Speaker 1: Wait that ass up in the morning Breakfast club morning.
Speaker 1: Everybody is tj Envy Charlemagne the guy. We are the
Speaker 1: breakfast club. We got a special guests in the building. Yes, indeed,
Speaker 1: Monty Jones, welcome back. While you get that seat and
Speaker 1: I got to sit over here and this joint you know,
Speaker 1: y'all y'all are throned out. Y'all are really minimizing your
Speaker 1: guests with this whole strategy. How does that work? We
Speaker 1: have multiple guests, like and so who gets the throne?
Speaker 1: Sound like y'all just need a whole bunch of thrones.
Speaker 1: Like I've seen this like Kylie Coward he said that
Speaker 1: set up, but his desk was up here and his
Speaker 1: guests would be sitting down there. Lebron always sitting in
Speaker 1: the high chair on the shop. Everybody else sitting on
Speaker 1: the ground. I see what this is. Well, Charlemagne, bout
Speaker 1: the thrones? Okay? Were about the thrones? I thought because
Speaker 1: he was short, he wanted to be a little highest
Speaker 1: is the reason I thought. But you just never know.
Speaker 1: I just like to set up. I like how it
Speaker 1: looks to a camera. But welcome brother, even to a
Speaker 1: game theory? Man, Yeah, man, how are you feeling. Hey man, we're,
Speaker 1: you know, out here on the stroll selling these ways
Speaker 1: for everybody, anybody that wants me to walk to stroll
Speaker 1: to look pretty. That's the end of like the trickiest
Speaker 1: part of it. But doing the show itself, Man, it's
Speaker 1: been great like this. I mean, this is the thing
Speaker 1: that I always wanted to do, and now we get
Speaker 1: to do it, and we get to keep doing it.
Speaker 1: At least we get to keep doing it through this season.
Speaker 1: I don't get to make decisions past that. But we
Speaker 1: got a lot to talk about today. So let's jump
Speaker 1: right into Super Bowl this weekend. Who you got and why?
Speaker 1: All right? I'm going with the Chiefs. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if the Chiefs are the better team, but I
Speaker 1: just can't pick against my homes. Man. How's his leg though?
Speaker 1: How's his foot? I mean, he got two of them,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like one of them might
Speaker 1: not be as good as the other one was, but
Speaker 1: he got to like and I made this mistake the
Speaker 1: last time they had the Super Bowl, Like, I'm not
Speaker 1: picking them because they had my homes because that got
Speaker 1: me in trouble when they lost to the Bucks. But
Speaker 1: I can't pick against him. Well, then that Super Bowl
Speaker 1: you probably could have after of who they were playing, well,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. It wasn't about Tom Brady. It's when I
Speaker 1: turned the TV yall and saw they had all them
Speaker 1: back up offensive linement, and immediately I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be wrong on television the ball Like sometimes you
Speaker 1: just look up. The game doesn't have to go. I
Speaker 1: just saw to du that left tackle who got Cam Newton.
Speaker 1: Damn they're killed in that Super Bowl. I was just like, up,
Speaker 1: sometimes you're wrong. Yeah. Now you did say, Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on Brady finally retiring? Dude forty
Speaker 1: six years old? Like, I don't even understand what the delivery.
Speaker 1: He's still competing, He's still competing, But some of the
Speaker 1: dudes that are hitting him into kidneys like this, this
Speaker 1: is just me personally. I would imagine at that age,
Speaker 1: I am forty two, and I know how much you
Speaker 1: can hurt just working out, just waking up. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: this dude's out here get getting buy out by everybody,
Speaker 1: and it's like, yeah, you know, I think I might
Speaker 1: want to do that, na na na nah. So I
Speaker 1: am amazed that he pulled it off for as long
Speaker 1: as he did. And I am glad that he walked
Speaker 1: away before it got to be terribly embarrassing because he
Speaker 1: was gonna be out here next year. It was gonna
Speaker 1: be depressing for all of us think oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: what if he don't went to San Francisco or something.
Speaker 1: It's still been looking depressing. Man. Everybody gets old. Like
Speaker 1: I know, he got out as a stretching and his
Speaker 1: strawberry ice cream and everything else. But in the end,
Speaker 1: I mean, he can't eat strawberries. That's his thing. He
Speaker 1: does not eat strawberries. Everybody gets old. And I think
Speaker 1: Cass like him and Lebron have fooled us into thinking
Speaker 1: that you can live forever. Nope, everybody that's thought they
Speaker 1: could go forever, it's gone one day too long. And
Speaker 1: me to sit there and cry, well, we never we
Speaker 1: had We really never saw Brady have a decline. I
Speaker 1: just don't think he had the team around him this year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And that's why it's good to get out ahead of
Speaker 1: that clime. It's coming, like no matter who you are,
Speaker 1: it's coming. Now. You mentioned Lebron, is Lebron the goat.
