1 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: God bless football, Mike yea God. 2 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: Blessed football, Mike Golick Junior, God bless football, Taylor, Oh, 3 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 2: God blessed football. You guys, you made his day. 4 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 3: You could have ruined his day. 5 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: I would have preferred that, but you made his day 6 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: just by saying his name. 7 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 2: Mike Golic Junior. Hey, listen, I do what I can. 8 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 2: I skipped the last name because I knew I was 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 2: gonna butcher the pronunciation, even though I've known Taylor for 10 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: god knows how long. At this point, Nippolis, Did I 11 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 2: get it right? 12 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, nailed it first try. 13 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: Wow. I've been calling him TV for months, I mean 14 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 2: on a podcast. Go Figure. Yes, So I was. 15 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: I was panicked because normally your dad joins us on 16 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: Tuesdays that's when we're taping. 17 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 3: But he texted me today saying that he is lost 18 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 3: his voice and he. 19 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: Needs to save it for your show in the afternoon, 20 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: and in a panic, I texted Mikeya saying I need 21 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: a Goaldig today. 22 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: He reached out. 23 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: To you, so thank you for doing this, and I'm 24 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: concerned about your dad. 25 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: That's only because his mom didn't answer. I was just 26 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 2: gonna say I figured at end mom was next up 27 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: on the list. Here for Mikey A yes, yes, is 28 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 2: Dad okay? Though? Is he is? He? 29 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 4: Is? 30 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 2: He gonna be okay. He's doing okay. I heard him 31 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: on our show meeting. He sounds a lot better today, 32 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 2: but he is. He's the old school football player. He's 33 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 2: everything we love about my dad. And that extends into 34 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: broadcasting where much like in the NFL, how we talk 35 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: about now the concussion protocol on the sideline, you literally 36 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: have the team doctor take the helmet away from the player. 37 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 2: We had to take the helmet away from Dad yesterday. 38 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 2: It was too much for him. He was just gonna 39 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: go run himself into the ground, gonna wind up with 40 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: no voice, no throat, no anything. So we had to 41 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,559 Speaker 2: pull him back. But he's good now because your dad. 42 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: Listen, in a world where everyone is so unreliable, your 43 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: dad is the most reliable thing in my life. 44 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 3: Like he care like and he was up about not 45 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 3: doing this. 46 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: He's like, I can really do it if you want 47 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: me to power through it, and I'm like, no, save 48 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: it for your show, you know. 49 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: Oh. He was apologizing up and down to us, to 50 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 2: his producers on Monday, and he was supposed to call 51 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: the Monday night football game on Westwood One, and he's 52 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 2: apologizing to everyone for a thing that is not his fault, 53 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 2: which is quintessentially my dad still believing he should overcome it, 54 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 2: because again, peak athlete brain, believing you can control the 55 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: outcome and will yourself through everything. You're right. It is 56 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 2: one of the most admirable things about my dad. He 57 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: is as rock solid as any person there is. He 58 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: really is. We had Colin Russo on earlier. 59 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: It was you can imagine how much how much I 60 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: enjoyed having Christopherman. 61 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: Doug Russa's son on. 62 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: It was glorious. I felt like I was talking to 63 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: Chris and looking at Chris. 64 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 2: It's listen, I'm just glad you continue to surround yourself 65 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 2: with incredible NEPO Baby talent, like you are the pied 66 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 2: piper of NEPO Baby Stu Gotts. I look around, I 67 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 2: look up and see T Bob with you guys now 68 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 2: all the time. Who's awesome, Like T Bob and I 69 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: have bonded that over the years that were basically the 70 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 2: same person. T BOP's just kind of you know, the 71 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: Bayou version of that now, but it's it's a great group. 72 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: You've surrounded yourself with the people that were born on 73 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: third base. Yes, who else is in that group? Is there? Are? 74 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:12,839 Speaker 2: Are there other? 75 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 3: Who else is in that? You guys have like a 76 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 3: meeting every day? Who's in the meeting? 77 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? We when we log in for the NEPO baby meetings? 