WEBVTT - It's all about the Madden ratings | Command Center Podcast | Washington Commanders

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here

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<v Speaker 1>with Fred Smoot and Tantanamos. How you guys doing today?

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<v Speaker 2>Doing good? Brother, how about yourself? You're looking good, You're

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<v Speaker 2>looking blessed.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, man, I appreciate it. Thank you for noticing unshaved,

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<v Speaker 1>unkept yat man just walking it off the street out here.

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<v Speaker 2>You're giving off your Jesus aura like you're giving.

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<v Speaker 1>Off of aura of you know what, Caucasian Jesus.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I'm just so content right now. You feel good,

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<v Speaker 3>you look happy.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what came.

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<v Speaker 1>You're hyping me up. Man.

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<v Speaker 4>I disclosed that he's the most curious man on earth.

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<v Speaker 3>You just said, yeah, never drunk an ounce of alcohol

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<v Speaker 3>in his life.

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<v Speaker 1>And Teddy, you were just telling us about your new

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<v Speaker 1>diet speaking of pure high protein, low car Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you've been doing.

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<v Speaker 4>What I've been.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I'm just a lot of cars, you know what

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<v Speaker 5>I'm saying lately. But I've just been also enjoying snacks

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<v Speaker 5>when I want to. So that's not really dyeting when

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<v Speaker 5>you just enjoy snacks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So now I'm gonna take the snacks out of it

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<v Speaker 5>and then boost I mean, boost the protein up a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit more so.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the type that picked up gonna.

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<v Speaker 5>Get me ready for training to Kemp like, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>psychologically I want to add like I'm getting ready for

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<v Speaker 5>the season. You know what, I'm all right, I gotta get

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<v Speaker 5>informed too, you know that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know Old speaking of getting ready for the season

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<v Speaker 1>kind of this this time of year, Madden ratings are out,

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<v Speaker 1>Madden twenty four. How crazy is that?

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<v Speaker 2>We are all?

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<v Speaker 1>I know, we are Old. It's official, We're Old. Madden

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<v Speaker 1>rating twenty four for the twenty four seventh season is out.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. They got the receivers here, Terry McLaurin number eight.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you guys were talking beforehand, very very excited.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you guys excited about that?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, he gets recognition, you know, you know, I just

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<v Speaker 5>feel like Terry's been one of those guys that, no

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<v Speaker 5>matter what he's done, he's not barking every week.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, smooth talked about.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, most of the guys that get recognition, who

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<v Speaker 5>get favored, they the guys that's doing something. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>they got some kind of crazy celebration. They're talking big.

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<v Speaker 4>Time in the media.

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<v Speaker 5>Terry just came in here, as a third round draft

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<v Speaker 5>pick and just showed everybody. Every year, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 5>show you guys that I'm number one on around here,

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<v Speaker 5>and and when you doubt me or questioned me, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>gonna go out there and beat the best cornerback and

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<v Speaker 5>give my team a chance to win, you know, week

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<v Speaker 5>in and week out. So I'm glad he's getting the recognition. Finally,

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<v Speaker 5>I could see him rising up, you know right now

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<v Speaker 5>he's rated what he's eighth right now amongst.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of great receivers out there.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I was about to say, like, let's just

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<v Speaker 1>read the list real quick. We got jeff Justin Jefferson

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<v Speaker 1>at ninety nine, Tyreek Hill ninety eight. A little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of controversy there, but we looked it up. Justin Jefferson

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<v Speaker 1>led the league in receiving last year, led the league

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<v Speaker 1>in reception, so I guess he deserves that. Moniker Davante

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<v Speaker 1>Adams led the league in touchdowns last year ninety seven,

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<v Speaker 1>stef On Diggs ninety six. Cooper Cup you know, injured

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<v Speaker 1>last year but comes in strong with a ninety sixspect right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, won the Triple Crown ye against and then

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<v Speaker 1>Jamar Chase ninety four. DeAndre Hopkins A little surprised by that.

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<v Speaker 4>Honestly, he had an off year last year.

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<v Speaker 1>It was hurt.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was suspended even.

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<v Speaker 5>With jam He was hurt for a little bit last

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<v Speaker 5>year too, So Chase could have easily be up and

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<v Speaker 5>there in ninety I think Chase is ninety eight hands.

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<v Speaker 2>Chase is the only dude that's out of spot here.

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<v Speaker 1>So you Hopkins seven, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Most definitely I would have actually Jamar Chase above Cooper

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<v Speaker 3>Cup and above step Fund no question. Really, Chase is

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<v Speaker 3>the most He's the most complete wire receiver in the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Now why do I.

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<v Speaker 3>Say he's when you want to mix strengts, size, speed,

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<v Speaker 3>route running and hands. And don't forget that he played

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<v Speaker 3>college ball with this with his quarterback, so their relationship

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<v Speaker 3>is insurmountable.

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<v Speaker 2>There.

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<v Speaker 3>He is the one right there. But I'm gonna tell

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<v Speaker 3>you it's two guys that stick out on here. And

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<v Speaker 3>this is why I love these guys, because they got

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<v Speaker 3>the worst quarterbacks out of all these guys, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>DeAndre Hockey and here. But listen, I respect the wide

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<v Speaker 3>receiver that don't need Brett Farb to burn me. I

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<v Speaker 3>respect the wire receiver that says, no matter who my

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<v Speaker 3>quarterback is.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm finna give you the business.

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<v Speaker 1>What about these first three guys though, Justin Jefferson, Kirk Cousins,

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<v Speaker 1>Tyreek Hill, Tua, Yeah, Davanta Adams car who's no longer

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<v Speaker 1>with the team. I mean, that's all three.

