1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: A major lifeline bank to the tech industry fails. Ring 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: launches its best video doorbell yet, spring Break, travel apps 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: plus your tech questions answered. What is going on? I'm 4 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: Rich Demiro and this is Rich on Tech, the show 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: where I talk about the tech stuff I think you 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: should know about. It's also the place where I answer 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: your questions about technology. I'm the tech reporter at KTLA 8 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: Channel five in Los Angeles. Welcome to the show. Phone 9 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: lines are now open at one eight eight eight Rich 10 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: one oh one, that's triple eight seven four to two, 11 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: four to one zero one. Give me a call if 12 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: you have a question about technology. I will do my 13 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: best to answer it. 14 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 2: Well. 15 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: It is a really big day in the tech world. 16 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: Not for a good reason, but for a pretty bad reason. 17 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: A major bank that provides a lot of banking services 18 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: to Silicon Valley has collapsed. It's Silicon Valley Bank. That's 19 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: the name of the bank. You probably haven't heard of it. 20 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: It's a regional bank, but it is very popular among 21 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: the tech community. We're talking VC funds. These are the 22 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: people that hand out money to startups to help them 23 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: create new businesses that might one day become an uber 24 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: or a Twitter or a square or anything else we've 25 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: heard of. They all started with VC funds. Founders do 26 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: business here. Tech industry employees do business at this bank. 27 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: Imagine you going to your bank and it's closed, and 28 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: they say you can't transfer money out, you can't use 29 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: your online banking app, you can't do anything. Your money's 30 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: just stuck. Imagine that feeling. That is the feeling right 31 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: now among thousands of people in the tech industry right now, 32 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: that uncertainty where is my money going to come from? 33 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: How am I going to access this? Am I going 34 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: to get it? This bank is now under the protection 35 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: of the US government. Now I've said in the past 36 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: that this is a tech show for the average consumer. 37 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: So you might be wondering, well, Rich, how does this 38 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: really affect me? Well, in a lot of different ways, 39 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: Because number one, this is something we haven't seen in 40 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: a very long time. A bank of this stature, a 41 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: bank this big, has not failed since two thousand and 42 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: eight with Washington Mutual, remember that bank. So we haven't 43 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: seen something of this magnitude in a very long time. 44 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: Plus the repercussions of just how this will sort of 45 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: go through the tech industry. So I mentioned these startups 46 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: that rely on this bank. So many of these startups 47 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: now may just not be able to make payroll or 48 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: not be able to pay their employees, or the people 49 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: that work at these companies can't do anything. 50 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 3: Their hands are tied. So how did this all happen? 51 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: Well, I'm not an expert in financials, but basically people 52 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: lost confidence in this bank for no really good reason. 53 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 3: The actually put out a press. 54 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: Release saying what they were going to do, how they 55 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: were going to raise money, what they were doing to 56 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: kind of, you know, even shore up their financials, and 57 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: people saw that as a signal to say, ooh, I'm 58 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: not really sure. I like what's happening here, let's go 59 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: And so the stock price plunged. Then people did a 60 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: run on deposits, so old fashioned bank run. People just 61 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: said hey, I want my money, I want out. And 62 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: then when people started doing that, it's snowballed until everyone 63 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: had to say, okay, stop, stop stop. Government stepped in, 64 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: FDIC takes over, and now this bank is under the 65 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: power of the US government. Now for all we know, 66 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: the bank's financials were actually very sound. So that's what's 67 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: scary here is that this was an old fashioned bank 68 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: run where people just said, you know what, I want 69 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: out and I'm done. And now this bank is just 70 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: affecting so many people's livelihoods. Like I said, the big 71 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: issue here, so many startups rely on this bank. So 72 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: for all these people that had their banking here, this 73 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: is a big period of uncertainty. This is going to 74 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: impact startups, founders, employees, payrolls probably will not. 75 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 3: Be met this week. 76 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: So I'm looking at this press release from the FDIC 77 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: and this is like when you realize that government is 78 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: you know, there's a reason why some of these things 79 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: are in place. So to protect insured depositors, the FDIC 80 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: has created the Deposit Insurance National Bank of Santa Clara DNB. 81 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: SO at the time of closing, this was on Friday afternoon, 82 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: the FDIC has now received transfership of all insured deposits 83 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: at Silicon Valley Bank. Now insured deposits is the keyword here. 84 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: All insured depositors will have full access to their insured 85 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: deposits no later than Monday morning, March thirteenth. But here's 86 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: the thing. If you know that insured deposit, that number 87 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: is not very high when it comes to how much 88 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: money some people may have had in this bank. Especial 89 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: if you're a small business, two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. 90 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: That's the standard insurance among any bank in America. So 91 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: when you have a bank account somewhere or multiple bank accounts, 92 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: you are insured up to two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. 93 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: Anything after that, there's really no saying you're not necessarily 94 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: guaranteed that money in the case of something like this happening. 95 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: So uninsured depositors are going to get so after their 96 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty thousand, a receivership certificate for the 97 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: remaining amount of their uninsured funds. So what does that mean. 98 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: That means you get a little certificate that says, uh, yeah, 99 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: we know you had a lot of money at this bank, 100 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: but we're just gonna give you this little piece of 101 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: paper that says we're going to try to get your 102 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: money back to you. But there's no guarantees. So as 103 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: the FDIC sells the assets of this Silicon Valley Bank, 104 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: future dividend payments may be made to uninsured depositors. How 105 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: would you feel if if you were a startup and 106 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: you had, you know, you went through this whole process 107 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: of going to these vcs getting a couple of million 108 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: dollars to art your company. Maybe it's not a ton 109 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: of money in the scheme of things, but you know, 110 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: to you it is a couple million to start your 111 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: new business. And next thing you know, you've got two 112 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: fifty and that's it. And the rest of this money 113 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: is just who knows when it may come. Silicon Valley 114 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: Bank had seventeen branches in California and Massachusetts. The main 115 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: office and all branches will reopen on Monday, March thirteenth. 116 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: They're going to maintain their normal business hours, but again 117 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: under the guise of the government, and banking activities will 118 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: resume no later than Monday, March thirteenth, including online banking 119 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: and other services. So you can bet when this online 120 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: banking fires up again on Monday, what do you think 121 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: people are going to do immediately? They're going to try 122 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: to get as much funds out of this bank as 123 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: humanly possible in the shortest amount of time. Official checks 124 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: will continue to clear. As of December thirty first, Silicon 125 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: Valley Bank had approximately two hundred and nine billion dollars 126 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: in total assets and about one hundred and seventy five 127 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: billion in deposit. Now I'm no math whiz, but I'm 128 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: just doing the math right there, two nine minus one 129 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: seventy five. That leaves about thirty five million dollars on accounted. 130 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: So right there, there's a problem. And that's typically you know, 131 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: banks operate this way. When you put your money in 132 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: a bank, it's not sitting there. I mean I learned 133 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: this in like first grade. 134 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 3: They don't just sit. 135 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: They don't just take your dollar bill and put it 136 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: in a safe and it stays there until you request it. Again, no, no, no, 137 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: they take that dollar bill and they loan it out 138 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: to people, and in that loan they make, you know, 139 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: millions upon millions of loans. They make money on the loans, 140 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: and that's how they're able to pay you that paltry 141 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: interest rate that you get on your savings account. So 142 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,239 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to figure that part out as well. Now, 143 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: again I am reading a press release from the government. 144 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: What do you think the government's role in this is? 145 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: They want people to think that everything's going to be okay, 146 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: and this is just very simple. This is a very 147 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: easy process. Obviously that is not the case. The repercussions 148 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: of this are still very undetermined. We don't know how 149 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: people are going to react. We don't know what people 150 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: are going to do. In fact, I would gather that 151 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: even folks that have business at other banks are going 152 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: to say, Hey, I want some of my money back 153 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: right now. I want to take some of that money 154 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: out because I just I'm losing confidence now, especially when 155 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: it comes to banks that might be a bit smaller 156 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: than the big banks. The big banks, yeah, they'll probably 157 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 1: be okay. The smaller banks, which people favor because of 158 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: their service, because of the loans they can get, because 159 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: of the hands on approach. That's where we may be 160 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: in trouble because again I mentioned earlier that you probably 161 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: never heard of this bank. But if you're in Silicon Valley, 162 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: there are banks that people do business with regularly because 163 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: they understand the startup world. They understand what it's like 164 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: to start a company. They understand the term bootstrapped, and 165 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: they understand, you know, having employees and making payroll and 166 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: this is not Facebooks of the world. They're going to 167 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: be just fine. The Googles of the world, they'll be 168 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: just fine. These are all the apps that you might 169 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: have on your phone that are brand new, that are small. 170 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: I can think of several on my phone right now 171 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: that I'm like, hmm, what's going to happen when this 172 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: company can't continue to operate because their money is just 173 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 1: held up or not there. And so again, the repercussions 174 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: of this will be felt by consumers, by you and me. 175 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: It's a scary thing. I mean, you know, I've gone 176 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: through this once in my life, with this whole bust, 177 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: actually twice now. I remember specifically the bust of you know, 178 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: about nineteen ninety nine, two thousand and you know, we 179 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: saw all these tech companies just implode. And it was 180 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: the wild part was that the Super Bowl, I believe 181 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: it was probably nineteen ninety six, ninety seven something like that. 182 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: All of the commercials in the Super Bowl were startups 183 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: you'd never heard of in your life, pets dot Com 184 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 1: and all these different companies. And you sat there and 185 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: he said, how did they afford super Bowl commercials? 186 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 3: Howdid this pets dot Com I've never heard of? 187 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: How can they go up against all these pet companies 188 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: that we know and love, like a pet Co or something. 189 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: And sure enough, yeah, it was it was all just 190 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: you know, it was all before its time. Now, tech 191 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: companies have taken ten years to recover from that moment, 192 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: and they've learned a lot from that. And then of 193 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: course we saw the housing bust in two thousand and 194 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: eight and that was a big deal, and of course 195 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: the government bailed out a lot of big financial firms 196 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: during that time. So this will be another lesson learned. 197 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: It's not over yet. 198 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 4: I know. 199 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: It's not the exciting way to start the show that 200 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 1: I typically do, and you know, I feel like it's 201 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: important just because we need to understand that when one 202 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: thing unravels, it has effects on the rest of our world, 203 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 1: whether it's you, whether it's me, whether these startups, and 204 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: as just a human I feel for these people that 205 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: are sitting there just very uncertain right now. I mean, 206 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: we're only twenty four forty eight seventy two hours into 207 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: this and there's still a lot ahead, all Right, we 208 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: got a lot more coming up on the show. We're 209 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: going to talk about that a little bit more later 210 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: on in the show. I've got kaya Yurief in south 211 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: By Southwest and Austin, Texas. She said that already that 212 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: is the talk of the town. So we're going to 213 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: talk to her about what founders are saying down there. Also, 214 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about the yellow iPhone. Yes, this week 215 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 1: Apple released a new iPhone that's just a different color, 216 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: so we'll talk about that. Facebook is making a big 217 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: change to Facebook Messenger, kind of doing it about face, 218 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: so we'll talk about that. 219 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 3: Plus. 220 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: My other guests this week include John Faulkner from Clean 221 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 1: Fleet Report, We're gonna talk evs, and Jefferson. 222 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 3: Graham Live in studio. 223 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 1: You may know him as the former editor at USA 224 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: Today Talking Tech. He's going to join me here live 225 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: plus your calls at triple eight Rich one oh one. 226 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: That's eight eight eight seven four to two, four to 227 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: one zero one. My name is rich DeMuro. You are 228 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. 229 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: My name is rich de Muro, sitting here talk looking 230 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: technology with you. You can find me online on all 231 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: social media at rich on Tech. 232 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 3: What a week. This was a this was a this 233 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 3: was a week for me man. 234 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it's so interesting that so many of these 235 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: tech events and things were sort of sidelined for many, 236 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: many years, like three years. I'm talking virtual events with Google, Apple, 237 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: you know, Facebook, whatever you name it. These companies all 238 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 1: just you know, went to hibernation for a couple of years, 239 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: and so all these events that I would go to 240 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: and all these things I get invited to just kind 241 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: of stopped. And it was nice because it was relaxing. 242 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: The bad side is that now everything's starting up again. 243 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: I guess it's not bad, it's just it went from 244 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: like zero to one hundred. So I just rattle off 245 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: to my wife every week, like how many things I'm 246 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 1: getting invited to that either I can't go to or 247 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: it's just conflicting or whatever. And you got to pick 248 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: and choose because it's a lot of travel. I got 249 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: two kids. Can't go to everything, right, But I did 250 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: go to a couple of things this week. First off, Vegas, 251 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: so this was I was actually supposed to shoot a 252 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: story there on Monday, but at the last minute it 253 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: got kind of canceled. 254 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 3: And the story is really cool. It's can I talk 255 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 3: about it? Maybe I shouldn't. 256 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 1: It's a company that's starting up that's uh, they're remote 257 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: remote driving cars. Let's put it that way. So this 258 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 1: car that's driving you is actually remotely driven. So it's 259 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: it's I don't want to give the whole thing away 260 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: right now, because I do want to do a story 261 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: with them, and it's just so super super cool. But 262 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: if you like, let's just put it this way, if 263 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: your kid is playing video games with one of those 264 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: like you know, steering wheel controllers at this point, they 265 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: may have a future with this startup because that's basically 266 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: what they're doing, except they're driving real cars on real 267 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: streets from a remote place. So anyway, that got canceled. 268 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: So my wife and I were supposed to go to 269 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: Vegas anyway and pick up this story, and so we're like, 270 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: you know what, let's just go. 271 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 3: So we be lined it to Vegas. 272 00:13:55,679 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: And as a tech person, I am always interested in 273 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: seeing sort of tech in action, right, So no matter 274 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: what I mean, I think there's this like term for 275 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,839 Speaker 1: like people always be closing, for like a you know, salesperson. 276 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: For me, it's ABT always be testing. So when I'm 277 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: doing something, and I mentioned this last time, how I 278 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: went to the airport and I charged my cars and 279 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: wanted to see how the charging works, the EV charging 280 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: at the airport. So you know, it takes a little 281 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: bit longer, and it takes it's a little bit more 282 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: in depth for me, you know, involved I should say, 283 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: bringing multiple phones, trying out multiple apps. But anyway, let 284 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: me go through the different things that I was sort 285 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: of testing along the way, just on a regular trip 286 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: to Vegas. And I know people love or hate Vegas. 