1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: Welcome Inside with the Insiders alongside Judy Batista, Ian Rappaport, 2 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: Mike Garriffolo, I am Tom Pellicero. You might notice for 3 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: the loyal viewers of this program on NFL Network, things 4 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: look sound slightly different today. We're quad boxed up. It's 5 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit different, different format. But every Monday, 6 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: you still got the four of us. You still got 7 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: all the news information, all the analysis you need off 8 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: what we saw on Sunday and the week to come. 9 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: So thank you very much for being here. We got 10 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: a ton to get into. The most newsy Sunday morning 11 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: in week one that I can remember. We'll get into 12 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott's contract, Jordan Love and the latest on the 13 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: Packers of the next situation, and plenty more. But let's 14 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: start with the fact, Judy, that it's the day after 15 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: the opener and we're talking about the Giants quarterback and 16 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: Brian da having to answer questions and whether or not 17 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 1: he's making a change. That that summarizes. There were a 18 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: lot of things. There was some good, there was some 19 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: bad yesterday here, but the fact that we're already in 20 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: this position, what do you make. 21 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: I honestly did not think we were going to be 22 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: in this position quite this soon. But watching the game, uh, 23 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: I guess I'm not surprised that these questions have come up. 24 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: It was a dismal That's the only word that comes 25 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: to mind, just dismal performance. And by the way, it 26 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: was a dismal performance all the way around. Daniel Jones 27 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 2: were certainly going to talk mostly about but like everything stunk. 28 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 3: Like are you their duty? But nothing. 29 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: I was not at the stadium. I was watching it. 30 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: What I watched the whole thing. 31 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 3: It's her job, dude. 32 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 4: What I'm just saying, Like some Giants fans and they 33 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 4: for sure did not watch the whole time. 34 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: I'm in Minnesota, and because of the various TV restrictions, 35 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: I was stuck in the second half of that game 36 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: with that on the big screen got handsome the red 37 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: zone in my ear, I. 38 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: Had other stuff going. The worst part, can I just 39 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 2: interject us The worst part was that it was the 40 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: day that the Giants were honoring their one hundred season, 41 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 2: so they had a ton of their greats in the stadium. 42 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,119 Speaker 2: You know, Bill Parcells was there, and Tom Coughlin was there, 43 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 2: and Laurencedale or all of and so those people saw 44 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: it and wou to be a fly on the wall 45 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 2: during the. 46 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: Game a gallon of watery. 47 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 2: Coffee. 48 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 3: Also, Judy, remind me because maybe you remember Eli Manning. 49 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 3: It was Eli Day a couple of years ago. Yeah, 50 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 3: and they got absolutely thrashed that day. Yeah, there was another. 51 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 3: I think there was, like they honored a Super Bowl. 52 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 3: There was a couple. Every time they seemed to bring back, yes, 53 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 3: these players from the past. It's like the worst performances 54 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 3: that they put on, which only highlights how bad rights are. 55 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: I mean, this was like Friday night. They had this 56 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 2: really nice event and fans were there, but they did 57 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: fireworks and a drone show, and they had a ton 58 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 2: of the former players there again, and like what everybody 59 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: was saying at that party was please just let us 60 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 2: win on Sunday, right because there's all of these people 61 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 2: in the building, And that just heightened how poor the 62 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: performance was. I mean, they are not going to bench 63 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones yet, just to get to the bottom line, 64 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: They're not going to do that. Dave All said, No. 65 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 2: Part of the question is is Drew Locke ready to go. 66 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: He had the oplique injury in the preseason, and so 67 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: do you really think he's ramped up enough to play 68 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 2: if he had to. But I just don't think they're 69 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: there yet, right. I mean, I think that they feel 70 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 2: like they got to give this a little bit more 71 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: runway before they make the biggest decision. 72 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 3: I just go back to year one of Brian Dable. 73 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 3: He comes out strongly, win a game in Tennessee against 74 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 3: the Mike Rabel coach team, and he's pumped up. It 75 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 3: set the tone for the entire season. They got that momentuarily. 76 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: They won a game against the Pack in London early 77 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 3: and they got rolling this year. And I remember having 78 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 3: conversations with folks there who were looking at the schedule, saying, 79 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 3: you know, if we can get we got Sam Donald 80 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 3: week one, No disrespect to Sam, but it was Sam 81 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 3: Darnald week one, or JJ McCarthy at the time, but 82 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 3: it wouy not being Darnald. And then week two you've 83 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 3: got a rookie quarterback in Jayden Daniels, So like we 84 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 3: can come out of the gate hot, this is the 85 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 3: opposite of that. So if you got that in your head, 86 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 3: like we need to build off this early momentum like 87 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 3: we did two years ago, and you get the complete 88 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 3: opposite of it. It has the reverse effect of that 89 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 3: season that they had in twenty twenty two. So it's 90 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 3: just the scene everything up to and including, and I 91 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 3: don't advise this at all, the fans treating Daniel Jones 92 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:45,679 Speaker 3: the way they did on the way out of the building. 93 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: You know. 94 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 3: I I and Judy, Paul Schwartz and I had this conversation, gosh, 95 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 3: when was that the Giant? It was during the lockout 96 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 3: was twenty eleven, so that it's actually a while ago. And 97 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 3: the Giants were practicing at Bergen Cath at the time, 98 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 3: and they were being mocked by some of the kids 99 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 3: who were coming out of school. And Paul's like, when 100 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 3: I was a kid, Like if the Giants were practicing 101 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 3: at my school, I'd come out and like mouth, you know, 102 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 3: all on as. It's this era that we're in in 103 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 3: this social media and they feel like the access, they 104 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 3: feel like they see it on social media, so they 105 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 3: always have to kind of act that way and then 106 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 3: post the video. I feel like that kind of fuels 107 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 3: the whole thing. But it was just that was an 108 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 3: awful scene at the end. 109 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: There trash, So what did the Giants do? I think 110 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: that's That's the other point of this, which was, you know, 111 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: we saw their entire offseason obviously chronicled on the off 112 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 1: season hard knocks. You know, there's things like the Saquon 113 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: Barkley decision were always going to come down to, how 114 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: does it go for sa Kwon Barkley in Philadelphia look 115 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: great on Friday Night? Everybody saw all the memes and everything. 116 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: Saquon hope he doesn't, but like you get hurt, weak too, 117 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: Like we don't know how that's going to work out. 118 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: A big part of this, though, Judy was going to 119 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: always be Daniel Jones in the last guaranteed year on 120 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: that contract extension that he signed back in March of 121 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, that this was always going to be about, Okay, 122 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: this is kind of the last run, because let's be honest, 123 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: how many quarterbacks in the NFL did a full six 124 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: years without having really any significant level of success. They 125 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: did go to the playoffs a couple of years ago, 126 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: you know, we can't discount that. But it's not as 127 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: if you're having conversations about is Daniel Jones a top 128 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: ten quarterbacks? Is Daniel Jones an NFL starter at this point? 129 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: And we've seen many other teams with drafted quarterbacks move 130 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: on sooner than that. So if you're the Giants and 131 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,799 Speaker 1: you've got a pretty good history with him at this point, 132 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: you know what Daniel Jones is. You've also been hoping, hey, 133 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: with some of these new guys, elite neighbors, you're gonna 134 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: able to create more separation. You should be better, And 135 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: then you come up with that level of a flop. 136 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: I guess what I'm asking is, how long do they 137 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: go Let's presume here that Drew Locke is healthy. How 138 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: far into this do they get Judy before Brian Dable, 139 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: Joe Shane and company go, you know what, got to 140 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 1: try something different here? 141 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 2: Well, I don't think we know the answer to that yet. 142 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 2: One thing I would say is, and we say this 143 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: every year, like like week one is a liar, right, Like, 144 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 2: you can't overreact to Week one, especially you know the 145 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 2: way people do not play in the preseason, right Like, 146 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 2: there was a lot of sort of scratchy play yesterday, 147 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 2: especially by quarterbacks. Not as bad as the Giants, but 148 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: so you sort of have to say, all right, is 149 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 2: this the operation? And they're going to work their way in. 150 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 2: You know, obviously you would hope that they have a 151 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: much better performance next week against the Commanders. And again, 152 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 2: you know it's a favorite, you would think a favorable 153 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: matchup for them. They're going against a rookie quarterback who 154 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 2: himself struggled yesterday. So I guess I would say, we 155 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 2: don't know quite yet. Certainly, though, there was going to 156 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 2: be a point. I mean, if this, if that, if 157 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 2: we see that again multiple times, there was going to 158 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 2: be a decision made. 159 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 3: I do know. I heard pushback from that building when 160 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 3: the notion was put out there, Hyen, when the notion 161 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 3: was put out there that Drew Lack could push Daniel 162 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 3: Jones hie. So they defended him at the time, and 163 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 3: they made it clear internally that you know, he was 164 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 3: the guy, and they made it clear to him that 165 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 3: he was the guy. But as I look at their 166 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 3: schedule at Washington at Cleveland, their next home game is 167 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 3: a Thursday night game against Dallas, so in the National spotlight. 