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<v Speaker 5>Of those guys could have been ninety nine. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>I just think all those guys, they're the level in

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<v Speaker 5>their game. They didn't need a quarterback to go out

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<v Speaker 5>there and perform, you know, you know I lie. I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm a big fan of Kirk Cousins. I play with him.

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<v Speaker 5>So people get on him about saying that he's not

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<v Speaker 5>what Justin Jefferson needs.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what they talking about, you know what

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<v Speaker 4>I mean? Because I believe when it comes.

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<v Speaker 5>To being precise detail a man, Kirk knows the game

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<v Speaker 5>inside out.

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<v Speaker 4>He's going to get you the ball where you needed at.

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<v Speaker 1>We're getting a little off topic, but I think one

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<v Speaker 1>of the reasons that criticism against Kirk has always love

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<v Speaker 1>it is because of the paycheck. You know, he's made

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of money, Like he's made more money than

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<v Speaker 1>he deserves it. In terms of good quarterback play, he's

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<v Speaker 1>a good quarterback. Man, he's a top ten quarterback, I

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<v Speaker 1>would say.

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't think he's a top ten quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>I can no, he's not a tempt he's not.

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<v Speaker 1>They need ten quarterbacks right now that are better than him.

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<v Speaker 2>Ready you go all right, I'm gonna start it off

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<v Speaker 2>with Aaron Rodgers.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, right now, he's better than right.

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<v Speaker 2>Now to all two I got.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna take that Prescott. You can do all the hate.

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<v Speaker 3>You won't do all the hate.

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<v Speaker 2>You won't. They the same guy. Basically it's black and

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<v Speaker 2>one just white. But they just yeah, not go there.

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<v Speaker 1>They're the same guy you went there by homes Joe Burrow, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Allen, Okay, I'm already.

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<v Speaker 3>Five okay, five, all right, Lamar Jackson, they go six, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>Deshaun Watson, they're gonna sell you.

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<v Speaker 2>Watch it might feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>I got veto power on vetoing that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Next one, all right, I take that down. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>back here.

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<v Speaker 1>What six?

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<v Speaker 4>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even think of anybody true down. Willie kirk

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<v Speaker 1>Cousins is the next one.

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<v Speaker 5>You gotta be in one of those next four? You

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<v Speaker 5>got easy, I don't want to put no want you reaching.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing want to make two thy twenty three, which.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's not reaching.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be a reach.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna tell you what you put your.

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<v Speaker 2>Kirk was your quarter. I like Kirk.

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<v Speaker 1>We've had no he's not about Matthew Stafford. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's so. Now we're at seven eight, Okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>you got two more guys that are better than them

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. Think about divisions, right we got Arizona

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<v Speaker 1>Cayler Murray's hurt right now, but Gino Smith.

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<v Speaker 2>Is better when he's when he heard then Kirk Cousins, let's.

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<v Speaker 5>Go back to Let's just go back to the real

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not being biased at all. It's time when you

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<v Speaker 5>can get by here man hero, when you when.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to sit there.

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<v Speaker 5>As a young I had these conversations before as a younger,

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<v Speaker 5>as a rookie, I saw something in Kurt. I'm like, look, damn,

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<v Speaker 5>I have been running plays the whole year with RG

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<v Speaker 5>and Kirk getting in there the first play he ran

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<v Speaker 5>with me in that same play. Never been putting that

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<v Speaker 5>situation in the game, running in practice a couple of times,

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<v Speaker 5>but not in the game, and hitting me dagger down

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<v Speaker 5>the middle. Of the field seven yard touchdown. That you

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<v Speaker 5>don't do that as a rookie, you understand. So I'm

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<v Speaker 5>just saying, like, when it comes to a quarterback getting

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<v Speaker 5>the guy the ball that's open, he showed me.

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<v Speaker 2>He can do that in the Super Bowl. One drive

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<v Speaker 2>left for that we said, we said, rate him in

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<v Speaker 2>the top team. Drive left in the game. Your money,

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<v Speaker 2>your house money on the line. Are you putting it

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<v Speaker 2>on Kurt?

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<v Speaker 5>If you if you're playing on Kirt team, you better

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<v Speaker 5>you better hope that Kurt gonna leave you down the

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<v Speaker 5>fielding for that touchdown.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess what i'd say to Fred here in

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<v Speaker 1>this situation fields, Fred's being a hater, right, he's being

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<v Speaker 1>a Let's call it what it is. We backed Fred

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<v Speaker 1>into a quarter Just what Fred does, just gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>ignorant stuff until we stop talking about it. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's a top for sure, top fifteen quarterback, fifteen at

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<v Speaker 1>his best and going back and forth with at his best,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a top ten and last year was a really

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<v Speaker 1>good year for him, man, statistically, very good year for him.

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<v Speaker 1>And I get what you're saying, is he ready for

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<v Speaker 1>the big moments. That's what differentiates that top five group

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<v Speaker 1>is they're always ready for the big moment. Everybody else

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<v Speaker 1>is everybody else.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell me this?

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<v Speaker 1>Did he did?

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<v Speaker 5>He not take a bunch of butt whoopings against us

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<v Speaker 5>and brought that team back and beat us against.

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<v Speaker 4>A hell of a defense, not defense was playing.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, you're saying, yeah, last.

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<v Speaker 2>Year, bread Listen he played.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, listen.

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<v Speaker 2>He played for my other team. I am a Minnesota and.

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<v Speaker 4>Him went to the same two teams.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we played. We are brothers. Like when they look

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<v Speaker 2>at us, they're like that we need to start buying

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<v Speaker 2>the U shoes from because they ain't working out. But

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying is I think Kirk is good, good,

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<v Speaker 2>good pro.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>It reminds me of who my quarterback was there, Brian,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean Brian BJ. So at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 3>he gonna he will never be out of game with bj.

