WEBVTT - The Karol Markowicz Show: Can New York City Make a Comeback?

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people give a lot of bad advice

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<v Speaker 2>on the internet, but I've noticed a particular trend recently

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<v Speaker 2>that I think is just really prevalent and it's spreading, so.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to address it. It's what gets told to

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<v Speaker 1>women who yearn to get married and have a family,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just some of the worst advice around. In

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<v Speaker 1>the British newspaper The Independent, a woman wrote in saying

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<v Speaker 1>the following quote. I'm thirty one and have been with

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<v Speaker 1>my boyfriend for twelve years. He is my favorite person

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<v Speaker 1>in the world, but I have spent the past year

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<v Speaker 1>devastated by the realization that he is never going to

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<v Speaker 1>ask me.

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<v Speaker 3>To marry him.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't agree with marriage and hates the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>a day full of attention. All my girlfriends are married,

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<v Speaker 1>and although I'm so happy in my relationship, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but compare and despair every time I go to

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<v Speaker 1>a wedding. I lost my dad when I was very young,

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<v Speaker 1>and also feel sad and unreasonably bitter at the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that most of my friends get it all. A dad

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<v Speaker 1>and a husband, a father of the bride speech a

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<v Speaker 1>perfect white wedding. I know I want to grow old

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<v Speaker 1>and gray with my boyfriend, and we both.

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<v Speaker 3>Want children soon.

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<v Speaker 1>But I still feel sad about the wedding that we're

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<v Speaker 1>not having and the memories that we're not making with

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<v Speaker 1>friends and family.

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<v Speaker 3>Please help me. End quote.

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<v Speaker 1>The column is called Dear Dolly, and Dolly responds with

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<v Speaker 1>just about the worst answer I can imagine. She starts

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<v Speaker 1>out talking about how romantic weddings are and how even

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<v Speaker 1>she Dolly, has gotten caught up in that, despite the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that she herself does not want to get married.

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<v Speaker 1>Dolly writes quote, I'm sorry it's causing you such distress.

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<v Speaker 1>I know of other women who have been put in

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<v Speaker 1>your position, and they too were surprised at how much

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<v Speaker 1>it bothered them. I admire how clear eyed you are

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<v Speaker 1>about what it is. You want a big, traditional wedding

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<v Speaker 1>where you and your partner's relationship is celebrated. And it

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<v Speaker 1>seems obvious to me that because of his personality type,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not something he would find enjoyable. This doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>seem to be about his commit meant to you. End quote. Uh, yeah, sure.

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<v Speaker 1>The Brits have this thing where you can bet on

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<v Speaker 1>just about anything, what color the princess will be wearing,

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<v Speaker 1>what celebrity will die this year, and so on. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd placed the bet that if this couple broke up tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>he'd likely marry the next person he dates. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>well worn path that many people have taken before him.

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<v Speaker 1>Dolly goes on, quote in your longer letter, you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>that he says he doesn't want to get married because

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<v Speaker 1>it is a patriarchal institution. End quote. I mean, lol, Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>he won't marry her because of the patriarchy.

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<v Speaker 3>What a good guy. There was a time where.

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<v Speaker 1>Men said they wouldn't marry their girlfriends until their gay

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<v Speaker 1>friends could marry. Lena had Dune him, the actress's longtime boyfriend,

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<v Speaker 1>famously said this, and then gay marriage became legal and

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<v Speaker 1>they still didn't get married. Fight the patriarchy, right, Do

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<v Speaker 1>whatever your boyfriend wants to do, and don't make him

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<v Speaker 1>have to consider your feelings. Girl power. Dolly gives her

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<v Speaker 1>some tips on talking to her boyfriend about maybe having

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<v Speaker 1>a non traditional wedding, and then says, quote, another thing

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<v Speaker 1>you may want to consider is a big birthday. A

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<v Speaker 1>wedding is not something I dream of, But a big

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<v Speaker 1>birthday has become a shining day in my calendar year.