78 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: Who else do we have? No Eagle? You know? Chief 79 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: among them here? I mean he's grown out of it 80 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 2: a little bit now, but Joe Buck probably the leader 81 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: of the he comes out, he's got the silk robe. 82 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 2: It's like the SNL guys that have hosted seven times, Like, 83 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 2: that's Joe Buck at the helm of all that. So him, 84 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: Olivia Harlan in that mix as well, don't want to 85 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: forget her as an awesome job of that crew. 86 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask all three of you of that crew, 87 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: who has the most to live up to because I'm 88 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: not certain who it is, Like Mike Golick, Mike Olick 89 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: Senior is on my Mount Rushmore of sports radio host. Okay, 90 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: so you have a lot to live up to. I 91 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: feel like you've already done it though. Christopher mad Dog 92 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: russo Son certainly has a lot to live up to. 93 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: But I'm not certain if anyone has more to live 94 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: up to than Harlan's daughter, my God, Jesus, that is tough. 95 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: That's I mean, that's that's really tough. I do think 96 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 2: like there is something unique about the people who have 97 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 2: parents in play by play, because you're the voice of 98 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 2: a sport for some people, like the biggest moments in 99 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: that sport when they play it back. As someone who 100 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 2: does broadcasting, like in the color commentary role, yeah, you're 101 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 2: important for the game. But when people play the big 102 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 2: moments of a game back, they don't hear the color's voice. 103 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,239 Speaker 2: They hear the play by play announcer's voice. So Kevin, Harlan, 104 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 2: Iron Eagle, these are people that have authored some of 105 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 2: the most important moments of sports. That's a lot to 106 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 2: live up to. 107 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 3: Yes, uh, speaking of NEPO babies, Lane Kiffen Uh. 108 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: Also at the meetings, Yes shows up. 109 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: I only know parts of the story With Lane Kiffen 110 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: and Lsu, Mikey and Taylor, I've never seen them so 111 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: excited to share the remainder of the story, the. 112 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 3: Details I don't know about with me. 113 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: Are you familiar with all the details with Lane Kiffen 114 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: and Lsu, Mike Gulick. 115 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: I'm familiar with most of them, I think, but I'm 116 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 2: curious to hear mikey A and Taylor's lens of this. 117 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 3: Okay, so they want my live reaction here, So go ahead, Fellows. 118 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 4: So Stu, you know about the private plane that LSU 119 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 4: sent to pick up Kiffin's family show them around Baton Rouge. 120 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: Correct, Yes, that was moments after he said how much 121 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: he loves Oxford, Mississippi. 122 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, sure so since then, per the Athletic Ole miss 123 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 4: gave Lane Kiffen an ultimatum to decide if we'll be 124 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 4: leaving the program before the November twenty eighth eight Bowl. 125 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 2: That was our reaction. They're funny, that's cute. That's really cute. 126 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: Like Lane gets a shit. 127 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 5: What what leverage? What leverage does all miss have in this? 128 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 5: If you don't, we're gonna sit here and wait longer. 129 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 2: It's they're in a tough spot, man, like I they 130 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 2: really are well their leverages this season, Like all of 131 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 2: this in the backdrop of a season where they could 132 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 2: still very really win a national championship, right like are 133 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: in that perfect sweet spot that Lane himself described years 134 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 2: ago of being a team that is good enough to 135 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: be respected by the committee and in the top ten, 136 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 2: but also not gonna play in their conferences championship games. 137 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 2: And I have to worry about how it lost there 138 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 2: might affect you. He's found the sweet spot and has 139 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 2: a team that on any given day is capable of winning. 140 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: And so that's what I think. Ole misbelieves their leverage 141 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 2: is here, but I don't really know how much I 142 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 2: buy it. 143 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: Right the leverage you're thinking is Lane wants to stay 144 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: on and see this thing through. 145 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 2: That's the only piece of leverage they have. 146 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 4: What was the date again, Taylor November twenty eighth, the 147 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 4: egg Ball, and then Brett McMurphy added that if Lane 148 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 4: Kiffen doesn't meet the day headline to Gojo's point, ole 149 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 4: Miss would have to decide if they allow him to 150 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 4: coach in the playoffs. 151 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 2: They've decided. 152 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 3: I mean, like, Mike, do you think they've made that 153 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 3: decision already? 