Speaker 1: Now he's about to pass the record in the next school.
Speaker 1: A couple of days, the conversation is coming back. No,
Speaker 1: why no, because there's a dude named Jordan. I agree,
Speaker 1: that's what I mean. That's that's no insult to Lebron.
Speaker 1: But like I remember, at one point, it's like fifteen
Speaker 1: years ago and I was doing radio and I would say,
Speaker 1: Lebron James is the best player I ever saw, and
Speaker 1: I had this whole clinical argument, like he does this
Speaker 1: better than Mike, he does this better than Mike, he
Speaker 1: does this better than Mike, and I could go through
Speaker 1: all of that, and then you go to YouTube and
Speaker 1: you're like, what was I talking about, Like none of
Speaker 1: this matters. There was that dude, and then there's everybody else,
Speaker 1: like the last dance, which was so funny because it
Speaker 1: was so clear that Mike looked around and was like,
Speaker 1: these kids just think I'm about some shoes. I need
Speaker 1: to show them who they are. And then I watched it.
Speaker 1: It was like, YO, great idea, Mike, because I don't
Speaker 1: see how they could watch this and think anything other
Speaker 1: than there's never been anything like this before. No insult
Speaker 1: to Lebron, you know. But I also think that part
Speaker 1: of the scoring record of what's important to him is
Speaker 1: he's still making that case, right, I have a case
Speaker 1: against Jordan, assist and scoring everybody. I'm just here to
Speaker 1: tell you, I don't think you have a cay. It's
Speaker 1: cool to be yourself, right. You just gotta realize you're
Speaker 1: not gonna convince us like the people who you have
Speaker 1: not convinced it's over. That decision has been made. The
Speaker 1: ones that know you cool, they're gonna ride with you,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna decide this is your program. Everybody else. Now,
Speaker 1: we made our call. I don't have bron over Kobe,
Speaker 1: and I think it's wild. See I think that's crazy.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why. We always think Kobe is the
Speaker 1: closest thing to Jordan, right, and people don't want to
Speaker 1: give it to Cobe. That's steven Na Smith say. I
Speaker 1: don't want to give it the Kobe because all he
Speaker 1: did with mimic Jordan. You know how good you gotta
Speaker 1: be the mimic Mine don't know. I give him credit,
Speaker 1: But that's like saying that Shane is better than somebody
Speaker 1: because he's the closest thing to Biggie. Now, great, Kobe's
Speaker 1: a lot better than Sean was as a rapper, But
Speaker 1: it's just like he reminds me of isn't quite enough.
Speaker 1: Lebron got too many victories. Like I know Kobe has
Speaker 1: the championships, but that run basically from twenty ten to
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen or twenty eighteen, when he's going to the
Speaker 1: finals every year and the only thing that's constant is Lebron. James,
Speaker 1: y'all only do that with Braun When it comes to
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, nobody said the Bills one of the
Speaker 1: greatest football teams of all time. They went to the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl four times, but they didn't go to Super
Speaker 1: Bowl eight times, and they didn't win the four right, right,
Speaker 1: But they didn't. But if they had won a couple
Speaker 1: of long the way we could talk about Like I'm
Speaker 1: an Atlanta Braves fan, right, I don't say they're the
Speaker 1: greatest baseball run of it just because they had fifteen
Speaker 1: straight division championships or anything else, but Lebron being the
Speaker 1: constant between two franchises and a whole bunch of different
Speaker 1: ways to get this done. Nah, man, you can't. There's
Speaker 1: no shade as you can throw on what he I'm
Speaker 1: not throwing shade. I'm just saying he's the person that we,
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, we make a concession too when it
Speaker 1: comes to not winning. That's fair. And when Kobe was
Speaker 1: missing the playoffs and out here the last four years
Speaker 1: looking you know, beat down and everything, stay passed problem,
Speaker 1: that's right, but you cut them slack for it, Like,
Speaker 1: that's the thing about it. We cut Kobe a lot
Speaker 1: of slack. He was hurt. I think the one thing
Speaker 1: that Braun doesn't have that Kobe has that Jordan has
Speaker 1: is the will to win. There was just something different
Speaker 1: about Jordan when he was on the court in those
Speaker 1: final minutes. You knew he wasn't gonna lose this game.