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<v Speaker 1>For my thirty fifth I wore a Vivian Westwood dress

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<v Speaker 1>black not white, and took some friends for dinner on

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<v Speaker 1>a canal boat. My best friend made a beautiful speech.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone got up to no good. It was wonderful. Why

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<v Speaker 1>not redirect your wedding longing into a big birthday party?

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<v Speaker 1>Be utterly shameless about it. Ask your boyfriend to make

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<v Speaker 1>a toast by yourself a ridiculous outfit. Tell your best

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<v Speaker 1>friend your favorite flavor of cake. Let yourself enjoy the

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<v Speaker 1>celebration and attention you long for. Let yourself be showered

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<v Speaker 1>in the love and silliness and fuss that you deserve.

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<v Speaker 1>Do it completely on your own terms. You may wake

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<v Speaker 1>up the next day to find an itch.

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<v Speaker 3>Has been scratched.

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<v Speaker 1>End quote. And that's just completely misreading what this woman wants.

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<v Speaker 1>She wants the traditional picture of the wedding and the marriage,

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<v Speaker 1>a big birthday party, be serious. She says specifically that

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<v Speaker 1>she's jealous her friends get to have it all, dad

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<v Speaker 1>and a husband. She wants what women have wanted for

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds and maybe thousands of years. The questioner is not the.

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<v Speaker 3>Weird one here.

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<v Speaker 1>The people gaslighting her into believing she shouldn't want this

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<v Speaker 1>because of the patriarchy or whatever. Are the ones rewriting

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<v Speaker 1>something basic and obvious. People want to tie themselves to

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<v Speaker 1>each other in front of their friends and family. They

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<v Speaker 1>want the wedding, yes, but they want the marriage. They

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<v Speaker 1>want what has worked and not the latest thing that

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<v Speaker 1>probably won't. Coming up next, an interview with New York

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<v Speaker 1>City Councilman Joe Borelli. Join us after the break. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio. My guest

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<v Speaker 1>today is Republican leader of the New York City City

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<v Speaker 1>Council and generally decent human Joe Borelli.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi, Joe, how are you? Great to see you?

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<v Speaker 3>So nice to have you on counselman anytime.

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<v Speaker 4>I just I wish I was where you are right Noway.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish you were where I was also, But somebody

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<v Speaker 1>has to hold it down in New York City, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Been you for many years. Now. How's it going?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, we're still floating. Things are okay. Things are

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<v Speaker 4>not as bad as I think they were maybe a

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<v Speaker 4>year ago, and you know, six months ago even so,

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<v Speaker 4>there's some positive news. Crime is ticking down just slightly.

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<v Speaker 4>The migrant crisis is abetting itself ever so slightly. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 4>now we're seeing the convergence of the crime and migrant

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<v Speaker 4>crisis in the form of some high profile incident instead

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<v Speaker 4>of occurred. But other than that, the city financially is

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<v Speaker 4>doing okay, and we'll still be here I think in

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<v Speaker 4>a decade or so.

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<v Speaker 3>So how is the migrant crisis a betting itself?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, just from the news, it seems to not

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<v Speaker 1>be a betting itself.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the number of people in our care not only

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<v Speaker 4>stayed at about hundred seventy thousand people, but it trickled

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<v Speaker 4>down ever so slightly. So we've been molemented a sixty

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<v Speaker 4>day eviction process, which has seen some results. We've also

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<v Speaker 4>stopped leasing new hotels. More people have gone into tents.

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<v Speaker 4>It turns out people don't like to stay intense for

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<v Speaker 4>too long, so eventually it works out where they work out.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting, Okay, I get that.

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<v Speaker 1>So one thing that I asked everybody on this show,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel like asking a New York City council

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<v Speaker 1>and you might have extensive answer, But what would you say,

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<v Speaker 1>is our largest societal problem and is it solvable?

