1 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Savor production of iHeart Radio. I'm 2 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: Annie Reese and I'm more Involve Obama, and today we 3 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: have an episode for you about spoons. And let me 4 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: tell you, this one goes all over the place, so 5 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: so delightful, so many places. I mean, I kind of 6 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,919 Speaker 1: knew it was going to be weird going into it, 7 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: and then I realized that I had not allotted myself 8 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: enough time for all of the weirdness. Like there are 9 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:45,599 Speaker 1: just so many little pockets of weird. Oh yes there are, 10 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: and we're going to touch on a lot of them. 11 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: But I was shocked by a lot of like, Oh, 12 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: I didn't I realized this was such a big deal, 13 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: or I didn't realize that this was the whole thing. Spoons. Spoons, man, 14 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: mm hmmm, um, well, I believe I've told this story before, 15 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: but spoons, specifically plastic spoons, got banned in my high 16 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: school because we had a game we played called spoons, 17 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: where the goal was to sneak a spoon, a plastic spoon, 18 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: onto somebody's person without them realizing Oh okay, okay, and 19 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: it got so out of control. One time I came 20 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 1: home and I took off this jacket, and you could 21 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,199 Speaker 1: hear the clattering of spirits like spoons in my hood, 22 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: spoons in my pocket, spoons in like the little buttonholes. 23 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: We had a teacher who was a very prim southern lady. Uh, 24 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: and one of our fellow students was able to sneak 25 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: a spoon into her ear ring, oh my goodness, into 26 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: her collar. She was like, we're putting an into this right, 27 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: oh wow. Yeah, And there was so weird. I know, 28 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: I don't know how it started. Uh, but there was 29 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,679 Speaker 1: a shortage of spoons because this was rampant, like everybody 30 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: was doing it. Uh. And you would get like extra 31 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: points for if you could get them like in certain 32 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: in certain places, like especially near their head, like anything 33 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: that was the cream of the crop. I was a 34 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: mediocre I was okay, but I was definitely not the 35 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: top of the game. All right, all right. I would 36 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: love to know if any other listeners like has anything 37 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: like this. Again, I don't know how it started. I 38 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: have my theories. You know, we certainly we certainly did 39 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: not in my high school. That is not something that 40 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 1: we got up to that I'm aware of. Maybe there 41 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: was a whole other subculture of spoons. Um. I don't 42 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: know subculture. It was why old like you would I remember, 43 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: I would go home. I'd like open my lunch box 44 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: and just spoon. Uh. This one does have this topic 45 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: does have a lot of fun cultural offshoots. Um. I 46 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: was just thinking before this of the movie Mimic, which 47 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: terrified me. I've watched it since I've been older, and 48 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 1: it's not as scary but when I was a kid. Yeah, 49 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: but there's this seame of spoons in there that stuck 50 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: with me. We'll say, huh, I do not. I have 51 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: not seen that movie in a very long time. If 52 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: you're curious, listeners, Mimic is a movie about big cockroaches. Um. 53 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: It scared me a lot as a kid. I could 54 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: not sleep at night for a while. There's also spoons, 55 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: the card game, which I loved playing with my cousins. Um, spoons, 56 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: the poem. The poems. I vaguely remember this. I'm sure 57 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: someone will right in, but it was in high school 58 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: we read about all these poems and spoon bill or something, 59 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: um anyway, and then the matrix of course. Uh, the spoon. 60 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: There is no spoon, there is no right right. Um. Yeah. 61 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: The the other one that came to me off the 62 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: top of my head was spoon, which is a reference 63 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: to the Tick. If if you have no idea what's 64 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: going on? Oh? I played the Tick video game, but 65 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: I don't remember. It's his like like like battle cry, ah, 66 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: good one, a good battle, very intimidating. Absolutely yeah yeah, 67 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: yes uh. And you can see our past episodes on sports, 68 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: sporks and chopsticks. Yeah yeah, I um, Annie and I 69 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: I thought, oh, man, have we done spoon yet? And checked, 70 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: and then suggested the topic, and then Annie proceeded to 71 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: check because we got burnt with forks, we did harder 72 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: to do it. And then we remembered wait because I 73 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: was showing up in my Google searchs that I had 74 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: already searched it, and I was like, yeah, yeah, we 75 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: had already done it. No fresh, fresh topic, fresh topic, 76 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: And I think we should get to our question because 77 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: we've got a lot to cover. Absolutely. Spoons. What are they? Well? 78 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: A spoon is a type of cutlery piece featuring a 79 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: small bowl attached to a handle. They come in pretty 80 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: much infinite sizes and shapes of both bowl and handle, 81 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: