1 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 2: A lot of people give a lot of bad advice 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 2: on the internet, but I've noticed a particular trend recently 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 2: that I think is just really prevalent and it's spreading, so. 5 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to address it. It's what gets told to 6 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: women who yearn to get married and have a family, 7 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: and it's just some of the worst advice around. In 8 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: the British newspaper The Independent, a woman wrote in saying 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: the following quote. I'm thirty one and have been with 10 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: my boyfriend for twelve years. He is my favorite person 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 1: in the world, but I have spent the past year 12 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: devastated by the realization that he is never going to 13 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: ask me. 14 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 3: To marry him. 15 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: He doesn't agree with marriage and hates the idea of 16 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: a day full of attention. All my girlfriends are married, 17 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: and although I'm so happy in my relationship, I can't 18 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: help but compare and despair every time I go to 19 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: a wedding. I lost my dad when I was very young, 20 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: and also feel sad and unreasonably bitter at the fact 21 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: that most of my friends get it all. A dad 22 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: and a husband, a father of the bride speech a 23 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: perfect white wedding. I know I want to grow old 24 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: and gray with my boyfriend, and we both. 25 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 3: Want children soon. 26 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: But I still feel sad about the wedding that we're 27 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: not having and the memories that we're not making with 28 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: friends and family. 29 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 3: Please help me. End quote. 30 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: The column is called Dear Dolly, and Dolly responds with 31 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 1: just about the worst answer I can imagine. She starts 32 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: out talking about how romantic weddings are and how even 33 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: she Dolly, has gotten caught up in that, despite the 34 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: fact that she herself does not want to get married. 35 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: Dolly writes quote, I'm sorry it's causing you such distress. 36 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: I know of other women who have been put in 37 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: your position, and they too were surprised at how much 38 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: it bothered them. I admire how clear eyed you are 39 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: about what it is. You want a big, traditional wedding 40 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: where you and your partner's relationship is celebrated. And it 41 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: seems obvious to me that because of his personality type, 42 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: this is not something he would find enjoyable. This doesn't 43 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: seem to be about his commit meant to you. End quote. Uh, yeah, sure. 44 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: The Brits have this thing where you can bet on 45 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: just about anything, what color the princess will be wearing, 46 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: what celebrity will die this year, and so on. Well, 47 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: I'd placed the bet that if this couple broke up tomorrow, 48 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: he'd likely marry the next person he dates. It's a 49 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: well worn path that many people have taken before him. 50 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: Dolly goes on, quote in your longer letter, you mentioned 51 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: that he says he doesn't want to get married because 52 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: it is a patriarchal institution. End quote. I mean, lol, Honestly, 53 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 1: he won't marry her because of the patriarchy. 54 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 3: What a good guy. There was a time where. 55 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: Men said they wouldn't marry their girlfriends until their gay 56 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: friends could marry. Lena had Dune him, the actress's longtime boyfriend, 57 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: famously said this, and then gay marriage became legal and 58 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: they still didn't get married. Fight the patriarchy, right, Do 59 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: whatever your boyfriend wants to do, and don't make him 60 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: have to consider your feelings. Girl power. Dolly gives her 61 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 1: some tips on talking to her boyfriend about maybe having 62 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: a non traditional wedding, and then says, quote, another thing 63 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: you may want to consider is a big birthday. A 64 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: wedding is not something I dream of, But a big 65 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: birthday has become a shining day in my calendar year. 66 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: For my thirty fifth I wore a Vivian Westwood dress 67 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: black not white, and took some friends for dinner on 68 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: a canal boat. My best friend made a beautiful speech. 69 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: Everyone got up to no good. It was wonderful. Why 70 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: not redirect your wedding longing into a big birthday party? 71 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: Be utterly shameless about it. Ask your boyfriend to make 72 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: a toast by yourself a ridiculous outfit. Tell your best 73 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: friend your favorite flavor of cake. Let yourself enjoy the 74 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: celebration and attention you long for. Let yourself be showered 75 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: in the love and silliness and fuss that you deserve. 76 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: Do it completely on your own terms. You may wake 77 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: up the next day to find an itch. 78 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 3: Has been scratched. 