WEBVTT - Bomani Jones Talks Tom Brady, Kyrie Irving Trade, Lebron's GOAT Status, Game Theory + More 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:04.560 Wait that ass up in the morning Breakfast club morning. 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:07.920 Everybody is tj Envy Charlemagne the guy. We are the 0:00:07.920 --> 0:00:10.520 breakfast club. We got a special guests in the building. Yes, indeed, 0:00:10.680 --> 0:00:13.000 Monty Jones, welcome back. While you get that seat and 0:00:13.000 --> 0:00:14.720 I got to sit over here and this joint you know, 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:17.840 y'all y'all are throned out. Y'all are really minimizing your 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:22.159 guests with this whole strategy. How does that work? We 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:24.520 have multiple guests, like and so who gets the throne? 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:26.280 Sound like y'all just need a whole bunch of thrones. 0:00:26.440 --> 0:00:28.560 Like I've seen this like Kylie Coward he said that 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:30.280 set up, but his desk was up here and his 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:33.199 guests would be sitting down there. Lebron always sitting in 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:35.519 the high chair on the shop. Everybody else sitting on 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:38.840 the ground. I see what this is. Well, Charlemagne, bout 0:00:38.800 --> 0:00:41.600 the thrones? Okay? Were about the thrones? I thought because 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:42.960 he was short, he wanted to be a little highest 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:44.720 is the reason I thought. But you just never know. 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:46.080 I just like to set up. I like how it 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:49.600 looks to a camera. But welcome brother, even to a 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:53.080 game theory? Man, Yeah, man, how are you feeling. Hey man, we're, 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:56.200 you know, out here on the stroll selling these ways 0:00:56.280 --> 0:00:58.160 for everybody, anybody that wants me to walk to stroll 0:00:58.200 --> 0:00:59.960 to look pretty. That's the end of like the trickiest 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:01.600 part of it. But doing the show itself, Man, it's 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:03.560 been great like this. I mean, this is the thing 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:05.360 that I always wanted to do, and now we get 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:06.640 to do it, and we get to keep doing it. 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:08.479 At least we get to keep doing it through this season. 0:01:08.480 --> 0:01:10.280 I don't get to make decisions past that. But we 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:11.960 got a lot to talk about today. So let's jump 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:14.520 right into Super Bowl this weekend. Who you got and why? 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:17.080 All right? I'm going with the Chiefs. And I don't 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:18.560 know if the Chiefs are the better team, but I 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:21.320 just can't pick against my homes. Man. How's his leg though? 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:23.080 How's his foot? I mean, he got two of them, 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:24.679 you know what I'm saying. Like one of them might 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:26.120 not be as good as the other one was, but 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:28.360 he got to like and I made this mistake the 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:30.080 last time they had the Super Bowl, Like, I'm not 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:32.440 picking them because they had my homes because that got 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:34.240 me in trouble when they lost to the Bucks. But 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:36.720 I can't pick against him. Well, then that Super Bowl 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:38.720 you probably could have after of who they were playing, well, 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:41.039 Tom Brady. It wasn't about Tom Brady. It's when I 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:42.800 turned the TV yall and saw they had all them 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:45.200 back up offensive linement, and immediately I was like, I'm 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:47.720 gonna be wrong on television the ball Like sometimes you 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:49.360 just look up. The game doesn't have to go. I 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:51.720 just saw to du that left tackle who got Cam Newton. 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:54.200 Damn they're killed in that Super Bowl. I was just like, up, 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:56.840 sometimes you're wrong. Yeah. Now you did say, Tom Brady, 0:01:56.840 --> 0:02:00.320 what are your thoughts on Brady finally retiring? Dude forty 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:02.960 six years old? Like, I don't even understand what the delivery. 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:05.960 He's still competing, He's still competing, But some of the 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:08.120 dudes that are hitting him into kidneys like this, this 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:10.399 is just me personally. I would imagine at that age, 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:12.320 I am forty two, and I know how much you 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:15.239 can hurt just working out, just waking up. Yeah, yeah, 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:18.360 this dude's out here get getting buy out by everybody, 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:19.600 and it's like, yeah, you know, I think I might 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:22.000 want to do that, na na na nah. So I 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:23.959 am amazed that he pulled it off for as long 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:26.000 as he did. And I am glad that he walked 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:28.240 away before it got to be terribly embarrassing because he 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:30.040 was gonna be out here next year. It was gonna 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:33.000 be depressing for all of us think oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:34.680 what if he don't went to San Francisco or something. 