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Speaker 1: You guys, this is Matt. I'm here to talk to

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Speaker 1: you for a quick second before we get into this

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Speaker 1: very good episode. Now you might be wondering where's Bowen,

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Speaker 1: but when is at the bottom of the world. He's

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Speaker 1: in Australia visiting his birthland. Another interesting fact about Bowen

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Speaker 1: Boring Anyway, we just get into the cultural news and

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Speaker 1: I'm by cultural news, I mean lost cultural news, lost

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Speaker 1: culture restes. That is. We have two shows coming up

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Speaker 1: in November and they are real gags. People. On November seven,

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Speaker 1: we are part of New York Comedy Festival. We're so excited.

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Speaker 1: Bo When and I are pumped to bring Coach War

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Speaker 1: and I don't think so Honey Deathmatch to the Villain

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Speaker 1: Stage in Brooklyn on November seven. This is gonna be

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Speaker 1: two teams, one team at another team Bowen Boo and

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be going head to head to find out

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Speaker 1: which team can deliver the best. I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: Honey's head to head death match tournament competition and Bowen

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Speaker 1: and I are going to be captain and two teams.

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Speaker 1: We have an amazing blue ribbon panel. We're going to

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Speaker 1: be really really very soon. It's gonna be very good

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Speaker 1: November seven. Coach War New York Comedy Festival. Tickets on

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Speaker 1: Stone now and then it's back to basics bitch on

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Speaker 1: November eighteenth. We're gonna bringing our our third edition. I

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Speaker 1: can't believe it's been three times. I don't think so,

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Speaker 1: Honey Live, fifty comedians, all killing it on the stage,

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Speaker 1: you and the audience, getting your laugh on, getting your gig,

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Speaker 1: getting someone's phone number. I think the show is a

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Speaker 1: really good place to meet someone because like they're having

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Speaker 1: a good time. You don't have to talk about shared interest.

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Speaker 1: You can talk about the show. It's happening right there.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it might be a good idea.

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Speaker 1: So come as a single person or come with a

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Speaker 1: new day. But either way it come to either show

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Speaker 1: or both. We have Coach War on November seven, then

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Speaker 1: to York Comedy Festival and I don't think so. Honey Live,

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Speaker 1: Brooklyn Podcast Festival, November eighteen. Rest in peace, you have

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Speaker 1: her seeing don last Cultures. If it isn't you again

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Speaker 1: my greatest rival. If it isn't my nemesis, no doubt

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Speaker 1: you've been hooking around town. Yes, I've been turning all

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Speaker 1: the tricks. What about you. Who are your john's these days?

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Speaker 1: Not so much hooking as booking. Okay, she's a booker. Yes,

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Speaker 1: all I do is book book books, no matter what.

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Speaker 1: So in this scenario, I'm I'm a sex worker and

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Speaker 1: you're an actor who's doing well. Wow, you guys, these

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Speaker 1: many audio plays are a new specialty. And you know

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Speaker 1: what with that? Welcome to last cultures like clearly culture

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Speaker 1: warriors here. I mean you just got some right served

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Speaker 1: on your a little tiny plate as an appetizer. We

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Speaker 1: say appetizer because the episode is just beginning, has just beginning, honey,

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Speaker 1: and oh the main course is crumptious today. I think scrumptious.

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Speaker 1: I think I think this is a scrumptious one and

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Speaker 1: also an eligible batch, an eligible back. Let's get into that.

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Speaker 1: What I'll find out if it's currently you know, at

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Speaker 1: a certain point you will expound. Okay, Um that right

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Speaker 1: there was a reference to our guest being on El

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Speaker 1: Magazine's forty Singles under forty Um. He had a great

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Speaker 1: little ride up, He had a great little profile, and

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Speaker 1: he was also in Rolling Stones twenty five. He was

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Speaker 1: also written up on Splitstarter, on for There on the

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Speaker 1: Verge Future and for being a Twitter tight maestro. Yeah, genius,

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Speaker 1: After every tweet I see, I go, oh wow, that's

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Speaker 1: How do you feel about bowen stopped? Like constantly a

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Speaker 1: decreeing like where your career stands? Honestly it every morning

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Speaker 1: fire was as the fire extinguent? There have been so

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Speaker 1: many fire tweets? Yes, of course, I mean, okay, here

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Speaker 1: we go, because you have there's a wide sample to

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Speaker 1: a full idiot, but I still think I deserve more

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Speaker 1: likes you do. It's and being a full idiot self

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Speaker 1: awarely is better than my sort of and we started

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Speaker 1: hate myself. I remember when I first moved to New York,

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Speaker 1: I saw one of your tweets that was like, I'm

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Speaker 1: actually fighting the patriarchy by making electronic music, right. That

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Speaker 1: was great. That stuck with me thinking about that tweet

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Speaker 1: everythingle something like that. Honestly, Um, Henry, my boyfriend at

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Speaker 1: I can and let me just and no way, You're

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Speaker 1: so nice. Thank You do have a lot of photo

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Speaker 1: like like on instant stuff or like Facebook. Sure, I mean, thanks, Thanks.

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Speaker 1: I felt that same way about Jabooky because Jabooky and

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Speaker 1: I Jaboki came at the highest recommendation of Sam Taggart

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Speaker 1: was like Jabouky, like, let's bring Jabooky and I was

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Speaker 1: Like I'm just like you know, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: real deal. And Jabookey does this thing very well where

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Speaker 1: He'll do the acrostics better than anybody. He'll do. And

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Speaker 1: They should have just kept doing I Love the Eighties

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Speaker 1: But they spent a long time on that movie. So

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Speaker 1: that's like a very kind of retrospective thing to feature.

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Speaker 1: it opened up my computer. No, it was on Instagram

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00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 1: and then she like dropped it on it like she's

424
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 1: like she like marketed it on right now, go overdraft

425
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 1: your account overdraft. I probably did at the time. And God,

426
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 1: don't regret it for a single second, Like God, yeah, no, Beyonce,

427
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,679
Speaker 1: but also Kanye just socially, it's like you will have

428
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 1: discussions about what he says, why he's saying it, who

429
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 1: he's fighting with right now. He Beyonce really low key

430
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: did put feminism into everyone's mouth. Yeah, like Hike and yeah, Hike,

431
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: he did that and brilliantly like would use other people's

432
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: words like chimaman, like let me just cut this stream

433
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 1: am onto Ted talk someone else. It'll just be someone

434
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,919
Speaker 1: else's words that I'm like elevating and of course you

435
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 1: do that, like that's brilliant and literally like not for another.

436
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 1: I know Chimamanda DJ has like her perspective on Beyonce,

437
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 1: but people know who the fuck Chiama because of Beyonce. Also,

438
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: I think some something that gets kind of like forgotten

439
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,479
Speaker 1: is I think sometimes the way you measure an artists

440
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: impact is you think about who comes after them. Beyonce

441
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 1: when she became what she became, I think around Crazy

442
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: in Love is when it really started happening. Like the

443
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,479
Speaker 1: way they packaged Rihanna in the beginning was Beyonce light.

444
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 1: What they tried to do with Ashanti was remember I'm married,

445
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 1: need more Mary, number of culture, I'm Mary. It's this

446
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 1: one thing that that was in this was it hitch

447
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: It was in the hitch Town track hit. What is

448
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 1: she saying with like during the beginning, no no no

449
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: no no no no no, not that part which she's

450
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 1: like keep what is she saying? What is she saying?

451
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 1: I think it's literally no no no no. Yeah. It

452
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 1: was a lot of that and even that is like

453
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: very Beyonce, you know what I mean? There were so

454
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 1: many fucking copycats. And that's how you measure something that's

455
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: like really hitting culture. For example, Desperate Housewives becomes the

456
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: iconic thing it was, and then the Real Housewives happening,

457
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: and they are all of a sudden, like these network

458
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: dramas with like all female casts, and you know, things

459
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: like that lost. How many copycats did that? Um cause?

460
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: And you know, you see with Beyonce, like not only

461
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: the impact she's had on like black women, but also

462
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: women in general, like in the music industry, just like

463
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 1: the way that they packaged pop stars was different and

464
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: continues to be different now because she's changed it again.

465
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,479
Speaker 1: Now you have people coming change in the way they

466
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: release music because it has to be at least a

467
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: little different than the Hi my albums coming out in

468
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: three months, I will be on the Today Show, like

469
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, of course, I don't

470
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: even say now, like Beyonce now like has like been

471
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: her success as a proven quantity has been able to

472
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 1: like has enabled people like I don't know if this

473
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: is a good example, like sayss like have you listened

474
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: to says this album? It's so good? I feel like

475
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: it's it's maybe like maybe that's not a fair line

476
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: to connect those two dots. But it's like, oh, but

477
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: it's like that that sort of allows these other people

478
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: to be successful in terms of people being on that level.

