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Speaker 2: The rumored Kansas City Chiefs bias in the NFL has
Speaker 2: become a really, really hot topic. In fact, Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 2: addressed this yesterday in his press conference.
Speaker 3: I've kind of learned that no matter what happens during
Speaker 3: the game, that something's going to come out or about
Speaker 3: if you win and you continue to win, So I
Speaker 3: don't really pay attention to it. I mean, obviously I've
Speaker 3: been on both sides of it as far as how
Speaker 3: I felt the calls were made. But at the end
Speaker 3: of the day, man, those guys are doing their best
Speaker 3: to make the best calls and keep it toward the
Speaker 3: players and making the plays in the game. And that's
Speaker 3: what besides the outcome, And there was a call here
Speaker 3: or there that people didn't agree with, but at the
Speaker 3: same time, I think there was a lot of other
Speaker 3: plays that really decided to outcome of that football game.
Speaker 2: Okay, did the right thing. Compliment the officials doing the
Speaker 2: right thing. I've been on both sides of this. Now,
Speaker 2: nobody's suggesting that there's this scandal. Now some in our
Speaker 2: audience have suggested that the NFL somehow wants the Chiefs
Speaker 2: to win, but the penalty disparity between Kansas City and
Speaker 2: their postseason opponents is hard to ignore. It's you know,
Speaker 2: you start to look at the numbers and you go,
Speaker 2: all right, there's something there. Warren Sharp, who's a football analyst,
Speaker 2: found that since twenty twenty one, the Chiefs have benefited
Speaker 2: from a staggering penalty disparity this in the postseason. Over
Speaker 2: eleven playoff games, Kansas City has never had more penalties
Speaker 2: than their opponents, going ten to one. In that span,
Speaker 2: thirty six penalties compared to the sixty six.
Speaker 4: You know with their opponents, that's a lot.
Speaker 2: That's not one of those okay, kind of close there,
Speaker 2: sixty six to thirty six. The penalty disparity does raise
Speaker 2: questions here. Now you can say Kansas City's at home,
Speaker 2: you're going to get more calls. There's discipline here. Andy
Speaker 2: Reid is instilled discipline on this team. Maybe it's luck,
Speaker 2: maybe it's something else, but it's hard to say that
Speaker 2: the statistical anomaly hasn't benefited the league's best team. The
Speaker 2: numbers are there, and there is this perception and this
Speaker 2: is what all these leagues fight against the NBA. David Stern, Boy,
Speaker 2: you want to drive him crazy, talk about how you
Speaker 2: know these officials benefit the stars are certain teams, and
Speaker 2: he would be apoplectic. He'd go crazy. This commissioner, I
Speaker 2: have no idea how he feels about this. I would
Speaker 2: feel bad, or I'd at least be aware of the
Speaker 2: perception that the Chiefs get all these calls. Now, is
Speaker 2: that going to mean that the commissioner says something to
Speaker 2: the officials. I don't think so. But the officials want
Speaker 2: to get the call, right. Do I think that Mahomes
Speaker 2: flaunts the protect the quarterback rules?
Speaker 4: Yes? I do, and he's acknowledged that.
Speaker 2: I don't blame him for doing it, But then I
Speaker 2: don't blame somebody taking a shot at him. At some point,
Speaker 2: somebody's going to Is it going to be in the postseason?
Speaker 2: Is it going to be worth it? Does the team
Speaker 2: or as players or his teammates say, we'll pay the fine,
Speaker 2: you know what, We'll take the fifteen yards. We want
Speaker 2: to make sure that he doesn't continue to do this.
Speaker 2: But if you look at those numbers, just the raw
Speaker 2: numbers there, I don't think you can go it's nothing.
Speaker 2: I don't you know, even the biggest Kansas City chief apologist,
Speaker 2: Nick Wright, can't look at that and go that's nothing.
Speaker 2: I will say that you're at home, you're going to
Speaker 2: get more calls or you're probably not going to be
Speaker 2: guilty of, you know, the crowd noise bothering you, like,
Speaker 2: there's certain things that go in most teams will probably
Speaker 2: get the call, and there's a penalty disparity between home
Speaker 2: and a way. But these are postseason games and that's
Speaker 2: where you have a really good team coming in and
Speaker 2: they have discipline as well, or they wouldn't gotten to
Speaker 2: this point. So there are numbers that are there, and
Speaker 2: it doesn't help the perception that the Kansas City chiefs
Speaker 2: get all the phone calls. Got ahead of myself here,
Speaker 2: but good morning. If you're watching on Peacock and our
Speaker 2: radio affiliates around the country, our buddy Sean Salisbury, former
Speaker 2: quarterback Hill John is coming up here in a little
Speaker 2: bit eight seven to seven to three DP show update
Speaker 2: the poll results seat and then I have a suggestion
Speaker 2: for the NFL.
Speaker 5: Which would you want your team to hire an offensive
Speaker 5: coordinator defensive coordinator? Right now, that's at about seventy four
Speaker 5: percent offensive coordinator. Okay, we also have one that we
Speaker 5: we were going to get to yesterday but never quite
Speaker 5: got around to. Whose coaching legacy changes more with a
Speaker 5: Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: Win this season? Okay, I don't know when you're ready
Speaker 4: for that. I don't know if I wasn't ready yesterday,
Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm ready today.
Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, how about which quarterback has more pressure on
Speaker 5: them this weekend?
Speaker 2: I'm not ready for that. I'm not ready for that
Speaker 2: one either. Let's do the coaches right now. Which coach
Speaker 2: would benefit the most? So Dan Quinn famously lost twenty
Speaker 2: eight to three a twenty eight to three lead with
Speaker 2: the Patriots, even though Kyle Shanahan gets the play.
Speaker 4: Andy Reid another super Bowl super Bowl win.
Speaker 5: That'd be four for him, including three in a row.
