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Speaker 3: in my way. I'm doing this. I'm getting a haircut.

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Speaker 3: Today's guest is absolutely fantastic. It's Kimia Bapornia. Kimia, welcome

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Speaker 3: to I said no gifts.

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Speaker 2: Oh thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty good? You know. I was wondering about your

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Speaker 3: This is a new thing where I've like, I think

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Speaker 3: close to my house. Oh yeah, but he's The haircuts

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Speaker 2: Oh I do that a lot. I go, oh, I'll

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Speaker 3: Or I've already checked it out and think it's despicable,

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Speaker 3: Well so you've I'm hoping that I get to I'm

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Speaker 3: If I do, I'm gonna that zoo will be hearing

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Speaker 2: Petition get the horses out of the Zoo No close.

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Speaker 3: The zoo down. Yes, I mean horses are not my favorite,

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Speaker 2: It's not really an animal.

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Speaker 3: They're a friend. They're a companion or a partner team

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Speaker 2: No, I did not pierce my brain. I did write

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Speaker 2: I dare I know. I could have cured something.

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Speaker 3: Take your pick. There's so many things secure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is actually what my mom said when I

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Speaker 2: because I can work out some numbers. I'm pretty stupid.

443
00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,120
Speaker 3: You could have probably been like mid level at a company.

444
00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that sounds sad, kind of that.

445
00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,280
Speaker 3: Way, completely unsatisfying life where you thought, oh I could

446
00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:47,760
Speaker 3: have done I could have been one of those people

447
00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:48,160
Speaker 3: on TV.

448
00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm sitting at a desk doing someone's taxes

449
00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:52,200
Speaker 2: or something.

450
00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,680
Speaker 3: Right, Well, do you think if somebody like put these

451
00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,479
Speaker 3: pieces in front of you now, you'd be able to

452
00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:58,520
Speaker 3: program something?

453
00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:00,760
Speaker 2: No? Nothing, definitely not.

454
00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,080
Speaker 3: I mean women in stem fuck off shoot.

455
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,160
Speaker 2: I'm a bad example. Well, it's just because the tech

456
00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,359
Speaker 2: has changed and I haven't looked at it since middle school.

457
00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,159
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna know about the flow charts and the

458
00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,760
Speaker 2: way Lego is programming the r c X and all

459
00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:13,159
Speaker 2: this stuff.

460
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:18,280
Speaker 3: Now, wow, it's very impressive. That's very impressive. This is

461
00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,439
Speaker 3: the sort of situation where you do end up shipwrecked

462
00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,560
Speaker 3: and you're still the most qualified person on the island,

463
00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:26,440
Speaker 3: and you're like, well, I'm using the middle school Lego things.

464
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,119
Speaker 3: There's probably enough things, not enough things on the island

465
00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:29,640
Speaker 3: to program.

466
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,879
Speaker 2: So you can say, nah, I can do puzzles, like

467
00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,560
Speaker 2: I could help logic us off the ieor.

468
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,080
Speaker 3: Do you find like a tomb hidden behind puzzles?

469
00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:41,080
Speaker 2: If it was Survivor, we'd be okay, do you think.

470
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,640
Speaker 3: You would do Survivor? I can't, I can't, I don't

471
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,719
Speaker 3: think even banned from CBS.

472
00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,480
Speaker 2: I sort of. I always say my wife won't let me.

473
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 2: That's and then she goes, I didn't say anything, but

474
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,359
Speaker 2: I go, no, she wouldn't let me. She wouldn't let me.

475
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 3: What is it about survivor that scares you?

476
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:03,240
Speaker 2: I don't know. Oh, I guess the bugs.

477
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,560
Speaker 3: That to me, the bugs, the general like fear of sunburn.

478
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you would burn.

479
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 3: I would die. Although I don't want to do it,

480
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,359
Speaker 3: but I looked into it just in case I accidentally

481
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 3: did it, I guess. And they do have to supply something.

482
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:17,680
Speaker 2: They give you.

483
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 3: You don't see a lot of that on screen. I

484
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 3: guess you go out in the woods and put on

485
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 3: your sunscreen before you get on camera. Yeah, otherwise I

486
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,680
Speaker 3: would be a disaster. I would be a hospital case,

487
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 3: you know, like they would have to fly me off

488
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 3: the island. Yeah, they won't.

489
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 2: I also don't want to poop in the ocean.

490
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 3: Do they? Is that really part of it? They don't

491
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 3: have toilets for you.

492
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, they poop in the ocean.

493
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 3: That feels irresponsible on their part. Yeah, it feels like

494
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 3: we're putting I mean, I guess other animals poop in

495
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 3: the ocean. Yeah, but we don't need human sewage flowing

496
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 3: through the ocean.

497
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,400
Speaker 2: Because of there's like a section of the island that's

498
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:50,399
Speaker 2: like where they poop.

499
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,400
Speaker 3: Oh interesting, net it off.

500
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 2: Where I looked at. Yeah, somebody can fact check.

501
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,679
Speaker 3: Oh that's terrible. So it's everyone has to kind of

502
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,719
Speaker 3: walk into a big toilet kind of.

503
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,679
Speaker 2: It sort of like flows away.

504
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 3: But also flows, I mean as the ocean does. Yeah,

505
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 3: that's unpleasant, terrible.

506
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,199
Speaker 2: That's all I can think of when they do the

507
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 2: reward challenges, or like when they go on reward and

508
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 2: they get to eat like Applebee's and then I'm like, shoot,

509
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 2: now they all have to go poop in the ocean.

510
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 2: I can't enjoy it.

511
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 3: Apple Is Applebee still sponsoring Survivor?

512
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:25,119
Speaker 2: I think so.

513
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 3: I feel like maybe out Back Steakhouse is probably occasionally

514
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 3: getting in there. Who else? Those are probably the two remaining.

515
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 3: I don't think tgif TGF Fridays exists.

516
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,640
Speaker 2: Anymore, just generally they're gone.

517
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 3: I think did the whole company go under?

518
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 2: I hope not. I had a surprise birthday there once.

519
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 3: Yes, on the LEASTGI Friday still exist, please hell.

520
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 2: I think it does. One second, let me just confirm Okay, I'm.

521
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 3: Going to get confirmation. We need to get confirmation on Fridays.

522
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 2: I need all the places I've had birthdays to still exist.

523
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they're they're open.

524
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 3: They're still open. My apologies to Fridays. Yea. I feel

525
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 3: like maybe the ones in the greater LA area are gone.

526
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 3: So are the chilis. You know you can't get to

527
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 3: a Chili's within fifty miles of LA. I'm pretty sure

528
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 3: it's hard to get to a Chili's here. I would

529
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 3: go to a Chili's if there was one in Silver.

530
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,640
Speaker 2: Like, Yeah, definitely that's the market. Yeah, everyone in Silver

531
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 2: Like wants to head to a Chili's.

532
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 3: The Echo Park chilis. I think that it would actually

533
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 3: do Bonker's business. I think the Like people would be like,

534
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,439
Speaker 3: I can't believe this is ironic, and then they'd say, oh,

535
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 3: Chili's is great.

536
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, they would get it on the bottomless chips.

537
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 3: I think all the chilies, even in my hometown are closed.

538
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 3: What I think they turned the one that was there

539
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:42,880
Speaker 3: into like.

540
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 2: A spirit Halloween.

541
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 3: Spirit Halloween to go. Oh yeah, it's like a furniture

542
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 3: store or something. Now, so that's a shame. Where else

543
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 3: have you had birthdays.

544
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,719
Speaker 2: Let's see Trucky Cheese, which I guess still around.

545
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's still I mean, the fact that they were

546
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,679
Speaker 3: hanging in there continues to be absolutely baffling, especially considering

547
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 3: the fact that they got rid of the robots.

548
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 2: I can't believe it.

549
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 3: Why do they exist? Do they have holograms?

550
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 2: They probably did projections or something.

551
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 3: Right, then it's just bad pizza and dirty carpeting.

552
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, well there's games.

553
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 3: There's games.