79 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: End quote. And that's just completely misreading what this woman wants. 80 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: She wants the traditional picture of the wedding and the marriage, 81 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: a big birthday party, be serious. She says specifically that 82 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: she's jealous her friends get to have it all, dad 83 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: and a husband. She wants what women have wanted for 84 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: hundreds and maybe thousands of years. The questioner is not the. 85 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:07,839 Speaker 3: Weird one here. 86 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: The people gaslighting her into believing she shouldn't want this 87 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: because of the patriarchy or whatever. Are the ones rewriting 88 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: something basic and obvious. People want to tie themselves to 89 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: each other in front of their friends and family. They 90 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: want the wedding, yes, but they want the marriage. They 91 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: want what has worked and not the latest thing that 92 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: probably won't. Coming up next, an interview with New York 93 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: City Councilman Joe Borelli. Join us after the break. Welcome 94 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio. My guest 95 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,799 Speaker 1: today is Republican leader of the New York City City 96 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: Council and generally decent human Joe Borelli. 97 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 4: Hi, Joe, how are you? Great to see you? 98 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 3: So nice to have you on counselman anytime. 99 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 4: I just I wish I was where you are right Noway. 100 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: I wish you were where I was also, But somebody 101 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: has to hold it down in New York City, and 102 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: you know that's. 103 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 3: Been you for many years. Now. How's it going? 104 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 4: I mean, we're still floating. Things are okay. Things are 105 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 4: not as bad as I think they were maybe a 106 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 4: year ago, and you know, six months ago even so, 107 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 4: there's some positive news. Crime is ticking down just slightly. 108 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 4: The migrant crisis is abetting itself ever so slightly. Unfortunately, 109 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 4: now we're seeing the convergence of the crime and migrant 110 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,559 Speaker 4: crisis in the form of some high profile incident instead 111 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 4: of occurred. But other than that, the city financially is 112 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 4: doing okay, and we'll still be here I think in 113 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 4: a decade or so. 114 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 3: So how is the migrant crisis a betting itself? 115 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: I mean, just from the news, it seems to not 116 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: be a betting itself. 117 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 4: Well, the number of people in our care not only 118 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 4: stayed at about hundred seventy thousand people, but it trickled 119 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 4: down ever so slightly. So we've been molemented a sixty 120 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 4: day eviction process, which has seen some results. We've also 121 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,679 Speaker 4: stopped leasing new hotels. More people have gone into tents. 122 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 4: It turns out people don't like to stay intense for 123 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 4: too long, so eventually it works out where they work out. 124 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 3: Interesting, Okay, I get that. 125 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: So one thing that I asked everybody on this show, 126 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: and I feel like asking a New York City council 127 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: and you might have extensive answer, But what would you say, 128 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: is our largest societal problem and is it solvable? 129 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 4: You know. So I saw your question when you emailed 130 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 4: me this, and I wanted to say something entirely predictable, 131 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 4: but I'm going to not do that. I'm going to 132 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 4: say something that I think is the case. And it's 133 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 4: kind of a deep, dark secret that maybe I think 134 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 4: this way. I actually think it's our sense of entitlement, 135 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 4: because that is, it's a broad disease that infects every race, color, 136 00:06:55,680 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 4: and creed, and especially younger people. But I think it's 137 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 4: this sense of entitlement as to what people are owed 138 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 4: when they wake up in the morning that is going 139 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 4: to make the US long term less competitive than anywhere else. 140 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 4: And I just never understood it, and I've seen it 141 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 4: in my you know, twenty years as a professional person 142 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 4: with a job where you know, when I started in politics. 143 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 4: In fact, when I started in politics, my first job 144 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 4: was an intern, and then after college, my first job 145 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 4: in politics was to hang posters around town. I mean 146 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 4: just you know, literally taking a stack of heavy posters 147 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 4: rolled up and walking from business to business and introducing 148 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 4: myself and giving a pitch for this candidate I was 149 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 4: working for at the time, and like that was that 150 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 4: was how you started. Now, I mean people won't even 151 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 4: volunteer for a campaign, and I put air quotes in 152 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 4: volunteer unless they're paid, and they're paid well and they're 153 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 4: getting a minimum wage. We just had a unionizing effort 154 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 4: by the staff of the City Council where now legislative 155 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 4: staff is unionized. And again I'm not opposed to you unions, 156 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 4: but these are fundamentally at will employees. These are people 157 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 4: who are you know, I get elected glect where we 158 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 4: gets elected. Yeah, we're in charge of hiring people that 159 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 4: are part of their team, and they're at will employees. 