Demiro and this is Rich on Tech, the show 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:20.000 where I talk about the tech stuff I think you 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:22.960 should know about. It's also the place where I answer 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:27.600 your questions about technology. I'm the tech reporter at KTLA 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:32.520 Channel five in Los Angeles. Welcome to the show. Phone 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:36.600 lines are now open at one eight eight eight Rich 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:40.600 one oh one, that's triple eight seven four to two, 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:43.559 four to one zero one. Give me a call if 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:45.800 you have a question about technology. I will do my 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:47.320 best to answer it. 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:48.960 Well. 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:53.120 It is a really big day in the tech world. 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:56.280 Not for a good reason, but for a pretty bad reason. 0:00:56.840 --> 0:01:00.560 A major bank that provides a lot of banking services 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:05.120 to Silicon Valley has collapsed. It's Silicon Valley Bank. That's 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:07.880 the name of the bank. You probably haven't heard of it. 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:12.039 It's a regional bank, but it is very popular among 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:15.120 the tech community. We're talking VC funds. These are the 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:17.520 people that hand out money to startups to help them 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:20.760 create new businesses that might one day become an uber 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:24.560 or a Twitter or a square or anything else we've 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:27.720 heard of. They all started with VC funds. Founders do 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:31.399 business here. Tech industry employees do business at this bank. 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:35.240 Imagine you going to your bank and it's closed, and 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:38.240 they say you can't transfer money out, you can't use 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:41.800 your online banking app, you can't do anything. Your money's 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:45.560 just stuck. Imagine that feeling. That is the feeling right 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:50.720 now among thousands of people in the tech industry right now, 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:55.440 that uncertainty where is my money going to come from? 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:57.840 How am I going to access this? Am I going 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:00.760 to get it? This bank is now under the protection 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:04.040 of the US government. Now I've said in the past 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:06.800 that this is a tech show for the average consumer. 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:09.400 So you might be wondering, well, Rich, how does this 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:12.320 really affect me? Well, in a lot of different ways, 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:15.480 Because number one, this is something we haven't seen in 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:18.840 a very long time. A bank of this stature, a 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:21.880 bank this big, has not failed since two thousand and 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:26.480 eight with Washington Mutual, remember that bank. So we haven't 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:29.480 seen something of this magnitude in a very long time. 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:34.960 Plus the repercussions of just how this will sort of 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:38.440 go through the tech industry. So I mentioned these startups 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:41.200 that rely on this bank. So many of these startups 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:43.480 now may just not be able to make payroll or 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:45.160 not be able to pay their employees, or the people 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:47.440 that work at these companies can't do anything. 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:50.440 Their hands are tied. So how did this all happen? 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:55.200 Well, I'm not an expert in financials, but basically people 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:59.200 lost confidence in this bank for no really good reason. 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:01.160 The actually put out a press. 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:03.400 Release saying what they were going to do, how they 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:05.160 were going to raise money, what they were doing to 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:09.240 kind of, you know, even shore up their financials, and 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:12.359 people saw that as a signal to say, ooh, I'm 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:14.560 not really sure. I like what's happening here, let's go 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:18.840 And so the stock price plunged. Then people did a 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:21.919 run on deposits, so old fashioned bank run. People just 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:24.919 said hey, I want my money, I want out. And 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:29.320 then when people started doing that, it's snowballed until everyone 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:32.480 had to say, okay, stop, stop stop. Government stepped in, 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:36.280 FDIC takes over, and now this bank is under the 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:39.840 power of the US government. Now for all we know, 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:43.400 the bank's financials were actually very sound. So that's what's 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:46.520 scary here is that this was an old fashioned bank 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:49.600 run where people just said, you know what, I want 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:53.000 out and I'm done. And now this bank is just 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:56.920 affecting so many people's livelihoods. Like I said, the big 0:03:56.960 --> 0:04:00.760 issue here, so many startups rely on this bank. So 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:04.560 for all these people that had their banking here, this 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:07.480 is a big period of uncertainty. This is going to 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:11.240 impact startups, founders, employees, payrolls probably will not. 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:12.080 Be met this week. 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:15.800 So I'm looking at this press release from the FDIC 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:18.400 and this is like when you realize that government is 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:20.920 you know, there's a reason why some of these things 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:25.080 are in place. So to protect insured depositors, the FDIC 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:30.240 has created the Deposit Insurance National Bank of Santa Clara DNB. 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:33.680 SO at the time of closing, this was on Friday afternoon, 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:38.640 the FDIC has now received transfership of all insured deposits 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:43.040 at Silicon Valley Bank. Now insured deposits is the keyword here. 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:46.760 All insured depositors will have full access to their insured 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:50.720 deposits no later than Monday morning, March thirteenth. But here's 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:55.400 the thing. If you know that insured deposit, that number 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:57.880 is not very high when it comes to how much 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:00.000 money some people may have had in this bank. Especial 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:03.120 if you're a small business, two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:07.039 That's the standard insurance among any bank in America. So 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:10.560 when you have a bank account somewhere or multiple bank accounts, 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:13.560 you are insured up to two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:17.760 Anything after that, there's really no saying you're not necessarily 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:21.040 guaranteed that money in the case of something like this happening. 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:25.240 So uninsured depositors are going to get so after their 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:28.800 two hundred and fifty thousand, a receivership certificate for the 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:32.240 remaining amount of their uninsured funds. So what does that mean. 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:34.680 That means you get a little certificate that says, uh, yeah, 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:36.479 we know you had a lot of money at this bank, 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:38.600 but we're just gonna give you this little piece of 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:40.320 paper that says we're going to try to get your 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:43.440 money back to you. But there's no guarantees. So as 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:47.120 the FDIC sells the assets of this Silicon Valley Bank, 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:51.880 future dividend payments may be made to uninsured depositors. How 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:54.720 would you feel if if you were a startup and 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:56.800 you had, you know, you went through this whole process 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:59.400 of going to these vcs getting a couple of million 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:01.719 dollars to art your company. Maybe it's not a ton 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:03.360 of money in the scheme of things, but you know, 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:05.520 to you it is a couple million to start your 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:09.120 new business. And next thing you know, you've got two 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:11.000 fifty and that's it. And the rest of this money 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:15.080 is just who knows when it may come. Silicon Valley 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:19.479 Bank had seventeen branches in California and Massachusetts. The main 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:23.320 office and all branches will reopen on Monday, March thirteenth. 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:26.880 They're going to maintain their normal business hours, but again 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:30.200 under the guise of the government, and banking activities will 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:33.479 resume no later than Monday, March thirteenth, including online banking 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:36.880 and other services. So you can bet when this online 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:39.360 banking fires up again on Monday, what do you think 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:41.800 people are going to do immediately? They're going to try 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:44.360 to get as much funds out of this bank as 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:49.080 humanly possible in the shortest amount of time. Official checks 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:53.040 will continue to clear. As of December thirty first, Silicon 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:55.880 Valley Bank had approximately two hundred and nine billion dollars 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:58.719 in total assets and about one hundred and seventy five 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:02.680 billion in deposit. Now I'm no math whiz, but I'm 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:05.240 just doing the math right there, two nine minus one 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:10.000 seventy five. That leaves about thirty five million dollars on accounted. 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:14.000 So right there, there's a problem. And that's typically you know, 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:16.480 banks operate this way. When you put your money in 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.320 a bank, it's not sitting there. I mean I learned 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:20.360 this in like first grade. 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:21.120 They don't just sit. 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:23.040 They don't just take your dollar bill and put it 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:26.040 in a safe and it stays there until you request it. Again, no, no, no, 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:28.200 they take that dollar bill and they loan it out 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:31.280 to people, and in that loan they make, you know, 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:34.840 millions upon millions of loans. They make money on the loans, 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:36.760 and that's how they're able to pay you that paltry 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:41.080 interest rate that you get on your savings account. So 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:44.239 they're gonna have to figure that part out as well. Now, 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:48.680 again I am reading a press release from the government. 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:51.080 What do you think the government's role in this is? 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:54.840 They want people to think that everything's going to be okay, 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:57.760 and this is just very simple. This is a very 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:02.920 easy process. Obviously that is not the case. The repercussions 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:07.920 of this are still very undetermined. We don't know how 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:10.120 people are going to react. We don't know what people 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:13.640 are going to do. In fact, I would gather that 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:16.760 even folks that have business at other banks are going 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:18.960 to say, Hey, I want some of my money back 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:20.840 right now. I want to take some of that money 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:23.760 out because I just I'm losing confidence now, especially when 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:26.280 it comes to banks that might be a bit smaller 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:29.120 than the big banks. The big banks, yeah, they'll probably 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:33.079 be okay. The smaller banks, which people favor because of 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:35.720 their service, because of the loans they can get, because 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:39.679 of the hands on approach. That's where we may be 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:43.240 in trouble because again I mentioned earlier that you probably 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:45.720 never heard of this bank. But if you're in Silicon Valley, 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:49.240 there are banks that people do business with regularly because 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:53.000 they understand the startup world. They understand what it's like 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:56.160 to start a company. They understand the term bootstrapped, and 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:59.480 they understand, you know, having employees and making payroll and 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:01.800 this is not Facebooks of the world. They're going to 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:03.800 be just fine. The Googles of the world, they'll be 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:06.600 just fine. These are all the apps that you might 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:09.480 have on your phone that are brand new, that are small. 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:11.560 I can think of several on my phone right now 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:14.320 that I'm like, hmm, what's going to happen when this 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:17.360 company can't continue to operate because their money is just 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:21.319 held up or not there. And so again, the repercussions 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:24.960 of this will be felt by consumers, by you and me. 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:27.880 It's a scary thing. I mean, you know, I've gone 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:30.280 through this once in my life, with this whole bust, 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:34.840 actually twice now. I remember specifically the bust of you know, 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:39.040 about nineteen ninety nine, two thousand and you know, we 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:43.000 saw all these tech companies just implode. And it was 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:46.160 the wild part was that the Super Bowl, I believe 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:49.400 it was probably nineteen ninety six, ninety seven something like that. 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:52.120 All of the commercials in the Super Bowl were startups 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:54.880 you'd never heard of in your life, pets dot Com 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:56.959 and all these different companies. And you sat there and 0:09:57.000 --> 0:09:59.280 he said, how did they afford super Bowl commercials? 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.120 Howdid this pets dot Com I've never heard of? 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:04.559 How can they go up against all these pet companies 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:06.960 that we know and love, like a pet Co or something. 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:11.280 And sure enough, yeah, it was it was all just 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:13.640 you know, it was all before its time. Now, tech 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:16.560 companies have taken ten years to recover from that moment, 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:18.800 and they've learned a lot from that. And then of 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:20.960 course we saw the housing bust in two thousand and 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:23.480 eight and that was a big deal, and of course 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:26.000 the government bailed out a lot of big financial firms 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:29.080 during that time. So this will be another lesson learned. 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:30.040 It's not over yet. 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:30.960 I know. 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:33.480 It's not the exciting way to start the show that 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:37.319 I typically do, and you know, I feel like it's 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:41.080 important just because we need to understand that when one 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:44.360 thing unravels, it has effects on the rest of our world, 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:47.199 whether it's you, whether it's me, whether these startups, and 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:49.880 as just a human I feel for these people that 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:52.920 are sitting there just very uncertain right now. I mean, 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:55.880 we're only twenty four forty eight seventy two hours into 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:58.800 this and there's still a lot ahead, all Right, we 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:00.600 got a lot more coming up on the show. We're 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:02.280 going to talk about that a little bit more later 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:06.080 on in the show. I've got kaya Yurief in south 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:09.400 By Southwest and Austin, Texas. She said that already that 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:11.040 is the talk of the town. So we're going to 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:14.920 talk to her about what founders are saying down there. Also, 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:17.680 we're gonna talk about the yellow iPhone. Yes, this week 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:21.319 Apple released a new iPhone that's just a different color, 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:24.440 so we'll talk about that. Facebook is making a big 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:27.400 change to Facebook Messenger, kind of doing it about face, 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:29.000 so we'll talk about that. 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:29.360 Plus. 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:32.440 My other guests this week include John Faulkner from Clean 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:35.839 Fleet Report, We're gonna talk evs, and Jefferson. 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:36.960 Graham Live in studio. 