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Speaker 2: This is the Best of the Herd with Colin Cowhert

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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Hello and welcome. It's Friday here on the Herd. It's

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Speaker 3: me Jason McIntyre in for one more day before Colin

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Speaker 3: Cowhert returns.

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Speaker 4: I'm joined by Rachel Nichols.

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Speaker 3: We've got a splendid Friday show for you.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I could have gone with any adjective.

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Speaker 3: Rachel lucat Doncis Traut's a sixty piece on.

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Speaker 5: The second night of a back to back on the

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Speaker 5: road where he sports forty the night before you we

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Speaker 5: got hundred points in twenty six hours.

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Speaker 3: People are sick of the Lakers, but I'm sorry we

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Speaker 3: have to talk about them obviously.

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Speaker 4: NCAA tournament, my guy Boozer didn't.

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Speaker 3: Quite look like Baby Jokic and the opener against Mighty

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Speaker 3: Sienna Duke prevails a couple of good upsets, high.

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Speaker 4: Points shot in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 5: You picked that I did, remember I asked you about

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Speaker 5: first round upsets, and you know typeline.

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Speaker 3: I tend to do well in the tournament bracket. Not

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Speaker 3: totally busted yet. Got a couple of great guests on

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Speaker 3: the show, pro Bowler, a potential All NBA first team

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Speaker 3: rookie guy.

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Speaker 4: Maybe we'll see if he gets on the first team.

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Speaker 3: And then Michael Rubin, your friend fanatics co founder, joining

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Speaker 3: the show talk flag football in the final hour.

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Speaker 4: But I have to start with the Lakers.

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Speaker 3: Normally it be automatic NCAA tournament, right, Not so fast,

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Speaker 3: my friends. Look at what the Lakers are doing, folks,

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Speaker 3: The story keeps getting crazier. I mean, seriously, they can't

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Speaker 3: be beat right now. So, in NBA parlance, last night

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Speaker 3: for the Lakers was supposed to be a scheduled loss. Okay,

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Speaker 3: they play Wednesday in Houston.

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Speaker 4: Game ends. They got to fly to South Beach.

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Speaker 3: Apparently they land around four am, get to the hotel

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Speaker 3: at five, as you heard here yesterday.

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Speaker 4: On the show. When you hear that, you're like.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's assume Luca's gonna sit uh Lebron, I mean

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Speaker 3: the old man forty one, he's gonna sit probably rest.

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Speaker 3: Austin Reeves, you don't need to risk injury. You're in

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Speaker 3: the middle of a long road trip. So as the

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Speaker 3: story goes, JJ Reddick said, anybody tired, who's healthy, who's

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Speaker 3: ready to go, and Lebron.

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Speaker 4: James, it was the first one. I'm in. Lebron. That's leadership,

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Speaker 4: my friends.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't sound like somebody who's pouting and whining about

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Speaker 3: next year or whether or not he fits alongside Luca

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Speaker 3: and Reeves. That sounds like leadership. And Lebron's saying he's

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Speaker 3: gonna play. Instantly, everyone fell in line. It's Luca, it's Reeves.

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Speaker 3: And then the real surprise happened. Luca dodge it. On

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Speaker 3: the second night of a back to back. As Rachel said,

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Speaker 3: he scored forty against Houston. He dropped a sixty piece

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Speaker 3: folks sixty points in thirty eight minutes.

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Speaker 4: Last night.

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Speaker 3: The Lakers stunned the heat. And listen, Miami's not a

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Speaker 3: great team this year. Their top eight in the East.

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Speaker 3: They have a player named bam Adebayo who scored eighty

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Speaker 3: three points last week. I think we'll reference that in

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Speaker 3: who talked about the Lakers. They're not settling anymore. This

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Speaker 6: When he said he was playing, I was like, I

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Speaker 6: can't let a forty one year old playing out on plays.

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Speaker 6: So Love signed up to play, and so did Luca,

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Speaker 6: and we went grounded and win out. It's not an

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Speaker 6: easy one, especially at the pace that that team plays at.

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Speaker 6: But the second half, especially that third quarter, we play

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Speaker 6: some go basketball and then down the stretch and I

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Speaker 3: You see the celebration and you can just tell the

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Speaker 3: vibes are off the charts right now. I mean they

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Speaker 3: to the free throw line to get his sixtieth point,

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Speaker 3: an authentic sixty, not a fugazi sixty.