287 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: I'm one of those people that I love it when 288 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: I am anticipating going there, and I hate the drive 289 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: home or I hate coming home because you're not feeling 290 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: so good, you know what I mean. So let's start 291 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: with the parking. So at Lax, reserve the parking online, 292 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: which they they just readed all the parking at Lax 293 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: and so it's all high tech, it's all new. Of 294 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: course they increased the price, but I reserve my parking online, 295 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: and there isn't a thing that I'm there's always a 296 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: lesson in all this stuff. But the reason why I 297 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: mentioned this is because you should always try to do 298 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: stuff online or through the app as much as possible 299 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: right now, because this is where all the companies are 300 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: trying to get you to go, and so they're giving 301 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: you some discounts. So by booking my parking online, it 302 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: was cheaper than driving up and booking it in person 303 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: or just taking a ticket, So I saved like twenty 304 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: thirty bucks. The thing I thought was cool about it, 305 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: and I wondered if they did this, But they asked 306 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: me to put my license plate in the account when 307 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: I paid for my parking, and I was like, I 308 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: wonder if they're going to like automatically let me into 309 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: the parking lot when it does a read of my 310 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: license plate. And sure enough, I've drove up to the 311 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: little guard rail and the thing just rose when it 312 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: saw my license plate. So I thought that was pretty cool. 313 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: And then I was like, all right, let's see if 314 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: they're really good. Let's see if this works on the exit. 315 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: And sure enough I didn't have to pull out a ticket. 316 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: I didn't have to do anything. I just drove to 317 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: the exit of the parking garage. It recognized my license 318 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: plate once again, the little pole lifted, and it was great. 319 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: At the airport, I got a salad from this vending 320 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: machine they call Farmer's Fridge, but I thought was pretty cool. 321 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: So it's a high tech vending machine that has fresh 322 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: salads in there. And what's neat about this is that 323 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: it's just neat. I mean to have They emailed me 324 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: because once I tweeted about they have six hundred fridge 325 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: and wholesale locations nationwide. I had no idea. This is 326 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: like a logistical nightmare to get these fresh salads across 327 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: the nation to all of these different vending machines, but 328 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: it was excellent on my way. I use this app 329 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: called Flighty if you want a really good flight tracking app. 330 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna talk more about spring break apps and 331 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: a little bit, but this one is called Flighty. It's 332 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: really the most beautiful tracking app for flights you could 333 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: ever imagine on iOS. And yes, you're gonna have to 334 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: pay if you really want the best features. But what 335 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: I love about this app is that it looks back 336 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: through all of your previous flights and it will show 337 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: you how many miles you've flown and how many different 338 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: times you've gone to different places. So I can look 339 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 1: at my lifetime miles and see that I've gone five 340 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty one thousand miles two hundred and forty 341 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: eight twenty one point three times around the world, and 342 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 1: I've been to forty six airports twelve countries, and I've 343 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: flown for fifty one days. 344 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 3: Now. 345 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: This is all just what they found in my email, 346 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: and it only goes back to uh well, twenty thirteen 347 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: according to them. But anyway, that's the kind of cool stuff. 348 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: And then when you're in Vegas, Oh my gosh, has 349 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: tech taken over? I remember when there were little change 350 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: carts and buckets for coins, and now it is all 351 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 1: cash less. I mean, I guess it's not cashless, it's 352 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: just cash. And those cash machines, by the way, they 353 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: don't even give you change. When you've got, like, you know, 354 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 1: twenty one dollars and twenty two cents to cash out, 355 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: they just give you the twenty one bucks and then 356 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: you could donate the rest of charity, many many more things. 357 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: I'll talk more about Vegas after the break. Phone lines 358 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: are open triple eight rich one oh one. That's eight 359 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: eight eight seven four to two, four to one zero one. 360 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: If you got voicemail, give me a call again. Phone 361 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: lines are open. Welcome back to rich On Tech. Phone 362 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: lines are open at triple eight rich one oh one. 363 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: That's eight eight eight seven four to two, four to 364 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: one zero one. If you get the voice, bail on 365 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: the first try. Try calling again. All right, So south 366 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: By Southwest is happening in Austin, Texas. It is one 367 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: of my favorite things to go to, even though I 368 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: have not been there in a while. It's just it's 369 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: it's always just right after CS and you know, I'm anyway, 370 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: so uh Kaya Yuif is a reporter for the Information 371 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 1: and she is down there, and Kaya, how is it Welcome. 372 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,959 Speaker 5: To the show, Hi Rich, thanks for having me. I mean, 373 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 5: it feels like it's back. I was here last year 374 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 5: and it was firstly attended. We were coming out of Omicron. 375 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 5: Still there were all sorts of restrictions, so there's tons 376 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,239 Speaker 5: of hus one bustle. The events are very busy, so 377 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 5: it does feel like we're. 378 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 3: Back in action here now. 379 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 1: South By Southwest IF for the uninitiated, is kind of 380 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: it started out as like a music festival and then 381 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: it was music interactive and oh film, So there's like 382 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: three kind of tracks at this festival, and tech is 383 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: a big part of it, and a lot of tech 384 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: folks go there to talk about stuff and to discuss 385 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: kind of the issues or things that are happening in 386 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: the industry. But it's also a place where many startups 387 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: have gotten their start, Like I mean, I think Twitter, Kaya, 388 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: can you help me out here? 389 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 3: Was it Twitter? Like yep? 390 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 5: Twitter, Fourth Square? There were a few really big ones 391 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 5: that came out of it. 392 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, so every year I would go and I would 393 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: just kind of walk around and see what the startups were, 394 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: which ones looked cool, and of course they were always 395 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: giving out like little swag. And you know, the thing 396 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 1: is everyone's trying to get your attention. That's really what 397 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: it comes down to. If you're a startup, they're all 398 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: just trying to get your attention. So kaya, first off, 399 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: the big news of the day this SVB, this Silicon 400 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: Valley Bank. 401 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 3: I assume that's just what everyone talking about. 402 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean absolutely, you have you know, on one hand, 403 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 5: you have the festival attack, people are excited, but you 404 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 5: do have this news of Fulican Valley Bank's implosion hanging 405 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 5: over the kickoffs, you know, as founders and vcs descended 406 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 5: on Austin yesterday. So we're telling me they were scrapping 407 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 5: their evening plans or you know, trying to just navigate 408 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 5: the unfolding situation. So pretty much every conversation that, every 409 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 5: conversation I've had with people has touched on a sub. 410 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: And so my sort of thought is that this is 411 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: obviously just starting. This is just the beginning. I'm not 412 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: saying other banks will fail. I mean, we don't know 413 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: if that's going to happen or not, but it does 414 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: have repercussions throughout the industry that we may not understand 415 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: just yet. I mean, a lot of these startups use 416 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 1: this bank and may not have access to their capital 417 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: at this point, right. 418 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely, The Information has done a ton of reporting 419 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 5: on this. I Mean, the big issue immedia issue is 420 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 5: making payroll, so startups are really trying to figure that out. 421 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 5: You know, it's possible a buyer will come in as well. 422 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 5: So this is really unfolding and could change by the minute, 423 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 5: or the day or the hour. 424 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: So besides that, what is kind of what is some 425 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: of the main themes you're seeing this year? I mean, 426 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,719 Speaker 1: obviously crypto is always kind of a lingering in the 427 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: tech world. 428 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 3: Is that a big thought this year? 429 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 5: So it's funny because last year it was you could 430 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 5: not escape crypto. There were flyers everywhere for crypto projects. 431 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 5: One of the most popular activations was from Doodles, which 432 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 5: was an NFT project that's very pastel you pastel themes, 433 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 5: there were long lines to get into it. This year 434 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 5: it's pretty much crickets. I mean, there are still webs 435 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 5: three and crypto panels going on, but the big scene 436 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 5: is definitely AI. So we've done this, this pivot from 437 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 5: crypto to AI. Last year I went to a brunch 438 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 5: for women in Websterree and this year I was invited 439 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 5: to an AI brunch, So you're really seeing kind of 440 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 5: the sharp move to AI here this year. 441 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: I feel like with the tech industry at this point, 442 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: it is like just imagine a bunch of people like 443 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 1: sitting in a in an auditorium and just looking over 444 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: the left ah, looking over to the right, ah, looking 445 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: over to the middle AH. So it's like all these 446 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: different things that the industry kind of fixates on. Crypto 447 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: definitely had its time. It seems like there's less interest 448 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: these days, clearly because of what happened with FTX and 449 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: all the collapse of that. But now AI, I don't 450 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: see the same future for that like AI. Well, there's 451 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: also VR was in there where people were all excited 452 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: about VR, which I still think is gonna happen, but 453 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: it's AI has seemed to happen the fastest out of 454 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: anything we've seen so far. 455 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 3: Would that be kind of accurate? 456 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely, And I think the focus is really on 457 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 5: generative AI so we've seen obviously open ais chat GBT 458 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 5: takes the world by storm over the past few weeks 459 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 5: and months. So it's not even it's AI, but it's 460 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 5: also generative AI and kind of what the applications can 461 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 5: look like. 462 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, explain can you explain that a little bit? What 463 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 3: does that mean? 464 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 4: Yeah? 465 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 5: I think the difference is it's tangible, right, you can 466 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 5: go into this chat box and ask it to write 467 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 5: something for you and it does it. Whereas I think 468 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 5: with a lot of these webs free and crypto applications, 469 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 5: it was still, you know, very much still an idea 470 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 5: versus the tech wasn't totally there yet. So I think 471 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 5: that's part of the reason. But I think it's also 472 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 5: really useful and has really strong consumer application. 473 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I know personally, I've been using the bing 474 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: ai since I got access to the wait list feature, 475 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: you know, like the bing dot com slash new, and 476 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: I've now been using it on a daily basis because 477 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: it's so interesting, especially having it on my phone. Like 478 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: the other night, I was at a concert and there 479 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 1: was three artists, and typically I would look up those 480 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: artists on Google and just get like a little background 481 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 1: of them, and you know, Google has its way of 482 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: kind of putting different information front and center when you 483 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: Google someone, but with this being AI, it pretty much 484 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 1: gives me like a biography of them that's sort of 485 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 1: written up just for me, And it's just a whole 486 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: different way of thinking about getting information, which I think 487 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: is really fascinating to me. 488 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely. So we've we've seen a lot of that. 489 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 5: I haven't got for a ton of sessions yet on 490 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 5: jener to AI, but it's very hard to escape this 491 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 5: year now. 492 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 3: You cover creator economy in. 493 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 2: A big way. 494 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: Yes, I do, So tell me about that. I mean, 495 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: what's what's going on with that? Especially at south By 496 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: and are we seeing anything new with that? 497 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 6: Yeah? 498 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 5: I think with the Creator company. The main event that 499 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 5: I went to yesterday was an event thrown by Doing 500 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 5: Things Media. It's a meme account that raised over twenty 501 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 5: million dollars in VC funding last year. They're behind popular 502 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 5: Meana accounts, and they actually acquired another meme account called Overheard. 503 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 5: I don't know if you know overheard La, but it's 504 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 5: a pretty funny account. So they threw a big party yesterday. 505 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 5: It's interesting because last year there were companies like Patreon. 506 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 5: The membership platform for fans and creators who had a 507 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 5: big event. I don't think they have a big presence 508 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 5: this year. So I think a lot of startups are 509 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 5: just feeling kind of the change in the economy and 510 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 5: they're they're not really spending the dollars as much as 511 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 5: last year, but they're certainly our creators here. 512 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 3: Did you just say that a meme account raised twenty how. 513 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 5: Much more than twenty million dollars last year? 514 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 7: Correct? 515 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: Twenty million dollars for memes. This is the stuff that 516 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: we're talking about that you scroll through on Instagram and 517 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: it looks like it's sort of hacked together by someone, 518 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: and these are these are business. This is a big 519 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: business behind this. I've never heard of this company doingthings 520 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: dot com this. 521 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 3: Is media, yeah, oh doing things? Yeah, this is wild. 522 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,199 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. 523 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 5: Yes, there was an Instagram fame. It's Corky at the 524 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 5: event yesterday as well. Who has one million followers on 525 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 5: Instagram name vaccine. So okay, well that celebrity. 526 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 3: Sighting that I get. 527 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 1: I mean, I get the fact that these animals on Instagram. 528 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: I mean, look Instagram. Now hold on about this whole thing, though, 529 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 1: I've got this article about about Instagram pausing their reels 530 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: play bonus. 531 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 3: So have you heard that? 532 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: And you know this is basically if you've saw a 533 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: lot of reels on your Instagram feed, it's because they 534 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 1: were paying creators a bonus for doing these things. And 535 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: that bonus at the beginning was a lot, and then 536 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: of course it became less and less as we went on. 537 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: But now they're going to say they're not going to 538 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: do this anymore over the next thirty days are kind 539 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: of like sunsetting it. 540 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 3: Do you think that will have an impact at all? 541 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean we've seen this kind of pull back 542 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 5: across the board. I mean, these tech companies saw such 543 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 5: rich engagement during pandemic lockdowns. They were trying to rival 544 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 5: the rise of TikTok. So a lot of these platforms, 545 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 5: not just Instagram, rolled out all sorts of cash incentives 546 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 5: for creators. But you know, now these companies are laying 547 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 5: off workers and they're not as flush with cast they're 548 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 5: not able to make those investments. So, you know, I 549 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 5: think these programs were always a nice bonus for creators 550 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 5: and it was nice to be able to get that cash, 551 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 5: but creators know that they can't rely on those programs 552 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 5: because they come and go. I think what's been most 553 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 5: reliable is partnerships with brands as well as YouTube has 554 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 5: you know, long been kind of the leader in terms 555 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 5: of directly making money from a platform through their ad 556 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 5: revenue sharing. So I do think it's it's obviously going 557 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 5: to have a hit on creators' earnings, but I think 558 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 5: the creators who are really savvy know that they have 559 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 5: to just take adage of the cash when it's there. 560 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 1: And at the same time, YouTube just unleashed shorts revenue, 561 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: so you creators for the first time are making money 562 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: based on ads on their shorts. So that's a good 563 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: thing there. 564 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, and YouTube actually used to have a fund for 565 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 5: sports and they moved to the ad revenue sharing model, 566 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 5: so we make the Instagram go that route as well. 567 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: All right, Kaya Yurif. How can folks find you? 568 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 5: You can find me on Twitter at k Urif and 569 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 5: you can also subscribe to my newsletter at the Information 570 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 5: about the Creator Economy. 571 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 3: All right, you're gonna get some barbecue while you're down there. 572 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 5: Oh absolutely. 573 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: I wonder if they're doing like vegan barbecue. I mean, 574 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 1: you get to you know, you gotta please everyone. 575 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 5: Right, totally. I'm further. 576 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: But you're not doing that one. That's I just be curious. 577 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 1: I'm not that I'm vegan, but I just be curious, 578 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: you know. 579 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, barbecue for me, all. 580 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: Right, get some good stuff, all right, Thanks so much 581 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: for joining me here on the show. All right, coming 582 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: up Southwest, south by Southwest just one of my favorite 583 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: Austin in general, just one of my favorite cities. 584 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 3: I don't even know why I said the vegan thing. 585 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: I probably just upset a lot of people because when 586 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: you're going to Austin barbecue, you're not really thinking about 587 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: getting vegan barbecue. But I'm just saying I'm curious. I 588 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 1: you know, there's so many new things happening. I mean, 589 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: look at the like the milks that you can get 590 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: in your coffee. Right you go there and there's like 591 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: a list of like one hundred different milks you can 592 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 1: get now, made from everything from oats to almonds and bananas. 593 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: So anyway, I was just curious. Don't don't send me 594 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: the hate mail, all right. Phone lines are open at 595 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: triple eight Rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight 596 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 1: seven four to two four to one zero one. 597 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 3: My name is rich Dmiro. 598 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 1: You are listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to 599 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: rich on Tech. My name is rich Dmiro, tech reporter 600 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: at KTLA Channel five in Los Angeles. 