1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to the Monday edition of Fair Territory. I'm 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal. Interesting weekend for a couple of reasons. Well, 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: one because we saw two teams in the NL West 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: not acting like they're conceding to the Dodgers, acting like 5 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: they're actually trying. And these are two teams I'm talking about, 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: the San Diego Padres and Arizona Diamondbacks that generally do try, 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: at least in recent times, the last four or five 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: years or so, maybe Arizona going back even further. Their 9 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: owner Ken Kendrick has repeatedly shown in interest in raising 10 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: payroll when he deems it necessary, and the Padres, starting 11 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: under their late owner Peter Sidler, have also been aggressive. 12 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: But let's start with the Padres because they're in a 13 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: little bit of a different situation now with the team 14 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: for sale, with new ownership coming in and the current 15 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: ownership not spending the way the previous owner Peter Sidler did, 16 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: and the Padres under general manager Aj Preller, were in 17 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: something of a financial bind the entire offseason. They signed 18 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: Michael Kinging to a three years, seventy five million dollar 19 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: free agent contract. This is after losing Dylan Cease after 20 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: losing you Darvish to injury. They knew that their rotation 21 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: was thin, and then in a twenty four hour or 22 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: so period over the weekend starting Friday, kind of going 23 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: into Saturday, they signed Nick Castillanos to a deal that 24 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: will pay him only the minimum salary. At least from 25 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: the Padres perspective, the Phillies will pick up the rest. 26 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: And then they added Griffin Canning and they added Hermann Marquez, 27 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: two accomplished pitchers at times in their careers. Marquez, of course, 28 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: from twenty seventeen to twenty one, was really good for 29 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: the Colorado Rockies. So where did the Padres stand. I'm 30 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: not sure exactly. I don't know if they're going to 31 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: be quite as good because even with the additions of 32 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: Miguel Andrew Harr and now Castillanos, their offense that should 33 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: be okay. I don't have a much of a problem 34 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: with the offense and where it's going to be. I 35 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: do still worry about the pitching. We've got Joe Musgrove 36 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: coming off Tommy John surgery. This will be his first 37 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: year back. We've got Griffin Canning coming off on a 38 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: ruptured achilles tendon. He had surgery We don't know if 39 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: he'll be ready for opening day. Herman, as I said, 40 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: has not been good since twenty one. Last year was 41 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: his first year back from Tommy John. His stuff was diminished. 42 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: Tristan McKenzie, they picked him up on a minor league deal. 43 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 1: He was dfa'd by the Guardians last year. And Marco 44 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: Gonzalez did not pitch last season after undergoing flexers tendon 45 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: surgery at the end of twenty twenty four. So let's 46 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: take a look at their additions and their subtractions and 47 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: we can kind of gauge where the padres are right now. 48 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: It's an interesting series of moves, no question about it. 49 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: As I said, they resigned Michael King. You can see 50 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: their additions right there, and you can see who they lost. 51 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: They lost some pretty big pieces. Dylan Cees, Robert Suarez. 52 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: They'll still have a terrific bullpen without him, Luisa Rayes, 53 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: Ryan O'Hearn, who was good after they acquired him at 54 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: the deadline, Elios Diaz and Tyler. Now, the interesting part 55 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: of the Castianas edition is, of course, what happened at 56 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: the end of his tenure in Philadelphia. It was not pretty, 57 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: and it was not pretty going back to that incident 58 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: in Miami when he brought a beer into the dugout 59 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: and of course had words with manager Rob Thompson. That 60 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: lingered the entire season. It festered the entire season. His 61 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: teammates turned on him, the coaches turned on him, and 62 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: ultimately the front office turned on him. He gets a 63 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: new start. And the one thing about the Padres, they 64 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: are a team that welcomes any and all into their clubhouse. 65 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: They are a team of players with different personalities, and 66 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: they have always encouraged their players, for better and at 67 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,279 Speaker 1: times for worse, to display their personalities, to be themselves. 68 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: So I would expect that Castianas would be a good 69 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: addition for the Padres in terms of the clubhouse. I 70 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: don't know that that's going to be a problem. What 71 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: is a question is whether he is again going to hit. 72 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: Below average offensive player last year, never a good defender. 