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:38.320 It's still been looking depressing. Man. Everybody gets old. Like 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:39.799 I know, he got out as a stretching and his 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:41.880 strawberry ice cream and everything else. But in the end, 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:43.400 I mean, he can't eat strawberries. That's his thing. He 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:46.079 does not eat strawberries. Everybody gets old. And I think 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:48.840 Cass like him and Lebron have fooled us into thinking 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:51.520 that you can live forever. Nope, everybody that's thought they 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:54.320 could go forever, it's gone one day too long. And 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:56.200 me to sit there and cry, well, we never we 0:02:56.240 --> 0:02:58.040 had We really never saw Brady have a decline. I 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:01.040 just don't think he had the team around him this year. Yeah, 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:02.679 And that's why it's good to get out ahead of 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:05.480 that clime. It's coming, like no matter who you are, 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:09.240 it's coming. Now. You mentioned Lebron, is Lebron the goat. 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:10.960 Now he's about to pass the record in the next school. 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:13.320 A couple of days, the conversation is coming back. No, 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:16.640 why no, because there's a dude named Jordan. I agree, 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:19.079 that's what I mean. That's that's no insult to Lebron. 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:21.000 But like I remember, at one point, it's like fifteen 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:23.000 years ago and I was doing radio and I would say, 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:24.840 Lebron James is the best player I ever saw, and 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:26.960 I had this whole clinical argument, like he does this 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:28.480 better than Mike, he does this better than Mike, he 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:29.880 does this better than Mike, and I could go through 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:31.400 all of that, and then you go to YouTube and 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:34.120 you're like, what was I talking about, Like none of 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:37.480 this matters. There was that dude, and then there's everybody else, 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:39.480 like the last dance, which was so funny because it 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:41.400 was so clear that Mike looked around and was like, 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:43.920 these kids just think I'm about some shoes. I need 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:46.360 to show them who they are. And then I watched it. 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:48.360 It was like, YO, great idea, Mike, because I don't 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:50.400 see how they could watch this and think anything other 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:53.160 than there's never been anything like this before. No insult 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:55.960 to Lebron, you know. But I also think that part 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:57.960 of the scoring record of what's important to him is 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:00.920 he's still making that case, right, I have a case 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:03.800 against Jordan, assist and scoring everybody. I'm just here to 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:05.720 tell you, I don't think you have a cay. It's 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:09.119 cool to be yourself, right. You just gotta realize you're 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:11.040 not gonna convince us like the people who you have 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:14.280 not convinced it's over. That decision has been made. The 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:16.960 ones that know you cool, they're gonna ride with you, 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:19.880 and they're gonna decide this is your program. Everybody else. Now, 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:22.200 we made our call. I don't have bron over Kobe, 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:24.480 and I think it's wild. See I think that's crazy. 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:27.400 I'll tell you why. We always think Kobe is the 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:29.840 closest thing to Jordan, right, and people don't want to 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:31.240 give it to Cobe. That's steven Na Smith say. I 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:32.680 don't want to give it the Kobe because all he 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:34.360 did with mimic Jordan. You know how good you gotta 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:36.080 be the mimic Mine don't know. I give him credit, 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:39.400 But that's like saying that Shane is better than somebody 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:43.039 because he's the closest thing to Biggie. Now, great, Kobe's 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:45.960 a lot better than Sean was as a rapper, But 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:49.040 it's just like he reminds me of isn't quite enough. 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:51.120 Lebron got too many victories. Like I know Kobe has 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:54.120 the championships, but that run basically from twenty ten to 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:56.400 twenty nineteen or twenty eighteen, when he's going to the 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:59.279 finals every year and the only thing that's constant is Lebron. James, 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:00.960 y'all only do that with Braun When it comes to 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:02.560 the Buffalo Bills, nobody said the Bills one of the 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:04.360 greatest football teams of all time. They went to the 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:05.920 Super Bowl four times, but they didn't go to Super 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:09.080 Bowl eight times, and they didn't win the four right, right, 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:11.159 But they didn't. But if they had won a couple 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:12.680 of long the way we could talk about Like I'm 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:15.359 