Speaker 2: Yeah, something nobody's ever done. Might move him to the
Speaker 2: He's definitely the second greatest coach of all time. Now
Speaker 2: see that Chuck Noel won four. That gets tricky. You know, Lombardy,
Speaker 2: they had won championships, then they won the first two
Speaker 2: Super Bowls. So I think when you're saying greatest coach
Speaker 2: of all time, there's probably going to be asterisk with
Speaker 2: certain names of when they coached, you know, Chuck Nole
Speaker 2: winning four Super Bowls? Would I put him there with Belichick? Yes,
Speaker 2: I would Don Shula, but Don Shula didn't win enough
Speaker 2: super Bowls to be he has the most wins. You
Speaker 2: can throw in Tom Landry if you I mean, there's
Speaker 2: a lot of coaches, Bill Walsh, you can put him
Speaker 2: in there.
Speaker 4: There's quite a few of them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but Andy Reid's name definitely gets mentioned, sure a
Speaker 5: lot more with that with a fourth super Bowl and
Speaker 5: three in a row, and three in a row, absolutely,
Speaker 5: so dan Quinn would make up for the loss, even
Speaker 5: though that wouldn't really help Atlanta fans.
Speaker 2: McDermott and Buffalo. Boy, that's a big one. That's a
Speaker 2: big one. That's where it's like, yeah, that's pretty good.
Speaker 2: It felt like he's been on the hot seat a
Speaker 2: couple of times, or at least the perceived hot seat.
Speaker 2: Then you win a super Bowl in a year where
Speaker 2: I think most people thought Buffalo would be a good team,
Speaker 2: not a great team. And if you beat Kansas City
Speaker 2: in Kansas City and you'd win a Super Bowl, ding
Speaker 2: ding ding ding ding ding, that's a big deal. Andy,
Speaker 2: You know, that's a big deal for Andy Nick Sirian Cirianni.
Speaker 2: That's also one of those he's on the hot seat.
Speaker 2: He could win a super Bowl and still be on
Speaker 2: the hot seat.
Speaker 4: It feels definitely yes.
Speaker 2: And what did he say to the fans? You know,
Speaker 2: does he get along with Jalen Hurts? I would say,
Speaker 2: I'd say mc Sean McDermott, Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 6: You're stopping the three peat, so it has more weight
Speaker 6: to it. It's you're not getting to the super Bowl
Speaker 6: by beating a scrub team or a rando team. You're
Speaker 6: taking down the Chiefs, and a lot of people want
Speaker 6: you to do it.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think I mentioned it yesterday. But I think Steve
Speaker 5: Spagnolo Spags Spags gets a massive boost. He's he's gonna
Speaker 5: end up going to the Hall of Fame as a coordinator,
Speaker 5: which I don't know how many times that happens.
Speaker 4: Did we find that out? Can we?
Speaker 2: We checked with our research people the number of coordinators
Speaker 2: just ordinator, give me that many. I just thought Dick
Speaker 2: Lebou was a coordinator, but he's a former player as well.
Speaker 6: Yes, Pauline, I only found one yesterday. It was Dick
Speaker 6: lebo and I think he gets a bonus. He was
Speaker 6: a head coach for a couple of years with the
Speaker 6: Bengals two thousand to two didn't work out so well,
Speaker 6: but he got most of his credit for being an
Speaker 6: assistant coach. He does get a lot of credit because
Speaker 6: he had a very good NFL career as a player.
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Speaker 2: media platforms. Yeah, I would say Sean McDermot, anybody have
Speaker 2: anybody else that they would go They they could use
Speaker 2: a real boost winning or that would really boost them up.
Speaker 5: Yes, I and Kellen Moore could use the boost too.
Speaker 5: He's kind of he was the like air apparent in
Speaker 5: Dallas and now since he's bounced around a little bit
Speaker 5: to strike out on his own, I think that he
Speaker 5: if he could help lead that offense to a Super
Speaker 5: Bowl win, that would be a massive boost for him.
Speaker 2: So now we've made it assistant coach who could use
Speaker 2: the biggest next level.
Speaker 5: We just said coach and not head coach. They're all
Speaker 5: coach coach, Spags over under ten Cutaways just Steve Spagnola
Speaker 5: Cutaway is not mentioned.
Speaker 2: Well, I think if they show him then they'll mention
Speaker 2: Spags is dialing something up. Definitely over You're gonna go
Speaker 2: over ten because there's more shots of Spags than there
Speaker 2: is Taylor Swift. Oh yeah, they no, definitely definitely. Okay,
Speaker 2: let's do a bet who's on camera? Who gets more
Speaker 2: screen time? How about that Taylor Swift or Spags styling
Speaker 2: something up. See, I'm gonna do Spags because I think
Speaker 2: the networks know that people they don't necessarily want to
Speaker 2: see Taylor Swift. I mean you know that she's there. Great,
Speaker 2: you show her playoff game? Okay? Is she sitting next
Speaker 2: to whoever? Caitlin Clark? Is it gonna be Travis Kelsey's mom?
Speaker 2: But I don't know, Brittany Mahomes. I think maybe maybe
Speaker 2: three three appearances over under three and a half three
Speaker 2: and a half, yes, yes, Marvin, but.
Speaker 8: I think it depends on how good Travis Kelsey's playing. Oh,
Speaker 8: if he has eleven catches, that's at least seven or
Speaker 8: eight panaways.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, miss Taylor Swift, all right, but what
Speaker 2: if Chris Jones has got three sacks and who's the
Speaker 2: defensive lineman there? Yeah, if he gets two sacks, you
Speaker 2: go to Spags. Oh he's dialing some I can dial
Speaker 2: up a lot of stuff. That doesn't mean it's going
Speaker 2: to happen now, says Spags is dialing something up. Somebody
Speaker 2: has to be able to put that in motion. Yes, Pauli,
Speaker 2: you know you've made it in the NFL.
Speaker 6: When they don't, they don't say, you know, the Chiefs
Speaker 6: defense is playing really well this week. The Spagnolo defense
Speaker 6: is really playing well this week.