601 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 3: Every week in the show, I talk. 602 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: About some of the things that I've posted to my 603 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: social media and this. 604 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 3: Week, let's see did I do a lot? 605 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, I did so I posted, Uh, let's see 606 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: I've got at rich on Tech is where you can 607 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: find me on Instagram. Posted some pictures from my trip 608 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: to Vegas I talked about earlier. Oh you gotta see this, 609 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: I posted. I'm We're gonna talk a little bit later 610 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: about this car, but the Lucid Air EV. So this 611 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: Lucid car you've probably started just started seeing them on 612 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: the streets if you live anywhere in California. Maybe not elsewhere, 613 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,959 Speaker 1: but it is an incredible EV that's very high end. 614 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: So this one I drove was like over one hundred 615 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: thousand dollars, So we're talking luxury EV. This is not 616 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: for everyone, believe me, but it'd be nice, that's for sure. 617 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 3: So I've got a video. 618 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: They took us in this car and we went zero 619 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: to sixty in about three zero point four seconds. And 620 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. I was not prepared for that at all, 621 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: like really not prepared, and so this captures the reality 622 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: of my reaction, which I've never seen me react like 623 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: this to anything, so you can check that out. I 624 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: also every time it rains in Los Angeles, I post 625 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: the same exact video of me in this get up. 626 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 3: It's a pod. 627 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: It's called the walking Pod, and it looks like a 628 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: giant wearable hamper. And we recorded this video three years 629 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: ago at this point, maybe four years ago at this point, 630 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: and it went viral and every time I post it, 631 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: it still goes again, every single time. So I posted 632 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: a new kind of clip of just me walking down 633 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: the street in this thing, so you can see how 634 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: silly I look. And then of course I posted some 635 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: pictures from the week in review. Let me tell you 636 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: about Facebook. By the way, if you're trying to call in, 637 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: I believe it looks like we had a little bit 638 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: of an issue with that in case you couldn't tell. 639 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: But if you're trying to call in, I think it 640 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: all seems to be resolved at this point. Kim is 641 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: standing by waiting for your call at triple eight rich 642 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: one oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four to two, 643 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: four to one zero one. I'd blame it on the 644 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: time change, but that hasn't happened yet, so we'll see 645 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: what happens next week. I know I'm always a little 646 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: off with that time change, so maybe the lines we're 647 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: just sleepy today. Facebook making a major change. They put 648 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: out this blog post this week saying, hey, contrary to 649 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: popular reports, we're not dying. 650 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 3: We're not dead. 651 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: In fact, we've got two billion people using our service 652 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: every single day. People are using Facebook for more than 653 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: just connecting with friends and family, but also to discover 654 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: and engage what's important to them, which is true. I'd 655 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: probably agree with that. I think that I've seen even 656 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: on my Facebook feed that they are using a lot 657 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,959 Speaker 1: more AI to kind of figure out what goes in 658 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: that feed. You don't realize that these tech companies are 659 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: scanning everything you're uploading. So even you know, back in 660 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: the day of Instagram, you would put hashtags on things, 661 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: those are almost not even necessary because Facebook and Instagram 662 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: know more about what you're in TikTok and Twitter. They 663 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: know more about what you're posting about than we do. 664 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: They're scanning your images, they're scanning your videos, They're slicing 665 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: and dicing to figure out exactly what content is in 666 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: there and then using that information to serve this up 667 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: to other people. They're not doing it to be nice 668 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: to you. They're doing it for the benefit of their platform, 669 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: because the more people that interact with things that people post, 670 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: the better. And if you post something really interesting it 671 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,959 Speaker 1: just happens to be a video of a waterfall and 672 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: you don't say anything about it, they know, okay, we're 673 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: going to show this to people that like pictures of 674 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,479 Speaker 1: waterfalls in Hawaii and you didn't even have to say anything. 675 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: So Facebook is kind of doing it about face. I 676 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: don't know if you remember this a couple of years ago, 677 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: so back I had to look this up. It was 678 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: like in two thousand. It was a while ago. I 679 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: can't remember. It's twenty fourteen maybe that they said, you 680 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: know what, We're gonna split off Facebook Messenger from the 681 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: main Facebook app. And people went nuts, myself included, because 682 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: I said, why why do we need a separate app 683 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: for Facebook Messenger. It's so much easier to have it 684 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: all built into one thing, And they did it. People 685 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: downloaded Facebook Messenger. Facebook Messengers become very popular, but now 686 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: Facebook is saying, you know what, We're going to rethink 687 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: that little decision. We're now going to build messaging back 688 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: into the main Facebook app. Wait what, why are they 689 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: doing this? Well, they're doing this because of a little 690 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: app called TikTok. And the reason they're doing this is 691 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: because TikTok's really good at showing you stuff, videos that 692 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: you want to see, or maybe you didn't want to see, 693 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: or you just didn't even know existed. But the problem is, 694 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: TikTok is not a very good social network. You may 695 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: send those videos to your friends, but it's not in 696 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: the same way that you can post it to your 697 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: Facebook or to share it on Instagram. And so now 698 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: Facebook is thinking, okay, this might be a pretty killer 699 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: solution we have where people can watch stuff on our 700 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: platform and also share it to their friends on our platform. 701 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: And that is why they are now testing building messaging 702 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: back into Instagram. So are back into Facebook. So don't 703 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: be surprised if you log into Facebook and you get 704 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: this little window that says, hey, did you know you 705 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: can message in Facebook again? You're gonna say, wait, I'm confused. 706 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: I thought I need a Facebook Messenger to do that. 707 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: I thought they took it out of Facebook. Now they're 708 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: putting it back in, So it's been long enough. I 709 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: think it was twenty fourteen when they did that, so 710 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: it's been a while. All right, let's take our first call. 711 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: John is in mission viah John, you're on with. 712 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 8: Rich Okay, thank you. I've got to go from Windows 713 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 8: eight point one because it's at its EOL, so I'm 714 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 8: going to have to go to either Windows ten or 715 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 8: Windows eleven. I do very basic stuff on my computer, 716 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 8: mostly financial stuff, and I was wondering which is going 717 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 8: to be the easier operating system to use, either ten 718 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 8: or eleven? Which one do you think is going to 719 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 8: be better for me to use long term? 720 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 3: What do you do on your computer? 721 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 8: Mainly just email and then online access to my different accounts, 722 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 8: and I'd like to do some scanning. 723 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,240 Speaker 3: Okay, oh scanning? Interesting? Okay? 724 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: What about so you're most of what you're doing is 725 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: happening inside a web browser, like email and all that. 726 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,280 Speaker 3: Kind of stuff and connecting tier counts. 727 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 8: So I mean I've been running the Windows Live email program. 728 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: Okay, So you're using that, okay, which is a nice 729 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 1: email program. I think that's fine. It'll change a little 730 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: bit when you get to new version of Windows. But 731 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: here's what I'd recommend, So I'd say just skip over 732 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,760 Speaker 1: to Windows eleven. Windows eleven is pretty much a version 733 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,720 Speaker 1: of Windows ten. I think the biggest leap is going 734 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: to this new software in general from Windows eight. I mean, 735 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: Windows ten is a whole different kind of look and feel. 736 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: So why go to Windows ten when it's going to 737 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: be supported for a couple more years. You mentioned EOL 738 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: that means end of life, so Windows eight means it's 739 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: it's not getting active software updates. Windows ten will get 740 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: software updates until October fourteenth, twenty twenty five. Windows eleven 741 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: is pretty much the operating system, which is the one 742 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 1: I'd go with. They just came out the big ol' 743 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 1: update for it, so I say take the plunge, do 744 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: the big update to Windows eleven. Learn the system, and 745 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna last for a long time because Windows eleven 746 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 1: is very very new. So I would just skip to 747 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: the eleven and not worry about the ten portion, because 748 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: why learn something twice? Just learn it once? All right, 749 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: John and Mission Viejo, thanks so much for calling today. 750 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: Do appreciate it. Phone lines are open at Triple eight 751 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: rich one on one eight eight eight seven four to 752 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 1: two four one zero one. Coming up in the show, 753 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 1: we're going to talk to John Faulkner of Clean Fleet Report. 754 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk EV's and his favorite evs right now, 755 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: Plus in studio guest Jefferson. 756 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 3: Graham is going to join me formerly of USA Today. 757 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: He's going to talk about taking better pictures with your 758 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: iPhone and all kinds of other stuff you're. 759 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 3: Listening to rich on Tech. More of the show coming 760 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 3: up after this. 761 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. My name is rich DeMuro, 762 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: hanging out here talking technology with you at Triple eight 763 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,879 Speaker 1: rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four 764 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: two four. 765 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 3: To one zero one. 766 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: I'll tell you about the new ring video doorbell in 767 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,800 Speaker 1: just a little bit, but first let's get to Richard 768 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: in Georgia. 769 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 3: Richard, I like your name. 770 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 9: You're on with rich Hey, Rich great job. By the way, 771 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 9: I've been listening to you since you took over for Leo. 772 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 3: No thank you. Appreciate that. 773 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 9: I've got a home studio and I'm looking to move 774 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 9: my control room from the same room into another room 775 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,360 Speaker 9: for better sound isolation. That way I can hear the 776 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,320 Speaker 9: audio coming through the gear and not you know, physically 777 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 9: in person. But obviously I don't want to cut a 778 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 9: hole in the wall between the two bedrooms. That's not 779 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 9: very good for reseal all that, you know, resell of 780 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 9: the house. 781 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: But well, how long are you gonna stay here? I 782 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,760 Speaker 1: mean maybe maybe this is a long term plan, right. 783 00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 9: Well, at least a few years. But I was wondering 784 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 9: if if there's like a digital solution for that. Maybe 785 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 9: I was thinking maybe a march or on one side, 786 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 9: monitor on the other in a camera. 787 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one of them. That's that's that's a start. 788 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 1: It's funny you say this because I went to my 789 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,720 Speaker 1: friend's house in the Las Vegas area, he's a musician, 790 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 1: and he showed me he had done exactly what you're 791 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: talking about, but he cut the hole in the wall. 792 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 1: So he had a great setup. I mean it was 793 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 1: a whole studio. He had all the little streaming cameras 794 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 1: set up. Everything was was really really like slick. So 795 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 1: I get it. The window is probably the best way 796 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: to go. But if you don't want to do that, 797 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: and you know the best the next best thing is 798 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: to probably. 799 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 3: Do some webcams. 800 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,240 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, it's funny because when I when I first 801 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: got into the not radio business, but TV back in 802 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: the day when I was a journalism student. I will 803 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,479 Speaker 1: never forget when they told us that the control room 804 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 1: is not overlooking the studio. It was like, you know 805 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 1: where I work at Katla, it's a whole different area. 806 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not in the same building. Well it 807 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 1: used to not be, now it iss But the reality 808 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 1: is that, yeah, you can do all kinds of stuff 809 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: from anywhere now because of how good technology's gotten. So 810 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: I just happened to be at the Spotify. I took 811 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 1: a big, a big tour of the Spotify studios here 812 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. They have an incredible facility and Richard, 813 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: you would be you would love to see. 814 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 3: These things, have to check that out. 815 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 7: Awesome. 816 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: But they showed me the studio where they do all 817 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: the recordings for sort of like you know where artists 818 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 1: come in. So I'm looking at some of my pictures here. 819 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 1: They just have a whole bunch of instruments, just tons 820 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: of instruments that people can choose from. So they come 821 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 1: in there and they just pick something and they want 822 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 1: them to be They actually said they want them to 823 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,760 Speaker 1: be different than what they typically use because that feeds 824 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 1: the curiosity or the sorry, the creativity, right. 825 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 9: Absolutely yeah, they get your brain going, it makes you 826 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 9: think out of the box. Yeah, absolutely right. 827 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: And now I'm looking, I'm looking at their studio and 828 00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 1: their control room does have windows overlooking the studio. Uh, 829 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 1: they've got probably a giant panel of one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, Oh, 830 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: probably about forty five what do they call mixer pots 831 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,760 Speaker 1: or something whatever boards? 832 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,800 Speaker 9: Yeah, the headphone mixers. 833 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of them there, so I don't 834 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,839 Speaker 1: know how extended. But but here's my point about all 835 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: this is because here's what I learned. The term that 836 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: I learned when I was there is called PTZ. 837 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 3: Have you heard of that term? 838 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 9: No? 839 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: Okay, So that is a pan tilt and zoom. So 840 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,840 Speaker 1: a PTZ camera. As soon as you look this thing up, 841 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,479 Speaker 1: you will recognize it. This is pretty much what these 842 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: studios are using, not only to live stream, but also 843 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,760 Speaker 1: you can use it to sort of monitor what's happening 844 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,879 Speaker 1: in there. So I think you can do dual use 845 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 1: with this. But I would recommend taking a look at 846 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,839 Speaker 1: a couple of those and installing them very good. 847 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 9: I didn't think about. Yeah, a control in the pan 848 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 9: and zoom in in the tilt. That's great, that's a 849 00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 9: great idea. 850 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you could go you can go with a 851 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: standard camera, but you know, without that move and it's 852 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 1: just one big wide angle. But you know, why not, 853 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 1: if you're gonna be building this thing out, why not 854 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 1: spend a little bit more and get something that's more 855 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 1: flexible that will enable you to either connect with the 856 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,399 Speaker 1: people that are in this studio a little bit more 857 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 1: monitor them. If you want a really cheap solution, have 858 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:22,840 Speaker 1: you heard of the company whys Yes, So Whise makes 859 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 1: a pan and tilt camera that's very inexpensive. I mean, 860 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: let's let's see how much theirs is. It is there 861 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 1: on version three of it. It is thirty three dollars 862 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,759 Speaker 1: and ninety nine cents. So if you want something very inexpensive, 863 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,840 Speaker 1: that's one way to go. But if you want to 864 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 1: get one of the more expensive PTZ cameras, you know, 865 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 1: I'm seeing them on I was just looking them up quickly, 866 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,919 Speaker 1: and there's you know, Best Buys got some for about 867 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: four hundred bucks. 868 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:49,359 Speaker 3: But they go up. 869 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: They can get up pretty expensive, so they can go 870 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: up to a couple thousand. But that's that's probably what 871 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 1: I recommend and maybe get like a you know, while 872 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,719 Speaker 1: you're while you're at it, get you know, like a 873 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: zoom set up, Like maybe put one of these monitors 874 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 1: in the corner that people can zoom in so that 875 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 1: way you can just connect they can see your face, 876 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 1: you know, over the zoom. But there's a lot you 877 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 1: can do here. I mean, all this stuff is off 878 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: the shelf and very much doable, and people are doing 879 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,839 Speaker 1: this every day, So I think that it's just a 880 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,799 Speaker 1: matter of kind of figuring out what you want the capabilities, 881 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 1: and just having fun with it. 882 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 9: Very cool. I appreciate that it's a lot of great 883 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 9: information and I look forward to checking out some more 884 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 9: out in the LA area once I get back out 885 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 9: to California. Awesome and to longin it's been out there. 886 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, ring me up and we'll see if we can 887 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: get back into the Spotify studios, see if they'll let 888 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,399 Speaker 1: me back in once. Once these companies, once they let 889 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 1: you out, they kind of like close the door behind 890 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: you and they're like, Okay, we'll see you never again. No, 891 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:47,400 Speaker 1: I'm just kidding, right, especially since I worked for iHeart, 892 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 1: So we'll see anyway, all right, Richard, thanks so much 893 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:50,879 Speaker 1: for joining me today. 894 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 3: Appreciate it. 895 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 9: Thank you. 896 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:53,800 Speaker 3: All right, have a good one. 897 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 1: All right, let me tell you about the speaking of 898 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,479 Speaker 1: video cameras, let me tell you about the new Ring 899 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:04,240 Speaker 1: Video doorbell, so brand new battery doorbell Plus. It's called 900 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 1: I think Ring has way too many video doorbells at 901 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 1: this point. You go to their website and you're just like, 902 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,320 Speaker 1: which one do I get? Because there are so many. 903 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,440 Speaker 1: There used to be one Ring video doorbell. Now there 904 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,319 Speaker 1: is a lineup of all different types, some plug in, 905 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 1: some are battery, some are new, some have higher resolution. 