73 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,119 Speaker 1: So that's the question I have with casting on us. 74 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: I like Andrew har he is going to hit, but 75 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: the Padres much different mix. They have a lot of 76 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: options in the rotation. They don't need to hit on 77 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: all of them. If one of two of those guys 78 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: that I mentioned pitches, well, they should be in decent shape. Remember, 79 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: they've got King Pavetta and Musgrove at the top of 80 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: the rotation. Randy Vasquez proved a decent back of the 81 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: rotation option last year. So here they go trying to 82 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: do what they can in the NL West. And as 83 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: I mentioned at the top of the show, the Arizona 84 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: Diamondbacks are also trying to do what they can in 85 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: the NL West. They were the fallback position for one 86 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: of their own, Zach Gollan, who was a free agent, 87 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: rejected a qualifying offer from the Diamondbacks and then signed 88 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: back with the Diamondbacks when he couldn't get the multi 89 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: year deal he wanted. Took the qualifying offer in terms 90 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: of guaranteed money twenty two point zero two to five million, 91 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: but because some of that has deferred, the present value 92 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: is about eighteen point seven million, so he actually got 93 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: less than he turned down. Not a great outcome for Gallon, 94 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: but for the Diamondbacks it's a really good outcome because 95 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: they have in their rotation right now. They have, of 96 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: course Gallon, they have at the top of the rotation 97 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: as well, Merrill Kelly. He'll be their opening day starter. 98 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: Brendan fought Edward Rodriguez and Ryan Nelson, as well as 99 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: Michael Soroka, who they re signed as a free agent 100 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, signed as a free agent back in December. 101 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 1: I believe it was He can now supplement the bullpen 102 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: if that is the route they choose to go with him, 103 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: if they stay healthy through spring training. As I wrote 104 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: in The Athletic on Sunday, he has incentives in both 105 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: starting and relief appearances, so he can go either way 106 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: and still earn more money than the seven point five 107 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: million he was offered. The Diamondbacks also have the strong 108 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: possibility of three important pitchers returning from Tommy John surgery 109 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: sometime this season. I'm talking, of course, about Corbyn Burns 110 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,799 Speaker 1: and about the two relievers, Justin Martinez and AJ Puck. 111 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 1: They're gonna be okay, I would think from a pitching perspective, 112 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: especially now with the return of Gallon on top of 113 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: the return of Kelly, the question probably will be more offensive. 114 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: And they've signed Noan Arnatto actually they traded for him, 115 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: signed for first base Carlos Santana. They have some questions 116 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: still about what exactly is going to be, especially without 117 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: Corby and Carroll to start their season with their offense. 118 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: But the Diamondbacks two like the Padres, as I mentioned earlier, 119 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: they're trying and that's what you want to see from 120 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: your teams, even the teams that aren't as wealthy as 121 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: the Dodgers. And you saw the interesting comments from Bryce 122 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: Harper and Manny Machado on Sunday about the Dodgers. Both 123 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: endorsed what the Dodgers are doing, said it was good 124 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: for the games that more owners should do what they're doing. Well, 125 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: of course, their players, we get it. They want the 126 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: current system to remain intact. They want all teams to spend. 127 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: But there is a segment of the fan base nationally 128 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: internationally that feels kind of the same way. So that's 129 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: a topic for another day. We'll discuss that at length 130 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: as we go on. Finally, in this first segment, I 131 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: want to get to the Orioles because the Orioles made 132 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: a move late last week as well, signing Chris Bassett, 133 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: free agent right hander, to a one year, eighteen point 134 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: five million dollar deal. This sort of caps off their 135 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: off season from a pitching perspective, a starting pitching perspective. 