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:40.959 You may know him as the former editor at USA 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:44.440 Today Talking Tech. He's going to join me here live 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:48.000 plus your calls at triple eight Rich one oh one. 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:50.160 That's eight eight eight seven four to two, four to 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:52.640 one zero one. My name is rich DeMuro. You are 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:57.640 listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:00.280 My name is rich de Muro, sitting here talk looking 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:04.480 technology with you. You can find me online on all 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:07.720 social media at rich on Tech. 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:11.960 What a week. This was a this was a this 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:13.320 was a week for me man. 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:16.240 I mean, it's so interesting that so many of these 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:19.920 tech events and things were sort of sidelined for many, 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:24.720 many years, like three years. I'm talking virtual events with Google, Apple, 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:28.480 you know, Facebook, whatever you name it. These companies all 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:31.199 just you know, went to hibernation for a couple of years, 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:32.920 and so all these events that I would go to 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:35.000 and all these things I get invited to just kind 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:38.679 of stopped. And it was nice because it was relaxing. 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:43.000 The bad side is that now everything's starting up again. 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:45.160 I guess it's not bad, it's just it went from 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:48.240 like zero to one hundred. So I just rattle off 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:50.360 to my wife every week, like how many things I'm 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:52.559 getting invited to that either I can't go to or 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:55.040 it's just conflicting or whatever. And you got to pick 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:56.640 and choose because it's a lot of travel. I got 0:12:56.640 --> 0:12:59.800 two kids. Can't go to everything, right, But I did 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:02.440 go to a couple of things this week. First off, Vegas, 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:05.280 so this was I was actually supposed to shoot a 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:08.720 story there on Monday, but at the last minute it 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:09.800 got kind of canceled. 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:13.040 And the story is really cool. It's can I talk 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:15.240 about it? Maybe I shouldn't. 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:19.079 It's a company that's starting up that's uh, they're remote 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:22.160 remote driving cars. Let's put it that way. So this 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:27.079 car that's driving you is actually remotely driven. So it's 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:29.080 it's I don't want to give the whole thing away 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:30.600 right now, because I do want to do a story 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:33.520 with them, and it's just so super super cool. But 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:35.440 if you like, let's just put it this way, if 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:37.400 your kid is playing video games with one of those 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:39.760 like you know, steering wheel controllers at this point, they 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:43.040 may have a future with this startup because that's basically 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:45.400 what they're doing, except they're driving real cars on real 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:48.640 streets from a remote place. So anyway, that got canceled. 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:49.760 So my wife and I were supposed to go to 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:52.920 Vegas anyway and pick up this story, and so we're like, 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:53.760 you know what, let's just go. 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:55.640 So we be lined it to Vegas. 0:13:55.679 --> 0:14:00.440 And as a tech person, I am always interested in 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:04.480 seeing sort of tech in action, right, So no matter 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:06.160 what I mean, I think there's this like term for 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:09.839 like people always be closing, for like a you know, salesperson. 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:13.640 For me, it's ABT always be testing. So when I'm 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:15.920 doing something, and I mentioned this last time, how I 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:17.760 went to the airport and I charged my cars and 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:20.600 wanted to see how the charging works, the EV charging 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:22.560 at the airport. So you know, it takes a little 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:24.680 bit longer, and it takes it's a little bit more 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:27.880 in depth for me, you know, involved I should say, 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:31.400 bringing multiple phones, trying out multiple apps. But anyway, let 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:33.600 me go through the different things that I was sort 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:36.080 of testing along the way, just on a regular trip 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:38.640 to Vegas. And I know people love or hate Vegas. 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:40.760 I'm one of those people that I love it when 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:43.400 I am anticipating going there, and I hate the drive 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:46.280 home or I hate coming home because you're not feeling 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:48.280 so good, you know what I mean. So let's start 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:52.520 with the parking. So at Lax, reserve the parking online, 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:56.320 which they they just readed all the parking at Lax 0:14:56.400 --> 0:14:58.960 and so it's all high tech, it's all new. Of 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:02.600 course they increased the price, but I reserve my parking online, 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:04.640 and there isn't a thing that I'm there's always a 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:07.120 lesson in all this stuff. But the reason why I 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:09.520 mentioned this is because you should always try to do 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:11.920 stuff online or through the app as much as possible 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:13.600 right now, because this is where all the companies are 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:15.960 trying to get you to go, and so they're giving 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:19.520 you some discounts. So by booking my parking online, it 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:23.240 was cheaper than driving up and booking it in person 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:25.720 or just taking a ticket, So I saved like twenty 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:28.040 thirty bucks. The thing I thought was cool about it, 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:29.680 and I wondered if they did this, But they asked 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:32.880 me to put my license plate in the account when 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:34.360 I paid for my parking, and I was like, I 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:36.320 wonder if they're going to like automatically let me into 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:38.640 the parking lot when it does a read of my 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:40.800 license plate. And sure enough, I've drove up to the 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:44.360 little guard rail and the thing just rose when it 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:46.480 saw my license plate. So I thought that was pretty cool. 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:47.960 And then I was like, all right, let's see if 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:50.200 they're really good. Let's see if this works on the exit. 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:52.520 And sure enough I didn't have to pull out a ticket. 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:54.600 I didn't have to do anything. I just drove to 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:57.080 the exit of the parking garage. It recognized my license 0:15:57.120 --> 0:16:01.000 plate once again, the little pole lifted, and it was great. 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:03.960 At the airport, I got a salad from this vending 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:06.840 machine they call Farmer's Fridge, but I thought was pretty cool. 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:10.480 So it's a high tech vending machine that has fresh 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:13.400 salads in there. And what's neat about this is that 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:17.280 it's just neat. I mean to have They emailed me 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:19.640 because once I tweeted about they have six hundred fridge 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:22.880 and wholesale locations nationwide. I had no idea. This is 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:25.960 like a logistical nightmare to get these fresh salads across 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:29.120 the nation to all of these different vending machines, but 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:31.680 it was excellent on my way. I use this app 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:34.720 called Flighty if you want a really good flight tracking app. 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:36.520 But I'm gonna talk more about spring break apps and 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:38.840 a little bit, but this one is called Flighty. It's 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:42.120 really the most beautiful tracking app for flights you could 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:45.200 ever imagine on iOS. And yes, you're gonna have to 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:47.000 pay if you really want the best features. But what 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:50.120 I love about this app is that it looks back 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:53.680 through all of your previous flights and it will show 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:57.840 you how many miles you've flown and how many different 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:00.720 times you've gone to different places. So I can look 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:04.400 at my lifetime miles and see that I've gone five 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:07.280 hundred and thirty one thousand miles two hundred and forty 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:11.040 eight twenty one point three times around the world, and 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:13.880 I've been to forty six airports twelve countries, and I've 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:15.280 flown for fifty one days. 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:15.720 Now. 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:18.000 This is all just what they found in my email, 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:21.480 and it only goes back to uh well, twenty thirteen 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:24.040 according to them. But anyway, that's the kind of cool stuff. 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:26.920 And then when you're in Vegas, Oh my gosh, has 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:29.639 tech taken over? I remember when there were little change 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:33.600 carts and buckets for coins, and now it is all 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:36.640 cash less. I mean, I guess it's not cashless, it's 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:39.399 just cash. And those cash machines, by the way, they 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:41.840 don't even give you change. When you've got, like, you know, 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:44.120 twenty one dollars and twenty two cents to cash out, 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:45.480 they just give you the twenty one bucks and then 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:48.720 you could donate the rest of charity, many many more things. 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:52.000 I'll talk more about Vegas after the break. Phone lines 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:55.120 are open triple eight rich one oh one. That's eight 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:58.159 eight eight seven four to two, four to one zero one. 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:01.320 If you got voicemail, give me a call again. Phone 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:07.760 lines are open. Welcome back to rich On Tech. Phone 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:10.960 lines are open at triple eight rich one oh one. 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:13.680 That's eight eight eight seven four to two, four to 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:16.119 one zero one. If you get the voice, bail on 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:21.680 the first try. Try calling again. All right, So south 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:25.680 By Southwest is happening in Austin, Texas. It is one 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:28.679 of my favorite things to go to, even though I 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:31.520 have not been there in a while. It's just it's 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:35.160 it's always just right after CS and you know, I'm anyway, 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:40.119 so uh Kaya Yuif is a reporter for the Information 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:45.360 and she is down there, and Kaya, how is it Welcome. 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:47.959 To the show, Hi Rich, thanks for having me. I mean, 0:18:48.119 --> 0:18:50.440 it feels like it's back. I was here last year 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:53.760 and it was firstly attended. We were coming out of Omicron. 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:56.960 Still there were all sorts of restrictions, so there's tons 0:18:56.960 --> 0:19:00.239 of hus one bustle. The events are very busy, so 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:01.680 it does feel like we're. 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:03.120 Back in action here now. 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:06.679 South By Southwest IF for the uninitiated, is kind of 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:09.600 it started out as like a music festival and then 0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:13.399 it was music interactive and oh film, So there's like 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:16.879 three kind of tracks at this festival, and tech is 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:18.800 a big part of it, and a lot of tech 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:21.320 folks go there to talk about stuff and to discuss 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:23.920 kind of the issues or things that are happening in 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:26.840 the industry. But it's also a place where many startups 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:30.399 have gotten their start, Like I mean, I think Twitter, Kaya, 0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:31.159 can you help me out here? 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:32.720 Was it Twitter? Like yep? 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:35.560 Twitter, Fourth Square? There were a few really big ones 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:36.280 that came out of it. 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:38.240 Yeah, so every year I would go and I would 0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:41.720 just kind of walk around and see what the startups were, 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:44.000 which ones looked cool, and of course they were always 0:19:44.040 --> 0:19:46.800 giving out like little swag. And you know, the thing 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:49.199 is everyone's trying to get your attention. That's really what 0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:50.840 it comes down to. If you're a startup, they're all 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:53.840 just trying to get your attention. So kaya, first off, 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:57.280 the big news of the day this SVB, this Silicon 0:19:57.359 --> 0:19:58.000 Valley Bank. 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:00.720 I assume that's just what everyone talking about. 0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:04.960 Yeah, I mean absolutely, you have you know, on one hand, 0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:07.919 you have the festival attack, people are excited, but you 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:11.359 do have this news of Fulican Valley Bank's implosion hanging 0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:15.000 over the kickoffs, you know, as founders and vcs descended 0:20:15.040 --> 0:20:17.399 on Austin yesterday. So we're telling me they were scrapping 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:20.720 their evening plans or you know, trying to just navigate 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:24.280 the unfolding situation. So pretty much every conversation that, every 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:27.400 conversation I've had with people has touched on a sub. 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:30.879 And so my sort of thought is that this is 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:33.480 obviously just starting. This is just the beginning. I'm not 0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:35.399 saying other banks will fail. I mean, we don't know 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:37.680 if that's going to happen or not, but it does 0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:41.880 have repercussions throughout the industry that we may not understand 0:20:41.960 --> 0:20:43.600 just yet. I mean, a lot of these startups use 0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:46.679 this bank and may not have access to their capital 0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:47.480 at this point, right. 0:20:48.480 --> 0:20:50.840 Yeah, definitely, The Information has done a ton of reporting 0:20:50.840 --> 0:20:53.560 on this. I Mean, the big issue immedia issue is 0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:57.640 making payroll, so startups are really trying to figure that out. 0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:00.440 You know, it's possible a buyer will come in as well. 0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:04.040 So this is really unfolding and could change by the minute, 0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:05.040 or the day or the hour. 0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:10.600 So besides that, what is kind of what is some 0:21:10.640 --> 0:21:12.560 of the main themes you're seeing this year? I mean, 0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:16.719 obviously crypto is always kind of a lingering in the 0:21:16.760 --> 0:21:17.320 tech world. 0:21:17.440 --> 0:21:18.920 Is that a big thought this year? 0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:22.480 So it's funny because last year it was you could 0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:26.399 not escape crypto. There were flyers everywhere for crypto projects. 0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:30.200 One of the most popular activations was from Doodles, which 0:21:30.240 --> 0:21:34.120 was an NFT project that's very pastel you pastel themes, 0:21:34.240 --> 0:21:37.040 there were long lines to get into it. This year 0:21:37.080 --> 0:21:39.760 it's pretty much crickets. I mean, there are still webs 0:21:39.760 --> 0:21:43.040 three and crypto panels going on, but the big scene 0:21:43.119 --> 0:21:46.000 is definitely AI. So we've done this, this pivot from 0:21:46.119 --> 0:21:49.439 crypto to AI. Last year I went to a brunch 0:21:49.680 --> 0:21:52.080 for women in Websterree and this year I was invited 0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:54.679 to an AI brunch, So you're really seeing kind of 0:21:54.760 --> 0:21:57.640 the sharp move to AI here this year. 0:21:57.920 --> 0:21:59.960 I feel like with the tech industry at this point, 0:22:00.160 --> 0:22:02.879 it is like just imagine a bunch of people like 0:22:03.080 --> 0:22:05.880 sitting in a in an auditorium and just looking over 0:22:05.960 --> 0:22:08.520 the left ah, looking over to the right, ah, looking 0:22:08.560 --> 0:22:11.160 over to the middle AH. So it's like all these 0:22:11.160 --> 0:22:14.760 different things that the industry kind of fixates on. Crypto 0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:19.280 definitely had its time. It seems like there's less interest 0:22:19.320 --> 0:22:22.240 these days, clearly because of what happened with FTX and 0:22:22.280 --> 0:22:26.040 all the collapse of that. But now AI, I don't 0:22:26.080 --> 0:22:28.520 see the same future for that like AI. Well, there's 0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:30.680 also VR was in there where people were all excited 0:22:30.680 --> 0:22:33.159 about VR, which I still think is gonna happen, but 0:22:33.280 --> 0:22:36.280 it's AI has seemed to happen the fastest out of 0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:37.640 anything we've seen so far. 0:22:37.640 --> 0:22:39.080 Would that be kind of accurate? 