906 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 1: But the battery doorbell Plus is pretty much their standard 907 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 1: selection video doorbell. It's a little higher end, so it 908 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 1: gives you some new features. The number one feature I 909 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 1: think you're gonna like is that the battery life is 910 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 1: up to three times better than the standard Ring video doorbell. 911 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 1: Now they say the original, So now does that mean 912 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 1: when the original came out like ten years ago? What 913 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 1: do they mean by that? So I'm gonna have to 914 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 1: test this and see just how much battery. I've got 915 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 1: a Ring video doorbell with the battery, and I'm replacing 916 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 1: the battery probably every I'd say, maybe every four months, 917 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,239 Speaker 1: and it doesn't lie as long as i'd like, but 918 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 1: I do have two batteries, so I just swap them 919 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 1: out and that makes life. By the way, a little 920 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,799 Speaker 1: pro tip, just swap them out so much easier. Just 921 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 1: go on the Ring website. If you've got one of 922 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 1: these video doorbells that you're swapping the battery and you're 923 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 1: taking the battery out and you're charging it and you're 924 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 1: putting it back in, just just buy a secondary battery 925 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: and keep that one charging and then you can just 926 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 1: swap them out and that way you're never without your 927 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,360 Speaker 1: your video doorbell. So this is their first doorbell launch 928 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 1: in two years. The biggest difference you're gonna notice with 929 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,440 Speaker 1: the video is that it has a brand new viewing 930 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 1: angle one hundred and fifty degrees by one hundred and 931 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,719 Speaker 1: fifty degrees field of view, so it's a one to 932 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,280 Speaker 1: one aspect ratio, so it's not like sixteen by nine. 933 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,400 Speaker 1: I think the Google one is more like that. But 934 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,920 Speaker 1: this will give you a head to toe view of 935 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 1: your visitors, which is kind of cool. Then also you 936 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 1: can see if you have a package at your front door. 937 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 1: Because the field of view is so wide, up and 938 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 1: down and left and right, you can see the floor, 939 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 1: so that's really handy because that's something that was greatly 940 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:04,800 Speaker 1: missing in the Ring video doorbells from yesteryear. The resolution 941 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,399 Speaker 1: is also better. It's got the highest HD resolution of 942 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 1: any battery doorbell at fifteen thirty six p, so it's 943 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,760 Speaker 1: a decent resolution. It's probably you know, it's pretty reasonable. 944 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,080 Speaker 1: So that's that's very good because sometimes people talk about 945 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,400 Speaker 1: how the resolution of these video doorbells just isn't very good. 946 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 1: So fifteen thirty six will will provide a pretty good 947 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,239 Speaker 1: view of what's happening there. And it does have color 948 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 1: night vision as well. So how much this is one 949 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy nine dollars. It will start shipping on 950 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 1: April fifth. I will tell you this may be enough 951 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 1: for me to update my Ring video doorbell. It's been 952 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 1: been a while since I got one, and so I 953 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,879 Speaker 1: think that this is probably about time to do it. 954 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:50,839 Speaker 1: One hundred and eighty dollars. The only thing I would 955 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,920 Speaker 1: caution you on is paying full price. Ring products like 956 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,320 Speaker 1: Amazon products, because they're owned by Amazon, they do typically 957 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 1: go on sale one, two, maybe three times a year, 958 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 1: so I would wait until one of those things goes 959 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,919 Speaker 1: on sale. One of those special days they have. Usually 960 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 1: it's around a holiday, obviously during Prime Day, but I 961 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,879 Speaker 1: would wait one hundred and eighty bucks. Still decent deal, 962 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 1: but I think you can get it for cheaper. I 963 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,919 Speaker 1: think you could probably get that price down to maybe 964 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,280 Speaker 1: fifty dollars less than that. So something'll look out for 965 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:29,280 Speaker 1: for sure. Google Io happening in person May tenth. 966 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 3: What does that mean? 967 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:35,359 Speaker 1: Google Io is Google's big, big developers conference. I've been 968 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,440 Speaker 1: to this many many times. It's one of my favorites 969 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,399 Speaker 1: of the year because they pretty much show you all 970 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,440 Speaker 1: the cool stuff they've been working on at Google. And 971 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 1: this year should be very exciting because we're going to 972 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 1: see their new AI. I think they're gonna wait to 973 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 1: show us barred in a big way until Google Io 974 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,400 Speaker 1: comes out on May tenth, so I. 975 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 3: Will be there. 976 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 1: This is happening in Mountain View, California, Shoreline Amphitheater. It's 977 00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,360 Speaker 1: a limited live audience, but I was lucky and I 978 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 1: got an invite from Google, so I will definitely be 979 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,760 Speaker 1: taking advantage of that. Love I'd love the Google stuff. 980 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,640 Speaker 1: These Googlers are just so nerdy and fun. They're like 981 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,879 Speaker 1: my people, you know. I just love chatting with them, 982 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 1: I can be like, hey, answer me this question about 983 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 1: how Android auto works. Like you get to talk to 984 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,319 Speaker 1: the actual engineers that program this stuff. And so for 985 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,000 Speaker 1: me that's always a delight because there's only so much 986 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 1: you can get by looking at the stuff they put 987 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:23,880 Speaker 1: online or playing with yourself. 988 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 3: Other things expected. 989 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 1: To be seen at Google Io twenty twenty three Pixel 990 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:33,760 Speaker 1: seven a that is going to be an inexpensive pixel device. 991 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,879 Speaker 1: Also the Pixel tablet, that's exciting because we haven't seen 992 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,840 Speaker 1: a good Android tablet in a while. And maybe even 993 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,160 Speaker 1: the Pixel fold their foldable phone, and maybe a pixel 994 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 1: tracker as well. And of course Android fourteen they'll probably 995 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:47,439 Speaker 1: show off that too. 996 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 3: All right, coming up on. 997 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,319 Speaker 1: The show, we're going to talk about evs. Plus what 998 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:53,959 Speaker 1: else do I have going on here? Oh, we're gonna 999 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,040 Speaker 1: talk about spring break apps. I've been testing a bunch 1000 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 1: of them. So I told you about flighty earlier. I've 1001 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,439 Speaker 1: got plenty more where that came from. Be a call 1002 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,240 Speaker 1: triple eight rich one on one eight eight eight seven 1003 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,319 Speaker 1: four to two four to one zero one. 1004 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 3: You're listening to rich on Tech. 1005 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:12,680 Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging 1006 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 1: out with you on a well, you know, some of 1007 00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,040 Speaker 1: you are listening live, some of your listening later. So 1008 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,359 Speaker 1: I'm just hanging out with you eight eight eight rich 1009 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,359 Speaker 1: one oh one eight eight eight seven four to two, 1010 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,960 Speaker 1: four to one zero one. I usually do some feedback 1011 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,560 Speaker 1: at the end of the show, but since Bob just 1012 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 1: emailed me and said, great job on your show, but 1013 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 1: one suggestion, since you're broadcasting nationwide to people who may 1014 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:40,239 Speaker 1: or may not know California cities, instead of saying Chatsworth 1015 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,960 Speaker 1: or call from Northridge, you might want to add California. 1016 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 3: Just a suggestion. Thanks for all you do fun stuff. 1017 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,080 Speaker 1: Uh, you know this is so interesting, Bob, because this 1018 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 1: is I struggle with this also on KTLA because I'm 1019 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 1: i mean very LA centric, right, like I am located 1020 00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,600 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. The show broadcast Los Angeles, both KTLA 1021 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:06,480 Speaker 1: and this show. But you're right, my KTLA segment goes nationwide, 1022 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,640 Speaker 1: and so does this show, and so there's always that 1023 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 1: line of making sure people are comfortable understanding what you're 1024 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,680 Speaker 1: talking about, where you're coming from, what you're doing, and 1025 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,640 Speaker 1: so on KTLA it's become you know, sometimes if there's 1026 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:25,760 Speaker 1: a city I'm referencing in a story that people outside 1027 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,759 Speaker 1: Los Angeles may not know. I say we went to 1028 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 1: San Bernardino, California, and people in Los Angeles are watching 1029 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 1: my story saying, wait, why is Rich saying. 1030 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,120 Speaker 3: San Bernardino, California? 1031 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,920 Speaker 1: Like, I know San Bernardino, I live right here, but 1032 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,879 Speaker 1: people that are watching in other cities like Chicago or 1033 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,960 Speaker 1: Honolulu may not know those places. So I agree that 1034 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:48,799 Speaker 1: is definitely something I need to get better at, and 1035 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,640 Speaker 1: I will do that for sure, because I take for 1036 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,440 Speaker 1: granted I think if I say Phoenix, I don't know 1037 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,680 Speaker 1: if I need to say Arizona. But if it's a 1038 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,440 Speaker 1: smaller city somewhere, maybe I'll just do that anyway. All right, 1039 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 1: So I was only about Vegas earlier, and I kind 1040 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,919 Speaker 1: of want to continue that conversation because there was more 1041 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,640 Speaker 1: I had, more I had thoughts on. So I was 1042 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,840 Speaker 1: talking about how my wife and I went to Vegas 1043 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 1: over the weekend. We didn't really do much except just 1044 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,279 Speaker 1: kind of enjoy you know, eating out, dinner and just 1045 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:21,160 Speaker 1: kind of shopping whatever. Not a huge gambler, but you know, 1046 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 1: I do like playing some of these machines the kind 1047 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 1: of fun. Sometimes I'm not going to spend a lot 1048 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,000 Speaker 1: of money on them because to me, it's you know, 1049 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,880 Speaker 1: I'd rather buy something with my money, but it's still fun. 1050 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:35,439 Speaker 1: But one thing I noticed is that the digitizing of 1051 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:40,400 Speaker 1: Vegas is really happening in a very fast way. And 1052 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,759 Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier how when I first started going to Vegas, 1053 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 1: they actually had people that would give out change. There'd 1054 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,480 Speaker 1: be people walking around these little carts that would change 1055 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,440 Speaker 1: your money. You would take a twenty dollars bill and 1056 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,799 Speaker 1: you'd get nickels in a role. 1057 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 3: I mean this is going back many many. 1058 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,920 Speaker 1: Years, but used to actually put coins in a machine 1059 00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:02,239 Speaker 1: in Las Vegas, which nowadays is just so not the 1060 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,120 Speaker 1: thing you put money in. And we used to sit 1061 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,239 Speaker 1: there and play a nickel slot for an hour on 1062 00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,920 Speaker 1: five ten bucks. And now, of course people feed twenties 1063 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:16,719 Speaker 1: and hundreds into these machines. But the slot machines are 1064 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,520 Speaker 1: really getting high tech. I mean bigger and bigger and bigger. 1065 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,960 Speaker 1: Every time I go. I think at the Venetian wherever 1066 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,400 Speaker 1: I was, they're gonna have to open up the ceiling 1067 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,399 Speaker 1: because some of these machines are getting so large three 1068 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,600 Speaker 1: D screens, the sound effects. The other thing I noticed 1069 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,840 Speaker 1: is that all of these table games that used to 1070 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:38,279 Speaker 1: have dealers sitting there are now digital And so we 1071 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,920 Speaker 1: went to the Paris Casino in Las Vegas and they 1072 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,800 Speaker 1: had this entire almost it looked like a nightclub area 1073 00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:49,719 Speaker 1: where it was three dealers on a stage. One was 1074 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,680 Speaker 1: doing craps, one was doing blackjack, one was doing roulette, 1075 00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 1: but they were also sort of dancers and DJs at 1076 00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 1: the same time. So they're literally spinning music, spinning the 1077 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:04,120 Speaker 1: roulette table, and everyone that's playing is playing on a 1078 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,400 Speaker 1: digital screen at a seat in front of them. So 1079 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:11,600 Speaker 1: imagine a little mini auditorium where it's kind of real 1080 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,480 Speaker 1: and kind of digital. 1081 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:14,320 Speaker 3: It was a mix. 1082 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,400 Speaker 1: That was the first time I've ever seen that, and 1083 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,160 Speaker 1: I saw that theme at various other hotels. It wasn't 1084 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,320 Speaker 1: just the Paris. I also saw that happening at Caesar's 1085 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 1: and in general, I've just seen a lot more of 1086 00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 1: these games that were traditionally table games becoming digital. 1087 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:31,080 Speaker 7: Now. 1088 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,120 Speaker 1: As a tech person, I thought when they had USB 1089 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,920 Speaker 1: charging ports on the slot machines, that was cool until 1090 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,200 Speaker 1: I realized the security implications of that, and I'm not 1091 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,760 Speaker 1: a big fan. So now they have switched to wireless charging, 1092 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,480 Speaker 1: so while you're sitting there at a slot machine, you 1093 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,520 Speaker 1: can just put your phone down and it will wirelessly charge. 1094 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:53,279 Speaker 1: The other thing that I'm seeing is the idea of 1095 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,279 Speaker 1: back in the day, you were not allowed to take 1096 00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,520 Speaker 1: pictures in a casino, or it was frowned upon. Like 1097 00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,640 Speaker 1: I specifically remember when we first started having cell phones 1098 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,040 Speaker 1: and casinos, they were just like no, no, no, can't take pictures. 1099 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,759 Speaker 1: And now, of course there's selfie stations, which is a 1100 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:09,879 Speaker 1: whole other thing. So it's just the changes that are 1101 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,960 Speaker 1: happening are happening rapidly, and if you're not watching them, 1102 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,439 Speaker 1: you may not realize just how much of these things 1103 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:17,040 Speaker 1: are changing. 1104 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:17,600 Speaker 3: Now. 1105 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,680 Speaker 1: As a tech person, I find it very fascinating to 1106 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:24,440 Speaker 1: just watch this digital transformation of almost every industry and 1107 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:28,040 Speaker 1: in Vegas and almost everywhere. It's like we are doing 1108 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 1: more and more on our own. It's much more self 1109 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,760 Speaker 1: service no matter what you're doing these days, and it's 1110 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:38,000 Speaker 1: almost like tech creep right where it's just it's creeping 1111 00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,160 Speaker 1: up on us and we don't really realize that it's 1112 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,160 Speaker 1: all just changing very quickly. So I mentioned these spring 1113 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,279 Speaker 1: Break travel apps. I tested a bunch. I put a 1114 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,080 Speaker 1: piece on KTLA last week. I tested a whole bunch 1115 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 1: of apps and here's the ones that I would recommend. 1116 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,879 Speaker 1: All right, So first off, if you need some help 1117 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,040 Speaker 1: with packing, the app is called pack point, So you 1118 00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,279 Speaker 1: put in some details about your trip, where you're going, 1119 00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,880 Speaker 1: It looks at the weather and it just a list 1120 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,040 Speaker 1: based on the activities and whether where you're going. And 1121 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,799 Speaker 1: so that's called packpoint, and it's just a nice thing 1122 00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,040 Speaker 1: if you're always forgetting something when you pack. Tripsy so 1123 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:11,800 Speaker 1: a lot of people like this app called trip it, 1124 00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,680 Speaker 1: which puts an itinerate together for your travel. Tripsy is 1125 00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,520 Speaker 1: a little bit more consumer oriented, and what I love 1126 00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,399 Speaker 1: about it is once you put everything in there, then 1127 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,920 Speaker 1: you can share it with friends and families. You can 1128 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,120 Speaker 1: share your whole itinerary. Now, when it comes to hotels, 1129 00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,279 Speaker 1: you got to check out Google Hotels to see if 1130 00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:32,200 Speaker 1: there's any cheap dates for where you're going. They will 1131 00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,160 Speaker 1: mark things as deals because Google has so much data. 1132 00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,360 Speaker 1: So definitely go to Google Hotels if you have not 1133 00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,400 Speaker 1: done that. You gotta be careful though, because sometimes they 1134 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,400 Speaker 1: will lead you to some sort of random hotel sites 1135 00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,080 Speaker 1: that you don't want to book on, so just be careful. 1136 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,160 Speaker 1: And I also mentioned Flighty that is a beautiful flight 1137 00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:48,839 Speaker 1: tracking app. 1138 00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:49,600 Speaker 3: On iOS. 1139 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,600 Speaker 1: But if you're on Android, check out an app called 1140 00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,400 Speaker 1: flight Aware. I love flight Aware because it gives you 1141 00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,160 Speaker 1: really good flight alerts, especially if you have someone that's 1142 00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,600 Speaker 1: coming into town. Flight Aware will help you know when 1143 00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,680 Speaker 1: they take off, when they land, baggage, all that good stuff. 1144 00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,000 Speaker 1: I've got this all linked up on my website at 1145 00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:10,120 Speaker 1: Richontech dot TV. Coming up, we're gonna talk evs. You're 1146 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:16,560 Speaker 1: listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. 1147 00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:20,600 Speaker 1: Rich DeMuro here talkin technology at triple eight Rich one 1148 00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,799 Speaker 1: oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four to two, 1149 00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:28,040 Speaker 1: four to one zero one. So this week had a 1150 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:33,200 Speaker 1: little fun with a EV called the Lucid. Lucid is 1151 00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:39,640 Speaker 1: a new car company that is building luxury evs, and 1152 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:43,759 Speaker 1: the one that I testdrove is the Lucid Air. And 1153 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,960 Speaker 1: this isn't a car that's very expensive. Let me let 1154 00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,359 Speaker 1: me get the specs up here. We did the Touring edition. 1155 00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:54,240 Speaker 1: So this one hundred and seven thousand dollars, dual motor, 1156 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:58,439 Speaker 1: six hundred and twenty horsepower, three point four seconds zero 1157 00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,600 Speaker 1: to sixty and by the way, the top of the 1158 00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:04,000 Speaker 1: line goes zero to sixty in two point six seconds 1159 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,120 Speaker 1: with over a thousand horsepower. I am not a car guy, 1160 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:11,440 Speaker 1: but a thousand horsepower seems pretty pretty intense. Even this 1161 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:16,759 Speaker 1: six hundred and twenty was pretty intense. Battery is the 1162 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:18,799 Speaker 1: thing about this company, and I think they're trying to 1163 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:23,880 Speaker 1: take that Apple model is efficiency. So the battery compared 1164 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,920 Speaker 1: to the software, they get about four hundred and twenty 1165 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,759 Speaker 1: five miles to the charge and that's the big lead here. 1166 00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:30,719 Speaker 2: All right. 1167 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,920 Speaker 1: So while I was up in Ventura, I talked to 1168 00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,960 Speaker 1: John Faulkner. He's a senior editor at clean Fleet Report. 1169 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:41,200 Speaker 1: They talk all about EV's. Enjoy our conversation, Rich DeMuro 1170 00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:46,600 Speaker 1: here in Ventura, California, actually on a Lucid EV drive. 1171 00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,839 Speaker 1: So I'm testing out a new car called the Lucid Air. 1172 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:54,360 Speaker 3: This is a very high end EV. Expensive but it's. 1173 00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,000 Speaker 1: Got a long range and it's really a luxury vehicle. 1174 00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,719 Speaker 1: Joining me on the trip is John Faulkner. He is 1175 00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:03,680 Speaker 1: the senior writer at cleanfleet Report dot com. 1176 00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,920 Speaker 3: He tests a lot of evs. John, thanks so much 1177 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:07,440 Speaker 3: for joining me. 1178 00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,400 Speaker 1: Hey, Rich, fantastic all right, So what are your impressions 1179 00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:14,040 Speaker 1: of this Lucid First off, the first. 