136 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: They've added Shane bas They've added Zach Efflin brought him back, 137 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: and they've added Bassett to a group that already included 138 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:35,239 Speaker 1: Trevor Rodgers, Kyle Bradish and Dean Kramer. They've got Kade Povich, 139 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: They've got Tyler Wells. They should have sufficient depth. The 140 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: question that is going to follow the Orioles all season, 141 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: and it's the question that I still have about them. 142 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: Did they do enough with that rotation. They certainly brought 143 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: in some new people and people that should help. But 144 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: we entered the off season saying what did they need? 145 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: A bona fide number one. Bradish is in his first 146 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: full season coming off the tim John Trevor Rodgers never 147 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: thrown more than one hundred and thirty three innings in 148 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: a season. These are guys who are top of the 149 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: rotation potential pitchers and if times in their careers have 150 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: shown that. But are they proven top of the rotation guys? 151 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: Not quite now. The Oils were in the mix for Sis, 152 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: for Valdez, for Rangers Suarez, but they ultimately did not 153 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: come away with any of them. They did not trade 154 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: for Freddie Peralta. So this is going to be the 155 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: question with the Orioles. They should have a really good 156 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: offense with the additions of Pete Alnzo and Taylor Ward, 157 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: they could even trade, as I wrote on Sunday, either 158 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 1: Kobe Mayo or Ryan Mountcastle. That's how deep they are 159 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: in right handed corner infielders. But at the same time, 160 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to pitch, and that's going to be 161 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: the key thing for them. They're gonna have to do 162 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: it both from a rotation perspective and a bullpen perspective. 163 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 1: They've got Kittridge back, They've signed Ryan Helsley. They are 164 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: what looks like on paper to be a formidable team 165 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: in the Al East. But as with every team, as 166 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: with the Padres, as we discussed earlier, their pitching is 167 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: kind of on a precipice. So I like where the 168 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: Oriols are. I would love it if they had landed 169 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: one of the top of the rotation guys. But remember 170 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: as well, each of those pitchers Valdez, Sies and Suarez 171 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 1: had questions about them. So nothing is a sure thing 172 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 1: in this game. And at least the Orioles did not 173 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: compromise their future too much by what they did in 174 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: trading for Baz and signing the free agents that they did. 175 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 1: All right, that is it for the first segment. We've 176 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: got another one coming up, and then another one after that. 177 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: Stay with us, all right. We got the Warby Parkers. 178 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:45,599 Speaker 1: I got the Raiders, but one thing I upgraded to Polarized. 179 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: Sorry about it. 180 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, these are good not only for wearing, but also 181 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 2: out in the sun. 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Please support our show and 197 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 3: tell them Foul Territory sent you. 198 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: Well well, Well, time now for the inside Dish, the 199 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: part of the show where I talk about maybe a 200 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 1: story I've written, maybe a trend in the game, maybe 201 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: something else entirely. And today I want to kind of 202 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: combine two of those things, something I've written along with 203 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 1: something that has been baited in the game for quite 204 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: some time now, and the question is the value of chemistry. 205 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: Last week I wrote a story about Alex Bregman and 206 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: his impact so far on the Cubs, even though it 207 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 1: is so early in spring training. It's the same kind 208 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: of impact he made off the field with the Houston 209 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: Astros and last season with the Boston Red Sox. And 210 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: I noticed in the comments section of the article, and 211 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: I hear this from fans too from time to time 212 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: they ask, well, what is the value of this? What 213 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: about all these things he's supposed to have done and 214 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: supposedly does What is it really? How much does it matter? 215 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: Fair questions? And in this age of analytics in baseball, 216 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: it seems to me that fans have grown so accustomed 217 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 1: to everything being quantified that when something can't be quantified, 218 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: such as the impact of an Alex Bregman. It's difficult 219 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: for them to grasp, and it's also difficult for the 220 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: people running the teams to grasp, and at times, in 221 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: my opinion, they underrat it. Now with Bregman, people might say, well, Ken, 222 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: if you ask a bunch of the new players on 223 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: the Cubs or the old players on the Cubs if 224 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: he's having an impact, of course they're going to say yes, yes. 225 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: But if you read the article, yes, read the article, 226 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: you will see I talked to players about concrete things 227 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: that Bregman is already doing and has done in the past. 228 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 1: We saw stories like this when he was with Houston. 229 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 1: He helped pitchers as well as hitters there. We saw 230 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 1: it last season with Boston. The young players swore by 231 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: Alex Bregman and what he meant to that clubhouse, and 232 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: so did some of the veteran players as well. With him, 233 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 1: he's bilingual. It's English speaking players, it's Spanish speaking players, 234 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: it's hitters, it's pitchers. He's almost like another coach on 235 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: the team. And of course none of this will matter 236 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: as much as what Bregman will be bringing to the 237 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: Cubs from a playing standpoint. His offensive value, his defensive value. 