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<v Speaker 3>You will never out of game with Kurt.

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<v Speaker 4>So I give you that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I feel like we got to bring the back.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a little sidetracked there. We did Cousins's sorry conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>So Terry mclorr number eight, Yeah, A J. Brown and

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<v Speaker 1>MARII Cooper, uh nine and ten? Are you surprised that

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<v Speaker 1>he's ahead of A. J. Brown Terry McCorry.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not, but I'm I was surprised a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>because but not, but not not a bout that much

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<v Speaker 5>because we had this conversation before, I said, in this division,

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<v Speaker 5>I believe A. J.

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<v Speaker 4>Brown and Terry mcclun could be one A one B.

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<v Speaker 5>So I feel like that nick the nick when it

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<v Speaker 5>comes to you know, the best receivers in the NFC East.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, the one thing that Terry mccloin has the A. J.

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<v Speaker 5>Brown doesn't to me right now in this game is

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<v Speaker 5>he can score from anywhere on the field. Terry, Terry can, Yes,

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<v Speaker 5>don't you ran down to big right now.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a beast man. But he ain't his He he

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<v Speaker 4>ain't his counterpart from college.

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<v Speaker 1>D d.

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<v Speaker 2>K is not Cooper is. I am very shocked.

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<v Speaker 5>But Cooper did it without his without a number one

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<v Speaker 5>quarterbackround Cooper routing everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>Up in their mama.

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<v Speaker 5>So you got to give not I mean, I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 5>Amari to me, has I don't understand how the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 5>let him go.

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<v Speaker 1>You must have like some personality.

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<v Speaker 5>No.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing about Cooper he is, he's.

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<v Speaker 3>The guy this God's God gifted him with skills to

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<v Speaker 3>play a game.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if he loves that game, like he's

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<v Speaker 2>that guy if you look at.

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<v Speaker 4>It, and you know what, I don't know if he

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<v Speaker 4>loves you know what his the mean.

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<v Speaker 5>He's nonchalant, he's not beating his chest, he don't express

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<v Speaker 5>any but he gonna wrote you up and don't give

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<v Speaker 5>your daddy out there, your mama out there. He gonna

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<v Speaker 5>rite him up, and he gonna put up. He gonna

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<v Speaker 5>put up numbers everywhere. He's been three different places. He

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<v Speaker 5>put up numbers and it didn't matter who his quarterback

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<v Speaker 5>was at.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what was that year.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's why I like him, and I don't care

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<v Speaker 5>about where they rank him at because I think last year,

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<v Speaker 5>if you look at that season alone, he was out

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<v Speaker 5>there with a guy who's here and I think highly

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<v Speaker 5>of him as a quarterback.

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<v Speaker 4>But he wanted them put up numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's true. So the other two receivers here

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<v Speaker 1>for the Commanders obviously Curtis Samuel eighty two and then

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<v Speaker 1>Johan Dotson's seventy seven.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah he was young, no, but in terms of production,

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<v Speaker 5>they could have easily gave him eighty something they should

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<v Speaker 5>have gave him eighty at least going to your sophomore year.

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<v Speaker 4>He proved enough going to his sophomore year, he should

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<v Speaker 4>be eighty five. Yeah, eighty five.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you just feel like he should be ahead

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<v Speaker 2>of Curtis saying.

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<v Speaker 5>Man, first of all, First of all, Jahann might might

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<v Speaker 5>be one of the most shops is whide receivers in

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<v Speaker 5>the league.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I'm just I'm gonna put it like, if you.

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<v Speaker 5>Had to put everybody in the line and say run

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<v Speaker 5>every route, Jahan would come out in the yeah and

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<v Speaker 5>catcher your ball.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. So that's why I look at him that way.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not just saying because of what he did a.

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<v Speaker 3>Lot had to do with that injury. Let's just be

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<v Speaker 3>on the hamstring injury. That because he was headed for

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<v Speaker 3>Rookie of the Year.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get it, let's get it. Seriously, he hit it

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<v Speaker 2>for a Rick of the year and then.

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<v Speaker 3>He just came up missing and the other rookies started

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<v Speaker 3>to start to get their lights they shine on and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like they say, the best.

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<v Speaker 2>Ability in this league is availability, and he wasn't available.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think this was this gut him.

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<v Speaker 5>At the seventy seven, right, Yeah, I mean I kind

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<v Speaker 5>of feel like, but if they watched what he did

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<v Speaker 5>later in the season, he to me, he stamped it

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<v Speaker 5>like this this I'm a bad man boom, I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>Ana stamp it that game against the Giants.

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<v Speaker 5>Giants the other game where he ended up beating somebody

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<v Speaker 5>deep and he caught it back shoulder. I wish he

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<v Speaker 5>would have scored on that, but that was either guy

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<v Speaker 5>got him about.

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<v Speaker 4>One hand or something like that. Like he put up

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<v Speaker 4>some games laid in the season that and early in

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<v Speaker 4>the season he caught that game winner from all wins,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's you know, I think he did enough as

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<v Speaker 5>a rookie to say this guy's eighty five right now

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<v Speaker 5>because he might be one of the rawest talents that

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<v Speaker 5>we have at the position.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but so much. That's so I think so much

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<v Speaker 1>that number is like predicated on statistics. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>really think they've got an algorithm. Rhythm. They put everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>stats in and then they say this is an algorithm.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's what I hate by the computer because computer

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<v Speaker 5>miss took me out to get a national championship in college.

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<v Speaker 4>So I hate when you let the computer hand rate Peter.