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Speaker 4: Okay. Lebron, by the way, got to give him some props.

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Speaker 3: You see on the screen thirty fifteen and ten, and

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Speaker 3: our stats team came up with this whopper. This is crazy, guys,

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Speaker 3: over the age of forty in the history of basketball,

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Speaker 3: The entire rest of the league has won Karl Malone.

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Speaker 3: I could not have guessed Karmelone. That's how dominant Lebron

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Speaker 3: was on the night of a back to back. And again,

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Speaker 3: we're like four weeks removed from does Lebron fit with

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Speaker 3: this team?

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Speaker 4: Hello, narrative killer, That's what Lebron's doing right now.

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Speaker 4: I just want to really.

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Speaker 3: Quick, want to drill down on Luca's sixty for a

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Speaker 3: he only has three dunks this year. I don't think

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Speaker 3: he's first team All NBA. All he does is wine. Listen,

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Speaker 3: Luca is shredding everybody. He's torching the league, and he's

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Speaker 3: torching the media. Anybody wanted to push back on Luca,

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Speaker 3: hey man, just take it.

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Speaker 4: You were wrong.

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Speaker 7: Eat it.

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Speaker 3: He had sixty points, and you could argue Luca's sixty

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Speaker 4: They needed it. They had to come back in the

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Speaker 3: Luca's sixty was more impressive than BAM's eighty three last week.

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Speaker 3: Now I know you think, hey, Jay, save that for

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Speaker 3: hot take happy hour.

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Speaker 4: I don't need to. That's a legitimate take. That's credible. BAM.

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Speaker 3: Last week eighty three points, there was some gimmicks involved. Hey,

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Speaker 3: let's intentionally foul so BAM can get the ball back

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Speaker 3: get to the free throw line. I mean, they were

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Speaker 3: up a billion. He barely shoots threes. He's just chucking

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Speaker 3: all game long. And again, eighty three points is amazing. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: I'm not knocking that. The path to eighty three not

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Speaker 3: as pure as Luca's sixty sixty earned a little more

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Speaker 3: impressive than eighty three given and here's what Luca's done

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Speaker 3: I mean, just doing an unbelievable job. Somebody in our

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Speaker 3: Again, not taking away from BAMS eighty three just putting

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Speaker 3: it in context what Luca did last night, sixty on

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Speaker 3: tanking Wizards were BAM's opponent during the eighty three. I'm

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Speaker 3: just continue to be blown away by the Lakers. They

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Speaker 3: have a huge one in Orlando's Saturday. I know there's

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Speaker 3: NCAA tournament games, It's the weekend. It's gonna be like

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Speaker 3: the Lakers, who seem to be rolling toward the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 3: All Right, now, I'm gonna pivot to college basketball, and

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Speaker 3: you guys know I love to geek out during the tournament.

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Speaker 3: We had some amazing guests this week, Casey Jacobson, Miles Simon.

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Speaker 3: Everybody seems to be under the consensus that aj Debonsa

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Speaker 3: probably the number one pick. It was Darren Peterson for

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Speaker 3: a minute, and now it's pivoted back to Debonza. Boozers lurking,

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Speaker 3: Darius Acuff is in the mix, Caleb Wilson.

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Speaker 4: As well, but Bonsa, let's talk about him.

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Speaker 3: So yesterday, the BYU Star scores thirty five and has

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Speaker 4: How do you stop him? We can't stop him? I

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Speaker 4: mean Aj.

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Speaker 3: Debonsa was insane. If you've seen the highlight reels online.

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Speaker 3: I see like a young Tracy McGrady. You know, some

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Speaker 3: line is Aj Debonsa is going to be an NBA pro,

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Speaker 3: maybe the first pick overall.

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Speaker 4: I just had a I just had a question.

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Speaker 3: He cost in the five to seven million dollar range.

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Speaker 3: If you look online, he allegedly got seven million dollars.

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Speaker 3: Last year they made the Sweet sixteen guys, good run,

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Speaker 3: This year they get Aj Debonsa. They're like a middle

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Speaker 3: Obviously that hurts, but for five to seven million dollars,

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Speaker 3: get the number one recruit, top five recruit, you take him, obviously.