Speaker 1: The same thing with Kobe. Brun not so much. See,
Speaker 1: I disagree. I think Kobe had the will to take
Speaker 1: shots every time. Like when we talk about the mama
Speaker 1: mentality stuff like it's it's been long enough now that
Speaker 1: we can have an honest reassessment of Kobe. And so
Speaker 1: the thing for me about that is every time you
Speaker 1: hear about Kobe and the drive and the passion and
Speaker 1: everything else, it's all about one man. Kobe's thing is
Speaker 1: I am going to get myself all the way right,
Speaker 1: and if the rest of y'all do it, we're gonna
Speaker 1: be cool. Right. What made Braun different than Kobe was
Speaker 1: I can take Braun out here with four dudes that
Speaker 1: we get off a fifth avenue, and he'll be like
Speaker 1: Buddy from the sand Life. If you go stand over
Speaker 1: there and hold your glove up and just stand right there,
Speaker 1: the ball's gonna come to you. That's what Lebron's got,
Speaker 1: what Kobe's guy is. Man. If y'allould just give me
Speaker 1: the ball and just let me get these buckets, this
Speaker 1: will be our best chance. I don't see that as
Speaker 1: the will to win. I see that as the will
Speaker 1: to be the person who does the thing. Jordan was
Speaker 1: like that, Jordan. I think part of that's the North
Speaker 1: Carolina thing, where now then you had to get a
Speaker 1: ball to somebody else and then go figure it out.
Speaker 1: But Jordan had a better understanding the team dynamics. They look, man,
Speaker 1: I'm not an only child, but I grew up kind
Speaker 1: of as an only child playing basketball in a driveway.
Speaker 1: That's Kobe. Kobe got a driveway game, right. He got
Speaker 1: all by himself, moves all that stuff. When you imagine
Speaker 1: you ain't got to think about nobody else. He's shoot
Speaker 1: doing crazy fall aways. And everything else because you're playing
Speaker 1: in the driveway by yourself and then he gets out
Speaker 1: with other people. And that was the whole thing with Kobe.
Speaker 1: The whole way was like figuring out how to interact
Speaker 1: with other people. It was a human thing. But I
Speaker 1: also think it was a basketball thing. And I go
Speaker 1: with Lebron for that reason. Over that, like when Lebron
Speaker 1: had that squad and No. Seven, Kobe can't get that
Speaker 1: team to the finals in the East or either way,
Speaker 1: because that's not how Kobe gets down. Lebron out here,
Speaker 1: got Jeff McKennis out here looking like something that he
Speaker 1: never could be. Yeah, now, Kyrie, Irvy, that was just mean,
Speaker 1: that's what I do. Now he just got traded to
Speaker 1: the Mavericks. What's your thoughts on on Kyrie? Does that
Speaker 1: make that team better, worse or it doesn't matter. I
Speaker 1: have no idea, and I don't think anybody. I don't
Speaker 1: think anybody has no no. But he's another dude that's
Speaker 1: in a similar place where his individual game is just
Speaker 1: so incredible, like saying, he's the best ball handler that
Speaker 1: I've ever seen, not even close, right, But how many
Speaker 1: games he gonna play? He got all kinds to not
Speaker 1: show up, not coming to work. Now he's dealing with
Speaker 1: a dude who's not accustomed to give him the ball
Speaker 1: to anybody else. Neither one of them plays especially well
Speaker 1: off the ball, But I don't But with the nets,
Speaker 1: I don't feel like they got better either. Like this
Speaker 1: is the rare time I look at the trade and
Speaker 1: be like, oh, everybody wanted to do words. Huh. Ain't
Speaker 1: that so? Because I told Kyrie he was like, you know,
Speaker 1: the word was out that he might sit for the
Speaker 1: rest of the year if he doesn't get traded. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I bet you want that Max deal. You're gonna get
Speaker 1: out here and play because that's all you can do
Speaker 1: to get this money. That the worst, I should say,
Speaker 1: the worst let down to NBA history ever. James Harden, ever,
Speaker 1: Durant ever, Kyrie ever ever doesn't make any sense. First
Speaker 1: of all, they played like a game and a half together,
Speaker 1: like in some total. But no, ever, I can't think
Speaker 1: of anything. Remember how we thought about that year the
Speaker 1: Lakers got Gary Payton and Carl Malone and they were old,
Speaker 1: and we thought it was a let down When they
Speaker 1: went to the finals. These dudes won a series, one
Speaker 1: single solitary series and I'm just waiting to figure out
Speaker 1: when they're gonna trade Kevin Durant. But what do you do?
Speaker 1: What do you do with Kevin Durant? You to Brooklyn
Speaker 1: nets And if you are Kevin Durant, what do you
Speaker 1: want to go? Well, I can't go where it's the
Speaker 1: best place for me to Wars she had never left.
Speaker 1: I don't blame them for leaving, like I didn't blame
Speaker 1: Kyrie for leaving Cleveland, the same way I didn't blame
Speaker 1: Durant for leaving Goldstake. I didn't blame Kyrie for leaving
Speaker 1: Cleveland because he left Cleveland at the same time that
Speaker 1: I left Highly Questionable to go do High Nude High.