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<v Speaker 4>You know. So I saw your question when you emailed

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<v Speaker 4>me this, and I wanted to say something entirely predictable,

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<v Speaker 4>but I'm going to not do that. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 4>say something that I think is the case. And it's

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<v Speaker 4>kind of a deep, dark secret that maybe I think

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<v Speaker 4>this way. I actually think it's our sense of entitlement,

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<v Speaker 4>because that is, it's a broad disease that infects every race, color,

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<v Speaker 4>and creed, and especially younger people. But I think it's

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<v Speaker 4>this sense of entitlement as to what people are owed

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<v Speaker 4>when they wake up in the morning that is going

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<v Speaker 4>to make the US long term less competitive than anywhere else.

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<v Speaker 4>And I just never understood it, and I've seen it

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<v Speaker 4>in my you know, twenty years as a professional person

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<v Speaker 4>with a job where you know, when I started in politics.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, when I started in politics, my first job

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<v Speaker 4>was an intern, and then after college, my first job

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<v Speaker 4>in politics was to hang posters around town. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>just you know, literally taking a stack of heavy posters

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<v Speaker 4>rolled up and walking from business to business and introducing

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<v Speaker 4>myself and giving a pitch for this candidate I was

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<v Speaker 4>working for at the time, and like that was that

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<v Speaker 4>was how you started. Now, I mean people won't even

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<v Speaker 4>volunteer for a campaign, and I put air quotes in

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<v Speaker 4>volunteer unless they're paid, and they're paid well and they're

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<v Speaker 4>getting a minimum wage. We just had a unionizing effort

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<v Speaker 4>by the staff of the City Council where now legislative

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<v Speaker 4>staff is unionized. And again I'm not opposed to you unions,

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<v Speaker 4>but these are fundamentally at will employees. These are people

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<v Speaker 4>who are you know, I get elected glect where we

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<v Speaker 4>gets elected. Yeah, we're in charge of hiring people that

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<v Speaker 4>are part of their team, and they're at will employees.

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<v Speaker 4>But now they're unionized and there's an entitlement that they

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<v Speaker 4>get at regular raises. Not to mention just what people's

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<v Speaker 4>expectations are coming out of college, what people's expectations are

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<v Speaker 4>in terms of government support. Look at the migrant crisis.

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<v Speaker 4>We've always had migrants, right, New York City has always

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<v Speaker 4>had immigrants, migrants, legal, illegal. Ever you kind of wear

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<v Speaker 4>in between over the past, you know, four hundred years

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<v Speaker 4>of our city sixteen twenty five, almost five hunred years.

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<v Speaker 4>So we're not used to we're not not used to

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<v Speaker 4>having people come here. We're just not used to having

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<v Speaker 4>people come here with everything paid for, with every aspect

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<v Speaker 4>of life being accounted for. So I think, if you

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<v Speaker 4>had to ask me what you did, what is the

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<v Speaker 4>biggest problem in our culture going forward? I think it's entitlement.

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<v Speaker 3>So what do we do? How do we solve this?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I can tell you how I'm I'm doing with

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<v Speaker 4>my own kids. You know, I'm trying to make my

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<v Speaker 4>kids work for things, you know, every you know, everything

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<v Speaker 4>from privileges to their own little freedoms and ability to

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<v Speaker 4>go out with their friends. I mean, so, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>that's that's what we're doing in the Barelli household. How

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<v Speaker 4>society implements that, I'm not really sure, but it can't

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<v Speaker 4>just be you know, because you're breathing, you are entitled

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<v Speaker 4>to X, Y and z. Because you think you've got

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<v Speaker 4>a degree from a fancy institution, you should be entitled

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<v Speaker 4>to some other series of benefits. I think letting people,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, you look at a country like Israel, for example,

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<v Speaker 4>where there's you know, compulsive military service, right, And I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not saying the military is for everyone, but but but

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<v Speaker 4>when you have a compulsive military service, you know you

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<v Speaker 4>have to do without for a period of your life.