554
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 2: Games they used. I used to go to Chucky Cheese

555
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 2: because they had this thing where if you got straight

556
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 2: a's that you get free tokens. Oh every report card

557
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 2: to try.

558
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 3: Of course, how many tokens would they give you?

559
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 2: I don't remember.

560
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 3: That is such a trick to I mean, parents hate that.

561
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 3: They're like, and I know this is gonna end up costing.

562
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 2: Thought about that.

563
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 3: That's predatory, predatory practice. They are going to elementary schools,

564
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 3: tricking children into dragging their parents to their horrible rest.

565
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,439
Speaker 2: Well then I got good grades, that's true, but I

566
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 2: was gonna anyways, you know.

567
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 3: You're headed towards robotics me. Yeah, but maybe not. Maybe

568
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 3: you were saved by chuck E Cheese.

569
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 2: Maybe that's what got education, cheese that and Pizza Hut

570
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 2: and they're reading Challenge.

571
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, book it, yes, book book it.

572
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 3: Of course I did have book It and my mom.

573
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 3: I guess I take after my mom because she wouldn't

574
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 3: buy anything out. You know, we would go and get

575
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 3: the free little pizza. That's all we got out of

576
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 3: the restaurant and left.

577
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 2: That's good.

578
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 3: Took advantage of Pizza Hut. They weren't getting any more

579
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 3: of the family money.

580
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, family, the family money, the family fortune.

581
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 3: Of course.

582
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 2: You know you can. You can get Costco if you

583
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 2: just go in there and then buy a chicken and

584
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 2: walk out Rochestere chicken. They like lose money on that,

585
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 2: banking on you going in and get you of shit Costco.

586
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 3: I mean, I shouldn't say publicly that I'm doing this

587
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 3: because they'll kick me out of the club, let's hear it.

588
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 3: But you know, I am Costco's worst nightmare. I go

589
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 3: in and get the chicken and maybe two other items,

590
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 3: sometimes just the chicken.

591
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 2: Which is then you're doing it. The chicken.

592
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 3: It's five dollars. That doesn't make any at this point,

593
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 3: but for me it makes sense. Wallet sense, yes, make sense.

594
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 2: Okay, keep that family money. That makes sense. Yeah, to

595
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 2: save you have to.

596
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 3: But now I'm probably gonna be barred from Costco. I

597
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 3: don't know. No, Okay, let me have the chicken. Yeah,

598
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 3: you know you they want me to. They're they're putting

599
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 3: it there.

600
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you pay annual or something.

601
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 3: I fight with all the other ladies in line. We

602
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 3: all descend on the chickens. It's like me and seven

603
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 3: grandmothers are all.

604
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 2: There's enough? Are you really just like elbowing grabs out

605
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 2: the way.

606
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 3: You go there? And there's like I think there are

607
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 3: people who really know about the chickens. They like they

608
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 3: know what time to be there and like which ones

609
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 3: are best, and so if you get there when they're

610
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 3: kind of crowding around, yeah, if you're like you'll we'll

611
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 3: see a chicken, you're like, why, we'll just take that one.

612
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 3: But then you're like, oh did I take the wrong chicken?

613
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you're really thinking so hard. I guess

614
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 2: you're paying Emotionally, you're getting a five dollars. You're sitting

615
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 2: there like, why do they know more than me? Why

616
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 2: should I know more about this?

617
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 3: Costco has absolutely devastated me emotionally. Dang, But the mental

618
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 3: toll is worth it. I have chicken for a week

619
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 3: five bucks.

620
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

621
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 3: We could ask for more. Are you a costco shopper?

622
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 2: I go not so often, but we are members. Our

623
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 2: household goes for you know, paper towels, pilet paper, spin drift.

624
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 3: Best dealin oh, I should get spin drift.

625
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 2: There you only get grapefruit, lime and lemon. But like

626
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 2: you're crazy.

627
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no crazy, What are you talking

628
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 3: about it?

629
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 2: It's juicy, too much juice in that.

630
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,360
Speaker 3: Oh. I love the grapefruit, okay, for so many reasons.

631
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 2: Wow, you should come to our house. We just drink

632
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 2: the other two and have all the grapefruit.

633
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 3: I'll stop by and skim off the top. I'll take

634
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 3: all the grapefruits from you. The grapefruit is the one

635
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 3: that you could have with breakfast. I would say if.

636
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 2: People used to have half a grapefruit with breakfast, be

637
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 2: having a half.

638
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 3: A grapefruit every morning. The work that you would have

639
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 3: to put in.

640
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 2: To do that.

641
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to have a butler to have a

642
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 3: half a grapefruit every morning. Who else has the time? Yeah,

643
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 3: or the energy to be like the cutting all of

644
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 3: that nonsense. And I love a gpruit. Yeah, but they

645
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 3: interact with my medication, with my well butrin, so I

646
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 3: can't have them too often.

647
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 2: You can't have a grapefruit spin drift, or you can.

648
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 3: I can? I think who cares? Interact? All you want

649
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 3: get in there and mix up with it. I can't

650
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 3: remember if it makes it worse or like amplifies it

651
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 3: or deadens it. Oh no, but you know, the occasional

652
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 3: grapefruit can't be that harmful.

653
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 2: I can't believe, like modern medicine is so intense and

654
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 2: so like progressive, but it can be taken down by

655
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 2: a great grapefruit.

656
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 3: A mere citrus. What grapefruit is a very strong flavor.

657
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

658
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 3: So I guess there's something happening in there that's doing

659
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 3: all kinds of things in your body. I guess. But

660
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 3: I feel like the spin drift it's only ten percent.

661
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 2: Uh, the grapefruit one is mostly juice?

662
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 3: Is that true?

663
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 2: No? No, no, okay, it's it's less than ten though. Actually,

664
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 2: so you're fine.

665
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 3: They should make extra pulp spin drift.

666
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: No, what are you doing?

667
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 3: Can you imagine?

668
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 2: Oh, someone's going to hear this and go that's a

669
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 2: good idea.

670
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 3: Now, with more poles spin.

671
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 2: Drift now with more pulp. Yeah, there was zero and

672
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 2: now there is and now with pulp.

673
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 3: It feels like something dyed in the can.

674
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 2: Yuck. No, I don't want spin Drift to reach out,

675
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: dunde it.

676
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 3: What's your favorite spin Drift flavor? M If you don't,

677
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 3: if you're not going to Costco.

678
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 2: You just get to pick any of mojito no hito.

679
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,719
Speaker 3: Oh it's called no hito. Yeah, yeah, it's just call

680
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 3: it mohito.

681
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 2: Hey, but there's no uh rum. There's no rum in it,

682
00:29:58,320 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 2: you know.

683
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 3: I like the mohito flavor. Do like that flavor? No heato?

684
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 3: Is there a raspberry flavor?

685
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 2: Probably? But I'm not into that.

686
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 3: Okay, I think I like that one too. Okay, there's

687
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 3: like a berry ish. I know we'll have to do

688
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 3: like spin Drift exchanges.

689
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be nice.

690
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 3: Oh I've got this crappy flavor, come take it. I

691
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 3: like the lemon tea flavor.

692
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: Oh, I like that one too.

693
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 3: That's a good one.

694
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 2: The half and half.

695
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 3: It feels like the like single parent flavor. Oh, I

696
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 3: don't know. Like if I'm a single dad, I want

697
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 3: the tea and lemonade. The kids won't drink it. It's

698
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 3: my little spin little thing. The kids don't like it.

699
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 3: When I have the kids for the weekend, I'm drinking

700
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 3: my lemon tea spin.

701
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 2: Keeping you happy that weekend. You're like, oh, the kids

702
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 2: are here, Thank God, I've got my half and half tea.

703
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 2: Spin Drift absolutely, spinder free trout, We've got an ad free.

704
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 3: We have a so long about your drink. If we

705
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 3: don't each get a palette of our favorite flavor, please, Also,

706
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 3: we should get to consult on the next flavor. I'm

707
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 3: talking to you spin Drift. Oh yeah, I feel like

708
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 3: there should be we should be behind the next flavor

709
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 3: of spin Drift.