1180 00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,520 Speaker 10: Thing is that it's one of four models that they have, 1181 00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,959 Speaker 10: and they began with their first two models that were 1182 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,160 Speaker 10: over one hundred thousand dollars and this one is at 1183 00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,160 Speaker 10: ninety two thousand dollars. Yes, it has a smaller battery, 1184 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,360 Speaker 10: but you're still going to be getting several hundred miles 1185 00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:34,160 Speaker 10: in range. And we just drove it from Malibu through 1186 00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:38,480 Speaker 10: the mountains down here to Ventura and it handled extremely 1187 00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:43,440 Speaker 10: well on the on the twisties and using regenitive braking. 1188 00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,360 Speaker 10: I didn't touch the brakes on the whole time I 1189 00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:47,240 Speaker 10: went through the mountains. 1190 00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,400 Speaker 1: Oh wow, so you were just letting it kind of 1191 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:51,880 Speaker 1: it kind of slows down. That's a new experience for 1192 00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:53,720 Speaker 1: a lot of folks if you haven't driven an EV. 1193 00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,360 Speaker 1: What's happening in that In that scenario. 1194 00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,800 Speaker 10: Whenever you lift off the accelerator, and with an EV 1195 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:05,960 Speaker 10: you don't call it the gas pedal, it slows the motors. 1196 00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,280 Speaker 10: And when the motors are slowing or it comes to 1197 00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:13,160 Speaker 10: a stop, you are regenerating kinetic energy heat from the 1198 00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:16,760 Speaker 10: motor back into the battery. You can actually watch on 1199 00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:20,600 Speaker 10: the battery gauge. You can watch the you can watch 1200 00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,160 Speaker 10: the amount of charge rise. 1201 00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:25,000 Speaker 3: So you've been reviewing evs for a long time. 1202 00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,760 Speaker 1: Is there increased interest or is it at interest at 1203 00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:30,320 Speaker 1: all time highs at this point? 1204 00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:34,240 Speaker 10: Well, it certainly is. And I live in California, and 1205 00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:40,440 Speaker 10: California is the center for electric vehicles in the United States. 1206 00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,840 Speaker 10: And we have in this state the most robust built 1207 00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:49,400 Speaker 10: out charging network and then people are doing solar panels, 1208 00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:53,560 Speaker 10: people are putting level two chargers in their house, and 1209 00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:59,960 Speaker 10: so this state has really adopted electric vehicle propulsion. 1210 00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,000 Speaker 1: What if I live in another state, what what's the 1211 00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:04,120 Speaker 1: state of affairs there? 1212 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:08,680 Speaker 10: Several states are getting into building out their infrastructure also, 1213 00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:15,080 Speaker 10: and the the current Inflation Reduction Act also called ira A, 1214 00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:20,920 Speaker 10: billions are going into building out the the electric charging 1215 00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:24,600 Speaker 10: infrastructure around the United States. But as far as individual 1216 00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,440 Speaker 10: states go, it really comes down to and I hate 1217 00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:32,040 Speaker 10: to say it, but it's politics, and some states don't 1218 00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:33,800 Speaker 10: want to believe in electric. 1219 00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:35,440 Speaker 1: Vehicles. 1220 00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,280 Speaker 10: There are actually a couple of states that say that 1221 00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:41,600 Speaker 10: they want to ban electric vehicles from being sold there. 1222 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:46,960 Speaker 10: And so this is this is not a nationwide grasping 1223 00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:54,280 Speaker 10: of the technology. It certainly is along the coasts Oregon, Washington, California, Arizona, 1224 00:59:55,720 --> 01:00:00,480 Speaker 10: Texas has a has a large ev population U as 1225 01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:01,960 Speaker 10: as does the Northeast. 1226 01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,480 Speaker 1: So what are some of the benefits to evs versus 1227 01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:06,840 Speaker 1: the challenge of owning an EV. 1228 01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:09,920 Speaker 10: Well, the benefit is that every single time that you 1229 01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,120 Speaker 10: drive down the street, you drive by a gasoline station 1230 01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,600 Speaker 10: that has assigned five twenty five for gasoline, you can 1231 01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:20,520 Speaker 10: just say oh and off you go, so you don't stop. 1232 01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:24,600 Speaker 10: That's that's what's nice about that. The also owning an 1233 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:29,160 Speaker 10: EV versus a conventional internal combustion engine car is that 1234 01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:33,200 Speaker 10: you don't have tune ups. You you don't have there's 1235 01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:38,240 Speaker 10: no fluids changed, there's no belts there the brakes I 1236 01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:41,440 Speaker 10: mentioned regenerative braking. Actually what that is is that's the 1237 01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,880 Speaker 10: motor slowing the vehicle. That means that the brakes, the 1238 01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:48,240 Speaker 10: brake pads are not being used as much. There are 1239 01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:51,280 Speaker 10: stories of people in some EV's going over one hundred 1240 01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:54,280 Speaker 10: thousand miles before they change their brake pads. So the 1241 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:58,120 Speaker 10: cost of maintenance is a serious consideration when it comes 1242 01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:02,840 Speaker 10: down to owning an electric fevehicle. Since the average that 1243 01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:06,320 Speaker 10: a person drives every day is forty five miles round trip. 1244 01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,240 Speaker 10: If you have a vehicle that gets one hundred and 1245 01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,720 Speaker 10: fifty to three hundred miles on a charge. You can 1246 01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,840 Speaker 10: figure out how you only have to do that. Vehicle 1247 01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,800 Speaker 10: may charge it once once a week. But if you're 1248 01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:21,120 Speaker 10: plugging it in every night, just like you would your 1249 01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:24,360 Speaker 10: mobile phone every night, plug in your car at home, 1250 01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:28,200 Speaker 10: you top off the battery and we're back to the 1251 01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,160 Speaker 10: beginning of what we said. You drive by the gas 1252 01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,440 Speaker 10: stations and you get that kind of a nice feeling. 1253 01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:35,800 Speaker 1: Now, whenever I do a story about EVS and post 1254 01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,640 Speaker 1: it to my social media, I get the folks saying. 1255 01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:40,040 Speaker 3: Well, what about these batteries. 1256 01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,560 Speaker 1: They're dirty, they can't be recycled, you can't do anything 1257 01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:43,880 Speaker 1: with them. 1258 01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,160 Speaker 3: What can you speak to that at all? The battery 1259 01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:49,880 Speaker 3: does it have a life after the car batteries? 1260 01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:53,160 Speaker 10: Absolutely do. They are being recycled in a way that 1261 01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:55,920 Speaker 10: people probably didn't think several years ago they could be. 1262 01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,720 Speaker 10: There are companies that are completely dedicated to recycling the batteries. 1263 01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,600 Speaker 10: But it's it's not just recycling the components, which you've 1264 01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:06,120 Speaker 10: heard the term rare earth metals. What they're doing is 1265 01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:09,960 Speaker 10: they're taking these and there and they're making battery walls 1266 01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:13,160 Speaker 10: out of them, so you get solar panels on your roof. Well, 1267 01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:17,120 Speaker 10: that's good, But overnight, when the sun's not hitting your panels, 1268 01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:20,040 Speaker 10: you're now on the grid. Well, you have a battery 1269 01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:21,960 Speaker 10: set up in your house, and now you can run 1270 01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,560 Speaker 10: your battery. You can run off of the batteries from 1271 01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,760 Speaker 10: the electric that you've created from the solar panels during 1272 01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:31,680 Speaker 10: the day, so they're being repopulated for that. They're also 1273 01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:39,000 Speaker 10: there's the battery technology is increasing every single day. The 1274 01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:42,600 Speaker 10: batteries we're using now in twenty twenty three, this will 1275 01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:45,160 Speaker 10: not be the technology we're using five to ten years 1276 01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:45,560 Speaker 10: from now. 1277 01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:50,200 Speaker 1: What are some of your favorite or most exciting evs 1278 01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:50,720 Speaker 1: out there? 1279 01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,120 Speaker 3: Besides the Lucid of course, I. 1280 01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:58,800 Speaker 10: Really like the Kia EV six or the performance version 1281 01:02:58,800 --> 01:02:59,000 Speaker 10: of the. 1282 01:02:58,920 --> 01:02:59,800 Speaker 3: EV six GT. 1283 01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:06,160 Speaker 10: I like the Genesis GV sixty. I like the Hyundai 1284 01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:10,760 Speaker 10: Ionic five. The common thread running through all those is 1285 01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:14,560 Speaker 10: they're all they're all produced by the Hyundai Group, and 1286 01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:19,320 Speaker 10: somehow Hundai has electric compulsion figured out. I like the 1287 01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:22,520 Speaker 10: Machi from Ford. It's a very nice vehicle. I think 1288 01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:27,160 Speaker 10: they're probably the best value on the market. Is the Bolt, 1289 01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:29,160 Speaker 10: whether you get the bolt or you get the one 1290 01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:34,560 Speaker 10: called the EUV, which stands for Electric Utility Vehicle wonderful vehicle, 1291 01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:38,120 Speaker 10: almost three hundred miles in range. The vehicle costs, you know, 1292 01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:42,480 Speaker 10: around thirty thousand dollars, and it qualifies for all of 1293 01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:45,680 Speaker 10: the all of the tax rebates for the Feds and 1294 01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:50,000 Speaker 10: state rebates also. So those are some of them, but 1295 01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:54,680 Speaker 10: there are. Every single day, it seems a manufacturer is 1296 01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:58,040 Speaker 10: announcing they're coming out with electric vehicle. Now some of 1297 01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:01,360 Speaker 10: them are quite exotic, and some of them are going 1298 01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,800 Speaker 10: to be hopefully on the on the lower end, and 1299 01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,440 Speaker 10: so that that's going to be the shakeout is an 1300 01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:13,120 Speaker 10: EV for everybody. They're not for everybody, and we need 1301 01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:16,440 Speaker 10: to we need to stress that that's either because of 1302 01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:23,360 Speaker 10: their driving lifestyle, what they do, their vocation. And another 1303 01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:26,800 Speaker 10: thing is going to be the charging situation, and that 1304 01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:30,240 Speaker 10: is that here in California, where it's temperate, you plug 1305 01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,920 Speaker 10: in your vehicle and you're going to get a maximum charge. 1306 01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:36,920 Speaker 10: When you go into a climate that is cold, and 1307 01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:40,080 Speaker 10: I don't mean fifty degrees, I mean maybe you know, 1308 01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:45,120 Speaker 10: thirty or thirty below, that vehicle is going to have 1309 01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:48,040 Speaker 10: a reduction in the amount that the battery can charge 1310 01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:50,480 Speaker 10: and also the range that you can drive the vehicle. 1311 01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:54,080 Speaker 10: So most evs are coming out now with what are 1312 01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:58,640 Speaker 10: called battery conditioners. They raise the battery before you charge it. 1313 01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:02,680 Speaker 10: They raise the battery up to the proper temperature so 1314 01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:06,400 Speaker 10: they can accept a full charge. So the technology is 1315 01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:09,360 Speaker 10: changing every single day and it's exciting. 1316 01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:12,000 Speaker 11: And if. 1317 01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:18,360 Speaker 10: You pay attention to ads almost Super Bowl, you will 1318 01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:22,240 Speaker 10: see that everything advertised there was an electric vehicle, all right. 1319 01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:25,840 Speaker 1: John Faulkner of the Clean Fleet Report, tell folks how 1320 01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:26,320 Speaker 1: to find. 1321 01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:30,160 Speaker 10: You cleanfourport dot com. And what you'll find there is 1322 01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:34,000 Speaker 10: that we cover what we consider what we consider alternative 1323 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:40,080 Speaker 10: fuel vehicles, and so that's anything that's electrified natural gas, 1324 01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:44,440 Speaker 10: hydrogen fuel cell, which is another form of electricity powered 1325 01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:47,280 Speaker 10: vehicles which we did not discuss, and that would also 1326 01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:48,000 Speaker 10: include diesel. 1327 01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:49,360 Speaker 3: All right, thanks for joining me today. 1328 01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:50,400 Speaker 10: It's been my pleasure. 1329 01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:50,920 Speaker 4: All right. 1330 01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:52,680 Speaker 1: If you want to see a little video from my 1331 01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:54,920 Speaker 1: test drive of the Lucid, we did a zero to 1332 01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:58,160 Speaker 1: sixteen about three point four seconds. I was not exactly 1333 01:05:58,200 --> 01:05:59,200 Speaker 1: prepared for it. 1334 01:05:59,200 --> 01:05:59,960 Speaker 3: It's pretty wild. 1335 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,120 Speaker 1: You can find that on my Instagram at rich On Tech. 1336 01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:06,640 Speaker 1: I'm Rich Dumuro more of rich On Tech. After this, 1337 01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:13,280 Speaker 1: welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich DeMuro here plus 1338 01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:17,400 Speaker 1: your calls at eight eight eight rich one oh one 1339 01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:23,200 Speaker 1: eight eight eight seven four to two four one zero one. 1340 01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:26,520 Speaker 1: I finished that Elvis movie last night. I don't know 1341 01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:30,800 Speaker 1: if you've seen this, but it's the one it's I 1342 01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:34,120 Speaker 1: called it, and I I called it the Tom Hanks 1343 01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:37,800 Speaker 1: Elvis movie, and I realized that I was wrong because 1344 01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,080 Speaker 1: this was before I saw it. It's really the Austin 1345 01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:43,880 Speaker 1: Butler Elvis movie. But I wasn't familiar with this actor 1346 01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,840 Speaker 1: before I watched it, and wow, he did a great job. 1347 01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:49,960 Speaker 1: I know I'm very late on this movie because I 1348 01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:53,800 Speaker 1: see things sometimes with movies. It takes me a long time, 1349 01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:56,160 Speaker 1: and it took me two weeks to finish this movie, 1350 01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:58,840 Speaker 1: but it was. It was really good, and I tweeted 1351 01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:02,280 Speaker 1: yesterday saying, I hope it's accurate because almost all of 1352 01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:05,320 Speaker 1: my knowledge of Elvis now is from this movie, and 1353 01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:08,520 Speaker 1: so I hope that it was at least somewhat accurate 1354 01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:12,240 Speaker 1: because that's all I know about Elvis. And wow, I 1355 01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:16,120 Speaker 1: mean just such just a visually stunning movie. So if 1356 01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:19,480 Speaker 1: you haven't seen it, definitely check it out. Took me 1357 01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:21,479 Speaker 1: a bit to get on board with it, but I did. 1358 01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:22,400 Speaker 3: All right. 1359 01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:25,120 Speaker 1: Phone lines are open at triple eight Rich one one 1360 01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:27,640 Speaker 1: eight eight eight seven four to two four to one 1361 01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:28,800 Speaker 1: zero one. 1362 01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:30,320 Speaker 3: Let me do a question. 1363 01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:32,680 Speaker 1: I get a lot of questions via email, so let 1364 01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:36,200 Speaker 1: me do a question I got from Roslind. She says, Hey, Rich, 1365 01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:39,720 Speaker 1: what are your recommendations regarding a laptop versus an iPad 1366 01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:44,000 Speaker 1: from Microsoft Office? I use it for personal nothing too fancy. 1367 01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:48,280 Speaker 1: Thanks in advance, Roz Roz. Here is my thought about 1368 01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:52,760 Speaker 1: a laptop versus an iPad. Okay, laptop is great if 1369 01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:57,600 Speaker 1: you are getting work done. It is a phenomenal work 1370 01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:01,840 Speaker 1: device you want to do You mentioned Microsoft Office. That 1371 01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:03,680 Speaker 1: leads me to believe that you want to do work 1372 01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:07,320 Speaker 1: on this device, whether it is email, whether it is 1373 01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:13,080 Speaker 1: writing documents, whether it is creating something anything. That's what 1374 01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:16,240 Speaker 1: I think a laptop is best for. The iPad is 1375 01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:19,840 Speaker 1: a phenomenal device, But the iPad is more of a 1376 01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:23,640 Speaker 1: content consumption device. And don't get me wrong, people do 1377 01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:26,200 Speaker 1: plenty of content creation on iPads. It can be used 1378 01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:28,760 Speaker 1: in many, many different ways. But I would say a 1379 01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:31,360 Speaker 1: majority of the people who are using an iPad are 1380 01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:35,080 Speaker 1: using it to consume content, whether that's Netflix, whether that 1381 01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:38,080 Speaker 1: is just reading their email, whether that's Web browsing, whether 1382 01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:40,320 Speaker 1: that's reading a book. You can do a lot of 1383 01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:43,320 Speaker 1: stuff on an iPad. It is an incredible device. But 1384 01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:48,519 Speaker 1: you mentioned Microsoft Office specifically, and so in that case, 1385 01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:51,880 Speaker 1: I would say you probably want a laptop. A laptop 1386 01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:55,160 Speaker 1: is going to be much more suited because of that 1387 01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:58,080 Speaker 1: keyboard that's built in, because of the screen, because of 1388 01:08:58,080 --> 01:08:58,639 Speaker 1: the ports. 1389 01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:00,760 Speaker 3: It's just going to be easy to use. 1390 01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:04,439 Speaker 1: Now, I will say I wish that Apple would get 1391 01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:07,920 Speaker 1: on board with a touch screen laptop, which my kids 1392 01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:10,800 Speaker 1: don't understand when they see me using the iPad or 1393 01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:12,719 Speaker 1: they use their iPad and then they go to their laptop. 1394 01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:14,760 Speaker 1: They say, I don't understand why Apple doesn't just have 1395 01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:17,080 Speaker 1: a touch screen, And I say, I don't know, and 1396 01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:18,680 Speaker 1: I think I do know. The answer is that they 1397 01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:21,240 Speaker 1: want you to buy the iPad in addition to the laptop. 1398 01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:23,640 Speaker 1: That's probably why they don't have the touch screen on 1399 01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:26,880 Speaker 1: the laptops. But all the other major companies have moved 1400 01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:30,080 Speaker 1: to a touchscreen laptop for the most part, and so 1401 01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:32,960 Speaker 1: you can have the best of both worlds. Where you 1402 01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:34,680 Speaker 1: see something on the screen, you want to tap a 1403 01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:37,000 Speaker 1: box or whatever you need to do, just tap the screen. 1404 01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:44,200 Speaker 1: That's not the case on the Microsoft or the MacBook computers. 1405 01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:49,280 Speaker 1: I will say that if you are thinking of getting 1406 01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:52,479 Speaker 1: the iPad with the keyboard case and maybe you're just 1407 01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:55,479 Speaker 1: doing light email, maybe you're just doing light work on 1408 01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:58,880 Speaker 1: the iPad, that's another solution because then you truly get 1409 01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,439 Speaker 1: the best of both worlds, especially if you're traveling a lot, 1410 01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:03,839 Speaker 1: because then you can have the iPad on the plane 1411 01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,040 Speaker 1: and when you get back to the hotel, you can 1412 01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:08,599 Speaker 1: actually do your work and email with that little keyboard. 1413 01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:11,639 Speaker 1: Those keyboards are never as good though, That's the bottom 1414 01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:15,639 Speaker 1: line with that. Susan wrote in and said, my nephew 1415 01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,840 Speaker 1: suggested I start using duck duck goo to search and 1416 01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:20,520 Speaker 1: duck for my emails. 1417 01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:25,240 Speaker 3: What are your thoughts, Sue? Okay. 1418 01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:31,720 Speaker 1: Duck Duckgo is a search engine that prides itself on privacy. 1419 01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:35,240 Speaker 1: That is the main thing. And you've probably seen the 1420 01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:38,360 Speaker 1: ads if you go to their website duck duckgo dot com, 1421 01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:40,000 Speaker 1: it says, tired of being tracked online? 