Speaker 4: These Spags.
Speaker 9: Yes, Ton, And if you add up the total seconds
Speaker 9: of airtime, I would have to go to Spags because
Speaker 9: when they show Taylor for a couple of quick seconds,
Speaker 9: she's hugging someone or high fiving Patrick Mahomes's wife. When
Speaker 9: you're talking about a particular play and you're getting reaction
Speaker 9: in the headphones on the sideline, you're more likely I
Speaker 9: would think to stay on Spags for longer periods.
Speaker 2: Of the Yah Spags, he's always dialing something. Uh No,
Speaker 2: other defensive coordinator dials something up.
Speaker 4: It's always Spags.
Speaker 8: Yes, Martin Spags in the fourth quarter alone against the Rams.
Speaker 8: They showed him about five or six times because they
Speaker 8: just kept going after Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 4: Bags.
Speaker 8: Oh look what he did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, even though Matthew Stafford could have led them down
Speaker 2: and won the game against US. You know the defense
Speaker 2: that they were dialing up, the Stevie Spags defense.
Speaker 4: My bad, Spags. I had the wrong team. I have
Speaker 4: the Rams and the Eagles. Yes, you have to say
Speaker 4: his name.
Speaker 6: It's not the fiesta ball, it's the tostitos festa a
Speaker 6: spagnolo defense.
Speaker 4: What would you like tonight? I'll take the spagnolo please? Yes?
Speaker 4: Is maren ariosouce on that?
Speaker 9: Please?
Speaker 4: Jimmy and tell me Kalamara.
Speaker 2: I love the spags. Spaghetti spag spagghetti. Yeah, there we go. Yes, Yes.
Speaker 6: If you work in a restaurant, they shorten it to spag.
Speaker 6: If you put in an order, you put it. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I need two spags. I need two spag and balls.
Speaker 6: I'm dead serious. Like if you go in the back
Speaker 6: of a restaurant and you hear the ordering, especially Italian,
Speaker 6: I need two spag and balls.
Speaker 4: Rush all right, those spaghetti and meatballs.
Speaker 5: I'm asking if that's true. Yeah, I'm gonna ask if
Speaker 5: that's true on the Twitter machine.
Speaker 6: It's true in the restaurants I worked at.
Speaker 4: What restaurants did you work it?
Speaker 6: In my life? Yeah, four or five different ones.
Speaker 5: Paul, You've had more jobs than I've known you for
Speaker 5: twenty years. And I've never heard you discussed working and arrest.
Speaker 5: Ever heard you say that bar and grill. When you
Speaker 5: work in a bar, it's not a restaurant. Well, okay,
Speaker 5: it has a rest and delivering. You are also a
Speaker 5: bouncer when you're a bar back, though I bar backed
Speaker 5: a lot. And when you bar back, you're running food
Speaker 5: back and forth. You're running beer back and forth, drinks back.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if you've ever said that you
Speaker 2: worked in a restaurant. You've been to a couple of them,
Speaker 2: and almost they were restaurants.
Speaker 6: They had a full many bars, they had a full kitchen.
Speaker 6: They were bars that served food. Where I heard it
Speaker 6: was a place called Peters in New York City. I
Speaker 6: was a doorman bartender depending on the day, and when
Speaker 6: you being back, you'd hear the wildness that's in the
Speaker 6: back of the back of the house as they call it.
Speaker 6: That'll wear a lot of hats sometimes.
Speaker 2: Setan's had a lot of jobs too, but Pauli's had
Speaker 2: more that many, not as many as Paul.
Speaker 6: I probably worked in six different.
Speaker 4: Bars, being a bouncer, bar back.
Speaker 6: Dorman, dorman more than bouncer. I checked your ID. I
Speaker 6: didn't push anybody around.
Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, don't mess with that guy. Right.
Speaker 6: Well, they thought there must be something I had because
Speaker 6: there's no physical commodation.
Speaker 2: Maybe a gun that I'd be the only thing. It'd be, like,
Speaker 2: I don't know. That guy didn't look like that. He's
Speaker 2: It's like Howard Stearn's bodyguard, Ronnie mund You know he's
Speaker 2: a limo driver, but uh, you know, he looked intimidating.
Speaker 2: I think, but I don't know. If somebody goes man,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to get to Howard. I got to
Speaker 2: go through Ronnie. Don't want to mess with that.
Speaker 5: Paul is working with Jim Nancy at CBS, whilst also
Speaker 5: being a personal trainer at the Rebunk Club.
Speaker 4: And serving spagging balls at Morton's. That is in one summer,
Speaker 4: not Morton's or whatever it was.
Speaker 2: Then.
Speaker 6: I don't know what my first year in New York
Speaker 6: City I was simultaneously working CBS Sports, Peters and the
Speaker 6: Rebochethetic Club where you've been in before, all three jobs
Speaker 6: at once. Got to make ends meet in your Yeah,
Speaker 6: yeah you do. I was a weekend guy at the CBS.
Speaker 6: A lot of money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, give me spags and balls. That's all I care about.
Speaker 2: How about we take a break. Shawn Salisbury's going to
Speaker 2: join us. I want him to tweak the rules on
Speaker 2: these quarterback rules protection there. What would sean former quarterback
Speaker 2: I have to say about all this? Get phone calls,
Speaker 2: got a new poll question as well, Our dour rankings
Speaker 2: coming up later on this hour as well.
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Speaker 2: More phone calls coming up, update the poll results as well.
Speaker 2: Still trying to figure out what the cowboys are doing.
Speaker 2: It feels like the cowboys are doing what the cowboys
Speaker 2: do that you bring in familiar familiarity. These guys know
Speaker 2: what the deal is. Aside from Dion that you come in.
Speaker 2: Jerry's still going to be the head coach and maybe
Speaker 2: you're going to have the same results as well. Brian
Speaker 2: Schottenheimer is a lifer of football guy. He's been in
Speaker 2: the system with the Cowboys.