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<v Speaker 2>I get ready, I has come it's time. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>If y'all watch, it's somebody behind them. Them computers what

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<v Speaker 5>we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't push the button no more. You're just watching that.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you think Curtis is good to Y two

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<v Speaker 1>or do you think that's all too high?

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<v Speaker 2>I think he should be blessed. Yeah, he should feel good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, because he's here.

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<v Speaker 3>Since he's been here, I must say he's been underused,

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<v Speaker 3>all right. So if I'm underused, but they're still showing

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<v Speaker 3>me love, come on, I'm not. I'm literally eighteen points away.

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<v Speaker 2>From one hundred.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I think.

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<v Speaker 5>I think Curtis is still like the eighty two shows

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<v Speaker 5>you that what the league say, we haven't seen the

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<v Speaker 5>best of him yet.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 5>And here because what he was doing in Carolina, like bro,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm waiting and I'm not saying it's on him. It's

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<v Speaker 5>not no indictment to him. The offense has to allow

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<v Speaker 5>him to be that special, and I feel like this

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<v Speaker 5>is the offense for him.

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<v Speaker 1>So see yeah, yeah, sure, Okay, So next position group

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<v Speaker 1>that's out of strong safety Cam Curll obviously kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the best player at that position for this team. Came

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<v Speaker 1>in tenth, was an eighty three percent. How do we

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<v Speaker 1>feel about that?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm a Cam Carol fan, are I think when it

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<v Speaker 5>comes to the season he had last year, I'm okay.

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<v Speaker 4>With eighty three. He was injured early, he was injured

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<v Speaker 4>mid When he was in there, no doubt who he.

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<v Speaker 1>You have the guys that are head of him, be

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<v Speaker 1>any chance?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I know the guys you got. You got Justin Simmons,

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<v Speaker 2>you got the honey Badger.

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<v Speaker 1>All those guys arehead of him them.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm time to proofs ain't in the pudding.

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<v Speaker 3>Like like you said, like his ability, his availability was

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<v Speaker 3>off at the beginning of the year. And think about it,

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<v Speaker 3>if he would have played the whole year, he would

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<v Speaker 3>have been one of the reasons they've been like, oh, their.

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<v Speaker 2>Top five defense and Cam Carroll. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't get that stump because they like, well, he

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<v Speaker 3>didn't play, but so many like I've no lie. I

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<v Speaker 3>know y'all ain't gonna like this. This won't be popular,

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<v Speaker 3>but most people would have gave Defro more proper Ar's performance.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Cameron Carroll.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I saw somewhere that he was rated eighty

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<v Speaker 1>two or something like that, very high rating.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we got yeah, here we go.

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<v Speaker 3>We got Darwin James, who is my guy. Micka fitz

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<v Speaker 3>Patrick's is the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's getting over the hell though, Miss Micko

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<v Speaker 1>fits Patrick.

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<v Speaker 2>Give me some of that sentiment, those cracks smoking out

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<v Speaker 2>of here.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you got Kevin Beard, who is the underrated guy

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<v Speaker 3>from uh Tennessee. Jessein Bates Booda Baker. I love some

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<v Speaker 3>boot Baker.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's right. Don't you think he's a right?

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<v Speaker 1>After looking at it, I think so, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe it's some guys that that you know, you gotta

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<v Speaker 5>just you know, hey, Well, like I say, for us,

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<v Speaker 5>for what Cam has done, he still hasn't had his best.

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<v Speaker 2>Year, you know what I mean, had a year last

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<v Speaker 2>year like a year's year.

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<v Speaker 5>Of I think what also showed with Defro is when

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<v Speaker 5>Cam wasn't there and he was there, you could see

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<v Speaker 5>the communication part. Cam is vital to his game, you

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<v Speaker 5>know what I mean, Like the things that Cam Cam

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<v Speaker 5>put Defro in situations where he made the plays because

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<v Speaker 5>Cam was out there being his safety, being that guy

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<v Speaker 5>that hey, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 4>He was that quarterback that Defro needed.

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<v Speaker 5>We saw Defro in the situation where you know last

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<v Speaker 5>I think it was the last game where he was

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<v Speaker 5>sitting out there and was like, man, how he got

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<v Speaker 5>lost in that coverage, Like he.

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<v Speaker 4>Didn't know wh to cover the guy? You know what

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<v Speaker 4>I mean? So Cam is vital to all those guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think so. And again we've said this before

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<v Speaker 1>on the show, but like, I think his value to

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<v Speaker 1>this team, to this team is higher than it is

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<v Speaker 1>on the league because of that kind of communication understanding,

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<v Speaker 1>putting guys in the right position to be successful.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So those are the rankings that are out that are

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<v Speaker 1>that are relevant to the team right now. Obviously they

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<v Speaker 1>haven't done defensive line rankings out yet, you know, linebackers secondary,

0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:15.639
<v Speaker 1>or they've done secondary, but the line, o line, all

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff not done yet. So of these players, Payne, Allen,

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<v Speaker 1>Chase Tress, who will have the highest Madden rating? Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Wayne Baby, you think he'll be higher than John the Gold.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't toe Listen. He the best puna in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but I don't even know what the average rating

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<v Speaker 1>for a punter.

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<v Speaker 2>If he the best, let's just say it's ninety two.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna say, John, all right, let's just say.

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<v Speaker 3>It's ninety two. All right, So the best Puna is

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<v Speaker 3>ninety two. Tris is ninety too. He's the bist pawn of.

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<v Speaker 5>Hands down the best pun But I'm but im sure

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<v Speaker 5>they're not giving pun is no more than ninety So

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<v Speaker 5>you think what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm sure they didn't put Allen over Pain.