154 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: I I would hope not like I would hope this 155 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: is just posturing because my first thought goes to imagine 156 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 2: being a player on that team right now. And obviously 157 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 2: Lane hasn't come out and signed the extension everyone else 158 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: has had given the Like, I'm not going anywhere speech 159 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: that we've heard from a bunch of these guys talked 160 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 2: about how much he loves Old Miss, but it's not 161 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 2: been definitive, and for good reason. I'm sure him and 162 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 2: Jimmy Sexton have gone through how this is going to 163 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 2: go to try and maximize shareholder value in a way 164 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: that you know, I don't totally have a problem with. 165 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 2: But now you're a player on that team, and if 166 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 2: Ole Miss is really serious about this and sticks to 167 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 2: their guns, you're in the midst of again a season 168 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 2: where you have a real shot to win a national championship, 169 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 2: and the thought of having to do it without the 170 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: head coach that's been there all year long feels insane 171 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 2: and like we're forgetting all of those young people in 172 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 2: the middle of this process. Yeah, but for what why? 173 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 6: Why is this a decision that he has to make 174 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 6: right now, other than the fact that the university doesn't 175 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 6: want to be left hanging in the wind until the end, 176 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 6: Like you could just say, Hey, we really hope Lane 177 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 6: stays and we're gonna try and do everything we can 178 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 6: to keep him. 179 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 3: But we're gonna be the leverage they have, Mikey, That's 180 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 3: why we're gonna. 181 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 6: Give him some random ultimate No, this is ridiculous, this 182 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 6: is this is a joke. 183 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 7: This would make me want to leave, just because I'm like, oh, 184 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 7: you're not gonna tell me. 185 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 2: You're not going to make me do it. That is 186 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 2: the thing I kind of worry about, especially. I mean, listen, 187 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 2: we've already seen Lanne online kind of trolling after this. 188 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 2: He posted some verse on Twitter that's kind of germane 189 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 2: to the situation, and it's like, do you risk agitating him? 190 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: And if it were a coin flip right now, maybe 191 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 2: edging it towards him, hoping it's tails in the air 192 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 2: for LSU. I don't know, Like I can understand if 193 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: you are an ole Miss though who has enjoyed this 194 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 2: unprecedented era of success under Lane Kiffin, but where this 195 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 2: has kind of always been something hanging over your head, 196 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 2: and certainly in the midst of the successful season, we 197 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 2: haven't talked about oh Miss football nationally, and god knows 198 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: how long this has been the conversation, So I can 199 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 2: understand completely how frustrating that has to be and maybe 200 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: a desire to kind of go out on your own terms. 201 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 2: The old you can't fire me, I quit scenario but 202 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 2: it's still one that does feel like it's got a 203 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 2: low likelihood of success for them. 204 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 4: I think ultimatum is one of the best words in 205 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 4: the dictionary. 206 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 2: Hmmm, really. 207 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 3: Name second place? 208 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 2: Go ahead? Well, here's my thing. Is one of my 209 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 2: favorite words, and it comes up around this time every 210 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 2: year in the college football playoffs because we have the 211 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 2: final college football playoff ranking that comes out after conference 212 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 2: champion the weekend, and the one before that is the penultimate. 213 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 2: And I love the word penultimate, and so I'm wondering, 214 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 2: can there be a penultimatum because it sounds like the 215 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 2: next logical step. Even though I don't think that's a word, huh, 216 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 2: it sounds like it should be. I'm still waiting for 217 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 2: subernatorial Ooh, that's a great one. 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He really is. 255 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 2: I've gotten goojo. 256 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: If you're Lane Kiffin, though, you play that game, you 257 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: win that game, and you come into the office to 258 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 1: the next day as if there was no ultimatum, right, 259 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: I dare you to fire me. 260 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 2: Go ahead, You've got to. You've got to absolutely make 261 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 2: them escort you out of the building like a like 262 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 2: a complete hostile takeover. Make a scene of it, right 263 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 2: if and who would love that more than Lane Viby. 264 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 2: Nobody would be able to subsist off that, as would 265 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 2: the Sports Talk ecosystem for weeks. Yes, it's gonna be 266 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 2: hard for him. 267 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: I know he loves Mississippi, I know he loves what 268 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: he built there. But these jobs that are open, and 269 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: I'm including by the way the New York Giants. 