and are used in cooking and eating to stir like 82 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: a like a paddle, and to scoop, especially with foods 83 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: that are liquid or granular inform um, you know, and 84 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: anything that would be fussy or tricksy to pierce with 85 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: a fork or knife, or to a to pluck with 86 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: chopsticks or tongs. It's like a it's like a bowl 87 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: that you don't have to get your hand that close 88 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: to the food in order to use. Yeah, m hmm, 89 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: that's I mean, it's not like that. That's what it is. Um, 90 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: it's a really simple, really applicable tool. UM Cooking spoons 91 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: tend to be larger with longer handles, often about a 92 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: foot from a tip of bowld a tip of handle, 93 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: it's about a third of a meter, commonly made of 94 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: durable and heat resistant materials like wood, plastics, ceramics, or 95 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: metals like stainless steel. UM. Within the cooking category, you've 96 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: also got specialty spoons for like measuring volume, for ladling, 97 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: for straining, etcetera. Dining spoons. Table spoons can come in 98 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: many specific and specialty forms, but tend to be um 99 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: half of that size or less half the size or 100 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: less of a cooking spoon, and are most commonly made 101 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 1: of plastics, ceramics, or metals. These can be like a 102 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: little fancier, but are still most often durable and inexpensive. 103 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: Some specialty shapes include dessert spoons, which are smaller, drink 104 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: spoons which are longer, grapefruit spoons which have teeth along 105 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: the edge of the bowl. Very dangerous. Um, if you're me, uh, 106 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: you're already eating something quite acidic and so like, Oh 107 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: you can just there's all kinds of accidents just waiting 108 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: to happen. Um soup spoons that have deeper bowls, baby 109 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: spoons that are smaller and grippable again, et cetera. Uh, 110 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: and serving spoons are kind of a whole subcategory here. Like, 111 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: over the course of human history, people have invented just 112 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: a lot of types of of scoopy serving wear um 113 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: sugar spoons, salt spoons, caviat spoons, um demitas, or espresso spoons. 114 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: These are more likely as a whole to be made 115 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:01,679 Speaker 1: with more expensive and more embellished material reels, fancy woods, 116 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: precious metals, bone or shell, porcelain, stuff like that. Yeah, wow, 117 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: there's so many, there's so many rabbit holes we could 118 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: go down, because now I'm curious about table spoons. History 119 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: of that measurement. Oh, yeah, yeah. I originally I was 120 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: looking into measuring spoons and cups, but it's really I 121 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: think it's going to be a sticky, a sticky rereading episode. 122 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: So I was kind of like, nil, that's a later. 123 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: But also I keep introducing people to the HBO MAC 124 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: show Our Flag Means Death with the episode Yes serving 125 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: spoon kind of fiasco situation because it's my favorite one, 126 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: so I can appreciate it. I've been at the table 127 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: before and there's like seventeen spoons and I don't know 128 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: what to do. Generally, cheat code is you move from 129 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: the outside to the inside. Mm hmm, what's at the top? Oh, 130 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: those are for later, Those are for later. Those are lay. Yeah. 131 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: During the main courses, it's outside to inside and then 132 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: what's up top is usually for later. I can't imagine 133 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: the situation I will be in in the near future world. 134 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: This will come up. But thank you Lauren, just in case. 135 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: To be fair, that is a very a very bird's 136 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 1: eye um concept. I mean, I'm sure and I don't. 137 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: I never I'm not polite, I'm a I'm a goblin. 138 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: I never invite me to a fancy dinner, didn't you? 139 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: And I recently have a long ish conversation about the 140 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: difference between goblin and gremlin. At least the goblins is 141 00:09:53,000 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: a nicer Yeah. Yeah, oh goodness, this is what we 142 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: talk about listeners in our spare time. Huh um, okay, uh. 143 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: There there's also a whole category of spoons. We're still 144 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: doing an episode about spoons. Um that that aren't really 145 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: meant for eating or cooking with. Um. Collectible spoons, yeah, 146 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: and especially perhaps souvenir spoons. These are often on the 147 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: small end of dining spoons, around like three to five 148 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: inches long, that's about seven to twelve cis. These are um, 149 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: typically metal um, often made from or plated with precious 150 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: metals like silver, and then embossed and or engraved and 151 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 1: or painted or otherwise decorated with scenes or designs commemorating 152 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: an event or location or person or people. Yes, yes, yes, uh, 153 00:10:55,760 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: well what about the nutrition? You know? Okay, usually you 154 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: don't eat spoons. But but actually I've got a whole 155 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: note later in the history outline about edible spoons, So 156 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: I guess proceed with caution. Um. I like that. I 157 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: like that. That sounds about right. We do have some 158 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: numbers for you. Oh, we do. Um. The cutlery industry 159 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 1: as a whole is worth about a billion dollars a year. UM. 160 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: There are a number of spoon related world records. UM. 161 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: The world record for most spoons balanced on the face 162 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: is thirty one UM that was achieved in Serbia. The 163 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: record for most spoons balanced on the body is five um, 164 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: which was achieved in Iran just this year. Um. The 165 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: photos of this are really spectacular. It looks like this 166 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: gentleman has like a little like a little spoon capelet. 