710
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 2: Call us.

711
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 3: I have ideas. I'm not going to say them on

712
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 3: air because then I'll just steal my ideas.

713
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 2: Reach out and we'll tell you what we're thinking.

714
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 3: Take us to spin Drift Labs wherever the hell those are.

715
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 2: You know, I'll say one idea on air so they

716
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 2: can have a bad okay, little bubblegum gross. And that's

717
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 2: the type of ideas you want receive.

718
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 3: If you call us, you're going to get the opposite

719
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 3: good one perfect ideas. There's something else we have to

720
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 3: talk about. Now that we've each received our fifty thousand

721
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 3: dollars payment from spin Drift, which we were promised at

722
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 3: the beginning of the episode. I have to talk to

723
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 3: you about something else, which I don't want to. I

724
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 3: don't want to approach this in any way, but unfortunately,

725
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 3: how could I not. I was excited to have you

726
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 3: here today. I was thinking, we'll have a nice conversation,

727
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 3: nothing could possibly go wrong, and then we'll move on

728
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 3: with our days. I'll get my haircut and be on

729
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 3: Cloud nine. It's Cloud nine. It's just for general happiness,

730
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 3: right when you get a good haircut. Little surprise the

731
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 3: podcast is called I said no gifts, and you came

732
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 3: walking in holding what I would describe as something that

733
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 3: looks like a gift. Yeah, it's as neatly wrapped. Oh,

734
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 3: actually pretty heavy.

735
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

736
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 3: I'm lifting it for the first time on the episode

737
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 3: in kind of a long rectangle gift. Yes, is this

738
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 3: for me?

739
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: I I'm so sorry. I thought you were being coy.

740
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 2: I said no gifts, and I said, oh, come on,

741
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 2: my mom raised me better than that, right, I can't

742
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 2: throw up to a new place I've never been. You know,

743
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 2: it's kind of like a housewarming. This is your house,

744
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: you live here.

745
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 3: This is my home you live. It's leaving bag in

746
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 3: the corner.

747
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 2: I see it. I'm looking at it smells terrible. No, no,

748
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 2: you're okay. And so yeah, unfortunately I did bring a gift.

749
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 2: I allow that.

750
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 3: We'll show I opening hair on the podcast.

751
00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: Ye please, all right.

752
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 3: It's wrapped in the La Times newspaper, which I support.

753
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 3: I support wrapping in the La Times. Politically, the La

754
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 3: Times is in a difficult place.

755
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

756
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 3: Their food section is good. I follow their food editor.

757
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I checked that on that.

758
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 3: I can't remember her name, but she's always posting good things. Uh.

759
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 3: And you got the sports section. I should probably check

760
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 3: in with my boys.

761
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 2: You check them out like sports, not at all.

762
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 3: But it's all sports.

763
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 2: Great, it's and entertainment, entertainment.

764
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 3: Uh okay, so open it right now? Yeah, okay. We

765
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 3: rarely get to rip a newspaper.

766
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 2: Look at that.

767
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 3: Oh queer.

768
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 2: For you.

769
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 3: There you go, that's me. Check that out, okay, ripping Chris.

770
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 3: Oh and I just yelled the word queer. If someone's

771
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 3: not watching the episode.

772
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 2: Just driving in their cars, yell queer. It's part of

773
00:33:58,960 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 2: the wrapping paper.

774
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 3: Everyone, it's part of the newspaper. It's the queer lens,

775
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 3: a history of photography and add for that.

776
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 2: It's oh my god, what's happening? What do you think

777
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 2: it is? You probably still don't know, or do you?

778
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 3: Okay, so so far, it's a little briefcase, silish briefcase

779
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 3: that almost looks like it's from the set of a

780
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 3: Wes Anderson film or something. It's navy blue with red trim. Yes, gorgeous.

781
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 2: Check that out. And we're opening careful with the insides.

782
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 3: Okay, gonna be very it's it full of marbles maybe

783
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 3: kind of Oh huh, I just like that opening.

784
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, sounds it's a good sound.

785
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 3: Hopefully the listener likes that. Oh, it's almost like a

786
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 3: bubbly Okay, we're opening. Opening is a gorgeous is a Backgammon.

787
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 2: Kit to travel Backgammon set set?

788
00:34:52,400 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 3: Just the kit? This is beautiful. Wow. Have I've never

789
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 3: played Backgammon? And even like saying I was hoping hopefully

790
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 3: this is what it is? It is, I was correct.

791
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 3: I'm a gamer gamer at heart. Let's see. Let me

792
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 3: spread this. I'll close my laptop for a minute.

793
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 2: Play that use. I actually haven't seen the inside.

794
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 3: Oh it's pretty good, so beautiful.

795
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 2: I'm glad. It's from the seventies, so it's actually just

796
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 2: like a vintage backmage.

797
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 3: Where did this come from?

798
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 2: I found it on I think on Ittsy because there's

799
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 2: so many like new factory made backgam in sets. But

800
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,919
Speaker 2: part of I think the specialness of a backgammon board

801
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 2: is that it is of old times. It's such an

802
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 2: old game that I wanted to bring you like a

803
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 2: cool old set.

804
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 3: This is Do you know how to play backgammon? Yes?

805
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 2: So backgammon is like kind of huge. I'm Persian and

806
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if we invented this game. I certainly

807
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 2: do not check me how we invented it any ron.

808
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 3: It came from us ancient nobody look into it.

809
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 2: Nobody check that that could be correct. It's part of

810
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 2: the culture though, Like my parents play, my grandparents play.

811
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 2: When like you go to a Persian party, sort of

812
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 2: toward the end of the night, everyone's sitting around drinking

813
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 2: black tea and just kind of like playing some backgammon.

814
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 2: My grandpa taught me how to play and just brings

815
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 2: me peace and reminds me of my family, and I

816
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 2: wanted to share that with that.

817
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,959
Speaker 3: It's so sweet. Where where does the word backgammon come from.

818
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,720
Speaker 2: Don't ask me questions like this come on.

819
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,760
Speaker 3: At least help help educate. This is a utility podcast. Ultimately,

820
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 3: when people learn this is this is the one show

821
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 3: people come to to learn. So if we can find

822
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 3: out where the words backgammon.

823
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 2: Is from, yeah, and we just want to know that,

824
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,720
Speaker 2: and don't tell me who made this game.

825
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 3: And avoid any other fact about the game. It's I

826
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 3: wonder what, like the first games of backgammon even looked

827
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 3: like yeah, because this is obviously an evolved version. Although

828
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 3: I love the idea of this, like this is an

829
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 3: ancient Persian design. Yeah, brief case seventies coloring, it's.

830
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 4: From the Middle English forms of game and back, so

831
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 4: it's back and like gommon basically gommona game.

832
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 2: I didn't learn anything from that. I don't know.

833
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 3: That's a bad name for a game that tells you

834
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 3: nothing about Yeah, it sounds good, but it's like, well,

835
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 3: what game are we playing here? Yeah?

836
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 2: Let me try to think of it has anything to

837
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 2: do with the gameplay, back, end game, no.

838
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 3: Bactly game? So how do you play this? Let's do

839
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 3: a quick tutorial.

840
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 2: Oh boy, this is such a visual look at it.

841
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 3: I'll commentate on you. Let's let's you put these dice.

842
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 3: There are two dice, three.

843
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 2: There's three dice. Well, I don't start in my family.

844
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 2: I don't use the third one. That's just sort of

845
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 2: like if you want to double your wins.

846
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 3: Or you can chew on it.

847
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can chew on it. That's this is your board.

848
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 2: You do you chew on that if you like.

849
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 3: It has multipliers of two.

850
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 2: I guess you can multiply. If you're like certain you're

851
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,959
Speaker 2: going to win, you can roll the multiplier. Okay, because

852
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 2: when you play back game and you play like a

853
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: best of five for a best of three, if you

854
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 2: want a shorter game. Uh, but yeah, you set up

855
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 2: the board in a specific way. You can google the picture.