an Atlanta Braves fan, right, I don't say they're the 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:17.599 greatest baseball run of it just because they had fifteen 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:23.680 straight division championships or anything else, but Lebron being the 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:27.000 constant between two franchises and a whole bunch of different 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:30.200 ways to get this done. Nah, man, you can't. There's 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:32.280 no shade as you can throw on what he I'm 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:34.440 not throwing shade. I'm just saying he's the person that we, 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:36.640 for whatever reason, we make a concession too when it 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:39.240 comes to not winning. That's fair. And when Kobe was 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:41.919 missing the playoffs and out here the last four years 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:46.640 looking you know, beat down and everything, stay passed problem, 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:48.440 that's right, but you cut them slack for it, Like, 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:50.559 that's the thing about it. We cut Kobe a lot 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:53.080 of slack. He was hurt. I think the one thing 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:57.039 that Braun doesn't have that Kobe has that Jordan has 0:05:57.240 --> 0:06:00.560 is the will to win. There was just something different 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:02.880 about Jordan when he was on the court in those 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:05.520 final minutes. You knew he wasn't gonna lose this game. 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:07.760 The same thing with Kobe. Brun not so much. See, 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:11.160 I disagree. I think Kobe had the will to take 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:13.760 shots every time. Like when we talk about the mama 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:16.440 mentality stuff like it's it's been long enough now that 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:18.320 we can have an honest reassessment of Kobe. And so 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:20.400 the thing for me about that is every time you 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:22.520 hear about Kobe and the drive and the passion and 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:25.599 everything else, it's all about one man. Kobe's thing is 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:27.960 I am going to get myself all the way right, 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:29.640 and if the rest of y'all do it, we're gonna 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:32.880 be cool. Right. What made Braun different than Kobe was 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:35.480 I can take Braun out here with four dudes that 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:37.599 we get off a fifth avenue, and he'll be like 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:39.720 Buddy from the sand Life. If you go stand over 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:42.120 there and hold your glove up and just stand right there, 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:44.479 the ball's gonna come to you. That's what Lebron's got, 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:46.520 what Kobe's guy is. Man. If y'allould just give me 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:48.800 the ball and just let me get these buckets, this 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:50.920 will be our best chance. I don't see that as 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:52.800 the will to win. I see that as the will 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:55.600 to be the person who does the thing. Jordan was 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:59.120 like that, Jordan. I think part of that's the North 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:00.880 Carolina thing, where now then you had to get a 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:02.840 ball to somebody else and then go figure it out. 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:05.560 But Jordan had a better understanding the team dynamics. They look, man, 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:07.560 I'm not an only child, but I grew up kind 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:10.680 of as an only child playing basketball in a driveway. 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:14.560 That's Kobe. Kobe got a driveway game, right. He got 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:17.040 all by himself, moves all that stuff. When you imagine 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:18.800 you ain't got to think about nobody else. He's shoot 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:21.160 doing crazy fall aways. And everything else because you're playing 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:23.440 in the driveway by yourself and then he gets out 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:25.280 with other people. And that was the whole thing with Kobe. 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:27.680 The whole way was like figuring out how to interact 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:29.600 with other people. It was a human thing. But I 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:31.520 also think it was a basketball thing. And I go 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:34.080 with Lebron for that reason. Over that, like when Lebron 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:36.320 had that squad and No. Seven, Kobe can't get that 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:38.240 team to the finals in the East or either way, 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:40.680 because that's not how Kobe gets down. Lebron out here, 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:42.760 got Jeff McKennis out here looking like something that he 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:49.720 never could be. Yeah, now, Kyrie, Irvy, that was just mean, 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:51.520 that's what I do. Now he just got traded to 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:54.080 the Mavericks. What's your thoughts on on Kyrie? Does that 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:56.040 make that team better, worse or it doesn't matter. I 0:07:56.080 --> 0:08:00.440 have no idea, and I don't think anybody. I don't 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:04.680 think anybody has no no. But he's another dude that's 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:07.200 in a similar place where his individual game is just 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:10.160 so incredible, like saying, he's the best ball handler that 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:15.160 