479
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 1: I think everyone on Beyonce's level said to themselves, Oh,

480
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 1: now it's different, Like now I have to do it

481
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: different and I have to Frank Ocean wouldn't be able

482
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: to be there. You go, like just dropping something digitally

483
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: or like teasing like a music video doing no press, yeah,

484
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: no press, just like here's something like it really created

485
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: that whole excitement around now. It's like if you saw

486
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: Frank Ocean or like Beyonce on like Saturday Night Live,

487
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 1: you'd be like, what do they do? Why are they doing?

488
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: Are they did SNL last year? I was like, isn't

489
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: he and and this isn't to say that like Beyonce

490
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: like invented this whole thing. It's like no, like they

491
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: were like the Eric about dudes, and oh my god,

492
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: I saw her life last weekend. She's incredible and her

493
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: voice is like you think, like you think I'm gonna

494
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: do a really bad Eric impression. You think Erica's voice

495
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: is like see your next nive that like you think

496
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: it's that it's like that soft dulcet thing, but it's

497
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: like she can belt her fucking I didn't realize she

498
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,959
Speaker 1: like hit this note like it was beautiful and I'm

499
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: just gonna try, and she was like, god, it was

500
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: just well you tried. I tried it. I immediately stepped

501
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: off number. It's true number five of culture. Number five. Yeah,

502
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: that's that's it's important in its general. Um No, But

503
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying like, like like you had those people, like

504
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 1: you had those artists. Here's the deal. Beyonce didn't invent anything.

505
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: She didn't. I mean I think she. I think she

506
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: she revolutionized and modernized a lot. But if you look

507
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 1: at old Tina Turner, you know what I mean, the

508
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: whole like formational dancing, like three chicks on stage, like

509
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: ripping it in terms of dancing and vocals like that's uh,

510
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: repackaged and repurposed by Beyonce and it's given to us,

511
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,959
Speaker 1: and thank god it is. But it wasn't a creation

512
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: of Beyonce. And I don't know if it was a

513
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: creation of Tina Turners. But these things are nothing is near.

514
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: I think invented having twins though, and it wasn't even

515
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: her twins. It was the late twins French dancers that

516
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: she had on her Mrs Carter Show World tour. It

517
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: was those two like it was just such a deep cut. Sorry,

518
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: remember remember that, we're just like twins, French twins that

519
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: like oh yeah, yeah, yeah, the boys or whatever, and

520
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: they were like spinning in Twirland and they've been on

521
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: all her tours. They were at the formation. She didn't

522
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: she didn't meant having twins. You're right, I think so.

523
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: And I think she invented um cutting, just doing a

524
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: pixie cut, doing a little little remember remember that little cut. Yeah,

525
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 1: so you don't think Rosemary's baby Mia Farah, you don't

526
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: think that the haircut, even though it happened forty years before.

527
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: She didn't take a mirror selfie. Me if he didn't

528
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: take a mirror selfie and destroy the Internet for a day.

529
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: Remember when that was like the big Beyonce and he

530
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: was like, she cut her hair and now it's like

531
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: she might have had an invitro pregnancy or whatever. Wait,

532
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: here's the thing. People still fucking coming up to me

533
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: saying Beyonce didn't have her kids. That's wild. Okay, why

534
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: does it even matter? It doesn't matter, doesn't I think

535
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: it matters to build because she pretended that she had

536
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: that she was having them if it's true, which I

537
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: don't think it's true. For the wins, I feel like

538
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: maybe she wanted specifically twins and like had it done

539
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: in and then had had some sort of insertion and whatever.

540
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: That's not the right terms. Um said that she hasn't

541
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: had any of her kids, none of them she actually gave.

542
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: Some people say, I don't. I think the twins people

543
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: think she really had them. But when she was pregnant

544
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: with Blue, there was like an interview she did where

545
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: she sat down and appeared that her belly indented, and

546
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: then people were all really going crazy. It's pretty munny.

547
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: It's funny, funny. It looks like what people say. It

548
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: looks like it looks like her belly pops in. One

549
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: of my favorite videos like that is the one of

550
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: Justin Bieber blinking his reptilian eyelids. Have you seen that one? People,

551
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: because like the grain is like so poor on the

552
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: camera that it looks like he's like blinking a second eyelid,

553
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: like underneath his eye. I love those conspiracy here's a question,

554
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: if there is an Illumini, who sits at the table?

555
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: Who's the table? Um? Honestly, I don't think that it's

556
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: really any celebrities. I think it's bankers. Yeah, like realistic.

557
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: It's definitely not Beyonce or it's like VC people. It's

558
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: like people who are like rich enough to like by

559
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: by immortality. It's those people like Rockefellers, Like Rockefellers. That's

560
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: this new thing with like rich people, with these with

561
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: these rich men, is that they want to what is

562
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: that thing when he died he had like six heart

563
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: transplanters about Rockefeller. Yeah, one of the one of the

564
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: ones who died recently had had like an absurd amount

565
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: of organ transplants. That's I mean, that's the thing. It's like,

566
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: it's like once you're that rich, like you have everything

567
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: and like you feel like godly at that point and

568
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: you're all The thing you care about most at that

569
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: point isn't like necessarily your business or whatever any of

570
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: that stuff. It's just how do I keep how do

571
00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: I stay here for as long as possible so I

572
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: can experience this for as long as I want, which

573
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: is like that's scary. I don't know, And you know,

574
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: what's the scariest part is the fact that that is

575
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: in all of us. That's why we wake up and

576
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: like work. You know what I mean, It's like, man,

577
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: that's the sound I make when something's cookie. Okay, let's

578
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: go what is it. It's a little bit of a

579
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: cookie singer. No, okay, I think not at all. I

580
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: think I think there's some untapped. That's because you haven't

581
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: had lessons. I haven't you have such a nice chamber?

582
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: Do people say that to you? Because you really do?

583
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: You sound real smooth on the mic. Really right now

584
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: here we go. Good? So you love music? Yeah, I

585
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: love music. I'm definitely a music Are you a childish

586
00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: Campino fan? Okay? Oh shit, yes, But it didn't happen

587
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: until later. And it's only casual because I was compared

588
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: to Donald Glover so growing up that I was like,

589
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: I'm not like him. Yeah, Like I was kind of like, no,

590
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: I don't why would people like I mean, I mean,

591
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,239
Speaker 1: like other than the basic because that's it. That's all

592
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: it is. It's like, well, you're that's why it's annoying.

593
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: You're queer. Um, you have a different whatever. It's Donald

594
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: Glover queer. I'm saying Jabooki is queer and Donald isn't.

595
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: But it was just like, oh, you're like black, but

596
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: you're not like a Martin Lawrence type. And yeah, it

597
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: was literally that just insulting to like other whatever anyway,

598
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: Um that's I mean, I will say I'm the reverse

599
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: of my childish Gambido fandom because I liked him back

600
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: in college when he was like our little secret I

601
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: mean too. Well. The thing is like we I was

602
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: in the sketch group that he and his uh like

603
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: contemporaries like started, and so he was in the same

604
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: program as me too at n y U, and we

605
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: knew him from looking up to him because he is

606
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: this like you know, up and coming, like the legend was.

607
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: And this is true that while he was still in

608
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: school he got hired as a writer on thirty Rock,

609
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: and no one could believe that he was just like

610
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: you ce be like kind of on genue, like he

611
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: like really took off in a way that was like

612
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: he was young and it was cool and there was

613
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: a legend um and a writer and an actor and

614
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: it was a legend. Like for the for the two

615
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: thousand seven season MSN Now or for the two sees

616
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: in ms and all when like t A went on

617
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: for Serapalent, like he was like contender front runner for

618
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: the for like an Obama. He was, he had auditioned

619
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: and it didn't. But even back in the day, it's like, oh,

620
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: Donald Glover is this guy who's going to blow up

621
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: and then he did. Well it just the thing is

622
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: he did blow up in in respective to like us,

623
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like watching him as like

624
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: people that were younger. But it's crazy and I mean

625
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: crazy to see where it's gotten now, like he want

626
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: to Fucking Emmy is like history. Making Emmy is like

627
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: seeing him with the Golden Globes, seeing him at the

628
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: same awards. Know was like fucking Rachel Bloom, who also

629
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 1: we know, and it's just like to see them both.

630
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: We know a lot of people. I'm not saying it

631
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 1: like that. I'm just saying it's fucking crazy because those

632
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: people that, like you, were told we're special and thought

633
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: were special, like really were on this huge scale and

634
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: that's like surreal. And so that's why I ask you

635
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: about him, because he's like such a thing. Right, we're

636
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: gonna say I was gonna say, I want to make

637
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 1: the discussion distinction. I love Donald Glover, but childish Gambino

638
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: I was a totally here that I will say something

639
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: kind of obnoxious. Now I feel like that sentiment that

640
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: you just expressed him out of, Like these people who

641
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: were told are special really did end up being that way.