270 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 2: And Jackson Dart, It's gonna be hard for. 271 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 3: Lane Kiffin to say no to one of these jobs, right, Yeah. 272 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 2: I I just couldn't see the Giants and like the 273 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 2: Maras going through that with Lane Kiffen knowing everything that 274 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 2: comes with that experience. But yeah, we've known since LSU 275 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 2: and Florida came open and what Lane has built at 276 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 2: ole Miss in this era where they've consistently been one 277 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 2: of the best teams in the transfer portal. Every year 278 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 2: they brought in impact players. It's been ten win seasons, 279 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 2: like they're going out of style. All of this reeks 280 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 2: of a place that Lane has shown you you can 281 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 2: win and be successful. But everyone kind of understands that 282 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 2: LSU and Florida, even with all of the shenanigans surrounding 283 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 2: the LSU job that we've seen between them trying to 284 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 2: go and recoup money from Brian Kelly in ways that 285 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 2: don't seem like they hold a ton of water. The 286 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 2: governor of the state talk about gubernatorial getting involved immediately 287 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 2: in press conferences surrounding this job. It's still a talent 288 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 2: rich area that by and large every coach that goes 289 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 2: there is won a national championship, and so that's hard 290 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 2: to turn down. 291 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 7: I'm just so excited. You just use gubernatorial but stude. 292 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 7: Shouldn't that be what Ole Miss is playing up is 293 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 7: the fact that he loves it here like shouldn't as 294 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 7: opposed to drawing a hard line. Shouldn't he be walking 295 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 7: into the office And there's like a picture. 296 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 2: Collage of him all the time he was at Old Miss, 297 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 2: you think and playing like boys to men. 298 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: He's got Lsu flying him around a private jets. Think 299 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: that's all you want. 300 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 7: You can't beat Lsu that way, so you have to 301 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 7: beat him with heartstrings. 302 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 2: You have to beat him a collage. You come in 303 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 2: and the collage is set to that song that they 304 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 2: used at the end of The Fast and the Furious. 305 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: He's been a yes, yes, you my friend. And you 306 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 2: just have all these pictures of when Lane first got 307 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 2: to Ole Miss and what you guys were. You have 308 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 2: testimonials from all the former ole Miss players who played 309 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 2: under Lane Kiffin guys that he's impacted. Tug at the heart, Mikey, 310 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 2: this is a good idea. They should be paying you, 311 00:14:53,880 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 2: somebody should He's he's he's such a good friend. 312 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: He supported you and an idea that involves moments and 313 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: memories and a collage. 314 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 2: This is college football, baby, you don't do stuff that 315 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 2: makes sensetious, pulls the heart strings. 316 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 7: Oo ooh, that's a good one. 317 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 2: You're on fire. I'm still wait n Taylors. 318 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: Oh God, James Franklin, Virginia Tech. I like that actually 319 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: for Virginia Tech. And I like it for James Franklin. 320 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: A guy who can build a program, did it a Vanderbilt, 321 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: did it at Penn State. 322 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 3: It's just once he builds it, he can't beat anyone it. 323 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 2: Uh. I think we see this across sports, right where 324 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 2: the context for everyone involved in the relationship matters, Like 325 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 2: Sterigott's the Knicks. Tom Thibodeau came over and what do 326 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 2: we know, Hey, they're gonna play their asses off, They're 327 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 2: gonna play awesome on defense, and by the end of 328 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 2: the year they're gonna be ground down to the point 329 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 2: where we're not sure they can get past that hump 330 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 2: without him and the Knicks. You know, again, not the 331 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 2: poster for great decision making, but saw what we've seen 332 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 2: in multiple stops along the way for him now, and 333 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 2: so if you're a program that needs to get back 334 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 2: to that point. Man, great coach for that, and that 335 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 2: does seem like in the conversation around big Game James Franklin, 336 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 2: in the conversation around Brian Kelly and some of the 337 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 2: big games that's happened, you forget that whatever program you 338 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 2: drop these coaches into right now, and the two of 339 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 2: those probably the best examples from this coaching cycle. We'll 340 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 2: see if Brian Kelly jumps back in it or not. 341 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 2: But for James Franklin, between what he did at Penn State, 342 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 2: what he did at Vanderbilt before that, this is someone 343 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 2: who for a program in Virginia Tech that's kind of 344 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 2: lost its way in a conference that we see right 345 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 2: now is chaotic at the end of the season and 346 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 2: feels maybe more winnable than some of the conferences that 347 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 2: are so bloated with new teams they've absorbed and the 348 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 2: big names and the dominant teams, like, there's reason to 349 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 2: believe you can find success and get back to it 350 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 2: quickly with what he does as a coach. 