Speaker 4: He would be.
Speaker 2: Thrilled to be the next head coach of the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: But here was my problem with the whole situation with
Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy. You dangle him, he's got a one year deal,
Speaker 2: he's a lame duck, and then all of a sudden
Speaker 2: you can't decide if you're going to keep him or not,
Speaker 2: and then Mike probably said, you know what, I'm out
Speaker 2: of here. Well, it hurts you because then you had
Speaker 2: this window to be able to talk to these offensive
Speaker 2: and defensive coordinators during your their bye week in Detroit.
Speaker 2: You could have talked to Ben Johnson as a result,
Speaker 2: and you miss out on having a zoom call with
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson. I don't think Ben Johnson wanted to go
Speaker 2: to the Cowboys because he knows what the situation is.
Speaker 2: He's going to be in Chicago and he's going to
Speaker 2: be able to run his team, or at least he
Speaker 2: hopes so. Mike Rabel's same way with New England. If
Speaker 2: you're going to go into Dallas, You're not going to
Speaker 2: be running the Dallas Cowboys. Let's bring in Sean Soulisbury,
Speaker 2: former NFL quarterback. Also he hosts the morning show on
Speaker 2: Sports Talk seven ninety in Houston. Good to talk to
Speaker 2: you again, Sean. Do you have an idea what the
Speaker 2: Cowboys are doing?
Speaker 7: Yeah, they're being the Cowboys.
Speaker 13: Dan, think about this now, which you mentioned, and listen
Speaker 13: to what you're saying.
Speaker 7: Their inconsistency and.
Speaker 13: Lack of like proactive is exactly who they've been since
Speaker 13: the mid nineties. And Jerry Dion notwithstanding, if he pulls
Speaker 13: that off, it'll be because relationships and all that. But Jerry,
Speaker 13: Jerry would have fired himself fifteen times as the GM
Speaker 13: since the mid nineties. Great Marketer, the best in the world.
Speaker 13: But the problem is is that Jerry's never gonna let
Speaker 13: anybody come in there and be the face.
Speaker 7: And the voice of the building.
Speaker 13: He's just not And when you have that, you can't
Speaker 13: be a doctor in a lawyer in the same office.
Speaker 13: You got to be able to empower people to do it.
Speaker 13: So you're gonna get guys not saying these guys aren't
Speaker 13: good football coaches. Brian Schottenheimer, Kellen Moore, Jason Garrett. You're
Speaker 13: gonna get guys who come in and are gonna say,
Speaker 13: I want this job. I don't need any other power.
Speaker 13: I want a head coach. Let me at least have
Speaker 13: a little autonomy to hire some of the guys we want.
Speaker 13: But you make any decision you want, it's not gonna
Speaker 13: be somebody with power that wants to run the building,
Speaker 13: not only the groceries, but also put it out there
Speaker 13: and be the guy in the hallway after the game
Speaker 13: that's doing the press conference. As long as Jerry continues this,
Speaker 13: the Dallas Cowboys will be who they are a January
Speaker 13: if they're lucky team.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I know that the Dion story, and you know
Speaker 2: that had legs for a while because it was the
Speaker 2: Cowboys and Dion, and I kept saying, I just don't
Speaker 2: know if it's real.
Speaker 4: I still don't know if it's real.
Speaker 2: But I did see an article that said Colorado is
Speaker 2: upping its contract talks with.
Speaker 7: What a coinn Yeah, shocker.
Speaker 13: Hey, if you're not really looking for the job, the
Speaker 13: best they can do is bring out the pro interest
Speaker 13: and you'll get paid. But Dan real quick on that
Speaker 13: that's good for him. Heyle if you can get it,
Speaker 13: go get more money. Sure, but the Dion talk. If Dion,
Speaker 13: there's a lot of familiarity there. If Dion was going
Speaker 13: to get the Cowboys gig, and I mean, maybe it'd
Speaker 13: be awesome. Wouldn't he already have it? What are you
Speaker 13: waiting for? This is who the Cowboys are. Wait till
Speaker 13: everybody's gone and they say, well, we're.
Speaker 7: Going to hire Dave Campo tomorrow.
Speaker 13: Not that Dave camp wouldn't a good coach, but now
Speaker 13: Jerry still gets to be the loudest voice in the
Speaker 13: biggest face in the building. That's not changing, Dan, regardless
Speaker 13: of everybody's wish.
Speaker 2: Why does it the appearance that the Chiefs get more
Speaker 2: calls than anybody else? Why is that, whether it's based
Speaker 2: in fact or based in fiction, there is that perception.
Speaker 2: And there are numbers that show when they play their
Speaker 2: last eleven playoff games, they're ten to one, and the
Speaker 2: disparity between the penalties on them and to the disparity
Speaker 2: on their opposition.
Speaker 7: Well, Dan, whyatt seems like it is because they do?
Speaker 13: Right now, I understand Bird and Jordan and Kobe and
Speaker 13: all the guys getting Lebron getting calls because they're superstars.
Speaker 7: It doesn't mean that should be the case.
Speaker 13: A goaltending calls a goaltending call in basketball, right, it
Speaker 13: should be no matter who the guy is blocking a
Speaker 13: shot in football? Why is it that the Brady's or
Speaker 13: the Stars are supposed to get more calls in the backup? Hell,
Speaker 13: the backup needs more calls because he's not as good.
Speaker 7: There is that perception maybe they've earned ooh, a different look.
Speaker 13: When Tony Gwynn took a pitch, umpires if they were
Speaker 13: sitting on the fence called at a ball. Well, it's
Speaker 13: Tony Gwynn, and I understand that similar feeling here. I
Speaker 13: don't want it diminish because listen, you could slice it
Speaker 13: and be as pissed as you want about the Chiefs
Speaker 13: and their success. They become the villain now because people
Speaker 13: are fatigued by them. But they know how to win.
Speaker 13: They're great, great situational football, even when it doesn't look pretty.
Speaker 13: When the time is right, they always make a play.