856
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 2: I'm not going to see five go three.

857
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 3: Go here?

858
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 2: Right and then so basically your side you have a

859
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 2: home and on my side, I have a home, and

860
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 2: we're just trying to get all of our colored pieces

861
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 2: all the way into our home and then remove them

862
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 2: all and put them back into the safe.

863
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:29,959
Speaker 3: Looks.

864
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 2: See, I don't even know what these words the words

865
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 2: for the game are.

866
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 3: So it's a little checkersy kind of.

867
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a little bit like sorry too, because you're

868
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 2: trying to get pieces back into your home.

869
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 3: I think i've ever played Sorry.

870
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 2: Okay, well sorry, I brought it up par cheesy then never.

871
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 3: I've certainly never played.

872
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 2: Party just sorry, but a different name, unbranded? Yeah, well

873
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 2: par cheesy? Branded?

874
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 3: Is parteesy? A brand name?

875
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 2: Is it?

876
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 3: Par cheesy? Seems to me like the real name of Sorry. Then,

877
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 3: like Milton Bradley Hopkins and picked it out. Let's put

878
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 3: some branding on this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, make people apologize

879
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:00,439
Speaker 3: to each other.

880
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 2: Yes, I like this game. It's pretty peaceful. It's like

881
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 2: a logic counting game. It like speaks to my math

882
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 2: brain and my grandpa. Okay, so you make bets? Okay, damn.

883
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 2: So it's kind of fun that way. Like anytime I

884
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 2: played with my mom, We're like, okay, so what are

885
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 2: we betting on?

886
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 3: And how much are you betting?

887
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 2: Usually just like a round of coffee or who buys

888
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,919
Speaker 2: ice cream? Now, oh that's a good bets, like Cudi stack.

889
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 3: Okay, that's the sort of thing I could get into

890
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,760
Speaker 3: where I'm not stressing out about losing money.

891
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 2: Yes, But when I was like I think I was

892
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 2: like nine, and I was playing with my grandpa who's

893
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 2: like a master. And I was like so confident. I said,

894
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 2: I bet you twenty dollars, which I had from my allowance,

895
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 2: right that I'll beat you. And this man was like, okay,

896
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 2: he fully beat me. He took my twenty oh, and

897
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 2: he would yeah, well, And I respect the hell out

898
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 2: of this because he was like, you learn now, learn now,

899
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 2: you learned.

900
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 3: I had an opposite thing that happened to me as

901
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 3: a kid is our parents were trying to teach us

902
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,280
Speaker 3: that you shouldn't gamble. And I think we like played

903
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 3: a game of poker or whatever and something much easier

904
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 3: for children, and I won big and not my parents

905
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 3: thinking oh, they'll all lose and they'll lose their money,

906
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 3: and they refuse to give me the money. So I

907
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 3: guess that is also a game about gambling. You know,

908
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 3: the casino people, the mobsters charge about the money. You're

909
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 3: not going to give you all the money.

910
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 2: Hey, if you actually want to know that, you'd get

911
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 2: the money.

912
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 3: But when you start winning too much, then Robert de

913
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 3: Niro shows off and curbs you or whatever.

914
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 2: That's true.

915
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 3: So you've got to be careful with gambling. Yeah, So

916
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 3: but to start, you just kind of I want to.

917
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can use those. We just use our hands

918
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 2: in my family. But they give you a little roller.

919
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 3: There is more hygienic. You don't have to wash your

920
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 3: hands after totally listen to that.

921
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 2: You roll it.

922
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 3: I can just do that for twenty minutes for the listener.

923
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 2: That's truly quiet.

924
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 3: And so you do this, and then I roll them

925
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 3: into my thing.

926
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 2: You roll them into any spot. You can roll them

927
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 2: anywhere wherever you like, as long as it's on the board,

928
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 2: off or you reroll. So you got a five and

929
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 2: a two, so you can either move one piece seven

930
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 2: or one piece five and one piece two.

931
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 3: So and listener, I know you're so engaged with this,

932
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 3: but I do want to do this, and you have

933
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 3: that patience. This is what a podcast is. It's listening

934
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 3: to a man learn how to play a complicated How.

935
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 2: Dare I do this? I should have foreseen that you

936
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 2: were just going to be like, now, how do you

937
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 2: play this game?

938
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 3: No? I want to just so you say I can roll,

939
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 3: I can move two or five.

940
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 2: Yes, but we haven't set up the board, so you

941
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 2: can't do anything.

942
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 3: Oh, so how do you set up the Are you serious?

943
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 3: I just want to see how it.

944
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 2: I'll do it.

945
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 3: Really, the listener has to be patient. This is how

946
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 3: the gate I mean, last episode they listened to me

947
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 3: open like maybe one or two episodes ago, open like

948
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 3: nineteen layers of a gift. So I think that two minutes.

949
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 2: Of set it up.

950
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 3: She's taking out the blue pieces, the kind of uh

951
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 3: they're probably the size of like a thin mint, and

952
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 3: they do look like something I would want to know

953
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 3: on their dark I don't want to eat all game

954
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 3: that has hard plastic like this makes me hungry. It

955
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,959
Speaker 3: looks like a satisfying snap.

956
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 2: Okay, that's not that's up here.

957
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 3: Okay, so she's put the blue ones in on different things,

958
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 3: but she left one blue one in the little holder.

959
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 2: I don't know what's an extra one. That's it's just

960
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 2: an extra piece.

961
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 3: So I'm spoiled.

962
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 2: It's just for you.

963
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 3: You can on that one deep in backgammon coins? Is

964
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 3: that what they're called.

965
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 2: I actually don't know what the pieces are called. Look

966
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 2: at you asking me all this stuff.

967
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 3: I don't know.

968
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, I just play with my grandpa. Reminds you

969
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 2: of my family, and I love you, Ron.

970
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 3: And now it's been set up, and.

971
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is my home. This is your home.

972
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 3: Okay.

973
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 2: So you're you're you are white, I'm white, and I'm blue, okay,

974
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 2: and so you would be trying to take your white

975
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 2: pieces and put them all in here, all right.

976
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 3: But this is my home. Oh and I'm on this,

977
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 3: So you move.

978
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 2: Like if you wanted to. Yeah, you're going this way

979
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,959
Speaker 2: and I'm going this way into my home.

980
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 3: Okay. So now considering my two and five right now,

981
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 3: I do want to at least move one piece. Where

982
00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 3: what can I do?

983
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 2: So a good move for five. Here's the other thing.

984
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 2: You never want to leave one of your little puck

985
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 2: pieces alone because then if I roll something, I could

986
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 2: crush you and then you're killed.

987
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,479
Speaker 3: Ultimately, it's a game about community, ultimately, community and home.

988
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,439
Speaker 2: Hey, for me, that's what it is. But we're really

989
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 2: getting that's kind of what you want to know about.

990
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 2: Someone's hairs are in this vintage board.

991
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 3: That's probably a dead person.

992
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 2: And I'm so sorry.

993
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 3: This could be a haunted Uh.

994
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 2: You'd be so lucky to be haunted by someone backgammon.

995
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 2: It actually would be a nice experience. The ghost makes

996
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 2: you tea every day.

997
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just hear diet there in the background and

998
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 3: the satisfying little thing rolling around.

999
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you smoke cucka with a ghost.

1000
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 3: Oh that sounds great, not bad. Okay, So now there's

1001
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 3: a piece in the middle of the board.

1002
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 2: That's what I'm showing you. If you got killed, this

1003
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 2: is where there's a little bit of violence, and then

1004
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 2: to get this piece back in play, you would roll

1005
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 2: and then you have to sit it back in your home.

1006
00:43:59,280 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 3: Okay.

1007
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 2: So like if you roll the two, you could sit

1008
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 2: it in the two spot.

1009
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 3: So that's why I wouldn't want to take a two.

1010
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: Right now, That's why you wouldn't want to leave them

1011
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 2: by themselves.

1012
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 3: I want to. I would want to take a five.