351 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 3: I have Brian Kelly coaching Mississippi in. 352 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 2: The playoff, Oh my god, it could happen. I can't believe. 353 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 2: I didn't see it. I can't believe I didn't see it, Stutts. 354 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 2: That's why the ultimatum is coming from inside the house. 355 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 2: It's Brian and Mike. 356 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 3: He wants to save it with a collage. 357 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 2: I can't wait to see Mikey needs to build the 358 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 2: collage and just like email it to Ole Miss like, hey, 359 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 2: I went ahead and did this for you. I put 360 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 2: my watermark in the corner. If you could just appreciate that, 361 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 2: God bless football, this can do it for you. I 362 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 2: do marvel at this fact. 363 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: The coach with the most job security in college football is. 364 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 3: Ryan day. 365 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: Man. 366 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: Think about where we were a year ago when he 367 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: lost the Michigan and now that guy, even if he 368 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: loses the Michigan again, I don't think anyone's gonna care. 369 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 2: Well, that was what I was just gonna ask, was 370 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to this year because having 371 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 2: watched both this shows, I just think it's too far apart. 372 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 2: But if it somehow happened, if it's just a mental 373 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 2: block at this point for the buck Eyes and for 374 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 2: some reason they see Mason Blue and everything goes sideways, 375 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 2: do you think Ohio State fans would all of a 376 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 2: sudden start, maybe heating up the seat again. Like I 377 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 2: genuinely don't know. That game means a lot to those 378 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 2: people I know too much. What are you? Yeah? God, 379 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 2: I mean could notre Dame. You could lose to USC 380 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 2: for the next twenty years if you gave me a 381 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 2: national championship in my lifetime, And I mean, we won't 382 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 2: get to play that game anymore because they don't want to. 383 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 4: But goojo, I think I think Ohio State has to 384 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 4: beat Michigan for their national championships to count in that season. 385 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 3: Ooh yehoha, I've taught them well God, I mean. 386 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 2: Really, I felt like I was staring at Stugatts there 387 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 2: for a second. Tailor. That's amazing, Yes, right, oh great, takee. 388 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 2: I wonder if we could institute that across college football, 389 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 2: where if you don't beat and you've got to like 390 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,959 Speaker 2: designate who you're like. For some people, it's obvious, right 391 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 2: you got the Iron Bowl, you've got the game, you've 392 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 2: got Army Navy. But for everyone, like Noame, we have 393 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 2: so many rivals you'd have to designate, like, is it 394 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 2: you know, probably USC if we ever played that game again? 395 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 2: Oh the deal breaker. So if you don't win that game. 396 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 2: The national championship, I want to say, doesn't count because 397 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 2: you still win the game. But at the very least asterisk, right, 398 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 2: maybe maybe a true asterisk the way people want it 399 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 2: for the bubble. 400 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: Yes, but it's an uneven playing field because not every 401 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: team has that kind of game, you know. 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If I'm going to argue on 466 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 2: behalf of Notre Dame, the College Football Playoff has always 467 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 2: been a combination of the best and most deserving like, 468 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 2: that's the formula of the committee's trying to use every year, 469 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 2: and they use strength of schedule, strength to resume, head 470 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 2: to head conference championships, all these different metrics when things 471 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 2: are close, but there is still the eye test element 472 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 2: to it, and right now that would be all right 473 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 2: if you're gonna make the argument for Notre Dame, it's yes, 474 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 2: Miami one head to head, and that has value. That 475 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 2: game was also the first game of the season, and 476 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 2: if you look, it's almost a completely different Notre Dame 477 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 2: team on both sides of the ball in terms of 478 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 2: the way they comport themselves. Like Notre Dame came into 479 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 2: that Miami game running a bunch of RPO stuff because 480 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 2: they didn't know their quarterback was good. They barely ran 481 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 2: the best running back in the country and Jeremiah Love. 482 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 2: And then after that game, once they realized, oh hey, 483 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 2: the quarterbacks got some shit to them, We're gonna pop 484 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 2: the training wheels off this thing and just run the 485 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 2: offense through him and through these running backs, it's been 486 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 2: completely different. Chris ash and the defense thought they were 487 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 2: going to be a four man rush zone defense to 488 