1422 01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:40,599 Speaker 3: We can help. 1423 01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:43,240 Speaker 1: We don't store your personal information, we don't follow you 1424 01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:44,720 Speaker 1: around with ads, we don't track you. 1425 01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:46,519 Speaker 3: Ever, there's no sign up for this. 1426 01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:50,360 Speaker 1: You don't need an account to search, and their big 1427 01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:53,640 Speaker 1: thing is that it is private compared to Google, that 1428 01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:56,960 Speaker 1: as soon as you start searching, they're recording everything you're 1429 01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:00,320 Speaker 1: doing and putting it into a profile of who you 1430 01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:02,519 Speaker 1: are and what you're searching for, so that they can 1431 01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:06,320 Speaker 1: sell ads against that. So duc Ducco still has ads, 1432 01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:08,320 Speaker 1: but I think they're sold on a more broad level 1433 01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:11,479 Speaker 1: and they're not necessarily targeted towards you. They're targeted towards 1434 01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:13,920 Speaker 1: what you might be searching for. So if you search 1435 01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:17,320 Speaker 1: for kayaks, you're gonna get ads for kayaks, but the 1436 01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:20,040 Speaker 1: kayak company does not remember that you were searching for 1437 01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:23,080 Speaker 1: kayaks specifically. They just know that you happen to be 1438 01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:26,200 Speaker 1: searching for kayaks at that time. There's a difference there, 1439 01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:29,000 Speaker 1: and that's the reason why you get those follow follow 1440 01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,720 Speaker 1: me around ads where you search for a pair of 1441 01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:34,800 Speaker 1: shoes on one website or sneakers, and next thing you know, 1442 01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:38,040 Speaker 1: they're following you around to every other website because those 1443 01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:44,479 Speaker 1: shoe sellers have gotten information from Google that say, oh, 1444 01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:47,759 Speaker 1: you visited this website. In fact, they're getting the information 1445 01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:49,519 Speaker 1: from the website that you first visit. So let me 1446 01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:51,840 Speaker 1: explain how that works. You go to a website, let's 1447 01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:55,520 Speaker 1: say you go to a shoe website. That shoe website 1448 01:11:55,560 --> 01:12:00,240 Speaker 1: has a little tracking pixel in it from Facebook, from Google, 1449 01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:04,600 Speaker 1: from Microsoft, from other companies that serve up ads, and 1450 01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:06,840 Speaker 1: every time once you go to that website, it says, oh, 1451 01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:08,920 Speaker 1: Rich Demiro visited here. Now it may not have my 1452 01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:11,880 Speaker 1: name per se, but it has a link to who 1453 01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:14,640 Speaker 1: I am online, And so that website says, all right, 1454 01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:17,960 Speaker 1: Rich visited here. He looked at these sneakers and that's 1455 01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:21,120 Speaker 1: what he's interested in, and that information now goes into 1456 01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:23,600 Speaker 1: this little database. And then when I go to a 1457 01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:26,800 Speaker 1: different website, it says, oh, by the way, Rich was 1458 01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,120 Speaker 1: looking for these sneakers before, so you should show him 1459 01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:32,240 Speaker 1: these sneakers up higher on our search results because he's 1460 01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:34,439 Speaker 1: probably looking for those. And by the way, you might 1461 01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:36,400 Speaker 1: want to send him a deal for those sneakers because 1462 01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:39,559 Speaker 1: he's looking for those sneakers. Let's get him to make 1463 01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:42,720 Speaker 1: that purchase. Let's convert him, as they say. And so 1464 01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:46,200 Speaker 1: that's really what's happening. And the more that you search, 1465 01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:48,360 Speaker 1: the more information they get about you, the more they 1466 01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:51,600 Speaker 1: realize that you like to do outdoor stuff, you have 1467 01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:54,400 Speaker 1: a boat, you make a certain amount of money, you 1468 01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:56,320 Speaker 1: go to this place. You're looking at that place for 1469 01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:59,559 Speaker 1: a vacation, And all these websites that you visit sort 1470 01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:03,960 Speaker 1: of aang their information to prioritize the things that they 1471 01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,880 Speaker 1: think you like. And when you search on Google, same 1472 01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:09,200 Speaker 1: thing happens. It kind of knows what you're looking for. 1473 01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:12,559 Speaker 1: It prioritizes ads, and they sell ads at a higher 1474 01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:16,280 Speaker 1: cost based on knowing more about you. So it's a 1475 01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:19,040 Speaker 1: big business. So what I recommend Duck doc go Yes, 1476 01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:21,760 Speaker 1: if you like your privacy. I'm not a personally the 1477 01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:24,519 Speaker 1: biggest fan of the search results that you get, but 1478 01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:27,519 Speaker 1: I will recommend getting the Duck email address. In fact, 1479 01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:30,920 Speaker 1: I have that email address. It's at Duck dot com 1480 01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:33,960 Speaker 1: and it's a privacy centric email address that does not 1481 01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:36,960 Speaker 1: track you, and so it strips all the trackers out 1482 01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:39,200 Speaker 1: of your email when someone sends you something. So I 1483 01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:41,160 Speaker 1: use that when I sign up for websites that I 1484 01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:43,840 Speaker 1: may be shopping on or something like that, or maybe 1485 01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:45,920 Speaker 1: just one time things where I just you know, if 1486 01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:48,080 Speaker 1: I'm signing up for Wi Fi at a Starbucks, I'll 1487 01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:50,680 Speaker 1: just give out my Duck dot com email address so 1488 01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:52,920 Speaker 1: that way I can just turn off that email and 1489 01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:55,479 Speaker 1: it's not tracking me and they don't know what's going on. 1490 01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:57,559 Speaker 1: They don't get my real email address. So yeah, sure, 1491 01:13:57,560 --> 01:13:59,479 Speaker 1: as a secondary email address, it's free. 1492 01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:00,640 Speaker 3: Why not sign up for that? 1493 01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:04,519 Speaker 1: But as for Duck Duco, you know, it's fine. I 1494 01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:06,599 Speaker 1: think that you know, if you like the search results 1495 01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:09,439 Speaker 1: and it's working for you, go for it. Coming up 1496 01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:12,360 Speaker 1: next on the show, we've got Jefferson Graham joining me, 1497 01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:15,679 Speaker 1: tech guy extraordinaire. He's going to talk about getting better 1498 01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:18,439 Speaker 1: pictures with your iPhone plus. Your call is a triple 1499 01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:22,080 Speaker 1: eight rich one oh one. You're listening to rich on Tech. 1500 01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:30,920 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the third hour of rich on Tech. 1501 01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:34,360 Speaker 1: My name is rich DeMuro, hanging out talking technology with you, 1502 01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:38,400 Speaker 1: waiting for Jefferson Graham to arrive. He's going to join 1503 01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:43,040 Speaker 1: me former USA Today Talking Tech reporter. He's gonna join 1504 01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,639 Speaker 1: me in studio. We're gonna chat about the new yellow 1505 01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:47,720 Speaker 1: iPhone taking pictures. 1506 01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:51,720 Speaker 3: Let's see what else do I have for him. Let's see. 1507 01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:56,120 Speaker 1: Oh, Apple's new classical music app. That's interesting, So I'm 1508 01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:57,800 Speaker 1: gonna get his take on that. Why he thinks they 1509 01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:00,720 Speaker 1: did a separate app just for classical music. You can 1510 01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:03,840 Speaker 1: find me online at rich on Tech. My website is 1511 01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:07,120 Speaker 1: rich on tech dot tv. If you want to prove 1512 01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:09,280 Speaker 1: the links I've got on there. It's all the stuff 1513 01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:12,680 Speaker 1: I talk about on TV, my newsletter and all of 1514 01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:15,880 Speaker 1: my social media links and a link to a podcast 1515 01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:19,960 Speaker 1: version of this show. Jesse is in Brooksville, Florida. Jesse, 1516 01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:20,760 Speaker 1: you're on with Rich. 1517 01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:22,840 Speaker 9: Hey Rich, how's it going? 1518 01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:23,080 Speaker 11: Man? 1519 01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:25,200 Speaker 3: Everything's going well? How about you? 1520 01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:31,120 Speaker 11: Awesome? Pretty awesome? Yeah, just a quick question. Basically, I 1521 01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:37,320 Speaker 11: just switched over to my carrier, my cell phone carrier, 1522 01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:40,680 Speaker 11: to be my internet provided or at my home. So 1523 01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:42,679 Speaker 11: basically just a few months, I want to say, maybe 1524 01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:45,160 Speaker 11: like in summer, like June July, I went to do 1525 01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:47,360 Speaker 11: some upgrades on my cell phones and then you know, 1526 01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:50,760 Speaker 11: they they made us the offer of doing that. I 1527 01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:52,479 Speaker 11: thought it was too good to be true, actually, just 1528 01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:55,960 Speaker 11: because I'm actually saving money on what I was paying 1529 01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:59,440 Speaker 11: my cable company for Internet. Sure, that was pretty skeptical, 1530 01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:02,040 Speaker 11: pretty skeptical as to, you know, is this going to 1531 01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:04,160 Speaker 11: be as good? You know, we stream HD, we do 1532 01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:08,680 Speaker 11: you know the works, you know Netflix, there's a thousand devices, 1533 01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,400 Speaker 11: you know, all that kind of stuff. So I guess 1534 01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:13,640 Speaker 11: they gave me a money back guarantee. You know that 1535 01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:14,880 Speaker 11: if I didn't like it, I could return it, but 1536 01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:17,280 Speaker 11: I'm gonna go for it. Well, lo and behold. I 1537 01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:20,640 Speaker 11: mean I started connecting one thing after the others, my 1538 01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:24,000 Speaker 11: security system and everything little by literal was holding, holding, holding, 1539 01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:28,240 Speaker 11: and it's still holding. But I've been wondering, you know, 1540 01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:30,680 Speaker 11: the other day, I was just thinking about that. As 1541 01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:34,000 Speaker 11: we hear about so much hacking and stuff and craziness 1542 01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:35,799 Speaker 11: out there, I was wondering, I wonder how. 1543 01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:36,280 Speaker 5: Secure is this? 1544 01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:36,559 Speaker 7: You know? 1545 01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:39,200 Speaker 11: Is it as secure as what I had with. 1546 01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:39,679 Speaker 8: My cable company. 1547 01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:41,320 Speaker 11: I've been meaning to call for a while now, and 1548 01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:42,719 Speaker 11: I finally got around to it today. 1549 01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:44,040 Speaker 3: Good question. 1550 01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:48,000 Speaker 1: So you're wondering if the home internet because you're you're 1551 01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:50,720 Speaker 1: basically getting home Internet through your cable or through your 1552 01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:53,479 Speaker 1: cellular provider, which I'm guessing is either T Mobile or Verizon. 1553 01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:55,559 Speaker 8: Right, it is T Mobile. 1554 01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:57,800 Speaker 11: And it's like this device that you put in your house. 1555 01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:00,639 Speaker 11: It's like a little power that you sit there and 1556 01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:03,360 Speaker 11: it basically just starts to you know, it is the 1557 01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:06,280 Speaker 11: one that sends out that signal and everything just connects 1558 01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:10,080 Speaker 11: to it. It behaves like Wi Fi if everything recognizes 1559 01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:11,280 Speaker 11: it like Wi Fi. 1560 01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:13,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so what it's doing. 1561 01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:17,000 Speaker 1: Is it's basically a capturing a signal, a cellular signal 1562 01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:19,719 Speaker 1: from outside. Typically they want you to put these little 1563 01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:23,360 Speaker 1: routers near a window. It captures the cellular signal and 1564 01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:27,280 Speaker 1: then it broadcasts that cellular signal out as a Wi 1565 01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:30,360 Speaker 1: Fi signal in your home. So, for all intents and purposes, 1566 01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:34,080 Speaker 1: it functions exactly the same as your wired internet box 1567 01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:37,680 Speaker 1: that you typically have from your cable company or a 1568 01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:41,760 Speaker 1: fiber company, or back in the day you know a 1569 01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:44,640 Speaker 1: company that would provide just phone service, right like an 1570 01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:47,679 Speaker 1: AT and T or something. So it's it's very similar, 1571 01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:51,599 Speaker 1: except the cable that connects this box is no longer 1572 01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:54,400 Speaker 1: a cable. It's just wireless, so it's a five G signal. 1573 01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:57,640 Speaker 1: So is it as secure that's a great question. I 1574 01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:01,040 Speaker 1: actually think that it is very secure. I think that 1575 01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:04,720 Speaker 1: the problems that happen with hacking ninety nine percent of 1576 01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:06,920 Speaker 1: the time have to do with the network itself and 1577 01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:10,520 Speaker 1: the devices themselves, and actually the people that are accessing 1578 01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:13,160 Speaker 1: these things on the network. So I'm going to tweet 1579 01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:18,320 Speaker 1: out this PDF that actually the National Security Agency recently 1580 01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:22,640 Speaker 1: put out. This was in February. It's a best practices 1581 01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:26,600 Speaker 1: for securing your home network. And the bottom line is 1582 01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:29,720 Speaker 1: that people may get on your home network to get 1583 01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:32,960 Speaker 1: access to your devices. And the reality is once someone's 1584 01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:36,760 Speaker 1: inside your home, if they are connecting on your network, 1585 01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:39,080 Speaker 1: that's when they can do the most damage because they 1586 01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:42,040 Speaker 1: are on the inside. From the outside, it's a little 1587 01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:44,280 Speaker 1: bit tougher. You have to have an open port. You 1588 01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:47,320 Speaker 1: have to Most of these routers come come to you 1589 01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:50,559 Speaker 1: in a way that it's pretty much locked down and 1590 01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:54,640 Speaker 1: unless you do something, unless you go into these settings 1591 01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:58,719 Speaker 1: and you change something, they're going to be locked down 1592 01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:02,719 Speaker 1: from outside folks getting access to the inside of your network. 1593 01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:04,479 Speaker 3: So that's typically how it's done. 1594 01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:07,519 Speaker 1: With that said, a couple of recommendations and going off 1595 01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:12,360 Speaker 1: this executive summary here, So you got to update your devices. 1596 01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:13,960 Speaker 1: Those always have to be up to date, and that 1597 01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:17,400 Speaker 1: includes this router that T Mobile gave you. You can 1598 01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:19,400 Speaker 1: log in if you look on the bottom of this router, 1599 01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:22,679 Speaker 1: there is a little log in information. You can access 1600 01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:25,479 Speaker 1: the software on that router and there may be a 1601 01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:28,479 Speaker 1: firmware update or a software update for that router. So 1602 01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:30,240 Speaker 1: I would check to see that would be my first 1603 01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:34,000 Speaker 1: line of defense. Then I would one hundred percent have 1604 01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:38,080 Speaker 1: a guest network. So if the router supports it, and 1605 01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:42,559 Speaker 1: many routers, do you want a secondary network that is 1606 01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:44,840 Speaker 1: just for guests when they come to your home. And 1607 01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:47,640 Speaker 1: I know it feels weird. I have it on my refrigerator. 1608 01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:50,240 Speaker 1: I've got a little QR code that people can scan, 1609 01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:53,000 Speaker 1: and it feels odd giving guests this kind of like 1610 01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:57,040 Speaker 1: secondary network. But the reality is it is protecting your 1611 01:19:57,080 --> 01:19:59,360 Speaker 1: network from them. And I'm not saying your friends are 1612 01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:01,960 Speaker 1: going to do anything on your network, but you never know. 1613 01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:04,560 Speaker 1: One of the kids friends may come over with a 1614 01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:07,400 Speaker 1: virus on their computer and it may somehow make its 1615 01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:09,680 Speaker 1: way onto your network. So you don't want to do 1616 01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:13,120 Speaker 1: you don't want to have people connecting to your standard network. 1617 01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:15,120 Speaker 1: I know it seems odd to make them connect to 1618 01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:18,799 Speaker 1: a secondary but just make a guest network. Definitely, definitely 1619 01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:21,400 Speaker 1: do that. That's a very smart thing to do. And 1620 01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:22,880 Speaker 1: then when it comes to the people that are on 1621 01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:27,440 Speaker 1: your network, you want to remind them about standard security, 1622 01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:31,840 Speaker 1: which is clicking links today is pretty much the main 1623 01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:36,639 Speaker 1: delivery mechanism for all malware that people are getting attacked by. 1624 01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:39,759 Speaker 1: And so when you're clicking that link that you get 1625 01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:42,760 Speaker 1: in an email or a text, message, and then you're 1626 01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:45,280 Speaker 1: getting some sort of software that's installed in your device 1627 01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:48,640 Speaker 1: that is where the problems happen. And so most of 1628 01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:51,360 Speaker 1: the time it's just human error. We're just clicking something 1629 01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:55,200 Speaker 1: without thinking about it, and that gives the bad actors 1630 01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:59,720 Speaker 1: a method to access our devices and so, and they're 1631 01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:02,080 Speaker 1: always looking for these exploits, and that's the reason why 1632 01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:04,799 Speaker 1: you also want to make sure all of your software 1633 01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:09,280 Speaker 1: is updated on the devices that are connecting to this network. Now, 1634 01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:12,440 Speaker 1: if you want to be really secure, there are devices 1635 01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:14,960 Speaker 1: out there that can help you secure your network. And 1636 01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:17,880 Speaker 1: one of them. I have not personally tested this, but 1637 01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:20,080 Speaker 1: I know about it. I know it's been out there 1638 01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:23,080 Speaker 1: for a long time. It's called the FIREWALLA. And so 1639 01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:27,799 Speaker 1: a firewall is basically a mechanism that keeps you secure 1640 01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:31,439 Speaker 1: from the outside of the network. And so FIREWALLA is 1641 01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:34,360 Speaker 1: a little device that you plug in to your network 1642 01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:38,280 Speaker 1: and it will block it will basically try to safeguard 1643 01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:41,439 Speaker 1: you as much as possible from anything that might happen 1644 01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:43,960 Speaker 1: to your network. Now, some routers have these features built in, 1645 01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:47,280 Speaker 1: but this is a third party device that you can get. 1646 01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:51,360 Speaker 1: It's a little expensive. The cheapest one, I believe is 1647 01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:55,360 Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty nine dollars. But it's one of 1648 01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:57,680 Speaker 1: these set and forget type of things. You plug it 1649 01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:00,439 Speaker 1: into your network and you maybe you know, tweak some 1650 01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:03,280 Speaker 1: of the settings, but it does a lot of things. 1651 01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:06,600 Speaker 1: So not only does it protect your network from cyber attacks, 1652 01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:09,040 Speaker 1: it's got content filtering. So if you have kids and 1653 01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:10,960 Speaker 1: you want to take advantage of some of those things, 1654 01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:13,599 Speaker 1: you can do that. You can block ads across your 1655 01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:16,679 Speaker 1: entire network. So I've got my router set up where 1656 01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:19,280 Speaker 1: it will block all the ads on the network, much 1657 01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:21,760 Speaker 1: to my kids dislike because some of these games they 1658 01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:24,800 Speaker 1: play rely on ads to serve up and they don't 1659 01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:27,959 Speaker 1: like that feature of what I do built in VPN, 1660 01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:30,400 Speaker 1: so you can also have a VPN that's built into this. 1661 01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:33,880 Speaker 1: And there's no monthly fee on this, so that's kind 1662 01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:35,240 Speaker 1: of nice as well. It's kind of one of those 1663 01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:37,040 Speaker 1: things where you buy it once and it's going to 1664 01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:39,480 Speaker 1: last you for a long time. So again that's FIREWALLA. 1665 01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:42,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if you need this per se on 1666 01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:43,960 Speaker 1: your network. I think that I would do all the 1667 01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:47,000 Speaker 1: things that I mentioned first and just make sure that 1668 01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:49,960 Speaker 1: folks on your network know what's happening. Make sure you 1669 01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:53,040 Speaker 1: don't have any ports open for any gaming or anything 1670 01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:55,240 Speaker 1: that people are doing. But that's really what you want 1671 01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:56,960 Speaker 1: to do, is just make sure things are locked down 1672 01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:59,519 Speaker 1: and make sure you have that separate guest network, make 1673 01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:02,280 Speaker 1: sure everything up to date. And I think that's really 1674 01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:05,800 Speaker 1: the best way to protect yourself in a very convenient way. 1675 01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:07,320 Speaker 1: And if you want to take things to the next 1676 01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:11,000 Speaker 1: level with this with a physical device like the firewall, 1677 01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:14,400 Speaker 1: and then sure go with something like that. But as 1678 01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:18,599 Speaker 1: for the actual wireless being any more insecure than the wired, 1679 01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:19,240 Speaker 1: I don't think so. 1680 01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:21,799 Speaker 3: I think you're going to be just fine. So Jesse, good. 1681 01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:24,599 Speaker 1: Question, Thanks for calling in, appreciate it, and thanks for listening. 1682 01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:28,080 Speaker 1: All right, before we have our guest, Jefferson Graham come 1683 01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:30,599 Speaker 1: into the studio, let me tell you about a new 1684 01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:35,680 Speaker 1: game from the makers of Pokemon Go. So it's called Paradot. 