0:22:39.960 --> 0:22:42.639 Yeah, definitely, And I think the focus is really on 0:22:42.720 --> 0:22:45.920 generative AI so we've seen obviously open ais chat GBT 0:22:46.080 --> 0:22:48.440 takes the world by storm over the past few weeks 0:22:48.480 --> 0:22:50.879 and months. So it's not even it's AI, but it's 0:22:50.920 --> 0:22:53.399 also generative AI and kind of what the applications can 0:22:53.440 --> 0:22:53.760 look like. 0:22:53.960 --> 0:22:55.840 Yeah, explain can you explain that a little bit? What 0:22:55.880 --> 0:22:56.360 does that mean? 0:22:56.480 --> 0:22:56.680 Yeah? 0:22:56.680 --> 0:22:58.880 I think the difference is it's tangible, right, you can 0:22:58.920 --> 0:23:01.080 go into this chat box and ask it to write 0:23:01.080 --> 0:23:03.080 something for you and it does it. Whereas I think 0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:05.439 with a lot of these webs free and crypto applications, 0:23:05.760 --> 0:23:09.119 it was still, you know, very much still an idea 0:23:09.359 --> 0:23:11.400 versus the tech wasn't totally there yet. So I think 0:23:11.440 --> 0:23:13.680 that's part of the reason. But I think it's also 0:23:13.760 --> 0:23:16.960 really useful and has really strong consumer application. 0:23:17.440 --> 0:23:20.040 I mean, I know personally, I've been using the bing 0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:23.119 ai since I got access to the wait list feature, 0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:25.600 you know, like the bing dot com slash new, and 0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:28.200 I've now been using it on a daily basis because 0:23:28.240 --> 0:23:31.320 it's so interesting, especially having it on my phone. Like 0:23:31.359 --> 0:23:32.800 the other night, I was at a concert and there 0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:35.400 was three artists, and typically I would look up those 0:23:35.480 --> 0:23:37.440 artists on Google and just get like a little background 0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:39.679 of them, and you know, Google has its way of 0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:42.320 kind of putting different information front and center when you 0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:45.520 Google someone, but with this being AI, it pretty much 0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:47.919 gives me like a biography of them that's sort of 0:23:47.920 --> 0:23:50.360 written up just for me, And it's just a whole 0:23:50.400 --> 0:23:53.760 different way of thinking about getting information, which I think 0:23:53.840 --> 0:23:55.000 is really fascinating to me. 0:23:56.480 --> 0:23:59.080 Yeah, definitely. So we've we've seen a lot of that. 0:23:59.160 --> 0:24:01.520 I haven't got for a ton of sessions yet on 0:24:01.640 --> 0:24:03.720 jener to AI, but it's very hard to escape this 0:24:03.880 --> 0:24:04.920 year now. 0:24:04.880 --> 0:24:07.000 You cover creator economy in. 0:24:07.000 --> 0:24:08.040 A big way. 0:24:08.560 --> 0:24:10.520 Yes, I do, So tell me about that. I mean, 0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:12.760 what's what's going on with that? Especially at south By 0:24:12.880 --> 0:24:15.040 and are we seeing anything new with that? 0:24:16.400 --> 0:24:16.640 Yeah? 0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:18.679 I think with the Creator company. The main event that 0:24:18.720 --> 0:24:21.160 I went to yesterday was an event thrown by Doing 0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:24.000 Things Media. It's a meme account that raised over twenty 0:24:24.000 --> 0:24:26.560 million dollars in VC funding last year. They're behind popular 0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:30.800 Meana accounts, and they actually acquired another meme account called Overheard. 0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:32.760 I don't know if you know overheard La, but it's 0:24:32.760 --> 0:24:35.320 a pretty funny account. So they threw a big party yesterday. 0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:38.560 It's interesting because last year there were companies like Patreon. 0:24:39.119 --> 0:24:41.560 The membership platform for fans and creators who had a 0:24:41.600 --> 0:24:43.560 big event. I don't think they have a big presence 0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:45.960 this year. So I think a lot of startups are 0:24:46.040 --> 0:24:49.800 just feeling kind of the change in the economy and 0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:53.240 they're they're not really spending the dollars as much as 0:24:53.280 --> 0:24:55.040 last year, but they're certainly our creators here. 0:24:55.640 --> 0:24:59.200 Did you just say that a meme account raised twenty how. 0:24:59.160 --> 0:25:01.760 Much more than twenty million dollars last year? 0:25:01.880 --> 0:25:02.240 Correct? 0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:05.000 Twenty million dollars for memes. This is the stuff that 0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:07.159 we're talking about that you scroll through on Instagram and 0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:09.399 it looks like it's sort of hacked together by someone, 0:25:09.920 --> 0:25:12.280 and these are these are business. This is a big 0:25:12.320 --> 0:25:14.840 business behind this. I've never heard of this company doingthings 0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:16.280 dot com this. 0:25:16.160 --> 0:25:19.200 Is media, yeah, oh doing things? Yeah, this is wild. 0:25:19.600 --> 0:25:21.199 Oh my gosh. 0:25:21.359 --> 0:25:24.280 Yes, there was an Instagram fame. It's Corky at the 0:25:24.280 --> 0:25:26.760 event yesterday as well. Who has one million followers on 0:25:26.880 --> 0:25:30.520 Instagram name vaccine. So okay, well that celebrity. 0:25:29.960 --> 0:25:31.640 Sighting that I get. 0:25:31.720 --> 0:25:34.199 I mean, I get the fact that these animals on Instagram. 0:25:34.200 --> 0:25:37.760 I mean, look Instagram. Now hold on about this whole thing, though, 0:25:37.800 --> 0:25:44.360 I've got this article about about Instagram pausing their reels 0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:45.200 play bonus. 0:25:45.800 --> 0:25:47.000 So have you heard that? 0:25:47.320 --> 0:25:49.600 And you know this is basically if you've saw a 0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:53.480 lot of reels on your Instagram feed, it's because they 0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:56.919 were paying creators a bonus for doing these things. And 0:25:56.960 --> 0:25:58.760 that bonus at the beginning was a lot, and then 0:25:58.800 --> 0:26:00.760 of course it became less and less as we went on. 0:26:01.200 --> 0:26:03.080 But now they're going to say they're not going to 0:26:03.080 --> 0:26:04.879 do this anymore over the next thirty days are kind 0:26:04.920 --> 0:26:05.840 of like sunsetting it. 0:26:06.080 --> 0:26:07.600 Do you think that will have an impact at all? 0:26:08.800 --> 0:26:10.520 Yeah, I mean we've seen this kind of pull back 0:26:10.520 --> 0:26:13.000 across the board. I mean, these tech companies saw such 0:26:13.160 --> 0:26:16.680 rich engagement during pandemic lockdowns. They were trying to rival 0:26:16.760 --> 0:26:19.200 the rise of TikTok. So a lot of these platforms, 0:26:19.200 --> 0:26:22.200 not just Instagram, rolled out all sorts of cash incentives 0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:24.720 for creators. But you know, now these companies are laying 0:26:24.720 --> 0:26:28.000 off workers and they're not as flush with cast they're 0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:30.800 not able to make those investments. So, you know, I 0:26:30.840 --> 0:26:34.080 think these programs were always a nice bonus for creators 0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:36.080 and it was nice to be able to get that cash, 0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:38.480 but creators know that they can't rely on those programs 0:26:38.520 --> 0:26:41.080 because they come and go. I think what's been most 0:26:41.080 --> 0:26:45.520 reliable is partnerships with brands as well as YouTube has 0:26:45.600 --> 0:26:47.640 you know, long been kind of the leader in terms 0:26:47.680 --> 0:26:50.200 of directly making money from a platform through their ad 0:26:50.240 --> 0:26:53.320 revenue sharing. So I do think it's it's obviously going 0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:55.840 to have a hit on creators' earnings, but I think 0:26:56.840 --> 0:26:59.280 the creators who are really savvy know that they have 0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:01.359 to just take adage of the cash when it's there. 0:27:01.800 --> 0:27:06.160 And at the same time, YouTube just unleashed shorts revenue, 0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:08.760 so you creators for the first time are making money 0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:10.760 based on ads on their shorts. So that's a good 0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:11.200 thing there. 0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:15.280 Yeah, and YouTube actually used to have a fund for 0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:17.720 sports and they moved to the ad revenue sharing model, 0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:20.040 so we make the Instagram go that route as well. 0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:24.320 All right, Kaya Yurif. How can folks find you? 0:27:24.320 --> 0:27:26.280 You can find me on Twitter at k Urif and 0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:28.640 you can also subscribe to my newsletter at the Information 0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:29.720 about the Creator Economy. 0:27:29.880 --> 0:27:32.000 All right, you're gonna get some barbecue while you're down there. 0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:33.480 Oh absolutely. 0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:36.159 I wonder if they're doing like vegan barbecue. I mean, 0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:38.160 you get to you know, you gotta please everyone. 0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:39.920 Right, totally. I'm further. 0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:43.960 But you're not doing that one. That's I just be curious. 0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:46.400 I'm not that I'm vegan, but I just be curious, 0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:46.840 you know. 0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:50.040 Yeah, barbecue for me, all. 0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:51.760 Right, get some good stuff, all right, Thanks so much 0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:54.800 for joining me here on the show. All right, coming 0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:57.720 up Southwest, south by Southwest just one of my favorite 0:27:57.840 --> 0:28:00.000 Austin in general, just one of my favorite cities. 0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:01.560 I don't even know why I said the vegan thing. 0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:04.240 I probably just upset a lot of people because when 0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:08.520 you're going to Austin barbecue, you're not really thinking about 0:28:08.600 --> 0:28:11.080 getting vegan barbecue. But I'm just saying I'm curious. I 0:28:11.640 --> 0:28:13.439 you know, there's so many new things happening. I mean, 0:28:13.440 --> 0:28:15.040 look at the like the milks that you can get 0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:16.480 in your coffee. Right you go there and there's like 0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:18.280 a list of like one hundred different milks you can 0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:22.400 get now, made from everything from oats to almonds and bananas. 0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:25.080 So anyway, I was just curious. Don't don't send me 0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:27.280 the hate mail, all right. Phone lines are open at 0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:29.800 triple eight Rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight 0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:32.360 seven four to two four to one zero one. 0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:33.439 My name is rich Dmiro. 0:28:33.640 --> 0:28:37.159 You are listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to 0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:40.800 rich on Tech. My name is rich Dmiro, tech reporter 0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:44.080 at KTLA Channel five in Los Angeles. 0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:46.920 Every week in the show, I talk. 0:28:46.760 --> 0:28:49.120 About some of the things that I've posted to my 0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:51.440 social media and this. 0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:52.840 Week, let's see did I do a lot? 0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:56.360 Oh? Yeah, I did so I posted, Uh, let's see 0:28:56.360 --> 0:28:58.720 I've got at rich on Tech is where you can 0:28:58.720 --> 0:29:02.680 find me on Instagram. Posted some pictures from my trip 0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:06.400 to Vegas I talked about earlier. Oh you gotta see this, 0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:08.400 I posted. I'm We're gonna talk a little bit later 0:29:08.480 --> 0:29:12.680 about this car, but the Lucid Air EV. So this 0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:15.720 Lucid car you've probably started just started seeing them on 0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:18.920 the streets if you live anywhere in California. Maybe not elsewhere, 0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:23.959 but it is an incredible EV that's very high end. 0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:25.720 So this one I drove was like over one hundred 0:29:25.760 --> 0:29:28.880 thousand dollars, So we're talking luxury EV. This is not 0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:32.960 for everyone, believe me, but it'd be nice, that's for sure. 0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:34.160 So I've got a video. 0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:37.160 They took us in this car and we went zero 0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:40.760 to sixty in about three zero point four seconds. And 0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:43.480 I'm not kidding. I was not prepared for that at all, 0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:48.240 like really not prepared, and so this captures the reality 0:29:48.280 --> 0:29:52.000 of my reaction, which I've never seen me react like 0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:55.280 this to anything, so you can check that out. I 0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:57.800 also every time it rains in Los Angeles, I post 0:29:57.840 --> 0:30:01.040 the same exact video of me in this get up. 0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:02.720 It's a pod. 0:30:03.000 --> 0:30:05.440 It's called the walking Pod, and it looks like a 0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:11.600 giant wearable hamper. And we recorded this video three years 0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:13.920 ago at this point, maybe four years ago at this point, 0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:17.080 and it went viral and every time I post it, 0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:22.600 it still goes again, every single time. So I posted 0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:24.640 a new kind of clip of just me walking down 0:30:24.680 --> 0:30:26.040 the street in this thing, so you can see how 0:30:26.080 --> 0:30:28.200 silly I look. And then of course I posted some 0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:31.480 pictures from the week in review. Let me tell you 0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:34.240 about Facebook. By the way, if you're trying to call in, 0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:36.360 I believe it looks like we had a little bit 0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:38.560 of an issue with that in case you couldn't tell. 0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:41.440 But if you're trying to call in, I think it 0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:43.480 all seems to be resolved at this point. Kim is 0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:46.480 standing by waiting for your call at triple eight rich 0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:49.920 one oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four to two, 0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:52.600 four to one zero one. I'd blame it on the 0:30:52.640 --> 0:30:55.160 time change, but that hasn't happened yet, so we'll see 0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:58.320 what happens next week. I know I'm always a little 0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:00.560 off with that time change, so maybe the lines we're 0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:04.920 just sleepy today. Facebook making a major change. They put 0:31:04.920 --> 0:31:07.360 out this blog post this week saying, hey, contrary to 0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:09.080 popular reports, we're not dying. 0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:09.880 We're not dead. 0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:13.360 In fact, we've got two billion people using our service 0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:17.080 every single day. People are using Facebook for more than 0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:19.600 just connecting with friends and family, but also to discover 0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:23.400 and engage what's important to them, which is true. I'd 0:31:23.400 --> 0:31:26.080 probably agree with that. I think that I've seen even 0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:28.720 on my Facebook feed that they are using a lot 0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:31.959 more AI to kind of figure out what goes in 0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:34.640 that feed. You don't realize that these tech companies are 0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:37.480 scanning everything you're uploading. So even you know, back in 0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:40.480 the day of Instagram, you would put hashtags on things, 0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:44.120 those are almost not even necessary because Facebook and Instagram 0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:47.040 know more about what you're in TikTok and Twitter. They 0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:49.280 know more about what you're posting about than we do. 0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:54.520 They're scanning your images, they're scanning your videos, They're slicing 0:31:54.560 --> 0:31:57.280 and dicing to figure out exactly what content is in 0:31:57.320 --> 0:32:00.200 there and then using that information to serve this up 0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:01.760 to other people. They're not doing it to be nice 0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:04.760 to you. They're doing it for the benefit of their platform, 0:32:04.840 --> 0:32:07.440 because the more people that interact with things that people post, 0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:10.320 the better. And if you post something really interesting it 0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:12.959 just happens to be a video of a waterfall and 0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:15.640 you don't say anything about it, they know, okay, we're 0:32:15.640 --> 0:32:17.440 going to show this to people that like pictures of 0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:20.479 waterfalls in Hawaii and you didn't even have to say anything. 0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:24.520 So Facebook is kind of doing it about face. I 0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:26.200 don't know if you remember this a couple of years ago, 0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:27.800 so back I had to look this up. It was 0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:30.960 like in two thousand. It was a while ago. I 0:32:31.000 --> 0:32:33.760 can't remember. It's twenty fourteen maybe that they said, you 0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:36.880 know what, We're gonna split off Facebook Messenger from the 0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:40.680 main Facebook app. And people went nuts, myself included, because 0:32:40.720 --> 0:32:42.760 I said, why why do we need a separate app 0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:44.880 for Facebook Messenger. It's so much easier to have it 0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:48.560 all built into one thing, And they did it. People 0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:52.800 downloaded Facebook Messenger. Facebook Messengers become very popular, but now 0:32:53.040 --> 0:32:56.000 Facebook is saying, you know what, We're going to rethink 0:32:56.040 --> 0:32:59.480 that little decision. We're now going to build messaging back 0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:02.200 into the main Facebook app. Wait what, why are they 0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:04.720 doing this? Well, they're doing this because of a little 0:33:04.720 --> 0:33:08.640 app called TikTok. And the reason they're doing this is 0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:12.040 because TikTok's really good at showing you stuff, videos that 0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:13.880 you want to see, or maybe you didn't want to see, 0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:17.720 or you just didn't even know existed. But the problem is, 0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:21.040 TikTok is not a very good social network. You may 0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:23.520 send those videos to your friends, but it's not in 0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:25.280 the same way that you can post it to your 0:33:25.280 --> 0:33:28.320 Facebook or to share it on Instagram. And so now 0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:30.600 Facebook is thinking, okay, this might be a pretty killer 0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:33.360 solution we have where people can watch stuff on our 0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:36.280 platform and also share it to their friends on our platform. 0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:40.680 And that is why they are now testing building messaging 0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:44.320 back into Instagram. So are back into Facebook. So don't 0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:46.640 be surprised if you log into Facebook and you get 0:33:46.640 --> 0:33:48.800 this little window that says, hey, did you know you 0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:51.800 can message in Facebook again? You're gonna say, wait, I'm confused. 0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:54.040 I thought I need a Facebook Messenger to do that. 0:33:54.240 --> 0:33:55.920 I thought they took it out of Facebook. Now they're 0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:58.840 putting it back in, So it's been long enough. I 0:33:58.880 --> 0:34:01.560 think it was twenty fourteen when they did that, so 0:34:01.600 --> 0:34:05.320 it's been a while. All right, let's take our first call. 0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:10.680 John is in mission viah John, you're on with. 0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:15.759 Rich Okay, thank you. I've got to go from Windows 0:34:15.920 --> 0:34:20.040 eight point one because it's at its EOL, so I'm 0:34:20.040 --> 0:34:22.400 going to have to go to either Windows ten or 0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:26.800 Windows eleven. I do very basic stuff on my computer, 0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:30.560 mostly financial stuff, and I was wondering which is going 0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:34.759 to be the easier operating system to use, either ten 0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:37.960 or eleven? Which one do you think is going to 0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:40.120 be better for me to use long term? 0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:41.960 What do you do on your computer? 