167 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: It's it's very fetching. Oh, I mean, spoon records being 168 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: broken all the time, you know, fantastic, right. Um. The 169 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 1: most expensive spoon in the world sold at auction for dollars. 170 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: It's a silver spoon made Circus by Paul Revere Jr. Um. Yes, 171 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 1: the son of that Paul Revere. Paul Revere was a silversmith. 172 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: He taught the trade to his son, and his son 173 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: is like the most of famous silver smith in American history. 174 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 1: WHOA yeah, okay, Um. And as as we're going to 175 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: get into further in the history section, UM, that collectible 176 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: spoon market is like a whole thing. Um. And although 177 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: most souvenir spoons are worth less than sixty dollars um. 178 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: Some go for thousands apparently. Ones with handles that are 179 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: shaped like stuff, and ones with them enameled or otherwise 180 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: decorated bowls are like fetch the highest prices. They're the 181 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: most popular with collectors. Uh. And the collections are wild. Um. 182 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: One woman has over a thousand Niagara Falls spoons. The 183 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: Lambert Castle Museum in New Jersey is home to the 184 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: world's largest collection of spoons, over five thousand, four hundred 185 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: of them UM, compiled by a woman by the name 186 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: of Bertha Schaeffer Pemple during her travels in the early 187 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: to mid nine dreds. Wow, yeah, I want to check 188 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: that out. They usually only have like about like twenty 189 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: five of them on display at any given time. UM. 190 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: But you know, I wonder I wonder if we could 191 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: like call him up and be like, hey, you think 192 00:13:55,440 --> 00:14:00,719 Speaker 1: we have that cloud? La, what are we going? We 193 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: got that good spoon cloud? You know I love it. 194 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: I love it, I do want to. I didn't get 195 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: to spend as much time as I wanted looking at 196 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: these collectible souvenir spoons, so that say on my list 197 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: that is definitely UM, like the rabbit hole, the visual 198 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: rabbit hole of the week. Yes, absolutely, uh. And it's 199 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,119 Speaker 1: fascinating how they came to be such a big phenomenon 200 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: at one point, and we're going to get into that 201 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: in the history section. Goodness we are, but first we 202 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: are going to take a quick break for a word 203 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: from our sponsors and we're back. Thank you, sponsor, Yes, 204 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: thank you. So other than knives, spoons are thought to 205 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: be the first utensils humans invented or I don't know 206 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: if invented as the right term, but like found things items, 207 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: they could you acted in that function. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 208 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: After our ancestors figured out stabbing of things, they needed 209 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: a tool for scooping of things. Um. And the shape 210 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: of the spoon was most likely modeled after the shape 211 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: of human hand when it scoops something like water. But 212 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: it is ideally more sanitary than actually using your hand. Ideally, Yes. 213 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: Tracing the early history of the spoon is tricky, um, 214 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: but the fossil record indicates that our Neanderthal relatives may 215 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: have used items like shells, chips of wood, or bones 216 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: as rudimentary spoons. And it's really interesting the etymology because uh, 217 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: you've got some twist and turns in there. But you 218 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: can see the roots of some of these. In various languages, 219 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: the term for spoon might mean might have been used 220 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: for the same word for like a chip, a wood chip, 221 00:15:55,960 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: or something. So sure. Yeah. The oldest known evidence of 222 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: spoons that fall under our more modern understanding of them 223 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: dates back to ancient Egypt circa one thousand BC. Because 224 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: of the materials used to make these spoons, things like 225 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: ivory and slate, and because of their designs, often including hieroglyphics, 226 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: historians suspect that these spoons might have been used for rituals. However, 227 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: wood was often frequently used to make spoons when the 228 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: intended use was as an eating utensil. However, the wealthy 229 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: and ancient Rome and Greece frequently used spoons made of 230 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: bronze and silver, as was the case in Europe up 231 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: until the Middle Ages. As far as we know, the 232 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: first documented reference of spoons in England took place in 233 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: twelve fifty, when the coronation of British kings involved anointing 234 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: them with the ceremonial spoon. Also around this time, spoons 235 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: of pewter became common for those in the lower classes. 