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Speaker 3: Basketballs should be easier, right, five guys pay them, right,

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Speaker 3: Michigan's doing it. You know, Duke by you interestingly has

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Speaker 3: Dabonsa at seven mil. I'm just wondering our team seeing

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Speaker 3: this and being like, hey, we all know, no Man

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Speaker 3: impossible in this era. There's just too much talent. Would

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Speaker 3: go I don't know, two guys for two million.

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Speaker 4: And a one million dollar guy and oh, by the way,

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Speaker 3: Hey, let's let's run it back next year. We're not

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Speaker 3: going to the league yet. And again I'm not saying

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Speaker 3: you don't take de Bonsa. I'm just asking a question

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Speaker 3: like was the value? Did they get the value that

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Speaker 3: they spent on Debonsa? And it's not a knock on

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Speaker 3: the kid. He brought the major pub right there, all

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Speaker 3: over newspapers online, we're talking about him on this show.

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Speaker 3: When do you talk about BYU basketball and national TV shows?

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Speaker 4: Not ever?

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Speaker 3: And they got high profile games and again he was exceptional.

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Speaker 3: But they're one and done. It's over. We don't get

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Speaker 3: any more De Bonsa, and to me, that makes it

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Speaker 3: on trying to stop the potential number one pick in

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Speaker 8: We understood that he has the ability to score like

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Speaker 8: nobody else. What we talked about is a jump shot

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Speaker 8: by him as a victory for us. Among the many

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Speaker 8: things he does, he just he puts so many fouls

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Speaker 8: And we were able to, you know, play him. And

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Speaker 3: Obviously, the Lakers the biggest story in the NBA right now.

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Speaker 3: Jason, we should start a podcast about dating etiquette, even

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Speaker 4: I mean, I know something I know. I know nothing

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Speaker 3: What do you know?

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Speaker 3: But I do know a little bit about NBA MVP awards, Folks.

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Speaker 4: Things change, results of just matters. Let's go.

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Speaker 3: Let's start with number five, number five, SGA. I know

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Speaker 3: the second leg of back to.

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Speaker 4: Backs this season, thirty nine. But I was told he's

436
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Speaker 4: in old twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: And he doesn't dunk anymore. The guy had nine threes

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Speaker 3: last night. He's unbelievable. There's just too many accolades for

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Speaker 3: me to get into here for Luca. But I have

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Speaker 3: Luca number one. He is my MVP vote as of

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Speaker 3: right now. The fictitious vote that I don't have.

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Speaker 4: But that's my list.

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Speaker 2: I know you probably don't like it. Be sure to

444
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Speaker 2: catch live editions of The Herd weekdays and neon Easter

445
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446
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Speaker 3: All right, let's move on to the NBA and Luca's

448
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Speaker 3: sixty last night. So it comes on the heels and

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Speaker 3: I actually thought, I'm like, Lucas scored sixty.

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Speaker 4: That's weird. Oh it was against the Heat. Oh that's right.

451
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Speaker 3: Bam just dropped eighty three. I wonder if this is

452
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Speaker 3: a get back. Hey, Bam, you're not that special, remember

453
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Speaker 3: Bam was? I mean, there was more criticism for his

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Speaker 3: eighty three point game than I think he anticipated.

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Speaker 4: Some of it warranted. Someone was over the top. I mean,

456
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Speaker 4: eighty three points is tough to do.

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Speaker 3: But after Luca dropped sixty on BAM last night, and

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Speaker 3: again here's Bam cooking against the Washington Wizards.

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Speaker 4: Rachel's tanking Wizards. That was last week. He scored.

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Speaker 5: It's an unnecessary straight thank you.

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Speaker 4: But here's Bay on Luca after Lucas scored sixty. Tell

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Speaker 4: me what you think here.

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Speaker 9: I know it is like the being that mode as people,

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Speaker 9: we're gonna see it is not easy to get eighty.

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Speaker 4: A little debate among the staff here.

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Speaker 3: I think he was saying that in jest, and not

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Speaker 3: everybody seems to think that he's smiling, you know, stroking

468
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Speaker 3: the go tee.