642
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: I feel like I kind of I feel that way

643
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: now with like this like this this community that sounds

644
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: so colin, but like I like, I feel like the

645
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: Jabookies of the world, the you know, the little the

646
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: little Joe Firestones of the world she was she was

647
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: on last week, Like you know, like that's I just

648
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 1: genuinely feel like it's it's such a It's so cool

649
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: because you look up there and you're like, if I

650
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: could happen to them, like it truly can happen to

651
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: to us and to anybody, and not because I feel

652
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: like they're the same as us, They're not more talented

653
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: than us. But I just feel like, you see it

654
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 1: realized in a way, and it's so crazy to see

655
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 1: not only Rachel and Donald We'll go up there and

656
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 1: win Emmy's It's not just that they created their own

657
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 1: ship and are in it in every way. They're starring

658
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: in it, they're writing it there, directing it, show running it,

659
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: and that is there are these utters. It's it's crazy,

660
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: and you know, hearing that he was a musician was

661
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: like extra, Like I was just reading an article today

662
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: that was like talking about but I guess because the

663
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: Emmys are over now, they're thinking about what the next

664
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: award show is and it's like they're gonna be the

665
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,919
Speaker 1: Grammys and it's like Childish Camby. You know, well, they're

666
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: like in February. I guess the Oscars aren't until March, so, um,

667
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. For some reason, I guess because the

668
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 1: submission deadline is happening for the year that you can

669
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: be eligible Photogrammars because it ends on September thirty. That's

670
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: how the Grammy year works. Um. They were talking about

671
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: like what is going to be within that period, what

672
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: we should look for, and it was like Childish Gamby

673
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: and a childish can being on. Like if this guy

674
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: goes up there and wins six Grammys, now, like that's crazy.

675
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: He's so absurdly talented, it's bizarre to wrap your mind around.

676
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: And I just started watching I just caught up on

677
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: at Lantown and I'm like, God, it's I'm gonna say

678
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: it's frustratingly good. It's like, damn it, Like I wish

679
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: it's because it's good enough at this inaccessible enough, that's

680
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 1: at the at the level where you're like, oh, like

681
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: why didn't I come up with that? Yeah, it's like

682
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: this whole hisle episode, like in this on this you know,

683
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: public Access talks so good, like like that's so simple

684
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: and straightforward enough, and he has commercial parodies. It's like

685
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: that was a whole episode, this whole episode, and it's

686
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 1: like I it's like I could have thought of that,

687
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: and like and this is a very solopsistic thing, but

688
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, you know what I'm saying. It's

689
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: like it's that kind of goodness that it's like but wait,

690
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 1: like that's so simple and like you know, it's it's

691
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: it's wild. It's a perfect medium, like truly a vision

692
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: but also something that everyone can enjoy, right, because I

693
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: have to get into that because I was intimidated by

694
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: Atlanta because it's like it's gonna be Donald's thing. It's

695
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: gonna be so so intellectually hefty and like great, and

696
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: I don't know, I need to be in the right

697
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 1: mood for that, but no, it's like the pilots almost perfect,

698
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: basically perfect. Well you forget that he's also just the

699
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: writer again, you know what I mean, Like, yeah, some

700
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: of those old Derrek comedy sketches, do you know Derrek Comedy,

701
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: like the old sketch group that he was in, So

702
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: just go back, Like some of those sketches are a

703
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: little problematic now, Like their first big literally their first

704
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: huge sketch was called bro rape like like but it

705
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: was a huge sketch and it was just like but

706
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like that's they're like

707
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: not saying that humor now and I'm certain they're not

708
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: proud of like that. And like Blowjob Girl featuring a

709
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: then on um And also this other sketch which is

710
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: called spelling be but but spelling and it's not it's wait, no,

711
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: I remember that, yes, yes, yes, yes, okay, so funny

712
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 1: and like and like it's fine. It's it's problematic, but

713
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: it's fine because it's because it's at the time. It's

714
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: all the time. I don't know if they're proud of

715
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: that ship now, but I watch I'd watch any one

716
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: and he says the word fagat and I'm like, no,

717
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: this is hilarious. Yeah, it's great. But but what I'm

718
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: saying is like, deep within him there is that person

719
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: that's just like a stupid comic, which is and I

720
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: love it. Yeah, um you know yeah right right, and

721
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: that he has to come back down to that at

722
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: some point. I mean we all have. We almost returned

723
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 1: to our baby. Yeah, there you go, Ruboki. Okay, I

724
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: don't have to talk about what the pilot actually is,

725
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: but you just finished, like you're like, is that like

726
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: your like what's your like blue guy? Like and just

727
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 1: answer this, Yeah, what do you wanna be doing this?

728
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: Like as openly as you want? And like who cares

729
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 1: about ego or anything? I don't know what for sure? Okay,

730
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: go for it. Well, um, I want to be president

731
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 1: of the United States. There you go. Well it's possible. Chicago,

732
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: Chicago guy, Chicago guy Chicago and has one has done

733
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: it before before? Exactly? Though? I umcoln. It's actually funny

734
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: that we were talking about Donald Glover because he was

735
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: really like the person who I saw growing up and

736
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: was like, oh wait, you can like do comedy and

737
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: you don't have to be like the star of it.

738
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 1: Do you know what? I mean, like because when I

739
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: found out about thirty Rock, and I was obsessed with

740
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: dirty rock, and then I found out about like the

741
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: writers from like reading Bossy Pants, and then I started

742
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: learning more about Donald was like, oh, he was just

743
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: like a writer on that, but he was also doing

744
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: like acting. But like before, I had always wanted to

745
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: be a comedian, but like all the comedians were like, oh,

746
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle or like Kevin Hard or like like people

747
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: who were at this unreachable level that made a scene

748
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: so unreal, like not a thing that you could do.

749
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 1: And Donald was really the first person that showed me like,

750
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: oh no, this is a thing. There's like very viable,

751
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: Like there's jobs in this that aren't necessarily like huge,

752
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: but like you could for sure make a living. So yeah,

753
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: for right now, I love writing, like loving in the

754
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: writer's room. Um, that's like a super fun experience, just

755
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: like you've got a good room right now. Yeah, it's amazing,

756
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: Like yeah, it's so great, and everyone's like playing off

757
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: of each other really well, and just the feeling of

758
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: having like a brain trust with so many different voices

759
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: that are like on the same page but like all

760
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: contributing like their own unique inputs really sort of kind

761
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: of puts their voices in your head where it's like

762
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: now on other bits that I'll be writing, and I'm like, oh,

763
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: but like how would this person approach Like maybe I

764
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: could try to like incorporate sort of a different angle

765
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: from this. So yeah, right now I'm kind of just

766
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: trying to experience everything really because I would like, I

767
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: have a pilot written, UM would love to like produce

768
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: that right for it, ideally starring it, but like I

769
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: want that to be the most informed, like highest version

770
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: of what I'm able to produce, and that requires me

771
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: knowing like the technical aspects of it, like other things

772
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: that I can't just like go in with like some

773
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: bustle and album, and it also requires fucking time and

774
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: like years. I mean, like we were talking before we

775
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: went on and about Issa Ray and Insecure. So you

776
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,720
Speaker 1: watch the show obviously you did? You watch the Okay?

777
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: I wish that you were caught up because I mean

778
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: you you guys, and I think I know some of

779
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: the big things that happen. I just finished the second

780
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: season and I thought, like I did love the first season.

781
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: I thought the second season was like something else. I

782
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: thought it was like, just like, if not a perfected

783
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: version of the show, because who's to say where it

784
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: will go in season three could be even better, like

785
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: a fucking home run. Um that season finale, there's a

786
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: scene between Lawrence and Issa which is just like so written,

787
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: so beautiful, so beautifully. Yeah, that was one of the

788
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: most realistic breakup scenes I had seen on TV and

789
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: a long time. It was, and it was it was

790
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: like it it doesn't allow you to think, well, we'll

791
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: see what happens with them, because that's not how things go,

792
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It almost makes you it

793
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: almost makes you say, well, how is he going to

794
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: be a character on the show anymore? Because this show,

795
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: this is a show about her and like she's closed

796
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: a book on this Like it's so so hard to

797
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: accomplish that in a scene. But you know, directorially, in

798
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: terms of the rioting, in terms of the acting, it

799
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: was like this beautiful goodbye and it was really well done.

800
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: I think it was one of the best scenes I've

801
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: seen on television. And I think that like along the

802
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: way over the first two seasons, there's been there's been

803
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: some scenes like in last ex episodes I talked about

804
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: and I want to know what you thought about this.

805
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: The scene where Molly finds out that her boyfriend Langston

806
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 1: Kerman had Jared had been with a dude in college,

807
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: and everyone was like, funk that he's gay. He's gay,

808
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: he's gay. What did you What was your read on that? Um?

809
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: For me, it was like that reads pretty true. Really Yeah.

810
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people who are like open mind,

811
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: heavy air quotes that will be like so down for that,

812
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: but they're like but not my men, Like wow, everyone

813
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 1: can be like sexually open experimental with my man has

814
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: to be hectoro sexual. So like I was like, unfortunately,

815
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: that's just real. Yeah, And I felt like I was

816
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,240
Speaker 1: wondering if they were making a comment on like Molly

817
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: the character, or this was just a thing that like

818
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: women felt like this a lot. Yeah, yeah, that can

819
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: be pretty I actually know a couple that ended like that.