0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:51.759 Mainly just email and then online access to my different accounts, 0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:56.200 and I'd like to do some scanning. 0:34:57.200 --> 0:34:59.240 Okay, oh scanning? Interesting? Okay? 0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:03.440 What about so you're most of what you're doing is 0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:07.520 happening inside a web browser, like email and all that. 0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:09.280 Kind of stuff and connecting tier counts. 0:35:09.560 --> 0:35:14.799 So I mean I've been running the Windows Live email program. 0:35:14.520 --> 0:35:16.640 Okay, So you're using that, okay, which is a nice 0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:19.279 email program. I think that's fine. It'll change a little 0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:22.560 bit when you get to new version of Windows. But 0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:27.000 here's what I'd recommend, So I'd say just skip over 0:35:27.040 --> 0:35:30.760 to Windows eleven. Windows eleven is pretty much a version 0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:33.720 of Windows ten. I think the biggest leap is going 0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:36.080 to this new software in general from Windows eight. I mean, 0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:39.560 Windows ten is a whole different kind of look and feel. 0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:43.279 So why go to Windows ten when it's going to 0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:45.480 be supported for a couple more years. You mentioned EOL 0:35:45.520 --> 0:35:49.080 that means end of life, so Windows eight means it's 0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:53.160 it's not getting active software updates. Windows ten will get 0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:58.520 software updates until October fourteenth, twenty twenty five. Windows eleven 0:35:58.760 --> 0:36:01.960 is pretty much the operating system, which is the one 0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:03.839 I'd go with. They just came out the big ol' 0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:06.840 update for it, so I say take the plunge, do 0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:10.040 the big update to Windows eleven. Learn the system, and 0:36:10.080 --> 0:36:14.000 it's gonna last for a long time because Windows eleven 0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:17.440 is very very new. So I would just skip to 0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:19.680 the eleven and not worry about the ten portion, because 0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:22.759 why learn something twice? Just learn it once? All right, 0:36:22.840 --> 0:36:24.960 John and Mission Viejo, thanks so much for calling today. 0:36:25.040 --> 0:36:27.200 Do appreciate it. Phone lines are open at Triple eight 0:36:27.320 --> 0:36:29.719 rich one on one eight eight eight seven four to 0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:33.279 two four one zero one. Coming up in the show, 0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:36.360 we're going to talk to John Faulkner of Clean Fleet Report. 0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:39.319 We're gonna talk EV's and his favorite evs right now, 0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:42.520 Plus in studio guest Jefferson. 0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:45.440 Graham is going to join me formerly of USA Today. 0:36:45.920 --> 0:36:48.680 He's going to talk about taking better pictures with your 0:36:48.719 --> 0:36:51.160 iPhone and all kinds of other stuff you're. 0:36:51.000 --> 0:36:53.880 Listening to rich on Tech. More of the show coming 0:36:53.960 --> 0:36:54.960 up after this. 0:36:55.800 --> 0:36:59.120 Welcome back to rich on Tech. My name is rich DeMuro, 0:36:59.239 --> 0:37:03.080 hanging out here talking technology with you at Triple eight 0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:06.879 rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four 0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:08.040 two four. 0:37:07.800 --> 0:37:09.000 To one zero one. 0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:13.160 I'll tell you about the new ring video doorbell in 0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:15.800 just a little bit, but first let's get to Richard 0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:17.560 in Georgia. 0:37:17.800 --> 0:37:19.080 Richard, I like your name. 0:37:19.080 --> 0:37:22.520 You're on with rich Hey, Rich great job. By the way, 0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:25.080 I've been listening to you since you took over for Leo. 0:37:25.239 --> 0:37:26.560 No thank you. Appreciate that. 0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:30.319 I've got a home studio and I'm looking to move 0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:34.160 my control room from the same room into another room 0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:37.360 for better sound isolation. That way I can hear the 0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:40.320 audio coming through the gear and not you know, physically 0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:43.440 in person. But obviously I don't want to cut a 0:37:43.440 --> 0:37:45.480 hole in the wall between the two bedrooms. That's not 0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:49.000 very good for reseal all that, you know, resell of 0:37:49.040 --> 0:37:49.440 the house. 0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:52.000 But well, how long are you gonna stay here? I 0:37:52.000 --> 0:37:55.760 mean maybe maybe this is a long term plan, right. 0:37:55.920 --> 0:38:01.200 Well, at least a few years. But I was wondering 0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:04.040 if if there's like a digital solution for that. Maybe 0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:08.160 I was thinking maybe a march or on one side, 0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:10.160 monitor on the other in a camera. 0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:13.400 Yeah, that's one of them. That's that's that's a start. 0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:15.440 It's funny you say this because I went to my 0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:18.720 friend's house in the Las Vegas area, he's a musician, 0:38:19.320 --> 0:38:21.560 and he showed me he had done exactly what you're 0:38:21.560 --> 0:38:24.000 talking about, but he cut the hole in the wall. 0:38:24.160 --> 0:38:26.880 So he had a great setup. I mean it was 0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:29.880 a whole studio. He had all the little streaming cameras 0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:33.279 set up. Everything was was really really like slick. So 0:38:33.640 --> 0:38:35.920 I get it. The window is probably the best way 0:38:35.960 --> 0:38:38.080 to go. But if you don't want to do that, 0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:40.680 and you know the best the next best thing is 0:38:40.680 --> 0:38:41.440 to probably. 0:38:41.120 --> 0:38:42.000 Do some webcams. 0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:46.240 Okay, Yeah, it's funny because when I when I first 0:38:46.280 --> 0:38:49.680 got into the not radio business, but TV back in 0:38:49.719 --> 0:38:54.000 the day when I was a journalism student. I will 0:38:54.000 --> 0:38:57.479 never forget when they told us that the control room 0:38:58.080 --> 0:39:01.000 is not overlooking the studio. It was like, you know 0:39:01.000 --> 0:39:03.440 where I work at Katla, it's a whole different area. 0:39:03.560 --> 0:39:05.480 I mean, it's not in the same building. Well it 0:39:05.520 --> 0:39:07.920 used to not be, now it iss But the reality 0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:09.880 is that, yeah, you can do all kinds of stuff 0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:12.560 from anywhere now because of how good technology's gotten. So 0:39:13.960 --> 0:39:16.000 I just happened to be at the Spotify. I took 0:39:16.000 --> 0:39:19.279 a big, a big tour of the Spotify studios here 0:39:19.280 --> 0:39:23.400 in Los Angeles. They have an incredible facility and Richard, 0:39:23.440 --> 0:39:25.640 you would be you would love to see. 0:39:25.400 --> 0:39:27.759 These things, have to check that out. 0:39:28.040 --> 0:39:28.400 Awesome. 0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:30.960 But they showed me the studio where they do all 0:39:30.960 --> 0:39:33.440 the recordings for sort of like you know where artists 0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:35.640 come in. So I'm looking at some of my pictures here. 0:39:35.920 --> 0:39:38.120 They just have a whole bunch of instruments, just tons 0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:40.160 of instruments that people can choose from. So they come 0:39:40.160 --> 0:39:42.239 in there and they just pick something and they want 0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:43.680 them to be They actually said they want them to 0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:46.760 be different than what they typically use because that feeds 0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:50.160 the curiosity or the sorry, the creativity, right. 0:39:50.760 --> 0:39:53.319 Absolutely yeah, they get your brain going, it makes you 0:39:53.360 --> 0:39:55.160 think out of the box. Yeah, absolutely right. 0:39:55.160 --> 0:39:57.120 And now I'm looking, I'm looking at their studio and 0:39:57.160 --> 0:40:00.680 their control room does have windows overlooking the studio. Uh, 0:40:00.760 --> 0:40:06.160 they've got probably a giant panel of one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, Oh, 0:40:06.200 --> 0:40:09.040 probably about forty five what do they call mixer pots 0:40:09.120 --> 0:40:11.760 or something whatever boards? 0:40:11.840 --> 0:40:13.800 Yeah, the headphone mixers. 0:40:13.880 --> 0:40:15.839 Yeah, there's a lot of them there, so I don't 0:40:15.840 --> 0:40:18.839 know how extended. But but here's my point about all 0:40:18.880 --> 0:40:21.200 this is because here's what I learned. The term that 0:40:21.239 --> 0:40:23.520 I learned when I was there is called PTZ. 0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:24.799 Have you heard of that term? 0:40:25.880 --> 0:40:26.080 No? 0:40:26.480 --> 0:40:31.160 Okay, So that is a pan tilt and zoom. So 0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:34.840 a PTZ camera. As soon as you look this thing up, 0:40:34.960 --> 0:40:38.479 you will recognize it. This is pretty much what these 0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:41.560 studios are using, not only to live stream, but also 0:40:41.640 --> 0:40:43.760 you can use it to sort of monitor what's happening 0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:45.879 in there. So I think you can do dual use 0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:48.759 with this. But I would recommend taking a look at 0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:51.839 a couple of those and installing them very good. 0:40:51.880 --> 0:40:54.480 I didn't think about. Yeah, a control in the pan 0:40:54.560 --> 0:40:58.000 and zoom in in the tilt. That's great, that's a 0:40:58.000 --> 0:40:58.480 great idea. 0:40:58.600 --> 0:41:00.239 Yeah, because you could go you can go with a 0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:03.080 standard camera, but you know, without that move and it's 0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:05.360 just one big wide angle. But you know, why not, 0:41:05.480 --> 0:41:07.279 if you're gonna be building this thing out, why not 0:41:07.360 --> 0:41:09.560 spend a little bit more and get something that's more 0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:12.719 flexible that will enable you to either connect with the 0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:14.399 people that are in this studio a little bit more 0:41:14.719 --> 0:41:18.640 monitor them. If you want a really cheap solution, have 0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:22.840 you heard of the company whys Yes, So Whise makes 0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:26.719 a pan and tilt camera that's very inexpensive. I mean, 0:41:26.800 --> 0:41:29.960 let's let's see how much theirs is. It is there 0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:34.400 on version three of it. It is thirty three dollars 0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:37.759 and ninety nine cents. So if you want something very inexpensive, 0:41:37.880 --> 0:41:39.840 that's one way to go. But if you want to 0:41:39.840 --> 0:41:42.799 get one of the more expensive PTZ cameras, you know, 0:41:42.800 --> 0:41:45.320 I'm seeing them on I was just looking them up quickly, 0:41:45.360 --> 0:41:47.919 and there's you know, Best Buys got some for about 0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:49.000 four hundred bucks. 0:41:48.719 --> 0:41:49.359 But they go up. 0:41:49.520 --> 0:41:51.600 They can get up pretty expensive, so they can go 0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:53.640 up to a couple thousand. But that's that's probably what 0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:55.719 I recommend and maybe get like a you know, while 0:41:55.760 --> 0:41:57.719 you're while you're at it, get you know, like a 0:41:57.800 --> 0:42:00.520 zoom set up, Like maybe put one of these monitors 0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:02.480 in the corner that people can zoom in so that 0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:04.960 way you can just connect they can see your face, 0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:07.920 you know, over the zoom. But there's a lot you 0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:09.600 can do here. I mean, all this stuff is off 0:42:09.600 --> 0:42:12.200 the shelf and very much doable, and people are doing 0:42:12.200 --> 0:42:14.839 this every day, So I think that it's just a 0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:17.799 matter of kind of figuring out what you want the capabilities, 0:42:17.800 --> 0:42:19.640 and just having fun with it. 0:42:19.840 --> 0:42:22.160 Very cool. I appreciate that it's a lot of great 0:42:22.160 --> 0:42:26.040 information and I look forward to checking out some more 0:42:26.040 --> 0:42:28.440 out in the LA area once I get back out 0:42:28.440 --> 0:42:30.640 to California. Awesome and to longin it's been out there. 0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:32.640 Yeah, ring me up and we'll see if we can 0:42:32.680 --> 0:42:34.680 get back into the Spotify studios, see if they'll let 0:42:34.760 --> 0:42:37.399 me back in once. Once these companies, once they let 0:42:37.440 --> 0:42:39.200 you out, they kind of like close the door behind 0:42:39.239 --> 0:42:42.120 you and they're like, Okay, we'll see you never again. No, 0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:47.400 I'm just kidding, right, especially since I worked for iHeart, 0:42:47.440 --> 0:42:50.160 So we'll see anyway, all right, Richard, thanks so much 0:42:50.200 --> 0:42:50.879 for joining me today. 0:42:50.880 --> 0:42:51.480 Appreciate it. 0:42:52.200 --> 0:42:52.600 Thank you. 0:42:52.680 --> 0:42:53.800 All right, have a good one. 0:42:53.920 --> 0:42:55.560 All right, let me tell you about the speaking of 0:42:55.640 --> 0:42:57.479 video cameras, let me tell you about the new Ring 0:42:57.760 --> 0:43:04.240 Video doorbell, so brand new battery doorbell Plus. It's called 0:43:04.800 --> 0:43:07.160 I think Ring has way too many video doorbells at 0:43:07.160 --> 0:43:09.719 this point. You go to their website and you're just like, 0:43:10.000 --> 0:43:12.320 which one do I get? Because there are so many. 0:43:12.680 --> 0:43:15.440 There used to be one Ring video doorbell. Now there 0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:18.319 is a lineup of all different types, some plug in, 0:43:18.840 --> 0:43:22.080 some are battery, some are new, some have higher resolution. 0:43:22.719 --> 0:43:27.200 But the battery doorbell Plus is pretty much their standard 0:43:27.840 --> 0:43:30.960 selection video doorbell. It's a little higher end, so it 0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:33.160 gives you some new features. The number one feature I 0:43:33.160 --> 0:43:35.560 think you're gonna like is that the battery life is 0:43:35.640 --> 0:43:39.880 up to three times better than the standard Ring video doorbell. 0:43:40.400 --> 0:43:43.759 Now they say the original, So now does that mean 0:43:44.280 --> 0:43:46.520 when the original came out like ten years ago? What 0:43:46.920 --> 0:43:48.640 do they mean by that? So I'm gonna have to 0:43:48.680 --> 0:43:51.440 test this and see just how much battery. I've got 0:43:51.480 --> 0:43:54.040 a Ring video doorbell with the battery, and I'm replacing 0:43:54.040 --> 0:43:58.640 the battery probably every I'd say, maybe every four months, 0:43:59.000 --> 0:44:01.239 and it doesn't lie as long as i'd like, but 0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:03.200 I do have two batteries, so I just swap them 0:44:03.200 --> 0:44:04.719 out and that makes life. By the way, a little 0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:07.799 pro tip, just swap them out so much easier. Just 0:44:07.840 --> 0:44:09.920 go on the Ring website. If you've got one of 0:44:09.920 --> 0:44:12.680 these video doorbells that you're swapping the battery and you're 0:44:12.680 --> 0:44:14.719 taking the battery out and you're charging it and you're 0:44:14.719 --> 0:44:17.080 putting it back in, just just buy a secondary battery 0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:19.680 and keep that one charging and then you can just 0:44:19.719 --> 0:44:21.560 swap them out and that way you're never without your 0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:25.360 your video doorbell. So this is their first doorbell launch 0:44:25.440 --> 0:44:28.960 in two years. The biggest difference you're gonna notice with 0:44:29.000 --> 0:44:32.440 the video is that it has a brand new viewing 0:44:32.480 --> 0:44:34.880 angle one hundred and fifty degrees by one hundred and 0:44:35.000 --> 0:44:37.719 fifty degrees field of view, so it's a one to 0:44:37.760 --> 0:44:40.280 one aspect ratio, so it's not like sixteen by nine. 0:44:40.520 --> 0:44:42.400 I think the Google one is more like that. But 0:44:42.840 --> 0:44:44.920 this will give you a head to toe view of 0:44:44.960 --> 0:44:47.840 your visitors, which is kind of cool. Then also you 0:44:47.880 --> 0:44:50.719 can see if you have a package at your front door. 0:44:50.760 --> 0:44:53.640 Because the field of view is so wide, up and 0:44:53.719 --> 0:44:56.120 down and left and right, you can see the floor, 0:44:56.239 --> 0:44:58.960 so that's really handy because that's something that was greatly 0:44:59.000 --> 0:45:04.800 missing in the Ring video doorbells from yesteryear. The resolution 0:45:05.160 --> 0:45:08.399 is also better. It's got the highest HD resolution of 0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:14.480 any battery doorbell at fifteen thirty six p, so it's 0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:18.760 a decent resolution. It's probably you know, it's pretty reasonable. 0:45:18.760 --> 0:45:21.080 So that's that's very good because sometimes people talk about 0:45:21.080 --> 0:45:24.400 how the resolution of these video doorbells just isn't very good. 0:45:24.719 --> 0:45:27.640 So fifteen thirty six will will provide a pretty good 0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:30.239 view of what's happening there. And it does have color 0:45:30.360 --> 0:45:33.759 night vision as well. So how much this is one 0:45:33.800 --> 0:45:36.759 hundred and seventy nine dollars. It will start shipping on 0:45:36.840 --> 0:45:40.040 April fifth. I will tell you this may be enough 0:45:40.080 --> 0:45:42.560 for me to update my Ring video doorbell. It's been 0:45:43.120 --> 0:45:45.640 been a while since I got one, and so I 0:45:45.719 --> 0:45:48.879 think that this is probably about time to do it. 0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:50.839 One hundred and eighty dollars. The only thing I would 0:45:50.880 --> 0:45:54.920 caution you on is paying full price. Ring products like 0:45:55.000 --> 0:45:58.320 Amazon products, because they're owned by Amazon, they do typically 0:45:58.360 --> 0:46:02.040 go on sale one, two, maybe three times a year, 0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:06.279 so I would wait until one of those things goes 0:46:06.320 --> 0:46:08.919 on sale. One of those special days they have. Usually 0:46:08.920 --> 0:46:13.160 it's around a holiday, obviously during Prime Day, but I 0:46:13.200 --> 0:46:15.879 would wait one hundred and eighty bucks. Still decent deal, 0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:17.600 but I think you can get it for cheaper. I 0:46:17.640 --> 0:46:19.919 think you could probably get that price down to maybe 0:46:19.960 --> 0:46:23.280 fifty dollars less than that. So something'll look out for 0:46:23.280 --> 0:46:29.280 for sure. Google Io happening in person May tenth. 0:46:29.360 --> 0:46:30.160 What does that mean? 0:46:30.239 --> 0:46:35.359 Google Io is Google's big, big developers conference. I've been 0:46:35.360 --> 0:46:37.440 to this many many times. It's one of my favorites 0:46:37.480 --> 0:46:40.399 of the year because they pretty much show you all 0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:42.440 the cool stuff they've been working on at Google. And 0:46:42.560 --> 0:46:46.040 this year should be very exciting because we're going to 0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:47.960 see their new AI. I think they're gonna wait to 0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:51.680 show us barred in a big way until Google Io 0:46:51.680 --> 0:46:53.400 comes out on May tenth, so I. 0:46:53.480 --> 0:46:54.040 Will be there. 0:46:54.280 --> 0:46:57.200 This is happening in Mountain View, California, Shoreline Amphitheater. It's 0:46:57.239 --> 0:47:00.360 a limited live audience, but I was lucky and I 0:47:00.360 --> 0:47:02.680 got an invite from Google, so I will definitely be 0:47:02.719 --> 0:47:05.760 taking advantage of that. Love I'd love the Google stuff. 0:47:05.800 --> 0:47:08.640 These Googlers are just so nerdy and fun. They're like 0:47:08.719 --> 0:47:10.879 my people, you know. I just love chatting with them, 0:47:10.920 --> 0:47:13.279 I can be like, hey, answer me this question about 0:47:13.280 --> 0:47:15.520 how Android auto works. Like you get to talk to 0:47:15.560 --> 0:47:18.319 the actual engineers that program this stuff. And so for 0:47:18.400 --> 0:47:21.000 me that's always a delight because there's only so much 0:47:21.000 --> 0:47:22.520 you can get by looking at the stuff they put 0:47:22.560 --> 0:47:23.880 online or playing with yourself. 0:47:24.719 --> 0:47:26.680 Other things expected. 0:47:26.239 --> 0:47:29.680 To be seen at Google Io twenty twenty three Pixel 0:47:29.719 --> 0:47:33.760 seven a that is going to be an inexpensive pixel device. 