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Speaker 4: It's like it it's tough to get eighty Trump tough

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Speaker 4: to drop an eighty burger. Luca had sixty. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 4: get nine threes.

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Speaker 3: How could Luca go from sixty to eighty three like

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Speaker 3: another twenty three points?

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Speaker 4: No way. Now, it was on a back to back.

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Speaker 3: It does show yet eighty three is hard, and that's

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Speaker 3: why Bam gets props. But my take was the sixties

477
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Speaker 3: actually more impressive because it was on a back to back,

478
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Speaker 3: on a brutal travel spot. And oh, by the way,

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Speaker 3: it was a game that battered against.

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Speaker 4: A good team. Nobody tanking in this one.

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Speaker 3: He'd had their full arsenal guys Tyler Hero played, Norman

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Speaker 3: Powell played, and oh Yeah, there was no gimmick stuff

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Speaker 3: with like intentional fouls, a jacking threes that you wouldn't

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Speaker 3: normally shot. Everything was within the structure of the offense.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's nine of seventeen from three. He only

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Speaker 3: took thirty shots. He didn't like get to the foul line.

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Speaker 3: What was it forty four times? A little gimmicky And

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Speaker 3: again I'm not blasting. It is just the reality. So

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Speaker 3: let me play it one more time and then we'll

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Speaker 3: get Rachel's reaction. Here's ba, I'm out of bio. After

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Speaker 3: Lucas scored sixty. Tell me is this a dig or

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Speaker 3: is he being serious?

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Speaker 9: I though it's like the being that mode. As people

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Speaker 9: can see, it is not easy to get eighty.

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Speaker 4: So Rachel, is he joking or serious? No, he's not joking.

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Speaker 4: He's serious.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Wow, he doesn't think it's easy to get ay.

498
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Speaker 5: And by the way, he's right, it's not easy.

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Speaker 4: He's not right.

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Speaker 5: Like one thing I always say about these when people

501
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Speaker 5: are saying, oh, you know, he did it this way,

502
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Speaker 5: he did it that way. If it was easy, everyone

503
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Speaker 5: would do it, you know how you know it's hard.

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Speaker 5: People don't do it, So it is hard, no matter

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Speaker 5: how he got it. However, I also think that Luka

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Speaker 5: Dancic watched Bam get that eighty three. And remember, Luca

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Speaker 5: got seventy three in a game when he was in Dallas,

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Speaker 5: that's right, right, which was sort of the closest anyone

509
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Speaker 5: had felt like was to Kobe's eighty one. So here's

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Speaker 5: a guy who not only breaks Kobe's mark, but blast

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Speaker 5: past Luca. And I'm sure Luca was sitting there going, oh, well,

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Speaker 5: if I had the intentional fouly, I could have gotten

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Speaker 5: eighty three that night, that sort of thing. So I

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Speaker 5: don't know how much Luca was thinking as he went

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Speaker 5: out on the court last night. I'll show everybody, you know,

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Speaker 5: scoring points.

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Speaker 4: I mean, who knows.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 5: I didn't have a personal heart to hurt with him

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Speaker 5: before he took the court, but I can see that little,

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Speaker 5: you know, one upsmanship on both sides.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, we want that, right. That's fun.

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Speaker 5: That's it's good to have guys being like, oh look

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Speaker 5: at me, well look at me, you know that.

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Speaker 4: Sort of thing. So I'm trying to look up the

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Speaker 4: box score.

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Speaker 3: It looks like Luca's seventy three came against the Atlanta Hawks,

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Speaker 3: in a close game. But I was watching the Lakers

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Speaker 3: game last night and Luca wasn't on pace for sixty

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Speaker 3: at halftime. It wasn't even close. Now, but the third

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Speaker 3: quarter they're down bad, Luca goes off. Yeah, and so

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Speaker 3: that's totally different than Bam. Again, eighty three is really

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Speaker 3: hard to get. But Luca when he beat the uh

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Speaker 3: when he beat the Atlanta Hawks, twenty five of thirty three,

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Speaker 3: fifteen of sixteen on free throws, hit eight threes, they

536
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Speaker 3: needed all of them. It was a close game in

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Speaker 3: the fourth quarter. Like again, Bam, I know it's eighty three.

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Speaker 3: Let's say Luca plays the Wizards next week. Does he

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Speaker 3: say I'm gonna go for ninety?