820
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 1: It was like oh no, no, no no, no, like he's

821
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: like I think you're gay, Like, yeah, it's rough. It's

822
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: a real life thing. If your boyfriend ever like to puss,

823
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: what would you do? Well? He used to tell me,

824
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: I will embarrass it by saying he did. Used to

825
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 1: tell me that he wasn't like a Kinsey six gay

826
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: like he like then he was like sometimes to try

827
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: to do women, Like sometimes you would come home and

828
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: be like, I was it drifting to a woman? And

829
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:33,959
Speaker 1: I was like what I was like? And that makes

830
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: me that that causes me to ask so many questions

831
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: because I'm like, because I would absolutely and I love women.

832
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: I can't even dream of having sex with a woman. Dream.

833
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: But you're not a gold star gay. You've had sex

834
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: with wom No, I really have not. I am a

835
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: gold Yeah, I bet you're not goltar Is. You haven't

836
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: goltar Is. You haven't had sex with a woman. Oh no,

837
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: I'm guilty. Wow, you platinum if you are a cesarian section,

838
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: which means you've never gone through Oh my god, I

839
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: am platinum. To describe what platinum is, Platinum is like

840
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: you like have never touched a vagina platinum c section? No, Like,

841
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: but what are you talking about? Section? Like surgically like

842
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: just cesarian sections out like they did not pass through

843
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: the the vagina you know what? Right? Yes, sure so

844
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 1: they have, Like you're a gay who has not even

845
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: like whatever it is, I'm platinum. I've only not a

846
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: titty over a shirt? Did you know, you know you're

847
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 1: not platinum, Matt, did Katrina? Were you born through? So? No?

848
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: I was born through the vaginal canal the star. But

849
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: that's unfair. We have to celebrate. She couldn't tell rate

850
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: platinum wild? But I bet girls do you try to

851
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: hit on you all the time when they don't know? Still? Yeah?

852
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: And do you let them know? No, No, that's a

853
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 1: stupid question. No, it's not a stupid question. Let's just

854
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 1: let it right out. You know. Sometimes I am not

855
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: off forward enough and then it's like this has gone

856
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 1: on too long. Yeah, and then you gotta you know, yeah,

857
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: you gotta have some Sometimes I'll be able to take

858
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: my platinum. I'll be at work and I'll be like

859
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: doing my thing with the tables, and I'm like, not

860
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: not gay, you know what I mean? Like I'm like

861
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: definitely gay. Well, I guess because I will get so

862
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: many phone numbers from women, that's right. And I'll be like,

863
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: this is crazy to me because I definitely just left

864
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: her table being like sure thing, like saying sure thing,

865
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: like I know, smooth shut so gay, so gay. I

866
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: feel like I know a couple of straight guys that

867
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: will definitely gay it up in service positions or just

868
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: like because it works their benefit. It's like non threatening.

869
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 1: You know, it's straight guys, damn it. So the straight guys.

870
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 1: Maybe if a girl's on a date with a guy,

871
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: the guy can't think like this fucking server is trying

872
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: to hit on my girlfriend. They can think, oh, this

873
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: guy is gay, or he's cool and getting a tip. Yeah,

874
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: and sometimes it's just like low as women's defenses too.

875
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 1: Sure it makes them feel No, that's fair, that's fair.

876
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. Straight guys gang And that's

877
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like at the end of the day though,

878
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 1: that that's the thing. Be yourself, just be yourself. That's

879
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: I don't like it. It's appropriation. Yeah, there you go,

880
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: don't up, don't call up. Sure thing. I might as

881
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: well be on a scooter at work, I said, I

882
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 1: say literal sure thing. You bet you classici I am. Yeah,

883
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 1: I guess that's you know what. On the other side

884
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: of that, I will get it up. When I am

885
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: a customer and it's like this, it's usually it's like

886
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: a female, you know, person behind the count, like just

887
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 1: a female behind the counter, and just to like break

888
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: that tension, I'll just be like thank you. I'll just

889
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 1: like thanks so much, you know what, just to like

890
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: add some levity to that. I don't know, how do

891
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: you think you're to get be treated better? Because I

892
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,240
Speaker 1: think I don't know, you know what, there's no function.

893
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: That's just who I am. Straight guys who gave it

894
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:13,240
Speaker 1: up in service jobs. That's that's not necessarily even service.

895
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: But like I can see where it's like, oh no,

896
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,479
Speaker 1: like I see, I see what's going on. Yeah, I see,

897
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: I see what's what's happening? You know? Well, well, have

898
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: you ever been in a service position? Um? Yes, what

899
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: did you do? I was working at a pizza place

900
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: for a couple of months, only a couple of months. Yeah,

901
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 1: only a couple of months. Literally, in the middle of

902
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: my shift, I was like preparing a pepperoni pizza and

903
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: I just like put it down. I was like, honestly,

904
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: this like is not for me. And the manager was like, oh,

905
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: do you want to do cashier or like, do you

906
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 1: want to sweep or something. I'm like, no, it isn't,

907
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: Like this job is just not for me. So, um,

908
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go, oh my god, how old were you?

909
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 1: I was? Yeah, that was my first real job. That's

910
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: that's crazy. I would never have the balls. And how

911
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: many times I wanted to do that? Thousands? I've been

912
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: for eleven years. Yeah, and then I also worked at

913
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: Clark's Shoes ever god like, it was so vicious, it

914
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: was ugly. Oh my god, oh my god, my god.

915
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: I quit that one pretty bold too. So I went

916
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: in on Mother's Day late as hell, like passive aggressively late.

917
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: I was like forty five minutes late. And I had

918
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 1: like asked for Mother's Day off and she was like no,

919
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: like I'm not gonna give it to you. So I

920
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 1: come in late and then she was like, jabookie, you're

921
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: late and I was like yeah, I know, it's like

922
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: forty five minutes. She was like, well, I'm gonna write

923
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 1: you up and I was like, I mean you should

924
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: do that. That is like the proper recourse for lateness.

925
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: And she was like, I want you to clean the

926
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: bathroom and I was like sure, the bathroom at Clark's. Yeah,

927
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: in the back and back, and I was like okay, cool,

928
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,479
Speaker 1: like that's a thing that we do with this job.

929
00:50:58,640 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: And then she was like I want you to clean

930
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: so good your mother would eat off of its, right.

931
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: So then I wrote this long ass letter that was like, um,

932
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: I almost said her name. I was like, my boss

933
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: said these things to me, and I understand that, like

934
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: this is a colloquial term, but this was sucked up

935
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 1: for these reasons. And then like I literally dissected the

936
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: sentence and then like explained why everything was sucked up

937
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: and then called a racist and then I was like,

938
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: I'm I'm leaving, and I walked into work and then

939
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: I put the letter down on the counter and I

940
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: just turned around and walked right back out. Didn't say anything.

941
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 1: I hope that she didn't read it and like throw

942
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: it out. I hope someone is one of her superiors.

943
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: She wasn't there that day, and I think like everyone

944
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 1: Loki kind of didn't like her, so I know that

945
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: they were eating that ship up in the bag. I

946
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: just dropped that it's good for you for calling that

947
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 1: out that like that that that racial element because it

948
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: is just like so fucking gross and loaded and yeah,

949
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: but like but like that's I mean, that's great. Like

950
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 1: I feel like there is there there are so many

951
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: lessons in both of those and jokes where it's like

952
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, like if you fucking hate a job,

953
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: just leave it. Have you ever been in a service position. Yeah,

954
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: first job was serving ice cream at Maggie Mouse, which

955
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: is like a more cartoony version of Cold Stone. Did

956
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 1: you sing? Did not sing for taps? And people would

957
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: constantly ask you to sing for taps, like they would

958
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: drop like a quarter in the in the in the

959
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: bucket and I'd be like, and they'd be like, don't

960
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: you sing? And I'd be like, no, sir, even though

961
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 1: I could have could have belted the house down, and

962
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: then you exactly um and uh yeah no. And it

963
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: was awful. It was awful, and it was run by

964
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: these like two Mormon lunatics and it freaks that freaks Matts.

965
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: Matt's looking at me. It's horrible, like um, like a

966
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: like Terry Gross would if I were to Did you

967
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: ever feel like you're going to get carpetal tunnel from scooping? Yeah?

968
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: I know I would would get like wrist ship. Yeah,

969
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 1: I've heard of breaking their wrists scooping ice cream. That's real.

970
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: It isn't real. It was. It was bad and like

971
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: hated hated the smell of any kind of dairy for

972
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: like a solid two years, which is like I can't

973
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: be around you didn't eat the ice cream you were there,

974
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: you would eat it all the time, but then you

975
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: would like fucking hate yourself because it was just like

976
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 1: and that's that rich ice cream and it's just the

977
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: smell klung on you See. I would say that I

978
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to ruin ice cream for myself, so I

979
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 1: wouldn't work on ice cream place. But I would have

980
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: worked at a seafood different safe restaurants for years and

981
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: still would rather eat seafoold every day. That's interesting. Yeah,

982
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: I can't get enough of the stuff. And that's another thing.