168 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 3: The next home game after that is a Sunday night 169 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 3: game against the Cincinnati Bengals. So the next two times 170 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 3: they are playing at home, they are in the National spotlight. 171 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 3: If you get a scene with fans leaving early and 172 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 3: the booze that we heard there on a national stage. Now, 173 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, that ratchets up even more pressure 174 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 3: on this team. 175 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: Well, Judy, so you said, you know, the Week one 176 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: thing is real because especially teams that might have new 177 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: coaches or they've switched schemes, and you see one team 178 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: come out and look great and their team will come 179 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: out and look terrible. You know, you tend to have that. 180 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: That's what sits I think in a lot of fans 181 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: mind certainly in the media's minds. In other words, regardless 182 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: ravings are the next three weeks. If a team is 183 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: not on national TV, you'd be like, boy, they look 184 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: terrible in that Week one game. But that's our real thing, 185 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: Ian is when you talk to people within the league, 186 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: there is that, hey, this is a longer season it's 187 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: ever been, Right, it's seventeen games. But it's hard for coaches, 188 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: whether you're with the Giants or you're with the Panthers. 189 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: You know some of the other teams. I mean, the 190 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: Bengals came out and didn't play well. But was that 191 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: real or is that a product of the various things 192 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: that are going on. You always have to have those questions. 193 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: But there's no doubt that the coaches who are with 194 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: those teams that struggled out of the gate have to 195 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: do flack of a better term, a little bit of 196 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,719 Speaker 1: damage control at times with the guys in their locker room, 197 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: just to make sure they know, hey, Okay, that was bad. 198 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 1: But this isn't college, or at least what college used 199 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 1: to be before we went to like a twelve team playoff, 200 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: where hey, you've still got time. One loss doesn't define 201 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: the season, like we can get this thing going right 202 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 1: for Well. 203 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 4: And there's two things I think about, and they're sort 204 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 4: of opposite examples. One is there was a Jaguars team 205 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 4: I think it was toward the end of Caldwell's tenure, 206 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 4: that won their first game, and. 207 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 5: I thought, and everyone was that last year year. 208 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 4: And then I think they finished one in fifteen, and 209 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 4: I remember being like, I, you know, I did a 210 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 4: lot of local radio, then I did Jaguars local radio, 211 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 4: and I'm like, well, a lot of people thought they'd 212 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 4: be bad, and they look good and it and then 213 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 4: they lost all the games and week one is like 214 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 4: the biggest liar of all time. The other one I 215 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 4: think about a lot, and this comes up when you 216 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 4: talk about the Panthers, and I was actually having this 217 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 4: conversation with Panthers people today. Is the Vance Joseph defense 218 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 4: to give up seventy points to the Dolphins a couple 219 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 4: of years ago, and we were all wondering, like, when 220 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 4: are the Dolphins going to fire fans Joseph Like he's 221 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 4: a good coordinator, but obviously something has to give. And 222 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 4: it's like they all took a deep breath and they 223 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 4: were like, you know what, we can figure this out. 224 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 4: And now the Dolphins defenses or the Broncos defense is 225 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 4: pretty good and pretty salty. Advance has this job and 226 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 4: has done a nice job, and they turned it around 227 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 4: that season. And so like Giants fans don't care, Panthers 228 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 4: fans don't care. Everyone sucks. I get it, But these 229 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 4: are like important things because like you do get better, 230 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 4: you do learn, and it really truly is a long season. 231 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: Well let's talk about the Browns. Okay, there's not a 232 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 1: lot of change for Cleveland. You have Deshaun Watson who's back. 233 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 1: He's playing from week one. He's coming off with significant injury. 234 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: They did have a lot of injuries on the line, obviously, 235 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: both starting tackles out Mike, but This was not for 236 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 1: the people who were sitting there going, Okay, finally it's 237 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: been four years, here comes the twenty twenty Deshaun Watson. 238 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: It kind of looked the same as it has. I 239 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: watched a lot of that game because in part I 240 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: was curious about Tom Brady as color commentator, and we 241 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 1: can certainly get into that a little bit later as well, 242 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: but I wanted to see how did the Cowboys come 243 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: off after an off season just full of stuff they 244 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: had nothing to do with football against a Browns team 245 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: and Deshaun Watson coming back. I didn't get the sense 246 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: watching it that this was all on to Shaun Watson. 247 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: But this is another team now that's going to have 248 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: to battle back against a little bit of Oh it's 249 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: the same thing all over over again. You know what, 250 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: what are we really going to get out of Watchston twenty? 251 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, and frame this with what happened in the off season, 252 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 3: And there's no denying it that the thought of bringing 253 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 3: Joe Flacco back after the way that he finished the 254 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 3: season last year would have been something hanging over to 255 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 3: Shaun Watson. If Joe Flacco was in that building yesterday, 256 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 3: not only would they be clamoring for him in the 257 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 3: week two. They would have been clamoring for him in 258 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 3: half two of that game. So they're they're trying to 259 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 3: give the Shaun Watson the best possibility or the best 260 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 3: runway here to set him up for success. And it 261 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 3: was about more than just the Shaun Watson. I mean, 262 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 3: the pressure was unbelievable. But even when he had time, 263 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 3: uh there was there was nobody open in time to 264 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 3: make things things happen. There was a Marii Cooper's expression, 265 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 3: which the body language police are always out when it 266 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 3: comes to NFL Sundays. And sometimes it's right and sometimes 267 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 3: it's it's it's not so much. 268 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 5: But a Marii Cooper, whatever body language expert. 269 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 3: I am not. No, no, I'm not that's not true. 270 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 3: But you know, body no, no, what what I find like, oh, 271 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 3: Amari Cooper's rolling his eyes at the play call. You 272 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 3: don't know what he was. But regardless of what his 273 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 3: body language there after he posted what he did and 274 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 3: when the rumors where he was going to be possibly 275 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 3: be traded, saying like hey, what mind it one bit? 276 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 3: This is all not good like this, this is again 277 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 3: the you know a lot of times, I know Ian 278 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 3: week one is a liar, but but this can also 279 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 3: set the tone for your season. 280 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 2: Except in this case, like you know, you're getting along 281 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: a bigger body of work. I mean it's it's still 282 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 2: a small body of work from Deshaun Watson as a 283 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 2: Cleveland brown But the more time that goes by, I 284 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 2: mean they said it on the broadcast, we keep thinking it, 285 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 2: when are they going to get the Houston Texans version 286 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 2: of Deshaun Watson. Well, you know we're four years out 287 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 2: from that season now, from the twenty twenty season, his 288 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 2: great season, and so now you wonder is there so 289 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 2: much distance even though he's he's still young. It's not 290 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 2: that many games. This was only his thirteenth game as 291 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 2: a Cleveland Browns quarterback, which is unbelievable to me. But 292 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, at some points you say, like 293 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 2: are they ever getting the Houston Texans version or is 294 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 2: that guy gone? Because that's four years ago now. 295 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: Like he's sitting out an entire season. I guess maybe 296 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: for Trent Williams that would be the one exception, but 297 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: it's sitting out an entire season. No, he wasn't benefited. 298 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 4: He took a minute to get back to normal too, though, 299 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 4: Like he wasn't the best player in football and he 300 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 4: came back, but. 301 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: He got back, is my point. There's other guys like 302 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: I mean, Le'Veon was never the same after sitting out 303 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: a full season, Like you missed that tood twelve games 304 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: over three seasons because he didn't play at all in 305 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one either, Like that's that's a hard thing 306 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: ian to come back from that much miss time here, 307 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: and you know, let's remember, you know, Browns are locked 308 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: into him for another couple of years. It's fully guaranteed. 