I've ever seen, not even close, right, But how many 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:18.080 games he gonna play? He got all kinds to not 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:19.760 show up, not coming to work. Now he's dealing with 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:21.440 a dude who's not accustomed to give him the ball 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:24.120 to anybody else. Neither one of them plays especially well 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:28.080 off the ball, But I don't But with the nets, 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:29.720 I don't feel like they got better either. Like this 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:31.160 is the rare time I look at the trade and 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:33.559 be like, oh, everybody wanted to do words. Huh. Ain't 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:35.600 that so? Because I told Kyrie he was like, you know, 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:37.600 the word was out that he might sit for the 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:39.360 rest of the year if he doesn't get traded. Yeah, 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:42.280 I bet you want that Max deal. You're gonna get 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:44.040 out here and play because that's all you can do 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:47.280 to get this money. That the worst, I should say, 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:50.400 the worst let down to NBA history ever. James Harden, ever, 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:54.000 Durant ever, Kyrie ever ever doesn't make any sense. First 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:56.040 of all, they played like a game and a half together, 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:59.480 like in some total. But no, ever, I can't think 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:01.520 of anything. Remember how we thought about that year the 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:04.920 Lakers got Gary Payton and Carl Malone and they were old, 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:06.960 and we thought it was a let down When they 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:11.719 went to the finals. These dudes won a series, one 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:15.720 single solitary series and I'm just waiting to figure out 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:18.000 when they're gonna trade Kevin Durant. But what do you do? 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:19.520 What do you do with Kevin Durant? You to Brooklyn 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:21.160 nets And if you are Kevin Durant, what do you 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:25.440 want to go? Well, I can't go where it's the 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:28.960 best place for me to Wars she had never left. 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:32.560 I don't blame them for leaving, like I didn't blame 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:35.040 Kyrie for leaving Cleveland, the same way I didn't blame 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:37.400 Durant for leaving Goldstake. I didn't blame Kyrie for leaving 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:39.520 Cleveland because he left Cleveland at the same time that 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:42.480 I left Highly Questionable to go do High Nude High. 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:44.839 The Questionable was a very successful program. If I want 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:46.280 to do that for the rest of my life, we'd 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:48.960 have been down there making easy money living in Miami. 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:51.920 But I needed more right like it wasn't I was 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:54.800 had a very nice seat in somebody else's car. I 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:57.400 wanted to drive a car, So sometimes you gotta go 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:00.439 drive a car. Right. That's where ky he was when 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:02.160 he left Cleveland. What if you're not a driver, though, 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:05.640 well he thought he was a driver. I personally believe 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:07.040 that I was a driver, But I have to say 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:09.120 that car I drove on high dude didn't quite stay 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:10.840 on the road right. Luckily I got another chance to 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:12.560 drive a car, but he wanted to be a driver. 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:14.840 You deserve a chance to see if you can do that, 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:17.640 if somebody would give you that opportunity. With Durant, can 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:20.920 you imagine being possibly the best player on planet Earth? 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:22.880 And they'll never love he as much as this other 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:26.320 dude right here, And everybody loves Steff right, So if 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:28.040 it comes down to a battle of like who side 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:31.679 we got, you're never gonna win over Stepp. And in 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:34.200 fairness to Steff, always say this, we don't let that 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:36.200 man be a person. And so we act like, oh, 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:38.600 step will have no problem with Kevin Durant being very 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:40.400 you know, it'll be easy. I assure you. It was 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:42.880 not right. That man's got an ego, just like everybody 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:45.360 else has an ego. So you on somebody else's team, 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:47.840 you and somebody else's city, you're the best player in 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:51.600 the world, and nobody cares because it's his And so 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:54.079 he I felt like Durant one of something that was 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:56.560 more his own. Except the problem was he brought his 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:59.319 fuck up homeboy with him, and it became his team 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:01.960 because when you're the one that messes everything up, it 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:03.760 becomes your team because you're the one that we got 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:06.120 