238 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: But you can't tell me that there is no value 239 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: to this. In fact, the Cubs wanted him in part 240 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: for this very reason, and other teams did too, and 241 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: we will see the impact that he has over the 242 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: course of his five year contract. Five years, one hundred 243 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: and seventy five million is what he received in free agency. 244 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: So that is one element and one example of chemistry 245 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: and what it might mean to a team. And I'm 246 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: going to talk about two others, Los Angeles Dodgers, two 247 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: time World Series champions. We talk all the time about 248 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: how much money they spend, about what they've done in 249 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: free agency. We talk a little bit about how good 250 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: they are player development. We don't talk often enough, in 251 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 1: my opinion, about that clubhouse and what they stand for 252 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: and how they go about it. That is a group 253 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: that holds each other accountable. It's a veteran group, to 254 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: be sure. Max Munsey, Freddie Freeman, Mookie Betts, mcgil Rojas, 255 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: all of these veterans that they have, and I'm sure 256 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: I'm missing a few of course, Taskar Hernandez being another 257 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: one in that group. When they have a problem with 258 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: someone on the team, they confront that player, but they 259 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: don't do it in a way that is necessarily negative. 260 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: With them, the players seem to understand that it's all 261 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: about winning, that everything that they talk about, everything that 262 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: they do, is geared toward one thing, and that is 263 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: winning a World Series championship. So comments and observations by 264 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: players to their teammates that might cause problems in other 265 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: clubhouses don't seem to cause problems with the Dodgers. That's 266 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: good chemistry. On the other end of the spectrum, the 267 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: twenty and twenty five New York Mets, now, some of 268 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: their fans have objected to the chemistry conversation the entire offseason. Basically, 269 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: their point is, and it's a valid point, that the 270 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: Mets problem was that their starting rotation collapsed, and if 271 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: their starting rotation had not collapsed, we would not have 272 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: ever started talking about their chemistry. That is an entirely 273 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: fair point. However, President of Baseball Operations David's Stearns, with 274 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: the way he conducted this offseason, told you everything you 275 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: needed to know about what he thought of the team's chemistry. Now, 276 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: Stearns is an analytical guy, as analytical as anybody in 277 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: the game, but he obviously saw that their clubhouse wasn't 278 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: quite right. Now we've read all about the Lindor Soto riff. 279 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: Both players kind of denied it over the weekends that 280 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: everything was fine. It just seems to me that they're 281 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: kind of different types. I don't know that it's a 282 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: huge rift between them, but certainly by purging Nimo and 283 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: allowing Alonzo to walk and then getting rid of Jeff McNeil, 284 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna exclude Edwin Diaz from this conversation. He's a closer. 285 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: He's not considered a problem in any stretch. But by 286 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: doing what Stearns did again, that was a message that 287 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: was I want a different vibe, I want different players, 288 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: I want a different look here. Who do they bring in? 289 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: Jorge Polanco been part of playoff teams, Boba Schett part 290 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: of playoff teams, Luis Robert jor know. But in many 291 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: of the examples that I will refer to there, in 292 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: many of the cases where they looked for new players, 293 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: Marcus Simeon is another one. They looked for players who 294 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: had good reputations for chemistry and who also are guys 295 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: that have been part of winning teams. The complaint, I 296 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: don't know how fair it is But the complaint some 297 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: fans had with Alonso, Nimo and McNeil, and the complaint 298 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: the front office seemed to have with Alonzo, McNeil and 299 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: Nimo to some degree, was we haven't won with these guys, 300 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: So we haven't won with these guys. Let's try something else. 301 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: So again, to wrap this up, I can't tell you 302 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: the value of chemistry. I can't tell you if Alex 303 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: Regman will mean two or three more wins to the 304 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: Cubs this year, simply because of who he is on 305 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: the club, because of what he might impart to teammates 306 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: such as Pete Crow Armstrong to a tip he might 307 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: give a pitcher at some point. You don't know what 308 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: that is. But people who know the game, people who 309 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: are involved in the game, they know it's something. The 310 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: people who are involved with the Dodgers, they know it's something. 