309 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: You know, he's he's there guy. I do think it 310 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: gets better. The pass protection was brutal Mikah Parsons with 311 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: the first time again back to the point of like 312 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: week one could be a liar know exactly what Mike 313 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: Simmer was gonna do with Michael Parsons. The answer was everything, everything, 314 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: all over the place. That was one thing that set 315 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: out to me from Tom Brady too, when he was saying, 316 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: they've got no answers, They've got no answers for the Blitz, 317 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: They've got no answers for Michael Parsons. That's what it 318 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: looked like. Kevin Stefanski is the two time Coach of 319 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: the Year for good reason. He will have a plan 320 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: moving forward here. But that was not, uh in the 321 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: way that you wanted to see the season start off 322 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: for Cleveland team that's really really talented. 323 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 4: And also you know as Ken Dorsey calling offensive coordinated 324 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 4: for the first time in Cleveland and new play. 325 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 5: I mean, there's there's a lot. 326 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 4: I think, uh that they have to get through and 327 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 4: I personally think, in my opinion, means very little when 328 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 4: it comes to football analysis, which I think is fair. 329 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 3: Uh. 330 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 4: News analysis is pretty good. Football analysis is not as good. 331 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 4: I think the Browns are going to be fine. The 332 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 4: defense is awesome. They made things really uncomfortable for a 333 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 4: Dallas team that I think is going to be an 334 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 4: offensive juggernaut like that was. That was a very uncomfortable 335 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 4: game for the Cowboys, like dak prescalod fine and they 336 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 4: won by a lot, but it was that was rough. 337 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 4: And but to me, like Deshaun was injured this past offseason, 338 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 4: didn't play in one preseason game the Browns unless they 339 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 4: lied to everyone, which I do not think they do, 340 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 4: said have told everyone you know through the roof Deshaun 341 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 4: Watson had a really good training camp really, really good. 342 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 4: I still think they're gonna be okay. I just think 343 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 4: it's like, and this sounds like excuse making, which I 344 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 4: don't know how it cannot be, But he missed so 345 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 4: many games, he didn't play in the preseason. 346 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 5: I think he's going to eventually get better. 347 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 4: I don't think that player, like, is he gonna be 348 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 4: that Texans quarterback that was like the best player in 349 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 4: football for seven games? I don't know, but I do 350 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 4: think it's going to get better. And I think he's 351 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 4: going to see things quicker in the fact that the 352 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 4: Browns have such a loaded roster and Jedrick Wilves will 353 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 4: be back and Conkling will be back and all those things. 354 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 4: I really do think they're gonna get better. And this 355 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 4: is I think we're gonna look back on him big. 356 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 4: All right, mate, there was a little more to that story. 357 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: All right, We gotta take a break here. More Insiders 358 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: coming up right after this. Welcome back to the Insiders. 359 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: Tom philliserro Jaivatiz to Mike Garatfolo, Ian Rappaport. We were 360 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: talkingfore the break about the grounds and the Cowboys game, 361 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,959 Speaker 1: the flip side of this, the Cowboys, the entire offseason 362 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,479 Speaker 1: we talked about a bunch of stuff that was not 363 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: football related. It impacted football in terms of the preparation 364 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: and training camp. It was no CD there. What's gonna 365 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 1: happen with Dak Prescott? What's this team gonna look like? 366 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: Everybody's picking the Eagles to win the division? They took 367 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: it to the Browns pretty good on both sides of 368 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 1: the football. Judy and I also think we should rewind 369 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: this for a second and go back to what happened 370 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: in the morning, because I can't remember a lot of vacation. 371 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: Maybe any where a team does a record setting contract 372 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 1: extension literally on game day and for anybody quarterback, this 373 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: is like holding this and it was done. No, they 374 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: were negotiating all through the evening into the morning. It 375 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: got the eastern kickoff. This this does not happen here, Ian, 376 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: go ahead. 377 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 4: No, let's say it's it's I saw one of the 378 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 4: reports that was like, well, you know, the the offer 379 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 4: that got this done was Thursday morning, and you know 380 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 4: as well as I do, Tom, that is for sure 381 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 4: not true. 382 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 5: Like this thing. 383 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: Definitely, there were several. 384 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 4: Points on Friday and Saturday when I think you and 385 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 4: I were both like this is not getting done. 386 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 5: It is just the thought is just. 387 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: Was always on. I always believed it was it was 388 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: gonna happen. 389 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 2: You were I feel like Jerry punked all of us 390 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 2: all off season. I feel like Jerry was just like 391 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 2: playing like with puppets and saying, like, look at them 392 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 2: jump like they're stressing over CD, LAMB and Dak and 393 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 2: Dak is gonna take it all the way to free agency. 394 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 2: This is hilarious. And then and I think the contract 395 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 2: like two minutes before the season kicks off. 396 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: I mean, CD probably could have been done weeks before. 397 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: There was a movement at the end, but that one 398 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: ended up getting done. It's like they kind of do 399 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: these things sequentially, where once CD was done, then it's 400 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: ramp up on deck. But I think this is a 401 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 1: good reminder every organization. Technically the owner can do what 402 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: he wants, but different people wheel power in different directions. 403 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: With Jerry Jones, there's layers. Obviously, Steven Jones is very involved, 404 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: will McLay is very involved, Todd Williams is every one 405 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: of the front office guys. There's different people at different 406 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: levels up. But when Jerry steps in and goes I 407 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: think I'm gonna do a deal. 408 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 3: Now. 409 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: The deal is probably getting done, and so for Dak. 410 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: The fact that it came down to the last second 411 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: mic maybe not a surprise. The fact that it went 412 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: to game day is a little bit unorthodox here, but 413 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: it's almost as if Jerry was watching everything else that 414 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 1: was happening. I was seeing it on a daily basis. 415 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: He said before. He likes you know, he thinks that 416 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: the pressure is a good thing on people. Well, apparently 417 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: he's nott enough through the course of training camp he 418 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: decided let's not go through the entire season with this 419 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: being the dominant storyline. They completely reset the market. It's 420 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: sixty million a year, it's on only a four year term, 421 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 1: which is shorter than a lot of the Cowboys deals do. 422 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: And he got one million more than Deshaun Watson in 423 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: guaranteed money. This was every metric. It was the perfect contract, 424 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: and they made this commitment to Dak Prescott before the 425 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: seal twenty twenty four goals. 426 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure there are other examples, and usually it's 427 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 3: the Saturday, it's the day before week one where there's 428 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 3: a blitz of contract extensions, but the morning of to 429 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 3: get this thing done is a rarity. The only one 430 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 3: that I can remember was Plexico Burris in two thousand 431 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 3: and eight, right before kickoff as the Giants for the 432 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 3: defending champions. He and Drew Rosenhause went upstairs in Giant 433 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 3: Stadium to get the deal done there. 434 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 5: And bring it down to the field. 435 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 3: Uh No, they actually went up to the office and 436 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 3: signed it like you do every contract. So that's the 437 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 3: only one I can remember, and that was like, you know, 438 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 3: a couple of hours before kickoff, kind of like this one. 439 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's it's uh. I was looking forward to 440 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 3: even if he did sign back with the Cowboys. Dak 441 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 3: Prescott as as he called him the most high profile 442 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 3: free agent in NFL history because he surely would have 443 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 3: gotten more attention on the open market than Tom Brady got. 444 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 3: So you know, Brady obviously was Brady as a free agent, 445 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 3: which is still crazy to think that he was a 446 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 3: free agent now four years later. 447 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 5: And a lot of people didn't want him, by the way, but. 448 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, there they kept that bleepity bleeper instead of him, 449 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 3: according to him, which we still don't know who that is. Yeah, 450 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 3: I did. I did find humor because I like Dak 451 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 3: and I think that. You know, other fan bases are 452 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 3: so happy when the Cowboys lose in January that they 453 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 3: they brand him a choker and they brand the team. 454 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: You know. 455 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 3: So I saw a celebratory video from uh Kyle Pagan 456 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 3: who worked for Crossing broad out of Philly, where he 457 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 3: recreated Ray Liota in the shower listening to the news 458 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 3: report of the Luftanza Heights. Great scene and he's slamming 459 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 3: the wall and he's instead of hold on jim instead 460 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 3: of Jimmy, he's yelling jer Ray and he's slamming the 461 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 3: wall the shower. That was very nicely done. 462 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: You now look out to free agency here as well, 463 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: and the number of teams that need quarterbacks here Dak was. 464 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it was the number one by far free 465 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: agent that was going to be on the board, which 466 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: is quite a part of why Ian was rooting for 467 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: because he wanted to ring six more months out of this. Now, 468 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, if if you're in the quarterback 469 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: market for twenty twenty five, the free agent guys are 470 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 1: like it's Russell Wilson and Justin Fields. Those are two 471 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: of them up at the top of the list. It's 472 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: all those other quarterbacks former high first round picks who 473 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: ended up on new teams. In terms of Zach Wilson, 474 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: Trey Lance, and Mac Jones, there's not like another clear veteran. 