Speaker 13: And then every now and again you'll get a call
Speaker 13: that was a phantom, and the perception is that's how
Speaker 13: they win all their games. That's not true. The Texans
Speaker 13: got their ass kick because they gave up eight sacks.
Speaker 13: They special teams was horrible and you let it. You know,
Speaker 13: the their offense with Kelsey do whatever they wanted, and
Speaker 13: the bonuses that you get a couple phantom calls on homes,
Speaker 13: you do have to go in knowing two or three
Speaker 13: times a game that will happen. So you're beating a
Speaker 13: twelfth man on plays. But I think we diminished the
Speaker 13: Chiefs great play and situational greatness.
Speaker 7: Because of a couple calls.
Speaker 13: Would they help, Yeah, if you could get them back,
Speaker 13: and you need them going there, But that's not the
Speaker 13: reason they keep winning. They keep winning because they got
Speaker 13: more guts and stones at the right time than most
Speaker 13: of their opponents. But make no mistake, they do get
Speaker 13: superstar treatment and you and I both know it.
Speaker 2: Okay, So moving forward, the NFL will do what in
Speaker 2: the sliding rule or protecting the quarterback or you know,
Speaker 2: and Mahomes is admitted that he's kind of flaunting this. Hey,
Speaker 2: I'm kind of getting out of bound, kind of getting
Speaker 2: that oh to flop out of mounds or when you slide.
Speaker 2: The NFL does have It's not a crisis, but it
Speaker 2: certainly is. The situation needs to be tended to.
Speaker 13: My favorite is all quarterbacks hate to protect. They do, Dan,
Speaker 13: you've talked to them, I have to. Quarterbacks don't like
Speaker 13: the over protection. But I'll be damned at the second
Speaker 13: they get a hit, their heads snap into the officials saying,
Speaker 13: aren't you gonna call that? And Mahomes is great at
Speaker 13: manipulating which the rules are allowing the little okie dokee
Speaker 13: by the sideline step and extend the ball. Know that
Speaker 13: you're over there slowing down. Maybe you'll get a hit,
Speaker 13: maybe you'll get the foul. And he would get it,
Speaker 13: so he's not dumb. He gets it.
Speaker 14: Dan.
Speaker 13: With all this talk, you know what they're gonna do,
Speaker 13: protect the quarterbacks and players more.
Speaker 7: That's what they're gonna do.
Speaker 13: Because the lawsuits and oh my gosh, they're gonna tell
Speaker 13: you that they're gonna watch it a little better. Well,
Speaker 13: when all, when all, when all, you can never take
Speaker 13: an eight carrot diamond ring for your fiance and show
Speaker 13: her it then go give her the one carrot cubic zirconya.
Speaker 7: You just can't do it. And it's the same thing here.
Speaker 13: You're not gonna go here and all of a sudden
Speaker 13: say let's back off the injuries, even though we all
Speaker 13: know the rules suck. We overprotect. We've lost the integrity
Speaker 13: of tackle football, and it adds to it when superstar
Speaker 13: quarterbacks have it. The bottom line for me, Dan, I
Speaker 13: hate the feet first slide rule when you break out
Speaker 13: of the pocket. We have so many great runners at
Speaker 13: quarterback now that look at Jayden Daniels and Hurts and
Speaker 13: Allen and Jackson and Mahomes. These guys now are so
Speaker 13: good at not only manipulating the rules, but so good
Speaker 13: using being two dimensional players that why can't we go
Speaker 13: back to be smart in the open field like Elway.
Speaker 7: Had to do when he played with his feet or
Speaker 7: Steve Young get down. I hate.
Speaker 13: I think that you're opening yourself up to more injuries
Speaker 13: and problems by keeping the feet first slide because of
Speaker 13: the okie dope and defensive players. Every single rule on
Speaker 13: the planet is set up for points and a defensive
Speaker 13: player to get host. I'm not sure how you approach
Speaker 13: a player because the same guy that doesn't take a
Speaker 13: hit on an open a legal hit on a quarterback
Speaker 13: in the open field, you know what their coach says
Speaker 13: to him on Monday much and tape, Dan, keep doing
Speaker 13: that and you'll be looking for another job. Defenses get hosed.
Speaker 13: It's gotta change. I doubt it will, but it should.
Speaker 13: I can't stand the feet first slide. When you leave
Speaker 13: that pocket, you become a football player like everybody else,
Speaker 13: and do what everybody else has to do. Protect your
Speaker 13: damn self, or go stand on there and do what
Speaker 13: I did. Grab gatorad and hand it to the guy
Speaker 13: who's out there protecting himself.
Speaker 2: Okay, you got to give me the quarterback under the
Speaker 2: most pressure this weekend.
Speaker 13: Well, just by playoff pressure. It's sure not Jayden. Dan
Speaker 13: is all how special to see Dan? Right, boy, the poise,
Speaker 13: everything that's been documented. I think there's you know, he's
Speaker 13: a rookie, so I hate the word. Well, he's on
Speaker 13: house money. You never know if you're gonna get back.
Speaker 13: So it's not him. Jalen hurts. The pressure to throw.
Speaker 13: If Philadelphia is a pressure pack city, and if they
Speaker 13: don't throw it, well that team they're playing can possibly
Speaker 13: make them one dimensional leaving. As good as Barkley is,
Speaker 13: it's not Mahomes because well he keeps piling him up.
Speaker 13: He's chasing Brady. He's got his He just wants more
Speaker 13: and he wants to be greedy, and I unblameing. It's
Speaker 13: gotta be Josh Allen, even after the great season he's had.
Speaker 13: After all, he's the best player in Lamar Jackson not
Speaker 13: to win a major in the golf course, right, Dan.
Speaker 7: It's got to be him.
Speaker 13: He's going on the road that we've seen this movie before,
Speaker 13: the expectations.
Speaker 7: He's played great, he's protected the ball, he's.
