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Speaker 1: It's time to catch a Cheater.

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Speaker 2: Only on the Jubil Show.

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Speaker 3: Paul is on the phone today for to Catch a Cheater.

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Speaker 3: He's been with his girlfriend Leslie for three years, but

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Speaker 3: now he thinks something's going on. So we're going to

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Speaker 3: see if we can help him out and try to

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Speaker 3: catch her in a second if she is. Hopefully she isn't.

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Speaker 3: But Paul tell us what's going on?

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been with my girlfriend Leslie now for three years,

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Speaker 4: and overall things have been great.

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Speaker 1: It's been nice three years.

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Speaker 4: Leslie actually moved up here from a small town, you know,

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Speaker 4: one of those really small towns out.

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Speaker 1: In the middle of nowhere.

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Speaker 2: Scary to me.

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Speaker 1: But yes, yeah, you know, to be honest, it's the

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Speaker 1: same for me.

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Speaker 4: It's a little odd going back because we visit often

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Speaker 4: to her family, and every time we go back there,

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Speaker 4: I just feel like it's going to another country.

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Speaker 1: Or another planet or something.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of nice. You really get to escape.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's not really a big deal to visit often.

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Speaker 4: I know, like I said, it's like another planet there.

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Speaker 4: But you know, my relationship with my family's a.

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Speaker 1: You know, at best strain. So you know, I've never

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Speaker 1: had a problem going back with her as frequently as

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Speaker 4: But unfortunately this year, I'm not able to go back

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Speaker 4: and visit with her on her mom's birthday. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm really swamped at work, and you know, it wasn't

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Speaker 4: really a huge deal. But that's kind of where in

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Speaker 4: regards to this trip and me not going with her.

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Speaker 1: Is kind of where suspicions started creeping in.

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Speaker 2: Okay, was she upset that you couldn't go with her?

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Speaker 1: Well, see that that's the thing.

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Speaker 4: It actually didn't seem like she was upset that I

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Speaker 4: wasn't going with her. And you know, recently, you know,

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Speaker 4: I feel like she's been kind of pushing me away.

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Speaker 1: You know, I feel like, you know, she's.

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Speaker 4: Been getting you know, a little bit more distant from me.

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Speaker 4: We've been getting into more arguments. And you know, one

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Speaker 4: thing I've noticed, and and the thing that I'm worried.

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Speaker 1: About is this guy Joel, who well Joel is her.

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Speaker 4: It's her ex from you know, like her kind of

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Speaker 4: high school sweetheart, kind of guy you know, still lives

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Speaker 4: in that small town where she came from. And I've

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Speaker 4: noticed that her and Joel have been texting a lot more,

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Speaker 3: They've always been texting, you said, a lot more so

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Speaker 3: they've always been a yeah.

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Speaker 5: They you know, you know, to be honest, I'm not

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Speaker 5: one of those guys that's like has a huge issue

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Speaker 5: with somebody having a friendship with an ex or you know,

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Speaker 5: having that relationship ongoing.

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Speaker 1: I met Joel, you know, when we've gone to to

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Speaker 1: you know, the visit. You know, I've met the guy.

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Speaker 1: You know, he seems like a.

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Speaker 4: Decent person and and everything. But honestly, it has always

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Speaker 1: Getting to be a lot more frequent.

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Speaker 4: Like I noticed that, you know, you know, I'll notice

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Speaker 4: her phone will light up, you know, a lot, and I'll.

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Speaker 1: See you know, his name, you know, pop up, you know,

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Speaker 4: And I noticed it's more and more, and you know,

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Speaker 4: I even asked her about it, and you know, she's

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Speaker 1: Phone and and that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Honestly, like to put two and two together, I

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Speaker 4: noticed that it's really been since I told her that

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Speaker 4: I wasn't going that I wasn't gonna be able to

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Speaker 4: make it to the trip. And I told her mom,

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Speaker 4: you know, the communication frequency you know, stepped up and

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Speaker 4: I asked her about it, and, like I said, she

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Speaker 4: you know, just we were playing on meeting up with

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Speaker 4: recall any friend group or mutual friend. I've never hung

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Speaker 4: out with her and her mutual friends in her small town.

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Speaker 4: So you know, honestly, I really don't know what's going on.

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Speaker 3: In So you think maybe it's like she's planning something

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Speaker 3: with him for when she's there, but you're not there exactly.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So I thought maybe you guys could call her

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Speaker 4: from you know, just say you're our credit card company

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Speaker 4: and say she won a free travel ticket and a

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Speaker 4: free companion and just ask her who she would pick

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Speaker 4: to be that companion.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, it's a good idea.

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Speaker 3: All right, we'll play a song come back, and then

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Speaker 3: call her and hopefully she gives us your name and

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Speaker 3: not somebody else's. But we'll play a song come back

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Speaker 3: and get your to Catch a Cheater.

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Speaker 2: Next.

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Speaker 3: Right in the middle of to Catch a Cheater, if

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Speaker 3: you're just joining us, Paul is on the phone and

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Speaker 3: he thinks that his girlfriend of three years named Leslie

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Speaker 3: might be cheating. So in a second, we're about to

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Speaker 3: call her and see if we can catch her. But first, Paul,

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Speaker 3: why don't you refresh everybody's memory on your situation.

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Speaker 1: We've been together three years.

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Speaker 4: I'm worried she's getting back with or in a relationship

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Speaker 4: with her ex boyfriend from high school. And I was

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Speaker 4: hoping you guys could just pretend to be the credit

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Speaker 4: card company and say she want a free flight and see.

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Speaker 1: Who she picked.