236 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: I was reading that spoons were a thing in uh 237 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: in Britain that had been brought up with the Romans, 238 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: and that like that's kind of the first time. But 239 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how anyway, I don't know. Um. Over 240 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: the next century or so, bronze and brass and sheet 241 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: tin were also becoming common for the lower classes, but 242 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: using your hands was still acceptable and most of Britain 243 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: at the time. Um. That would change around the fifteen 244 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: hundreds when a few books on table manners were published 245 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: in England. Um, and that's when serving and eating spoons, 246 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: especially made of silver, came into wide use, especially for 247 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: the upper classes. But then uh, moving on down yeah, yes, 248 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: And then in England from the fourteen hundreds to the 249 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: sixteen hundreds, spoons became somewhat of a status symbol when 250 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: so called apostle spoons became christening gifts among the well off, 251 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: and fancy spoons, both in design and material, were an 252 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: indicator of wealth. In fact, the wealthiest folks often were 253 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: gifted with a set of twelve spoons and then later thirteen, 254 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: being the so called master spoon. Yeah. This whole thing 255 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: led to a tradition of christening spoons with the wealthy 256 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: gifting spoons made of silver or gold, while the lurd 257 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: classes gifted spoons of copper or brass. The phrase born 258 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 1: with the silver spoon in their mouth, meaning to be 259 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: born into a rich and privileged family, is believed to 260 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: have come from this practice, though it didn't pop up 261 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: in print until much later. And I believe in the 262 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: United States first, but that's where they think it comes from. 263 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: It was also customary and medieval Europe to have your 264 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: initials engraved on a spoon up through like the twentieth century. 265 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: UM it was pretty common for people to own and 266 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: carry personal cutlery sets, especially when traveling, and so right 267 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: engraving your initials on them would have been uh, kind 268 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: of a no brainer. Rights Beginning in the eighteen hundreds, 269 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: a European fat collecting souvenir spoons absolutely took off, thanks 270 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: largely to American tourists who would purchase these spoons with 271 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: the names of cities or landmarks they visited and graved 272 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: on them. And I have on my grandparents. Uh, they 273 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: went to London when I was like on eight or nine, 274 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: and they came back and they gave me a spoon. 275 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: I think it has bucking and palace on it. I 276 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 1: still have. I tried to find it because I recently 277 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: visited my mom and it's it's somewhere about there. I 278 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: couldn't find it, but I remember it because I was like, 279 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: in this case and it's small. The year old me 280 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: didn't get it. Sure yeah, um okay. This the souvenir 281 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: spoon thing was part of a bunch of other cultural 282 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: moments because the Industrial Revolution brought a whole lot of 283 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: advancements in metallurgy UM, including mining and producing silver, molding 284 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: and stamping metals, and electric plating, and this really expanded 285 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: the availability of silver and other precious metals UM and 286 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: at a time when an urban middle class was developing 287 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: purchasing power. I I get the idea that because spoons 288 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: were this traditional gift, producers and consumers just glommed onto 289 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: that UM. Throughout the eighteen hundreds, the silver baby spoon 290 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: was also changing due to changing attitudes towards children. Previously, 291 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: children had been thought of as just small adults, and 292 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: thus these gift spoons for for babies were just small 293 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: spoons with like small versions of adult designs. But there 294 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: was this movement UM to redefine kids as being like learning, 295 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: growing human beings with their own sets of needs. During 296 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: the eighteen hundreds, Um, and these baby spoons developed too, um, 297 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: becoming redesigned for easier grip and decorated with like mother 298 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: goose rhymes and other newfangled children's cultural staples. Um. We've 299 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: talked about this some in our Brothers Grim episodes and 300 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: uh Lewis Carroll stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 301 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: By eighteen eighty nine, souvenir spoons were being produced in 302 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: the US, first by Gault and Brothers of Washington d C. 303 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 1: With their offering of a spoon featuring George Washington's profile 304 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 1: in honor of the anniversary of his presidency. Okay, A 305 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: Martha Washington spoon became available soon after in year round 306 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: about there, one of the most famous souvenir spoons ever designed, 307 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: fueled a national obsession with souvenir spoons that endured until 308 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: World War One. Okay, so I want you to take 309 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: a pause. I want you to guess what you think 310 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: this spoon depicted. All right, Okay, got it in mind? 311 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, alright, alright, here we go. Uh. Okay. So, 312 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: after a visit to Germany eight nine that involved the 313 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 1: purchase of several unusual souvenir spoons, jeweler Seth F. Low 314 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 1: Return learned to the US and designed one of his 315 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 1: own for his father's company. He described the design as depicting, quote, 316 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: the raised figure of a witch, the word Salem, and 317 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: the three witch pins of the same size and shape 318 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: as those preserved in the courthouse at Salem. Yeah, Salem 319 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: which spoon? Okay? Is that what you thought? You think? 