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<v Speaker 4>Because because he's not that. You remember we was playing

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<v Speaker 4>and they had the guy from Florida State.

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<v Speaker 2>Shane leer No.

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<v Speaker 5>Had the big foot man. He can kick almost the

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<v Speaker 5>whole football field. Yeah, Sebastian Jenna Cassi.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I just did.

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<v Speaker 4>I just did all the graph signing with him a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of weeks ago. He was like ninety nine. You

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<v Speaker 4>just knew his foot was just ridiculous. It was like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, not normal.

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<v Speaker 1>So they say suggestion like Justin Tucker might be.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna say it's the run Pain will be the

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<v Speaker 3>highest all rights run.

0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:37.960
<v Speaker 2>We will be the highest because he coming off the

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<v Speaker 2>year of the boat, says.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna say Alan, then most of the end of

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<v Speaker 3>these guys, he just got the big hot contract.

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<v Speaker 2>They usually light you up mostly awful.

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<v Speaker 5>How consistent have you been so paining? That was his

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<v Speaker 5>best year last year. They're gonna put two seasons together

0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:55.560
<v Speaker 5>and then rate you. So you said that it's an algorithm.

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<v Speaker 5>So if you look at what Alan did the year before,

0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:00.919
<v Speaker 5>then last year came back and still was the pro bowler,

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<v Speaker 5>Allan should easily not say that Pain of no deserve.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he should easily top those guys you know rated.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that applies more to kind of like the

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<v Speaker 1>all Star stuff, like the preseason voting. But I think

0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:18.000
<v Speaker 1>the tennis point, it is kind of like a two

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<v Speaker 1>season connection there, so I would agree. I think Alan's

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<v Speaker 1>probably going to be higher. I think Pain's probably in

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<v Speaker 1>the high eighties, high eighties, early ninety one, something like I.

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<v Speaker 5>Would want him at ninety. I would want him at

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<v Speaker 5>ninety from what he showed that he was. He was

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<v Speaker 5>our best in line in last year.

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<v Speaker 2>My boy Sweet should be an eighty seven at least. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I agree it should be eighty.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't give him any love, do we.

0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:46.600
<v Speaker 2>No, nobody loves my sweet like he feels like I feel.

0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:49.040
<v Speaker 5>Sweat is like the other guy sweats like that twin

0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:51.760
<v Speaker 5>brother that doesn't have all the juice. The other twin

0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:53.919
<v Speaker 5>has no honestly, you know how it's always a one

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<v Speaker 5>twin missing something.

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<v Speaker 4>But he ended up being the smartest. He ended up

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<v Speaker 4>being the one that gets paid the most, you know

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<v Speaker 4>what I mean? So what's one of those guys. He's

0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:02.679
<v Speaker 4>still in a good spot man.

0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:04.439
<v Speaker 1>You know, he plays big for you see a top

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<v Speaker 1>ten that rusher, I think so, yeah, think about it though,

0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:09.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's some really good He's a.

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<v Speaker 2>Top ten edge Russian that gets outshadowed on his own team.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, by Chase name.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody like Chase is a name.

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<v Speaker 3>When you say the name Chase Young, he carries more

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<v Speaker 3>than Montell Swift.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, even though Monte with this big you know training,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, what's the nake come by for?

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<v Speaker 3>You know all this, It's just that the name of

0:20:30.040 --> 0:20:32.440
<v Speaker 3>Chase Young comes behind Joey Bosa and the rest of

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<v Speaker 3>the Bosas in this this, this this factory that Ohio

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<v Speaker 3>State got going on.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think he's just had one.

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<v Speaker 3>Day, gonna continue to get better and better and better.

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<v Speaker 3>And when we look up one year, Monte is gonna

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<v Speaker 3>have his best year and it's gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably be a year nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he got like nineteen sacks.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, he's all thinking be hiats player, hopefully low nineties.

0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:57.199
<v Speaker 1>But chase with chasing at ranked you think if you had,

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<v Speaker 1>if you.

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<v Speaker 5>Had to guess, I would look at what eight eighty

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<v Speaker 5>three somewhere like eighty three. I think he's an eighty

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<v Speaker 5>three just off of his name alone, what he did

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<v Speaker 5>his rookie season. People still have that in the back

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<v Speaker 5>of their heads, like, look, this guy, this guy's if

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<v Speaker 5>he crank up, he's in real form.

0:21:13.640 --> 0:21:15.360
<v Speaker 4>We can get that out of him this year at least,

0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:15.520
<v Speaker 4>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, Okay, So now we've got a whole

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<v Speaker 1>bnch of new kind of kind of budding talents on

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<v Speaker 1>the roster. Okay, We've gotten uh, Sam Howe, We've got

0:21:24.720 --> 0:21:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Emmanuel Forbes, We've got Jamie Davis, we got Logan Thomas. Right,

0:21:29.320 --> 0:21:31.000
<v Speaker 1>So Logan Thomas not a budding talent, but a guy

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<v Speaker 1>coming off of an injury, that kind of thing. What

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<v Speaker 1>should ratings for guys like that be? Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>Sam How I'm gonna start with Sam how What's what's Sam?

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<v Speaker 5>You?

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<v Speaker 3>Alright, we know they're gonna bless it. They're gonna bless him.

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<v Speaker 3>You think no, when I say blessing.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not in a bad way.

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<v Speaker 3>In a bad way, I guess I'm talking about they

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<v Speaker 3>probably go Salem every bit of seventy s.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's that's giving him.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, I get it, I get it.