311 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: The people who are involved with the Mets, they know 312 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: it's something. We're not making this up, folks. Chemistry is 313 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: a real thing. We'll be back with Grill and Ken 314 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: right after this bet. 315 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 3: I'm JM account holders today. How about in any sport 316 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 3: parlay boost token you can score a bigger payout if 317 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 3: your wager with that token hits tokens can be used 318 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 3: on parlays and on same game parlays. Gambling problem or concerned, 319 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 3: there's help called one eight hundred Gambler. 320 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: Time now for Grill and Kenton, the part of the 321 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: show where I answer your questions. Let's get right to them. 322 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: First question comes, Well, it's coming from somewhere, but it is. 323 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: Will Dave Dombrowski's comments about Bryce Harper galvanized or splinter 324 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: the Phillies. I don't expect the comments by Dombrowski about Harper, 325 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: whether he's elite or simply a good player. He's going 326 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: to galvanized, excuse me, the Phillies. It's going to galvanized, 327 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: and I believe has galvanized Bryce Harper, which is probably 328 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: exactly what Dave Dombrowski, president of baseball operations for the Phillies, 329 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: intended when he had those comments at the end of 330 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: the season. You remember that I referred to them. He 331 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: basically said, well, Bryce has been an elaite guy, but 332 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: last year he was only a good player, and it's 333 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: up to him whether he becomes elite again. Harper addressed 334 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 1: those comments Sunday to reporters. He said they were kind 335 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: of wild You didn't expect something like that to surface publicly, 336 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: And I don't know that it's going to give Bryce 337 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 1: Harper any more motivation. Bryce Harper is not a guy 338 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: who needs motivation. We've seen him. He's one of the 339 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: most fiery players in the game without his president of 340 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: base Operations making any comments about him whatsoever. But if 341 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: it does galvanize Harper to use the word in the question, 342 00:18:55,240 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: well even better. And in my opinion, Dombrowski when he 343 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: said that, that's exactly what he wanted to do. He 344 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: wanted to get under Harper's skin. He wanted to maybe 345 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: give him a little bit more incentive, motivation, whatever you 346 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: want to call it. Now Again, Bryce Harper doesn't need that. 347 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: But when you've got something to prove, a little extra 348 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: to prove never hurts when you're a major league player, 349 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: even for a superstar. So that was the point of 350 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: Dave Dombrowski's comments. I don't know that I would have 351 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: done it that way. I don't know that I need 352 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: Bryce Harper any more motivated than he already is. But 353 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: that was where Dombrowski seemed to be coming from. And 354 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: to hear Harper on Sunday you certainly know that those 355 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: comments irked him a little bit. All right, next question, 356 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: this one is are there signs of competitiveness emerging in Colorado? 357 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: I actually wrote about this in my Notes column over 358 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,479 Speaker 1: the weekend, and I quoted Michael Lorenzen as saying that 359 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 1: the pitching group they've put together, the group of coaches 360 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: that they've put together, to him, is a big sign, 361 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: a big reason why he signed there, and a big 362 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,479 Speaker 1: possibility for the Rockies going forward. It's a group of 363 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: pitchers and coaches that came from other teams, and under 364 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: now President Baseball Operations Paul de Podesta and general manager 365 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: Josh Burns, they're going to take a little bit of 366 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: a different approach, and I'm sure it's going to be 367 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: a more advanced approach than Colorado has taken in the past. 368 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: They were not known as being one of the most 369 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: analytically driven teams, and beyond that, they're playing in the 370 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: most difficult pitching environment in the Major League, So you 371 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: need to try something different. And Lorenzo's point to me was, 372 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: these guys are capable of doing it. They're creative in 373 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: their thinking, and from that perspective alone, yes, there are 374 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: signs of life in Colorado. Good signs, and I expect 375 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: Deep Podesta and Burns to do well there now. Well, 376 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: as a relative term, it means in their case, better 377 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: than they were