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<v Speaker 4>And look at the products downstream of that, where you

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<v Speaker 4>have one of the most innovative societies on Earth, one

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<v Speaker 4>of the most entrepreneurial societies on Earth. And that's that's

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<v Speaker 4>one credited to the fact that they make every kid

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<v Speaker 4>when you're a kid, when you're eighteen, go out and

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<v Speaker 4>earn some respect, earn some self worth, earn learn about

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<v Speaker 4>what you're able to do and how you can.

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<v Speaker 1>Produce interesting How do we translate that here without compulsory

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<v Speaker 1>you know, military service. How do we teach this new generation,

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<v Speaker 1>next generation that they can't just expect things that they

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<v Speaker 1>don't get out of college and make six figures. And

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<v Speaker 1>who's lying to them, I guess is the better question.

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<v Speaker 1>Who is telling them to have these expectations.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean that answer comes from this expectation that college

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<v Speaker 4>is for everyone, that there's a government loan for you

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<v Speaker 4>to go to college and you're not going to actually

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<v Speaker 4>pay for it. I mean, I have college loans, but

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<v Speaker 4>I chose to go to a college that gave me

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<v Speaker 4>the biggest scholarship. You know, I wanted to go to

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<v Speaker 4>a good school. Right, No one wants to go to

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<v Speaker 4>bed school. And when you can make good schools, you

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<v Speaker 4>want to go there when I went to the best

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<v Speaker 4>school that I could in order to have the least

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<v Speaker 4>amount of debt possible. Yeah, look, I saw my own parents.

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<v Speaker 4>My dad was an MTA worker, my my mother, did

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<v Speaker 4>you know, various jobs over the years, no sort of career.

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<v Speaker 4>But like I, we didn't have a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 4>We didn't. We didn't go sit court side at the

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<v Speaker 4>next I've never even been to a next game.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, think about it, you've never been to a next game.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I don't think I've ever been to you a fan. No,

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<v Speaker 4>I hate basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate basketball too, but I still have to go

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<v Speaker 1>to games sometimes.

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<v Speaker 4>No, never, never. I mean, we just didn't do those things.

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<v Speaker 4>We just we were always comfortable. We were middle class.

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<v Speaker 4>We never had luxuries.

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<v Speaker 1>But but I just wanted the headline after this interview

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<v Speaker 1>to be like New York City councilman hates basketball hates.

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<v Speaker 4>The end which could if that's the headline, I wish

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<v Speaker 4>that was the headline. I don't mean, I'm sure fat

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<v Speaker 4>and white. So like, basketball was never never really an

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<v Speaker 4>option for me. In fact, I could remember in like

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<v Speaker 4>the third grade just playing into mural rec league at

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<v Speaker 4>the parish gym, and I would get the ball, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'd get so scared I'd crunch up into a ball

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<v Speaker 4>and then I throw it over my head and hope.

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<v Speaker 4>This guy named Joan man Ferana, he's a he's a

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<v Speaker 4>big guy man. He used to play pretty well.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you generally catch it?

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<v Speaker 4>Generally caught it and made a basket, and like we

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<v Speaker 4>went on to great things.

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<v Speaker 3>Nice.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're only the second politician I've had on this show,

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<v Speaker 1>because I generally don't find politicians that interesting. But you

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<v Speaker 1>and Ted Cruz are you know, the two exceptions to that.

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<v Speaker 4>He's interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Who do you like?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>Who are the politicians you find interesting?

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<v Speaker 1>Who else should I have on the Carol Mark Wood Show.

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<v Speaker 4>Politicians I find interesting are people who write, So everyone

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<v Speaker 4>from Benjamin Disraeli to Boris Johnson to Steve israel I

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<v Speaker 4>think I think when you're a writer, anybody in America

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<v Speaker 4>or a long time ago. So I like people who

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<v Speaker 4>can frame thoughts in like written written works. So that's

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<v Speaker 4>who I find interesting. Other just general politicians I find interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>Some of my colleagues I actually find that they are

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<v Speaker 4>interesting people. Some of the diverse backgrounds, you know, genuinely

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<v Speaker 4>have me interested in their life experience, There's one guy,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Kevin Riley. He he is a black man