0:21:59.280 --> 0:22:02.280
<v Speaker 2>But he gonna have to earn every point that he gets.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so yeah, I think he's gonna be in the

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<v Speaker 3>seventies starting off, really, and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean obviously they change the matter ratings now so he

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<v Speaker 1>can grow as the season goes. Yes, yes, yes to me.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the most interesting ones is Jamion Davis. I

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<v Speaker 1>think because Jamion Davis is a guy that played better

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<v Speaker 1>as the season one on last year. The more he's played,

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<v Speaker 1>the better he's gotten. I don't think he's gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of love in terms of ranking to start

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<v Speaker 1>the season, but a guy that, again I think could grow.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Jamie's selfers from what I call regular name idis.

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<v Speaker 3>You know in football, if your name regularly, you get love.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. You know your name is regularly.

0:22:43.440 --> 0:22:44.600
<v Speaker 1>It's certainly not Fred Smooth.

0:22:45.200 --> 0:22:47.959
<v Speaker 3>So you know some people have names they stick out,

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<v Speaker 3>the mouth sticks out. He just pokes it in the

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<v Speaker 3>face and then I come out and be like yeah,

0:22:52.720 --> 0:22:55.879
<v Speaker 3>ray Lewis and him Jamond Davis, like in just a

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<v Speaker 3>regular name.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's gonna have to outplay his name sake.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, let me see this, okay for sure. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So what is his ranking for this season? Eighty eighty

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<v Speaker 1>eighty in the eighties. Yeah, in the eighties. I feeling

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<v Speaker 1>like seventy nine. For some reason, he's just gonna you know, because.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel what you're saying, because the league they respect.

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<v Speaker 1>I think because it was four games, you're like, okay,

0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:20.720
<v Speaker 1>there's that guy.

0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:21.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But other than that, it's been a growing process for him.

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<v Speaker 5>He showed that no, that wasn't meant for me, like

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<v Speaker 5>he was solid, and then we lost our middle lineback

0:23:29.320 --> 0:23:32.080
<v Speaker 5>and he had to kind of conduct things that probably

0:23:32.200 --> 0:23:34.400
<v Speaker 5>wasn't in his you know, his repertoire. But he's still

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<v Speaker 5>handled his business, you know what I'm saying. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I'm alright in the eighties, I think in

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<v Speaker 5>the eighties.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, I buy that. We'll be Logan Thomas.

0:23:41.119 --> 0:23:43.040
<v Speaker 1>I think he's I think we've talked about this on

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<v Speaker 1>the show a ton. I think he's poised for a

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<v Speaker 1>huge year, but injuries, I'm.

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<v Speaker 5>Not sure if they're looking at him as one of

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<v Speaker 5>the good great like one of the best tight ends.

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<v Speaker 5>They'll probably give him seventy they'll probably give himself seventy

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<v Speaker 5>seventy nine. Such a I'm a fan of Logan Tom.

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<v Speaker 5>I think at his best physically, he could be one

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<v Speaker 5>of the top seven ish tight ends in the game.

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<v Speaker 5>Ye I didn't want to go to and say five,

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<v Speaker 5>but I feel like that.

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<v Speaker 4>One year where he got his money.

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<v Speaker 1>He was easy like top five, you know tenn I

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<v Speaker 1>agree he's in that kind of range.

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<v Speaker 5>So the potential is there if we get that Logan

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<v Speaker 5>Thomas back this year, which I believe we do because

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<v Speaker 5>you know, you know, we all played this game and

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<v Speaker 5>one of the one of the things.

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<v Speaker 4>To go through is the toughest thing to go through

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<v Speaker 4>is an injury.

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<v Speaker 5>And not only the part of getting back, it's the

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<v Speaker 5>part of when you got back and people looking at

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<v Speaker 5>you as like if you ain't that guy no more

0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:41.040
<v Speaker 5>because of the production or the opportunities, wasn't there. So

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<v Speaker 5>I think he went through that last year and this

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<v Speaker 5>offseason is probably one of those wake up like, look

0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:46.520
<v Speaker 5>they finna feel me.

0:24:46.640 --> 0:24:48.159
<v Speaker 4>You know, I know I went through that.

0:24:48.240 --> 0:24:52.400
<v Speaker 5>I remember, and mine's happened very early. I remember going

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<v Speaker 5>home that offseason after my first year being a rookie

0:24:54.800 --> 0:24:56.919
<v Speaker 5>and like, man, they ain't seen nothing yet, Like they

0:24:57.520 --> 0:25:00.280
<v Speaker 5>looking at me as just you know, mid, I'm mid Now,

0:25:00.440 --> 0:25:01.120
<v Speaker 5>you know, I'm Finn.

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<v Speaker 4>Show these guys that I'm top green, I'm I'm that

0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:06.320
<v Speaker 4>cush when it comes to what we're talking about.

0:25:06.800 --> 0:25:11.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm the top of the line, the red half. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>great when it comes to what I'm what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 4>So, you know, and I remember how my off season was.

0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:19.560
<v Speaker 5>I went out there, it was it was it was

0:25:19.640 --> 0:25:22.280
<v Speaker 5>before the Super Bowl even having and guys like you're

0:25:22.280 --> 0:25:24.080
<v Speaker 5>working out already, Yeah, because I got to come with it,

0:25:24.160 --> 0:25:25.640
<v Speaker 5>you know what I mean. So I believe Logan had

0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:28.399
<v Speaker 5>one of those wake up calls last year because he

0:25:28.560 --> 0:25:30.080
<v Speaker 5>was back and he really wasn't himself.

0:25:30.240 --> 0:25:32.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he wanted to show everybody this year that I'm

0:25:32.320 --> 0:25:32.880
<v Speaker 4>Logan talking.

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<v Speaker 2>He'll be back.

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<v Speaker 1>Deserve that check, Yeah, especially because he had a great offseason.