320 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 1: I I I assumed something patriotic. Uh I I'm not sure. 321 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, like a like a famous building, or 322 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: like a bell, or like a rock. Maybe I'm not 323 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: I know what you mean? This that sounds funny, like 324 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 1: a famous rock. You know? You know? I got you. 325 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: Just sounded funny. Now I'm with you. I didn't really 326 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: have a specific thing in my patriotic vein. I was 327 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: not expecting Salem which spoon? No, I mean, but I 328 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: love this. I love that. I love that everyone. I 329 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: love that everyone's always been into into spooky stuff. That's great. 330 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 1: That's spooky, spoony stuff. Yes, I did not see that coming. 331 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 1: But Low trademarked the design and went on to sell 332 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: several thousand spoons. Um they are they are still being 333 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: traded on the collector's market. By the way, they are 334 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: worth about a hundred dollars today. Dang okay. Well, this 335 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: whole thing led to a massive bump and interest for 336 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: these collectible spoons. The souvenir spoons in the kind in 337 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: this country. In the US only produced and sold a 338 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: handful of them, but in less than two years, hundreds 339 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: of designs are being produced across the country, showcase cities, 340 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: historical figures, and important events. As part of this books 341 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: about collecting these spoons were published, which I love um 342 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: and at the Chicago World Fair. This fair really boosted 343 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: their profile. According to some sources, more souvenir spoons were 344 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: produced for this event than any other in history. An 345 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: estimated twenty seven million visitors were exposed to these spoons. 346 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: I could really get a sense of like how many 347 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 1: they produced the most. I'm assuming most of them got 348 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: taken by these visitors, but I could be a good 349 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: handle on that. But that's a lot of people seeing 350 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: these spoons, potentially. Yes. At the same time, the US 351 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 1: was in a period of industrialization and experiencing a growth 352 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: of wealth, allowing for more spoons to be produced more efficiently. 353 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: And for more people to buy them. On top of that, 354 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: the silver market collapsed in the early eighteen nineties, making 355 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 1: it more afford well for Americans to buy commemorative silver spoons. 356 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 1: For three decades following this, pretty much every major event 357 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: offered a souvenir spoon, but World War One really decimated 358 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: the interest in an ability to offer these spoons. Um, 359 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: which is just fascinating to me because that's not a 360 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: thing that like, other than my grandparents giving me that 361 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: one spoon, It's just not something I've been exposed to. Yeah, 362 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I've I've been I've been in 363 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 1: touristy places in a gift shop and have witnessed a spoon, 364 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: But I certainly wasn't like, yes, that's the thing I'm 365 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: going to purchase, So I never really paid that much 366 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 1: attention to it. I don't know, I don't know. Yeah. Um, 367 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: I feel like the next time that we do, like 368 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: an Orlando theme park trip, we need to look out 369 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: for this kind of thing. Um. I Also, I feel 370 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: like you at theme parks are busy like maximizing the 371 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: number of rides that you can go on, and I'm 372 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: looking at literally everything and every gift shop going like, hm, hmmm, 373 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: do I have a friend who needs this overpriced trinket. 374 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: That's why we worked so well together. I'll just text 375 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: to you and be like, have you found Do I 376 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: need to make my way to a store Like they 377 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: have spoons, Annie, and I would understand. Heck. Um anyway, Uh. 378 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: With further developments in materials science, and specifically with plastics 379 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: around World War Two, UH, plastic spoons were developed in 380 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: the UM. By the nineteen fifties, inexpensive, mass produced and 381 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 1: even disposable spoons and other cutlery were being produced. UM. 382 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: The development of disposable cutlery coincided with with the growth 383 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: of fast food joints in America and and also with 384 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: the conspicuous consumption and convenience cultures of nineteen fifties suburbia, 385 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: so they really took off. UM. Certainly though other plastic 386 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: spoons were meant to be more permanent UM. You know, beautiful, colorful, 387 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: durable pieces in shapes and sizes that are easy to 388 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: do with molded plastic but would be pretty expensive in 389 