160 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 4: But now they're unionized and there's an entitlement that they 161 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 4: get at regular raises. Not to mention just what people's 162 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 4: expectations are coming out of college, what people's expectations are 163 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 4: in terms of government support. Look at the migrant crisis. 164 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 4: We've always had migrants, right, New York City has always 165 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 4: had immigrants, migrants, legal, illegal. Ever you kind of wear 166 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 4: in between over the past, you know, four hundred years 167 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 4: of our city sixteen twenty five, almost five hunred years. 168 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 4: So we're not used to we're not not used to 169 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 4: having people come here. We're just not used to having 170 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 4: people come here with everything paid for, with every aspect 171 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 4: of life being accounted for. So I think, if you 172 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 4: had to ask me what you did, what is the 173 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 4: biggest problem in our culture going forward? I think it's entitlement. 174 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 3: So what do we do? How do we solve this? 175 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 4: Well, I can tell you how I'm I'm doing with 176 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 4: my own kids. You know, I'm trying to make my 177 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 4: kids work for things, you know, every you know, everything 178 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 4: from privileges to their own little freedoms and ability to 179 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 4: go out with their friends. I mean, so, I mean, 180 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 4: that's that's what we're doing in the Barelli household. How 181 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 4: society implements that, I'm not really sure, but it can't 182 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 4: just be you know, because you're breathing, you are entitled 183 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 4: to X, Y and z. Because you think you've got 184 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 4: a degree from a fancy institution, you should be entitled 185 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 4: to some other series of benefits. I think letting people, 186 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 4: you know, you look at a country like Israel, for example, 187 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 4: where there's you know, compulsive military service, right, And I'm 188 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 4: not saying the military is for everyone, but but but 189 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 4: when you have a compulsive military service, you know you 190 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 4: have to do without for a period of your life. 191 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 4: And look at the products downstream of that, where you 192 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 4: have one of the most innovative societies on Earth, one 193 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 4: of the most entrepreneurial societies on Earth. And that's that's 194 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 4: one credited to the fact that they make every kid 195 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 4: when you're a kid, when you're eighteen, go out and 196 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 4: earn some respect, earn some self worth, earn learn about 197 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 4: what you're able to do and how you can. 198 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: Produce interesting How do we translate that here without compulsory 199 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: you know, military service. How do we teach this new generation, 200 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: next generation that they can't just expect things that they 201 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: don't get out of college and make six figures. And 202 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: who's lying to them, I guess is the better question. 203 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: Who is telling them to have these expectations. 204 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 4: I mean that answer comes from this expectation that college 205 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 4: is for everyone, that there's a government loan for you 206 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 4: to go to college and you're not going to actually 207 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 4: pay for it. I mean, I have college loans, but 208 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 4: I chose to go to a college that gave me 209 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,599 Speaker 4: the biggest scholarship. You know, I wanted to go to 210 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 4: a good school. Right, No one wants to go to 211 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 4: bed school. And when you can make good schools, you 212 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:54,719 Speaker 4: want to go there when I went to the best 213 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 4: school that I could in order to have the least 214 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 4: amount of debt possible. Yeah, look, I saw my own parents. 215 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 4: My dad was an MTA worker, my my mother, did 216 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 4: you know, various jobs over the years, no sort of career. 217 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 4: But like I, we didn't have a lot of money. 218 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,599 Speaker 4: We didn't. We didn't go sit court side at the 219 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 4: next I've never even been to a next game. 220 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: Now, think about it, you've never been to a next game. 221 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 4: No, I don't think I've ever been to you a fan. No, 222 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 4: I hate basketball. 223 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: I hate basketball too, but I still have to go 224 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: to games sometimes. 