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<v Speaker 4>South Bronx has a fatherhood based nonprofit where he is

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<v Speaker 4>just always talking about fatherhood and being a role model

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<v Speaker 4>as a as a as a man, as a dad

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<v Speaker 4>in the community. I find his whole thing just so

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<v Speaker 4>really interesting. He'd be an interesting person to have on

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<v Speaker 4>a show like this. National politics is so boring. I

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<v Speaker 4>mean I liked they threw him out of Congress, you

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<v Speaker 4>know what I mean, Like, like that was bizarre. He

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<v Speaker 4>was like he's nuts. I know him, he's a nut job,

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<v Speaker 4>but he was interesting. Right, It's not a it's not

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<v Speaker 4>a it really is not a profession that rewards a

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<v Speaker 4>centrism and originalism. Although you know, we've had Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 4>we have Javier Malay, we have these these exceptions to

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<v Speaker 4>my rule. But as a general rule of thumb, Man

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<v Speaker 4>politicians are so boring, Like even the ones that know

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<v Speaker 4>how to tweet a little bit or like I think

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<v Speaker 4>they're they're wild, but like they wouldn't they wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 4>getting you know, any followers as content creators had they

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<v Speaker 4>not been the US Senator from Oklahoma or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I'm gonna have to look up who you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about after this show.

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<v Speaker 4>Cotton Center. I mean, like he's just he's got a

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<v Speaker 4>good interesting guy. But like if he was just a

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<v Speaker 4>host on CNBC, I wouldn't be watching him.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that we're going to take a quick break

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<v Speaker 1>and be right back on the Carol Marcowitch Show. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like you've made it? I mean being on

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<v Speaker 1>the New York City City Council and you were one

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<v Speaker 1>of the few Republicans for so long, Like, do you

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<v Speaker 1>feel good about it?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you feel like you've made it?

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<v Speaker 4>So? I feel good about it because I accomplished one

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<v Speaker 4>minor goal. So there was a school for handicapped kids

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<v Speaker 4>that I ran for office too built. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 4>knock down this. It was like an old temporary building,

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<v Speaker 4>like one of those QUANTT huts, like Vietnam era QUANTCET

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<v Speaker 4>hut to make people think about what the building was.

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<v Speaker 4>And this is where we were sending handicapped kids or

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<v Speaker 4>physically and developmentally disabled, and it was just it was

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<v Speaker 4>an appalling thing. And I set out to do it

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<v Speaker 4>and we got, you know, sixty million dollars or so

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<v Speaker 4>we built them a brand new, massive school and it's wonderful.

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<v Speaker 4>So like I'm one of those people where like everything

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<v Speaker 4>after that is cake. Right, That's that's a little thing

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<v Speaker 4>that I could rest my head and say, you know what,

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<v Speaker 4>I did something good for people. By the way, now

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<v Speaker 4>we have the school. Now the PTA chirps in my

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<v Speaker 4>ear every day for this and that there's problems all

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<v Speaker 4>over the place. It's still better than having the floor

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<v Speaker 4>rotting out from this quantt hunt. But like bigger picture,

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<v Speaker 4>have I made it? And what am I going to

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<v Speaker 4>do next? Or kind of like interestwine, right, I think

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<v Speaker 4>everyone has to figure out whether they're a person who's

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<v Speaker 4>motivated by money or they're motivated by ego. And like

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<v Speaker 4>so like I've met my ego threshold where like I

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<v Speaker 4>have become a certain degree of famous, like not you know,

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<v Speaker 4>big fish in a small pond, right, I you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I get to be on TV on a regular base.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, people watch Fox, Fox Business News, Maxine. They

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<v Speaker 4>watch this stuff religiously, and I'm just so blessed to

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<v Speaker 4>be able to go on these shows. People read the

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<v Speaker 4>New York It's like the biggest circulating paper in the country,

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<v Speaker 4>and you get to write a lot the best.

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<v Speaker 3>Best newspaper in the country. Left the humans words here

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<v Speaker 3>in New York.