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: any other medium. UM. And this this included the expanding 390 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: category of children's dinnerware, going back to baby spoons again. Um, 391 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,479 Speaker 1: though those silver spoon might still be an early gift. 392 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: Kids from like the late nineteen hundreds on have often 393 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: eaten with a large, lightweight, soft edged, colorful often co 394 00:27:54,600 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: branded um inexpensive plastic wear. Yes. Actually, my younger brother, 395 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: whom I was very jealous of when he was born, 396 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: he had a super cool Mickey Mouse balloon spoon. I 397 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 1: coveted it, all right, I still remember it. I was 398 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 1: like four years old. I remember the spoon. I think 399 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 1: the only novelty spoon I don't. I don't think I 400 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: had any growing up, or if I have, I've forgotten them. 401 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: But I do have one. I have like a like 402 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: a lightsaber spoon from from when the when the Prequels 403 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: came out. Uh. It does not light up. It does 404 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: not light up anymore. It certainly does not. I definitely 405 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: washed it at some point. Um. But yeah, yeah, um, jealous, jealous. 406 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: I guess there's still time for me. Uh. We should 407 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: talk about plastic spoons and plastic cutlery in general have 408 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: done some massive damage to the planet. Yeah. Um. As 409 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: of twenty nineteen, disposable cutlery was a two point six 410 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: billion dollar a year business. UM and plastic utensils were 411 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: the seventh most collected plastic trash on beaches. Just for example, UM, 412 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: more than a hundred million we're being used in the 413 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: US every day. UM. They're difficult to recycle, can take 414 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: a thousand years to decompose, and many are made with 415 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: types of plastic that can release harmful compounds when they're 416 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: exposed to heat. So not great. Not great all around, 417 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: UM and some some countries and other municipalities have been 418 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: working on neither banning them or diminishing their use. France 419 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: was the first country to ban plastic cutlery in as 420 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: one alternative of and as promised earlier, UM, there is 421 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: edible color e made of starchy stuff like corn or 422 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: wheat brand UM, and the market for it is growing. 423 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: Apparently as UM it was worth more than two point 424 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: six million dollars a year UM, with spoons being the 425 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: largest segment at about of that market. They are the 426 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: easiest to manufacture due to the relatively simple shape. UM. 427 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: Some of these are even UM flavored with things like 428 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: like black pepper to compliment like like Bland airline food 429 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: or what have you. Yeah, I think I've seen these 430 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: in the kind of hiking campings. Yea, yeah, and I 431 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: we've talked before about another thing I've seen in recent 432 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: years when you order delivery. Now there's that option to 433 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: be like, please do not send so much. I got it. 434 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: Yeah right, I'm meeting this at my house. I have 435 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: I think the only I'm the only time I've ever 436 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: not gotten it automatically was when I happened to be 437 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: helping a dear friend move into her new place and 438 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: she did not have a speck of cutlery in there, 439 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: and and the like, the like delivery Indian feast that 440 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: we ordered had zero zero cutlery. Um. Oh no, there's 441 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: a lot of strategic non usage that evening. Oh yes, 442 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: nice right right. Um uh. Meanwhile, that this is this 443 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: is bouncing around a little bit in the timeline of 444 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: the past of twenty years or so twenty thirty years. 445 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: But um, but a couple of cultural notes to end 446 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: us on so UM the the surreal and or parody 447 00:31:55,320 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: comic book series The tick UM aforementioned UH later a 448 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,479 Speaker 1: cartoon later a live action show. UM began as a 449 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: comic store newsletter stick in the late eighties. UM and 450 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: the Superheroes famous battle cry was first written in issue 451 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: number seven originally published and if I might quote so, um, 452 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: the Tick and his trusty sidekick Arthur are are sitting 453 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: enjoying a meal, and the Tick has a spoon and 454 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: he just suddenly goes spoon. Arthur says, are you all right? 455 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: I'm fine, Arthur spoon. I like the word. It's got 456 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: a nice ring to it. Henceforth, it will be my 457 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: battle cry. You're what my battle cry? The cry I 458 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: admit just prior to leaping into battle, I'm a grizzled 459 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: veteran of superhero battles. Now I need something catchy to 460 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: yell out during them, something that will endear me to 461 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: the public. Spoon mhm. And yeah. With that that a 462 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: battle cry was born. I have to say, if I 463 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: heard someone just cry out spoon, it would give my attention. 