983
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 1: I love this stuff. There you go, that's I mean,

984
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: I mean, but no, I'm I'm like, I love this

985
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: the way that Chabuki has quit his jobs. How do

986
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: you make the checks? Now? Um? Writing? Honestly writing? Um

987
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: stand up here and there and my living situation is

988
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 1: just very interesting. So in uh basically like a socialist

989
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 1: co op. Great wait where Yeah, it's in bedside it's

990
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 1: off the Franklin a c. Yeah, and uh yeah it's

991
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: really cool people. It's like a full um like four

992
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: story brownstone, so there's like a decent amount of space

993
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: and it's like protected by New York government and everything,

994
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 1: so like the landlord really can't funk with us. Do

995
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 1: you ever feel like you have alone time? Um? Yeah, yeah,

996
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: because I have my own room, so it's like I

997
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 1: could always retreat to that. But in a way not

998
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:36,240
Speaker 1: not in a way that like a lot of people

999
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 1: I know who have like two three roommates where it's like, oh,

1000
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: everyone's gone, like someone is always gone, So it's never

1001
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: like you have the house to yourself, you know, which

1002
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 1: is fine. What are your in? What ways do you contribute?

1003
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 1: Like like like how does this work? Like do you so? Um?

1004
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: Basically a part of the rent is utilities and groceries,

1005
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: So we like all go in on groceries and we

1006
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: have like bolt like Quinwa pasta rice like all that stuff,

1007
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 1: And honestly is a great model to actually more people

1008
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: should replicate it because you've saved so much money and

1009
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 1: you have you have food. Yeah I don't know. Yeah,

1010
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: so that's really cool. And yeah, you like split up

1011
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 1: duties like uh, like Sunday is like my day to

1012
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: like clean the kitchen or not because it's like high

1013
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: traffic as fun, So like there are some trade offs

1014
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: where it's like that's kind of a job, but it

1015
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 1: ends up being worth it now and then like yeah,

1016
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: it just you you just saves. It just pays. It

1017
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: doesn't pay for itself, but you know what I mean,

1018
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: it's so worthwhile. Um, it's great. Honestly, I would not

1019
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 1: have been able to stay in New York probably if

1020
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: I did not find a situation like that. How long

1021
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 1: have you been in New York? Now? I've been here

1022
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: a year and some moved here last July. Is one

1023
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: of those people who hits the ground fucking running hounds

1024
00:55:51,960 --> 00:56:02,879
Speaker 1: that pave remember his name. I was Chicago before that, right,

1025
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: and then all your life before that? Great? Oh my god.

1026
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: See like one Barack Obama who became president. I grew

1027
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: up in Harvey. It's like a suburb on like the

1028
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: far south side of Chicago. But it's weird because Chicago

1029
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: culture of like the South Side just kind of extends

1030
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 1: sort of into the suburbs just because of like gentrification.

1031
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: Same goes for the same goes for the same goes

1032
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 1: for like stuff like about like Steve saingoes for North

1033
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 1: Side too and whatever. Yeah. Yeah, it's like, you know Chicago,

1034
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: not really, I pretend like I do, certainly, don't you

1035
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 1: certainly always tell people like if it made sense for

1036
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 1: me to move there, I would move there like that.

1037
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 1: I think people say that, but then no, there's just

1038
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: so oh my god, like horrible. There was one year,

1039
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: my freshman year of college portex Yes, it was the

1040
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: week after literally negative fifty degrees. We went, we we went,

1041
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 1: we went, we went to week after and it was

1042
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 1: like it was like seven degrees and we were like,

1043
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: oh my god, we're going to die. Like we ran

1044
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: out of groceries. We had to go to Jewel like

1045
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: two blocks away, and like it was so windy that

1046
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: my eyes were watering, but it was so cold that

1047
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: my eyelashes froze and I had to rub my eyes

1048
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: to get my eye open. Literally, So you can't go

1049
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: outside at that, you can't, Like you there are like

1050
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 1: three months out of the year that it's like fun

1051
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: to go outside of Chicago truly so beautiful, but it

1052
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: is negative five zero now okay with window but of course,

1053
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: but that is that's not for humans. That is plutonic.

1054
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: Can you imagine like literally if we were not like

1055
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: a civilized like like species like and that just decided

1056
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: to happen, like probably I one will be dead yeah,

1057
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: I guess I protect yourself. No, yeah, you need slabs

1058
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: of concrete to separate you from there. Yeah, that's literally crazy.

1059
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: I'll never forget when we went through the week after

1060
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: the Poet Vortex and I would like skip into like

1061
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 1: a muffin store and like talk to the girl and

1062
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: be like I like it here? Do you like it here?

1063
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: And she'll be like, no, you have. You are so

1064
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: fucking annoying. You don't know what it's like. You weren't

1065
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: here last week. And I was like, well, this muffin

1066
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: is cheaper than it will be in New York, I'll

1067
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: tell you that. And you're friendly. Isn't the people there?

1068
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: She's like, I want to kill myself. I was like, bye,

1069
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 1: I need fine fair. I just I romanticize the times

1070
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: that I am there because I've I've had fun, fun,

1071
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 1: fun like I've only I've never had like a truly

1072
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 1: romanticize in Chicago Hamilton's I Yeah, no, I didn't get

1073
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: that at all, like benders of nights in Chicago and

1074
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 1: not really here. Oh you can be such an alcoholic

1075
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 1: and fun. It's a lot of fun. They sell alcohol

1076
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 1: everywhere everywhere, everywhere. You're just like I had to think

1077
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: about it, though, I had to honestly think about it. No,

1078
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: Taco Bell, Yes, what do they sell Margarita's the way

1079
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: they do with Chipotle? Sure? You ever get him Chipotle

1080
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: mar It's pretty good. It's okay Chipole. Chippole does case though. Now,

1081
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: isn't that wild? What probably does? It's crazy? I had

1082
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: something and it wasn't It was fine. Um, Chooba, they're

1083
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 1: coming for us, come outa coming. I don't think I've

1084
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: ever know. I have been to Kotoba there, Kudoba's out here.

1085
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 1: There used to be one on in my I think

1086
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: there is one. What did they turn that down there? Yeah?

1087
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 1: They threw it down? They said, did they turn it Downdoba.

1088
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 1: It's not going to work at this time, you're turned down.

1089
00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say best gate club in the world. No,

1090
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 1: not as Scarlet. That's where we went and it was

1091
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 1: the best night. We were there in Chicago and it

1092
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: was cold, It's very cold, and Naomi Smalls came in

1093
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 1: after us, the drag queen. Yes, and it was Scarlett

1094
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 1: and it was lit. Any any opinions on gay bars

1095
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 1: on gay night like Chicago has the best gay night life,

1096
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 1: I'm going to say, Um, honestly, I was never really

1097
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: into it when I was out there, like it's really

1098
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 1: before It's like it's so aggressive, and it just was not. Okay,

1099
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 1: that's the Chicago guys are no joke, you know. I

1100
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 1: hooked up with the Lithuanian guy who was fifty years old.

1101
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 1: The story we haven't told this story, yes, all right,

1102
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 1: So this was when Paparulette went to Chicago's Sketch Fest

1103
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: like four years ago. Three years ago, okay, a long

1104
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: time ago now like four years ago, and I really

1105
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 1: hadn't gotten late in a long time, and we were

1106
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: all were kind of like, let's let's go out. We

1107
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 1: want to go on definitely like try to have sex.

1108
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 1: So we went to Berlin and I wore like this

1109
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:12,479
Speaker 1: like three quarters sleeve like baseball shirt, like really trying

1110
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 1: to twink, like I was like really trying. So I

1111
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: walk in and immediately this guy's like says in like

1112
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: a Russian accent, Like I can't do a Russian accent.

1113
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: But he was like, it's my birthday tonight, and I'm

1114
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 1: gonna give you my business card. When you leave, call

1115
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 1: me and I'll have a car come pick you up

1116
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 1: and you'll come over and we'll have a good time. No,

1117
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 1: that wasn't him. It wasn't so I was like I

1118
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 1: was feeling good. So I was like, okay, cool, and

1119
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 1: I looked at my friends and I was like, I

1120
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 1: think this might really happen for me to now I

1121
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 1: don't know if I'll call this guy but them and

1122
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: then keep my options open. So then we start like

1123
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 1: fanning out, like dancing around, and our friend Dave gets

1124
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 1: like carried away by someone, and you and John Socolo

1125
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 1: were like dancing around and we would know and people

1126
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 1: were probab be looking at John. People were no I was.

1127
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 1: I was loving it because no one was looking at me.