1013
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 2: You could do five. Five is good because it friends

1014
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 2: with other friends, and then you could actually take the

1015
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,919
Speaker 2: two play the same thing too.

1016
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 3: That far already you're.

1017
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,919
Speaker 2: A little bit safe. Yeah you got one guy back home.

1018
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 3: I love this. I feel like I can really get

1019
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 3: to This is a game that I It's in the

1020
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 3: same category as badminton, sure, where it's pleasant listening, no

1021
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 3: one gets hurt. Gay, that is what I'm saying. This

1022
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 3: feels a gay friendly. Oh yeah, it's stylish, it's got

1023
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 3: everything you need. And I could play this while eating

1024
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 3: a grapefruit and you do from my butler.

1025
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 2: You just yes, your butler comes over. You snack, yes,

1026
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 2: eat sweets, you drink tea. There's actually a Silver Lake

1027
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,760
Speaker 2: backgam and club of it. I've been to. I've been twice.

1028
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 2: I'm banned and actually, let's let's not talk about it.

1029
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 2: They have very inconsistent events. You just kind of like

1030
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 2: have to check the Instagram to see, uh, right, when

1031
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 2: they're when they're playing. But it's really nice. It's just

1032
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 2: a bunch of people playing back agad.

1033
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,240
Speaker 3: I need to join a club. I should I should

1034
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 3: join a club. Okay, are you part of any clubs? No?

1035
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 2: No, No, I think we have enough community where we

1036
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 2: don't need to like join clubs.

1037
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 3: Right, there's just so much within comedy that we're all

1038
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 3: just trapped with each other. None. No, maybe there's no

1039
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 3: out of this community.

1040
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 2: Essentially, what like, it's a cult, that's what you're saying.

1041
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 3: Basically a very unhealthy cult.

1042
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 2: Hey, but all my friends are in this club.

1043
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 3: Wait, how often that's been.

1044
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 2: Said about colts generally?

1045
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 3: How could it possibly be a cult? I love all

1046
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 3: of these people.

1047
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 2: Well, no one's harming me.

1048
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 3: They're all so nice to me.

1049
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 2: Look I write you a game.

1050
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 3: They want to be around me all the time. Yeah,

1051
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 3: they won't let me go. Oh these people care about me.

1052
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 2: Okay, shoot, I can't think about that too hard.

1053
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 3: Not thanks, Okay, Well, I'm excited to actually learn how

1054
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 3: to play this.

1055
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I could teach you more in depth.

1056
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 2: I just sort of like, this is not the place

1057
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 2: for me to.

1058
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 3: Give you the yeah, to be like mildly conscious of

1059
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 3: a listener falling asleep at the wheel. They're clear, I

1060
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 3: welcome up now they're over correcting the cars rolling across

1061
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 3: the freeway, whipple ash event. Okay, I'm very excited about this.

1062
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 3: Are there any other games like this you play like this?

1063
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I'm not too into board games, but

1064
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 2: if anyone's got a board game night going on, I'm

1065
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 2: happy to join. I'm very competitive, so it's kind of

1066
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 2: bad you kind of don't want me there if you're

1067
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 2: just trying. I can okay, but I'm like pretty harmless,

1068
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 2: and uh, when I get angry, people usually laugh at me,

1069
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 2: so it's kind of fun. Actually scared of me. I'm

1070
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 2: just started sitting there going like the roses, that's so

1071
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 2: non threatening.

1072
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 3: That's the person you want someone who's competitive but not

1073
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 3: an asshole.

1074
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sort of like a jigglypuff when when she

1075
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,959
Speaker 2: gets mad when everyone falls asleep at her singing that's

1076
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 2: intended to make people fall asleep, and then she's.

1077
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 3: Like, poor character, that poor character has been cursed. All

1078
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 3: she can do is kind of is puff she. I

1079
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 3: would say they they probably ultimately we've talked about Kirby

1080
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 3: on this podcast before and kind of I think we decided.

1081
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 2: They they them for Kirby.

1082
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 3: But uh, Yeahglypuff I think is a she? They yeah, yeah, yeah,

1083
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 3: And her life is a living hell.

1084
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 2: I can't believe it. Poor.

1085
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 3: All she wants to do is be a star. It's

1086
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 3: very Greek, very Greek tragedy, like yeah, like the gods

1087
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,479
Speaker 3: say you can, you'll be able to sing, but it'll

1088
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 3: put everyone to sleep.

1089
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they'll never know, they'll never know how good you.

1090
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 3: Are, the poor little thing. And she's gorgeous she is,

1091
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 3: but they are, they are. Yes, she's such a fun

1092
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 3: character and Smash Brothers almost worthless, but she gets to

1093
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 3: float around and put everyone to sleep or what have you?

1094
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 3: These pink Nintendo characters everybody loves someone.

1095
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 2: I know, they're the best ones.

1096
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 3: They look like Marshmallows. Yeah, and Kirby's a little more powerful.

1097
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 3: I will say.

1098
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I play Kirby for Super Smash.

1099
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 3: Right, and I make everyone mad because I just do

1100
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 3: the slam.

1101
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 2: That's the only move I do. We're the same, I'm

1102
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 2: just slamming from this guy, right.

1103
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. Anyone that's actually good at the game is mad

1104
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 3: at me. They're saying you're cheating, and I'm saying, well,

1105
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 3: then they shouldn't have put the move in.

1106
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not cheating.

1107
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 3: I'm using the power of the character.

1108
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 2: Right.

1109
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 3: I'm sorry that I know how to play the game

1110
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 3: and you're being fancy.

1111
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 2: You're vindicated.

1112
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 3: It's a game of brute force, and ultimately Kirby can

1113
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:58,240
Speaker 3: become an anvil or a rock a rock. They should

1114
00:48:58,239 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 3: do a heavy backgammon piece, that'll be.

1115
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 2: That's sure, they should. Why not?

1116
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 3: They should be a little more creative.

1117
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 2: Things they could do, for like a piano, grand piano.

1118
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, grand piano is a great idea.

1119
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think heavy backgam in board.

1120
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 3: Would require a lot of explaining. There would have to

1121
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 3: be like a notification that popped up on the screen.

1122
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 2: That's a bad idea for you, Nintendo. But if you

1123
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 2: want good ones again.

1124
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 3: We can come by. We can come by after our

1125
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 3: stopped spin Drift. It'll be a busy day for us

1126
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 3: pitching idea.

1127
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we're happy to.

1128
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 3: We're ultimately drinkers and gamers, and so these companies reach out. Please.

1129
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 3: Is there any I feel like Smash Brothers got all

1130
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 3: the characters they need. I'm wondering if there's any other

1131
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:41,439
Speaker 3: character I would like them to put in the game.

1132
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 2: It'd be fun if you could put yourself sort of

1133
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 2: in the game.

1134
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 3: I don't like when people put that, like the me character.

1135
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 2: Character an Ai scam copy of Just You Bridgery.

1136
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 3: In the game fully motion captured. It might be be

1137
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 3: on board for that.

1138
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like power you grow hair and then it

1139
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 2: chokes the other character long wavy locks.

1140
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 3: Oh that's great. Have you ever played the game Bayonetta.

1141
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 3: There's a video game called Bayonetta where the woman's like

1142
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 3: a witch kind of looks like Sarah Palin and her

1143
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 3: hair like strangles people and it's incredible, And she's a

1144
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 3: character in Smash Brothers.

1145
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, so I believe somebody already.

1146
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 3: Has are they're ahead of us of those stuff things?

1147
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,280
Speaker 3: Get back to me. Yeah, I wonder what my Smash

1148
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 3: Brothers has. Those gloves, you know, the white gloves, and

1149
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 3: this podcast has a very glove forward theme. I do

1150
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 3: a lot, or I used to do a lot more

1151
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 3: of these, but I would do demos with the gifts

1152
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 3: and I would be wearing a pair of opera gloves

1153
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 3: now pepper.

1154
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 2: Gloves for my viage seventies.

1155
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 3: I think that they're probably going to come into play.