475 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: I mean, Sam Darnold played really well. 476 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 4: Sam Donald would Sam Donald has a chance to We'll 477 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 4: see what happens there, but he really does have a 478 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 4: chance to turn himself into like the darling of the 479 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 4: free agent class, especially because like and I know, Donald 480 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 4: sometimes doesn't look quite as good Ashen. It's a little messier, 481 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 4: but like he looks and Tom, I know you were 482 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 4: locked in on that game because you had no other 483 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 4: option but to watch it. 484 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 5: I thought he looked great. Uh. 485 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,239 Speaker 4: The other one, which its way too early to do this, 486 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 4: way too. 487 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 5: Early to do this. 488 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 4: But if since we are discussing it would be what 489 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 4: if the Falcons decide that Michael Pennix is the guy 490 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 4: early and then it'll all be all about who's going 491 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 4: to trade for Kirk Cousins, which we have plenty of 492 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 4: time to discuss that. 493 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 5: The thing that's interesting. 494 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 4: To me about the Cowboys and I don't I think 495 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 4: it's because everyone loves when they are when they lose, 496 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,239 Speaker 4: and this kind of skews all the viewpoints. But like 497 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 4: I had so many people ask me like, is Dak 498 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 4: even worth it? And I'm like, well, let's see, he 499 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 4: was an MVP candidate. He's a quarterback of one of 500 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 4: the best teams. He deals with more nonsense you could 501 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 4: ever deal with as a franchise quarterback, literally in the 502 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 4: history of the world. Because he's the Cowboys quarterback and 503 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 4: he had more leverage than any quarterback I've ever seen. 504 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 5: Is he worth it? 505 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like that's what the numbers should have been. I 506 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 4: don't think the Cowboys overpaid. I think they properly paid. 507 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 4: It's an amazing contract. And I would say this Judy, 508 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 4: and we can get to the Brady thing in a second. 509 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 5: The Cowboy. Yes, maybe Jerry played us a little bit. 510 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 4: The Cowboys got done what they needed to get done, 511 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 4: and the fact that to go to Longer is very Cowboys. 512 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 5: But like they had to do both of these things. 513 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 2: They had to do both of them. And that part 514 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 2: of the conversation leading you know, the whole summer was 515 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 2: all of these things are a distraction. How right? How 516 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 2: does that affect the football part of it? 517 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: Right? 518 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 2: They're distracted that you don't know what the future is 519 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 2: going to be like everything's in limbo, and then they 520 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 2: come out and just whip the Cleveland Browns on both 521 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 2: sides of the ball. So, I mean, I was watching 522 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 2: that game thinking like, oh, okay, I mean it's fine, 523 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 2: everything's fine, and you know, I'm sort of I'm like 524 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 2: wondering if that's what we're going to see from the 525 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 2: forty nine ers, you know, on Monday Night football, right 526 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 2: the whole off season of like, you've got these guys 527 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 2: holding out, they need contracts, they're not showing up, and 528 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 2: you know, and then they just roll out there and 529 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 2: hit play and they're fine. That's what I took away 530 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 2: from watching the Cowboys was the entire off season. We 531 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 2: thought there was chaos and distractions and I'm losing my 532 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 2: earpiece here, but you know, it affected them not at all. 533 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 2: They came out and they played a team we think 534 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 2: is going to be quite good this year that just 535 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 2: whipped them. 536 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: It's one of the most confounding things to me about 537 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: this offseason. And listen, I watched that playoff game against 538 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: the Packers like everybody else. It was, to paraphrase a 539 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,479 Speaker 1: player who one time years ago gave me the perfect description, 540 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: it was one of those games that goes to hell 541 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: immediately and there's nothing you can do about it. Everything 542 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: went wrong so immediately in that game and they just 543 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: first series. They come off the field and see these 544 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 1: down and the coaches are taking to him and it 545 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: was just a weird game. But there's a team that 546 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: won twelve games each of the last three seasons. I 547 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 1: understand they had some free agent losses. They didn't add 548 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: a whole lot upfront, but they brought in Mike Zimmer. 549 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: We've been one of the best defensive minds in football 550 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: for decades. They drafted well. 551 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 2: Who loves Mike Zimmer. Tom Brady loved Mike Zimmer. 552 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 5: As I thought, that's what you're gonna say. 553 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: Tom Brady also loved Mike McCarthy, and he kept talking 554 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: about how good the play calling was. It's, you know, 555 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, people don't talk about Mike McCarthy as 556 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: being one of the best offensive minds. Dak Prescott had 557 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: a career season last year, the first year with Mike 558 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: calling the plays. Now that's the next thing too that 559 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: we have to monitor here, which is, Okay, CD's done, 560 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: Dak's done. When does Jerry come to Mike McCarthy and 561 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: try to get him locked up too, because if Mike 562 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: were to end up else were his contracts up this year? 563 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 1: What are you bringing in for Dak at a time 564 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: that everything seems to be the arrows pointing up on him. 565 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: The are a really, really talented team. They've built that 566 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 1: thing to last. It's not the Cowboys of ten years ago, 567 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: where all of a sudden you just on a whim 568 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: you trade a bunch of draft picks for Roy Williams. 569 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: Like this is like a draft and develop style of program. 570 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: To get back to Tom Brady because he and I 571 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: know you want to dig into this too. I've seen 572 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 1: the headlines today of like he was, you know, like 573 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: a rookie, and it was awkward. Listen. There were times 574 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 1: where it seemed like his thought was kind of cut off, 575 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: either trailed off, or there was like a big pause. 576 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: To me, I haven't taught to Tommy is a friend 577 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: of the Insiders, of course, but I wonder if that's 578 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: the first time you've got a producer in your ear 579 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: for three hours straight. And at times he's like catching himself, 580 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: But in terms of the insight, he's willingness to be critical. 581 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: I personally Ian thought it was really. 582 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 4: Good I thought it was pretty good too, And I'm 583 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 4: kind of annoyed with this. 584 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 5: Whole thing. 585 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 4: Because and like I love all the media reporters like 586 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 4: Andrew Marsham's great, does a really nice job and training 587 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 4: it does a nice job. 588 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 5: But I'm kind of like, what were people expected, Like 589 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 5: was he going to be. 590 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 4: Like a tornado when Tony Romo started and he's like 591 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 4: calling all the plays and all this, Like that's not 592 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 4: what announcers are. 593 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 1: Like. 594 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 4: I love Gus Johnson. I love Gus Johnson. He is 595 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 4: the perfect college football announcer, but that's not really what 596 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 4: NFL announcers are like. It's more like kind of like 597 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 4: walk us through it, like they don't. There's not a 598 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 4: lot of yelling and there's not a lot of screaming. 599 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 4: There's some good analysis. And I wish he had been 600 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 4: in the production meetings because I think that would have helped. 601 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 5: But like I just I thought I was Brady chatting football. 602 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 5: Go ahead, Jude, and you watch it. 603 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 2: I have. 604 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. 605 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 2: I watched this specifically too because I had to write 606 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 2: a thing about Tom Brady which we read. Thanks if 607 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 2: there were times when he sounded nervous. 608 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: I'll take it. We'll take it. Firstly, Judy Ian hasn't 609 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: read his email in five years, so you think he's 610 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: digging into full stories on NFL dot com. 611 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 2: But he sounded nervous at some point, having said that 612 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 2: he was not in the best position. I think Fox 613 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 2: hyped this so much, and I understand why they did. 614 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 2: When you spend as much money and you have. 615 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 6: Tom Brady, like, I understand, you want to hype it, 616 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 6: but they made they made it so that there was 617 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 6: no way he was ever going to reach that level 618 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 6: in his first game ever calling a game live on television. 619 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 2: That's number one. They also got a clunker of a game, 620 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 2: right like, and that's always harder because then there's a 621 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 2: lot of pill You've got to fill a lot of 622 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 2: time without a competitive game, So that doesn't really play 623 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 2: to the strengths of the play by play guy Kevin Burkhardt, 624 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 2: who is fantastic or the analyst who could analyze stuff. 625 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 2: But you know it. So it came to be that 626 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 2: he had to repeat himself a lot because there wasn't 627 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 2: really anything happening in the game to generate new comments. 628 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 2: Having said that it's Tom Brady, does anybody think Tom 629 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 2: Brady is not right now? Drilling down on whatever the 630 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 2: producer pointed out to him, and is he's not going 631 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 2: to get better. 632 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's Tom Brady. 633 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 2: This is what he is. He's a grinder. 