1685 01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:39,800 Speaker 1: So Paradot is launching on May ninth, and this is 1686 01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:42,400 Speaker 1: a new game that is sort of like Pokemon Go. 1687 01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:47,240 Speaker 1: So think these whimsical little creatures, but these are as 1688 01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:51,000 Speaker 1: they describe amazing magical creatures that eat, sleep, play with toys, 1689 01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:54,840 Speaker 1: explore their environment, get bored, develop unique personalities, and are 1690 01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:58,160 Speaker 1: always in need of a loving adopter like you. They're 1691 01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:01,120 Speaker 1: all unique, and it's your job to feed these things, 1692 01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:02,760 Speaker 1: keep them healthy, keep them love. 1693 01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:03,679 Speaker 3: They're called Dots. 1694 01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:07,400 Speaker 1: They start out as a little baby, and basically they 1695 01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:10,000 Speaker 1: say this is a game that delivers all the joy 1696 01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:12,479 Speaker 1: of raising a pet without the mess. Kind of reminds 1697 01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:16,760 Speaker 1: me of these Tamagatchi games. Over the years, there's been 1698 01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:20,000 Speaker 1: a lot of games like this. I think that obviously 1699 01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:24,000 Speaker 1: with Niantic and Pokemon Go, it's all about the real 1700 01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:26,960 Speaker 1: world meeting the virtual world, and so I think we're 1701 01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:29,280 Speaker 1: going to see some unique plays there. So if you 1702 01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:32,000 Speaker 1: want to get this new Paradot p E R I 1703 01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:34,479 Speaker 1: d O T. If you want to get this game 1704 01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:37,320 Speaker 1: on your phone, as soon as it launches, you can 1705 01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:39,840 Speaker 1: go search it in the App Store or Google Play 1706 01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:42,479 Speaker 1: search Paradot, and you can sign up for what's called 1707 01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:45,439 Speaker 1: a pre registration and you'll get a notification as soon 1708 01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:48,680 Speaker 1: as the app is available. Coming out May ninth. I'll 1709 01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:51,479 Speaker 1: play this, I'll try it out. It's been since twenty 1710 01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:55,280 Speaker 1: sixteen when Pokemon Go came out, and that game really 1711 01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:58,120 Speaker 1: changed things with how they mix the real world and 1712 01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:01,240 Speaker 1: the augmented reality world and people are still having fun 1713 01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:04,519 Speaker 1: playing that. All right, Coming up, Jefferson Graham is going 1714 01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:06,000 Speaker 1: to join me. We're going to talk about the new 1715 01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:08,680 Speaker 1: yellow iPhone, which I have in my hand right here. 1716 01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:11,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get some thoughts on from him about what 1717 01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:14,200 Speaker 1: he thinks of this color, which I'll describe it when 1718 01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:16,760 Speaker 1: he gets back in here. Plus, we will talk about 1719 01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:20,200 Speaker 1: taking better pictures on the iPhone, and we'll talk about 1720 01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:23,760 Speaker 1: Apple's new app just for classical music. You're listening to 1721 01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:26,400 Speaker 1: rich on tech. Give me a call triple eight rich 1722 01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:29,880 Speaker 1: one on one eight eight eight seven four to two four. 1723 01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:31,760 Speaker 3: One zero one. 1724 01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:38,880 Speaker 1: Let me tell folks about Jefferson so big into photography, 1725 01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:44,439 Speaker 1: getting the best pictures out of the iPhone, and what 1726 01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:50,839 Speaker 1: have you been up to? Come over to my microphone. 1727 01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:52,800 Speaker 1: We can share a microphone here. 1728 01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:55,160 Speaker 3: Let's do that. Oh there you go, look at that. 1729 01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:59,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, sounds good now, alrighty. I do a video 1730 01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:02,320 Speaker 2: series on YouTube called Photo Walks TV. I take people 1731 01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:04,439 Speaker 2: with me to great places and show them how to 1732 01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:10,639 Speaker 2: get better photos, better travel photos on their smartphone. We've 1733 01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:13,880 Speaker 2: got a newsletter comes out every weekend called the Photo 1734 01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:20,920 Speaker 2: Walks TV newsletter. Photography meets Technology meets travel. 1735 01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:23,040 Speaker 1: And I think we just got your mic. The mic 1736 01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:26,360 Speaker 1: was actually unplugged. You know what I want for this show. 1737 01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:28,760 Speaker 1: I want to soundboard because I want to be able 1738 01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:32,479 Speaker 1: to do like the different, like the and so now can. 1739 01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:35,400 Speaker 3: We hear you? Let's say, now you know so much better? 1740 01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:36,439 Speaker 3: I love it. 1741 01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:39,640 Speaker 1: Okay, So you're doing photo walks. You've been traveling a 1742 01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:42,920 Speaker 1: lot with this show. Huh, yes, I have. Where we've been. 1743 01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:46,679 Speaker 1: We've been to Solving. Yes, I love Solving. Yes, it's 1744 01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:49,280 Speaker 1: one of my favorite places. It's this Solving is a 1745 01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:52,320 Speaker 1: city that's about what an hour and a half two 1746 01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:53,080 Speaker 1: hours north. 1747 01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:56,679 Speaker 2: Of a half hours an hour. It's seven thousand people, 1748 01:26:57,479 --> 01:26:59,080 Speaker 2: but they get a million visitors a year. 1749 01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:01,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's in credible. It's like a little it's 1750 01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:04,639 Speaker 1: really like a Hallmark movie twenty four to seven. 1751 01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:08,360 Speaker 2: It's a Danish town that was developed by Danish immigrants 1752 01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:12,360 Speaker 2: and they kept all the architecture is incredible. But the 1753 01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:16,320 Speaker 2: surrounding community is you know, Sandy Inns Valley is out 1754 01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:17,040 Speaker 2: of this world. 1755 01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:20,559 Speaker 1: Beautiful, beautiful place, great wine tasting up there. They just 1756 01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:23,360 Speaker 1: had a couple of really high end places open up it. 1757 01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:26,439 Speaker 1: For many, many years, it was very much like kind 1758 01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:29,400 Speaker 1: of a three star hotel town. Now they've got this 1759 01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:33,240 Speaker 1: place that is Hotel talk that's really nice, but no 1760 01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:35,280 Speaker 1: even nicer. I'm not even sure what the name is, 1761 01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:38,799 Speaker 1: but it's this hotel that just opened by Loso Livos. Anyway, 1762 01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:42,360 Speaker 1: it's like more than five star because I know because 1763 01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:44,640 Speaker 1: my wife is planning some sort of like party up 1764 01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:47,960 Speaker 1: there and she has to stay there, and it's very expensive, 1765 01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:50,800 Speaker 1: so we've been debating whether it's worth it. 1766 01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:53,800 Speaker 2: Anybody listening, this is the time to go. Your best 1767 01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:56,439 Speaker 2: time is before spring break. We have a few more weeks. 1768 01:27:56,800 --> 01:28:00,160 Speaker 2: Winner is just gorgeous and it's not jammed, so it's 1769 01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:01,639 Speaker 2: a really good time. And I was in Las Vegas 1770 01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:03,679 Speaker 2: this week as as you were as I was yet 1771 01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:05,160 Speaker 2: and I think we were at different events. 1772 01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:07,360 Speaker 1: I was at no event. I was at my own event, 1773 01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:10,120 Speaker 1: the Rich DeMuro enjoying Las Vegas. I was supposed to 1774 01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:12,040 Speaker 1: a story there and then that didn't work out. By 1775 01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:16,160 Speaker 1: the way, we're talking with Jefferson Graham, tech Extraordinaire. He 1776 01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:19,759 Speaker 1: is formerly of USA Today and now with Photo Walks TV. 1777 01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:21,840 Speaker 1: Give us a call if you want to talk about 1778 01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:24,840 Speaker 1: tech eight eight eight Rich one O one eight eight 1779 01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:28,080 Speaker 1: eight seven four to two, four to one zero one. 1780 01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:29,200 Speaker 3: You want to take a call? 1781 01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:33,240 Speaker 1: Sure, all right, let's see what Tim in uh Oak Hills, 1782 01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:35,439 Speaker 1: California is asking about? 1783 01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:37,280 Speaker 3: Tim? What's on your mind? Welcome to the show. 1784 01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:41,120 Speaker 7: Good afternoon, Rich, Thanks so much. I have a little device. 1785 01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:43,120 Speaker 7: It's kind of cool. It's a little things in China, 1786 01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:46,759 Speaker 7: like seven or eight blocks, and it's a Bluetooth receiver 1787 01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:49,720 Speaker 7: to plunge into a cigarette lighter of the car. I 1788 01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:51,720 Speaker 7: actually have one of the house, and it turns the 1789 01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:55,240 Speaker 7: Bluetooth signal to my cell phone into an FM signal, 1790 01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:57,280 Speaker 7: So no matter where I go on my property, I 1791 01:28:57,280 --> 01:29:00,280 Speaker 7: can have different radios on and always hear iHeartRadio. It's 1792 01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:04,040 Speaker 7: kind of cool to have, you know, multiple radio stations 1793 01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:08,800 Speaker 7: receivers all around the house from the little thing. It 1794 01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:11,960 Speaker 7: works perfectly with my little Android phone. But when I 1795 01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:14,120 Speaker 7: just got a tablet about two or three weeks ago, 1796 01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:17,080 Speaker 7: it seemed to work fine the first time. But today 1797 01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:20,400 Speaker 7: I actually noticed it yesterday when I trans When I 1798 01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:24,160 Speaker 7: listened to iHeartRadio on the tablet itself, it sounds fine, 1799 01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:28,680 Speaker 7: but when I transmit Bluetooth to this little transceiver, that 1800 01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:32,040 Speaker 7: turns it into an FM signal. It's all garbled and distorted, 1801 01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:35,240 Speaker 7: and I thought, well, maybe it's the iHeart app. But 1802 01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:38,040 Speaker 7: it does it with my local radio station app as well, 1803 01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:39,320 Speaker 7: and that's where I'm at. 1804 01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:42,920 Speaker 1: So you've got a device that is maybe I'm not 1805 01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:46,759 Speaker 1: understanding this. It's a device that's sending a FM signal 1806 01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:48,440 Speaker 1: through your house or a Bluetooth signal. 1807 01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:48,639 Speaker 3: Through your house. 1808 01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:51,320 Speaker 7: It receives the Bluetooth signal. It's looks look like a 1809 01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:54,120 Speaker 7: little dongle that plugs into a cigarette lighter. Your car 1810 01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:56,880 Speaker 7: has a little boltmeter on it in the USB charging things. 1811 01:29:57,040 --> 01:29:59,679 Speaker 7: But yeah, it receives a Bluetooth signal from my phone, 1812 01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:02,280 Speaker 7: and then you can adjust which frequency you know, you 1813 01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:05,759 Speaker 7: get to a frequency nobody else is transmitting on. Okay, 1814 01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:08,640 Speaker 7: zero or eighty nine point seven? I think I use 1815 01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:12,799 Speaker 7: up here, okay, And then it's a nice FM signal 1816 01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:15,200 Speaker 7: that I can listen to radio all over my got it? 1817 01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:18,200 Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm actually surprised this works that well. But 1818 01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:20,160 Speaker 1: are you is are you sort of in a more 1819 01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:20,920 Speaker 1: rural area. 1820 01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:22,799 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I mean I'm in the high desert. 1821 01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:24,320 Speaker 3: Here at Old Kills, Okay, got it? So? 1822 01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:28,240 Speaker 1: So it so certain stations work, Certain stations don't work. 1823 01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:29,640 Speaker 1: That's what I'm getting from this. 1824 01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:32,599 Speaker 7: Well, the thing is my with my cell phone, everything 1825 01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:35,919 Speaker 7: works perfect, no matter what app I use, whether it's iHeart, 1826 01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:38,800 Speaker 7: I heard, I pretty much only use a KFI And 1827 01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:41,080 Speaker 7: I have a local radio station up here called Talk 1828 01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:43,080 Speaker 7: nine to sixty that I listened to occasionally, and that's 1829 01:30:43,240 --> 01:30:46,080 Speaker 7: they have their own private El Dorado app. That all 1830 01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:49,479 Speaker 7: sounds fine. So it's not the station, it's just whether 1831 01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:53,280 Speaker 7: it's iHeart app or my local radio station app. My 1832 01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:55,840 Speaker 7: cell phone seems to work perfectly. It's worked two or 1833 01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:58,120 Speaker 7: three years I've been doing. This works great. But with 1834 01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:02,000 Speaker 7: the with the tablet when it connected by Bluetooth, it's 1835 01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:04,320 Speaker 7: garbled and cuts out too as well. 1836 01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:05,760 Speaker 3: What kind of tablet is this? 1837 01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:11,400 Speaker 7: It is a Blue Phones. Yeah, that's b l u okay. 1838 01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:12,920 Speaker 7: You smartphones? 1839 01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:15,880 Speaker 3: That might be it right there. That might model number 1840 01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:17,880 Speaker 3: is M eight l M A l okay. 1841 01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:21,280 Speaker 1: So that might be the reason Blue Blue products are 1842 01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:27,040 Speaker 1: traditionally inexpensive, and they may not have the best Bluetooth 1843 01:31:27,479 --> 01:31:30,439 Speaker 1: in that product, like the the Bluetooth. Yeah, there's different 1844 01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:34,040 Speaker 1: versions of Bluetooth, and so it may be that the 1845 01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:37,720 Speaker 1: version they're using is just a very inexpensive version is that. 1846 01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:38,679 Speaker 2: Tried it on iPad? 1847 01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:40,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say that's what I would do. 1848 01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:42,160 Speaker 1: Get a friend over there, try it on an iPad 1849 01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:43,160 Speaker 1: and see if that works. 1850 01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:44,960 Speaker 7: But well, it works, it works on my cell phone. 1851 01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:47,080 Speaker 7: I've already I know that the receiver thing works fine, 1852 01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:49,360 Speaker 7: and it works my cell phone is no problem. But 1853 01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:51,080 Speaker 7: the thing is, it worked two weeks ago, it seemed 1854 01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:52,599 Speaker 7: to work fine. It seems to be just this weekend 1855 01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:53,280 Speaker 7: when I started up. 1856 01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:54,400 Speaker 8: It's just doing it well. 1857 01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:56,880 Speaker 7: I was thinking, would it would it do any good 1858 01:31:56,880 --> 01:32:00,000 Speaker 7: to do a full factory reset, so to speak on Android? 1859 01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:02,479 Speaker 1: Now you're speaking my line. I love doing that. That's 1860 01:32:02,479 --> 01:32:04,240 Speaker 1: my favorite thing to do on any device. 1861 01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:04,920 Speaker 3: I love. 1862 01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:06,880 Speaker 1: Three months. 1863 01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:09,200 Speaker 3: Well, that's that's a lot. That's that's a lot. 1864 01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:13,160 Speaker 1: But I love well I I yeah, I would do 1865 01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:16,080 Speaker 1: the I would do the the full reset. I love 1866 01:32:16,160 --> 01:32:18,759 Speaker 1: doing that. It's you know, you do a factory reset. 1867 01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:21,640 Speaker 1: It gets everything back to the standard the way it 1868 01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:24,280 Speaker 1: was from the factory. Maybe you installed something on this 1869 01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:27,360 Speaker 1: device that just isn't working properly, or it just isn't 1870 01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:31,960 Speaker 1: playing nice with this receiver. I'm still not understanding why 1871 01:32:32,040 --> 01:32:35,240 Speaker 1: you wouldn't just use the app to stream the station. 1872 01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:38,040 Speaker 2: I would just test it on another another person's device 1873 01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:38,960 Speaker 2: and see what happens. 1874 01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:41,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's what I would do. But Tim, it 1875 01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:43,680 Speaker 1: sounds like you've got it figured out. This reminds me 1876 01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:46,840 Speaker 1: of when I first had, like back in the car, 1877 01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:49,160 Speaker 1: Like when you would use like your your iPod and 1878 01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:52,600 Speaker 1: you didn't have like a connection, right, You'd use like 1879 01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:57,120 Speaker 1: an FM transmitter to get your signal, and it never worked, right. 1880 01:32:57,120 --> 01:32:59,360 Speaker 1: I ended up having to get it like factory installed. 1881 01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:01,760 Speaker 1: All right, more of rich on tech coming up after this. 1882 01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:04,160 Speaker 1: I've got Jefferson Graham in studio. Give us a call 1883 01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:06,559 Speaker 1: at Triple eight Rich one oh one. That's eight eight 1884 01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:09,879 Speaker 1: eight seven four to two, four to one zero one. 1885 01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:11,720 Speaker 1: We'll talk about the yellow iPhone. 1886 01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:17,600 Speaker 2: Coming up next Jefferson Graham dot nettwalkstv dot com or 1887 01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:20,080 Speaker 2: two great places. And I've got my newsletter Jefferson Graham 1888 01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:23,360 Speaker 2: dot substack dot com comes out every Saturday and Sunday. 1889 01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:25,160 Speaker 3: You told me about substack. 1890 01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:28,000 Speaker 1: I signed up and I did it for a bit 1891 01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:29,560 Speaker 1: and I still have my newsletter. 1892 01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:32,400 Speaker 3: Uh, I guess which list. 1893 01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:35,280 Speaker 1: But I don't actively do it, but one of these 1894 01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:37,520 Speaker 1: days I will because I love the newsletter. 1895 01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:40,559 Speaker 2: Best journalism experience I've ever had, and I've been around 1896 01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:41,280 Speaker 2: for a while. 1897 01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:44,240 Speaker 3: Because the feedback it's so it's so direct to your fans. 1898 01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:47,200 Speaker 2: Yes, and they feel you know, you're going into their 1899 01:33:47,240 --> 01:33:50,120 Speaker 2: email box, and like there's always a question, well, what 1900 01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:52,200 Speaker 2: time should I send it? When's a good day to 1901 01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:55,080 Speaker 2: send It doesn't matter. People are happy to get an 1902 01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:58,160 Speaker 2: email that's not a sales email at any time of 1903 01:33:58,200 --> 01:33:58,519 Speaker 2: the day. 1904 01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:03,720 Speaker 1: And also, you're in is your inbox like the way 1905 01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:05,560 Speaker 1: I see my email inboxes. 1906 01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:06,679 Speaker 3: It's all the tasks. 1907 01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:08,800 Speaker 1: So if I get it no matter what time of 1908 01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:11,400 Speaker 1: day and I'm going through my emails, I will save 1909 01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:13,040 Speaker 1: it for later and I will get to it when 1910 01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:14,439 Speaker 1: I get to it. I don't delete things out of 1911 01:34:14,439 --> 01:34:16,880 Speaker 1: my inbox until I'm done with them, and it's almost like. 1912 01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:18,679 Speaker 3: A little to do list. All right, let's talk about 1913 01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:19,160 Speaker 3: two things. 1914 01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:23,640 Speaker 1: We've got the new in my hand, the new iPhone 1915 01:34:23,720 --> 01:34:28,120 Speaker 1: fourteen and fourteen plus. This is the fourteen in yellow, yes, 1916 01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:31,559 Speaker 1: end of sentence. There's really nothing else except it's a color, 1917 01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:34,040 Speaker 1: and it's only on the fourteen and plus. It's not 1918 01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:38,160 Speaker 1: on the Pro or Promax. It's yellow yellow like a 1919 01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:42,360 Speaker 1: bowl of Trix or like Pikachu from Pokemon. That's about 1920 01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:45,480 Speaker 1: as close. It's Would you call it banana yellow or no? 1921 01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:48,639 Speaker 2: No, it's yellower. It's yellower than a banana. It's brighter yellow, 1922 01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:52,320 Speaker 2: it's bright. Yeah, the question I had. I understand why 1923 01:34:52,360 --> 01:34:54,160 Speaker 2: Apple does it because it looks good in an ad 1924 01:34:54,160 --> 01:34:56,719 Speaker 2: And they may sell a few one hundred thousand copies, 1925 01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:58,040 Speaker 2: I don't know whatever. 1926 01:34:57,840 --> 01:35:00,799 Speaker 3: They'll sell millions. So they'll sell millions. 1927 01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:03,320 Speaker 2: Okay, they'll sell millions. But who do you know who 1928 01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:04,360 Speaker 2: doesn't have a case. 1929 01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:05,960 Speaker 3: That's my question. 1930 01:35:06,360 --> 01:35:08,840 Speaker 2: Okay, and my wife has a case and it happens. 1931 01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:09,120 Speaker 3: To be yellow. 1932 01:35:09,479 --> 01:35:11,439 Speaker 2: Oh so it's like Hlity has a yellow phone. She 1933 01:35:11,479 --> 01:35:14,479 Speaker 2: was ahead of twenty dollars case or whatever we paid 1934 01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:17,519 Speaker 2: for it, you know, and there was no need to 1935 01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:19,120 Speaker 2: have this yellow phone. None. 1936 01:35:19,240 --> 01:35:23,720 Speaker 1: I don't understand the phone colors because it's always the 1937 01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:24,960 Speaker 1: same you put a case on. 1938 01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:26,559 Speaker 3: Now, I do have a clear case. 1939 01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:28,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, some people have clear cases. 1940 01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:31,040 Speaker 1: But if you're gonna, I mean, I don't know. And 1941 01:35:31,120 --> 01:35:34,679 Speaker 1: I've been wanting to go caseless, but I actually think 1942 01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:36,559 Speaker 1: my phone is grippier with the case. 1943 01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:39,439 Speaker 3: I like the case on it. And are you caseless. 1944 01:35:39,640 --> 01:35:40,400 Speaker 3: You have the big case. 1945 01:35:40,439 --> 01:35:41,120 Speaker 2: I have the wallet. 1946 01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:42,800 Speaker 3: You have the wallet case. So you can't do that. 1947 01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:45,519 Speaker 2: I don't. I haven't had a wallet for years, so 1948 01:35:45,680 --> 01:35:49,120 Speaker 2: this is my wallet. And then it's been fantastic. And 1949 01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:51,640 Speaker 2: then I have a cage. I have a cage on 1950 01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:55,439 Speaker 2: my other iPhone. A photographer, I'm always going around with 1951 01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:57,040 Speaker 2: multiple iPhones. 1952 01:35:56,840 --> 01:35:57,200 Speaker 3: All right. 1953 01:35:57,240 --> 01:35:59,639 Speaker 1: So seven hundred and ninety nine dollars for the one 1954 01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:03,479 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty eight gigabyte version of this phone, the 1955 01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:06,160 Speaker 1: iPhone fourteen plus and yellow starts at eight ninety nine. 1956 01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:08,960 Speaker 3: It is going to be available. Let's see. 1957 01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:13,560 Speaker 1: I think yesterdaek Yes, wasn't it yesterday? Availability Tuesday, March fourteenth. 1958 01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:16,599 Speaker 1: Pre Orders were on Friday. So if you are looking 1959 01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:20,040 Speaker 1: to get a yellow phone, there you go, or by yourself. 