0:47:34.160 --> 0:47:36.879 Also the Pixel tablet, that's exciting because we haven't seen 0:47:36.880 --> 0:47:39.840 a good Android tablet in a while. And maybe even 0:47:39.880 --> 0:47:43.160 the Pixel fold their foldable phone, and maybe a pixel 0:47:43.239 --> 0:47:46.440 tracker as well. And of course Android fourteen they'll probably 0:47:46.480 --> 0:47:47.439 show off that too. 0:47:48.080 --> 0:47:49.000 All right, coming up on. 0:47:48.960 --> 0:47:52.319 The show, we're going to talk about evs. Plus what 0:47:52.400 --> 0:47:53.959 else do I have going on here? Oh, we're gonna 0:47:53.960 --> 0:47:56.040 talk about spring break apps. I've been testing a bunch 0:47:56.040 --> 0:47:58.040 of them. So I told you about flighty earlier. I've 0:47:58.080 --> 0:48:00.439 got plenty more where that came from. Be a call 0:48:00.480 --> 0:48:03.240 triple eight rich one on one eight eight eight seven 0:48:03.320 --> 0:48:05.319 four to two four to one zero one. 0:48:05.600 --> 0:48:07.560 You're listening to rich on Tech. 0:48:08.560 --> 0:48:12.680 Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging 0:48:12.719 --> 0:48:16.040 out with you on a well, you know, some of 0:48:16.040 --> 0:48:18.040 you are listening live, some of your listening later. So 0:48:18.120 --> 0:48:20.359 I'm just hanging out with you eight eight eight rich 0:48:20.480 --> 0:48:23.359 one oh one eight eight eight seven four to two, 0:48:23.719 --> 0:48:25.960 four to one zero one. I usually do some feedback 0:48:26.000 --> 0:48:28.560 at the end of the show, but since Bob just 0:48:28.640 --> 0:48:32.279 emailed me and said, great job on your show, but 0:48:32.400 --> 0:48:36.160 one suggestion, since you're broadcasting nationwide to people who may 0:48:36.239 --> 0:48:40.239 or may not know California cities, instead of saying Chatsworth 0:48:40.320 --> 0:48:42.960 or call from Northridge, you might want to add California. 0:48:43.280 --> 0:48:46.600 Just a suggestion. Thanks for all you do fun stuff. 0:48:47.040 --> 0:48:50.080 Uh, you know this is so interesting, Bob, because this 0:48:50.160 --> 0:48:54.520 is I struggle with this also on KTLA because I'm 0:48:54.680 --> 0:48:58.040 i mean very LA centric, right, like I am located 0:48:58.040 --> 0:49:01.600 in Los Angeles. The show broadcast Los Angeles, both KTLA 0:49:01.640 --> 0:49:06.480 and this show. But you're right, my KTLA segment goes nationwide, 0:49:06.600 --> 0:49:09.640 and so does this show, and so there's always that 0:49:09.800 --> 0:49:14.680 line of making sure people are comfortable understanding what you're 0:49:14.680 --> 0:49:17.680 talking about, where you're coming from, what you're doing, and 0:49:17.719 --> 0:49:21.640 so on KTLA it's become you know, sometimes if there's 0:49:21.680 --> 0:49:25.760 a city I'm referencing in a story that people outside 0:49:25.840 --> 0:49:28.759 Los Angeles may not know. I say we went to 0:49:30.080 --> 0:49:34.120 San Bernardino, California, and people in Los Angeles are watching 0:49:34.160 --> 0:49:36.000 my story saying, wait, why is Rich saying. 0:49:35.840 --> 0:49:37.120 San Bernardino, California? 0:49:37.120 --> 0:49:39.920 Like, I know San Bernardino, I live right here, but 0:49:40.040 --> 0:49:42.879 people that are watching in other cities like Chicago or 0:49:43.120 --> 0:49:46.960 Honolulu may not know those places. So I agree that 0:49:47.040 --> 0:49:48.799 is definitely something I need to get better at, and 0:49:48.880 --> 0:49:51.640 I will do that for sure, because I take for 0:49:51.680 --> 0:49:53.440 granted I think if I say Phoenix, I don't know 0:49:53.440 --> 0:49:55.680 if I need to say Arizona. But if it's a 0:49:55.719 --> 0:49:59.440 smaller city somewhere, maybe I'll just do that anyway. All right, 0:49:59.480 --> 0:50:02.560 So I was only about Vegas earlier, and I kind 0:50:02.560 --> 0:50:04.919 of want to continue that conversation because there was more 0:50:04.960 --> 0:50:08.640 I had, more I had thoughts on. So I was 0:50:08.640 --> 0:50:10.840 talking about how my wife and I went to Vegas 0:50:10.920 --> 0:50:13.680 over the weekend. We didn't really do much except just 0:50:13.760 --> 0:50:17.279 kind of enjoy you know, eating out, dinner and just 0:50:17.400 --> 0:50:21.160 kind of shopping whatever. Not a huge gambler, but you know, 0:50:21.200 --> 0:50:23.600 I do like playing some of these machines the kind 0:50:23.600 --> 0:50:26.040 of fun. Sometimes I'm not going to spend a lot 0:50:26.080 --> 0:50:28.000 of money on them because to me, it's you know, 0:50:28.040 --> 0:50:30.880 I'd rather buy something with my money, but it's still fun. 0:50:31.480 --> 0:50:35.439 But one thing I noticed is that the digitizing of 0:50:35.680 --> 0:50:40.400 Vegas is really happening in a very fast way. And 0:50:40.560 --> 0:50:42.759 I mentioned earlier how when I first started going to Vegas, 0:50:42.800 --> 0:50:45.040 they actually had people that would give out change. There'd 0:50:45.040 --> 0:50:48.480 be people walking around these little carts that would change 0:50:48.520 --> 0:50:50.440 your money. You would take a twenty dollars bill and 0:50:50.440 --> 0:50:52.799 you'd get nickels in a role. 0:50:53.160 --> 0:50:54.960 I mean this is going back many many. 0:50:54.840 --> 0:50:57.920 Years, but used to actually put coins in a machine 0:50:57.960 --> 0:51:02.239 in Las Vegas, which nowadays is just so not the 0:51:02.280 --> 0:51:05.120 thing you put money in. And we used to sit 0:51:05.160 --> 0:51:08.239 there and play a nickel slot for an hour on 0:51:08.560 --> 0:51:11.920 five ten bucks. And now, of course people feed twenties 0:51:11.960 --> 0:51:16.719 and hundreds into these machines. But the slot machines are 0:51:17.120 --> 0:51:20.520 really getting high tech. I mean bigger and bigger and bigger. 0:51:20.520 --> 0:51:22.960 Every time I go. I think at the Venetian wherever 0:51:23.000 --> 0:51:25.400 I was, they're gonna have to open up the ceiling 0:51:25.440 --> 0:51:28.399 because some of these machines are getting so large three 0:51:28.480 --> 0:51:31.600 D screens, the sound effects. The other thing I noticed 0:51:31.640 --> 0:51:33.840 is that all of these table games that used to 0:51:33.920 --> 0:51:38.279 have dealers sitting there are now digital And so we 0:51:38.360 --> 0:51:41.920 went to the Paris Casino in Las Vegas and they 0:51:41.960 --> 0:51:44.800 had this entire almost it looked like a nightclub area 0:51:45.239 --> 0:51:49.719 where it was three dealers on a stage. One was 0:51:49.760 --> 0:51:52.680 doing craps, one was doing blackjack, one was doing roulette, 0:51:52.760 --> 0:51:55.560 but they were also sort of dancers and DJs at 0:51:55.560 --> 0:51:59.600 the same time. So they're literally spinning music, spinning the 0:51:59.680 --> 0:52:04.120 roulette table, and everyone that's playing is playing on a 0:52:04.239 --> 0:52:07.400 digital screen at a seat in front of them. So 0:52:07.480 --> 0:52:11.600 imagine a little mini auditorium where it's kind of real 0:52:11.880 --> 0:52:13.480 and kind of digital. 0:52:13.600 --> 0:52:14.320 It was a mix. 0:52:14.440 --> 0:52:16.400 That was the first time I've ever seen that, and 0:52:16.480 --> 0:52:19.160 I saw that theme at various other hotels. It wasn't 0:52:19.239 --> 0:52:22.320 just the Paris. I also saw that happening at Caesar's 0:52:22.920 --> 0:52:25.200 and in general, I've just seen a lot more of 0:52:25.239 --> 0:52:29.680 these games that were traditionally table games becoming digital. 0:52:30.920 --> 0:52:31.080 Now. 0:52:31.080 --> 0:52:33.120 As a tech person, I thought when they had USB 0:52:33.320 --> 0:52:35.920 charging ports on the slot machines, that was cool until 0:52:35.960 --> 0:52:39.200 I realized the security implications of that, and I'm not 0:52:39.200 --> 0:52:42.760 a big fan. So now they have switched to wireless charging, 0:52:42.800 --> 0:52:44.480 so while you're sitting there at a slot machine, you 0:52:44.480 --> 0:52:47.520 can just put your phone down and it will wirelessly charge. 0:52:47.680 --> 0:52:53.279 The other thing that I'm seeing is the idea of 0:52:53.480 --> 0:52:55.279 back in the day, you were not allowed to take 0:52:55.320 --> 0:52:57.520 pictures in a casino, or it was frowned upon. Like 0:52:57.560 --> 0:53:00.640 I specifically remember when we first started having cell phones 0:53:00.640 --> 0:53:03.040 and casinos, they were just like no, no, no, can't take pictures. 0:53:03.320 --> 0:53:05.759 And now, of course there's selfie stations, which is a 0:53:05.760 --> 0:53:09.879 whole other thing. So it's just the changes that are 0:53:09.920 --> 0:53:13.960 happening are happening rapidly, and if you're not watching them, 0:53:14.120 --> 0:53:16.439 you may not realize just how much of these things 0:53:16.440 --> 0:53:17.040 are changing. 0:53:17.360 --> 0:53:17.600 Now. 0:53:17.640 --> 0:53:20.680 As a tech person, I find it very fascinating to 0:53:20.680 --> 0:53:24.440 just watch this digital transformation of almost every industry and 0:53:24.480 --> 0:53:28.040 in Vegas and almost everywhere. It's like we are doing 0:53:28.080 --> 0:53:31.040 more and more on our own. It's much more self 0:53:31.080 --> 0:53:34.760 service no matter what you're doing these days, and it's 0:53:34.760 --> 0:53:38.000 almost like tech creep right where it's just it's creeping 0:53:38.120 --> 0:53:40.160 up on us and we don't really realize that it's 0:53:40.160 --> 0:53:43.160 all just changing very quickly. So I mentioned these spring 0:53:43.200 --> 0:53:45.279 Break travel apps. I tested a bunch. I put a 0:53:45.320 --> 0:53:48.080 piece on KTLA last week. I tested a whole bunch 0:53:48.080 --> 0:53:49.920 of apps and here's the ones that I would recommend. 0:53:49.960 --> 0:53:52.879 All right, So first off, if you need some help 0:53:52.920 --> 0:53:56.040 with packing, the app is called pack point, So you 0:53:56.120 --> 0:53:58.279 put in some details about your trip, where you're going, 0:53:58.360 --> 0:54:00.880 It looks at the weather and it just a list 0:54:01.000 --> 0:54:04.040 based on the activities and whether where you're going. And 0:54:04.080 --> 0:54:06.799 so that's called packpoint, and it's just a nice thing 0:54:06.800 --> 0:54:10.040 if you're always forgetting something when you pack. Tripsy so 0:54:10.080 --> 0:54:11.800 a lot of people like this app called trip it, 0:54:11.880 --> 0:54:14.680 which puts an itinerate together for your travel. Tripsy is 0:54:14.719 --> 0:54:17.520 a little bit more consumer oriented, and what I love 0:54:17.560 --> 0:54:20.399 about it is once you put everything in there, then 0:54:20.640 --> 0:54:22.920 you can share it with friends and families. You can 0:54:22.960 --> 0:54:26.120 share your whole itinerary. Now, when it comes to hotels, 0:54:26.239 --> 0:54:28.279 you got to check out Google Hotels to see if 0:54:28.320 --> 0:54:32.200 there's any cheap dates for where you're going. They will 0:54:32.239 --> 0:54:35.160 mark things as deals because Google has so much data. 0:54:35.239 --> 0:54:37.360 So definitely go to Google Hotels if you have not 0:54:37.480 --> 0:54:40.400 done that. You gotta be careful though, because sometimes they 0:54:40.400 --> 0:54:43.400 will lead you to some sort of random hotel sites 0:54:43.400 --> 0:54:45.080 that you don't want to book on, so just be careful. 0:54:45.560 --> 0:54:48.160 And I also mentioned Flighty that is a beautiful flight 0:54:48.239 --> 0:54:48.839 tracking app. 0:54:48.840 --> 0:54:49.600 On iOS. 0:54:49.680 --> 0:54:52.600 But if you're on Android, check out an app called 0:54:52.640 --> 0:54:55.400 flight Aware. I love flight Aware because it gives you 0:54:55.560 --> 0:54:58.160 really good flight alerts, especially if you have someone that's 0:54:58.200 --> 0:55:00.600 coming into town. Flight Aware will help you know when 0:55:00.600 --> 0:55:03.680 they take off, when they land, baggage, all that good stuff. 0:55:03.920 --> 0:55:06.000 I've got this all linked up on my website at 0:55:06.160 --> 0:55:10.120 Richontech dot TV. Coming up, we're gonna talk evs. You're 0:55:10.120 --> 0:55:16.560 listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. 0:55:16.680 --> 0:55:20.600 Rich DeMuro here talkin technology at triple eight Rich one 0:55:20.640 --> 0:55:23.799 oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four to two, 0:55:24.239 --> 0:55:28.040 four to one zero one. So this week had a 0:55:28.040 --> 0:55:33.200 little fun with a EV called the Lucid. Lucid is 0:55:33.280 --> 0:55:39.640 a new car company that is building luxury evs, and 0:55:39.680 --> 0:55:43.759 the one that I testdrove is the Lucid Air. And 0:55:44.080 --> 0:55:46.960 this isn't a car that's very expensive. Let me let 0:55:46.960 --> 0:55:49.359 me get the specs up here. We did the Touring edition. 0:55:49.480 --> 0:55:54.240 So this one hundred and seven thousand dollars, dual motor, 0:55:54.640 --> 0:55:58.439 six hundred and twenty horsepower, three point four seconds zero 0:55:58.520 --> 0:56:00.600 to sixty and by the way, the top of the 0:56:00.640 --> 0:56:04.000 line goes zero to sixty in two point six seconds 0:56:04.000 --> 0:56:07.120 with over a thousand horsepower. I am not a car guy, 0:56:07.560 --> 0:56:11.440 but a thousand horsepower seems pretty pretty intense. Even this 0:56:11.520 --> 0:56:16.759 six hundred and twenty was pretty intense. Battery is the 0:56:16.800 --> 0:56:18.799 thing about this company, and I think they're trying to 0:56:18.800 --> 0:56:23.880 take that Apple model is efficiency. So the battery compared 0:56:23.880 --> 0:56:26.920 to the software, they get about four hundred and twenty 0:56:26.960 --> 0:56:29.759 five miles to the charge and that's the big lead here. 0:56:30.400 --> 0:56:30.719 All right. 0:56:30.760 --> 0:56:32.920 So while I was up in Ventura, I talked to 0:56:32.960 --> 0:56:36.960 John Faulkner. He's a senior editor at clean Fleet Report. 0:56:37.040 --> 0:56:41.200 They talk all about EV's. Enjoy our conversation, Rich DeMuro 0:56:41.360 --> 0:56:46.600 here in Ventura, California, actually on a Lucid EV drive. 0:56:46.840 --> 0:56:49.839 So I'm testing out a new car called the Lucid Air. 0:56:50.400 --> 0:56:54.360 This is a very high end EV. Expensive but it's. 0:56:54.200 --> 0:56:57.000 Got a long range and it's really a luxury vehicle. 0:56:57.520 --> 0:56:59.719 Joining me on the trip is John Faulkner. He is 0:56:59.840 --> 0:57:03.680 the senior writer at cleanfleet Report dot com. 0:57:03.680 --> 0:57:06.920 He tests a lot of evs. John, thanks so much 0:57:06.920 --> 0:57:07.440 for joining me. 0:57:07.560 --> 0:57:10.400 Hey, Rich, fantastic all right, So what are your impressions 0:57:10.400 --> 0:57:14.040 of this Lucid First off, the first. 0:57:13.760 --> 0:57:16.520 Thing is that it's one of four models that they have, 0:57:17.200 --> 0:57:19.959 and they began with their first two models that were 0:57:20.000 --> 0:57:22.160 over one hundred thousand dollars and this one is at 0:57:22.240 --> 0:57:25.160 ninety two thousand dollars. Yes, it has a smaller battery, 0:57:25.960 --> 0:57:29.360 but you're still going to be getting several hundred miles 0:57:29.360 --> 0:57:34.160 in range. And we just drove it from Malibu through 0:57:34.200 --> 0:57:38.480 the mountains down here to Ventura and it handled extremely 0:57:38.480 --> 0:57:43.440 well on the on the twisties and using regenitive braking. 0:57:44.000 --> 0:57:46.360 I didn't touch the brakes on the whole time I 0:57:46.360 --> 0:57:47.240 went through the mountains. 0:57:47.440 --> 0:57:49.400 Oh wow, so you were just letting it kind of 0:57:49.760 --> 0:57:51.880 it kind of slows down. That's a new experience for 0:57:51.920 --> 0:57:53.720 a lot of folks if you haven't driven an EV. 0:57:54.160 --> 0:57:57.360 What's happening in that In that scenario. 0:57:57.440 --> 0:58:00.800 Whenever you lift off the accelerator, and with an EV 0:58:00.960 --> 0:58:05.960 you don't call it the gas pedal, it slows the motors. 0:58:06.040 --> 0:58:08.280 And when the motors are slowing or it comes to 0:58:08.360 --> 0:58:13.160 a stop, you are regenerating kinetic energy heat from the 0:58:13.240 --> 0:58:16.760 motor back into the battery. You can actually watch on 0:58:16.800 --> 0:58:20.600 the battery gauge. You can watch the you can watch 0:58:20.640 --> 0:58:22.160 the amount of charge rise. 0:58:22.440 --> 0:58:25.000 So you've been reviewing evs for a long time. 0:58:25.760 --> 0:58:28.760 Is there increased interest or is it at interest at 0:58:28.800 --> 0:58:30.320 all time highs at this point? 0:58:30.640 --> 0:58:34.240 Well, it certainly is. And I live in California, and 0:58:34.360 --> 0:58:40.440 California is the center for electric vehicles in the United States. 0:58:40.920 --> 0:58:43.840 And we have in this state the most robust built 0:58:43.880 --> 0:58:49.400 out charging network and then people are doing solar panels, 0:58:49.640 --> 0:58:53.560 people are putting level two chargers in their house, and 0:58:53.800 --> 0:58:59.960 so this state has really adopted electric vehicle propulsion. 0:59:00.920 --> 0:59:03.000 What if I live in another state, what what's the 0:59:03.040 --> 0:59:04.120 state of affairs there? 0:59:04.440 --> 0:59:08.680 Several states are getting into building out their infrastructure also, 0:59:09.400 --> 0:59:15.080 and the the current Inflation Reduction Act also called ira A, 0:59:16.600 --> 0:59:20.920 billions are going into building out the the electric charging 0:59:20.920 --> 0:59:24.600 infrastructure around the United States. But as far as individual 0:59:24.680 --> 0:59:27.440 states go, it really comes down to and I hate 0:59:27.480 --> 0:59:32.040 to say it, but it's politics, and some states don't 0:59:32.080 --> 0:59:33.800 want to believe in electric. 0:59:34.920 --> 0:59:35.440 Vehicles. 0:59:36.080 --> 0:59:38.280 There are actually a couple of states that say that 0:59:38.360 --> 0:59:41.600 they want to ban electric vehicles from being sold there. 0:59:42.000 --> 0:59:46.960 And so this is this is not a nationwide grasping 0:59:47.080 --> 0:59:54.280 of the technology. It certainly is along the coasts Oregon, Washington, California, Arizona, 0:59:55.720 --> 1:00:00.480 Texas has a has a large ev population U as 1:00:00.760 --> 1:00:01.960 as does the Northeast. 1:00:02.840 --> 1:00:05.480 So what are some of the benefits to evs versus 1:00:05.520 --> 1:00:06.840 the challenge of owning an EV. 1:00:08.160 --> 1:00:09.920 Well, the benefit is that every single time that you 1:00:10.040 --> 1:00:12.120 drive down the street, you drive by a gasoline station 1:00:12.200 --> 1:00:15.600 that has assigned five twenty five for gasoline, you can 1:00:15.880 --> 1:00:20.520 just say oh and off you go, so you don't stop. 1:00:20.920 --> 1:00:24.600 That's that's what's nice about that. The also owning an 1:00:24.600 --> 1:00:29.160 EV versus a conventional internal combustion engine car is that 1:00:29.240 --> 1:00:33.200 you don't have tune ups. You you don't have there's 1:00:33.920 --> 1:00:38.240 no fluids changed, there's no belts there the brakes I 1:00:38.360 --> 1:00:41.440 mentioned regenerative braking. Actually what that is is that's the 1:00:41.480 --> 1:00:44.880 motor slowing the vehicle. That means that the brakes, the 1:00:44.920 --> 1:00:48.240 brake pads are not being used as much. There are 1:00:48.280 --> 1:00:51.280 stories of people in some EV's going over one hundred 1:00:51.280 --> 1:00:54.280 thousand miles before they change their brake pads. So the 1:00:54.400 --> 1:00:58.120 cost of maintenance is a serious consideration when it comes 1:00:58.160 --> 1:01:02.840 down to owning an electric fevehicle. Since the average that 1:01:02.880 --> 1:01:06.320 a person drives every day is forty five miles round trip. 1:01:06.600 --> 1:01:09.240 If you have a vehicle that gets one hundred and 1:01:09.280 --> 1:01:12.720 fifty to three hundred miles on a charge. You can 1:01:12.720 --> 1:01:15.840 figure out how you only have to do that. Vehicle 1:01:15.920 --> 1:01:18.800 may charge it once once a week. But if you're 1:01:18.840 --> 1:01:21.120 plugging it in every night, just like you would your 1:01:21.120 --> 1:01:24.360 mobile phone every night, plug in your car at home, 1:01:24.920 --> 1:01:28.200 you top off the battery and we're back to the 1:01:28.240 --> 1:01:30.160 beginning of what we said. You drive by the gas 1:01:30.160 --> 1:01:32.440 stations and you get that kind of a nice feeling. 1:01:33.080 --> 1:01:35.800 Now, whenever I do a story about EVS and post 1:01:35.840 --> 1:01:38.640 it to my social media, I get the folks saying. 1:01:38.760 --> 1:01:40.040 Well, what about these batteries. 1:01:40.400 --> 1:01:43.560 They're dirty, they can't be recycled, you can't do anything 1:01:43.560 --> 1:01:43.880 with them. 1:01:44.680 --> 1:01:47.160 What can you speak to that at all? The battery 1:01:47.480 --> 1:01:49.880 does it have a life after the car batteries? 1:01:49.920 --> 1:01:53.160 Absolutely do. They are being recycled in a way that 1:01:53.720 --> 1:01:55.920 people probably didn't think several years ago they could be. 1:01:56.480 --> 1:01:59.720 There are companies that are completely dedicated to recycling the batteries. 1:01:59.760 --> 1:02:02.600 But it's it's not just recycling the components, which you've 1:02:02.640 --> 1:02:06.120 heard the term rare earth metals. What they're doing is 1:02:06.120 --> 1:02:09.960 they're taking these and there and they're making battery walls 1:02:09.960 --> 1:02:13.160 out of them, so you get solar panels on your roof. Well, 1:02:13.280 --> 1:02:17.120 that's good, But overnight, when the sun's not hitting your panels, 1:02:17.360 --> 1:02:20.040 you're now on the grid. Well, you have a battery 1:02:20.080 --> 1:02:21.960 set up in your house, and now you can run 1:02:22.000 --> 1:02:24.560 your battery. You can run off of the batteries from 1:02:24.600 --> 1:02:27.760 the electric that you've created from the solar panels during 1:02:27.800 --> 1:02:31.680 the day, so they're being repopulated for that. They're also 1:02:32.200 --> 1:02:39.000 there's the battery technology is increasing every single day. The 1:02:39.000 --> 1:02:42.600 batteries we're using now in twenty twenty three, this will 1:02:42.600 --> 1:02:45.160 not be the technology we're using five to ten years 1:02:45.160 --> 1:02:45.560 from now. 1:02:46.880 --> 1:02:50.200 What are some of your favorite or most exciting evs 1:02:50.280 --> 1:02:50.720 out there? 1:02:50.840 --> 1:02:53.120 Besides the Lucid of course, I. 1:02:53.200 --> 1:02:58.800 Really like the Kia EV six or the performance version 1:02:58.800 --> 1:02:59.000 of the. 1:02:58.920 --> 1:02:59.800 EV six GT. 1:03:01.360 --> 1:03:06.160 I like the Genesis GV sixty. I like the Hyundai 1:03:06.400 --> 1:03:10.760 Ionic five. The common thread running through all those is 1:03:10.800 --> 1:03:14.560 they're all they're all produced by the Hyundai Group, and 1:03:14.960 --> 1:03:19.320 somehow Hundai has electric compulsion figured out. I like the 1:03:19.360 --> 1:03:22.520 Machi from Ford. It's a very nice vehicle. I think 1:03:22.520 --> 1:03:27.160 they're probably the best value on the market. Is the Bolt, 1:03:27.360 --> 1:03:29.160 whether you get the bolt or you get the one 1:03:29.200 --> 1:03:34.560 called the EUV, which stands for Electric Utility Vehicle wonderful vehicle, 1:03:34.920 --> 1:03:38.120 almost three hundred miles in range. The vehicle costs, you know, 1:03:38.720 --> 1:03:42.480 around thirty thousand dollars, and it qualifies for all of 1:03:42.520 --> 1:03:45.680 the all of the tax rebates for the Feds and 1:03:46.120 --> 1:03:50.000 state rebates also. So those are some of them, but 1:03:50.480 --> 1:03:54.680 there are. Every single day, it seems a manufacturer is 1:03:54.720 --> 1:03:58.040 announcing they're coming out with electric vehicle. Now some of 1:03:58.040 --> 1:04:01.360 them are quite exotic, and some of them are going 1:04:01.400 --> 1:04:04.800 to be hopefully on the on the lower end, and 1:04:06.720 --> 1:04:09.440 so that that's going to be the shakeout is an 1:04:09.440 --> 1:04:13.120 EV for everybody. They're not for everybody, and we need 1:04:13.160 --> 1:04:16.440 to we need to stress that that's either because of 1:04:16.480 --> 1:04:23.360 their driving lifestyle, what they do, their vocation. And another 1:04:23.400 --> 1:04:26.800 thing is going to be the charging situation, and that 1:04:26.960 --> 1:04:30.240 is that here in California, where it's temperate, you plug 1:04:30.240 --> 1:04:32.920 in your vehicle and you're going to get a maximum charge. 