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 2: start the year, and then three games in after Purdue 489 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 2: or right before Arkansas, they're like, oh wait, our defense 490 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 2: is really good at man coverage and firing missiles at 491 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 2: the quarterback with blitzers every other play or on critical downs, 492 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 2: and the rest is kind of in history. And now 493 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 2: it's looked like the team that won multiple playoff games 494 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 2: last year. So the argument for them is that best 495 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 2: argument that they're playing some of the best football in 496 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 2: the country right now, and that's a fact or in 497 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 2: what the committee is supposed to build, which is a 498 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 2: field that's simultaneously deserving and Notre Dame. You've got the 499 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 2: close loss to Miami, you've got a really close loss 500 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 2: to Texas A and m who continues to hold on 501 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 2: that undefeated record, and so you combine that with a 502 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 2: team that's playing good football, and that would be the 503 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 2: argument at this point. Even if I do understand Miami 504 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 2: fans being frustrated, and if the shoe is on the 505 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 2: other foot for me, I can't say that I wouldn't 506 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 2: be making a similar argument in the fact that head 507 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 2: to head is something that should matter in this sport, 508 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 2: but it's also a sport that's wildly inconsistent, and so 509 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 2: part of why people wanted to leave the BCS computers 510 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 2: behind was to institute some semblance of the eye test 511 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 2: being involved in this and ensuring that we get the 512 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 2: quote unquote best teams in the tournament as well as 513 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 2: teams that are deserving. 514 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 1: Who would you feel more confident taking Ohio State or 515 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: the field to win the national Championship? 516 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 2: I probably take the field. Like I think that college 517 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 2: football is at a point now where it's going to 518 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 2: be that way until further notice that there's you know, 519 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 2: Ohio State's an incredible de and offense that's got dynamic playmakers. 520 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 2: I think their offensive line is still a place where 521 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 2: you can probably if you're looking for one hole in 522 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 2: the iron heide of this team to maybe have success, 523 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 2: it could be you know, that group up front to 524 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 2: an extent. But I just think that around the rest 525 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 2: of the top ten, really you've got a bunch of 526 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 2: really good teams. Georgia had a big statement win this 527 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 2: past weekend against Texas where the defense looked pretty familiar 528 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 2: you know, Indiana, Texas, A and m Whove we talked about, like, 529 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 2: I do think that there's a lot of competition out 530 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 2: there and that the curve has flat and somewhe around 531 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 2: the sport Gojo. 532 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 4: When you look at the NFL, how many teams do 533 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 4: you feel like you could look at it and be like, Okay, 534 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 4: I know what I'm going to get from them week 535 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 4: to week basis, this team is pretty good. 536 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 2: This team is a super Bowl contender. Hoof, that's a 537 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 2: great question. Well, this team is pretty good and this 538 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 2: team is a super Bowl contender. Probably different questions, but 539 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 2: like different tiers, Yeah, different tiers. But if I'm going 540 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 2: like teams I feel like I can trust. I feel 541 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 2: I can trust the NFC West Sands, the Cardinals, like man, 542 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 2: the Rams and the Seahawks look like two of the 543 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 2: best teams in the sport. The Seahawks defense might be 544 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 2: the best defense in the NFL right now, able to 545 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 2: keep them in a game where Sam Darnold had four turnovers. 546 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 2: But even the forty nine ers like I have a 547 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 2: weird trust for just because of what Kyle Shanahan's managed 548 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 2: to overcome this year, Like the coaching chops were on 549 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 2: full display there when healthy. I would say I trust 550 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 2: the Buccaneers in the NFC South. I think in the 551 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 2: NFC North it's probably Chicago, Detroit and Green Bay. I'm 552 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 2: not sure if I'm there yet with the Vikings offense, 553 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy's still new enough to where that's obviously going 554 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 2: to be variable for them. 555 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 3: So you trust Caleb and Ben Jonson that much? You 556 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 3: trust them already? 557 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 2: Yeah? I do think I trust them to an extent. 