225 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 4: No, never, never. I mean, we just didn't do those things. 226 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 4: We just we were always comfortable. We were middle class. 227 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 4: We never had luxuries. 228 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: But but I just wanted the headline after this interview 229 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: to be like New York City councilman hates basketball hates. 230 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 4: The end which could if that's the headline, I wish 231 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 4: that was the headline. I don't mean, I'm sure fat 232 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 4: and white. So like, basketball was never never really an 233 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 4: option for me. In fact, I could remember in like 234 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 4: the third grade just playing into mural rec league at 235 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 4: the parish gym, and I would get the ball, and 236 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 4: I'd get so scared I'd crunch up into a ball 237 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 4: and then I throw it over my head and hope. 238 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 4: This guy named Joan man Ferana, he's a he's a 239 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 4: big guy man. He used to play pretty well. 240 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 3: Did you generally catch it? 241 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 4: Generally caught it and made a basket, and like we 242 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 4: went on to great things. 243 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 3: Nice. 244 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: So you're only the second politician I've had on this show, 245 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: because I generally don't find politicians that interesting. But you 246 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: and Ted Cruz are you know, the two exceptions to that. 247 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 4: He's interesting. 248 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 3: Who do you like? 249 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 4: Like? 250 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 3: Who are the politicians you find interesting? 251 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: Who else should I have on the Carol Mark Wood Show. 252 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 4: Politicians I find interesting are people who write, So everyone 253 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 4: from Benjamin Disraeli to Boris Johnson to Steve israel I 254 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,119 Speaker 4: think I think when you're a writer, anybody in America 255 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 4: or a long time ago. So I like people who 256 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 4: can frame thoughts in like written written works. So that's 257 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 4: who I find interesting. Other just general politicians I find interesting. 258 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 4: Some of my colleagues I actually find that they are 259 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 4: interesting people. Some of the diverse backgrounds, you know, genuinely 260 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 4: have me interested in their life experience, There's one guy, 261 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 4: you know, Kevin Riley. He he is a black man 262 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 4: South Bronx has a fatherhood based nonprofit where he is 263 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 4: just always talking about fatherhood and being a role model 264 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 4: as a as a as a man, as a dad 265 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 4: in the community. I find his whole thing just so 266 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 4: really interesting. He'd be an interesting person to have on 267 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 4: a show like this. National politics is so boring. I 268 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 4: mean I liked they threw him out of Congress, you 269 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like, like that was bizarre. He 270 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 4: was like he's nuts. I know him, he's a nut job, 271 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 4: but he was interesting. Right, It's not a it's not 272 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 4: a it really is not a profession that rewards a 273 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 4: centrism and originalism. Although you know, we've had Donald Trump, 274 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 4: we have Javier Malay, we have these these exceptions to 275 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 4: my rule. But as a general rule of thumb, Man 276 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 4: politicians are so boring, Like even the ones that know 277 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 4: how to tweet a little bit or like I think 278 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 4: they're they're wild, but like they wouldn't they wouldn't be 279 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 4: getting you know, any followers as content creators had they 280 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 4: not been the US Senator from Oklahoma or something. 281 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: Right, I'm gonna have to look up who you're talking 282 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: about after this show. 283 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 4: Cotton Center. I mean, like he's just he's got a 284 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 4: good interesting guy. But like if he was just a 285 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 4: host on CNBC, I wouldn't be watching him. 286 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: I understand that we're going to take a quick break 287 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: and be right back on the Carol Marcowitch Show. Do 288 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: you feel like you've made it? I mean being on 289 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: the New York City City Council and you were one 290 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: of the few Republicans for so long, Like, do you 291 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: feel good about it? 292 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 3: Do you feel like you've made it? 293 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 4: So? I feel good about it because I accomplished one 294 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 4: minor goal. So there was a school for handicapped kids 295 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 4: that I ran for office too built. I wanted to 296 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 4: knock down this. It was like an old temporary building, 297 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 4: like one of those QUANTT huts, like Vietnam era QUANTCET 298 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 4: hut to make people think about what the building was. 299 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 4: And this is where we were sending handicapped kids or 300 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 4: physically and developmentally disabled, and it was just it was 301 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 4: an appalling thing. And I set out to do it 302 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 4: and we got, you know, sixty million dollars or so 303 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 4: we built them a brand new, massive school and it's wonderful. 