1156
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 3: I will have to do a video with these. They

1157
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 3: show up at the live shows more often, which I

1158
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 3: think is becoming continually confusing for listeners who hadn't seen

1159
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 3: those videos, and they're like, why is he wearing these

1160
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 3: filthy opera gloves?

1161
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 2: That makes sense, I'd be confused.

1162
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 3: But then you say, well, look, I'll just go along

1163
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 3: with it because I'm a good sport. I'm a good

1164
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:58,280
Speaker 3: audience member.

1165
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 2: Of course, and we trust you.

1166
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 3: Everyone trusts me inherently for some reason. After listening to

1167
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 3: this show, Well, is there anything left you you'd like

1168
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 3: to say about Backgaming?

1169
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think I've said it all. It's

1170
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 2: just pretty special. I grew up with this game, and

1171
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 2: it took a weird time with Iran right now, So

1172
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 2: I was really thinking about my fan.

1173
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 3: All the wonderful things that Iran has done.

1174
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,720
Speaker 2: Yes, it's actually got like a cool, extremely beautiful, artistic culture,

1175
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 2: and I was reflecting on all that, and I wanted

1176
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 2: to bring you back.

1177
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,280
Speaker 3: I think that's so lovely. I think that's really wonderful.

1178
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,439
Speaker 3: Not to mention all of the wonderful food that's coming

1179
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 3: out of it.

1180
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean, come.

1181
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 3: On, there's just so much people need to be talking.

1182
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 3: I think more about the good things coming out of Iran.

1183
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, we do a lot of sweet savory in the food, oh,

1184
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 2: which I love. I sneak in something sweet in kind

1185
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 2: of every day sweet delicious. Yeah.

1186
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 3: Well, I think we should now play another game, okay,

1187
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 3: game of my own design. We're gonna play a game

1188
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 3: called Gift mess sure, okay, and maybe we should. I'm

1189
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 3: gonna just kind of cough. I usually ask for the

1190
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 3: guests to pick a number, but I want you to

1191
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 3: roll a number. Why not?

1192
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:15,479
Speaker 2: I have rolled a three?

1193
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 3: Three? Okay. I hope that nice satisfying dice got roll

1194
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 3: got on mic guys from today. I know this is

1195
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 3: maybe our best episode. Those are the coins or the

1196
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 3: backgammon cookies following on each other. Can I just bite one.

1197
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 2: Go for it now. That sound was good, but I

1198
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 2: bet not great in your mouth right?

1199
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 3: Terrible? Okay, at least my teeth didn't dissolve, would crumb? Okay?

1200
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 3: You roll a three? Yep? Okay. I have to do

1201
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 3: some like calculating to get our game pieces, so math

1202
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 3: for you. I mean, that's what the show is that today,

1203
00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 3: Ridgerd the math whiz reach out for me to calculate

1204
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 3: anything right now, you can do some promotion, recommendation, whatever

1205
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 3: you want to do with the mikeel be right back.

1206
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 2: Oh okay, promotion, I guess I'll self promo me if

1207
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 2: you want to follow me at child Clown on Instagram.

1208
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 2: That's just kind of a name I chose years ago

1209
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 2: and I'm freaking sticking to it, you know, yeah, if

1210
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 2: you just follow me all I'm doing shows around La

1211
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 2: all the time, improv sketch and oh. We do this

1212
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 2: show called Mama Mia but different. It's pretty good. We

1213
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 2: do a different jukebox musical with eight abba songs. The

1214
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 2: story is different every time though, So that's a really

1215
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 2: fun show to check out if you want. We've done

1216
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 2: one where it's taken place in the nick you It

1217
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 2: was formula babies verus breastfeeding babies. We'd done one in

1218
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 2: like old timey renaissance town about a love triangle with

1219
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 2: a baker and two ladies from the woods. Anyway, it

1220
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 2: gets weird. So that's a good show. Just follow me.

1221
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 2: You can see shows like that. That's my promo.

1222
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 3: Excellent promo. Thank you Mama and Mia, but different. It

1223
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 3: seems so wild every single time, and it sure is.

1224
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,240
Speaker 3: And it's our and Patrick McDonald one of the busiest

1225
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 3: man's in the city, he demands, one of the busiest men.

1226
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 2: The busiest man's I ever met. He does it all.

1227
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 2: Love that guy.

1228
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 3: This is how we play gift Master. I'm going to

1229
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,879
Speaker 3: name three things, three items gifts that you can give away.

1230
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,399
Speaker 3: I'm name three celebrities and you can tell me which

1231
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 3: celebrity you would give which gift and why.

1232
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 2: Oh shoot, okay, oh shoot, oh shoot. I'm just like

1233
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 2: I hope I know these celebrities.

1234
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 3: We'll all the celebrities hopefully, Okay, we'll see Okay. The

1235
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 3: gifts you'll be giving today are number one, a trip

1236
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 3: to the hospital, Number two of Vegas residency, and number

1237
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 3: three inescapable debt. Now, the celebrities you'll be giving them too.

1238
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 3: Are number one Tim Allen rough Rough I don't know

1239
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 3: how to make the actual noise he makes, but who cares.

1240
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 3: Number two is Et the Extra Terrestrial love Et. That's

1241
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 3: some pitch from our producer on.

1242
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:01,240
Speaker 2: At least that's perfect.

1243
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,879
Speaker 3: And number three is Javier Bardam Oh okay, handsome as ever.

1244
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, great guy. Lovely Bond villain.

1245
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,879
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, very scary Bond villain. He's willing to look

1246
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 3: scary despite being very good looking.

1247
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:12,879
Speaker 2: Right.

1248
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 3: You think about No Country for Old Men, one of

1249
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 3: the weirdest looking people in movies. Yeah, then you see

1250
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,760
Speaker 3: him outside of it and you think, wow, what a transform.

1251
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 3: That's a transformation.

1252
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 2: That's right.

1253
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 3: You put a bad haircut on a good looking man,

1254
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 3: it'll ruin.

1255
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 2: That's kind of it.

1256
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 3: Okay, so I've named everything.

1257
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 2: I guess, Okay, great, Shoot, this is tough because I'm

1258
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,760
Speaker 2: trying to Like, I had an instinct to give somebody

1259
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 2: a certain gift, and then I was like, well that

1260
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 2: falls poorly on my The other guys, right, I really

1261
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 2: figure this out.

1262
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 3: It's amaze.

1263
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 2: I guess if I give Tim Allen inescapable debt, I

1264
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 2: feel like he can outrun that.

1265
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 3: Well, here's what I'm going to say, and don't let

1266
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 3: this sway you. That's just going to give him more

1267
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 3: of a reason to work, Yeah, and make more.

1268
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 2: To really look at him a lot longer.

1269
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 1: Right.

1270
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 3: Do you see some of these ultra rich celebrities that

1271
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 3: don't stop working, You think they must have gambling debt? Sure,

1272
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 3: so that could be the situation where we would never

1273
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 3: got it. Right.

1274
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 2: Here's where I'm struggling because Et is my favorite in

1275
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 2: those three, right, and I want to give Et kind

1276
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 2: of the best one. But so I think Et is

1277
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:24,760
Speaker 2: getting a residency in Vegas, okay, And and we're putting

1278
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 2: Et on a visa, so the government can't can't.

1279
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 3: I mean, it doesn't matter rules the laws.

1280
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 2: I could to protect Et, because if I send Et

1281
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 2: to the hospital, the government's going to come for him.

1282
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 2: If I send Et to inescapable debt, the government's going

1283
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 2: to chase him even more than they already chasing him,

1284
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 2: you know. And then if you give him a residency,

1285
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 2: I hope he's stayed protected. I just want Et to

1286
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 2: be okay, And my parents live in Vegas. They can

1287
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 2: go check out show. I can stay with them and

1288
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 2: go watch ET's show.

1289
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 3: What do you think et would do live on drag totally. Yeah,

1290
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 3: he's already done dress the sinking. Such danger in today's

1291
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,919
Speaker 3: political environment. Or a guy, God, he's an alien. He's

1292
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 3: doing drag. The only protection is giving him Vegas connections.