1:04:33.560 --> 1:04:36.920 When you go into a climate that is cold, and 1:04:37.000 --> 1:04:40.080 I don't mean fifty degrees, I mean maybe you know, 1:04:40.360 --> 1:04:45.120 thirty or thirty below, that vehicle is going to have 1:04:45.200 --> 1:04:48.040 a reduction in the amount that the battery can charge 1:04:48.080 --> 1:04:50.480 and also the range that you can drive the vehicle. 1:04:51.120 --> 1:04:54.080 So most evs are coming out now with what are 1:04:54.080 --> 1:04:58.640 called battery conditioners. They raise the battery before you charge it. 1:04:58.800 --> 1:05:02.680 They raise the battery up to the proper temperature so 1:05:02.720 --> 1:05:06.400 they can accept a full charge. So the technology is 1:05:06.520 --> 1:05:09.360 changing every single day and it's exciting. 1:05:10.080 --> 1:05:12.000 And if. 1:05:13.600 --> 1:05:18.360 You pay attention to ads almost Super Bowl, you will 1:05:18.400 --> 1:05:22.240 see that everything advertised there was an electric vehicle, all right. 1:05:22.320 --> 1:05:25.840 John Faulkner of the Clean Fleet Report, tell folks how 1:05:25.840 --> 1:05:26.320 to find. 1:05:26.160 --> 1:05:30.160 You cleanfourport dot com. And what you'll find there is 1:05:30.200 --> 1:05:34.000 that we cover what we consider what we consider alternative 1:05:34.000 --> 1:05:40.080 fuel vehicles, and so that's anything that's electrified natural gas, 1:05:40.320 --> 1:05:44.440 hydrogen fuel cell, which is another form of electricity powered 1:05:44.520 --> 1:05:47.280 vehicles which we did not discuss, and that would also 1:05:47.320 --> 1:05:48.000 include diesel. 1:05:48.080 --> 1:05:49.360 All right, thanks for joining me today. 1:05:49.480 --> 1:05:50.400 It's been my pleasure. 1:05:50.600 --> 1:05:50.920 All right. 1:05:50.960 --> 1:05:52.680 If you want to see a little video from my 1:05:52.800 --> 1:05:54.920 test drive of the Lucid, we did a zero to 1:05:54.960 --> 1:05:58.160 sixteen about three point four seconds. I was not exactly 1:05:58.200 --> 1:05:59.200 prepared for it. 1:05:59.200 --> 1:05:59.960 It's pretty wild. 1:06:00.360 --> 1:06:03.120 You can find that on my Instagram at rich On Tech. 1:06:03.400 --> 1:06:06.640 I'm Rich Dumuro more of rich On Tech. After this, 1:06:09.360 --> 1:06:13.280 welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich DeMuro here plus 1:06:13.360 --> 1:06:17.400 your calls at eight eight eight rich one oh one 1:06:18.280 --> 1:06:23.200 eight eight eight seven four to two four one zero one. 1:06:23.800 --> 1:06:26.520 I finished that Elvis movie last night. I don't know 1:06:26.520 --> 1:06:30.800 if you've seen this, but it's the one it's I 1:06:30.840 --> 1:06:34.120 called it, and I I called it the Tom Hanks 1:06:34.160 --> 1:06:37.800 Elvis movie, and I realized that I was wrong because 1:06:37.800 --> 1:06:40.080 this was before I saw it. It's really the Austin 1:06:40.160 --> 1:06:43.880 Butler Elvis movie. But I wasn't familiar with this actor 1:06:44.000 --> 1:06:46.840 before I watched it, and wow, he did a great job. 1:06:47.440 --> 1:06:49.960 I know I'm very late on this movie because I 1:06:50.040 --> 1:06:53.800 see things sometimes with movies. It takes me a long time, 1:06:53.880 --> 1:06:56.160 and it took me two weeks to finish this movie, 1:06:56.560 --> 1:06:58.840 but it was. It was really good, and I tweeted 1:06:58.920 --> 1:07:02.280 yesterday saying, I hope it's accurate because almost all of 1:07:02.280 --> 1:07:05.320 my knowledge of Elvis now is from this movie, and 1:07:05.400 --> 1:07:08.520 so I hope that it was at least somewhat accurate 1:07:08.640 --> 1:07:12.240 because that's all I know about Elvis. And wow, I 1:07:12.280 --> 1:07:16.120 mean just such just a visually stunning movie. So if 1:07:16.160 --> 1:07:19.480 you haven't seen it, definitely check it out. Took me 1:07:19.520 --> 1:07:21.479 a bit to get on board with it, but I did. 1:07:22.040 --> 1:07:22.400 All right. 1:07:22.920 --> 1:07:25.120 Phone lines are open at triple eight Rich one one 1:07:25.240 --> 1:07:27.640 eight eight eight seven four to two four to one 1:07:28.000 --> 1:07:28.800 zero one. 1:07:29.440 --> 1:07:30.320 Let me do a question. 1:07:30.360 --> 1:07:32.680 I get a lot of questions via email, so let 1:07:32.680 --> 1:07:36.200 me do a question I got from Roslind. She says, Hey, Rich, 1:07:36.240 --> 1:07:39.720 what are your recommendations regarding a laptop versus an iPad 1:07:40.200 --> 1:07:44.000 from Microsoft Office? I use it for personal nothing too fancy. 1:07:44.200 --> 1:07:48.280 Thanks in advance, Roz Roz. Here is my thought about 1:07:48.320 --> 1:07:52.760 a laptop versus an iPad. Okay, laptop is great if 1:07:52.800 --> 1:07:57.600 you are getting work done. It is a phenomenal work 1:07:57.920 --> 1:08:01.840 device you want to do You mentioned Microsoft Office. That 1:08:01.960 --> 1:08:03.680 leads me to believe that you want to do work 1:08:03.720 --> 1:08:07.320 on this device, whether it is email, whether it is 1:08:07.360 --> 1:08:13.080 writing documents, whether it is creating something anything. That's what 1:08:13.120 --> 1:08:16.240 I think a laptop is best for. The iPad is 1:08:16.280 --> 1:08:19.840 a phenomenal device, But the iPad is more of a 1:08:20.000 --> 1:08:23.640 content consumption device. And don't get me wrong, people do 1:08:23.800 --> 1:08:26.200 plenty of content creation on iPads. It can be used 1:08:26.240 --> 1:08:28.760 in many, many different ways. But I would say a 1:08:28.840 --> 1:08:31.360 majority of the people who are using an iPad are 1:08:31.479 --> 1:08:35.080 using it to consume content, whether that's Netflix, whether that 1:08:35.200 --> 1:08:38.080 is just reading their email, whether that's Web browsing, whether 1:08:38.120 --> 1:08:40.320 that's reading a book. You can do a lot of 1:08:40.320 --> 1:08:43.320 stuff on an iPad. It is an incredible device. But 1:08:43.439 --> 1:08:48.519 you mentioned Microsoft Office specifically, and so in that case, 1:08:48.720 --> 1:08:51.880 I would say you probably want a laptop. A laptop 1:08:52.200 --> 1:08:55.160 is going to be much more suited because of that 1:08:55.400 --> 1:08:58.080 keyboard that's built in, because of the screen, because of 1:08:58.080 --> 1:08:58.639 the ports. 1:08:59.040 --> 1:09:00.760 It's just going to be easy to use. 1:09:01.920 --> 1:09:04.439 Now, I will say I wish that Apple would get 1:09:04.439 --> 1:09:07.920 on board with a touch screen laptop, which my kids 1:09:07.960 --> 1:09:10.800 don't understand when they see me using the iPad or 1:09:10.840 --> 1:09:12.719 they use their iPad and then they go to their laptop. 1:09:12.760 --> 1:09:14.760 They say, I don't understand why Apple doesn't just have 1:09:14.800 --> 1:09:17.080 a touch screen, And I say, I don't know, and 1:09:17.120 --> 1:09:18.680 I think I do know. The answer is that they 1:09:18.680 --> 1:09:21.240 want you to buy the iPad in addition to the laptop. 1:09:21.680 --> 1:09:23.640 That's probably why they don't have the touch screen on 1:09:23.680 --> 1:09:26.880 the laptops. But all the other major companies have moved 1:09:26.880 --> 1:09:30.080 to a touchscreen laptop for the most part, and so 1:09:30.479 --> 1:09:32.960 you can have the best of both worlds. Where you 1:09:33.000 --> 1:09:34.680 see something on the screen, you want to tap a 1:09:34.720 --> 1:09:37.000 box or whatever you need to do, just tap the screen. 1:09:37.720 --> 1:09:44.200 That's not the case on the Microsoft or the MacBook computers. 1:09:44.920 --> 1:09:49.280 I will say that if you are thinking of getting 1:09:49.320 --> 1:09:52.479 the iPad with the keyboard case and maybe you're just 1:09:52.520 --> 1:09:55.479 doing light email, maybe you're just doing light work on 1:09:55.520 --> 1:09:58.880 the iPad, that's another solution because then you truly get 1:09:58.880 --> 1:10:01.439 the best of both worlds, especially if you're traveling a lot, 1:10:01.680 --> 1:10:03.839 because then you can have the iPad on the plane 1:10:04.600 --> 1:10:06.040 and when you get back to the hotel, you can 1:10:06.080 --> 1:10:08.599 actually do your work and email with that little keyboard. 1:10:08.640 --> 1:10:11.639 Those keyboards are never as good though, That's the bottom 1:10:11.640 --> 1:10:15.639 line with that. Susan wrote in and said, my nephew 1:10:15.800 --> 1:10:18.840 suggested I start using duck duck goo to search and 1:10:19.080 --> 1:10:20.520 duck for my emails. 1:10:21.240 --> 1:10:25.240 What are your thoughts, Sue? Okay. 1:10:26.880 --> 1:10:31.720 Duck Duckgo is a search engine that prides itself on privacy. 1:10:31.960 --> 1:10:35.240 That is the main thing. And you've probably seen the 1:10:35.280 --> 1:10:38.360 ads if you go to their website duck duckgo dot com, 1:10:38.360 --> 1:10:40.000 it says, tired of being tracked online? 1:10:40.000 --> 1:10:40.599 We can help. 1:10:40.960 --> 1:10:43.240 We don't store your personal information, we don't follow you 1:10:43.240 --> 1:10:44.720 around with ads, we don't track you. 1:10:44.800 --> 1:10:46.519 Ever, there's no sign up for this. 1:10:47.200 --> 1:10:50.360 You don't need an account to search, and their big 1:10:50.400 --> 1:10:53.640 thing is that it is private compared to Google, that 1:10:53.720 --> 1:10:56.960 as soon as you start searching, they're recording everything you're 1:10:57.000 --> 1:11:00.320 doing and putting it into a profile of who you 1:11:00.360 --> 1:11:02.519 are and what you're searching for, so that they can 1:11:02.560 --> 1:11:06.320 sell ads against that. So duc Ducco still has ads, 1:11:06.360 --> 1:11:08.320 but I think they're sold on a more broad level 1:11:08.560 --> 1:11:11.479 and they're not necessarily targeted towards you. They're targeted towards 1:11:11.520 --> 1:11:13.920 what you might be searching for. So if you search 1:11:14.000 --> 1:11:17.320 for kayaks, you're gonna get ads for kayaks, but the 1:11:17.400 --> 1:11:20.040 kayak company does not remember that you were searching for 1:11:20.120 --> 1:11:23.080 kayaks specifically. They just know that you happen to be 1:11:23.120 --> 1:11:26.200 searching for kayaks at that time. There's a difference there, 1:11:26.960 --> 1:11:29.000 and that's the reason why you get those follow follow 1:11:29.040 --> 1:11:31.720 me around ads where you search for a pair of 1:11:32.280 --> 1:11:34.800 shoes on one website or sneakers, and next thing you know, 1:11:34.840 --> 1:11:38.040 they're following you around to every other website because those 1:11:39.000 --> 1:11:44.479 shoe sellers have gotten information from Google that say, oh, 1:11:44.840 --> 1:11:47.759 you visited this website. In fact, they're getting the information 1:11:47.800 --> 1:11:49.519 from the website that you first visit. So let me 1:11:49.560 --> 1:11:51.840 explain how that works. You go to a website, let's 1:11:51.840 --> 1:11:55.520 say you go to a shoe website. That shoe website 1:11:55.560 --> 1:12:00.240 has a little tracking pixel in it from Facebook, from Google, 1:12:00.720 --> 1:12:04.600 from Microsoft, from other companies that serve up ads, and 1:12:04.680 --> 1:12:06.840 every time once you go to that website, it says, oh, 1:12:06.960 --> 1:12:08.920 Rich Demiro visited here. Now it may not have my 1:12:09.040 --> 1:12:11.880 name per se, but it has a link to who 1:12:11.920 --> 1:12:14.640 I am online, And so that website says, all right, 1:12:14.680 --> 1:12:17.960 Rich visited here. He looked at these sneakers and that's 1:12:18.000 --> 1:12:21.120 what he's interested in, and that information now goes into 1:12:21.120 --> 1:12:23.600 this little database. And then when I go to a 1:12:23.640 --> 1:12:26.800 different website, it says, oh, by the way, Rich was 1:12:26.800 --> 1:12:29.120 looking for these sneakers before, so you should show him 1:12:29.240 --> 1:12:32.240 these sneakers up higher on our search results because he's 1:12:32.240 --> 1:12:34.439 probably looking for those. And by the way, you might 1:12:34.439 --> 1:12:36.400 want to send him a deal for those sneakers because 1:12:37.360 --> 1:12:39.559 he's looking for those sneakers. Let's get him to make 1:12:39.560 --> 1:12:42.720 that purchase. Let's convert him, as they say. And so 1:12:43.240 --> 1:12:46.200 that's really what's happening. And the more that you search, 1:12:46.360 --> 1:12:48.360 the more information they get about you, the more they 1:12:48.400 --> 1:12:51.600 realize that you like to do outdoor stuff, you have 1:12:51.680 --> 1:12:54.400 a boat, you make a certain amount of money, you 1:12:54.439 --> 1:12:56.320 go to this place. You're looking at that place for 1:12:56.360 --> 1:12:59.559 a vacation, And all these websites that you visit sort 1:12:59.560 --> 1:13:03.960 of aang their information to prioritize the things that they 1:13:04.000 --> 1:13:06.880 think you like. And when you search on Google, same 1:13:06.920 --> 1:13:09.200 thing happens. It kind of knows what you're looking for. 1:13:09.320 --> 1:13:12.559 It prioritizes ads, and they sell ads at a higher 1:13:12.560 --> 1:13:16.280 cost based on knowing more about you. So it's a 1:13:16.280 --> 1:13:19.040 big business. So what I recommend Duck doc go Yes, 1:13:19.080 --> 1:13:21.760 if you like your privacy. I'm not a personally the 1:13:21.760 --> 1:13:24.519 biggest fan of the search results that you get, but 1:13:24.600 --> 1:13:27.519 I will recommend getting the Duck email address. In fact, 1:13:27.560 --> 1:13:30.920 I have that email address. It's at Duck dot com 1:13:31.240 --> 1:13:33.960 and it's a privacy centric email address that does not 1:13:34.160 --> 1:13:36.960 track you, and so it strips all the trackers out 1:13:36.960 --> 1:13:39.200 of your email when someone sends you something. So I 1:13:39.280 --> 1:13:41.160 use that when I sign up for websites that I 1:13:41.200 --> 1:13:43.840 may be shopping on or something like that, or maybe 1:13:43.880 --> 1:13:45.920 just one time things where I just you know, if 1:13:45.920 --> 1:13:48.080 I'm signing up for Wi Fi at a Starbucks, I'll 1:13:48.120 --> 1:13:50.680 just give out my Duck dot com email address so 1:13:50.720 --> 1:13:52.920 that way I can just turn off that email and 1:13:53.000 --> 1:13:55.479 it's not tracking me and they don't know what's going on. 1:13:55.560 --> 1:13:57.559 They don't get my real email address. So yeah, sure, 1:13:57.560 --> 1:13:59.479 as a secondary email address, it's free. 1:13:59.560 --> 1:14:00.640 Why not sign up for that? 1:14:01.479 --> 1:14:04.519 But as for Duck Duco, you know, it's fine. I 1:14:04.560 --> 1:14:06.599 think that you know, if you like the search results 1:14:06.600 --> 1:14:09.439 and it's working for you, go for it. Coming up 1:14:09.479 --> 1:14:12.360 next on the show, we've got Jefferson Graham joining me, 1:14:12.800 --> 1:14:15.679 tech guy extraordinaire. He's going to talk about getting better 1:14:15.720 --> 1:14:18.439 pictures with your iPhone plus. Your call is a triple 1:14:18.479 --> 1:14:22.080 eight rich one oh one. You're listening to rich on Tech. 1:14:27.000 --> 1:14:30.920 Welcome back to the third hour of rich on Tech. 1:14:31.000 --> 1:14:34.360 My name is rich DeMuro, hanging out talking technology with you, 1:14:35.640 --> 1:14:38.400 waiting for Jefferson Graham to arrive. He's going to join 1:14:38.479 --> 1:14:43.040 me former USA Today Talking Tech reporter. He's gonna join 1:14:43.040 --> 1:14:45.639 me in studio. We're gonna chat about the new yellow 1:14:45.640 --> 1:14:47.720 iPhone taking pictures. 1:14:48.439 --> 1:14:51.720 Let's see what else do I have for him. Let's see. 1:14:51.720 --> 1:14:56.120 Oh, Apple's new classical music app. That's interesting, So I'm 1:14:56.120 --> 1:14:57.800 gonna get his take on that. Why he thinks they 1:14:57.800 --> 1:15:00.720 did a separate app just for classical music. You can 1:15:00.760 --> 1:15:03.840 find me online at rich on Tech. My website is 1:15:04.160 --> 1:15:07.120 rich on tech dot tv. If you want to prove 1:15:07.200 --> 1:15:09.280 the links I've got on there. It's all the stuff 1:15:09.320 --> 1:15:12.680 I talk about on TV, my newsletter and all of 1:15:12.720 --> 1:15:15.880 my social media links and a link to a podcast 1:15:15.960 --> 1:15:19.960 version of this show. Jesse is in Brooksville, Florida. Jesse, 1:15:20.040 --> 1:15:20.760 you're on with Rich. 1:15:21.920 --> 1:15:22.840 Hey Rich, how's it going? 1:15:22.880 --> 1:15:23.080 Man? 1:15:23.479 --> 1:15:25.200 Everything's going well? How about you? 1:15:26.280 --> 1:15:31.120 Awesome? Pretty awesome? Yeah, just a quick question. Basically, I 1:15:31.200 --> 1:15:37.320 just switched over to my carrier, my cell phone carrier, 1:15:37.439 --> 1:15:40.680 to be my internet provided or at my home. So 1:15:40.720 --> 1:15:42.679 basically just a few months, I want to say, maybe 1:15:42.800 --> 1:15:45.160 like in summer, like June July, I went to do 1:15:45.240 --> 1:15:47.360 some upgrades on my cell phones and then you know, 1:15:47.400 --> 1:15:50.760 they they made us the offer of doing that. I 1:15:50.800 --> 1:15:52.479 thought it was too good to be true, actually, just 1:15:52.520 --> 1:15:55.960 because I'm actually saving money on what I was paying 1:15:55.960 --> 1:15:59.440 my cable company for Internet. Sure, that was pretty skeptical, 1:15:59.680 --> 1:16:02.040 pretty skeptical as to, you know, is this going to 1:16:02.120 --> 1:16:04.160 be as good? You know, we stream HD, we do 1:16:04.760 --> 1:16:08.680 you know the works, you know Netflix, there's a thousand devices, 1:16:08.680 --> 1:16:11.400 you know, all that kind of stuff. So I guess 1:16:11.640 --> 1:16:13.640 they gave me a money back guarantee. You know that 1:16:13.680 --> 1:16:14.880 if I didn't like it, I could return it, but 1:16:14.880 --> 1:16:17.280 I'm gonna go for it. Well, lo and behold. I 1:16:17.280 --> 1:16:20.640 mean I started connecting one thing after the others, my 1:16:20.720 --> 1:16:24.000 security system and everything little by literal was holding, holding, holding, 1:16:24.400 --> 1:16:28.240 and it's still holding. But I've been wondering, you know, 1:16:29.000 --> 1:16:30.680 the other day, I was just thinking about that. As 1:16:31.080 --> 1:16:34.000 we hear about so much hacking and stuff and craziness 1:16:34.000 --> 1:16:35.799 out there, I was wondering, I wonder how. 1:16:35.680 --> 1:16:36.280 Secure is this? 1:16:36.400 --> 1:16:36.559 You know? 1:16:36.720 --> 1:16:39.200 Is it as secure as what I had with. 1:16:39.000 --> 1:16:39.679 My cable company. 1:16:39.720 --> 1:16:41.320 I've been meaning to call for a while now, and 1:16:41.360 --> 1:16:42.719 I finally got around to it today. 1:16:43.360 --> 1:16:44.040 Good question. 1:16:44.240 --> 1:16:48.000 So you're wondering if the home internet because you're you're 1:16:48.000 --> 1:16:50.720 basically getting home Internet through your cable or through your 1:16:50.760 --> 1:16:53.479 cellular provider, which I'm guessing is either T Mobile or Verizon. 1:16:53.560 --> 1:16:55.559 Right, it is T Mobile. 1:16:55.560 --> 1:16:57.800 And it's like this device that you put in your house. 1:16:57.840 --> 1:17:00.639 It's like a little power that you sit there and 1:17:00.680 --> 1:17:03.360 it basically just starts to you know, it is the 1:17:03.400 --> 1:17:06.280 one that sends out that signal and everything just connects 1:17:06.320 --> 1:17:10.080 to it. It behaves like Wi Fi if everything recognizes 1:17:10.160 --> 1:17:11.280 it like Wi Fi. 1:17:11.600 --> 1:17:13.040 Yeah, and so what it's doing. 1:17:13.120 --> 1:17:17.000 Is it's basically a capturing a signal, a cellular signal 1:17:17.040 --> 1:17:19.719 from outside. Typically they want you to put these little 1:17:19.800 --> 1:17:23.360 routers near a window. It captures the cellular signal and 1:17:23.400 --> 1:17:27.280 then it broadcasts that cellular signal out as a Wi 1:17:27.280 --> 1:17:30.360 Fi signal in your home. So, for all intents and purposes, 1:17:30.520 --> 1:17:34.080 it functions exactly the same as your wired internet box 1:17:34.080 --> 1:17:37.680 that you typically have from your cable company or a 1:17:37.720 --> 1:17:41.760 fiber company, or back in the day you know a 1:17:41.800 --> 1:17:44.640 company that would provide just phone service, right like an 1:17:44.680 --> 1:17:47.679 AT and T or something. So it's it's very similar, 1:17:47.760 --> 1:17:51.599 except the cable that connects this box is no longer 1:17:51.640 --> 1:17:54.400 a cable. It's just wireless, so it's a five G signal. 1:17:54.760 --> 1:17:57.640 So is it as secure that's a great question. I 1:17:57.720 --> 1:18:01.040 actually think that it is very secure. I think that 1:18:01.200 --> 1:18:04.720 the problems that happen with hacking ninety nine percent of 1:18:04.760 --> 1:18:06.920 the time have to do with the network itself and 1:18:07.000 --> 1:18:10.520 the devices themselves, and actually the people that are accessing 1:18:10.560 --> 1:18:13.160 these things on the network. So I'm going to tweet 1:18:13.160 --> 1:18:18.320 out this PDF that actually the National Security Agency recently 1:18:18.360 --> 1:18:22.640 put out. This was in February. It's a best practices 1:18:22.720 --> 1:18:26.600 for securing your home network. And the bottom line is 1:18:26.640 --> 1:18:29.720 that people may get on your home network to get 1:18:29.720 --> 1:18:32.960 access to your devices. And the reality is once someone's 1:18:33.080 --> 1:18:36.760 inside your home, if they are connecting on your network, 1:18:37.160 --> 1:18:39.080 that's when they can do the most damage because they 1:18:39.080 --> 1:18:42.040 are on the inside. From the outside, it's a little 1:18:42.080 --> 1:18:44.280 bit tougher. You have to have an open port. You 1:18:44.320 --> 1:18:47.320 have to Most of these routers come come to you 1:18:47.439 --> 1:18:50.559 in a way that it's pretty much locked down and 1:18:50.920 --> 1:18:54.640 unless you do something, unless you go into these settings 1:18:54.680 --> 1:18:58.719 and you change something, they're going to be locked down 1:18:58.800 --> 1:19:02.719 from outside folks getting access to the inside of your network. 1:19:02.800 --> 1:19:04.479 So that's typically how it's done. 1:19:04.720 --> 1:19:07.519 With that said, a couple of recommendations and going off 1:19:07.560 --> 1:19:12.360 this executive summary here, So you got to update your devices. 1:19:12.360 --> 1:19:13.960 Those always have to be up to date, and that 1:19:14.000 --> 1:19:17.400 includes this router that T Mobile gave you. You can 1:19:17.439 --> 1:19:19.400 log in if you look on the bottom of this router, 1:19:19.760 --> 1:19:22.679 there is a little log in information. You can access 1:19:22.760 --> 1:19:25.479 the software on that router and there may be a 1:19:25.479 --> 1:19:28.479 firmware update or a software update for that router. So 1:19:28.520 --> 1:19:30.240 I would check to see that would be my first 1:19:30.280 --> 1:19:34.000 line of defense. Then I would one hundred percent have 1:19:34.160 --> 1:19:38.080 a guest network. So if the router supports it, and 1:19:38.200 --> 1:19:42.559 many routers, do you want a secondary network that is 1:19:42.760 --> 1:19:44.840 just for guests when they come to your home. And 1:19:44.880 --> 1:19:47.640 I know it feels weird. I have it on my refrigerator. 1:19:47.640 --> 1:19:50.240 I've got a little QR code that people can scan, 1:19:50.680 --> 1:19:53.000 and it feels odd giving guests this kind of like 1:19:53.120 --> 1:19:57.040 secondary network. But the reality is it is protecting your 1:19:57.080 --> 1:19:59.360 network from them. And I'm not saying your friends are 1:19:59.400 --> 1:20:01.960 going to do anything on your network, but you never know. 1:20:02.920 --> 1:20:04.560 One of the kids friends may come over with a 1:20:04.640 --> 1:20:07.400 virus on their computer and it may somehow make its 1:20:07.479 --> 1:20:09.680 way onto your network. So you don't want to do 1:20:10.520 --> 1:20:13.120 you don't want to have people connecting to your standard network. 