304 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 4: So like I'm one of those people where like everything 305 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 4: after that is cake. Right, That's that's a little thing 306 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 4: that I could rest my head and say, you know what, 307 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 4: I did something good for people. By the way, now 308 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 4: we have the school. Now the PTA chirps in my 309 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 4: ear every day for this and that there's problems all 310 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 4: over the place. It's still better than having the floor 311 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 4: rotting out from this quantt hunt. But like bigger picture, 312 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 4: have I made it? And what am I going to 313 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 4: do next? Or kind of like interestwine, right, I think 314 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 4: everyone has to figure out whether they're a person who's 315 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 4: motivated by money or they're motivated by ego. And like 316 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 4: so like I've met my ego threshold where like I 317 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 4: have become a certain degree of famous, like not you know, 318 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 4: big fish in a small pond, right, I you know, 319 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 4: I get to be on TV on a regular base. 320 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 4: I mean, people watch Fox, Fox Business News, Maxine. They 321 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 4: watch this stuff religiously, and I'm just so blessed to 322 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 4: be able to go on these shows. People read the 323 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 4: New York It's like the biggest circulating paper in the country, 324 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 4: and you get to write a lot the best. 325 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 3: Best newspaper in the country. Left the humans words here 326 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 3: in New York. 327 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 4: Post Barn and I get to publish with them, you know, 328 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 4: every couple of weeks I submit something and they're They've 329 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 4: been great to me. So, like being a Republican on 330 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 4: the city council, the best you can hope for is 331 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 4: to influence political thought in New York City. And again, 332 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 4: New York City bigger in terms of population and budget 333 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 4: than Switzerland. It's not it's not just a regular municipality. Yeah, 334 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 4: so I guess I've made it. Other people will say like, well, 335 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 4: what's it all worth? Like, like, what am I going 336 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 4: to do next? 337 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 2: It? 338 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 4: Do I do I continue this path where I want 339 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 4: to keep running for off or keep doing things that 340 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 4: that sort of meet my my own personal vision of accomplishment, 341 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 4: like really like my ego and stuff. Or do I 342 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 4: say like, Okay, now I'm going to work in the 343 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 4: private sector and can I earn more money? 344 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? 345 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 4: And those things aren't mutually exclusive, but finding the one 346 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 4: that that checks both boxes is tough. Even if you're 347 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 4: a house painter, for example, you know you want to 348 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 4: make the most money painting houses, but you also don't 349 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 4: want to be the worst house painter in the town 350 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 4: you live in. Right, So, like there's like a professional 351 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 4: accomplishment that you want to be, whether you're painting houses 352 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 4: or or you know, the next remote And even if 353 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 4: you're not motivated by money, you still want to have 354 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 4: enough to be comfortable. So I don't know. I guess 355 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 4: for me, it's finding that right balance. And and so 356 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 4: the answer is no, I don't think I have that 357 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 4: right balance yet. 358 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 3: Well that's just no, yeah, all right. I mean, you know, 359 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 3: it's funny. 360 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny because when I think of you. 361 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: So I saw you in December on the West coast 362 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: of Florida. It was my first time on the West coast. 363 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: We had, you know, a super great time. Wait, what's 364 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: that place called again? 365 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 4: Seed to Table? Shake, See to Table. 366 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, yeah, see to Table. 367 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 4: I live down the block. I need you to be 368 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 4: my best friend. 369 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, Seed to Table. It was unreal, incredible. We had 370 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: the best time, and you seem so comfortable and natural 371 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: and happy in Florida. And I'm obviously a Florida evangelist. 372 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 3: I want you here. 373 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: But then I have this thing where I just think 374 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: you're like the only shot New York has, Like I think, 375 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: without you, I don't know what happens to New York 376 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 1: without Joe Borelli. 377 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 3: So I kind of want you. 378 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: Here so we could go have beers at Seed to Table. 