0:25:36.200 --> 0:25:38.760
<v Speaker 1>I think, yassah. So Emanuel Forbes, he's a rookie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, go no respect, He's what we got seventy five.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you can't put them over Jahan, right, No, I'm like.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying seventy five.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe, Yeah, they might give him a sixty nine seventy.

0:25:51.000 --> 0:25:52.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm just saying.

0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:54.000
<v Speaker 1>You know how they do rookies, you know what I'm saying.

0:25:54.160 --> 0:25:56.879
<v Speaker 3>And then him being one hundred and seventy pounds, they

0:25:57.040 --> 0:25:59.240
<v Speaker 3>show ain't finna give him like his strength throw there

0:25:59.240 --> 0:25:59.879
<v Speaker 3>will probably be like.

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<v Speaker 2>Three. They're gonna give him no long like I know

0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:05.840
<v Speaker 2>because I'm.

0:26:06.119 --> 0:26:07.480
<v Speaker 4>I am him him.

0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Were you in Madden?

0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Were you before Madden?

0:26:10.400 --> 0:26:11.720
<v Speaker 2>Do you think I'm mad A Long?

0:26:12.200 --> 0:26:12.760
<v Speaker 1>You're old though?

0:26:12.920 --> 0:26:12.960
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:26:13.440 --> 0:26:16.440
<v Speaker 4>Come on, man, he was. He was. He was John

0:26:16.600 --> 0:26:17.560
<v Speaker 4>Lway football.

0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:21.520
<v Speaker 2>Were no Tech mobile we was, Yeah, he was.

0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, man was what ninety ninety nine?

0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:25.959
<v Speaker 3>You're in there?

0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:26.920
<v Speaker 2>We was O one.

0:26:27.040 --> 0:26:29.160
<v Speaker 1>We came out of one all pixelated and weird.

0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:31.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you couldn't even look at my face. But A

0:26:31.280 --> 0:26:32.800
<v Speaker 2>Long with that scene, that name on the back of

0:26:32.800 --> 0:26:33.600
<v Speaker 2>the jersey. We were good.

0:26:33.960 --> 0:26:35.399
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't being in the game for the first time.

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<v Speaker 2>It was crazy.

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:37.840
<v Speaker 4>It was cool, but you got to think about it.

0:26:37.920 --> 0:26:40.840
<v Speaker 4>We was in college on. We was in college football game.

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<v Speaker 4>We was on the college was on game breaker was

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<v Speaker 4>a you know that was our college.

0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:47.800
<v Speaker 1>It was because they it was before they switched it out,

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<v Speaker 1>but but Madden was always but they didn't have the

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<v Speaker 1>name though.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you hear us have the name?

0:26:52.000 --> 0:26:55.760
<v Speaker 5>No, we didn't have it, but you knew knew number

0:26:55.880 --> 0:26:58.320
<v Speaker 5>six one on outside and you knew when he line

0:26:58.359 --> 0:26:59.920
<v Speaker 5>backing the port return who that was.

0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:02.399
<v Speaker 4>I mean, that was great. I mean, but Madden was

0:27:02.520 --> 0:27:04.960
<v Speaker 4>like the ultimate, like that's you, you know what I mean?

0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:06.240
<v Speaker 4>And I didn't play the game.

0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:09.880
<v Speaker 5>I would literally play the game one time with myself

0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:11.159
<v Speaker 5>just to say I did it.

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:13.240
<v Speaker 4>But other than that, I wasn't Madden day did you

0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:14.280
<v Speaker 4>every day?

0:27:14.359 --> 0:27:14.680
<v Speaker 1>Look at it?

0:27:16.680 --> 0:27:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Great point of your from the video game?

0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:22.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I saw. I was gonna ask you what

0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:24.040
<v Speaker 1>your highest Madden rating was, but I screwed up the

0:27:24.080 --> 0:27:26.040
<v Speaker 1>script and I printed them on all the scripts, so

0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:28.400
<v Speaker 1>you can't guess. But Tannel, what was your highest mad rating?

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<v Speaker 4>What the script says ninety two?

0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:35.080
<v Speaker 1>It should be blank. So I'm sorry, No, it's cool.

0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:37.040
<v Speaker 5>It's cool because like I you know, I shared before.

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<v Speaker 5>I wasn't big on finding out my rating, you know

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:42.600
<v Speaker 5>what I mean? Like, I look, I'm one of my

0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:45.600
<v Speaker 5>worst critics. I know what I did the season before

0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:47.000
<v Speaker 5>or didn't do, you know.

0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:49.479
<v Speaker 1>So just going two thousand and seven was the year

0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:50.280
<v Speaker 1>you got the ninety two.

0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:53.000
<v Speaker 5>And that's crazy because six I didn't have a great year,

0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:54.720
<v Speaker 5>But you know what I'm saying, So for me to

0:27:54.760 --> 0:27:56.640
<v Speaker 5>get there for two thousand and seven, I'm like, wow,

0:27:56.680 --> 0:27:59.280
<v Speaker 5>that's great. Oh five was my best year here, and

0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 5>then when I was a jet O, three was my

0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:03.840
<v Speaker 5>best year. So you know, it was always one of

0:28:03.880 --> 0:28:06.440
<v Speaker 5>those up and down things. But the one thing, that

0:28:06.720 --> 0:28:08.600
<v Speaker 5>one thing that I that mattered the most of me

0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:12.119
<v Speaker 5>when it came to rating me was my speed. I

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<v Speaker 5>wanted to make sure that I had ninety plus. It

0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 5>didn't have to be ninety nine. I wanted to make

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 5>sure it was in the nineties all the time because

0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:21.159
<v Speaker 5>I felt like that was valuable to me. Like if

0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:22.760
<v Speaker 5>I could line up there and be ninety something speed,

0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:24.080
<v Speaker 5>it didn't matter what my ratings was.