558 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 2: Like I don't know if I trust the defense, Like 559 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 2: if we're talking Super Bowl contender, I would take them 560 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 2: out of that conversation. Yeah, right, but the defensive, Yeah, 561 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 2: trust especially, I mean the run game for them has 562 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 2: become really consistent under Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams. At 563 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 2: this point, there are still flaws to the game. Obviously 564 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 2: as a second year player, might he one of the 565 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 2: best quarterbacks in the NFL and mitigating sacks like just 566 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,360 Speaker 2: getting out of obvious situations where you know, we saw 567 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 2: it with Jared Goff against the Eagles, Like Jared Goff 568 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 2: is so pressure a verse at this point and I 569 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 2: thought did a much better job of that last year. 570 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 2: But you combine the cold and elements with an Eagles 571 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 2: defense that was in his face and the guy just 572 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 2: folded the minute there was someone around him. So what 573 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 2: Caleb Williams does in contrast to that is pretty remarkable. 574 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 2: What did you think, what'd you think of that, Mikey, No, 575 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 2: Taylor is laughing because you just said something. And Taylor 576 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 2: remembered that early in the season, I said Caleb Williams 577 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 2: was one of the best at avoiding sacks. 578 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 7: And they laughed at me. They go, he gets sacked 579 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 7: more than anyone. They put it on the pole. I 580 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 7: got crushed. And hear you say it, and everybody agrees. 581 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 7: Everybody's like, oh well, Mike Coulock Junior said it, it must 582 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 7: be true. 583 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 3: But when I said, I mean, is you. 584 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 2: Don't even know my last name? Be fair? 585 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 3: He guts it's a I mean be fair. 586 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 4: He got sacks sixty eight times in twenty twenty four. 587 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 2: He did, I mean, I'm looking now, Caleb Williams has 588 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 2: been sacked. He's been Caleb Williams been sacked six times 589 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 2: sixteen times so far this season, bottom ten in the NFL, 590 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 2: so of the like least allowed. Sam Darnold has only 591 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 2: been sacked ten times. And I mean, listen, like that's 592 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 2: sometimes it's a double edged sword, right, Like he's gonna 593 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 2: get you out of a lot of trouble, he could 594 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 2: also get you into trouble. That's some of the drake 595 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 2: may of it. Too. It. Drake May has been sacked 596 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 2: the second most times in the NFL this season. He's 597 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 2: playing MVP caliber football. 598 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 3: Yep, we created something earlier this morning. I think you'll 599 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 3: like this. 600 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 2: Okay. It's called the NFL Cup. 601 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 1: Because I made an argument that the teams I could 602 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: create a more interesting and better top six teams who 603 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: currently aren't in the playoffs that I could with the 604 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: top six teams who are in the playoffs. Okay, so 605 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: just follow me here right now. In the AFC, the 606 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: top three seeds are the Broncos, Patriots, and Colts. 607 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 2: We all picked that ridiculous. 608 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: The top three teams in the AFC who currently aren't 609 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: in the playoffs Chiefs, Ravens, Texans. 610 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 2: Okay. 611 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 3: In the NFC it's Eagles, Rams, Bears. 612 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: And if I take the three teams who aren't in 613 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:14,239 Speaker 1: the playoffs right now, Lions, Panthers, and Cowboys, can you 614 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: imagine having a Lions Chiefs Super Bowl? 615 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 2: Wow? So wait? Your idea is to take the teams 616 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 2: outside the playoffs. Yes, and that puts them in their 617 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 2: oh and put them in their own playoffs. 618 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, the NFL Cup. Yeah, yes, the NFL. 619 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 2: I see I And this is my brain my brain's 620 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 2: second and second to process, because I thought you were 621 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 2: trying to do like the NBA play in where now 622 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 2: you'd open it up and those teams would have to 623 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 2: go play to just get the opportunity to play on 624 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 2: wildcard weekend. 625 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: No, listen, we haven't. Uh, we haven't fully flushed out 626 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: the idea yet. We just think it's a good one. 627 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: We don't know what the winner actually gets. We have 628 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: flirted with the idea of the winner getting an automatic playoff. 629 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 2: Bid the next season. 630 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: The winner of the of the nf FL Cup has 631 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: to play the super Bowl winner for the real Super Bowl. 632 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 3: We okay, many, but we haven't. We haven't figured that 633 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 3: part yet. 634 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 2: We just have a base idea here. I do like 635 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 2: the idea that you're trying to reverse engineer the pre 636 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 2: merger AFL NFL Super Bowl. 637 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: I'm trying to give us a better matchup. No one 638 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: wants to see Broncos and Bears. I mean, but if 639 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: you give me Cowboys and Ravens, holy shit, that is 640 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: going to break record ratings. 