634 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: Hype video before a is he gonna be the greatest 635 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: commentator of all time? And there was also this type. 636 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 2: They also had a moment where they had sound from 637 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 2: Pat Summerle and John Matten, who are like the greatest ever, right, 638 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 2: Like you hear their voices and you're like, oh, NFL. 639 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 2: And then they came out and they were like and 640 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 2: now to Tom Brady, it's like, that's unfair. Okay, that's 641 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 2: come on, that's not fair to Tom Brady. So anyway, 642 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 2: the whole point, as our, as Andrew Marshen pointed out 643 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 2: in his column today and The Athletic, the whole point 644 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 2: is to get to the super Bowl, which Fox has. 645 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 2: He's got eighteen weeks to get there. He'll get there. 646 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 2: It's Tom Brady. 647 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 648 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 3: I didn't see any of this. I was in Atlanta 649 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 3: yesterday traveling back home, and I know, I know, like 650 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 3: you turn the TV on on Sunday and you see 651 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 3: a guy and then you turn on and he's home 652 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 3: and it's like, okay, well he's just in both and 653 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 3: it just snapped his fingers and was there there's travel involved, 654 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 3: and listen, I don't mean that, like even toward the 655 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,239 Speaker 3: average viewer, because the average viewer I don't understand, but 656 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 3: like somebody's in the business, like Tom Pellisaro should understand 657 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 3: and be like, why is nobody responding to me on 658 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 3: a group text? And I almost threw the phone from 659 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 3: Georgia to Minnesota at your head at the time because 660 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 3: I'm trying to travel to get back to the airport, 661 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 3: something about like nobody's answering me right now, and I 662 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 3: was like, get I almost left the thread, which is 663 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 3: like the ultimately. 664 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: If you leave the thread just sounds authentic. 665 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 5: A group thread. 666 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 3: I think it should be over what our relationship? 667 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, I got that. 668 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: There was an entire group thread that until recently was 669 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: named Mike Garriflo has left the chat, and I I 670 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: don't mean the building because Mike dropped out of a 671 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: group chat like a year ago and somehow somebody dug in. 672 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 2: But I don't. 673 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 3: I don't think I did that like as a you know, 674 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 3: screw this, I'm out of here. I think it just 675 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 3: happened accidentally. 676 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: No. Well, first, I know you did. 677 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 5: You were mad, Tom, you were in Atlanta yesterday. I 678 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 5: know we're talking about Brady. Since you didn't see it, 679 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 5: we don't even talk about it. 680 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,959 Speaker 4: That was interesting. I think on a couple of different levels. 681 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 4: You had the fields looking I thought pretty good. I 682 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 4: think Arthur Smith is really good. 683 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 5: Fields looked pretty good. Cousins not as good. Probably maybe 684 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 5: an understatement. 685 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: You know, it was the most predictable thing possible, though 686 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: you have a thirty six year old quarterback coming off 687 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: in Achilles who had no preseason reps with the first 688 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: time play caller. The Falcons talked up Mike for so long, 689 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna be good. We're not gonna be drafting high again. 690 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: Everybody's thinking, hey, they're gonna be playoffs. They're gonna make 691 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: noise in the playoffs. Like again, it's like the football 692 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: equivalent of Tom Brady in the broadcast. Both it's like, 693 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: this might be a little bit of a process, and 694 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: then obviously drafting that other guy changes the environment when 695 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: things don't get off looking like gangbusters. 696 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 3: I don't know which side this start on this on 697 00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 3: this this this game is one of the rare games 698 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 3: where he just I had too much. Like I sent 699 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 3: these guys after we were done on game day morning, 700 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 3: like here are all the names I didn't mention today, 701 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 3: And they were all huge storylines in their own right. 702 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 3: I just didn't get to them because I had quarterback 703 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 3: issues on both sides of this game and some other 704 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 3: stuff that was going on. So I'll start with the Falcons. 705 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 3: I guess when I was leaving the building and it's 706 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 3: week one, and Ian you talk about week one being 707 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 3: a liar, but I just just the general reaction media fans, 708 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins tone in the postgame press conference, it was like, whoa, 709 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 3: did we make a huge mistake in committing to this guy? 710 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 3: But I think drafting Michael Pennix invites that, right, so 711 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 3: you know what's gonna happen, and you better be successful, 712 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 3: you better be successful fast. And it didn't happen. And 713 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 3: I saw some numbers today about how stagnant they were 714 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 3: on offense. They didn't run a lot of motion. There 715 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 3: was a lot of talk about how they were in 716 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 3: the pistol and in the shotgun and really not doing 717 00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 3: things that you need to do from a variety standpoint. 718 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 3: So they are already alarm bells going off in Atlanta 719 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 3: after that performance yesterday. The other side of this game, 720 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 3: and I talked about this on game day morning, they 721 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 3: had the Steelers did already prepare a package of plays 722 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 3: for Justin Fields and he was getting reps with the 723 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 3: one so he was gonna be part of the game 724 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 3: plan anyway. So when they realized they were gonna have 725 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,320 Speaker 3: to pivot toward him as Russell Wilson suffered that calf injury, 726 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 3: it was like, Okay, we already have a base to 727 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 3: work with here that we've drilled. We just got to 728 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 3: expand that. We're also gonna you know, feed into what 729 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 3: he's more comfortable doing. And you saw a lot of that, 730 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 3: you know, a lot of the play action boots stuff 731 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 3: to kind of make things simplified for him number one, 732 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 3: also bring his legs into play and force the defense 733 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 3: to worry about both. So it's a really smart you know, everybody, Oh, 734 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 3: this is Mike Tomlin's worst team and this is the 735 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 3: year that the winning streaks or he's gonna have his 736 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 3: first losing season or whatever. It's not that simple. When 737 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 3: you've got a really good coaching staff that knows how 738 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 3: to put guys in position to succeed. I thought they 739 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 3: did a great job of that. And certainly when you've 740 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 3: got TJ. Watt recking things on the other side of 741 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 3: the ball, which the Falcon said they weren't gonna do, 742 00:34:59,400 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 3: it's exactly what. 743 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,919 Speaker 1: The biggest takeaway I had from the way that Justin 744 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: Fields played in that game was the fact that he 745 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: protected the football. And if you're talking about how the 746 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: Steelers want to play, how they want to win games 747 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, like always with Mike Tomlin, it's 748 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,280 Speaker 1: play good defense, run the heck out of the football, 749 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: make enough plays in the passing game to be dangerous. 750 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: They didn't make a ton of plays in the passing game, 751 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: but they did run the football a lot. I want 752 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: to say they had forty one attempts Mike in that game. Again, 753 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: you take away the fields rushing, the numbers don't look great, 754 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: but they committed to it. They continue to run the football. 755 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 1: They moved the chains enough to get by. Russell Wilson 756 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: was pushing to play. He said he could play in 757 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 1: that game. The doctors held him back. The Steelers are 758 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 1: historically conservative medical staff. This sets up interesting conversations now 759 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: through the course this week because. 760 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 3: What now, let them let them go. 761 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 5: No, I'm just saying, go doggy. I understand. 762 00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 4: No, I understand that Russell Wilson wanted to play. Didn't 763 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 4: we know on Friday that he was probably not going 764 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 4: to play. Didn't want him out there to do an 765 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 4: interview to say that he would try to play, just 766 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 4: so the Falcons would be like, like, is that no? 767 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,760 Speaker 1: I mean Russ is doing that because Russ really believes. 768 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 1: Like Russ could have a foot amputated and he would 769 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: still be like, I think I can go out there. 770 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: Can we give me a prosthetic, like I'm ready to go? 771 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,879 Speaker 1: Like Russell Wilson will always believe and this is real, 772 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: Like he will believe that he can do absolutely anything. 773 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: And so he's gonna be pushing again this week. But 774 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: it's only justin Fields. Mike through two interceptions in the 775 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,280 Speaker 1: game and almost cost him. Like Justin Field's played largely 776 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 1: mistake free football. The longer Russ is not on the field, 777 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: he certainly knows, the better the chances they go. You 778 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: know what, just keep healing up. They can use the 779 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,959 Speaker 1: injury as long as they have to. Much like last 780 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,359 Speaker 1: year where totally different quarterbacks in the room but it 781 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: was like, ah, Kenny's not quite ready yet, and then 782 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,760 Speaker 1: Picketts like, no, I'm fine, and they're still starting Mason Rudolph. 783 00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: That's kind of the give and take. And given everything 784 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 1: they went through last year, I don't get the sense 785 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: that Mike Tomlin's really sweating having any level of whatever 786 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 1: you want to call it a quarterback controversy here. 787 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 3: I first of all, and Judy backed me up on 788 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 3: this or don't. I mean's up to you whatever you heard. 