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<v Speaker 4>Post Barn and I get to publish with them, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>every couple of weeks I submit something and they're They've

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<v Speaker 4>been great to me. So, like being a Republican on

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<v Speaker 4>the city council, the best you can hope for is

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<v Speaker 4>to influence political thought in New York City. And again,

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<v Speaker 4>New York City bigger in terms of population and budget

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<v Speaker 4>than Switzerland. It's not it's not just a regular municipality. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>so I guess I've made it. Other people will say like, well,

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<v Speaker 4>what's it all worth? Like, like, what am I going

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<v Speaker 4>to do next?

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<v Speaker 2>It?

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<v Speaker 4>Do I do I continue this path where I want

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<v Speaker 4>to keep running for off or keep doing things that

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<v Speaker 4>that sort of meet my my own personal vision of accomplishment,

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<v Speaker 4>like really like my ego and stuff. Or do I

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<v Speaker 4>say like, Okay, now I'm going to work in the

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<v Speaker 4>private sector and can I earn more money?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>And those things aren't mutually exclusive, but finding the one

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<v Speaker 4>that that checks both boxes is tough. Even if you're

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<v Speaker 4>a house painter, for example, you know you want to

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<v Speaker 4>make the most money painting houses, but you also don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to be the worst house painter in the town

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<v Speaker 4>you live in. Right, So, like there's like a professional

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<v Speaker 4>accomplishment that you want to be, whether you're painting houses

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<v Speaker 4>or or you know, the next remote And even if

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<v Speaker 4>you're not motivated by money, you still want to have

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<v Speaker 4>enough to be comfortable. So I don't know. I guess

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<v Speaker 4>for me, it's finding that right balance. And and so

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<v Speaker 4>the answer is no, I don't think I have that

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<v Speaker 4>right balance yet.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that's just no, yeah, all right. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's funny because when I think of you.

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<v Speaker 1>So I saw you in December on the West coast

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<v Speaker 1>of Florida. It was my first time on the West coast.

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<v Speaker 1>We had, you know, a super great time. Wait, what's

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<v Speaker 1>that place called again?

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<v Speaker 4>Seed to Table? Shake, See to Table.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, yeah, see to Table.

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<v Speaker 4>I live down the block. I need you to be

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<v Speaker 4>my best friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Seed to Table. It was unreal, incredible. We had

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<v Speaker 1>the best time, and you seem so comfortable and natural

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<v Speaker 1>and happy in Florida. And I'm obviously a Florida evangelist.

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<v Speaker 3>I want you here.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I have this thing where I just think

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<v Speaker 1>you're like the only shot New York has, Like I think,

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<v Speaker 1>without you, I don't know what happens to New York

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<v Speaker 1>without Joe Borelli.

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<v Speaker 3>So I kind of want you.

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<v Speaker 1>Here so we could go have beers at Seed to Table.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also want you to fix the city.

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<v Speaker 3>That I love, and you know, maybe I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know, run for mayor or you know, something like

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<v Speaker 1>that and really really turn that place around.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, if something I don't I don't root against

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<v Speaker 4>people at all. I don't don't move against Bill a

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<v Speaker 4>Blasio person. I don't root against you know, Kathy Hochel.

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<v Speaker 4>I rooted against Andrew Cuomo because he's a bad human being,

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<v Speaker 4>like human being, genuinely bad person. I just think Bill

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<v Speaker 4>de Blasio is dopey and had bad ideas. Kathy Hochel's

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<v Speaker 4>kind of ineffectual, you know, but like a nice I

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<v Speaker 4>had lunchurder in the past, and she's a nice person, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a fan, but okay, bad bad person. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you about Bill de Blasio. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he was just, you know, has terrible ideas.

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<v Speaker 4>I texted him Bill, the die job looks great because

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<v Speaker 4>he died. Like I'm kind of nice, but it's like

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<v Speaker 4>it sounds sarcastic and kind of I don't know, being

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<v Speaker 4>nice or not anyway. I'm Staten Island for I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>New York first. I am a Staten Island through and through.