641 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 2: But I mean, Mike, seriously, nobody wants to see the 642 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 2: Cowboys play their Christy I mean, America does, I mean, 643 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 2: I don't know about this year, Like, you know, it 644 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 2: has to be the Lions or else this idea is 645 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 2: ship You're right, yes it does. It's the Lions, are you? 646 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 2: The AFC side is a little more interesting there because 647 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 2: like Baltimore, Kansas City, like Houston, I can at least 648 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 2: point to things that they do incredibly well. Dallas, like, yeah, 649 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 2: the offense occasionally, and last night the pass rus looked better. 650 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 2: But that's the Raiders. 651 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: That's I would find it hard to believe the Lions 652 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: don't make it to the to the Cup final. 653 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 3: I mean it's a home game. 654 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: They're a home game against the Panthers of the Cowboys 655 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: away from making it. 656 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 2: As long as they're at home, they're fine, Mike, Mike. 657 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 8: Right now, in the AFC, you're opening your wild Card 658 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 8: weekend matchups are Patriots, Jaguars, Yawn, Colts, Chargers, I don't 659 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,959 Speaker 8: know what either of those teams are, and Steelers for 660 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 8: some reason, and Bills. But I could give you Kansas City, Detroit, Baltimore, Dallas, 661 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 8: Carolina and Houston. 662 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 2: Which one Which of those? Are you watching? Wildcard Weekend? Wow? 663 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 2: Say the NFL Cup it's here, Gojo. This in the 664 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 2: collage too is over Gojo. 665 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 4: You graduated with honors from the Stugotts School fraudcasting. If 666 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 4: Jared Goff came out and put NFL Cup Champion on 667 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 4: his resume, nobody would be more mad at that than 668 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 4: Stu Gotts himself. 669 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 2: Yes, this is where he boxes me in. Yeah, he's 670 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 2: got you the super Bowl. You're looking at the Wikipedia 671 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 2: page and you see NFL Cup Champion and the bio, 672 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 2: just like, what are we doing here? That's one hundred 673 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 2: percent year. Wow, Taylor really is He is both He 674 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 2: is both the new Stu Gotts but also levitating outside 675 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 2: of himself. And see he's achieved Stu Gott's nirvana. Yes, 676 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 2: that's what Taylor's achieved. It's terrifying. You stared into the 677 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 2: reactor core at Stu Gott's Chernobyl for long enough to 678 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 2: achieve enlightenment. 679 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: Put it on the pole as Tyler ree Stecott's nirvana. 680 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: Sana Gojo. 681 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 4: I could also give you a take for your show 682 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 4: that you could steal for your show later. 683 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 2: Please here he goes. 684 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 4: Jamar Chase gets one game suspension for spitting. He should 685 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 4: get another one for Lyne. 686 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 2: Wow. 687 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, see he should have gotten two games in the 688 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: first place for the spinning. 689 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 2: It was a lot of spit. That is true. If 690 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 2: we measured by volume of spit how long you should 691 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 2: be suspended for, then yes, this absolutely more into two 692 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 2: game suspension. But I like Taylor's idea here too because 693 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 2: that's an extremely college football way to legislate this. Because 694 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 2: in college football we see all the time when teams 695 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 2: are under penalty for different things, recruiting violations or what 696 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 2: have you. The NCAA can also ding them when they 697 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 2: don't cooperate, like failure to cooperate in those instances. So 698 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 2: would Jamar Chase. Failure to cooperate here could get you 699 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 2: another game. That's again I like Meldon college football with 700 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 2: the NFL. The NFL very cut and dry, very stingent. 701 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 2: Everything makes sense. We got to introduce a little more 702 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 2: stupid into this conversation with them, and this is exactly 703 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 2: what it needs. NFL Cup, I mean cup, you Dad. 704 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 2: I can't think of anything my dad would hate more 705 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 2: than the idea of the NFL Cup. He wouldn't even 706 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 2: entertain the explanation for it. He would get confused three 707 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 2: words in and tell you you're an idiot. It's a 708 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 2: loser's bracket. Your dad for that. 709 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 3: Golick and Golic check him. 710 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 2: Out every afternoon fan Duel Sports Network. 711 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 3: Thank you for doing this today. 712 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 2: Hopefully Dad feels better. 713 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 3: We'll get we'll get a double helping of Golic this week. 714 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 2: We'll have your dad on tomorrow. I told him so. 715 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 2: There we go, just a time for Thanksgiving. More helpings. 716 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: Yes, and you can take the Brian Glly coaching Mississippi 717 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:19,879 Speaker 1: and in the playoffs as well. 718 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 2: George, I have it. I'm leaving with gifts. Thanks guys,