789 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 3: But like it was closer than people thought. Number one, 790 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 3: and it wasn't the cleanest summer for Russell Wilson in 791 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 3: certainly the preseason and in training camp as well, so 792 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 3: there was some support for Fields in the building to 793 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 3: be the guy. And now you've got that opening. I 794 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 3: also thought it was really interesting that Russell Wilson came out. 795 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 3: He was the first, like I'm gonna be out there first, 796 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,280 Speaker 3: and I'm gonna throw a little bit before Justin Fields 797 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 3: even gets out there. I don't think it was nefarious. 798 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 3: I just think he was him trying to, you know, 799 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 3: in his mind, still be the starter, but also kind 800 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 3: of stand on the square a little bit. 801 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 1: We had other news through the course of Week one 802 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: including Well, initially looked like a pretty bad injury for 803 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: Jordan Love Friday night in Brazil Final Man of the Game. 804 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 1: I'm sure everybody saw it. He gets twisted in like 805 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:06,240 Speaker 1: seven different directions. Every social media doctor had different diagnoses 806 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 1: of exactly what it could be. 807 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,800 Speaker 4: Oh, this was the time to be a social media doctor. 808 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I'm not never mind, go ahead, And even. 809 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 7: People who are not doctors, even people who, oh my god, 810 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 7: you see the lea Yet there were a lot of 811 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 7: people in the league texting and going what about that 812 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 7: one video. 813 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: Well, in the end, by the time the Packers got 814 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 1: in the play they had a pretty good idea. They 815 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 1: knew it wasn't the a CL. You can tell that 816 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: you do the Lockman test, like you know very quickly 817 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 1: that that's not the a CL. They thought it was 818 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: probably an MCL. You're hoping there's not additional meniscus damage 819 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,240 Speaker 1: and other stuff like that. All the tests, to my knowledge, 820 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,399 Speaker 1: came back pretty clean. Matt Lafleur is pres converence today, 821 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 1: not even ruling out Jordan Love playing this week, which 822 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,320 Speaker 1: I mean there have been guys who played with MCLs. 823 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 1: You got to brace it up. Realistically, this is probably 824 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: a few weeks for Jordan Love. I was told three 825 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,359 Speaker 1: to six was kind of the initial online there's optimism 826 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,760 Speaker 1: it's gonna be back sooner than later. But Judy, despite 827 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 1: some social media speculation about who the Packers may or 828 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 1: may not have called, they didn't call Ryan Tannehill. They 829 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,800 Speaker 1: didn't try to acquire anybody else. Like, the only of 830 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 1: this is this is such a short term type of 831 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: a thing that hey, we trained from lake willis a 832 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,839 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. Let's give him every opportunity here. 833 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,359 Speaker 1: We might have to win with defense. You match went 834 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 1: with the running game. I just hope he can make 835 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: enough plays here. Bottom line, this was the best news 836 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 1: possible based on what it looked like for the Packers. 837 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 1: They just got to find a way to survive these 838 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,240 Speaker 1: next three, four, five, six weeks. 839 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always I always feel weird saying like whoa, 840 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 2: that was lucky, right, Like you lose your franchise quarterback. Okay, 841 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 2: they're very lucky and the whole This is another thing, 842 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,399 Speaker 2: not just the social media doctors and non doctors, but 843 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 2: then the social media general managers. Who are they gonna get? 844 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: What are they gonna do? 845 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 2: They gotta go get a quarterback. It's like they don't 846 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 2: have to go get a quarterback. He's barely gonna miss 847 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 2: any time in the scheme of this very long season. 848 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 2: They don't need to do anything. This is why you 849 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 2: have a backup quarterback who presumably has had access to 850 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 2: your playbook all this time and has run the plays. 851 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 2: Like you, maybe play a little bit differently for the 852 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 2: next few weeks, as you said, maybe you got to 853 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 2: win it with defense, you lean on your running game 854 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 2: and you know, just sort of how we were talking 855 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 2: about the Steelers, right, and the quarterback doesn't make any mistakes. 856 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,399 Speaker 2: You can win some football games that way, and that's 857 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 2: clearly what they're going to try to do. But yeah, 858 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,839 Speaker 2: I mean, just sort of hold the fort I mean, 859 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:35,320 Speaker 2: we're literally looking at two three weeks here. Any team 860 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 2: can get through two or three weeks that way. 861 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,879 Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing, though, he hasn't been there that long, 862 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 3: and there's been questions about him with regard to his 863 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 3: ability to do what he needs to do from an 864 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 3: NFL quarterbacking standpoint. So I think the most interesting part 865 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,400 Speaker 3: of this is that the Packers have the Titans in 866 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,359 Speaker 3: Week three, so you've got the Malik Willis revenge game 867 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 3: on deck here, which would be an interesting storyline to 868 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 3: follow there, and the Packers went into last season. I 869 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 3: guess it was sort of with the sense of like, 870 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,360 Speaker 3: we don't need to go out and get a veteran 871 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 3: behind Jordan Love, almost sort of Flacco ish type deal 872 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 3: to have him like look over his shoulder and have 873 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 3: somebody like, let it be known, Jordan Love, you are 874 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 3: our guy. We are this confident and you were going 875 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 3: to draft Sean Clifford. He's gonna wind up being your 876 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 3: backup quarterback. That was the plan coming into the into 877 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 3: this season, but he obviously didn't perform well enough. He's 878 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 3: still there as a member of the practice squad. So 879 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 3: this is kind of the table that they've set for themselves. 880 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 3: It is a short term type thing that they obviously 881 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 3: feel confident that they can work their way through. And again, 882 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,720 Speaker 3: if he's back on the earlier side of the timeline 883 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 3: that Tom laid out, they'll be just fine. It's all 884 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 3: about playing well at the right time of the season. 885 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 3: It sucks that you're starting you're doing this at oh 886 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,279 Speaker 3: and Wan and you feel much better at want to 887 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 3: know you would have given yourself a little bit more 888 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 3: wiggle room, but it didn't work out that way for them. 889 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I would say for me, there's always 890 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 4: a couple of teams, and I feel a little bit 891 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 4: nervous about the Packers because there's always a couple of 892 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 4: teams that sort of feel like they're fine at backup 893 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 4: quarterback and then realize they're not fine and have to 894 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 4: make a move like trading for Malik Willis is a 895 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 4: great example, and usually that never gets exposed because those 896 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 4: guys don't have to play. And then it's literally week 897 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 4: two and Malik Willis, as the floor just said, is 898 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 4: going to start. That's a little scary, and not saying 899 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 4: anything about Malik Willis sol though obviously did not earn 900 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 4: the number two job with the Tennessee Titans. Not a 901 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 4: great sign Mason Ruolf winning it there and now has 902 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 4: to play in an unfamiliar system. 903 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 5: Matt Lafleur is very very. 904 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,359 Speaker 4: Good, very very good, and I think we know that 905 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 4: because his offense is awesome, but also he helped Jordan 906 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 4: Love become the kind of franchise quarterback that he now is. 907 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 4: I think they're going to do a lot of things 908 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 4: for him, it's not a great situation for the Packers. 909 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 4: And to me, it's like, if I ran a team, 910 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,879 Speaker 4: which thank god I do not, I would spend all 911 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 4: the money possible on backup quarterbacks because you can't spend enough. 912 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 4: And this is an example. And I'm not saying it's 913 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 4: a spending issue. It's also a drafting Sean Clifford issue, 914 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,400 Speaker 4: but this is it's a little scary this way, and 915 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:11,839 Speaker 4: they have a lot to prove I think this week. 916 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 1: Well. The Packers also are a team that historically, this 917 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 1: is how they've handled the quarterback position, going all the 918 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 1: way back to Ron Wolf who trained Ted Thompson, who 919 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 1: trained Brian Goodekunz, who's the GM now, which was you 920 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 1: draft a quarterback, you add a quarterback every year, and 921 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 1: they've done that. They drafted Sean Clifford in the fifth 922 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 1: round last year. It was a surprise pick, but you 923 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 1: remember there was that run of quarterbacks in the twenty 924 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 1: twenty three draft. Sean Clifford was kind of one of 925 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,359 Speaker 1: those ones that a lot of people thought was going 926 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,400 Speaker 1: to be a borderline seventh or undrafted guy. They felt like, hey, 927 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 1: we got to go get him right now in the 928 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,720 Speaker 1: fifth This year, they drafted Michael Pratt in the seventh round. 