1128
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 1: You were not interested in the in the meat. I

1129
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 1: was interested in the meat. But I was almost like

1130
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 1: op pressure is off, like no, like I'm not here

1131
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 1: for anything. Oh they're so racist, especially this place was

1132
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 1: all white guys. It was like all it was like

1133
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 1: Eastern European like Berlin's like Pixie Dream like manic Pixie

1134
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 1: dream girl gay barts like the white the quirky white

1135
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 1: gays go well, I like dressed the part and like

1136
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 1: I was like trying it. So this I feel like

1137
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 1: we're dancing and I just feel this one that cough

1138
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: behind me, and I'm like, okay, cool. So we continue

1139
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 1: to dance and I look over to Bowen and I go, Bowen,

1140
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 1: is he cute? Like I pointed, is he? I can't

1141
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 1: see him? Literally we couldn't see him at you should

1142
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 1: say that. I was right behind. I was next to

1143
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 1: Dave Well John John, Yeah, but Dave is like off

1144
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 1: with his guy. Dave's getting like dry humped in the

1145
01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 1: corner so like, and then he actually he was now

1146
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,439
Speaker 1: with a crazy guy who that guy tried to suck

1147
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 1: Dave's dick in the like absolutely not um. And that

1148
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 1: guy was like closet and was like I have to

1149
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 1: do it here because I can't go anywhere. And he

1150
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 1: was like that's so sad. But we got all this

1151
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 1: Chicago the cub. But I said to Bone is he cute?

1152
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 1: And Bone goes yeah, yeah, it was the opposite. John

1153
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 1: goes yeah, yeah, he's cute. And I said, bo, when

1154
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 1: is he cute? And Bone goes no, no. So at

1155
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 1: that point, oh my god, this is such a crazy story. Literally,

1156
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 1: if you're out there like the young days, never do this,

1157
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 1: like you could be dead. So I was, so he

1158
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:47,439
Speaker 1: tells me like we would go we should go home now.

1159
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 1: I was like okay, So we go outside and tell

1160
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 1: them I'm leaving. We go outside. Delight hits him and

1161
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 1: I see he's like older, and which is fine, what

1162
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 1: just fine? But it's not what I thought was happening.

1163
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 1: I expected to turn around and I would see like

1164
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 1: some guy and it's like, you know, thirties. I was

1165
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 1: like twenty three. I knew he was older like and

1166
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 1: I was excited about it, but he was like older older,

1167
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 1: Um with him. So we get in the car and

1168
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 1: I said, and he tells the driver his address, and

1169
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 1: I'm like I'm like, um, do you live really far away?

1170
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 1: And he goes, everywhere in Chicago is very fun, and

1171
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 1: I was like, that doesn't sound like it could be true.

1172
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: Everywhere in Chicago was far. I think you asked him,

1173
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 1: so where do you live? He goes very far. I

1174
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 1: was like, like, you live like in Chicago? Right? He

1175
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 1: goes everywhere? And then I was like, um, how old

1176
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 1: are you? I just asked, and he goes, how old

1177
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 1: do you think I am? And I was like thirty five?

1178
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 1: He goes. I was like okay, cool, cool, cool, Um

1179
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 1: again fine, but then um, what what else do you say?

1180
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 1: In the car? It was like so there was like

1181
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 1: more insanity, and he said that he was like a nurse.

1182
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 1: He cares for the elderly all day and he never

1183
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 1: gets to like see anyone my age. And I said,

1184
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 1: I said, like, so, were you there alone? And he goes, yes,

1185
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: that is where I go to find them. I said,

1186
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 1: I said, fine, who he said, boys like you? And

1187
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 1: we're in the car leaving Chicago, like we're driving well

1188
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 1: out of the city, like, and we were in that

1189
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 1: cabby for a half hour we drove that's like evans no,

1190
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 1: we du so, and I keept saying to myself, like

1191
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 1: I do I ask this guy to pull over, Like

1192
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 1: I'm starting to get like a little unco was this

1193
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 1: pre or post uber? This was right as uber. We

1194
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 1: were definitely in a cab. So we eventually get to

1195
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 1: his place and again, mind you, this is like it's

1196
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 1: so fucking cold, everything is frozen over. So he's like,

1197
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 1: I live over here, and then we're like I have

1198
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 1: to like essentially ice skate across the spot to get

1199
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 1: to his apartment. And we get to his apartment. He

1200
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 1: opens the door and I swear to guy to we're

1201
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 1: like in like I don't know where the funk we are.

1202
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 1: We get to this apartment. He opened the door, and

1203
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 1: I swear to you it's an empty room with a

1204
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 1: bow flex machine, a mat, and a dog look at

1205
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 1: like a like a Doberman or something like sitting on

1206
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 1: the mat, like Eastern European thing. It was so so

1207
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god. I was like,

1208
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 1: you know, I need to use the restroom. I was like,

1209
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 1: I need to use the restroom. He goes, Okay, it's

1210
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 1: right over there. I'll be in the bedroom and like

1211
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, Okay, I go into

1212
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 1: the bathroom and I'm like I was like, I was

1213
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 1: like I looked at myself in the mirror, and I'm like,

1214
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:01,439
Speaker 1: you literally could leave right now. Just walk out, walk

1215
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 1: back to the main road, like just wait for a

1216
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 1: taxi to come. Stand there, wait then you'll get in

1217
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 1: the cab. And I remembered John's address where he was staying.

1218
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 1: But I then I for some reason said to myself,

1219
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 1: like you know what, no, like I haven't experience like

1220
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 1: he's a nice guy, like this is fine whatever, like

1221
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 1: it's all good, like this is fine, like years old,

1222
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 1: like he's a little older, he's a little weird. He's

1223
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 1: just far and he's not strange. He's not got anything.

1224
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 1: He's a quirky white guy at Berlin by himself. So

1225
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 1: I go back out, and then I also realized I

1226
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 1: couldn't leave because I had taken my shoes off, which

1227
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 1: is so stupid. So I go back out and he's

1228
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 1: like fully naked on the bed and it was like

1229
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 1: he was like, all right, come on, let's do this.

1230
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my god. So I proceed

1231
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 1: to get undressed, and before anything can happen, I just

1232
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 1: go no, there's absolutely no way. So then I turn

1233
01:07:56,560 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 1: on this performance where I just say like, I'm so sorry,

1234
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 1: I can't do this. I just broke it with my

1235
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:08,919
Speaker 1: boyfriend and this is not true. I'm just start having

1236
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 1: this scene and he says to me, and I'm laying

1237
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 1: on the bed at this point, and I don't have

1238
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 1: my clothes on. So I go to get up and

1239
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:18,639
Speaker 1: he takes me and pushes me back on the dead

1240
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 1: and I said no. I was like if I looked

1241
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 1: at him and I said, this is not happening. So

1242
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:28,599
Speaker 1: then he gets off and he starts like almost crying.

1243
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 1: He's like I'm so lonely. He's like, I they always leave.

1244
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 1: All the boys that I bring back here, they always leave.

1245
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm so sorry. I wish I

1246
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 1: wasn't in such emotional turmoil like getting dressed again, and

1247
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm so sorry. Like uh, And I thought

1248
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 1: to myself like you're crazy, like you're hurting this guy's feeling.

1249
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 1: And then the other part of me was like, no,

1250
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 1: get then you should never have come. I was like,

1251
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 1: imagine like hearing like my mother hearing this is how

1252
01:08:56,240 --> 01:09:00,639
Speaker 1: I went. Yeah, on the bed, but I was with you.

1253
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 1: But the thing is like I was in the worst place.

1254
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is literally how people die.

1255
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 1: They go with single people that are like older by themselves,

1256
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 1: who literally said he goes there to find boys. And

1257
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 1: I was like no. I freaked out and I was like,

1258
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 1: get me the fuck out of here. So I get

1259
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 1: dressed and I go to leave, and I'm like and

1260
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 1: the door was like like locked from the inside, and

1261
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 1: I'm like can you open this? He's like you please,

1262
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 1: I please, And I was like I'm not going to

1263
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 1: and the dog is looking at me like also begging

1264
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:39,600
Speaker 1: me to start, and he just holds me at the

1265
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 1: door and I was like, oh my god, Oh my god,

1266
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 1: Oh my god. And he eventually lets me go. That's

1267
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 1: when I realized it's like literally four in the morning

1268
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 1: in a part of like Illinois that I don't fucking now,

1269
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 1: and we're so far away, so and it's so cold.

1270
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:56,800
Speaker 1: So I walk out to the main road and I'm like,

1271
01:09:57,720 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 1: what the funk, Like, I'm literally gonna wait for it.

1272
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,640
Speaker 1: See I seriously literally fifteen twenty minutes, like on the

1273
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 1: side of the road, like by myself. I had no

1274
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 1: other way because Uber wasn't like really a thing. So

1275
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 1: finally it actually comes and I jump in, and also,

1276
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 1: you know, my phone was like on six percent. So

1277
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 1: we got in and I got the take back, take

1278
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 1: me back to the city. Yeah, And I got in

1279
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:22,560
Speaker 1: and the doorman was like looking at me like what

1280
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 1: the fuck? Like it was like literally four in the morning,

1281
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:27,639
Speaker 1: and I was sleeping with Boone and I crawled into

1282
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 1: that with Bowen and I'll let you say this, So

1283
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 1: we were showing yourself about the night before and then

1284
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 1: this night when Matt comes back, he's wasted. I'm basically

1285
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 1: coming out of a drunken stupor. But I'm asleep, but

1286
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 1: I wake up to him to his body over mine,

1287
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:52,720
Speaker 1: with just a terrifyingly drunken grant and he goes a

1288
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 1: study like mine has never been told. I did not

1289
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 1: do the accent, but I didn't say the line for

1290
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 1: memoirs had never been told, and it was. And then

1291
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:13,639
Speaker 1: I screamed, said get the fun off. And then yes,

1292
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 1: I told the story the next morning, and no one

1293
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 1: believed me. And it's so funny and it also said

1294
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 1: a lot of really weird ship and I can't remember,

1295
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 1: but oh my god, thank you for indulging that story, Jabouki.