1960 01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:21,200 Speaker 2: It's twenty dollars case. 1961 01:36:21,160 --> 01:36:23,400 Speaker 1: Or buy a case. And you know, but here's the thing, people. 1962 01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:26,160 Speaker 1: Apple has gotten on this cadence where now they come 1963 01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:28,880 Speaker 1: out with a spring color of the iPhone and it's 1964 01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:32,519 Speaker 1: always this. You know, it was purple, then it was blue, red, 1965 01:36:32,720 --> 01:36:35,640 Speaker 1: now it's yellow. So it just it's just the way 1966 01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:38,759 Speaker 1: Apple operates. And I really struggled with this on KTLA 1967 01:36:38,840 --> 01:36:41,200 Speaker 1: because I was like, do I mention like, is this one? 1968 01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:43,720 Speaker 1: I get three news stories a day? Is that one 1969 01:36:43,720 --> 01:36:44,879 Speaker 1: of my news updates? 1970 01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:45,519 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1971 01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:48,759 Speaker 1: It's just to justify you know it is. Okay, let's 1972 01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:52,040 Speaker 1: let's go to Austin in San Diego. 1973 01:36:52,200 --> 01:36:55,680 Speaker 3: Austin. You're on with Rich and Jefferson. 1974 01:36:56,240 --> 01:36:57,000 Speaker 7: Hey, how's it going? 1975 01:36:57,240 --> 01:36:59,800 Speaker 3: That's going great? How about you? Good? 1976 01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:00,360 Speaker 1: Great? 1977 01:37:01,200 --> 01:37:02,080 Speaker 3: What can we help you with? 1978 01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:03,599 Speaker 4: Hey? 1979 01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:07,160 Speaker 6: So I was just asking about I've always used Chrome 1980 01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:10,160 Speaker 6: as my internet browser, and lately I've been having a 1981 01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:12,400 Speaker 6: lot of issues where it keeps popping up saying I 1982 01:37:12,479 --> 01:37:16,840 Speaker 6: need to updateate web pages, like for banking. I'll open 1983 01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:19,639 Speaker 6: one tab and it loads, you know, six pages, and 1984 01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:22,680 Speaker 6: half the pages don't fully load, or it looks like, 1985 01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:27,200 Speaker 6: you know, it's an HML HTML page without any kind 1986 01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:30,840 Speaker 6: of like anything to it. So question being what would 1987 01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:34,080 Speaker 6: be your recommendation for it internet browser if I still 1988 01:37:34,120 --> 01:37:37,960 Speaker 6: want the conveniences of Google integration with Chrome. 1989 01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:42,720 Speaker 1: Are you running on Windows or Mac Windows? Okay, I 1990 01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:45,040 Speaker 1: think you've got some malware on your computer. I think 1991 01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:47,960 Speaker 1: that's what's happening. And I will tell you that Chrome 1992 01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:51,599 Speaker 1: definitely slows down after a while. So what I would 1993 01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:55,200 Speaker 1: do is I've been using actually Edge for a bit, 1994 01:37:55,320 --> 01:37:57,280 Speaker 1: which is Microsoft's version of Chrome. 1995 01:37:57,920 --> 01:37:59,360 Speaker 3: I don't like it as much as Chrome. I think 1996 01:37:59,439 --> 01:38:00,000 Speaker 3: Chrome is better. 1997 01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:04,360 Speaker 1: The fact that you're saying you're getting update notifications on Chrome, 1998 01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:05,280 Speaker 1: I don't think that's a big deal. 1999 01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:07,240 Speaker 3: All you need to do is reopen the app and 2000 01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:07,919 Speaker 3: it updates. 2001 01:38:07,960 --> 01:38:09,960 Speaker 1: So in fact, I just opened my Chrome and I 2002 01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:12,320 Speaker 1: said relaunch Chrome to finish updating. 2003 01:38:12,400 --> 01:38:16,280 Speaker 2: So uninstall very simply picking off and reinstall. 2004 01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:18,800 Speaker 1: You don't even have to do that. On Windows. There's 2005 01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:21,360 Speaker 1: actually a built in they're taking it away, but there's 2006 01:38:21,400 --> 01:38:24,720 Speaker 1: a built in reset button on Chrome. Okay, and I 2007 01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:26,719 Speaker 1: will tell you where it is. Okay, you go here. 2008 01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:30,160 Speaker 1: I have this written down because I actually was going 2009 01:38:30,240 --> 01:38:32,639 Speaker 1: to talk about this, but then Google mentioned that they're 2010 01:38:32,640 --> 01:38:35,000 Speaker 1: getting rid of it because they said that this sort 2011 01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:37,240 Speaker 1: of malware is getting less and less on Chrome, which 2012 01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:40,600 Speaker 1: I don't believe. But okay, if you go into menu 2013 01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:46,200 Speaker 1: and then settings and then reset and it says reset, boom, 2014 01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:49,439 Speaker 1: it will reset all of your values back to zero. 2015 01:38:49,960 --> 01:38:52,439 Speaker 1: It will get rid of all any malware that you 2016 01:38:52,520 --> 01:38:55,040 Speaker 1: have on your device. It will try to clear that out. 2017 01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:58,400 Speaker 1: I would also uninstall any extensions that you have on 2018 01:38:58,479 --> 01:39:01,240 Speaker 1: there get rid of those, or if you don't want 2019 01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:03,799 Speaker 1: to do that, like Jefferson said, you can just uninstall 2020 01:39:03,840 --> 01:39:06,640 Speaker 1: the program reinstall it. But I would do all the 2021 01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:09,160 Speaker 1: software updates as well, So if your Windows is not 2022 01:39:09,240 --> 01:39:11,240 Speaker 1: up to date, I would do that. You might have 2023 01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:13,599 Speaker 1: malware at large on your computer. So if you want 2024 01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:16,080 Speaker 1: to run like something like malware bites, do you have 2025 01:39:16,120 --> 01:39:18,519 Speaker 1: a preferred program that you like to run for malware 2026 01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:20,360 Speaker 1: on Max. 2027 01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:22,200 Speaker 2: We don't tend to have problems with malware. 2028 01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:24,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that's but there are ways. 2029 01:39:25,080 --> 01:39:27,439 Speaker 1: On Mac you can use something like app cleaner to 2030 01:39:27,479 --> 01:39:30,000 Speaker 1: get rid of any fragments of programs or things that 2031 01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:32,040 Speaker 1: you may not want on there if you're trying to uninstall. 2032 01:39:32,479 --> 01:39:35,559 Speaker 3: But that's what I would do. I like Edged. 2033 01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:38,200 Speaker 1: I think it works nicely, but I don't like it 2034 01:39:38,240 --> 01:39:41,719 Speaker 1: more than Chrome. I think Chrome just recently got faster. 2035 01:39:42,240 --> 01:39:45,360 Speaker 1: They just figured out how to optimize the memory for 2036 01:39:45,439 --> 01:39:48,200 Speaker 1: the different tabs you have open. They just figured out 2037 01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:50,640 Speaker 1: how to do the energy savings on it. So I 2038 01:39:50,680 --> 01:39:55,479 Speaker 1: think Chrome is still pretty good for a free web browser, 2039 01:39:55,720 --> 01:39:57,960 Speaker 1: and I think it's secure, it's safe, it has all 2040 01:39:58,000 --> 01:40:00,680 Speaker 1: the programs you need and you mentioned that you want 2041 01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:03,439 Speaker 1: to keep your Google integrations, and Chrome is still the 2042 01:40:03,479 --> 01:40:08,320 Speaker 1: best at when you're using Google products like Drive and Gmail. 2043 01:40:08,880 --> 01:40:12,519 Speaker 1: It's very good at all the making sure that all 2044 01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:15,160 Speaker 1: the features of those programs work in a good way. 2045 01:40:15,400 --> 01:40:18,760 Speaker 3: So, Austin, does that answer your question? You're going to 2046 01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:19,360 Speaker 3: stick with it? 2047 01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:21,439 Speaker 7: Yeah? 2048 01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:26,000 Speaker 6: I actually had in your mention of malware, so I 2049 01:40:26,080 --> 01:40:29,479 Speaker 6: actually have like a lifetime membership for malware bites. I 2050 01:40:29,520 --> 01:40:34,360 Speaker 6: also use Norton and the only extensions on Chrome is 2051 01:40:34,560 --> 01:40:38,599 Speaker 6: last Pass, and I think it's like Adobe pdf reader. Okay, 2052 01:40:38,640 --> 01:40:40,519 Speaker 6: do you still think Do you still think I could 2053 01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:42,720 Speaker 6: have like malware on you could? 2054 01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:45,040 Speaker 1: It sounds like something some of the settings. If you're 2055 01:40:45,080 --> 01:40:48,000 Speaker 1: opening up like a banking page and six pages are 2056 01:40:48,040 --> 01:40:51,400 Speaker 1: opening that are doing different things, that's typically a sign 2057 01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:55,200 Speaker 1: of malware. So I would also go through and erase 2058 01:40:55,360 --> 01:40:58,160 Speaker 1: all history. So I would go into the history and 2059 01:40:58,200 --> 01:41:01,840 Speaker 1: it's there's an option for to erase all of your 2060 01:41:01,920 --> 01:41:04,120 Speaker 1: history for for you know, forever and ever, so I 2061 01:41:04,120 --> 01:41:06,160 Speaker 1: would do that as well, just to make sure that 2062 01:41:06,200 --> 01:41:08,479 Speaker 1: you have nothing on there that's you know, cookie oriented, 2063 01:41:08,479 --> 01:41:11,439 Speaker 1: that's messing up things. I would also ditch last Pass, 2064 01:41:11,479 --> 01:41:15,120 Speaker 1: honestly because at this point, they've had too many security issues. 2065 01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:16,880 Speaker 1: You might want to look into switching to a different 2066 01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:19,960 Speaker 1: password manager as well. So basically, Austin, you just have 2067 01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:26,240 Speaker 1: to change your entire, your entire operating operators right now. 2068 01:41:26,360 --> 01:41:28,800 Speaker 3: So it shouldn't be too tough, though. I think those 2069 01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:29,680 Speaker 3: are the things you want to do. 2070 01:41:29,960 --> 01:41:31,720 Speaker 1: All right, let me know if that works for you 2071 01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:34,080 Speaker 1: with the reset on Chrome before it goes away. Okay, 2072 01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:36,800 Speaker 1: all right, I think it's gonna work. Thanks for calling 2073 01:41:36,840 --> 01:41:38,519 Speaker 1: from San Diego. Is it raining down there like it 2074 01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:39,080 Speaker 1: is up here? 2075 01:41:40,040 --> 01:41:41,920 Speaker 6: It's it's on and off. 2076 01:41:42,160 --> 01:41:45,320 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, we'll stay dry, all right, thank you? 2077 01:41:45,360 --> 01:41:48,000 Speaker 1: All right, all right, let's see do we have time 2078 01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:51,599 Speaker 1: to talk about this Apple Classical. They have new Apple 2079 01:41:51,680 --> 01:41:57,080 Speaker 1: Music Classical app. Jefferson, Why is Apple making a new app? 2080 01:41:57,400 --> 01:42:02,320 Speaker 1: Standalone app designed specifically for classical music? Five million tracks 2081 01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:07,080 Speaker 1: from new releases to celebrated masterpieces, thousands of exclusive albums, 2082 01:42:07,080 --> 01:42:09,479 Speaker 1: the highest audio quality up to one hundred and ninety two. 2083 01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:13,160 Speaker 3: Killer hurts, per Killer hurts? Is that what you say? 2084 01:42:13,280 --> 01:42:13,599 Speaker 2: Sure? 2085 01:42:13,720 --> 01:42:14,160 Speaker 3: I guess. 2086 01:42:14,920 --> 01:42:18,040 Speaker 1: It will launch on March twenty eighth, requires an Apple 2087 01:42:18,120 --> 01:42:22,000 Speaker 1: Music subscription. It'll be available everywhere except China. Japan, Korea 2088 01:42:22,040 --> 01:42:27,880 Speaker 1: and Taiwan and uh Android version is coming soon. And 2089 01:42:27,960 --> 01:42:30,320 Speaker 1: to listen to music on Apple Music Classical you must 2090 01:42:30,360 --> 01:42:31,280 Speaker 1: have an Internet connection. 2091 01:42:31,400 --> 01:42:33,840 Speaker 3: That's odd. You can't download the music. So why are 2092 01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:35,519 Speaker 3: they doing this? I don't understand. Why wouldn't they just 2093 01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:36,920 Speaker 3: put this in the Apple Music app. 2094 01:42:37,000 --> 01:42:39,360 Speaker 2: Believe you need an Internet connection to listen to Apple 2095 01:42:39,439 --> 01:42:40,200 Speaker 2: Music as well. 2096 01:42:40,200 --> 01:42:42,400 Speaker 3: You can download the music, yeah, but you have to start. 2097 01:42:42,479 --> 01:42:45,360 Speaker 3: I know that's why. But why would they say that specifically? 2098 01:42:45,400 --> 01:42:47,360 Speaker 1: Like I get that you need an internet connection to Like, 2099 01:42:47,439 --> 01:42:50,080 Speaker 1: it doesn't come with five million songs you just download, right. 2100 01:42:50,439 --> 01:42:53,880 Speaker 2: I think they're very smart to do this. I know 2101 01:42:53,920 --> 01:42:57,320 Speaker 2: you disagree, but I think it's a very very smart move. Now, 2102 01:42:57,360 --> 01:43:01,200 Speaker 2: first of all, remember they bought this classical scription service already, 2103 01:43:01,439 --> 01:43:03,200 Speaker 2: so they already own it, so they're just putting their 2104 01:43:03,240 --> 01:43:06,800 Speaker 2: name on it. So Spotify is spotty when it comes 2105 01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:09,080 Speaker 2: to classical music. They've got some stuff they don't have 2106 01:43:09,120 --> 01:43:13,040 Speaker 2: other stuff. YouTube music is spotty. Classical music fans go 2107 01:43:13,080 --> 01:43:16,439 Speaker 2: downtown sometime, go stand at Disney Hall. You will see 2108 01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:21,080 Speaker 2: some very dedicated classical music lovers. They are really you know, 2109 01:43:21,560 --> 01:43:24,560 Speaker 2: but you know, if the grateful dead fans were enthusiastic. 2110 01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:28,920 Speaker 2: Classical music fans are incredibly enthusiastic, right, So by targeting 2111 01:43:29,120 --> 01:43:33,799 Speaker 2: this audience, they finally have a differentiation for Apple Music. 2112 01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:36,240 Speaker 2: It's different from Spotify. Now they have music that the 2113 01:43:36,320 --> 01:43:38,840 Speaker 2: other people don't have. They've never had that before. But 2114 01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:40,040 Speaker 2: you have to download a separate app. 2115 01:43:40,080 --> 01:43:40,400 Speaker 3: I don't know. 2116 01:43:40,439 --> 01:43:42,479 Speaker 1: I just don't I get it that they have people 2117 01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:45,960 Speaker 1: that are very into this. I don't understand why they 2118 01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:48,040 Speaker 1: couldn't just blend it into Apple Music and make it 2119 01:43:48,040 --> 01:43:50,160 Speaker 1: a separate area of the app. But to have a 2120 01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:53,599 Speaker 1: different app. Maybe if you're into classical, you feel like 2121 01:43:53,640 --> 01:43:54,800 Speaker 1: they are speaking to you. 2122 01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:57,000 Speaker 2: Do you remember in a more direct way? Do you 2123 01:43:57,000 --> 01:44:00,640 Speaker 2: remember once upon a time Tower Records. Yes, there were 2124 01:44:00,640 --> 01:44:03,400 Speaker 2: a big, huge, biggest record store and they had a 2125 01:44:03,439 --> 01:44:06,080 Speaker 2: separate classical store across the street. Do you remember that. 2126 01:44:06,160 --> 01:44:08,559 Speaker 1: I do not remember the classical store, but at store. 2127 01:44:09,000 --> 01:44:10,800 Speaker 1: All right, we've got less than a minute. Tell folks 2128 01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:11,360 Speaker 1: where they can. 2129 01:44:11,280 --> 01:44:14,920 Speaker 2: Find you, photowokstv dot com, Jefferson Graham dot net, look 2130 01:44:14,960 --> 01:44:17,760 Speaker 2: for me on YouTube, YouTube dot com, slash Photo, Walks TV. 2131 01:44:18,040 --> 01:44:22,439 Speaker 2: Our latest episode just debut today from Clearwater, Florida, and 2132 01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:27,160 Speaker 2: I'm working on an episode, thanking viewers for helping me 2133 01:44:27,240 --> 01:44:29,920 Speaker 2: cross one million views, which happened this week. 2134 01:44:30,080 --> 01:44:32,720 Speaker 1: Amazing, I see I need the little congrats. All right, 2135 01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:34,679 Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining me in the studio today. 2136 01:44:34,720 --> 01:44:37,479 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. We had some fun here with the callers. 2137 01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:40,160 Speaker 1: We're going to wrap up the show coming up next. 2138 01:44:40,760 --> 01:44:42,720 Speaker 1: More of your calls if I can fit one more 2139 01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:45,040 Speaker 1: in at triple eight Rich one O one. That's eight 2140 01:44:45,080 --> 01:44:48,320 Speaker 1: eight eight seven four to two, four to one zero one. 2141 01:44:48,360 --> 01:44:53,920 Speaker 1: You are listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to 2142 01:44:54,360 --> 01:44:59,720 Speaker 1: rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here talking technology online. 2143 01:45:00,479 --> 01:45:01,519 Speaker 3: Rich on Tech. 2144 01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:04,080 Speaker 1: That's all of my social media is under that so 2145 01:45:04,120 --> 01:45:06,720 Speaker 1: if you want to find me online, that's where you 2146 01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:10,200 Speaker 1: can do it. Tony is in Daytona Beach, Florida. Tony, 2147 01:45:10,240 --> 01:45:15,959 Speaker 1: you're on with Rich. Hey, Rich's great. 2148 01:45:16,240 --> 01:45:17,120 Speaker 3: What can I help you with? 2149 01:45:18,280 --> 01:45:24,559 Speaker 4: Okay? I write copies sometimes for a radio talk show 2150 01:45:25,120 --> 01:45:30,320 Speaker 4: like uh, you guys should do sure and uh sometimes 2151 01:45:30,360 --> 01:45:35,400 Speaker 4: they run. It's like writing a long letter and I'm 2152 01:45:35,439 --> 01:45:41,680 Speaker 4: looking for the best format, in the easiest format to 2153 01:45:42,320 --> 01:45:47,960 Speaker 4: write a letter like that and easy to control, like 2154 01:45:48,280 --> 01:45:54,680 Speaker 4: h Yahoo or Google or your Facebook or what's what 2155 01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:59,680 Speaker 4: site I should go to Okay, it's the best email format. 2156 01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:04,280 Speaker 1: Like that email. Oh email program? Okay, got it? Okay, email. Well, 2157 01:46:04,320 --> 01:46:06,920 Speaker 1: I mean I think that, uh Google, I use Google 2158 01:46:06,960 --> 01:46:10,920 Speaker 1: Docs for everything. I use Gmail for everything, and I 2159 01:46:10,960 --> 01:46:13,719 Speaker 1: would say those are probably your best combination. I also 2160 01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:16,240 Speaker 1: wrote a book, and I wrote the entire book in 2161 01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:20,519 Speaker 1: a combination of Apple Notes and then Google Docs, so 2162 01:46:20,840 --> 01:46:23,439 Speaker 1: I've written large amounts of text. I do the entire 2163 01:46:23,479 --> 01:46:27,519 Speaker 1: planning of this show on Google Docs and also through 2164 01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:30,800 Speaker 1: my email program as well, So I don't think you 2165 01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:31,960 Speaker 1: need anything special. 2166 01:46:32,000 --> 01:46:32,960 Speaker 3: Those are all free. 2167 01:46:33,720 --> 01:46:36,360 Speaker 1: And the one trick I would tell you with Google 2168 01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:39,439 Speaker 1: Docs is if you type in your once you sign 2169 01:46:39,560 --> 01:46:41,280 Speaker 1: up for g you know, Google, and have all your 2170 01:46:41,320 --> 01:46:43,240 Speaker 1: stuff figured out and you're logged in, if you type 2171 01:46:43,240 --> 01:46:47,880 Speaker 1: in doc dot new on your web browser, that will 2172 01:46:47,880 --> 01:46:50,160 Speaker 1: open up a new document. So if you're trying to 2173 01:46:50,200 --> 01:46:52,920 Speaker 1: just do something fast and quick and easy and you 2174 01:46:52,920 --> 01:46:54,600 Speaker 1: don't want to have to go through, just type in 2175 01:46:54,680 --> 01:46:56,920 Speaker 1: doct new and that will open up a fresh document 2176 01:46:56,960 --> 01:46:59,599 Speaker 1: for you on your on your web browser. So that's 2177 01:46:59,640 --> 01:47:02,120 Speaker 1: the way I do it. I organize everything through there. Now, 2178 01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:04,800 Speaker 1: when I wrote my book, I use a program to 2179 01:47:05,560 --> 01:47:09,600 Speaker 1: publish it. It was called Vellum v E L l 2180 01:47:09,800 --> 01:47:13,840 Speaker 1: U M. But that's really a book publishing app. And 2181 01:47:13,880 --> 01:47:17,160 Speaker 1: I also tested out another app. It was called I 2182 01:47:17,200 --> 01:47:20,880 Speaker 1: believe it was Scrivener, But it doesn't sound like you 2183 01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:24,960 Speaker 1: wanted to write a book. It sounds like you're just 2184 01:47:25,000 --> 01:47:27,679 Speaker 1: writing scripts and things like that. And with the scripts 2185 01:47:27,720 --> 01:47:29,760 Speaker 1: if you want, you know, I know, for radio and 2186 01:47:29,800 --> 01:47:33,120 Speaker 1: TV sometimes scripts need to fit a certain format. So 2187 01:47:33,240 --> 01:47:36,760 Speaker 1: in that case, I actually make a template of what 2188 01:47:36,840 --> 01:47:39,519 Speaker 1: a script typically looks like, which is two columns and 2189 01:47:39,560 --> 01:47:42,160 Speaker 1: one side is bigger than the other, and just large 2190 01:47:42,200 --> 01:47:44,200 Speaker 1: text on there as well, so you can do that too. 2191 01:47:44,760 --> 01:47:47,920 Speaker 1: The other program I really like for writing is called 2192 01:47:48,040 --> 01:47:51,240 Speaker 1: Bear B E A R. And what's great about this, 2193 01:47:51,439 --> 01:47:53,320 Speaker 1: and Tony, this may work for you since you're doing 2194 01:47:53,360 --> 01:47:56,120 Speaker 1: stuff that's for radio and you might need to time 2195 01:47:56,200 --> 01:47:58,240 Speaker 1: stuff out. What I love about Bear is that it 2196 01:47:58,360 --> 01:48:01,519 Speaker 1: times out what you write. So if you go into 2197 01:48:01,640 --> 01:48:04,080 Speaker 1: something that you wrote in Bear, there's a little icon 2198 01:48:04,560 --> 01:48:06,880 Speaker 1: and it tells you how many words, how many characters, 2199 01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:09,320 Speaker 1: how many paragraphs. But the best part is it tells 2200 01:48:09,360 --> 01:48:12,160 Speaker 1: you how long it takes to read that. And for me, 2201 01:48:12,360 --> 01:48:14,720 Speaker 1: that is very very handy when I'm writing things for 2202 01:48:14,800 --> 01:48:17,040 Speaker 1: this show when I want to hit a certain amount 2203 01:48:17,080 --> 01:48:19,400 Speaker 1: of time. In this case, I'm trying to hit a 2204 01:48:19,439 --> 01:48:23,280 Speaker 1: thirty second commercial. And so if I'm writing something that's 2205 01:48:23,280 --> 01:48:25,600 Speaker 1: a promotion for my show, I want to hit that 2206 01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:30,200 Speaker 1: twenty nine seconds. So Bear that is only available on iOS, 2207 01:48:30,320 --> 01:48:33,360 Speaker 1: So that is something that is on iOS and Mac only. 2208 01:48:33,400 --> 01:48:35,760 Speaker 1: They do not have a version that is available to 2209 01:48:36,479 --> 01:48:40,120 Speaker 1: the Windows platform. But that's a really handy program. I 2210 01:48:40,240 --> 01:48:42,400 Speaker 1: use a lot of programs actually to write stuff, now 2211 01:48:42,400 --> 01:48:43,439 Speaker 1: that I think about it. 2212 01:48:43,520 --> 01:48:44,599 Speaker 3: So I also use. 2213 01:48:46,280 --> 01:48:50,080 Speaker 1: Another app that is the Apple Notes app, but that's 2214 01:48:50,160 --> 01:48:51,439 Speaker 1: really just for more like notes. 2215 01:48:51,479 --> 01:48:52,599 Speaker 3: I also use Google Keep. 2216 01:48:52,600 --> 01:48:54,200 Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many ways you can do this 2217 01:48:54,720 --> 01:48:56,920 Speaker 1: that it really just comes down to what you use 2218 01:48:57,000 --> 01:48:59,400 Speaker 1: the most. And that's what I found is that you 2219 01:48:59,520 --> 01:49:01,880 Speaker 1: just have to use and keep using it and have 2220 01:49:01,960 --> 01:49:03,280 Speaker 1: your system down and that's the. 2221 01:49:03,200 --> 01:49:05,320 Speaker 3: Best way to do it. All right. 2222 01:49:06,040 --> 01:49:07,880 Speaker 1: Let me tell you about this scam real quick before 2223 01:49:07,880 --> 01:49:09,640 Speaker 1: we go, because I think it's important for you to 2224 01:49:09,680 --> 01:49:12,400 Speaker 1: know that we've heard so much about AI, but now 2225 01:49:12,439 --> 01:49:17,519 Speaker 1: scammers are already using AI to impersonate people that we 2226 01:49:17,640 --> 01:49:20,639 Speaker 1: know family members to call us and try to scam 2227 01:49:20,680 --> 01:49:23,600 Speaker 1: us out of money. So they have these very sophisticated 2228 01:49:23,640 --> 01:49:26,200 Speaker 1: programs that are off the shelf. You feed some audio 2229 01:49:26,280 --> 01:49:29,080 Speaker 1: into them, and now you can sound like that person 2230 01:49:29,200 --> 01:49:31,880 Speaker 1: just by typing out those words. And so this is 2231 01:49:32,080 --> 01:49:35,519 Speaker 1: AI that is being used in a very mean way 2232 01:49:35,880 --> 01:49:38,880 Speaker 1: against us. So if you get a phone call that 2233 01:49:38,920 --> 01:49:41,400 Speaker 1: purports to be from a loved one that needs money, 2234 01:49:41,439 --> 01:49:45,120 Speaker 1: that's in jail, that's whatever. It may just be an 2235 01:49:45,160 --> 01:49:48,120 Speaker 1: AI voice that sounds like that loved one. So when 2236 01:49:48,160 --> 01:49:52,360 Speaker 1: in doubt, call them up, call someone check on them, 2237 01:49:52,640 --> 01:49:54,920 Speaker 1: text them. Do not just go to the bank and 2238 01:49:54,960 --> 01:49:57,240 Speaker 1: try to withdraw money and send it to this person 2239 01:49:57,280 --> 01:49:59,640 Speaker 1: that's asking you for the money, because it's probably not 2240 01:50:00,160 --> 01:50:02,759 Speaker 1: I'll put the link to the Washington Post article about 2241 01:50:02,760 --> 01:50:07,000 Speaker 1: these new AI voice scams in the show notes as well. 2242 01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:11,400 Speaker 1: And finally, Vinyl overtook CD sales for the first time 2243 01:50:11,479 --> 01:50:15,040 Speaker 1: since nineteen eighty seven. I've been talking about Vinyl in 2244 01:50:15,120 --> 01:50:19,000 Speaker 1: my KTLA reports, how people seem to like it. Forty 2245 01:50:19,000 --> 01:50:22,360 Speaker 1: one million units they sold against thirty three million for 2246 01:50:22,439 --> 01:50:26,240 Speaker 1: CDs in the past year. Vinyl sales have increased over 2247 01:50:26,240 --> 01:50:29,360 Speaker 1: the past sixteen years. They're now seventy one percent of 2248 01:50:29,400 --> 01:50:33,519 Speaker 1: all physical music. Taylor Swift, of course, highest selling vinyl artists. 2249 01:50:33,560 --> 01:50:37,200 Speaker 1: She sold some one point seven million records. Harry Styles 2250 01:50:37,360 --> 01:50:41,080 Speaker 1: sold seven hundred and nineteen thousand, The Beatles still kicking 2251 01:50:41,240 --> 01:50:44,800 Speaker 1: five hundred and fifty three thousand sales. Of course, Spotify 2252 01:50:44,840 --> 01:50:48,200 Speaker 1: and Apple Music and streaming is still the most popular 2253 01:50:48,240 --> 01:50:49,519 Speaker 1: way to listen to music. 2254 01:50:50,120 --> 01:50:52,439 Speaker 3: All right, that is going to do it for this show. 2255 01:50:52,600 --> 01:50:55,360 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for listening. Thanks to all of my 2256 01:50:55,479 --> 01:50:57,559 Speaker 1: guests today. We had so many great guests. I know 2257 01:50:57,600 --> 01:51:00,720 Speaker 1: there's a little problem with the phone lines, so apologies 2258 01:51:00,760 --> 01:51:02,960 Speaker 1: for that, and thanks for working through that. You know, 2259 01:51:03,000 --> 01:51:05,479 Speaker 1: this is a growing show. This is only episode number ten, 2260 01:51:05,840 --> 01:51:07,880 Speaker 1: so we're still learning. I'm still learning how to do 2261 01:51:07,920 --> 01:51:11,120 Speaker 1: this whole radio thing, so I do appreciate you hanging 2262 01:51:11,120 --> 01:51:13,920 Speaker 1: out with me. Next week, we are going to talk 2263 01:51:14,280 --> 01:51:18,280 Speaker 1: to Ember about their self heating baby bottle. No longer 2264 01:51:18,720 --> 01:51:21,080 Speaker 1: is it good to be born with a silver spoon 2265 01:51:21,120 --> 01:51:23,360 Speaker 1: in your mouth. Now you can be born with a 2266 01:51:23,479 --> 01:51:26,360 Speaker 1: four hundred dollars self heating baby bottle in your mouth, 2267 01:51:26,600 --> 01:51:28,280 Speaker 1: and we're going to talk to the company that makes that. 2268 01:51:29,000 --> 01:51:31,160 Speaker 1: You can find me on social media at rich on tech, 2269 01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:34,679 Speaker 1: my website, richontech dot tv. My name is rich Dmiro. 2270 01:51:34,840 --> 01:51:36,719 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for listening. There are so many ways 2271 01:51:36,760 --> 01:51:38,880 Speaker 1: you can spend your time. I do appreciate you spending 2272 01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:41,200 Speaker 1: it right here with me. I'll talk to you real 2273 01:51:41,280 --> 01:51:41,479 Speaker 1: soon