1:20:13.160 --> 1:20:15.120 I know it seems odd to make them connect to 1:20:15.640 --> 1:20:18.799 a secondary but just make a guest network. Definitely, definitely 1:20:18.800 --> 1:20:21.400 do that. That's a very smart thing to do. And 1:20:21.400 --> 1:20:22.880 then when it comes to the people that are on 1:20:22.960 --> 1:20:27.440 your network, you want to remind them about standard security, 1:20:27.800 --> 1:20:31.840 which is clicking links today is pretty much the main 1:20:32.840 --> 1:20:36.639 delivery mechanism for all malware that people are getting attacked by. 1:20:36.960 --> 1:20:39.759 And so when you're clicking that link that you get 1:20:39.840 --> 1:20:42.760 in an email or a text, message, and then you're 1:20:42.800 --> 1:20:45.280 getting some sort of software that's installed in your device 1:20:46.080 --> 1:20:48.640 that is where the problems happen. And so most of 1:20:48.680 --> 1:20:51.360 the time it's just human error. We're just clicking something 1:20:51.400 --> 1:20:55.200 without thinking about it, and that gives the bad actors 1:20:56.000 --> 1:20:59.720 a method to access our devices and so, and they're 1:20:59.720 --> 1:21:02.080 always looking for these exploits, and that's the reason why 1:21:02.080 --> 1:21:04.799 you also want to make sure all of your software 1:21:04.880 --> 1:21:09.280 is updated on the devices that are connecting to this network. Now, 1:21:09.800 --> 1:21:12.440 if you want to be really secure, there are devices 1:21:12.479 --> 1:21:14.960 out there that can help you secure your network. And 1:21:15.000 --> 1:21:17.880 one of them. I have not personally tested this, but 1:21:18.080 --> 1:21:20.080 I know about it. I know it's been out there 1:21:20.080 --> 1:21:23.080 for a long time. It's called the FIREWALLA. And so 1:21:23.200 --> 1:21:27.799 a firewall is basically a mechanism that keeps you secure 1:21:27.880 --> 1:21:31.439 from the outside of the network. And so FIREWALLA is 1:21:31.479 --> 1:21:34.360 a little device that you plug in to your network 1:21:34.800 --> 1:21:38.280 and it will block it will basically try to safeguard 1:21:38.320 --> 1:21:41.439 you as much as possible from anything that might happen 1:21:41.479 --> 1:21:43.960 to your network. Now, some routers have these features built in, 1:21:45.080 --> 1:21:47.280 but this is a third party device that you can get. 1:21:47.320 --> 1:21:51.360 It's a little expensive. The cheapest one, I believe is 1:21:51.760 --> 1:21:55.360 one hundred and eighty nine dollars. But it's one of 1:21:55.400 --> 1:21:57.680 these set and forget type of things. You plug it 1:21:57.680 --> 1:22:00.439 into your network and you maybe you know, tweak some 1:22:00.479 --> 1:22:03.280 of the settings, but it does a lot of things. 1:22:03.320 --> 1:22:06.600 So not only does it protect your network from cyber attacks, 1:22:06.920 --> 1:22:09.040 it's got content filtering. So if you have kids and 1:22:09.080 --> 1:22:10.960 you want to take advantage of some of those things, 1:22:10.960 --> 1:22:13.599 you can do that. You can block ads across your 1:22:13.720 --> 1:22:16.679 entire network. So I've got my router set up where 1:22:16.760 --> 1:22:19.280 it will block all the ads on the network, much 1:22:19.320 --> 1:22:21.760 to my kids dislike because some of these games they 1:22:21.840 --> 1:22:24.800 play rely on ads to serve up and they don't 1:22:24.880 --> 1:22:27.959 like that feature of what I do built in VPN, 1:22:28.120 --> 1:22:30.400 so you can also have a VPN that's built into this. 1:22:31.360 --> 1:22:33.880 And there's no monthly fee on this, so that's kind 1:22:33.880 --> 1:22:35.240 of nice as well. It's kind of one of those 1:22:35.240 --> 1:22:37.040 things where you buy it once and it's going to 1:22:37.120 --> 1:22:39.480 last you for a long time. So again that's FIREWALLA. 1:22:39.880 --> 1:22:42.080 I don't know if you need this per se on 1:22:42.120 --> 1:22:43.960 your network. I think that I would do all the 1:22:44.000 --> 1:22:47.000 things that I mentioned first and just make sure that 1:22:47.080 --> 1:22:49.960 folks on your network know what's happening. Make sure you 1:22:50.000 --> 1:22:53.040 don't have any ports open for any gaming or anything 1:22:53.040 --> 1:22:55.240 that people are doing. But that's really what you want 1:22:55.280 --> 1:22:56.960 to do, is just make sure things are locked down 1:22:57.000 --> 1:22:59.519 and make sure you have that separate guest network, make 1:22:59.520 --> 1:23:02.280 sure everything up to date. And I think that's really 1:23:02.280 --> 1:23:05.800 the best way to protect yourself in a very convenient way. 1:23:05.880 --> 1:23:07.320 And if you want to take things to the next 1:23:07.400 --> 1:23:11.000 level with this with a physical device like the firewall, 1:23:11.000 --> 1:23:14.400 and then sure go with something like that. But as 1:23:14.439 --> 1:23:18.599 for the actual wireless being any more insecure than the wired, 1:23:18.640 --> 1:23:19.240 I don't think so. 1:23:19.360 --> 1:23:21.799 I think you're going to be just fine. So Jesse, good. 1:23:21.720 --> 1:23:24.599 Question, Thanks for calling in, appreciate it, and thanks for listening. 1:23:25.560 --> 1:23:28.080 All right, before we have our guest, Jefferson Graham come 1:23:28.080 --> 1:23:30.599 into the studio, let me tell you about a new 1:23:30.680 --> 1:23:35.680 game from the makers of Pokemon Go. So it's called Paradot. 1:23:36.040 --> 1:23:39.800 So Paradot is launching on May ninth, and this is 1:23:39.840 --> 1:23:42.400 a new game that is sort of like Pokemon Go. 1:23:42.920 --> 1:23:47.240 So think these whimsical little creatures, but these are as 1:23:47.240 --> 1:23:51.000 they describe amazing magical creatures that eat, sleep, play with toys, 1:23:51.080 --> 1:23:54.840 explore their environment, get bored, develop unique personalities, and are 1:23:54.840 --> 1:23:58.160 always in need of a loving adopter like you. They're 1:23:58.200 --> 1:24:01.120 all unique, and it's your job to feed these things, 1:24:01.240 --> 1:24:02.760 keep them healthy, keep them love. 1:24:02.840 --> 1:24:03.679 They're called Dots. 1:24:04.040 --> 1:24:07.400 They start out as a little baby, and basically they 1:24:07.439 --> 1:24:10.000 say this is a game that delivers all the joy 1:24:10.000 --> 1:24:12.479 of raising a pet without the mess. Kind of reminds 1:24:12.479 --> 1:24:16.760 me of these Tamagatchi games. Over the years, there's been 1:24:16.840 --> 1:24:20.000 a lot of games like this. I think that obviously 1:24:20.160 --> 1:24:24.000 with Niantic and Pokemon Go, it's all about the real 1:24:24.040 --> 1:24:26.960 world meeting the virtual world, and so I think we're 1:24:27.000 --> 1:24:29.280 going to see some unique plays there. So if you 1:24:29.320 --> 1:24:32.000 want to get this new Paradot p E R I 1:24:32.240 --> 1:24:34.479 d O T. If you want to get this game 1:24:34.560 --> 1:24:37.320 on your phone, as soon as it launches, you can 1:24:37.400 --> 1:24:39.840 go search it in the App Store or Google Play 1:24:39.960 --> 1:24:42.479 search Paradot, and you can sign up for what's called 1:24:42.520 --> 1:24:45.439 a pre registration and you'll get a notification as soon 1:24:45.439 --> 1:24:48.680 as the app is available. Coming out May ninth. I'll 1:24:48.720 --> 1:24:51.479 play this, I'll try it out. It's been since twenty 1:24:51.560 --> 1:24:55.280 sixteen when Pokemon Go came out, and that game really 1:24:55.360 --> 1:24:58.120 changed things with how they mix the real world and 1:24:58.160 --> 1:25:01.240 the augmented reality world and people are still having fun 1:25:01.240 --> 1:25:04.519 playing that. All right, Coming up, Jefferson Graham is going 1:25:04.560 --> 1:25:06.000 to join me. We're going to talk about the new 1:25:06.040 --> 1:25:08.680 yellow iPhone, which I have in my hand right here. 1:25:08.720 --> 1:25:11.120 I'm gonna get some thoughts on from him about what 1:25:11.200 --> 1:25:14.200 he thinks of this color, which I'll describe it when 1:25:14.200 --> 1:25:16.760 he gets back in here. Plus, we will talk about 1:25:16.760 --> 1:25:20.200 taking better pictures on the iPhone, and we'll talk about 1:25:20.200 --> 1:25:23.760 Apple's new app just for classical music. You're listening to 1:25:24.000 --> 1:25:26.400 rich on tech. Give me a call triple eight rich 1:25:26.439 --> 1:25:29.880 one on one eight eight eight seven four to two four. 1:25:29.880 --> 1:25:31.760 One zero one. 1:25:33.280 --> 1:25:38.880 Let me tell folks about Jefferson so big into photography, 1:25:39.680 --> 1:25:44.439 getting the best pictures out of the iPhone, and what 1:25:44.520 --> 1:25:50.839 have you been up to? Come over to my microphone. 1:25:51.000 --> 1:25:52.800 We can share a microphone here. 1:25:52.920 --> 1:25:55.160 Let's do that. Oh there you go, look at that. 1:25:55.320 --> 1:25:59.360 Yeah, okay, sounds good now, alrighty. I do a video 1:25:59.439 --> 1:26:02.320 series on YouTube called Photo Walks TV. I take people 1:26:02.360 --> 1:26:04.439 with me to great places and show them how to 1:26:04.479 --> 1:26:10.639 get better photos, better travel photos on their smartphone. We've 1:26:10.640 --> 1:26:13.880 got a newsletter comes out every weekend called the Photo 1:26:13.880 --> 1:26:20.920 Walks TV newsletter. Photography meets Technology meets travel. 1:26:21.160 --> 1:26:23.040 And I think we just got your mic. The mic 1:26:23.160 --> 1:26:26.360 was actually unplugged. You know what I want for this show. 1:26:26.439 --> 1:26:28.760 I want to soundboard because I want to be able 1:26:28.800 --> 1:26:32.479 to do like the different, like the and so now can. 1:26:32.320 --> 1:26:35.400 We hear you? Let's say, now you know so much better? 1:26:35.760 --> 1:26:36.439 I love it. 1:26:36.600 --> 1:26:39.640 Okay, So you're doing photo walks. You've been traveling a 1:26:39.640 --> 1:26:42.920 lot with this show. Huh, yes, I have. Where we've been. 1:26:43.000 --> 1:26:46.679 We've been to Solving. Yes, I love Solving. Yes, it's 1:26:46.760 --> 1:26:49.280 one of my favorite places. It's this Solving is a 1:26:49.320 --> 1:26:52.320 city that's about what an hour and a half two 1:26:52.320 --> 1:26:53.080 hours north. 1:26:52.920 --> 1:26:56.679 Of a half hours an hour. It's seven thousand people, 1:26:57.479 --> 1:26:59.080 but they get a million visitors a year. 1:26:59.240 --> 1:27:01.599 Yeah, it's it's in credible. It's like a little it's 1:27:01.640 --> 1:27:04.639 really like a Hallmark movie twenty four to seven. 1:27:04.880 --> 1:27:08.360 It's a Danish town that was developed by Danish immigrants 1:27:08.560 --> 1:27:12.360 and they kept all the architecture is incredible. But the 1:27:13.080 --> 1:27:16.320 surrounding community is you know, Sandy Inns Valley is out 1:27:16.360 --> 1:27:17.040 of this world. 1:27:16.880 --> 1:27:20.559 Beautiful, beautiful place, great wine tasting up there. They just 1:27:20.680 --> 1:27:23.360 had a couple of really high end places open up it. 1:27:23.479 --> 1:27:26.439 For many, many years, it was very much like kind 1:27:26.479 --> 1:27:29.400 of a three star hotel town. Now they've got this 1:27:29.520 --> 1:27:33.240 place that is Hotel talk that's really nice, but no 1:27:33.320 --> 1:27:35.280 even nicer. I'm not even sure what the name is, 1:27:35.320 --> 1:27:38.799 but it's this hotel that just opened by Loso Livos. Anyway, 1:27:38.840 --> 1:27:42.360 it's like more than five star because I know because 1:27:42.400 --> 1:27:44.640 my wife is planning some sort of like party up 1:27:44.640 --> 1:27:47.960 there and she has to stay there, and it's very expensive, 1:27:48.080 --> 1:27:50.800 so we've been debating whether it's worth it. 1:27:50.920 --> 1:27:53.800 Anybody listening, this is the time to go. Your best 1:27:53.840 --> 1:27:56.439 time is before spring break. We have a few more weeks. 1:27:56.800 --> 1:28:00.160 Winner is just gorgeous and it's not jammed, so it's 1:28:00.160 --> 1:28:01.639 a really good time. And I was in Las Vegas 1:28:01.680 --> 1:28:03.679 this week as as you were as I was yet 1:28:03.680 --> 1:28:05.160 and I think we were at different events. 1:28:05.360 --> 1:28:07.360 I was at no event. I was at my own event, 1:28:07.520 --> 1:28:10.120 the Rich DeMuro enjoying Las Vegas. I was supposed to 1:28:10.160 --> 1:28:12.040 a story there and then that didn't work out. By 1:28:12.040 --> 1:28:16.160 the way, we're talking with Jefferson Graham, tech Extraordinaire. He 1:28:16.280 --> 1:28:19.759 is formerly of USA Today and now with Photo Walks TV. 1:28:20.280 --> 1:28:21.840 Give us a call if you want to talk about 1:28:21.840 --> 1:28:24.840 tech eight eight eight Rich one O one eight eight 1:28:24.920 --> 1:28:28.080 eight seven four to two, four to one zero one. 1:28:28.360 --> 1:28:29.200 You want to take a call? 1:28:29.400 --> 1:28:33.240 Sure, all right, let's see what Tim in uh Oak Hills, 1:28:33.280 --> 1:28:35.439 California is asking about? 1:28:35.439 --> 1:28:37.280 Tim? What's on your mind? Welcome to the show. 1:28:37.520 --> 1:28:41.120 Good afternoon, Rich, Thanks so much. I have a little device. 1:28:41.160 --> 1:28:43.120 It's kind of cool. It's a little things in China, 1:28:43.280 --> 1:28:46.759 like seven or eight blocks, and it's a Bluetooth receiver 1:28:46.840 --> 1:28:49.720 to plunge into a cigarette lighter of the car. I 1:28:49.720 --> 1:28:51.720 actually have one of the house, and it turns the 1:28:51.760 --> 1:28:55.240 Bluetooth signal to my cell phone into an FM signal, 1:28:55.600 --> 1:28:57.280 So no matter where I go on my property, I 1:28:57.280 --> 1:29:00.280 can have different radios on and always hear iHeartRadio. It's 1:29:00.360 --> 1:29:04.040 kind of cool to have, you know, multiple radio stations 1:29:04.840 --> 1:29:08.800 receivers all around the house from the little thing. It 1:29:08.840 --> 1:29:11.960 works perfectly with my little Android phone. But when I 1:29:12.280 --> 1:29:14.120 just got a tablet about two or three weeks ago, 1:29:14.520 --> 1:29:17.080 it seemed to work fine the first time. But today 1:29:17.640 --> 1:29:20.400 I actually noticed it yesterday when I trans When I 1:29:20.680 --> 1:29:24.160 listened to iHeartRadio on the tablet itself, it sounds fine, 1:29:24.840 --> 1:29:28.680 but when I transmit Bluetooth to this little transceiver, that 1:29:28.920 --> 1:29:32.040 turns it into an FM signal. It's all garbled and distorted, 1:29:32.320 --> 1:29:35.240 and I thought, well, maybe it's the iHeart app. But 1:29:35.520 --> 1:29:38.040 it does it with my local radio station app as well, 1:29:38.600 --> 1:29:39.320 and that's where I'm at. 1:29:40.439 --> 1:29:42.920 So you've got a device that is maybe I'm not 1:29:43.000 --> 1:29:46.759 understanding this. It's a device that's sending a FM signal 1:29:46.800 --> 1:29:48.440 through your house or a Bluetooth signal. 1:29:48.200 --> 1:29:48.639 Through your house. 1:29:48.720 --> 1:29:51.320 It receives the Bluetooth signal. It's looks look like a 1:29:51.320 --> 1:29:54.120 little dongle that plugs into a cigarette lighter. Your car 1:29:54.160 --> 1:29:56.880 has a little boltmeter on it in the USB charging things. 1:29:57.040 --> 1:29:59.679 But yeah, it receives a Bluetooth signal from my phone, 1:30:00.120 --> 1:30:02.280 and then you can adjust which frequency you know, you 1:30:02.320 --> 1:30:05.759 get to a frequency nobody else is transmitting on. Okay, 1:30:07.040 --> 1:30:08.640 zero or eighty nine point seven? I think I use 1:30:08.720 --> 1:30:12.799 up here, okay, And then it's a nice FM signal 1:30:12.800 --> 1:30:15.200 that I can listen to radio all over my got it? 1:30:15.280 --> 1:30:18.200 Okay, So I'm actually surprised this works that well. But 1:30:18.280 --> 1:30:20.160 are you is are you sort of in a more 1:30:20.240 --> 1:30:20.920 rural area. 1:30:21.320 --> 1:30:22.799 Oh yeah, I mean I'm in the high desert. 1:30:22.560 --> 1:30:24.320 Here at Old Kills, Okay, got it? So? 1:30:24.880 --> 1:30:28.240 So it so certain stations work, Certain stations don't work. 1:30:28.280 --> 1:30:29.640 That's what I'm getting from this. 1:30:30.040 --> 1:30:32.599 Well, the thing is my with my cell phone, everything 1:30:32.640 --> 1:30:35.919 works perfect, no matter what app I use, whether it's iHeart, 1:30:36.000 --> 1:30:38.800 I heard, I pretty much only use a KFI And 1:30:38.880 --> 1:30:41.080 I have a local radio station up here called Talk 1:30:41.200 --> 1:30:43.080 nine to sixty that I listened to occasionally, and that's 1:30:43.240 --> 1:30:46.080 they have their own private El Dorado app. That all 1:30:46.120 --> 1:30:49.479 sounds fine. So it's not the station, it's just whether 1:30:49.479 --> 1:30:53.280 it's iHeart app or my local radio station app. My 1:30:53.400 --> 1:30:55.840 cell phone seems to work perfectly. It's worked two or 1:30:55.840 --> 1:30:58.120 three years I've been doing. This works great. But with 1:30:58.200 --> 1:31:02.000 the with the tablet when it connected by Bluetooth, it's 1:31:02.040 --> 1:31:04.320 garbled and cuts out too as well. 1:31:04.680 --> 1:31:05.760 What kind of tablet is this? 1:31:06.360 --> 1:31:11.400 It is a Blue Phones. Yeah, that's b l u okay. 1:31:11.479 --> 1:31:12.920 You smartphones? 1:31:13.360 --> 1:31:15.880 That might be it right there. That might model number 1:31:15.920 --> 1:31:17.880 is M eight l M A l okay. 1:31:17.920 --> 1:31:21.280 So that might be the reason Blue Blue products are 1:31:22.200 --> 1:31:27.040 traditionally inexpensive, and they may not have the best Bluetooth 1:31:27.479 --> 1:31:30.439 in that product, like the the Bluetooth. Yeah, there's different 1:31:30.520 --> 1:31:34.040 versions of Bluetooth, and so it may be that the 1:31:34.280 --> 1:31:37.720 version they're using is just a very inexpensive version is that. 1:31:37.760 --> 1:31:38.679 Tried it on iPad? 1:31:39.120 --> 1:31:40.439 Yeah, I was gonna say that's what I would do. 1:31:40.479 --> 1:31:42.160 Get a friend over there, try it on an iPad 1:31:42.160 --> 1:31:43.160 and see if that works. 1:31:43.520 --> 1:31:44.960 But well, it works, it works on my cell phone. 1:31:44.960 --> 1:31:47.080 I've already I know that the receiver thing works fine, 1:31:47.160 --> 1:31:49.360 and it works my cell phone is no problem. But 1:31:49.400 --> 1:31:51.080 the thing is, it worked two weeks ago, it seemed 1:31:51.080 --> 1:31:52.599 to work fine. It seems to be just this weekend 1:31:52.640 --> 1:31:53.280 when I started up. 1:31:53.320 --> 1:31:54.400 It's just doing it well. 1:31:54.800 --> 1:31:56.880 I was thinking, would it would it do any good 1:31:56.880 --> 1:32:00.000 to do a full factory reset, so to speak on Android? 1:32:00.479 --> 1:32:02.479 Now you're speaking my line. I love doing that. That's 1:32:02.479 --> 1:32:04.240 my favorite thing to do on any device. 1:32:04.439 --> 1:32:04.920 I love. 1:32:06.439 --> 1:32:06.880 Three months. 1:32:07.160 --> 1:32:09.200 Well, that's that's a lot. That's that's a lot. 1:32:09.240 --> 1:32:13.160 But I love well I I yeah, I would do 1:32:13.200 --> 1:32:16.080 the I would do the the full reset. I love 1:32:16.160 --> 1:32:18.759 doing that. It's you know, you do a factory reset. 1:32:18.760 --> 1:32:21.640 It gets everything back to the standard the way it 1:32:21.720 --> 1:32:24.280 was from the factory. Maybe you installed something on this 1:32:24.360 --> 1:32:27.360 device that just isn't working properly, or it just isn't 1:32:27.360 --> 1:32:31.960 playing nice with this receiver. I'm still not understanding why 1:32:32.040 --> 1:32:35.240 you wouldn't just use the app to stream the station. 1:32:35.439 --> 1:32:38.040 I would just test it on another another person's device 1:32:38.040 --> 1:32:38.960 and see what happens. 1:32:39.280 --> 1:32:41.880 Yeah, that's that's what I would do. But Tim, it 1:32:41.920 --> 1:32:43.680 sounds like you've got it figured out. This reminds me 1:32:43.720 --> 1:32:46.840 of when I first had, like back in the car, 1:32:46.920 --> 1:32:49.160 Like when you would use like your your iPod and 1:32:49.200 --> 1:32:52.600 you didn't have like a connection, right, You'd use like 1:32:52.640 --> 1:32:57.120 an FM transmitter to get your signal, and it never worked, right. 1:32:57.120 --> 1:32:59.360 I ended up having to get it like factory installed. 1:32:59.600 --> 1:33:01.760 All right, more of rich on tech coming up after this. 1:33:01.800 --> 1:33:04.160 I've got Jefferson Graham in studio. Give us a call 1:33:04.240 --> 1:33:06.559 at Triple eight Rich one oh one. That's eight eight 1:33:06.600 --> 1:33:09.879 eight seven four to two, four to one zero one. 1:33:10.040 --> 1:33:11.720 We'll talk about the yellow iPhone. 1:33:11.880 --> 1:33:17.600 Coming up next Jefferson Graham dot nettwalkstv dot com or 1:33:17.640 --> 1:33:20.080 two great places. And I've got my newsletter Jefferson Graham 1:33:20.080 --> 1:33:23.360 dot substack dot com comes out every Saturday and Sunday. 1:33:23.760 --> 1:33:25.160 You told me about substack. 1:33:25.400 --> 1:33:28.000 I signed up and I did it for a bit 1:33:28.040 --> 1:33:29.560 and I still have my newsletter. 1:33:30.240 --> 1:33:32.400 Uh, I guess which list. 1:33:33.120 --> 1:33:35.280 But I don't actively do it, but one of these 1:33:35.360 --> 1:33:37.520 days I will because I love the newsletter. 1:33:37.680 --> 1:33:40.559 Best journalism experience I've ever had, and I've been around 1:33:40.560 --> 1:33:41.280 for a while. 1:33:41.080 --> 1:33:44.240 Because the feedback it's so it's so direct to your fans. 1:33:44.360 --> 1:33:47.200 Yes, and they feel you know, you're going into their 1:33:47.240 --> 1:33:50.120 email box, and like there's always a question, well, what 1:33:50.160 --> 1:33:52.200 time should I send it? When's a good day to 1:33:52.200 --> 1:33:55.080 send It doesn't matter. People are happy to get an 1:33:55.120 --> 1:33:58.160 email that's not a sales email at any time of 1:33:58.200 --> 1:33:58.519 the day. 1:33:58.760 --> 1:34:03.720 And also, you're in is your inbox like the way 1:34:03.760 --> 1:34:05.560 I see my email inboxes. 1:34:05.640 --> 1:34:06.679 It's all the tasks. 1:34:06.720 --> 1:34:08.800 So if I get it no matter what time of 1:34:08.880 --> 1:34:11.400 day and I'm going through my emails, I will save 1:34:11.439 --> 1:34:13.040 it for later and I will get to it when 1:34:13.040 --> 1:34:14.439 I get to it. I don't delete things out of 1:34:14.439 --> 1:34:16.880 my inbox until I'm done with them, and it's almost like. 1:34:16.800 --> 1:34:18.679 A little to do list. All right, let's talk about 1:34:18.680 --> 1:34:19.160 two things. 1:34:19.840 --> 1:34:23.640 We've got the new in my hand, the new iPhone 1:34:23.720 --> 1:34:28.120 fourteen and fourteen plus. This is the fourteen in yellow, yes, 1:34:28.479 --> 1:34:31.559 end of sentence. There's really nothing else except it's a color, 1:34:31.680 --> 1:34:34.040 and it's only on the fourteen and plus. It's not 1:34:34.080 --> 1:34:38.160 on the Pro or Promax. It's yellow yellow like a 1:34:38.240 --> 1:34:42.360 bowl of Trix or like Pikachu from Pokemon. That's about 1:34:42.360 --> 1:34:45.480 as close. It's Would you call it banana yellow or no? 1:34:45.479 --> 1:34:48.639 No, it's yellower. It's yellower than a banana. It's brighter yellow, 1:34:48.720 --> 1:34:52.320 it's bright. Yeah, the question I had. I understand why 1:34:52.360 --> 1:34:54.160 Apple does it because it looks good in an ad 1:34:54.160 --> 1:34:56.719 And they may sell a few one hundred thousand copies, 1:34:56.720 --> 1:34:58.040 I don't know whatever. 1:34:57.840 --> 1:35:00.799 They'll sell millions. So they'll sell millions. 1:35:00.880 --> 1:35:03.320 Okay, they'll sell millions. But who do you know who 1:35:03.400 --> 1:35:04.360 doesn't have a case. 1:35:04.800 --> 1:35:05.960 That's my question. 1:35:06.360 --> 1:35:08.840 Okay, and my wife has a case and it happens. 1:35:08.560 --> 1:35:09.120 To be yellow. 1:35:09.479 --> 1:35:11.439 Oh so it's like Hlity has a yellow phone. She 1:35:11.479 --> 1:35:14.479 was ahead of twenty dollars case or whatever we paid 1:35:14.479 --> 1:35:17.519 for it, you know, and there was no need to 1:35:17.600 --> 1:35:19.120 have this yellow phone. None. 1:35:19.240 --> 1:35:23.720 I don't understand the phone colors because it's always the 1:35:23.760 --> 1:35:24.960 same you put a case on. 1:35:25.280 --> 1:35:26.559 Now, I do have a clear case. 1:35:27.000 --> 1:35:28.519 Yeah, some people have clear cases. 1:35:28.560 --> 1:35:31.040 But if you're gonna, I mean, I don't know. And 1:35:31.120 --> 1:35:34.679 I've been wanting to go caseless, but I actually think 1:35:34.680 --> 1:35:36.559 my phone is grippier with the case. 1:35:36.640 --> 1:35:39.439 I like the case on it. And are you caseless. 1:35:39.640 --> 1:35:40.400 You have the big case. 1:35:40.439 --> 1:35:41.120 I have the wallet. 1:35:41.160 --> 1:35:42.800 You have the wallet case. So you can't do that. 1:35:42.880 --> 1:35:45.519 I don't. I haven't had a wallet for years, so 1:35:45.680 --> 1:35:49.120 this is my wallet. And then it's been fantastic. And 1:35:49.160 --> 1:35:51.640 then I have a cage. I have a cage on 1:35:51.680 --> 1:35:55.439 my other iPhone. A photographer, I'm always going around with 1:35:55.560 --> 1:35:57.040 multiple iPhones. 