1296
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:28,839
Speaker 1: Before we move on, we want to ask you Chicago

1297
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:32,640
Speaker 1: is weird? Chicago is great? Um, just just say yes

1298
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:37,720
Speaker 1: or now still single? Yes? Damn wow check that out. Guys. Well,

1299
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 1: I'm only asking because because I'm following up on the

1300
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 1: Alps and also looking, um but I don't really have

1301
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 1: I don't really have time. Also really just rethinking monogamy

1302
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:50,720
Speaker 1: get into this, Okay, you want to talk about this? Yeah, no,

1303
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 1: I just um don't think that it really works for

1304
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 1: me at this point in my life. And yeah, I

1305
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 1: don't think that it's that you should shut it for us.

1306
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 1: It is it is such a conversation. Yeah, it's a

1307
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 1: whole thing. It's really such a whole thing. And I

1308
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 1: don't have the education or the knowledge to really speak

1309
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 1: on that. That's fine. I'm such like in the beginning stages,

1310
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 1: have you been in your relationship before M and but

1311
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 1: and that's how he knows yea and also try to

1312
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 1: do like the open thing. But it was so clear

1313
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:21,599
Speaker 1: that I was like way more comfortable with that then s. Yeah, yeah,

1314
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 1: it's it's it's very hard. It's it's like it's it's

1315
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:27,839
Speaker 1: like a whole another layer two in the gay community,

1316
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 1: because there's so many couples that are open, and you're

1317
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:33,560
Speaker 1: just like, gosh, that's it's just because it works for

1318
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 1: them doesn't mean it works for you. But you do

1319
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 1: compare yourself to those couples all the time. I mean, hey, listen, people, Uh,

1320
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 1: Jabouki is available, but he's not exactly down for um.

1321
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:48,799
Speaker 1: You know what, if you fell in love with Jabooki

1322
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 1: while listening to this, you need to relax. You need

1323
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 1: to relax because Jabouki, like all celebs, you don't know him.

1324
01:12:57,760 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 1: You don't know you only heard him speak for a

1325
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 1: little bit over and were you don't fucking know him.

1326
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 1: And also he's not that into maybe that kind of

1327
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:08,879
Speaker 1: relationship right now. So everyone listening to this, fucking relax, relax,

1328
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 1: just get step off, step off. The title of this

1329
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 1: episode will be like, will be relaxed, step off, relaxed,

1330
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 1: step off. U monogamy is dead. Okay, um, let's move

1331
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 1: on to I don't Yeah, there you go. Let's move

1332
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 1: on to I don't think so, honey. This is the

1333
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 1: moment I don't think so, honey. The length of the

1334
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 1: story I just told I'm so sorry. I mean, was

1335
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:31,680
Speaker 1: it really saga? But I loved it. And the build up,

1336
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 1: the build up in the day New Well, the build

1337
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:38,639
Speaker 1: up all goes to you crouching over me and saying, quoting,

1338
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 1: quoting a movie to me, it was completely repulsive and

1339
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 1: that was it. That's That's like I was younger than

1340
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 1: and didn't understand. I'm not saying it's like the movie itself.

1341
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 1: It was inappropriate. Just you whispering that in my ear

1342
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 1: and someone, I'm a gross drunk. You're such a gross

1343
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,720
Speaker 1: drunk and it infuriates me. I called b one one

1344
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 1: time when I didn't have Uber on my phone, and

1345
01:13:58,280 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 1: I said, call me an uber and he has a

1346
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 1: sponds was you're so drunk, and you know what, I

1347
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 1: had to call him the uber from my phone and

1348
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 1: tell him, like a friend, Matt, when you get into

1349
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,759
Speaker 1: the car, you make sure you say my name okay,

1350
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 1: And he was like what why? And like a friend? Yes, Um,

1351
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 1: you know I haven't had to put matth through that scenario.

1352
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:23,599
Speaker 1: Let you would see me die on the street. No, no, Matt,

1353
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 1: I very so for a fact that I wouldn't let

1354
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 1: that happen. But I don't know if I can say

1355
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 1: the same about to let that happen. But bone would

1356
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 1: give you ship about it. There you go. You know what,

1357
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 1: maybe I'd rather die. Maybe i'd rather be. Didn't let

1358
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:40,799
Speaker 1: you die of the thing, you idiot, that's what's important.

1359
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:42,800
Speaker 1: I was in red hook at one in the morning.

1360
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, just and I told you, I said, Matt,

1361
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 1: download Uber on your phone at the time. Uber was

1362
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 1: my phone's not good? Come on? Um? I thought his

1363
01:14:57,360 --> 01:15:01,560
Speaker 1: computer couldn't make PDFs, all right? So this is I

1364
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:04,560
Speaker 1: don't think some honey, this is our one minute. I

1365
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:07,839
Speaker 1: was gonna say screed, and I just learned today screed

1366
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 1: actually means long, boring speech, which is not. People in

1367
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 1: the press have described I don't Think so Honey as

1368
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:16,559
Speaker 1: a screed, and it's not. Yeah, shockingly, Um, we've been

1369
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:19,640
Speaker 1: using vocabulary words wrong, which for brown is bone is

1370
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:21,560
Speaker 1: very off. Brandon for me is like pretty part for

1371
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 1: the course. It is not a screed. It is the

1372
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 1: total opposite. It's a short, concentrated, fiery, passionate parcels what

1373
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 1: screeds should mean. That's what it sounds like a screen.

1374
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 1: It's like an aggressive word, right, And I was shocked

1375
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 1: at like it's like nonplused. It's like it doesn't it

1376
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 1: doesn't mean we think it means. So, um, we can

1377
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:44,440
Speaker 1: get into that. I'm so nonplussed right now. I'm nonplussed.

1378
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 1: Right now you're angry. Yes, I'm nonplussed. We haven't started.

1379
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:50,679
Speaker 1: But people use it all the time, like oh yeah,

1380
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:52,560
Speaker 1: like she didn't care she was nonplused. It's like, no,

1381
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 1: that's not the right word anyway, but it may it

1382
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 1: may be one of those things like literally, so if

1383
01:15:56,880 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 1: I'm plussed, then then you're like, yeah, you got sos, alright,

1384
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 1: let's do I don't think you're gonna go first. I'll

1385
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:07,639
Speaker 1: go first. All right, This is Boon Yang's I don't

1386
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 1: think so, honey, and his time starts now. I don't

1387
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 1: think so, honey. Wine bars that don't have peanot grausio,

1388
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 1: what the funk are you doing? I was just at

1389
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 1: a wine bar earlier today, and I asked, can I

1390
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 1: have a peanot grigio or like a buttery shardon a,

1391
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 1: but I would prefer the pinot grig show. And this

1392
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 1: man had the nerve to tell me we don't have

1393
01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:30,640
Speaker 1: peanot grigio, and I I had, I took everything I

1394
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 1: mean to say to not say to him. You're a

1395
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:34,679
Speaker 1: wine bar, how dare you? I don't think so, honey.

1396
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 1: You better fulfill your promise as a wine bar to

1397
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 1: include every type of white wine. And I don't think so, honey,

1398
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 1: of these places. The atmosphere, Honey, I don't know. I

1399
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:47,679
Speaker 1: don't know, honey. The atmosphere at most wine bars is bullshit.

1400
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:50,560
Speaker 1: And I can emulate this experience at home. And I

1401
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:52,680
Speaker 1: don't think so, hony, of these places that charge me

1402
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:56,759
Speaker 1: twelve dollars, twelve dollars for a class of ship. I'm sorry, blanc,

1403
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:58,600
Speaker 1: because that's what I had. You know, what is is

1404
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 1: still very fresh in my memory. So I don't too much.