929 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,240 Speaker 1: They looked at both those guys in the preseason and decided, 930 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,959 Speaker 1: you know what we need, we need something a little 931 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,319 Speaker 1: bit more here going out and just signing like your 932 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 1: standard issue veteran like last time. Remember the Packers really 933 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 1: doing that was like when Seneca Wallace came in right, 934 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:58,759 Speaker 1: and then Seneca Wallas had to play, and then he 935 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 1: immediately got hurt and then they were playing. I don't 936 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 1: remember the other guys were they had that they had 937 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,359 Speaker 1: to roll out there. For Milik Willis, I would say 938 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:06,720 Speaker 1: this because I got to know him at the Senior 939 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,720 Speaker 1: Bowl a couple of years ago. He is a very nice, 940 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 1: like bright kid who's gonna, like, you know, he's gonna 941 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,759 Speaker 1: light up the light up the room. He wants to 942 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 1: do good. He's super talented. Go back and look at 943 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 1: the highlights from Liberty. I mean some of the throws 944 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,839 Speaker 1: he makes are absolutely hillacious, But it's the doing it 945 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 1: consistently thing that's been really tricky. And he was coming 946 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 1: from a really really simplistic offense. You play for Mike Vrabel, 947 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,919 Speaker 1: you're a backup. At the end of that season. Remember 948 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 1: when Ryan Tannel got hurt a couple of years ago. 949 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,360 Speaker 1: They started Josh Dobbs. They got Josh Dobbs and started 950 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 1: him over Malik Willis. He's never really had anybody throw 951 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 1: their support behind him. Matt Lafleur is obviously trying to 952 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,359 Speaker 1: do that here, and it doesn't all have to be 953 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,800 Speaker 1: on Malik Willis's shoulders. They got a really talented roster 954 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 1: in Green Bay. Find a way. Let's say it's four games, 955 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 1: find a way to go two and two. You're right 956 00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 1: in the thick of this thing. You're where you want 957 00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 1: to be. Let's talk about some of the rookie quarterbacks 958 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 1: too that we saw make their debuts. Julie, I'll come 959 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,319 Speaker 1: to you first off here, Caleb Williams. This was not 960 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 1: the aerial show for Chicago yesterday. The offense was at 961 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 1: times tough to watch. Frankly, they were banged up at 962 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,719 Speaker 1: the wide receiver position through the course that game. They 963 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,480 Speaker 1: get a big play on special teams, they get a 964 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,240 Speaker 1: big play on defense. They find a way to win. Warrior. 965 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:25,440 Speaker 1: Initial impressions of Caleb Williams NFL regular season again. 966 00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:30,240 Speaker 2: They were the same as for Jaden Daniels and Bo Nixon. 967 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,719 Speaker 2: I feel like we all, and I include myself in this. 968 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 2: We get romanced by what we see in training camp 969 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,320 Speaker 2: and what we see in preseason games, and we're like, whoa, 970 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 2: they're so ready, and you forget that, like, well, they 971 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 2: look really ready against backups from whichever opponent, and you 972 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 2: know guys who are not going to make the roster 973 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 2: for the opponent, and so you our expectations are heightened. 974 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,880 Speaker 2: And then, as everybody in the NFL will tell you, 975 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,360 Speaker 2: it is different when the regular season starts. The speed 976 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 2: of the games is entirely different. Everything is different. And 977 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,440 Speaker 2: you saw that yesterday and I was just thinking, like, 978 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 2: this is what rookie quarterbacks look like, right, it is. 979 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 2: It is much more the aberration when a rookie quarterback 980 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:19,800 Speaker 2: does what c J. Stroud did last year than the norm. 981 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 2: I mean, this is what you know. Peyton Manning looked like. 982 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,919 Speaker 2: It turned out just fine. It doesn't mean anything bad 983 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:30,239 Speaker 2: about Caleb Williams or Jaden Daniels or Bonnix or anybody else. 984 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 2: They were rough, though, and they could not overcome. They're 985 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,879 Speaker 2: certainly not good enough to overcome whatever other dysfunction may 986 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 2: exist on their offense. 987 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 1: So. 988 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 2: Rough to start, I'm certainly not concerned about any of them. 989 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,240 Speaker 4: Well, the one I always think about is I remember 990 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,360 Speaker 4: it was like a late night Friday night game on 991 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:55,799 Speaker 4: NFL Network, and Mitch Trubisky was just lighting up the 992 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 4: defense and like the I think it was the second 993 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,480 Speaker 4: preseason game, just light them up, and I'm like, it 994 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:01,719 Speaker 4: was the. 995 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:05,920 Speaker 1: First preseason game. I was there. It was the first 996 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,440 Speaker 1: preseason game. It was at Soldier Field. Mike Glenning came 997 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 1: out and played like two series and just got his 998 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,360 Speaker 1: ass kicked, like just it was like batted balls and 999 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 1: getting hit in the pocket. Then Trubisky comes in and 1000 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,399 Speaker 1: made a bunch of throws like rolling to his right, 1001 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,239 Speaker 1: which turned out that was like the main strength of 1002 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 1: his game. So everybody started flushing him the left once 1003 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,600 Speaker 1: again into the real games, and he started a little 1004 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 1: bit more. I kind of I don't want to make 1005 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,240 Speaker 1: a comparison here, but I was thinking of that yesterday 1006 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,759 Speaker 1: because Caleb Williams, when you watch him, he's plainly at 1007 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,759 Speaker 1: this point more comfortable when he's on the run, when 1008 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,799 Speaker 1: he's moving. I mean, he makes some incredible throws on 1009 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,920 Speaker 1: the move. It's just that playing in rhythm, making the 1010 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,560 Speaker 1: making the checkdown, you know, going through the Reeds just 1011 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 1: getting the football where it needs to go. He can 1012 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,400 Speaker 1: make the spectacular play, but it's the consistency of making 1013 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,600 Speaker 1: just the mundane type of play. I think everybody knew 1014 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,880 Speaker 1: that coming out of USC that this was going to 1015 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 1: be part of it, which was there. He had a 1016 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 1: tremendous amount of freedom. They kind of let him free wheel. 1017 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,720 Speaker 1: He was the best player on the field at all times, 1018 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,239 Speaker 1: and given the issues USC had last year, he kind 1019 00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 1: of had to try to pull a rabbit out of 1020 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 1: the hat every single snap. Going to the number two 1021 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,120 Speaker 1: pick Mike with Jayden Daniels, I think we saw a 1022 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,920 Speaker 1: lot of good from him in a pretty tough game 1023 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,440 Speaker 1: for the Washington Commanders. You know, in terms of what 1024 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,640 Speaker 1: he does from the pocket, he's probably more polished than 1025 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,080 Speaker 1: maybe any passer in this draft in terms of just 1026 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 1: operating within rhythm. But he showed he get out, he 1027 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,319 Speaker 1: can make plays with his legs. He didn't get his 1028 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 1: head knocked off like Rock'm Socker Robots, which was every 1029 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 1: highlight that I saw last year at LSU, which is well, 1030 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,800 Speaker 1: what to play and then he like just gets murdered 1031 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 1: by a three hundred pound guy. It seemed like they 1032 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 1: had him at least playing within what they want him 1033 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,440 Speaker 1: to do there. You know, as a whole, the commanders 1034 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 1: are gonna have an Updill battle, if there's any question 1035 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 1: about that. But you had to like what you saw 1036 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:51,839 Speaker 1: from Jayden out of the game. 1037 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,319 Speaker 3: He's got to work on his slide there as part 1038 00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:56,960 Speaker 3: of the avoiding the contact. That was a little bit 1039 00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,880 Speaker 3: awkward with him doing that. Anybody else feel like the 1040 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 3: terrible Yeah, the lower third here, that's what we called them. 1041 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 3: The lower third feels like a fifth character on the show. 1042 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:06,319 Speaker 1: Here. 1043 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:07,959 Speaker 3: It's got like its own personality here. 1044 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,080 Speaker 1: I don't even know if he is that on the 1045 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 1: show or do we just see that the show. Just 1046 00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 1: that's the first time you think there's everybody you think. 1047 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 3: They're just giving us cues here. I don't know. 1048 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought maybe they're just reminding, you know, it 1049 00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:22,240 Speaker 1: deals something from research. 1050 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,919 Speaker 3: It feels like the bots have become aware down there, 1051 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 3: just the way it said Jade and Daniel's legs were 1052 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,240 Speaker 3: the lone bright spot. I was like, okay, lower third 1053 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:30,799 Speaker 3: fine there than. 1054 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,319 Speaker 1: The Twitter bots to now just respond everything from all 1055 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,399 Speaker 1: our shows being like wow, at guess way to get 1056 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,319 Speaker 1: your information on this show looks spectacular and there's like 1057 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,960 Speaker 1: one hundred of those on everything that we tweet it. 1058 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:42,600 Speaker 2: Now. 1059 00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, playing quarterback is not that simple though. You can't 1060 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 3: just you can't just plug in and expect something the 1061 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 3: production to come out to. So, you know, Jade and 1062 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:52,799 Speaker 3: I thought there were a few. Listen, you're going up 1063 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,320 Speaker 3: against a good defense and a really good defensive coordinator 1064 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,000 Speaker 3: as well, and Todd Bowles here, so you know which 1065 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,839 Speaker 3: is there. There's gonna be a generated thank you good. 1066 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:06,640 Speaker 1: It may be. 1067 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,719 Speaker 3: No, it should have said like screw you, Mike or 1068 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,680 Speaker 3: something like that. That would have been great. So yeah, 1069 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,600 Speaker 3: I and the Cliff Kingsbury's gonna put him in a 1070 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,719 Speaker 3: position to succeed moving forward. I think Jane Daniels may 1071 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,080 Speaker 3: put up like really good numbers. The Commanders may go 1072 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,600 Speaker 3: six and eleven, seven and ten, and at the end 1073 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,200 Speaker 3: of the season you may look at jayde and Daniel's 1074 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 3: numbers and go, wow, he had a really which could 1075 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,400 Speaker 3: put him in a position, especially now seeing as how 1076 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,919 Speaker 3: some of the other guys got off to a start 1077 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,280 Speaker 3: here in Week one, may put him in a position 1078 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,640 Speaker 3: to be the rookie of the year in the end here. 1079 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,680 Speaker 3: So I think the production is going to be there. 