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<v Speaker 4>If Staten Island succeeded, I would run for mayor and

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<v Speaker 4>about Eric Adams. If Eric Adams against jams up and

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<v Speaker 4>resigns and there's like a two or three month race

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<v Speaker 4>to replace him, non partisan race, maybe I throw my

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<v Speaker 4>hat in the mix, just just to give people alternative.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't think I have a chance of winning,

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<v Speaker 4>and might not act we do it. But I am

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<v Speaker 4>so Staten Island that every day of my life I

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<v Speaker 4>wake up and I think, how I love like Staten

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<v Speaker 4>Islands so unique, right, it's so unique, and it's so introverted,

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<v Speaker 4>and we all know each other and we all work

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<v Speaker 4>together and everyone knows everyone. It's like the it's the

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<v Speaker 4>pinnacle of small town big city neighborhoods. When you watch

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<v Speaker 4>a movie about Boston and like you look at Southey,

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<v Speaker 4>like that's not real. It's real on Staten Island. That's

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<v Speaker 4>how Staten Island is so like every day in my

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<v Speaker 4>life it's like I don't know whether I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 4>living here and touting Staten Island till till the day

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<v Speaker 4>I die. Or the most Staten Island thing ever is

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<v Speaker 4>that I spend half my day on Zillo saying I

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<v Speaker 4>gotta get out of this place. This is the worst thing.

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<v Speaker 4>That is even more likely to buy a burial plot

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<v Speaker 4>in Resurrection cemetery a quarter mile from where I'm standing

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<v Speaker 4>than another house in Staten Island. But like it's like

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<v Speaker 4>that is the most New York City thing ever is

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<v Speaker 4>spend how much time on z right.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, you used to talk about Staten Islands

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<v Speaker 1>the seating, and that was like the scariest thing for

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<v Speaker 1>some you know, a conservative living in Brooklyn.

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<v Speaker 3>Staton Islands the seating means.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we're going to get far left leadership for

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<v Speaker 1>the other four boroughs. Is Daton Island's the only holding

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<v Speaker 1>the only thing holding that place together.

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<v Speaker 3>So but now that I'm gone, I'm like, maybe Saton

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<v Speaker 3>Islands is the seat.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe Joe Burrelli's mayor of Staten Island.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what the city needs to do is really

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<v Speaker 4>implement non partisan, open, open elections basically, you know, because

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<v Speaker 4>I mean Chicago has this in Chicago's the only really

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<v Speaker 4>bad example because they're corrupt and crazy. But again, the Chicago,

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<v Speaker 4>the mayoralty came down to a razor thin race between

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<v Speaker 4>a guy who was rational and reasonable, a Democrat. I

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<v Speaker 4>think it was against Paul Fallis and the that crazy

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<v Speaker 4>guy who is now the mayor who wants to get

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<v Speaker 4>rid of the shot podder technology literally the audio radar

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<v Speaker 4>thing that the texts gun fire and sends the police

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<v Speaker 4>he wants to get rid of anyway, Wait, why.

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<v Speaker 3>Does he want to get rid of it? He probably raised.

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<v Speaker 4>He is so woke, he's like asleep like that. He

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<v Speaker 4>thinks that that because you know, it's a similar scenario

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<v Speaker 4>where it's hyper low turnout and the craziest person wins.

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<v Speaker 4>New York could be like most other major cities in

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<v Speaker 4>America where it's nonpartisan open elections, where yes, the person

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<v Speaker 4>who's running is endorsed by the Democratic Party. They tout

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<v Speaker 4>themselves as Democrats. Yes, the person who wins in most

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<v Speaker 4>urban cities and many big cities are our Democrats. More

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<v Speaker 4>often than not, they're of the same race, color, and

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<v Speaker 4>creed of the people who live in that city. We're

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<v Speaker 4>not trying to change that, but having that open primary

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<v Speaker 4>opens the voter turnout to more moderate, rational people, and

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<v Speaker 4>the net effect on the city councils and the mayorships

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<v Speaker 4>and whatever elected official they have is a positive thing.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why New York City Council is always in the news.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not just because we are the biggest city in

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<v Speaker 4>the country. It's because we do some dumb things in

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<v Speaker 4>sas the guy wanted to ban the ice cream truck

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<v Speaker 4>last year, that was his big proposal.