Speaker 13: Dressing in a phone booth every week, and he'll have
Speaker 13: to do it again. I think it falls on him
Speaker 13: because no matter what happens, even if he throws for
Speaker 13: four hundred and five touchdowns, if they lose, we're gonna
Speaker 13: walk off this field. And you know what we're gonna say,
Speaker 13: because that's how we do is, yeah, can get you
Speaker 13: to January, but can't get you to February. Even if
Speaker 13: he plays like Superman this week, it falls back on
Speaker 13: him and.
Speaker 7: People can he say yeah, but can he get you
Speaker 7: to February?
Speaker 13: Which will not be fair, but it'll be because they
Speaker 13: can't win this game if he plays average. He's got
Speaker 13: to play great. Most of the pressure falls on him.
Speaker 13: One guy's too young. The other guy, I don't think
Speaker 13: we expect to throw for three hundred yards and Jalen hurts,
Speaker 13: it's one of these guys, and it's not Mahomes because
Speaker 13: he's got his It's all on Allen because he's got
Speaker 13: a Hall of Fame career budding. He just doesn't have
Speaker 13: a Super Bowl ring and this would to some validate
Speaker 13: that for him.
Speaker 2: Shawn Salisbury, former NFL quarterback, host of the Sean Salisbury
Speaker 2: Shows Sports Talk seven ninety in Houston. I would argue
Speaker 2: and say it's Mahomes because everything he's doing is Brady. Yes,
Speaker 2: if you get there, you got to win. You don't
Speaker 2: know how long the gravy train last, and he could
Speaker 2: have a three peat, which Tom never had. Now, all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, you're bringing in Michael Jordan. So if
Speaker 2: you're Mahomes, now, all of a sudden, we've gone outside
Speaker 2: of the sport and now we're bringing up the name,
Speaker 2: or I would Michael Jordan, who three peated twice.
Speaker 13: He's the best winner in sports right now. Dan in
Speaker 13: team sports, he really is. He's the best winner in
Speaker 13: team sports. And it may not look pretty all the time,
Speaker 13: but he finds ways, which to me is a great trait.
Speaker 13: There are certain guys who find ways to lose. Mahomes
Speaker 13: finds ways to win, regardless of roster shifting and all that.
Speaker 13: But Dan and I think maybe we could even put
Speaker 13: in two verticals right. One is the pressure on Mahomes
Speaker 13: for the individual legacy see chasing Brady three pete, the
Speaker 13: things that he hasn't done and still things you've got
Speaker 13: to accomplish to get to Brady's numbers, the wins and
Speaker 13: all that and that legacy. But there's also the other
Speaker 13: side that Mahomes and the team. If the Chiefs lose
Speaker 13: this game, I doubt that very few people are going
Speaker 13: to walk off saying man, the Kansas City Chiefs and Mahomes.
Speaker 13: That kind of takes some shine off mahomes career chasing
Speaker 13: because even Brady lost some, he even lost them even
Speaker 13: in that undefeated season. So while there's pressure, I think
Speaker 13: for him that inner pressure of I'm keeping track, even
Speaker 13: though he won't tell you this, keeping track with the
Speaker 13: Brady chase that exists, the Jordan Chase, the Tiger Woods chase.
Speaker 13: I do think that's relevant Dan and applies here. But
Speaker 13: as an overall team, I think the pressure of a
Speaker 13: city are expectations. Buffalo also having been to four in
Speaker 13: a Row and even the great Jim Kelly. They didn't
Speaker 13: win one of those. I think that part when it
Speaker 13: comes to the team, adds the extra team pressure. Tosh
Speaker 13: Allen and a guy who is so good but hasn't
Speaker 13: been validated with the Super Bowl appearance.
Speaker 2: Now give me the coach who benefits the most from
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl win.
Speaker 13: Well, we already know that Andy Reid's the best coaching
Speaker 13: football right now, and he's he's in a chase mode too.
Speaker 13: But I think we've already got him as he's a surefire,
Speaker 13: no brainer Hall of Famer, and.
Speaker 2: He can he catch Belichick. We're talking about mahomes so right,
Speaker 2: like it's a package deal that if one catches one,
Speaker 2: then the other one catches one.
Speaker 13: Dan, There's a lot of wins to go in that category,
Speaker 13: isn't there. You got to be a little lucky to
Speaker 13: get to the Belichick shoela.
Speaker 7: But canny, Yeah, depends on how long Andy Reid wants
Speaker 7: to do it.
Speaker 13: And if he has a guy that wears number fifteen's
Speaker 13: pretty good over the next decade. Yeah, I think, But
Speaker 13: he's got his ring now. That pressure existed when Andy
Speaker 13: came from Philly. It's not on it's not on Quinn.
Speaker 13: He's still you know, building his team.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he would be able to make up for
Speaker 4: twenty eight to three.
Speaker 13: There is no doubt after being down to Brady himself,
Speaker 13: that would be great validation. I think because of the
Speaker 13: pressure they've been there before last year, losing coordinators and
Speaker 13: everybody even had him at the beginning of the season.
Speaker 13: If they struggle, we're going to fire him. The Nick
Speaker 13: Sirianny thing and the pressure of Philly. I think that
Speaker 13: I'm gonna put it on him, and I think Sean
Speaker 13: McDermott as well in the AFC you can pick six
Speaker 13: and one a half dozen in the other because he
Speaker 13: too has had really good teams.
Speaker 7: They've knocked on the door and have been there at least.
Speaker 13: Syrian he's been to his and Plus you know, McDermott's
Speaker 13: going against the guy who was his mentor and the
Speaker 13: guy who had him on his coaching staff in Philadelphia.
Speaker 13: So probably it's Buffalo or Philly for sure. I don't
Speaker 13: think it exists other than the inter fight for Dan Quinn.
Speaker 7: But Andy Reid. There's always pressure.
Speaker 13: It's on all of them. But Andy Reid's career is
Speaker 13: not going to be diminished or we're not going to
Speaker 13: say yeah, he's not Belichick if he loses a Super
Speaker 13: Bowl or doesn't get there.