to worry about all the time. And Kevin Durant, that dude, 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:09.240 he's so cold that you never have to worry about him, 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:12.960 and that gets old, man. That's right, that's right. Speaking 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:15.400 of Steph, I love talking spots. You know what, we 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:17.960 can talk about so many other stuff. And I asked Stephen, 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:20.520 they the same question when you talk about generations, right, 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:23.360 when you look at Stephan Braun over the last ten 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:29.120 fifteen years objectively, who who whose error really wasn't This 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:31.240 is a this is a spicy one that I've been 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:33.320 dealing with and trying to figure out myself, because the 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:37.680 truth is Steph Curry won four championships on Lebron's watch, 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:40.120 that's right, and beat Broun twice, beat him twice three 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:43.640 times actually yes, three times, three times. Yeah, And there's 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:46.640 no way around that he beat him on his watch 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:50.920 while Lebron was still in his project. Let's say the Warriors, 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:52.199 and I don't think this is going to happen, but 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:55.079 let's say the Warriors won a championship, this year, and 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:58.280 that would mean that Steph had five championships and Lebron 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:02.640 has four. Okay, I could say Lebron's a better player 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:05.720 than Stuff. How could I say that the era did 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:09.439 not belong to step step changed the game. He revolutionized 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:13.160 the game of basketball and ways Braun didn't everybody played 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:16.679 like stuff. Yeah, it's tricky though, Lebron couldn't revolutionize it 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:18.200 because you look at Broun and you're like, oh, I 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:21.160 can't do that, right, Like it just it's just not 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:24.080 an option, right, Like I can't. I can't, Like there's 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:26.760 no way that I could ever look in the mirror 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:29.160 and be like, yeah, I got that, No, and I 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:31.320 was not happening. You feel like abouteff shooting, right, But 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:33.880 that's the problem. People feel like that they can't do 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:36.640 that shit either, Like I can't imagine coaching a youth 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:39.120 league basketball team right now. For Yeah, I thought he 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:40.600 was chucking. I was like, he has to be chucking. 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:42.440 The way he was shot looked like he was chucking. 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:44.120 Let me tell you, man, I was that year that 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:47.440 Steph killed the NC double A tournament I covered. I 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:49.559 was in the building for the first two rounds. I 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:51.480 even told him because It kind of like changed the 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:53.320 trajectory of my life because I was there and in 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:55.320 between jobs, and I was watching that and I was like, no, 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:58.000 I gotta be around this forever. Like it was that 0:12:58.080 --> 0:12:59.520 big a thing. But he was out there, He's like 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:02.360 a hundred four five pounds. The jersey was falling off 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:04.840 of him and dog, he was just demolished. And then 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:06.520 they played gonzag in the first round. They had a 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:09.199 couple of NBA players. He's just doing it to him playing, 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:10.960 you know, just playing with regular old dudes who could 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:14.319 get into Davidson. Right. Then they played Georgetown the next round. 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:16.520 Georgetown was the number two seed, and Georgetown should have 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:18.320 won day game. But that's a whole nother discussion. And 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:21.199 Steph's doing all that and you watch it and you're like, well, 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:23.480 he can't do that in the NBA because he's just 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:25.640 too small. That was all it is. And then you 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:28.680 realize after they changed the rules in the NBA, actually 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:31.199 he can do this in the NBA. Right, So he's 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:34.040 one of these dudes we question really just because the size. 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:35.680 It was never a question of whether or not you 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:37.920 had the talent or anything else. But man, if you 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:39.760 put like a couple of tattoos on that dude. We 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:41.839 talk about him like he's Alan Iverson because he's got 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:45.160 handles like that. He had all of it, and at 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:47.240 every turn he's like, I'm better than y'all think, and 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:49.040 we're like, but stuff, we think you're the greatest shooter 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:51.839 ever because you're really No, No, he was better every year. 