1405
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 1: I don't have the enough distance to really comment on this,

1406
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:05,760
Speaker 1: but I just know that I'm mad. I have I

1407
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 1: have fury, and I don't think so honey, wine bars

1408
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 1: that don't have peanot griggio. That's one minute. It's a

1409
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 1: shame that four of those seconds were apologetic, apologized. No,

1410
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 1: but you know what, I'm just being really up front

1411
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 1: emotionally with how I feel about this, and I think

1412
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 1: that it is a shame that that wine bar didn't

1413
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 1: have peenot grigio. Ridiculous, ridiculous, despite that's kind of out

1414
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 1: of control. It's crazy. No, that's actually crazy. That's such

1415
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 1: a staple. It's it's white. Why white. I do prefer

1416
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 1: Savigna blanc. I had a great Savigna bloc there, But

1417
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 1: like they if they have peanot, if they have peanot noir,

1418
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 1: and anybody as well have peinot griggio. If you have

1419
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 1: the black, might as well have the gray I mean noir,

1420
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 1: of course. Okay, of course we all know that, we

1421
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 1: all knew this. Okay, so this is Matt Rodgers. I

1422
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:53,560
Speaker 1: don't think yeah, okay, this is his time and it

1423
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 1: starts right now. I don't think so honey Dunkin Donuts

1424
01:17:56,400 --> 01:18:00,120
Speaker 1: because now if I want to order the sausage can

1425
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:04,719
Speaker 1: cheese croissant, it doesn't necessarily come with the hash browns.

1426
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey dunkin Donuts. There's no meal

1427
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 1: option for this anymore. I went the other day and

1428
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 1: I said, excuse me, honey, can I get the sausage

1429
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 1: and cheese meal? And they said that we don't do that.

1430
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:19,639
Speaker 1: I was like, excuse me, honey, I don't think so honey.

1431
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 1: I want the hash browns. He said, you'll have to

1432
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 1: order it separately. I said, I don't think, so honey.

1433
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:27,719
Speaker 1: Of course I did because I wanted to hash browns.

1434
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 1: But the thing is, why should I have to I

1435
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:33,519
Speaker 1: don't understand, honey. And then also I have to order

1436
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 1: my coffee separate. Excuse me. Also, I don't think so

1437
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 1: honey Dunking Donuts. You load that ship up with sugar.

1438
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:43,679
Speaker 1: When I ordered a coffee ice, light and sweet, don't

1439
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 1: give me these mouthons of sugar, honey, milk and too

1440
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 1: much milk. It feels like I'm in that Tiger and

1441
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 1: the Laddin that collapses. It's so much sand and sugar

1442
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 1: in that glass. I don't think so, that's one. He

1443
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 1: feels like the Tiger and Aladdin. Did you get what

1444
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 1: I was meaning you when I said that, like you

1445
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 1: are you are the Cave of wonders Tiger, or like

1446
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:08,639
Speaker 1: when I drink a coffee, it's like consuming the cave

1447
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 1: of wonders Tiger. Yeah, it's like what happened if you

1448
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 1: were in the cave of wonders, which I just found

1449
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 1: is what it's called. I was calling up the sand tiger. Okay,

1450
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:18,560
Speaker 1: if you were in the santiger and a collapse in

1451
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 1: your mouth would surely fill with sand, which is what

1452
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 1: I feel happens. When I take even one sip of

1453
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 1: an iced coffee light and sweet from dungantanas, my mouth

1454
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 1: fills with proverbial sand aka sugar, and it's too much

1455
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 1: for me. Sugar also known as proverbial sand. Um. Okay,

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01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 1: this is jabooky young wines, very persecuted on today's episode. Okay,

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01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 1: this is jabooky young whites. I don't think so, honey,

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01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 1: are you ready, jabook? I'm ready? Okay, And I think

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01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 1: he gave us a little hint about what it was

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01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 1: before we went on air. I think I'm very excited

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01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 1: for this. This is jabuky young whites. I don't think so, honey.

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01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:52,639
Speaker 1: Time starts now. I don't think so, honey, take her tots, okay.

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01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 1: I don't y'all want to be French fries literally so bad.

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01:19:57,680 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 1: But you are not French fries, and you will ever

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01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 1: be French fries or legacy will never compare to French fries.

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01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 1: You will always be a side dish in kids meals,

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01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 1: no matter how artisanal you get. I don't think so, honey.

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01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:13,599
Speaker 1: I don't care if you put a little garlic gaoli

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01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 1: on the side, honey. I don't think so all right,

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01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 1: I will always choose some steak fries over you, fries

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01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:26,080
Speaker 1: over some some shoes string fries over you. I don't

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01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 1: think so honey. Tater tots. You're never cooked all the

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01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:32,639
Speaker 1: way through. Your inside is flavorless. So I don't think

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01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 1: so honey. I want seconds brown blakey fries and not

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01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 1: that soggy tater tot bullshit. I don't think so. You're nasty,

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01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 1: You're wrong. You're a food gastro abomination. Wowny know what

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01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 1: else about they fall apart? Yes, that's by design. I said,

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01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:02,360
Speaker 1: fuck you, I'm not with it. I'm not I want

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01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:04,559
Speaker 1: my food to be whole. I like jabooky. I don't

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01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 1: know about shoestring fries. To be honest, are you would

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01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 1: you take shoestring fries over steak fries? Oh? No, there

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01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 1: you go, steak string shoestring are the worst variety at

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01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 1: the bottom, but there's still above. Tatoo tatoots are garbage.

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01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 1: How do you feel like hash browns? Gross? What the

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01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 1: fucking little like oval hash browns? Or are you talking

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01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 1: about like hash Okay, like hash browns like I think

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01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 1: we can agree on hashbrowns, like like pants, like trying pancake.

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01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 1: Hash bands are delicious, but they're two different kinds we're

1489
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 1: talking about like McDonald I'm talking about McDonald's. Those are

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01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 1: disc god, my favorite of my favorite food. You are

1491
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:46,760
Speaker 1: culture No, no, no, I don't know about They leave

1492
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 1: this really gross taste in your mouth. Like what was this?

1493
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 1: You said you were in this argument with someone else

1494
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 1: about tater tots today? What were they saying? Okay, I

1495
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 1: dropped it in the room. Looked at me like I

1496
01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:58,639
Speaker 1: was crazy, because I kind of a kind to believe

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01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 1: you are. Yeah, Like they were all just saying that

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01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 1: I hadn't had the right Tater Toto. It was a

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01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 1: little parallel to homophobia. Honestly, God that Dylan Marin. I

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01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:15,880
Speaker 1: want to say, you haven't have you been to kryft Dog's,

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01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 1: no taters kryptogs. Honestly, everyone says that I tried some

1502
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 1: tatter tests today. It was all right. I had half

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01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 1: brons today and I wanted to bottom for them, bottom

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01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 1: out for brown, for hash brown. But there's nothing like

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01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 1: your McDonald's hash brown, and there's nothing like them good

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01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 1: good McDonald's fries when they're nice and salty? Bitch? Is

1507
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 1: that your sponsor? Our sponsor today? Did you imagine McDonald

1508
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 1: I want McDonald's money for this podcast, Hpjans? Oh wow,

1509
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 1: those were that was That was great? That was you

1510
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:58,519
Speaker 1: know what I will say, Matt and I came today

1511
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:01,599
Speaker 1: with them. Some retail based, I don't think so, honey,

1512
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 1: Some institutional based, I don't think so. It's right like

1513
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:06,600
Speaker 1: I would have to attack big big food, But I

1514
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:09,280
Speaker 1: think you punch up, punch up, punch up with Jabooky,

1515
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:11,760
Speaker 1: punched way way up because Jabooky took on a whole

1516
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 1: food type which you know pervades everything. Yeah, but who

1517
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:19,679
Speaker 1: do you think has more money? Tater Tots? Or duncan.

1518
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 1: I think or Rida has so much fun, has a

1519
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:29,839
Speaker 1: big big potato, has everything big Potato. Maybe the episode

1520
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 1: is called big Potato, Big Potato. That's cute. Jabooky is adorable.

1521
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 1: J Everyone relax, everyone relaxed. Do you think so much

1522
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 1: for coming and taking bad? This is very fun. We

1523
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:48,799
Speaker 1: had a very good time. I got Jabookey on Twitter, jabuie.

1524
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 1: What can people follow you at Jabooky? There you go,

1525
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:55,680
Speaker 1: Jerry Booky every plot and imagine just getting your first name.

1526
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 1: Imagine if I was at Matt do you imagine? I can't.

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01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:01,559
Speaker 1: I can't imagine that is It's been amazing for branding

1528
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 1: on I would fully believe Francesca Ramsey has this like

1529
01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 1: a fun little like like branding like the thing that

1530
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:12,759
Speaker 1: I read. She's like, keep your handles the same across

1531
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:20,840
Speaker 1: all platforms, which is brilliant. Brilliant dot com dot com Yes, yeah,

1532
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:24,639
Speaker 1: yeah about it, get it, get get good, get it unlocked.

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01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:32,880
Speaker 1: I spent three million dollars on Matt dot Com. I

1534
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 1: guess we're off to the world, aren't we to see it?

1535
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 1: Congret Perhaps I'm someone that you will never truly know,

1536
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 1: no matter how big I get, no matter what interviews

1537
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:53,760
Speaker 1: you see me do you will never truly know me

1538
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 1: and also don't presume to know me. And our guest

1539
01:24:57,400 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 1: has been someone who has changed the zeitgeist in the

1540
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:05,799
Speaker 1: money first century more than anybody. Okay, hie, guys. Bye,

1541
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:11,200
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