1293
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 3: That's the only thing that will protect you from Donald

1294
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 3: Trump is somehow being attached to gambling.

1295
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 2: Yes, so I'm putting eat there in Vegas.

1296
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 3: It's a safe spot.

1297
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 2: Yes, oh mm hmm. I'm giving Javier Bardem the debt

1298
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 2: because if he keeps working, I'm happy about it. Love

1299
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 2: to see him keep working.

1300
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 3: That would be fantastic.

1301
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 2: It'd be lovely.

1302
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 3: Get this guy on a career treadmill, sure, put.

1303
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 2: Him on Broadway, put him on a TV show.

1304
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 3: I'll watch a multicam somebody else gam he's.

1305
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 2: The scariest guy with a big heart in something. It's

1306
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 2: just a guy from no country for old man. It

1307
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 2: just like works at a convenience store. He's the same guy,

1308
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 2: but it's a multicamp.

1309
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 3: Now he's the new stepdad in the family. They're like,

1310
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 3: there's something wrong with Dad's not gonna be the name

1311
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,439
Speaker 3: of the new Chuck Lori show. There's something wrong with Dad.

1312
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 2: It would be Chuck lory too that you would put

1313
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 2: the put Javier Bardem in there. Dad has a history, Yes,

1314
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 2: and then Tim headed to the hospital. Sorry, buddy.

1315
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 3: The only thing I will say about a trip to

1316
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 3: the hospital, I do think ET a trip to the

1317
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 3: hospital more as a service animal.

1318
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 2: Mmm. So you think it is visiting the hosp.

1319
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 3: He's visiting the hospital visiting sick children. I think that

1320
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 3: would be very It's kind of nice thinking selfies with

1321
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 3: sick kids.

1322
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 2: But if you put him in the hospital, that's like

1323
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 2: where they're gonna cut him open to see what alien

1324
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 2: is case.

1325
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 3: That's kind of part of ET where he goes through

1326
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 3: the scary tunnel. Yeah, you don't want that Elliott screaming.

1327
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 3: That was very hard for me to watch as a child.

1328
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 3: But maybe ET needs that exposure to a good hospital setting.

1329
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 2: So you're trying to pitch me send an ET to

1330
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 2: the hospital.

1331
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 3: I think ET is at home in the hospital or

1332
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 3: on stage in Vegas.

1333
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 2: I'm settled in Vegas, in Vegas.

1334
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 3: ET phone hospital. Now I don't know. Well, I think

1335
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 3: you played very well. Thank you, very thoughtful, very thoughtful. Okay,

1336
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 3: now we on Alyse has a we're playing. We also

1337
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 3: play a game called gift or a curse. We're doing

1338
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 3: the mini to go version with Honalise today, So Honale

1339
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 3: is gonna name something and we're each going to say

1340
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 3: if it's a gift or a curse and why. Then

1341
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:11,959
Speaker 3: Analise will tell us if we're a right or wrong

1342
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 3: because they have the correct answer. Answer, there's a right answer. Okay, Honalise,

1343
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 3: what are we doing today?

1344
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 4: Gift or a curse?

1345
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 3: Group discounts, group discounts? Do you want to go or

1346
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 3: do you want me to go?

1347
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 2: Uh? You go ahead?

1348
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 3: Okay. I think group discounts. Group discounts are a curse,

1349
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 3: an absolute curse. I don't like any discount that has

1350
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 3: a qualification. I want to be able to show up

1351
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 3: without my family, without my friends. Maybe I'm a drifter.

1352
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 3: We're not thinking about drifters when we're talking about group discounts.

1353
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 3: They come in from out of town, they murder someone,

1354
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 3: they want to go to an escape room. Sure the

1355
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 3: group discount is not offered to them.

1356
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 2: They murdered someone, they've murdered.

1357
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 3: Someone, They want to have some fun, and they're like, well,

1358
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 3: I don't have anybody in this town. I don't know anybody,

1359
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 3: and now I don't get the discount. You have to

1360
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 3: ultimately any discount. Shoot, if you're going to give a

1361
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 3: percentage off, you should be able to give it to

1362
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 3: a family of fifteen or someone who just pulled up

1363
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 3: in a rickety old car covered in blood.

1364
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 2: Do you want equality for drifters drifters?

1365
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 3: Yes, ultimately for drifters. Okay, I think it's a curse.

1366
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 2: I was also going to say curse, but not for

1367
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 2: your reason where you want murderers to have a nice

1368
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 2: time at the escape room. I sort of was thinking

1369
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 2: that it's it's a nice idea, but organizing a group

1370
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 2: to go do something sucks. And then you have the

1371
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 2: person one or two people dropping out the day of

1372
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 2: and you had exactly the right number, and now you're like,

1373
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 2: now we don't put the discountbard And then you have

1374
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 2: to hang out in a large, large group. I don't

1375
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 2: love that, right, I love smaller group hangs.

1376
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 3: Oh me too.

1377
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 2: So I'd pay any money to not have the emotional

1378
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 2: labor of putting together a group. Are hanging out in

1379
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 2: a large large group setting just for a discount.

1380
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 3: All right, I agree with you. Let's see, Honalise, what

1381
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 3: is the answer.

1382
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 4: You both win the games. It's a curse. It's a

1383
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 4: curse for all of the reasons mentioned above. It is

1384
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 4: a nightmare trying to organize people. And also what, I'm single,

1385
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 4: so I don't get a discount. There's already enough things

1386
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 4: that are going against me in this world.

1387
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 3: Like you're a drifter to.

1388
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 2: Think about the murder thing.

1389
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 3: We don't know where Honaly is from. They refuse to

1390
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 3: give any information to us. We've never seen an ID

1391
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 3: or home address. All right, cool, so we don't know. Uh,

1392
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 3: we're just always on edge around onlyse no.

1393
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 4: I mean I do frequent escape rooms.

1394
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 3: So just saying, do not give this person a reason

1395
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 3: to kill. Well, we won. We all won today. We did.

1396
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 3: And now this is the final segment of the podcast.

1397
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 3: It's called I Said No Emails. People are writing into

1398
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 3: I Said No Gifts at gmail dot com desperate for answers.

1399
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 3: They're also sending in voice notes, Onaliz, will you please

1400
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 3: drag us through the voice notes qualifications so people know

1401
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 3: how to do this.

1402
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 4: If you'd like to send us a voice note, please

1403
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 4: make sure that you record it in a quiet space,

1404
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 4: have it be under sixty seconds, and you send it

1405
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 4: to I Said No Gifts at.

1406
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 3: Gmail dot com. Make it a question. Make it a question, yes, beautiful. Ok,

1407
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 3: we're gonna read one today despite all of this talk

1408
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 3: about voice notes. Cool. I'll help me answer you a question.

1409
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course.

1410
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 3: Okay, this is Hello Bridger. A question for you and

1411
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 3: your guest. I am a high school teacher and I'm

1412
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 3: having a hard time dealing with students using AI for

1413
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 3: their writing assignments. I can pick it out easily on

1414
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 3: my own, as any good English teacher can, or with

1415
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 3: AI detection tools if needed, but I'd like some advice

1416
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 3: for the next time I find let's say, text evidence

1417
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 3: in the form of a quote that isn't even in

1418
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 3: our class novel parentheses. That's called an AI hallucination. I

1419
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 3: know what an AI hallucination is. Sure, don't talk down

1420
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 3: to me. How should I let the student know that

1421
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 3: I have caught them played rising so that they understand

1422
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 3: that I know this partly because they're riding is garbage,

1423
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:08,439
Speaker 3: But without me saying that they're riding is garbage. Any

1424
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 3: advice would be helpful doing the Lord's work. And that's

1425
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 3: from mad Vintage. That's a I hope that's the teacher's name,

1426
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 3: mister or missus or ms or what have you mad

1427
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 3: vintage cool name, cool, very cool name. Yeah, you pull

1428
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 3: up on a motorcycle, kid, sir, not gonna be doing

1429
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 3: any AI anymore.