Speaker 4: Good to talk to you as always, Sean, thanks for
Speaker 4: joining us.
Speaker 7: Great to talk to you, Dan, appreciate you. Enjoy that.
Speaker 2: Sean Salisbury, former NFL quarterback, host of The Sean Salisbury
Speaker 2: Show in Sports Talk seven ninety in Houston, Hell Brad
Speaker 2: and Missouri. Hi Brad, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 3: Dan?
Speaker 4: How you doing good? Brand six joke is ish?
Speaker 15: Uh?
Speaker 4: Tell me man, Jerry Jones, when when.
Speaker 15: Will he ever learn he needs?
Speaker 2: I can't help you, Brad. Nothing's going to change nothing nothing.
Speaker 2: If you brought in Dion then maybe, but maybe that's
Speaker 2: why I didn't bring him in. Jerry wants all the credit.
Speaker 2: I mean you just go back to his fingerprints on
Speaker 2: the team when Jimmy was there, and that was you know,
Speaker 2: that created a real divide like that friction lasted decades.
Speaker 2: That's how deep it went. Somebody taking credit, he's getting credit.
Speaker 2: I deserve credit. Look at what I did. I don't
Speaker 2: think that's going away. Dan and Jacksonville, Hi, Dan, what's
Speaker 2: on your mind?
Speaker 3: Hey man?
Speaker 6: Five forty two.
Speaker 15: Just got a quick question with channeling the movie Moneyball.
Speaker 15: Is the NFL headed towards putting all their money in
Speaker 15: offensive defensive lines and having average quarterbacks and average receivers
Speaker 15: and still being successful.
Speaker 2: Well, no, these quarterbacks are so talented, the rules are
Speaker 2: catered to them. You're seeing so much athleticism now, everybody
Speaker 2: you know you, As Steve Young says, every single time
Speaker 2: Steve Young is on the show, he talks about, gosh,
Speaker 2: I wish I would be playing today. I was born
Speaker 2: too soon because you can take you you can utilize
Speaker 2: your arm and legs. And he said, it's so easy to.
Speaker 4: Do that now.
Speaker 2: But I think having an offensive line is going to
Speaker 2: make a quarterback look a whole lot better. It's hard
Speaker 2: for a quarterback to make an offensive line that's average
Speaker 2: look really good. But if you have a really good
Speaker 2: like the Eagles have a really good offensive line, they
Speaker 2: make Jalen Hurts look a whole lot better than what
Speaker 2: he is. In my opinion, When the Chiefs didn't have
Speaker 2: a good offensive line, Patrick Mahomes looked human. They have
Speaker 2: a good offensive line, so still the best weapon. It's important.
Speaker 2: Man can't stress that enough. Give me offensive and defensive lines,
Speaker 2: but I can have a good quarterback who becomes a
Speaker 2: great quarterback. I can have a great quarterback who's going
Speaker 2: to be an all time quarterback. That's what your offensive
Speaker 2: line can do. It gives you time. It gives you
Speaker 2: time to even if you don't have great weapons, you
Speaker 2: still have time to do something. You know, Brady, I
Speaker 2: don't know if the offensive line was great, but it
Speaker 2: was great for him, and he had just I mean,
Speaker 2: he got rid of the ball faster than anybody. There's
Speaker 2: a reason for that because he had to. But to
Speaker 2: be able to take advantage of your weapons, you gotta
Speaker 2: have an offensive line. And I think that that's always
Speaker 2: what I look for when people watch a game. I
Speaker 2: don't watch the quarterback take the ball. I watch the
Speaker 2: offensive and defensive line. I just want to see if
Speaker 2: somebody's coming up the middle, something happens, somebody falls down,
Speaker 2: somebody is coming around the edge. I kind of watch
Speaker 2: there and then watch the play. Probably not normal, but
Speaker 2: I'm just conditioned to watch these lines and what they do.
Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll have dour rankings, more of
Speaker 2: your phone calls as well.
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Speaker 2: Junior the Third went for fifty four. That's a career
Speaker 2: high thunder over the Jazz. First thunder player with a
Speaker 2: fifty point game since Russell Westbrook Junior the Third in
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen.
Speaker 14: Stall of a day, Stall of a day, Stalla a day,
Speaker 14: Stanata Day.
Speaker 12: This is the Stele of the day.
Speaker 4: And in case you sure wonder.
Speaker 2: According to DraftKings the odds to win the NBA MVP,
Speaker 2: it's Shay Gilgios Alexander minus five hundred. Next is the
Speaker 2: Joker at plus three point eighty. The Joker is still
Speaker 2: the best player in the game. But if they give
Speaker 2: it to Shay gilgis he's done a wonderful job. This
Speaker 2: team has been the best team in the NBA, or
Speaker 2: at least best team in the West. I have no
Speaker 2: problem with that. Sometimes, you know, you have to get
Speaker 2: to that point where you've earned an MVP, you know
Speaker 2: down through history. Hey, it feels like it's not your
Speaker 2: turn yet. It's almost like winning an Academy award. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know, not yet, and then all of a
Speaker 2: sudden you'll win and might not be your best year.
Speaker 2: But Jay gilches Alexander has been wonderful for OKAC and
Speaker 2: I think looking at the Nuggets now, they're over five hundred,
Speaker 2: maybe ten or eleven games over five hundred. He's averaging
Speaker 2: a triple double and that's just an O by the way,
Speaker 2: triple double and he does it before the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2: I think he has maybe ten triple doubles before the
Speaker 2: fourth quarter.
Speaker 8: Yes, marmun, this is going to be like al Pacino,
Speaker 8: not winning for the Godfather, but winning for Scent of
Speaker 8: a Woman, Like oh you want for that? Oh okay, yeah,
Speaker 8: but not the unbelievable performance that you have earlier.
Speaker 2: But I thought that the Nuggets did a disservice to Joker.