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Speaker 4: Okay, And she's going back home to visit her mom

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Speaker 4: and I'm not going, and I'm worried that she's been

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Speaker 4: really texting this guy and planning on seeing him when

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Speaker 4: I'm not there.

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Speaker 2: Okay, are you ready for us? To call her. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: all right, man, here we go.

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Speaker 1: Hello.

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Speaker 3: Hi, this is Grbal calling for I was looking for

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Speaker 3: our card holder, Leslie.

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Speaker 1: This is she is everything.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm actually calling you some good news.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations for being a card holder with us and racking

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Speaker 3: up so many points and miles in travel. You've won

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Speaker 3: a voucher for six hundred dollars in free travel for

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Speaker 3: yourself and a companion.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, wow, this is so cool.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: So what do I do?

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Speaker 2: Well, It's simple.

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Speaker 3: Your voucher will go automatically into your account online. So

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Speaker 3: the only thing that I would need would be the

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Speaker 3: name of the companion that you would take with you. Now,

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Speaker 3: I can give you some time to obviously think about that,

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Speaker 3: but unfortunately they ask that we give them that information

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Speaker 2: You know. Oh okay, that's fine, Okay, great, Just the

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Speaker 2: first and last name would be awesome.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, can you make it to Joel?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I can get that notated on there. Would you

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Speaker 3: like to send an email to this person so that

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Speaker 3: you can also give them the good news with like

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Speaker 3: a little bit of an E card type situation?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, maybe just say that things keep getting better and

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Speaker 7: after this trip we can go back and have the talk.

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Speaker 2: I'll just read it back to you. Okay.

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Speaker 3: It says your boyfriend of three years, Paul is on

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Speaker 3: the phone right now listening to this and probably wants

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Speaker 3: to know why you got the companion ticket for Joel

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Speaker 3: and are sending Jill that message?

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Speaker 2: Wait? What did I get that? Right?

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Speaker 1: Yes? PAULA, Paul?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's going on? Leslie? This is the Jewbill Show.

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Speaker 3: It's a radio show, and we do a segment where

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Speaker 3: we catch people cheating, and Paul thought you might be

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Speaker 3: able to do something right.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it seems I'm right. Oh my god.

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Speaker 6: Wow. Okay, well I was definitely not prepared to have

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Speaker 6: this conversation at this moment, but I guess this is

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Speaker 1: Hi, Paul, Hi, Yeah, you playing? What's going on?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's true. I've been talking to my ex Joel.

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Speaker 2: You know you know Joel.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well I know that part. I know you've been talking.

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Speaker 1: I've talked to you about how you've been talking. But

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Speaker 1: what's going on?

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Speaker 7: So we've been talking, you know, about our past and

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Speaker 7: just kind of went into how there's still some feelings

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Speaker 1: Are you serious? I honestly, I can't believe it.

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Speaker 4: You think you were ready to fly him with a

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Speaker 4: sit down with him and what shake his hand?

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Speaker 1: Wish you well?

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Speaker 4: I mean I can't, and you know, honestly, you know

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Speaker 4: But it's really the sneaking around that bothers me the most.

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Speaker 4: That I got to like do the whole setup to

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Speaker 4: we've been kind of, you know, at odds.

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Speaker 1: And the tension has been Why couldn't you just talk

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Speaker 1: like this? This is ridiculous?

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Speaker 4: And also, you know, thank you for doing this around

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Speaker 4: your mom's birthday for real, honestly, like this is.

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Speaker 1: A like, this is a devastating thing. And you know

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Speaker 1: I love your mom to death. Okay, you know she

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Speaker 4: Told me she likes me, you know, And and you

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Speaker 4: want to put this around your mom's birthday and and

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Speaker 4: and more so, instead of this being a very serious

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Speaker 4: like capitalizing on the fact that I couldn't make it

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Speaker 4: And I could tell, I could tell you didn't want

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Speaker 4: love you, but like.

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Speaker 1: You, I hear what you're saying that I probably deserve that.

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Speaker 8: I definitely mean Honestly, you deserve more than that, you know,

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Speaker 8: and you know you can text me, you could, you can,

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Speaker 8: you can reach out. You're obviously you would get yourself

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Speaker 8: when I don't want to see you, I don't want

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Speaker 8: to see him. It's not going to be the sit down,

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Speaker 8: nice hug, shake hand thing.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, I really hope you're happy because you're taking it

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Speaker 4: off from me.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well we'll.

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Speaker 7: Talk about it, and I again, I'm sorry that it

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Speaker 7: had to come off this way.

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Speaker 1: But nope, nothing to talk about. It is done.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, well Paul, I'm sorry, man, so sorry.

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Speaker 1: You know, well, you know what, y'all don't need to apologize.

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Speaker 1: You're the only one that needs to apologize. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Like I said earlier, you know, I was going to

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Speaker 4: be embarrassed either way, but thank you for saving me

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Speaker 4: a trip to go over there and embarrass myself.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, I'm pissed off.

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Speaker 4: This is ridiculous, but you know what, at least it's

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Speaker 4: better than me flying over there being around her family

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Speaker 4: to be the guy.

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Speaker 1: The other man.

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Speaker 2: Don't be embarrassed, man, this sucks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, whenever this happens, we always tell somebody. There

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Speaker 3: is someone out there for you, So don't give up,

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Speaker 3: Pope man.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly, I'm not even thinking about that, right, I'm

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Speaker 4: just I'm just pissed.

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Speaker 1: This is this hurts this honestly, it hurts. This hurts

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Speaker 1: The jewel

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Speaker 3: Shows it to catch a cheater.