379 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: But I also want you to fix the city. 380 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 3: That I love, and you know, maybe I. 381 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: Don't know, run for mayor or you know, something like 382 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: that and really really turn that place around. 383 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 4: You know, if something I don't I don't root against 384 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 4: people at all. I don't don't move against Bill a 385 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 4: Blasio person. I don't root against you know, Kathy Hochel. 386 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 4: I rooted against Andrew Cuomo because he's a bad human being, 387 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 4: like human being, genuinely bad person. I just think Bill 388 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 4: de Blasio is dopey and had bad ideas. Kathy Hochel's 389 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 4: kind of ineffectual, you know, but like a nice I 390 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 4: had lunchurder in the past, and she's a nice person, right. 391 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: I'm not a fan, but okay, bad bad person. Yeah, 392 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: I agree with you about Bill de Blasio. I think 393 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: he was just, you know, has terrible ideas. 394 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 4: I texted him Bill, the die job looks great because 395 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 4: he died. Like I'm kind of nice, but it's like 396 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 4: it sounds sarcastic and kind of I don't know, being 397 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 4: nice or not anyway. I'm Staten Island for I'm not 398 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 4: New York first. I am a Staten Island through and through. 399 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 4: If Staten Island succeeded, I would run for mayor and 400 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 4: about Eric Adams. If Eric Adams against jams up and 401 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 4: resigns and there's like a two or three month race 402 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 4: to replace him, non partisan race, maybe I throw my 403 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 4: hat in the mix, just just to give people alternative. 404 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 4: So I don't think I have a chance of winning, 405 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 4: and might not act we do it. But I am 406 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 4: so Staten Island that every day of my life I 407 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 4: wake up and I think, how I love like Staten 408 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 4: Islands so unique, right, it's so unique, and it's so introverted, 409 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 4: and we all know each other and we all work 410 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 4: together and everyone knows everyone. It's like the it's the 411 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 4: pinnacle of small town big city neighborhoods. When you watch 412 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 4: a movie about Boston and like you look at Southey, 413 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 4: like that's not real. It's real on Staten Island. That's 414 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 4: how Staten Island is so like every day in my 415 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 4: life it's like I don't know whether I'm gonna be 416 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 4: living here and touting Staten Island till till the day 417 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 4: I die. Or the most Staten Island thing ever is 418 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 4: that I spend half my day on Zillo saying I 419 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 4: gotta get out of this place. This is the worst thing. 420 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 4: That is even more likely to buy a burial plot 421 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 4: in Resurrection cemetery a quarter mile from where I'm standing 422 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 4: than another house in Staten Island. But like it's like 423 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 4: that is the most New York City thing ever is 424 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 4: spend how much time on z right. 425 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: And you know, you used to talk about Staten Islands 426 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: the seating, and that was like the scariest thing for 427 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 1: some you know, a conservative living in Brooklyn. 428 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 3: Staton Islands the seating means. 429 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: You know, we're going to get far left leadership for 430 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: the other four boroughs. Is Daton Island's the only holding 431 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: the only thing holding that place together. 432 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 3: So but now that I'm gone, I'm like, maybe Saton 433 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 3: Islands is the seat. 434 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: Maybe Joe Burrelli's mayor of Staten Island. 435 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 4: You know what the city needs to do is really 436 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 4: implement non partisan, open, open elections basically, you know, because 437 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 4: I mean Chicago has this in Chicago's the only really 438 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 4: bad example because they're corrupt and crazy. But again, the Chicago, 439 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 4: the mayoralty came down to a razor thin race between 440 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 4: a guy who was rational and reasonable, a Democrat. I 441 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 4: think it was against Paul Fallis and the that crazy 442 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 4: guy who is now the mayor who wants to get 443 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 4: rid of the shot podder technology literally the audio radar 444 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 4: thing that the texts gun fire and sends the police 445 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 4: he wants to get rid of anyway, Wait, why. 446 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 3: Does he want to get rid of it? He probably raised. 