0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:26.240
<v Speaker 4>You raising me on blocking and everything.

0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:28.200
<v Speaker 5>Else, which I was ahead of a blocker for to

0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:31.000
<v Speaker 5>be a five nine, to have receiver and one hundred

0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:31.719
<v Speaker 5>and ninety pounds.

0:28:32.080 --> 0:28:33.919
<v Speaker 4>But I wanted to make sure I flyped by.

0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:36.440
<v Speaker 5>I flew by everybody and they normally had my speed

0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:38.360
<v Speaker 5>up in the nineties right speeding out.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think this is two thousand and nine. Can't

0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:42.160
<v Speaker 2>be my best one.

0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:46.360
<v Speaker 3>I was headed after lead at the time eighty four. No,

0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:48.800
<v Speaker 3>my highest one was probably when I was going the

0:28:48.920 --> 0:28:49.960
<v Speaker 3>year at the Vikings.

0:28:51.160 --> 0:28:51.960
<v Speaker 4>Just got paid.

0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:56.040
<v Speaker 2>Most definitely the ninety.

0:28:56.280 --> 0:28:57.280
<v Speaker 1>You think my research is wrong.

0:28:57.320 --> 0:29:05.080
<v Speaker 2>Your research research come to me. It's a conspiracy.

0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:09.960
<v Speaker 1>About I mean, that's what it said.

0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:12.880
<v Speaker 2>That's come back completely rocked.

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:17.160
<v Speaker 4>And you said something about Logan at Hill like when

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:19.000
<v Speaker 4>you bring up your they always know.

0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:21.080
<v Speaker 2>Right about him.

0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:21.280
<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not even say what my record was because

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:26.240
<v Speaker 1>it was seventy. You know, I barely was in the game.

0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:29.120
<v Speaker 4>He Logan, you was a hell of a blocking tya.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna tell you. I was very impressed with what

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<v Speaker 4>you can do.

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<v Speaker 5>I told you often I thought that we should have

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<v Speaker 5>just changed you to a tackle because you probably topped

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<v Speaker 5>down tackles when it.

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<v Speaker 4>Came to blocking.

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<v Speaker 2>So hey, first of all, I threw the ball at

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<v Speaker 2>you allotted, man.

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<v Speaker 1>So appreciated.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>So now our last segment, it's called Farmer Fred, Okay Tanner.

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<v Speaker 1>You know Fred talks about being an outdoorsy guy. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I like to go Cassie and farmer

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<v Speaker 1>Vegetable so we're gonna see if you're ready. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>you just took my pain I did. I took your paper,

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<v Speaker 1>all right? Okay? Ready? Yeah? So first question, what is

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<v Speaker 1>the difference between English and Western saddle? It's the you

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know this, is it not?

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<v Speaker 3>It's the hole right there the horn on it because

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<v Speaker 3>the Olympus use English English, and it's without the horn right.

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<v Speaker 3>The Western ears with the horns. So when I get

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<v Speaker 3>on my horse, I grabbed the lug right there and

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<v Speaker 3>kicking in the lee.

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<v Speaker 2>Out of him.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, so that is one difference.

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<v Speaker 4>Also, he knows because I'm like this, dude, non.

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<v Speaker 1>English saddle, you sit a little higher in the saddle

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<v Speaker 1>right like in the Western you're like sitting on the

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<v Speaker 1>horse right right. So hey, I wasn't. I'm impressed that boy.

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<v Speaker 2>He knows it all allright.

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<v Speaker 1>Round two? What is braggis?

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<v Speaker 2>Bregas is a type of cattle. Oh my gosh, ain't

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<v Speaker 2>it's the beef cattle.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a type of beef cattle mixed in angus

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<v Speaker 1>and brahma branis. Yeah. I am in Tanna.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you know? I thought that was a learning school

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<v Speaker 4>right now where you learned this from you know living.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, this one's tough if you get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's a miracle. What are three of the

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<v Speaker 1>five major crops from West Virginia?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, from West Virginia. You got corn?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh is it a week? Because it is mounting. It

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<v Speaker 2>is mountain in Lowlands.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give it to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, hey, you take the mountain in Lowland. So you

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<v Speaker 2>got Hey, so you got corn mountain.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, hey, this The.

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<v Speaker 1>Other ones are kind of weird, like my last it's.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the One of them is your friend, your

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<v Speaker 4>favorite friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Friend usually like this. Yeah, tobacco, tobacco.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, because because Virginia.

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<v Speaker 1>Then that was a tough one. The other one is apples,

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<v Speaker 1>random and so apples.

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<v Speaker 2>Most of the apples come from wind Chester.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's in Virginia.

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<v Speaker 2>Winchester, Virginia.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I'm saying soybeans. A little surprised by soybeans.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of grow everywhere. Beans grow there because of the code.

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<v Speaker 2>It's in the ground. It's in the ground, cleans the wall.

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<v Speaker 4>I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. Fred learning all sorts of stuff. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know if I can read this question.

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<v Speaker 1>Name two of six major types of grass, feed blue,

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<v Speaker 1>right to nails, a couple of yeah blue rye, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I don't even know what this is. He fixes bermuda,

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<v Speaker 1>grass and tail. All right, Fred knocked it out of

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<v Speaker 1>the part. I think the conclusion is Fred is a farmer.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I thought for sure. I thought for sure

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<v Speaker 1>the bragus would get you, and I thought that get you.

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<v Speaker 3>Heydu he mann, nowitch, I'm impressed, Fred, I'm impressed.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, you know what, man it come up with the.

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