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<v Speaker 1>My kids heard about that in Florida. They were like

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<v Speaker 1>the ice cream shop ban in New York City, like

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<v Speaker 1>made national news.

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<v Speaker 4>Now we're gonna ban tide pods and stuff. But they're delicious.

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<v Speaker 3>Why would you ban them?

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<v Speaker 4>Did for that? Not even for that actual good reason,

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<v Speaker 4>like they're killing the environment or something. I don't even

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<v Speaker 4>know why. But like, we can't have we can't have

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<v Speaker 4>nice things.

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<v Speaker 3>In me, can't have nice things.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which is why again, you know, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>the future Joe BURRELLI lives in Florida because we get

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<v Speaker 1>to have nice things here and it's you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>would be nice to share those nice things with you.

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<v Speaker 4>So I got an email from my county commissioner a

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<v Speaker 4>few weeks a few months ago. Maybe his name is

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<v Speaker 4>Chris Hall. If you live in Callier County, and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>in Chris Chris Hall's district. I don't know the guy

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<v Speaker 4>from Adam, but I sent him an email because I

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<v Speaker 4>got his like, you know, quarterly update, and it said, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, just please to announce we were able to

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<v Speaker 4>lower I think at the rate, we were able to

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<v Speaker 4>lower the tax rate like the tiniest little hair and

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<v Speaker 4>most people that means nothing, but to someone in government,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, you were able to lower the taxes. I

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<v Speaker 4>wrote him the most effusively praiseworthy email. You are you

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<v Speaker 4>are a champion, sir, you are a champion.

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<v Speaker 3>That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>He did respond. He seemed like a very nice guy,

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<v Speaker 4>but like I was just so impressed with and Byron Donalds.

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<v Speaker 4>Byron Donalds is my congressman down to Florida. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>this is a guy who who is genuinely in office

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<v Speaker 4>for the right reasons. I mean his wife, what she's

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<v Speaker 4>doing with with charter schools and stuff like that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>these are people who we can all get behind and

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<v Speaker 4>cheer for. And again one of he's one of those

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<v Speaker 4>people that that fled Brooklyn, uh and settled in the

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<v Speaker 4>west coast of Florida. So you know, he might have

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<v Speaker 4>the playbook for me. I don't know. I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>never gonna run for Congress. I'm gonna run for the border.

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<v Speaker 4>If not, if I don't run North Naples.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I mean, you know your New York's last

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<v Speaker 1>great hope, So so if I see you in Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll know New York is done.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a good barometer.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So I love talking to you, Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we should do it again over beers, but

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<v Speaker 1>end here with your best tip for my listeners on

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<v Speaker 1>how they can improve their lives.

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<v Speaker 4>Go back to what I said earlier. Figure out whether

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<v Speaker 4>you figure out what makes you happy, whether it's satisfying

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<v Speaker 4>your ego and your sense of accomplishment, meeting goals and challenges,

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<v Speaker 4>or you're motivated by money. And I don't think those

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<v Speaker 4>two things are equally are mutually exclusive, But I think

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<v Speaker 4>you'll find happiness if you just acknowledge who you are

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<v Speaker 4>as a person and what motivates you and what makes

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<v Speaker 4>you happy, because then you'll be able to take a

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<v Speaker 4>step back and figure out the best path for you

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<v Speaker 4>that achieves some goals and makes you at least financially

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<v Speaker 4>stable enough to live a comfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much, New York City Councilman Joe BURRELLI

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<v Speaker 1>loved having you on, See you soon. Thank you so much,

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much for joining us on The Carol Markowitz Show.

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