1080 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:47,440 Speaker 3: I thought he was pretty good at times yesterday, and 1081 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,360 Speaker 3: I thought he was seeing things look like maybe running 1082 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 3: was a little quick to get to that versus maybe 1083 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,359 Speaker 3: going through a little bit more of a progression. But 1084 00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,239 Speaker 3: I think there's something to work with there with Jayden 1085 00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 3: and Daniels. I'd be optimistic if I was the commander that. 1086 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,200 Speaker 4: The one thing I keep thinking about is everybody wants 1087 00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,040 Speaker 4: all the rookies to play, right, like every like even 1088 00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,120 Speaker 4: Drake May. It's like one of the Patriots gonna play 1089 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 4: Drake May. It's like, well, let's see Jacoby percent runs. 1090 00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,560 Speaker 4: The offense handled it fine, they won their first game, 1091 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:17,880 Speaker 4: Like okay, everybody wants the rookies to play, And even 1092 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,000 Speaker 4: for bo Nicks, who I think a lot of people 1093 00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,400 Speaker 4: believe is like the most pro ready knows the offense 1094 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,120 Speaker 4: can say it can get it in and out of 1095 00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,760 Speaker 4: the huddle, all the things like when you play rookies, 1096 00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,360 Speaker 4: except for CJ. Stroud, who ruined it for all of 1097 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,359 Speaker 4: that's just like Jamar Chase ruined it for first year 1098 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 4: receivers and his rookie year. 1099 00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:36,600 Speaker 5: This is what it looks like. 1100 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,839 Speaker 4: And the thing I can't get away from is like 1101 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,839 Speaker 4: this is what it's gonna be like all year, right, 1102 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,719 Speaker 4: Like the Bears are a great situation for Cale Williams 1103 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,720 Speaker 4: because the rest of the roster's good. Like that defense 1104 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,960 Speaker 4: is I think gonna be really good, really really good, 1105 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,839 Speaker 4: and Iberflush is a excellent defensive coordinator and head coach, 1106 00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:00,680 Speaker 4: but excellent defensive coordinator, So he's gonna be okay because 1107 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,799 Speaker 4: everything around him is good. But like going through this 1108 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:08,080 Speaker 4: week after week and fans who love these young quarterbacks 1109 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,800 Speaker 4: but have to watch them struggle week after week. 1110 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:15,960 Speaker 5: Is going to be a challenge mentally and physically. 1111 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,040 Speaker 4: And it's like this is the way to succeed, But like, God, 1112 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:18,960 Speaker 4: it's gonna be hard to watch. 1113 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:19,520 Speaker 5: Sometimes. 1114 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,560 Speaker 1: I didn't watch the whole Broncos Seahawks games. There are 1115 00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:23,840 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff going on in that window. And 1116 00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,960 Speaker 1: again I was tuned mostly into Cowboys and Browns, but 1117 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,319 Speaker 1: I didn't Judy. I didn't come away going boy Bo 1118 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,279 Speaker 1: Nixley's like he's in over his head. Yeah, he throws 1119 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:33,719 Speaker 1: that one bad pick. And I think it was Adam 1120 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,319 Speaker 1: Archalletta on the broadcasters, like you can't make that throw. 1121 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,400 Speaker 1: In the NFL, we saw Bo nix make some instinctive 1122 00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 1: plays too, that run to the goal line that he 1123 00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,000 Speaker 1: has late in that game. I think that's like the 1124 00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,040 Speaker 1: undersold thing I write, you know, ten thousand words about 1125 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,560 Speaker 1: the Rooky quarterbacks every year. There wasn't a lot of 1126 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,279 Speaker 1: talk in the bow Knicks Chunk this year about like, hey, 1127 00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,200 Speaker 1: you can really make things happen with his legs. But 1128 00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,280 Speaker 1: you did see it at Auburn, you saw it at Oregon, 1129 00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,479 Speaker 1: you saw it in his first NFL game. You don't 1130 00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,320 Speaker 1: want to go there a lot, but I literally I 1131 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:05,400 Speaker 1: pulled up the box score today. I listen. I'm not 1132 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,160 Speaker 1: saying that I'm an expert on everyone in the NFL. 1133 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,799 Speaker 1: Usually I know, especially at skill spots, I'm pretty good 1134 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:13,839 Speaker 1: with the names. A guy named val or Vella. I 1135 00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 1: don't know who this is. He led the Broncos with 1136 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:20,239 Speaker 1: eight catches yesterday, seventh round pick from Utah V E 1137 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,719 Speaker 1: L e. Is anyone raise your hand if you know 1138 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:24,799 Speaker 1: who that is. That was. 1139 00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,360 Speaker 3: Only because when they when they when they moved on 1140 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,320 Speaker 3: from Tim Patrick, I looked at their depth chart and 1141 00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,000 Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, these are probably any guys who 1142 00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:34,840 Speaker 3: are gonna make plays that they've seen and we just 1143 00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:35,640 Speaker 3: haven't heard of him yet. 1144 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:39,359 Speaker 1: Get eight catches. So my point in saying that, and 1145 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,960 Speaker 1: by the way, congrats to vell A or Vella. We'll 1146 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,479 Speaker 1: learn that as time goes on. Here is he's thrown 1147 00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,120 Speaker 1: besides Courtland Sutton, who was targeted a lot in that game. 1148 00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,759 Speaker 1: I think they only had four connections, but beyond that, 1149 00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:51,960 Speaker 1: it's all young dudes. And so you guys. 1150 00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:56,480 Speaker 2: Also yes, and it was also very short plays right there. 1151 00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,680 Speaker 2: His average yards for completion it was like something like 1152 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,520 Speaker 2: three something. I mean, everything was short. You know, it 1153 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:09,560 Speaker 2: wasn't aggressive like they were playing very conservatively. I mean, 1154 00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,200 Speaker 2: as Ian said it perfectly, this is what rookie quarterbacks 1155 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:14,000 Speaker 2: look like. 1156 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:14,120 Speaker 5: Like. 1157 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,480 Speaker 2: Everybody is like, you gotta play the rookie. Okay, this 1158 00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,040 Speaker 2: is what it looks like. And this is probably what 1159 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,160 Speaker 2: if if the Patriots had started Drake made. This is 1160 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,279 Speaker 2: probably what Drake may would have looked like to which 1161 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,920 Speaker 2: is which is why they're doing the opposite. I mean, 1162 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,399 Speaker 2: you want rookie quarterbacks in there, this is what you're 1163 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:30,279 Speaker 2: gonna get. 1164 00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,080 Speaker 3: The according to the official pronunciation guy that we get 1165 00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,560 Speaker 3: every year, which is the Handy Dandy. Uh pull it 1166 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,600 Speaker 3: up and get it quickly because everybody's on there, like 1167 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:41,160 Speaker 3: even like Patrick's certain just in case you forget, uh, 1168 00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:47,200 Speaker 3: everybody pronoun sorry see, and I'm looking at the pronunciation 1169 00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,680 Speaker 3: literally reading it commercial. You want to know how to 1170 00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:54,880 Speaker 3: pronounce this receiver's name, and I do. It is Devon 1171 00:54:55,880 --> 00:55:02,120 Speaker 3: Devon vle vayle like ple capital V e H dash 1172 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,120 Speaker 3: lowercase l e y so vley Right? Is that right? 1173 00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 1: Devon? This should be a this should be a running 1174 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,800 Speaker 1: segment name that we learned this week. Week one definitely 1175 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,640 Speaker 1: is more fertile ground, I think than a lot of 1176 00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,239 Speaker 1: other weeks. But there's always somebody who I'm like, who 1177 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:18,799 Speaker 1: is that guy? 1178 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:20,640 Speaker 4: You know what I did this week more than I've 1179 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,440 Speaker 4: ever done before, maybe because this offseason was so crazy. 1180 00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,839 Speaker 4: You're watching someone on the field and you're like, who 1181 00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:26,439 Speaker 4: is that guy? 1182 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:26,680 Speaker 1: Oh? 1183 00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:28,080 Speaker 5: Wait, he plays for them? 1184 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:29,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, you forgot who they? 1185 00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:29,359 Speaker 1: Wait? 1186 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,960 Speaker 5: Did I break that story that it happened so many times? Yesterday? 1187 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:37,200 Speaker 2: I definitely was. I found myself googling players like yesterday, 1188 00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:41,080 Speaker 2: like that happened multiple times where I was like who what? 1189 00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:41,439 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1190 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,439 Speaker 2: Yeah? Week one for us. 1191 00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,799 Speaker 1: Too, We didn't we were running out of time. We 1192 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,560 Speaker 1: did not get a whole lot to the injuries around 1193 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,399 Speaker 1: the league, but one Sean McVay is saying that Pokinakoa 1194 00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:55,120 Speaker 1: is a candidate for injured reserve because of that knee 1195 00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,480 Speaker 1: sprain that he suffered. Now for a Rams team that 1196 00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,839 Speaker 1: obviously has weapons, but Pookinakoa is a mass part of it. 1197 00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,560 Speaker 1: That's certainly going to be a situation to keep an 1198 00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:07,040 Speaker 1: eye on. The Panthers, who got completely boat raced by 1199 00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:10,200 Speaker 1: the Saints lose Derek Brown quite possibly for the season 1200 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,960 Speaker 1: to a moniscous injury. These are those those tough stories 1201 00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,000 Speaker 1: judy early on in the season where the ripple effect 1202 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,120 Speaker 1: that that can have across the rest of your roster 1203 00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,120 Speaker 1: can be fairly significant. And this is not Madden, it's 1204 00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,040 Speaker 1: not Fantasy football. You're got just jumping on the waiver 1205 00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,120 Speaker 1: wire and picking up a new starter. This is also 1206 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,080 Speaker 1: a situation where a lot of times it's just hey, 1207 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,520 Speaker 1: you drafted guys for a reason. You got to get 1208 00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:32,200 Speaker 1: ready to play. 1209 00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:37,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. This is the stinky part of the season, and 1210 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,920 Speaker 2: often the sinky part of Mondays, because this is we 1211 00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:45,040 Speaker 2: tend to get bad news on Mondays and hopefully they 1212 00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,200 Speaker 2: are out shorter than longer. 1213 00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,000 Speaker 1: Ian final thoughts, You're still paying attention. 1214 00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,359 Speaker 5: No, I okay, Well, that's it. 1215 00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:58,560 Speaker 1: That's that's the show. Then we're back on NFL Network. 1216 00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,239 Speaker 1: All right, so just really quick Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday seven 1217 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:05,840 Speaker 1: pm Eastern Time on NFL Network, Thursdays six pm Eastern 1218 00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:10,160 Speaker 1: time on Fast and NFL Plus and YouTube. This podcast 1219 00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:14,160 Speaker 1: will go up every Monday, roughly six pm Eastern time. Again, 1220 00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,960 Speaker 1: we're feeling this out, but thank you very much for 1221 00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:20,080 Speaker 1: being here across all these different platforms, all these different 1222 00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,320 Speaker 1: versions of the show. Look forward to talking with you 1223 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,800 Speaker 1: guys all again soon. See you