447 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 4: He is so woke, he's like asleep like that. He 448 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 4: thinks that that because you know, it's a similar scenario 449 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 4: where it's hyper low turnout and the craziest person wins. 450 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 4: New York could be like most other major cities in 451 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 4: America where it's nonpartisan open elections, where yes, the person 452 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 4: who's running is endorsed by the Democratic Party. They tout 453 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 4: themselves as Democrats. Yes, the person who wins in most 454 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 4: urban cities and many big cities are our Democrats. More 455 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 4: often than not, they're of the same race, color, and 456 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 4: creed of the people who live in that city. We're 457 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 4: not trying to change that, but having that open primary 458 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 4: opens the voter turnout to more moderate, rational people, and 459 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 4: the net effect on the city councils and the mayorships 460 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 4: and whatever elected official they have is a positive thing. 461 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 4: That's why New York City Council is always in the news. 462 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 4: It's not just because we are the biggest city in 463 00:22:56,119 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 4: the country. It's because we do some dumb things in 464 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 4: sas the guy wanted to ban the ice cream truck 465 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 4: last year, that was his big proposal. 466 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: My kids heard about that in Florida. They were like 467 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: the ice cream shop ban in New York City, like 468 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: made national news. 469 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 4: Now we're gonna ban tide pods and stuff. But they're delicious. 470 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 3: Why would you ban them? 471 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,959 Speaker 4: Did for that? Not even for that actual good reason, 472 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 4: like they're killing the environment or something. I don't even 473 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 4: know why. But like, we can't have we can't have 474 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 4: nice things. 475 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 3: In me, can't have nice things. 476 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, which is why again, you know, I feel like 477 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: the future Joe BURRELLI lives in Florida because we get 478 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: to have nice things here and it's you know, it 479 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 1: would be nice to share those nice things with you. 480 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 4: So I got an email from my county commissioner a 481 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 4: few weeks a few months ago. Maybe his name is 482 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 4: Chris Hall. If you live in Callier County, and I'm 483 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 4: in Chris Chris Hall's district. I don't know the guy 484 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 4: from Adam, but I sent him an email because I 485 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 4: got his like, you know, quarterly update, and it said, hey, 486 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 4: you know, just please to announce we were able to 487 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 4: lower I think at the rate, we were able to 488 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 4: lower the tax rate like the tiniest little hair and 489 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 4: most people that means nothing, but to someone in government, 490 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 4: I'm like, you were able to lower the taxes. I 491 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 4: wrote him the most effusively praiseworthy email. You are you 492 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 4: are a champion, sir, you are a champion. 493 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 3: That's amazing. 494 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 4: He did respond. He seemed like a very nice guy, 495 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 4: but like I was just so impressed with and Byron Donalds. 496 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 4: Byron Donalds is my congressman down to Florida. I mean, 497 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 4: this is a guy who who is genuinely in office 498 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 4: for the right reasons. I mean his wife, what she's 499 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 4: doing with with charter schools and stuff like that. I mean, 500 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 4: these are people who we can all get behind and 501 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,239 Speaker 4: cheer for. And again one of he's one of those 502 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 4: people that that fled Brooklyn, uh and settled in the 503 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 4: west coast of Florida. So you know, he might have 504 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 4: the playbook for me. I don't know. I mean, I'm 505 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 4: never gonna run for Congress. I'm gonna run for the border. 506 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 4: If not, if I don't run North Naples. 507 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean, you know your New York's last 508 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: great hope, So so if I see you in Florida, 509 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 1: I'll know New York is done. 510 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 4: It's a good barometer. 511 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. So I love talking to you, Joe. 512 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: I think we should do it again over beers, but 513 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 1: end here with your best tip for my listeners on 514 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: how they can improve their lives. 515 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 4: Go back to what I said earlier. Figure out whether 516 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 4: you figure out what makes you happy, whether it's satisfying 517 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 4: your ego and your sense of accomplishment, meeting goals and challenges, 518 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 4: or you're motivated by money. And I don't think those 519 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 4: two things are equally are mutually exclusive, But I think 520 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 4: you'll find happiness if you just acknowledge who you are 521 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 4: as a person and what motivates you and what makes 522 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 4: you happy, because then you'll be able to take a 523 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 4: step back and figure out the best path for you 524 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 4: that achieves some goals and makes you at least financially 525 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 4: stable enough to live a comfortable. 526 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, New York City Councilman Joe BURRELLI 527 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: loved having you on, See you soon. Thank you so much, 528 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us on The Carol Markowitz Show. 529 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.