464 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: I don't think i'd feel fear. I think it would 465 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: be a general like confused. Yeah, yeah. I I believe 466 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: later in the issue, when they are, you know, doing 467 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: battle right, that the Ticks scream spoon and uh and 468 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 1: the bad guy is like what and then it gets 469 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: like like clotheslined. So I mean confused effective exactly exactly, 470 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: and he's not wrong. It's a good word. I like it. 471 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: Oh heck UM. Other cultural notes UM, the band spoon 472 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: Formed Matrix came out in nine and introduced everyone to 473 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: write Spoonboy and the There Is No Spoon UM and 474 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: the essay UH The Spoon Theory, written by Christine Miser 475 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,720 Speaker 1: and Dino Um was published in two thousand three. And 476 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,720 Speaker 1: this is the idea that UM that people with chronic 477 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: illnesses UM and other disabilities have like a limited number 478 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: of metaphorical spoons at their disposal every day, and every 479 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 1: task that they do requires the use of a spoon. 480 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: And sometimes you just run out of spoons, and UM, 481 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: there's nothing you can do about it, and you need 482 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: to rest to replenish your your spoon supply. M hmm, yeah, 483 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,399 Speaker 1: I've heard of that. I'll have to look more into 484 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: that one. UM. And then I meant to look this up, 485 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 1: and then I didn't. I forgot. But spooning in terms 486 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: of the cuddling between two people who are laying on 487 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: their sides. You know, you got your EXPOONI your a 488 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: little spoon. UM. Apparently this has been around longer than 489 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: I would have guessed. According to a quick search, UM 490 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: that this might have started in the seventeenth century. In Wales, 491 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: um which involved spooning involved a love spoon and intricately 492 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: wooden spoon given by a young suitor to a woman. Um. Yeah, 493 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: so again kind of playing on that like this was 494 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: when that gifting of spoons was popular. So from there 495 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: that might have influenced the terms which was any type 496 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: of affectionate our flirtatious behavior and then became kind of 497 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: this like nestling playing alongside each other. So interesting. I 498 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: thought that was a fairly recent Yeah, I would have 499 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 1: assumed that was very recent. But but huh cool the 500 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: so it is like in our more recent terms like 501 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: the twentieth century, but it has a long history of 502 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: being associated with sort of flirtatious or love activity. Yeah. Yeah, 503 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: what a weird episode this one has. I'm telling you, 504 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,959 Speaker 1: we have gone all over the place and I really 505 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: enjoyed it. Um. It has. It has a lot of 506 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: things that I love, A big fat of collecting spoons. 507 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 1: Um that had a surprise home run in there of 508 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: the Salem witch trial. Spoon uh, movies and the tick 509 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 1: I haven't thought about a long time. A band which 510 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 1: I'm convinced I've heard at least one song from, but 511 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 1: I can't recall what it is. I think it's likely 512 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 1: I suspect you have I suspect, So I'm gonna look 513 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 1: into it afterwards because I feel like there's one song 514 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 1: in the back of my brain that's like, no, you 515 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: used to love this song. I can't remember what it 516 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:06,720 Speaker 1: is again, all in an episode about a fairly simple 517 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 1: your chancel. There you go, there you go. I can't wait. Listeners. 518 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: If you've got these spoons, these collectible spoons, you have 519 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: to send us pictures notes. We've got to know. Oh, 520 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 1: oh absolutely, I need every collectible Spoons story you've got. Yes, yes, 521 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,959 Speaker 1: In the meantime, that's what we had to say about 522 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:36,720 Speaker 1: spoons for now. It is. We do have some listener 523 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 1: mail for you. But first we've got one more quick 524 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:51,479 Speaker 1: break for a word from our sponsor. We're back, Thank you, sponsor, Yes, 525 00:37:51,560 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 1: thank you, And we're back with the spons It's like 526 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: the cheesy superhero voice. Yes, I can't. I used to 527 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 1: play the Tick video game. I want to know if 528 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:14,240 Speaker 1: anybody else remembers that. Yeah. Cool, that's that's an episode 529 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: we should do. The video games inspired by these companies 530 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:24,240 Speaker 1: have put out that inspired by food and food Oh yeah, 531 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,359 Speaker 1: Oh man, I don't know if the tick was specifically 532 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: trying to sell us spoons, but who knows could have been. 533 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: I love that idea. I love so much the idea 534 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 1: of someone being like, all right, you know, you know 535 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 1: what we can really push in the in the children's 536 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 1: children's commerce market, spoons. What can we do for it? 537 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 1: The tick? Obviously it's clear. I like I said, I 538 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,760 Speaker 1: wanted my little brother's I still remember it, so yeah, clearly, 539 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: clearly this is this is I think you're touching on something. 