1430
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's our advice. Actually, I think buy a motorcycle.

1431
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 3: Become the ultimate badass. That's right, carry some sort of

1432
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 3: sword or knife on your hip. Feel like a threat to.

1433
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 2: The student and they will respect.

1434
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 3: Yes, are you in a leather vest? That could be

1435
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 3: the problem already. If you're not wearing a leather vest every.

1436
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 2: Day, just kind of buy a leather vest, then you're good.

1437
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 3: The students feel like they can run over you with

1438
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 3: their AI tools.

1439
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, but not if you're in a leather vest.

1440
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 3: No way. They want to be cool. They want to

1441
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:54,919
Speaker 3: feel like somebody else at the bar.

1442
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, teach with sunglasses on. There you go.

1443
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 3: I think that that's a perfectly fine idea. I mean

1444
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 3: there's also you know, I feel like this teacher is

1445
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 3: blaming the AI here instead of blaming themselves. Maybe they're

1446
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 3: a horrible teacher, and so the student doesn't know how

1447
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 3: to write, So now they're turning to a robot computer

1448
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 3: to spew out some slop and learning nothing. And the

1449
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 3: education system is in jeopardy because of mad vintage.

1450
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 2: Well, I would say, maybe they could be a good teacher,

1451
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 2: and it's just that just just to play that as

1452
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 2: advocating you could be a great teacher. And then still

1453
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 2: kids would be like, Oh, it takes effort to do

1454
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 2: good writing. I actually don't want to put in effort today.

1455
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 2: I want to go to the mall. What do you

1456
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 2: kids do?

1457
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 3: I want to skateboard at the mall.

1458
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 2: I skate at the mall. So I'm gonna let the

1459
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 2: robot do the effort. I'm just hoping they're return retaining

1460
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 2: information in class. Like right, I didn't love doing essays,

1461
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 2: but I loved learning in class. Right, I can measure that.

1462
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 3: They're very different things. They are. Yeah, some I enjoyed

1463
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 3: writing an essay, but essentially can't pay attention to anything.

1464
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 3: I've been diagnosed by listeners as having ADHD. Then jury

1465
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 3: still out.

1466
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 2: On that listeners.

1467
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 3: The listeners are reaching out.

1468
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 2: Don't reach out to me if you're trying to diagnose

1469
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 2: me with anything. Let me just put that out there

1470
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 2: right now.

1471
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 3: I will say, I've been watching Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.

1472
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 3: Apparently the viewers of the show reached out last season

1473
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 3: to one of the one of the cast mates and said,

1474
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 3: it looks like you've got an alloyed enlarged thyroid. Check

1475
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 3: it out. She had an enlarged thyroil.

1476
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 2: And that's okay, and let my doctor do that. Okay.

1477
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 2: I don't want to come and.

1478
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 3: Swing to reach out to a stranger and like something's

1479
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 3: enlarged on your body.

1480
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't tell me nothing. I know I have bad pasture.

1481
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 2: Let me alone.

1482
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 3: But chiropractors just won't leave you alone.

1483
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 2: Now, don't you dare get in there?

1484
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 3: How did we get here? Oh? Yeah, essays versus learning

1485
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 3: in class, I do think that the teacher should just

1486
01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 3: be as brutal as possible.

1487
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, if you notice it, you don't have

1488
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 2: to be gentle about it. You'd be like, guys, I

1489
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 2: know you're using AI for this.

1490
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 3: Right, you're bad writers?

1491
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could be good writers. Maybe that's a spin

1492
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 2: you could give it. It's like, I know you're better

1493
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 2: writers than what you're turning in because you're turning in AI.

1494
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 3: To me, right, this is a new dangerous minds. Do

1495
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 3: you remember that movie with Michelle Feiffer, Oh yes, maybe

1496
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 3: we do an AI version of that where a toughest

1497
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 3: nails teacher shows up to tell the students don't use

1498
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 3: AI yeah, you know, in a leather vest, probably to

1499
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 3: be like I've got street cred. I don't use a

1500
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 3: computer to write my essays. I use the word processor,

1501
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 3: but I don't use I don't go any further than that.

1502
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 3: I use the spell check, but I don't go any

1503
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 3: further than that.

1504
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 2: Or you could assign handwritten essays.

1505
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 3: They must be doing that now, right.

1506
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, which you could still have the effort, the effort

1507
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 2: to write it all out. It's sort of just like

1508
01:06:57,680 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 2: a dunk on the kid, you know. It's like, if

1509
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 2: you're to do that, go ahead and do that. It

1510
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:03,439
Speaker 2: kind of is a little bit easier to just put

1511
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 2: your thoughts down. If you make the essay shorter too,

1512
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 2: I feel like it incentivizes someone to actually use their brain, right,

1513
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 2: Like I can get through three pages handwritten.

1514
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 3: I can write a four sentence essay that too. Yeah,

1515
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 3: why not?

1516
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 2: Maybe we're just building confidence. You assign a one paragraph

1517
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 2: thing and build from there sure that they are writing it,

1518
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 2: because like one paragraph, I could do that and still

1519
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 2: go skate at them all. I could write a paragraph

1520
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 2: and then you just and then they prove to themselves

1521
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 2: that it's more fun and easy to write.

1522
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 3: It It's like training a dog. Yeah, got a clicker,

1523
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 3: spray them in the face. Hey, what was I going

1524
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 3: to say? I think that. I guess that's all of

1525
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 3: my thoughts on AI and I want a nightmare to

1526
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 3: be a teacher.

1527
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 2: Nowson was always a thing. We'd have to run our

1528
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 2: essays through this program that would like check if we

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Speaker 2: copied either another student's essay in the database or like

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Speaker 2: an academic paper.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I what.

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Speaker 2: Was it called?

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Speaker 3: Recognized this during college? I think this was happening.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it had a name.

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Speaker 3: But I guess that. I guess they have to have

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Speaker 3: something even more complicated now, Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I heard AI uses dashes a lot, and like humans

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Speaker 2: don't oh interesting like the dash when.

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Speaker 3: I write dash A good m dash. Yeah, but I

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Speaker 3: almost use those more, you know, like corny ways, like

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Speaker 3: I think it looks funny sometimes.

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Speaker 2: Okay, like texting. I've seen it used. Interesting, But if

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Speaker 2: I was writing a paper right from like.

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Speaker 3: A fourteen year old's like yeah, dash is no, you

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Speaker 3: didn't do that. You would have used a period or

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Speaker 3: a comma incorrectly. Yes, wow, mad Vintage, we've saved your

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Speaker 3: career you're welcome, and so many students' minds. Yeah, so

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Speaker 3: many students' minds. Okay, well, I've got my backgammon set kit,

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01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 3: set kit. Yeah, briefcase, my backgammon briefcase, and I can't

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01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:00,640
Speaker 3: wait to learn to play. I'm this is such a

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Speaker 3: nice thing. Yeah, what a gift. You know, occasionally there's

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01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 3: a gift on here. I'm like, wow, now that I

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Speaker 3: get to have that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I unfortunately prefer to be Ernest there.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you for being here. That's such a nice time.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me listener. The podcast

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01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 3: is over. We'll do some clicking, some last minute Ooh

1558
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 3: doesn't that sound nice? We'll send you off. I love you, goodbye.

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Speaker 3: I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. Our

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Speaker 3: senior producer is on Alisa Nelson, and our episodes are

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Speaker 3: beautifully mixed by Ben Tolliday. The theme song is by

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Speaker 3: miracle worker Amy Mann, and we couldn't do it without

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Speaker 3: our booker, Patrick Cottner. You must follow the show on Instagram,

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Speaker 3: and I said, No Gifts, that's where you're going to

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01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,680
Speaker 3: see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. And

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Speaker 3: don't you want to see the gifts.

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Speaker 1: Here. I thought, I made myself perfectly clear. But you're,

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Speaker 1: I guess to my home. You gotta come to me empty.

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Speaker 1: And I said, no, guess, you're a presences presents enough

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Speaker 1: I already had too much stuff, So how do you

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Speaker 1: dare to surbey me