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Speaker 4: Does he try? I'm just asking. The Wizards are horrific. Sorry,

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Speaker 4: they have no guards, they have no anything. I'm talking

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Speaker 4: about the Wizards. We're talking about BAM and Luca. Come on.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, but if Luca players, do you think he

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Speaker 3: could go for do you? I mean, are other guys

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Speaker 3: around the league says eighty three? I could drop eighty four.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I think with the Lakers, the

547
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 5: way their offense is working right now, we've been talking

548
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Speaker 5: about three guys trying to decide what the distribution is

549
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Speaker 5: on how they share things. I don't think Luca is

550
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Speaker 5: going for a vanity score because it's just not in

551
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Speaker 5: keeping with the way the Lakers are doing things right now,

552
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Speaker 5: right now, So that idea that he'd be like, oh,

553
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Speaker 5: I can shoot this and show let me show you,

554
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Speaker 5: you know, that sort of thing, I don't see that

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Speaker 5: happening for the rest of this season with the way

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Speaker 5: the team is in, sort of the role they're on

557
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Speaker 5: right now. But do I think Luca is eventually capable

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Speaker 5: of scoring more than eighty three in a game? Yes,

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Speaker 5: With the way scoring is in today's NBA, I mean,

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Speaker 5: some of these scores are just preposterous, right, I mean

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Speaker 5: I remember covering the NBA when eighty something to eighty

562
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Speaker 5: something it was like a regular night. And so scoring

563
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Speaker 5: keeps going up, more players get better at three. Luca

564
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Speaker 5: was obviously already fantastic.

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Speaker 8: At the three.

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Speaker 4: You know, could he break that one day? Yeah? I

567
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Speaker 4: can see that, of course, you know.

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Speaker 3: All right, so let's get my MVP guys on the

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Speaker 3: screen real quick. Because Rachel actually has a vote, puts

570
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Speaker 3: a lot of thought. I'm sure she questions herself from

571
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Speaker 3: her family crunches all the numbers.

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Speaker 4: So how does the voting ballago is it? You vote

573
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Speaker 4: for five, you vote, and you rank them.

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Speaker 5: So sometimes a guy who's getting a lot of second

575
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Speaker 5: place votes and if there's a split on first place votes,

576
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Speaker 5: could actually hop up to first because of those second

577
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Speaker 5: place votes. I think the thing that confuses people. I

578
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Speaker 5: want to use last year's race as an example. It

579
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Speaker 5: was really close down to the wire on Shay versus Jokich,

580
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Speaker 5: remember that, And it was really split among people who

581
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Speaker 5: are doing the prognosticating, saying, oh, I think it should

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Speaker 5: be him.

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Speaker 4: I think it should be him. It's so close. It's

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Speaker 4: so close.

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Speaker 5: I was sitting there, as you said, looking at all

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Speaker 5: the numbers, doing all the situations, and it was so close.

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Speaker 5: And the thing that really helped make my decision, and

588
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Speaker 5: I know a lot of my fellow voters helped make

589
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Speaker 5: their decision, was Thunder had the best record in the leak,

590
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Speaker 5: and Shay led them to that. And sometimes winning if

591
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Speaker 5: it certainly it's not always the most important thing, but

592
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Speaker 5: it certainly isn't a tiebreaker, and it's a very important thing.

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Speaker 5: So when the votes actually were tallied, even though it

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Speaker 5: was so close, for a lot of people, and I'm

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Speaker 5: leading to the last second to make my decision.

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Speaker 4: I am picking SGA last year, and.

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Speaker 5: So did so many other people. Okay, it was close

598
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Speaker 5: in people's minds, but the vote was like seventy third

599
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Speaker 5: seventy thirty.

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Speaker 3: So last year SGA played seventy six games. He's on

601
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Speaker 3: pace to play closer to sixty eight injuries this year.

602
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Speaker 3: Injuries does that factor in? By the way, his numbers

603
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 3: are down a little from last year in terms of

604
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Speaker 3: points per game is down, assists is up a tick,

605
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Speaker 3: rebounds are down. Steals her down. So he's not having

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Speaker 3: the great year he had last year.

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Speaker 4: I mean he's playing very well. He's played very well,

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Speaker 4: not as good as people