last year, and then better than next 378 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: year after that. But they've got nowhere to go but up, 379 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: and I expect with these two guys running the team, 380 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: they will do exactly that. Next question, this one is 381 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 1: how would you describe this quote from Red Sox president 382 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: Sam Kennedy about Alex Bregman. The quote was, if Alex 383 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: Bregman wanted to be here, ultimately, he'd be here. Now. 384 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: How would I describe that quote? I would describe that 385 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 1: quote as rather interested as in Sam Kennedy, what are 386 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: you trying to say there? If you offered Alex Bregman 387 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: the most money, he'd probably be in Boston. If you 388 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: offered Alex Bregman the not trade clause that he clearly 389 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: decided desired that the Cubs were ruling to give him, 390 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 1: he'd probably be in Boston. When you get beat out 391 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: for a free agent, you get beat out because you 392 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: didn't offer enough in one form or another. So it's 393 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 1: not necessarily up to Bregman to decide whether he wants 394 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: to be in Boston. It's up to the Red Sox, 395 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: as it was with Mookie Betts, to impress him enough, 396 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: impress upon him enough that he is wanted to persuade 397 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: him to stay in Boston. So this is not on 398 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: our Alex Bregman. Unless he turned down thirty million more 399 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: from the Red Sox, then it's a fair point to 400 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: make if you're Sam Kennedy. But Sam Kennedy did not 401 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: say that that is what happened. He only said if 402 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: he wanted to be here, he'd be here. Well, yes, 403 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: no kidding. But in free agency, anything goes. The Cubs 404 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: made them the best offer. The Cubs got the player. 405 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: The Red Sox need to be quiet about what they 406 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 1: might have done for Alex Bregman unless they're willing to 407 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: show their hand completely. And hmm, I just don't think 408 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: they are all right. One more question before we go 409 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: this one? Ooh, I like this one. What's next for 410 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: Max Scherzer. Now? I spoke with Max Scherzer about I 411 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: don't know a month ago, and he said that he 412 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: is willing to sign with the right team right now. 413 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 1: He's ready to go. He's healthy, he's good, but he's 414 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 1: not going to sign with just any team who makes 415 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 1: him an offer. He wants the right team. There are 416 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: certain teams that he has in mind, and if he 417 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: doesn't hear a good enough offer from one one of 418 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: those teams, then he is willing to wait until after 419 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: this season begins. So once the injuries start to mount, 420 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: and they already are starting to mount, I would expect 421 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: at that point Scherzer to make a move. And you 422 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: see his former team, the Toronto Blue Jays, his last team, 423 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: a team that he loved pitching for. They've got some 424 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: issues with pitchers getting hurt already, Boden Francis out for 425 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: the season. Shane Bieber, we knew when he accepted the 426 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: qualifying I'm sorry when he opted in on his deal, 427 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: it exercised his player option. You almost knew something was up. 428 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: It's one year, sixteen million. If he was healthy, he 429 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: could have gotten more in free agency, but no, he 430 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 1: exercised the option. So they've got some physical concerns and 431 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 1: I'm sure at some point, if it gets more acute 432 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: for them, they'll be more interested in Max Scherzer. He's 433 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 1: certainly have been willing to spend more money his Orus Sanchez. 434 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: They bring him in this week six point eight million 435 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 1: or so, and they're already over the highest threshold. They 436 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: took him and took all of his money and had 437 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: no problem doing it. So the Blue Jays could be 438 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: one possibility for Scherzer, and I'm sure there are others 439 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 1: as well, but he is in a position where he 440 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: can wait because guys are going to go down, and 441 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: then once the season starts, not only are injuries going 442 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: to occur, in effectiveness is going to occur for certain 443 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: pictures as well. And when you have all these combinations 444 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 1: of things happening, then openings arise and teams get more 445 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: desperate perhaps than they are now. All Right with that, 446 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna wrap up today's show. Thank you for watching 447 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: for listening. Foul Territory coming up at one o'clock et 448 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: Buck Show Walter joins aj Eric Kratz and Scott Braun. 449 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: We'll be back Thursday, usual time slot twelve thirty Eastern 450 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: with Alana Rizzo. Have a great week everyone, We'll talk 451 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: to you soon.