Speaker 2: They did not strengthen that team. And I don't think
Speaker 2: that team is anywhere near what it was when they
Speaker 2: won a championship. And Oka see getting Chad Holmgren back.
Speaker 2: That's a good team, a deep team, and you know,
Speaker 2: a run for a championship would be uh, pretty good
Speaker 2: for SGA.
Speaker 4: Yes, poem.
Speaker 6: How long have the Thunder been around as a thunder?
Speaker 6: Less than twenty years?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 6: Maybe seven?
Speaker 7: Eight?
Speaker 4: Well, Durant spent his rookie year in Seattle.
Speaker 6: Okay, so probably oh eight. This will be their third MVP.
Speaker 6: Durant got one Westbrook and SGA. Yeah that's a lot
Speaker 6: in a short wins. Pretty good, Yeah, pretty good?
Speaker 12: All right?
Speaker 2: Dower rankings, Now this can be an any sport. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna take the Lions off the list. Yeah, I have to.
Speaker 2: They had a really bad week. You lose, then you
Speaker 2: lose coordinators, and I would say they would be number one.
Speaker 2: They'd have a number one seed as the Dower rankings
Speaker 2: todd any sport Dower rank Who are you Dower on?
Speaker 9: I'm Dower on the Jaguars because they just seem very
Speaker 9: lost with this latest deal. You fire the coach and
Speaker 9: then a month later the j gone Trevor Lawrence is regressing.
Speaker 9: Hopefully that'll change, and they just seemed like a team
Speaker 9: that's lost and maybe they should just move to London
Speaker 9: altogether this point.
Speaker 2: Well, they'd still have to hire a coach. Like when
Speaker 2: you get there, and you'd still have to.
Speaker 9: It's just a confused mess and they really need to
Speaker 9: get that figured out before the draft.
Speaker 4: Seaton, who were you dower on? He dowered on Jimmy Butler?
Speaker 5: Oh, like dog, you had it figured out where you
Speaker 5: were this guy that nobody believed in, and then it
Speaker 5: is like, damn, Miami figured it out. Jimmy Butler is
Speaker 5: the guy. How about that? That's crazy. Look at all
Speaker 5: these people that had Jimmy Butler passed on and now
Speaker 5: all of this nonsense.
Speaker 4: Sure down on Jimmy Butler.
Speaker 2: Dan Levittard, voice of Miami Sports, will join his Top
Speaker 2: of the Hour get his thoughts on Jimmy Butler. He's
Speaker 2: certainly trying to he's not playing, but he's certainly his
Speaker 2: mannerisms at getting him out of Miami here.
Speaker 5: Yes, and it's crazy too. I mean he's he's made
Speaker 5: three hundred million dollars in his career. He makes fifty
Speaker 5: million dollars a year and it's probably not good enough.
Speaker 4: Maybe a little more.
Speaker 9: God.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's sad to see because you know, we thought
Speaker 2: it wasn't him. It was Minnesota wasn't him. It's Philadelphia
Speaker 2: wasn't him. It was the bulls Now. All of a sudden,
Speaker 2: it's not him, it's the Heat. There's one constant here,
Speaker 2: and it's Jimmy Butler.
Speaker 4: Marvin.
Speaker 8: I can't think of anybody else besides Jimmy Butler. Oh,
Speaker 8: and I definitely think this is gonna hurt in the
Speaker 8: long run because it's gonna be twenty years and the
Speaker 8: Heat still won't retire his jersey. It's gonna be something
Speaker 8: like Jimmy Johnson with the Cowboys. I think it's gonna
Speaker 8: hurt him long term.
Speaker 4: Here's still gonna be a Hall of Famer making three
Speaker 4: hundred million dollars. He'll be okay. Yeah, Paul Dower.
Speaker 6: This might be out of nowhere, but the Philadelphia seventy
Speaker 6: six Ers the past six or seven years, they always
Speaker 6: felt like a competitive contending team. They're fifteen and twenty seven.
Speaker 6: I didn't even know that. I don't pay attention to
Speaker 6: the Sixers day to day. They're borderline irrelevant and not.
Speaker 6: It doesn't look better Max. He looked like the future
Speaker 6: and man Dower fast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they had guys who got hurt, and you
Speaker 2: have embiid hurt. I mean that that's just a terrible situation.
Speaker 2: Moving forward, embiid. Can't play, I mean really can't play,
Speaker 2: can't play consistently. Then you're gonna have to pay him.
Speaker 2: I don't know what he's there on the hook for
Speaker 2: with that contract.
Speaker 12: Can't play, can't can't play, not low, can't you for three?
Speaker 8: Can't play?
Speaker 12: I was waiting for the stecred person. I can't use him.
Speaker 12: The Clippers could use him.
Speaker 2: It's Booty, Michael Oliva, Candy, get off CATCHEQUI can't play.
Speaker 4: They can't play. Slap that's another one.
Speaker 12: Four minutes a game. That's too much.
Speaker 14: Can't play Jonas Valatunism there that back uh Satan update
Speaker 14: the results.
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's see we got two of them up there
Speaker 5: right now. We have would you rather your team hire
Speaker 5: an offensive coordinator or defense? And that's at about seventy
Speaker 5: three percent with like an offensive coordinator. And then we
Speaker 5: also have who's coaching legacy changes more with a Super
Speaker 5: Bowl win this season? Andy Reid, Steve Spagnolo, Dan Quinn,
Speaker 5: Sean McDermott, Nick Sirianni, Kellen Moore find out after the break.
Speaker 4: Wow that's a team. Oh yeah, that's a tea.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Save that for Levatar and see if he's got the
Speaker 5: guts to weigh in on that.
Speaker 2: No, no, we just want Levittard to weigh in on
Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler. Nothing else. That's all two hours in the books.
Speaker 2: One more to go on this Thursday. Todd the Minister
Speaker 2: of Humor, seat and Marv Paulie yours Truly, we're back
Speaker 2: after this