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:53.480 I got to wind up coming on the microphone and 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:56.200 being like, guys, I swear I was saying this stuff 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:58.040 was really good, but you were right. I did not 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:00.000 say he was as good. I know the next time 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:01.840 might see him, he gonna have something to say to me, 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:05.600 because he finds out everything everybody says that it's little 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:08.520 bideous slight, and he's gonna say something to He ran 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:09.839 up on one of my homeboys who comes to the 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:12.240 league because we had had a podcast discussion where I 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:14.760 was trying to make the point he's a system player 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:17.319 but also the system, but all that got heard was 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:20.320 he's a system player. This is years later. He walks 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:24.239 up to my man. Not bad for a system player, Huh. 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:28.240 I don't think cats understand. I don't think people, Yeah, 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:29.760 I don't think people quite get what kind of dude 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:31.560 he is he just went to Christ's schools. That's all 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:34.440 it is. But like but otherwise now here like us. 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:36.600 Statement makes all the sense in the world though, because 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:40.560 he is the system, but the system is built around him. 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:42.200 What it is and the point we were trying to 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:44.360 make is there's a lot of guys where you'd be like, yo, 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:46.640 we need to win the game. Put four dudes at 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:48.880 the bottom, you at the top. You gonna make it happen. 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:51.760 He's not the first choice that I make to do that, 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:54.280 which is different than guys that are typically that good. 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:56.800 Ain't nobody trying to hear nothing that came after that though, 0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:01.720 shape and then a boy, we're out there one another one. 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:07.080 I'm not dig in the playoffs. I never not sleeping 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:10.920 on golden thing. Never know. That's the Clay Thompson is not. 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:13.960 What Clay Thompson was becomes the hold up. My thing 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:15.760 with the Warriors is it's hard to play for now 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:18.280 and play for later at the same time if you 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:22.880 have the opportunity. My thing is, I trade them young dudes, really, Wiseman, 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:26.480 Moody or Commander Really, if I could get Kevin Durant back, 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:29.480 I'll trade them all. Yeah, I mean of course yes, 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:31.200 but I trade out like one or two. It's hard 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:32.520 to have a bunch of dudes in their thirties and 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:34.480 a bunch of dudes it's like twenty one and like 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:36.680 make your team happen at the same time. That's just me. 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:38.720 I would get the young dudes out of there to 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:41.360 try to win while I got Steff. And if I'm Steph, 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:43.680 I go in there kicking and screaming about it as 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:45.680 the NBA getting too violent. Now, I seem like that 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:49.040 people are fighting more violent. I've always said, it's not violent. 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:51.680 It's getting back to it. He's getting back to the Detroit, 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:57.160 New York. You know why, because good basketball doesn't make 0:15:57.200 --> 0:15:59.600 people watch. Passion makes people watch. Correct, Like you think 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:02.720 about that terrible basketball or the nineties of the late 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:05.440 two thousands where you got finals games where a team 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:08.080 is scoring in the fifties, But we view that more 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:11.040 nostalgically than the game we watched. Now. We like watching 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:13.360 dudes elbow with each other. We like watching dudes put 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:15.160 each other around. And I said something on Game Theories 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:16.840 the first words the season one where I was like, 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:19.200 you realize, that's a whole generation of NBA fans that 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:21.400 have never seen their favorite players in the fight. We 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:24.880 have seen every single one of our favorite players everything 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:30.960 fight somebody John, all of them top to Bobs, Yea 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:38.000 Kobe ever did we ever? We had never seen any 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:41.040 of these cats fight. So like that level, I'm down 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:44.360 to see some pushing around. Like one of my favorite altercations, 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:46.840 Joe ll NB and Karl Anthony Towns had one because 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:48.680 Karl Anthony Towns was like, look, I know the rest 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:50.440 of y'all think I'm gonna sucker, but I'm not taking 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:53.240 that from you, and finally decided he was gonna fight him. 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:55.160 Now where I get worried, you'll see this story about 0:16:55.200 --> 0:17:00.120 John Morant and the laser beam was gone to ye on, 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:03.480 this is my only thing about that. Okay, now you're 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:06.840