1:35:56.840 --> 1:35:57.200 All right. 1:35:57.240 --> 1:35:59.639 So seven hundred and ninety nine dollars for the one 1:35:59.720 --> 1:36:03.479 hundred and twenty eight gigabyte version of this phone, the 1:36:03.520 --> 1:36:06.160 iPhone fourteen plus and yellow starts at eight ninety nine. 1:36:06.600 --> 1:36:08.960 It is going to be available. Let's see. 1:36:08.960 --> 1:36:13.560 I think yesterdaek Yes, wasn't it yesterday? Availability Tuesday, March fourteenth. 1:36:13.600 --> 1:36:16.599 Pre Orders were on Friday. So if you are looking 1:36:16.640 --> 1:36:20.040 to get a yellow phone, there you go, or by yourself. 1:36:20.040 --> 1:36:21.200 It's twenty dollars case. 1:36:21.160 --> 1:36:23.400 Or buy a case. And you know, but here's the thing, people. 1:36:23.920 --> 1:36:26.160 Apple has gotten on this cadence where now they come 1:36:26.160 --> 1:36:28.880 out with a spring color of the iPhone and it's 1:36:28.920 --> 1:36:32.519 always this. You know, it was purple, then it was blue, red, 1:36:32.720 --> 1:36:35.640 now it's yellow. So it just it's just the way 1:36:35.720 --> 1:36:38.759 Apple operates. And I really struggled with this on KTLA 1:36:38.840 --> 1:36:41.200 because I was like, do I mention like, is this one? 1:36:41.280 --> 1:36:43.720 I get three news stories a day? Is that one 1:36:43.720 --> 1:36:44.879 of my news updates? 1:36:44.960 --> 1:36:45.519 I don't know. 1:36:45.600 --> 1:36:48.759 It's just to justify you know it is. Okay, let's 1:36:49.320 --> 1:36:52.040 let's go to Austin in San Diego. 1:36:52.200 --> 1:36:55.680 Austin. You're on with Rich and Jefferson. 1:36:56.240 --> 1:36:57.000 Hey, how's it going? 1:36:57.240 --> 1:36:59.800 That's going great? How about you? Good? 1:37:00.080 --> 1:37:00.360 Great? 1:37:01.200 --> 1:37:02.080 What can we help you with? 1:37:03.320 --> 1:37:03.599 Hey? 1:37:03.640 --> 1:37:07.160 So I was just asking about I've always used Chrome 1:37:07.280 --> 1:37:10.160 as my internet browser, and lately I've been having a 1:37:10.160 --> 1:37:12.400 lot of issues where it keeps popping up saying I 1:37:12.479 --> 1:37:16.840 need to updateate web pages, like for banking. I'll open 1:37:16.880 --> 1:37:19.639 one tab and it loads, you know, six pages, and 1:37:19.920 --> 1:37:22.680 half the pages don't fully load, or it looks like, 1:37:23.280 --> 1:37:27.200 you know, it's an HML HTML page without any kind 1:37:27.280 --> 1:37:30.840 of like anything to it. So question being what would 1:37:30.840 --> 1:37:34.080 be your recommendation for it internet browser if I still 1:37:34.120 --> 1:37:37.960 want the conveniences of Google integration with Chrome. 1:37:38.280 --> 1:37:42.720 Are you running on Windows or Mac Windows? Okay, I 1:37:42.800 --> 1:37:45.040 think you've got some malware on your computer. I think 1:37:45.040 --> 1:37:47.960 that's what's happening. And I will tell you that Chrome 1:37:48.200 --> 1:37:51.599 definitely slows down after a while. So what I would 1:37:51.640 --> 1:37:55.200 do is I've been using actually Edge for a bit, 1:37:55.320 --> 1:37:57.280 which is Microsoft's version of Chrome. 1:37:57.920 --> 1:37:59.360 I don't like it as much as Chrome. I think 1:37:59.439 --> 1:38:00.000 Chrome is better. 1:38:00.240 --> 1:38:04.360 The fact that you're saying you're getting update notifications on Chrome, 1:38:04.400 --> 1:38:05.280 I don't think that's a big deal. 1:38:05.360 --> 1:38:07.240 All you need to do is reopen the app and 1:38:07.280 --> 1:38:07.919 it updates. 1:38:07.960 --> 1:38:09.960 So in fact, I just opened my Chrome and I 1:38:10.000 --> 1:38:12.320 said relaunch Chrome to finish updating. 1:38:12.400 --> 1:38:16.280 So uninstall very simply picking off and reinstall. 1:38:16.400 --> 1:38:18.800 You don't even have to do that. On Windows. There's 1:38:18.880 --> 1:38:21.360 actually a built in they're taking it away, but there's 1:38:21.400 --> 1:38:24.720 a built in reset button on Chrome. Okay, and I 1:38:24.720 --> 1:38:26.719 will tell you where it is. Okay, you go here. 1:38:27.680 --> 1:38:30.160 I have this written down because I actually was going 1:38:30.240 --> 1:38:32.639 to talk about this, but then Google mentioned that they're 1:38:32.640 --> 1:38:35.000 getting rid of it because they said that this sort 1:38:35.000 --> 1:38:37.240 of malware is getting less and less on Chrome, which 1:38:37.280 --> 1:38:40.600 I don't believe. But okay, if you go into menu 1:38:40.880 --> 1:38:46.200 and then settings and then reset and it says reset, boom, 1:38:46.439 --> 1:38:49.439 it will reset all of your values back to zero. 1:38:49.960 --> 1:38:52.439 It will get rid of all any malware that you 1:38:52.520 --> 1:38:55.040 have on your device. It will try to clear that out. 1:38:55.560 --> 1:38:58.400 I would also uninstall any extensions that you have on 1:38:58.479 --> 1:39:01.240 there get rid of those, or if you don't want 1:39:01.280 --> 1:39:03.799 to do that, like Jefferson said, you can just uninstall 1:39:03.840 --> 1:39:06.640 the program reinstall it. But I would do all the 1:39:06.720 --> 1:39:09.160 software updates as well, So if your Windows is not 1:39:09.240 --> 1:39:11.240 up to date, I would do that. You might have 1:39:11.320 --> 1:39:13.599 malware at large on your computer. So if you want 1:39:13.640 --> 1:39:16.080 to run like something like malware bites, do you have 1:39:16.120 --> 1:39:18.519 a preferred program that you like to run for malware 1:39:19.479 --> 1:39:20.360 on Max. 1:39:20.080 --> 1:39:22.200 We don't tend to have problems with malware. 1:39:22.320 --> 1:39:24.599 Yeah, I know that's but there are ways. 1:39:25.080 --> 1:39:27.439 On Mac you can use something like app cleaner to 1:39:27.479 --> 1:39:30.000 get rid of any fragments of programs or things that 1:39:30.040 --> 1:39:32.040 you may not want on there if you're trying to uninstall. 1:39:32.479 --> 1:39:35.559 But that's what I would do. I like Edged. 1:39:35.640 --> 1:39:38.200 I think it works nicely, but I don't like it 1:39:38.240 --> 1:39:41.719 more than Chrome. I think Chrome just recently got faster. 1:39:42.240 --> 1:39:45.360 They just figured out how to optimize the memory for 1:39:45.439 --> 1:39:48.200 the different tabs you have open. They just figured out 1:39:48.200 --> 1:39:50.640 how to do the energy savings on it. So I 1:39:50.680 --> 1:39:55.479 think Chrome is still pretty good for a free web browser, 1:39:55.720 --> 1:39:57.960 and I think it's secure, it's safe, it has all 1:39:58.000 --> 1:40:00.680 the programs you need and you mentioned that you want 1:40:00.720 --> 1:40:03.439 to keep your Google integrations, and Chrome is still the 1:40:03.479 --> 1:40:08.320 best at when you're using Google products like Drive and Gmail. 1:40:08.880 --> 1:40:12.519 It's very good at all the making sure that all 1:40:12.600 --> 1:40:15.160 the features of those programs work in a good way. 1:40:15.400 --> 1:40:18.760 So, Austin, does that answer your question? You're going to 1:40:18.800 --> 1:40:19.360 stick with it? 1:40:21.200 --> 1:40:21.439 Yeah? 1:40:21.479 --> 1:40:26.000 I actually had in your mention of malware, so I 1:40:26.080 --> 1:40:29.479 actually have like a lifetime membership for malware bites. I 1:40:29.520 --> 1:40:34.360 also use Norton and the only extensions on Chrome is 1:40:34.560 --> 1:40:38.599 last Pass, and I think it's like Adobe pdf reader. Okay, 1:40:38.640 --> 1:40:40.519 do you still think Do you still think I could 1:40:40.600 --> 1:40:42.720 have like malware on you could? 1:40:42.800 --> 1:40:45.040 It sounds like something some of the settings. If you're 1:40:45.080 --> 1:40:48.000 opening up like a banking page and six pages are 1:40:48.040 --> 1:40:51.400 opening that are doing different things, that's typically a sign 1:40:51.479 --> 1:40:55.200 of malware. So I would also go through and erase 1:40:55.360 --> 1:40:58.160 all history. So I would go into the history and 1:40:58.200 --> 1:41:01.840 it's there's an option for to erase all of your 1:41:01.920 --> 1:41:04.120 history for for you know, forever and ever, so I 1:41:04.120 --> 1:41:06.160 would do that as well, just to make sure that 1:41:06.200 --> 1:41:08.479 you have nothing on there that's you know, cookie oriented, 1:41:08.479 --> 1:41:11.439 that's messing up things. I would also ditch last Pass, 1:41:11.479 --> 1:41:15.120 honestly because at this point, they've had too many security issues. 1:41:15.160 --> 1:41:16.880 You might want to look into switching to a different 1:41:16.880 --> 1:41:19.960 password manager as well. So basically, Austin, you just have 1:41:20.000 --> 1:41:26.240 to change your entire, your entire operating operators right now. 1:41:26.360 --> 1:41:28.800 So it shouldn't be too tough, though. I think those 1:41:28.800 --> 1:41:29.680 are the things you want to do. 1:41:29.960 --> 1:41:31.720 All right, let me know if that works for you 1:41:31.760 --> 1:41:34.080 with the reset on Chrome before it goes away. Okay, 1:41:34.680 --> 1:41:36.800 all right, I think it's gonna work. Thanks for calling 1:41:36.840 --> 1:41:38.519 from San Diego. Is it raining down there like it 1:41:38.600 --> 1:41:39.080 is up here? 1:41:40.040 --> 1:41:41.920 It's it's on and off. 1:41:42.160 --> 1:41:45.320 Okay, all right, we'll stay dry, all right, thank you? 1:41:45.360 --> 1:41:48.000 All right, all right, let's see do we have time 1:41:48.000 --> 1:41:51.599 to talk about this Apple Classical. They have new Apple 1:41:51.680 --> 1:41:57.080 Music Classical app. Jefferson, Why is Apple making a new app? 1:41:57.400 --> 1:42:02.320 Standalone app designed specifically for classical music? Five million tracks 1:42:02.640 --> 1:42:07.080 from new releases to celebrated masterpieces, thousands of exclusive albums, 1:42:07.080 --> 1:42:09.479 the highest audio quality up to one hundred and ninety two. 1:42:09.960 --> 1:42:13.160 Killer hurts, per Killer hurts? Is that what you say? 1:42:13.280 --> 1:42:13.599 Sure? 1:42:13.720 --> 1:42:14.160 I guess. 1:42:14.920 --> 1:42:18.040 It will launch on March twenty eighth, requires an Apple 1:42:18.120 --> 1:42:22.000 Music subscription. It'll be available everywhere except China. Japan, Korea 1:42:22.040 --> 1:42:27.880 and Taiwan and uh Android version is coming soon. And 1:42:27.960 --> 1:42:30.320 to listen to music on Apple Music Classical you must 1:42:30.360 --> 1:42:31.280 have an Internet connection. 1:42:31.400 --> 1:42:33.840 That's odd. You can't download the music. So why are 1:42:33.840 --> 1:42:35.519 they doing this? I don't understand. Why wouldn't they just 1:42:35.560 --> 1:42:36.920 put this in the Apple Music app. 1:42:37.000 --> 1:42:39.360 Believe you need an Internet connection to listen to Apple 1:42:39.439 --> 1:42:40.200 Music as well. 1:42:40.200 --> 1:42:42.400 You can download the music, yeah, but you have to start. 1:42:42.479 --> 1:42:45.360 I know that's why. But why would they say that specifically? 1:42:45.400 --> 1:42:47.360 Like I get that you need an internet connection to Like, 1:42:47.439 --> 1:42:50.080 it doesn't come with five million songs you just download, right. 1:42:50.439 --> 1:42:53.880 I think they're very smart to do this. I know 1:42:53.920 --> 1:42:57.320 you disagree, but I think it's a very very smart move. Now, 1:42:57.360 --> 1:43:01.200 first of all, remember they bought this classical scription service already, 1:43:01.439 --> 1:43:03.200 so they already own it, so they're just putting their 1:43:03.240 --> 1:43:06.800 name on it. So Spotify is spotty when it comes 1:43:06.800 --> 1:43:09.080 to classical music. They've got some stuff they don't have 1:43:09.120 --> 1:43:13.040 other stuff. YouTube music is spotty. Classical music fans go 1:43:13.080 --> 1:43:16.439 downtown sometime, go stand at Disney Hall. You will see 1:43:16.640 --> 1:43:21.080 some very dedicated classical music lovers. They are really you know, 1:43:21.560 --> 1:43:24.560 but you know, if the grateful dead fans were enthusiastic. 1:43:24.600 --> 1:43:28.920 Classical music fans are incredibly enthusiastic, right, So by targeting 1:43:29.120 --> 1:43:33.799 this audience, they finally have a differentiation for Apple Music. 1:43:33.920 --> 1:43:36.240 It's different from Spotify. Now they have music that the 1:43:36.320 --> 1:43:38.840 other people don't have. They've never had that before. But 1:43:38.880 --> 1:43:40.040 you have to download a separate app. 1:43:40.080 --> 1:43:40.400 I don't know. 1:43:40.439 --> 1:43:42.479 I just don't I get it that they have people 1:43:42.560 --> 1:43:45.960 that are very into this. I don't understand why they 1:43:46.000 --> 1:43:48.040 couldn't just blend it into Apple Music and make it 1:43:48.040 --> 1:43:50.160 a separate area of the app. But to have a 1:43:50.160 --> 1:43:53.599 different app. Maybe if you're into classical, you feel like 1:43:53.640 --> 1:43:54.800 they are speaking to you. 1:43:55.040 --> 1:43:57.000 Do you remember in a more direct way? Do you 1:43:57.000 --> 1:44:00.640 remember once upon a time Tower Records. Yes, there were 1:44:00.640 --> 1:44:03.400 a big, huge, biggest record store and they had a 1:44:03.439 --> 1:44:06.080 separate classical store across the street. Do you remember that. 1:44:06.160 --> 1:44:08.559 I do not remember the classical store, but at store. 1:44:09.000 --> 1:44:10.800 All right, we've got less than a minute. Tell folks 1:44:10.800 --> 1:44:11.360 where they can. 1:44:11.280 --> 1:44:14.920 Find you, photowokstv dot com, Jefferson Graham dot net, look 1:44:14.960 --> 1:44:17.760 for me on YouTube, YouTube dot com, slash Photo, Walks TV. 1:44:18.040 --> 1:44:22.439 Our latest episode just debut today from Clearwater, Florida, and 1:44:22.560 --> 1:44:27.160 I'm working on an episode, thanking viewers for helping me 1:44:27.240 --> 1:44:29.920 cross one million views, which happened this week. 1:44:30.080 --> 1:44:32.720 Amazing, I see I need the little congrats. All right, 1:44:32.720 --> 1:44:34.679 thanks so much for joining me in the studio today. 1:44:34.720 --> 1:44:37.479 I appreciate it. We had some fun here with the callers. 1:44:37.960 --> 1:44:40.160 We're going to wrap up the show coming up next. 1:44:40.760 --> 1:44:42.720 More of your calls if I can fit one more 1:44:42.760 --> 1:44:45.040 in at triple eight Rich one O one. That's eight 1:44:45.080 --> 1:44:48.320 eight eight seven four to two, four to one zero one. 1:44:48.360 --> 1:44:53.920 You are listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to 1:44:54.360 --> 1:44:59.720 rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here talking technology online. 1:45:00.479 --> 1:45:01.519 Rich on Tech. 1:45:01.600 --> 1:45:04.080 That's all of my social media is under that so 1:45:04.120 --> 1:45:06.720 if you want to find me online, that's where you 1:45:06.720 --> 1:45:10.200 can do it. Tony is in Daytona Beach, Florida. Tony, 1:45:10.240 --> 1:45:15.959 you're on with Rich. Hey, Rich's great. 1:45:16.240 --> 1:45:17.120 What can I help you with? 1:45:18.280 --> 1:45:24.559 Okay? I write copies sometimes for a radio talk show 1:45:25.120 --> 1:45:30.320 like uh, you guys should do sure and uh sometimes 1:45:30.360 --> 1:45:35.400 they run. It's like writing a long letter and I'm 1:45:35.439 --> 1:45:41.680 looking for the best format, in the easiest format to 1:45:42.320 --> 1:45:47.960 write a letter like that and easy to control, like 1:45:48.280 --> 1:45:54.680 h Yahoo or Google or your Facebook or what's what 1:45:54.960 --> 1:45:59.680 site I should go to Okay, it's the best email format. 1:45:59.320 --> 1:46:04.280 Like that email. Oh email program? Okay, got it? Okay, email. Well, 1:46:04.320 --> 1:46:06.920 I mean I think that, uh Google, I use Google 1:46:06.960 --> 1:46:10.920 Docs for everything. I use Gmail for everything, and I 1:46:10.960 --> 1:46:13.719 would say those are probably your best combination. I also 1:46:13.720 --> 1:46:16.240 wrote a book, and I wrote the entire book in 1:46:16.640 --> 1:46:20.519 a combination of Apple Notes and then Google Docs, so 1:46:20.840 --> 1:46:23.439 I've written large amounts of text. I do the entire 1:46:23.479 --> 1:46:27.519 planning of this show on Google Docs and also through 1:46:27.520 --> 1:46:30.800 my email program as well, So I don't think you 1:46:30.840 --> 1:46:31.960 need anything special. 1:46:32.000 --> 1:46:32.960 Those are all free. 1:46:33.720 --> 1:46:36.360 And the one trick I would tell you with Google 1:46:36.400 --> 1:46:39.439 Docs is if you type in your once you sign 1:46:39.560 --> 1:46:41.280 up for g you know, Google, and have all your 1:46:41.320 --> 1:46:43.240 stuff figured out and you're logged in, if you type 1:46:43.240 --> 1:46:47.880 in doc dot new on your web browser, that will 1:46:47.880 --> 1:46:50.160 open up a new document. So if you're trying to 1:46:50.200 --> 1:46:52.920 just do something fast and quick and easy and you 1:46:52.920 --> 1:46:54.600 don't want to have to go through, just type in 1:46:54.680 --> 1:46:56.920 doct new and that will open up a fresh document 1:46:56.960 --> 1:46:59.599 for you on your on your web browser. So that's 1:46:59.640 --> 1:47:02.120 the way I do it. I organize everything through there. Now, 1:47:02.120 --> 1:47:04.800 when I wrote my book, I use a program to 1:47:05.560 --> 1:47:09.600 publish it. It was called Vellum v E L l 1:47:09.800 --> 1:47:13.840 U M. But that's really a book publishing app. And 1:47:13.880 --> 1:47:17.160 I also tested out another app. It was called I 1:47:17.200 --> 1:47:20.880 believe it was Scrivener, But it doesn't sound like you 1:47:20.960 --> 1:47:24.960 wanted to write a book. It sounds like you're just 1:47:25.000 --> 1:47:27.679 writing scripts and things like that. And with the scripts 1:47:27.720 --> 1:47:29.760 if you want, you know, I know, for radio and 1:47:29.800 --> 1:47:33.120 TV sometimes scripts need to fit a certain format. So 1:47:33.240 --> 1:47:36.760 in that case, I actually make a template of what 1:47:36.840 --> 1:47:39.519 a script typically looks like, which is two columns and 1:47:39.560 --> 1:47:42.160 one side is bigger than the other, and just large 1:47:42.200 --> 1:47:44.200 text on there as well, so you can do that too. 1:47:44.760 --> 1:47:47.920 The other program I really like for writing is called 1:47:48.040 --> 1:47:51.240 Bear B E A R. And what's great about this, 1:47:51.439 --> 1:47:53.320 and Tony, this may work for you since you're doing 1:47:53.360 --> 1:47:56.120 stuff that's for radio and you might need to time 1:47:56.200 --> 1:47:58.240 stuff out. What I love about Bear is that it 1:47:58.360 --> 1:48:01.519 times out what you write. So if you go into 1:48:01.640 --> 1:48:04.080 something that you wrote in Bear, there's a little icon 1:48:04.560 --> 1:48:06.880 and it tells you how many words, how many characters, 1:48:07.080 --> 1:48:09.320 how many paragraphs. But the best part is it tells 1:48:09.360 --> 1:48:12.160 you how long it takes to read that. And for me, 1:48:12.360 --> 1:48:14.720 that is very very handy when I'm writing things for 1:48:14.800 --> 1:48:17.040 this show when I want to hit a certain amount 1:48:17.080 --> 1:48:19.400 of time. In this case, I'm trying to hit a 1:48:19.439 --> 1:48:23.280 thirty second commercial. And so if I'm writing something that's 1:48:23.280 --> 1:48:25.600 a promotion for my show, I want to hit that 1:48:25.600 --> 1:48:30.200 twenty nine seconds. So Bear that is only available on iOS, 1:48:30.320 --> 1:48:33.360 So that is something that is on iOS and Mac only. 1:48:33.400 --> 1:48:35.760 They do not have a version that is available to 1:48:36.479 --> 1:48:40.120 the Windows platform. But that's a really handy program. I 1:48:40.240 --> 1:48:42.400 use a lot of programs actually to write stuff, now 1:48:42.400 --> 1:48:43.439 that I think about it. 1:48:43.520 --> 1:48:44.599 So I also use. 1:48:46.280 --> 1:48:50.080 Another app that is the Apple Notes app, but that's 1:48:50.160 --> 1:48:51.439 really just for more like notes. 1:48:51.479 --> 1:48:52.599 I also use Google Keep. 1:48:52.600 --> 1:48:54.200 I mean, there's so many ways you can do this 1:48:54.720 --> 1:48:56.920 that it really just comes down to what you use 1:48:57.000 --> 1:48:59.400 the most. And that's what I found is that you 1:48:59.520 --> 1:49:01.880 just have to use and keep using it and have 1:49:01.960 --> 1:49:03.280 your system down and that's the. 1:49:03.200 --> 1:49:05.320 Best way to do it. All right. 1:49:06.040 --> 1:49:07.880 Let me tell you about this scam real quick before 1:49:07.880 --> 1:49:09.640 we go, because I think it's important for you to 1:49:09.680 --> 1:49:12.400 know that we've heard so much about AI, but now 1:49:12.439 --> 1:49:17.519 scammers are already using AI to impersonate people that we 1:49:17.640 --> 1:49:20.639 know family members to call us and try to scam 1:49:20.680 --> 1:49:23.600 us out of money. So they have these very sophisticated 1:49:23.640 --> 1:49:26.200 programs that are off the shelf. You feed some audio 1:49:26.280 --> 1:49:29.080 into them, and now you can sound like that person 1:49:29.200 --> 1:49:31.880 just by typing out those words. And so this is 1:49:32.080 --> 1:49:35.519 AI that is being used in a very mean way 1:49:35.880 --> 1:49:38.880 against us. So if you get a phone call that 1:49:38.920 --> 1:49:41.400 purports to be from a loved one that needs money, 1:49:41.439 --> 1:49:45.120 that's in jail, that's whatever. It may just be an 1:49:45.160 --> 1:49:48.120 AI voice that sounds like that loved one. So when 1:49:48.160 --> 1:49:52.360 in doubt, call them up, call someone check on them, 1:49:52.640 --> 1:49:54.920 text them. Do not just go to the bank and 1:49:54.960 --> 1:49:57.240 try to withdraw money and send it to this person 1:49:57.280 --> 1:49:59.640 that's asking you for the money, because it's probably not 1:50:00.160 --> 1:50:02.759 I'll put the link to the Washington Post article about 1:50:02.760 --> 1:50:07.000 these new AI voice scams in the show notes as well. 1:50:08.000 --> 1:50:11.400 And finally, Vinyl overtook CD sales for the first time 1:50:11.479 --> 1:50:15.040 since nineteen eighty seven. I've been talking about Vinyl in 1:50:15.120 --> 1:50:19.000 my KTLA reports, how people seem to like it. Forty 1:50:19.000 --> 1:50:22.360 one million units they sold against thirty three million for 1:50:22.439 --> 1:50:26.240 CDs in the past year. Vinyl sales have increased over 1:50:26.240 --> 1:50:29.360 the past sixteen years. They're now seventy one percent of 1:50:29.400 --> 1:50:33.519 all physical music. Taylor Swift, of course, highest selling vinyl artists. 1:50:33.560 --> 1:50:37.200 She sold some one point seven million records. Harry Styles 1:50:37.360 --> 1:50:41.080 sold seven hundred and nineteen thousand, The Beatles still kicking 1:50:41.240 --> 1:50:44.800 five hundred and fifty three thousand sales. Of course, Spotify 1:50:44.840 --> 1:50:48.200 and Apple Music and streaming is still the most popular 1:50:48.240 --> 1:50:49.519 way to listen to music. 1:50:50.120 --> 1:50:52.439 All right, that is going to do it for this show. 1:50:52.600 --> 1:50:55.360 Thanks so much for listening. Thanks to all of my 1:50:55.479 --> 1:50:57.559 guests today. We had so many great guests. I know 1:50:57.600 --> 1:51:00.720 there's a little problem with the phone lines, so apologies 1:51:00.760 --> 1:51:02.960 for that, and thanks for working through that. You know, 1:51:03.000 --> 1:51:05.479 this is a growing show. This is only episode number ten, 1:51:05.840 --> 1:51:07.880 so we're still learning. I'm still learning how to do 1:51:07.920 --> 1:51:11.120 this whole radio thing, so I do appreciate you hanging 1:51:11.120 --> 1:51:13.920 out with me. Next week, we are going to talk 1:51:14.280 --> 1:51:18.280 to Ember about their self heating baby bottle. No longer 1:51:18.720 --> 1:51:21.080 is it good to be born with a silver spoon 1:51:21.120 --> 1:51:23.360 in your mouth. Now you can be born with a 1:51:23.479 --> 1:51:26.360 four hundred dollars self heating baby bottle in your mouth, 1:51:26.600 --> 1:51:28.280 and we're going to talk to the company that makes that. 1:51:29.000 --> 1:51:31.160 You can find me on social media at rich on tech, 1:51:31.200 --> 1:51:34.679 my website, richontech dot tv. My name is rich Dmiro. 1:51:34.840 --> 1:51:36.719 Thanks so much for listening. There are so many ways 1:51:36.760 --> 1:51:38.880 you can spend your time. I do appreciate you spending 1:51:38.920 --> 1:51:41.200 it right here with me. I'll talk to you real 1:51:41.280 --> 1:51:41.479 soon