540 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 1: I said. There's a whole spoon seitegeist out there that 541 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:17,280 Speaker 1: is possibly underdeveloped. That's true, that's true. All right, Kristen wrote, 542 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 1: I was listening to my local International Food Stores podcast 543 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 1: a few months ago. The topic was on local aquaponics company, 544 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 1: root House Equaponics. I would love to learn more on 545 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: this topic if included a link to the podcast. If 546 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: you ever decided to come to Cincinnati Jungle Gym's, it's 547 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 1: a must stop foodie paradise. What other grocery store is 548 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 1: a podcast studio in the middle of it. Oh that's 549 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 1: so cool. That is cool, and I am fascinated with aquaponics, 550 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 1: so oh yeah, I definitely would love to talk about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 551 00:39:53,760 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, definitely definitely added to our added to our list. Um, 552 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,439 Speaker 1: I think there should be podcast studios everywhere. I'm still 553 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,319 Speaker 1: really enchanted with that time that I freaked out the 554 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:11,320 Speaker 1: podcasters who were who are working in um that local 555 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, there's a pizza place in Brooklyn with the 556 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 1: local food station. Oh man, I'm totally forgetting the name 557 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 1: of it right now. Anyway. Yeah, I was like, oh, 558 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to take pictures of the studio, and they 559 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:26,360 Speaker 1: were like curtain clothes. I was like, oh, sorry, buddies, 560 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 1: I'm here for podcast convention. That's all right, thanks. Um 561 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 1: it was pretty good. It's pretty great. Um who um 562 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 1: Bart wrote, I take my coffee very seriously, so I 563 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,320 Speaker 1: really loved your recent instant Coffee episode. For a little context, 564 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 1: this is what my kitchen counter looks like. There's a 565 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 1: regular kettle for tea, a temperature controlled one for coffee 566 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,280 Speaker 1: to burg grinders so I can have espresso and regular 567 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: beans available at all times, and an array of coffee makers, 568 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: including a well war an air press, a well loved 569 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 1: Moka pot, a stainless steel French press I've broken so 570 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 1: many glass ones, and a ceramic filter holder for poor overs. 571 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: It probably comes as no surprise that I looked down 572 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,399 Speaker 1: my nose at instant coffee for years, but a few 573 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 1: years ago that changed when I discovered flavored, artisanal instant coffees. 574 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 1: No instant coffee can taste as good as a fresh brew, 575 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 1: so I found a small UK company that doesn't fight 576 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,839 Speaker 1: that fact, but leans in by adding a dazzling array 577 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,719 Speaker 1: of flavors. We always have two jars open at home, 578 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: one I pick and one of my hobby picks, and 579 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 1: now that I'm back in the office halftime, I have 580 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 1: a third open in my desk drawer. Right now, I'm 581 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 1: enjoying chocolate orange at work. My home pick is Christmas Pudding, 582 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,880 Speaker 1: and my hobbies pick is Turkish Delight, tasty coffee in 583 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 1: seconds that even a coffee snob can love. I love 584 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 1: modern tech. Wow, Yeah, fascinating. I know we didn't touch 585 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 1: too much on the artisanal stuff. We did a little bit, 586 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 1: but this, this is interesting. It sounds delicious. Yeah, because 587 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 1: I I generally looked down my nose at flavored coffees, 588 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 1: but a I like chocolate orange and Turkish Delight are 589 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: two of my favorite things, and I kind of want 590 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 1: to try a coffee that taste like those. Yeah. Yeah, 591 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:28,399 Speaker 1: I'm really really intrigued by this. I love this too. 592 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 1: I love the you've got your work coffee home coffee 593 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 1: because I think we can relate. Laura and I have 594 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 1: my fancy coffee, and I like I'm in a hurry coffee, 595 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 1: like I have all these different oh yeah, oh yeah. 596 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 1: I usually like I usually grind my own beans, like 597 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 1: if it's a special occasion, I have other beans that 598 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 1: I might grind, and I might use them in a 599 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 1: French press instead of a pour over. Like my two 600 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: roommates both really use the coffee machine, so like if 601 00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,879 Speaker 1: I'm making coffee for all of us, that's what I use. 602 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,400 Speaker 1: It's a whole I do also usually keep like a 603 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 1: tin of like half a Postellos and we're on hand 604 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,920 Speaker 1: in case I just really need that likelf like right 605 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 1: to your eyeballs, like kind of yeah, yeah, yeah. I 606 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,399 Speaker 1: It's funny because, as I mentioned, I for a long time, 607 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,360 Speaker 1: I would just drink I just need a caffeine and 608 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 1: the taste of sort of secondary. I've sort of moved 609 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 1: away from there, but I had a friend who would 610 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:29,280 Speaker 1: come over. She hated the coffee options. I had bought 611 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 1: me a coffee machine, and now I bought my mom 612 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 1: a coffee machine because she doesn't drink coffee, but she 613 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:43,320 Speaker 1: has like packets that have gone like the crystals have clumped. 614 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm going to buy this, leave 615 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 1: it here, So the circle is complete, the coffee circle. 616 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:59,320 Speaker 1: But yes, um loving hearing all of these coffee thoughts 617 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:04,320 Speaker 1: so good. H well, Thanks to both of those listeners 618 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,239 Speaker 1: for writing in. 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