Speaker 1: The Questionable was a very successful program. If I want
Speaker 1: to do that for the rest of my life, we'd
Speaker 1: have been down there making easy money living in Miami.
Speaker 1: But I needed more right like it wasn't I was
Speaker 1: had a very nice seat in somebody else's car. I
Speaker 1: wanted to drive a car, So sometimes you gotta go
Speaker 1: drive a car. Right. That's where ky he was when
Speaker 1: he left Cleveland. What if you're not a driver, though,
Speaker 1: well he thought he was a driver. I personally believe
Speaker 1: that I was a driver, But I have to say
Speaker 1: that car I drove on high dude didn't quite stay
Speaker 1: on the road right. Luckily I got another chance to
Speaker 1: drive a car, but he wanted to be a driver.
Speaker 1: You deserve a chance to see if you can do that,
Speaker 1: if somebody would give you that opportunity. With Durant, can
Speaker 1: you imagine being possibly the best player on planet Earth?
Speaker 1: And they'll never love he as much as this other
Speaker 1: dude right here, And everybody loves Steff right, So if
Speaker 1: it comes down to a battle of like who side
Speaker 1: we got, you're never gonna win over Stepp. And in
Speaker 1: fairness to Steff, always say this, we don't let that
Speaker 1: man be a person. And so we act like, oh,
Speaker 1: step will have no problem with Kevin Durant being very
Speaker 1: you know, it'll be easy. I assure you. It was
Speaker 1: not right. That man's got an ego, just like everybody
Speaker 1: else has an ego. So you on somebody else's team,
Speaker 1: you and somebody else's city, you're the best player in
Speaker 1: the world, and nobody cares because it's his And so
Speaker 1: he I felt like Durant one of something that was
Speaker 1: more his own. Except the problem was he brought his
Speaker 1: fuck up homeboy with him, and it became his team
Speaker 1: because when you're the one that messes everything up, it
Speaker 1: becomes your team because you're the one that we got
Speaker 1: to worry about all the time. And Kevin Durant, that dude,
Speaker 1: he's so cold that you never have to worry about him,
Speaker 1: and that gets old, man. That's right, that's right. Speaking
Speaker 1: of Steph, I love talking spots. You know what, we
Speaker 1: can talk about so many other stuff. And I asked Stephen,
Speaker 1: they the same question when you talk about generations, right,
Speaker 1: when you look at Stephan Braun over the last ten
Speaker 1: fifteen years objectively, who who whose error really wasn't This
Speaker 1: is a this is a spicy one that I've been
Speaker 1: dealing with and trying to figure out myself, because the
Speaker 1: truth is Steph Curry won four championships on Lebron's watch,
Speaker 1: that's right, and beat Broun twice, beat him twice three
Speaker 1: times actually yes, three times, three times. Yeah, And there's
Speaker 1: no way around that he beat him on his watch
Speaker 1: while Lebron was still in his project. Let's say the Warriors,
Speaker 1: and I don't think this is going to happen, but
Speaker 1: let's say the Warriors won a championship, this year, and
Speaker 1: that would mean that Steph had five championships and Lebron
Speaker 1: has four. Okay, I could say Lebron's a better player
Speaker 1: than Stuff. How could I say that the era did
Speaker 1: not belong to step step changed the game. He revolutionized
Speaker 1: the game of basketball and ways Braun didn't everybody played
Speaker 1: like stuff. Yeah, it's tricky though, Lebron couldn't revolutionize it
Speaker 1: because you look at Broun and you're like, oh, I
Speaker 1: can't do that, right, Like it just it's just not
Speaker 1: an option, right, Like I can't. I can't, Like there's
Speaker 1: no way that I could ever look in the mirror
Speaker 1: and be like, yeah, I got that, No, and I
Speaker 1: was not happening. You feel like abouteff shooting, right, But
Speaker 1: that's the problem. People feel like that they can't do
Speaker 1: that shit either, Like I can't imagine coaching a youth
Speaker 1: league basketball team right now. For Yeah, I thought he
Speaker 1: was chucking. I was like, he has to be chucking.
Speaker 1: The way he was shot looked like he was chucking.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, man, I was that year that
Speaker 1: Steph killed the NC double A tournament I covered. I
Speaker 1: was in the building for the first two rounds. I
Speaker 1: even told him because It kind of like changed the
Speaker 1: trajectory of my life because I was there and in
Speaker 1: between jobs, and I was watching that and I was like, no,
Speaker 1: I gotta be around this forever. Like it was that
Speaker 1: big a thing. But he was out there, He's like
Speaker 1: a hundred four five pounds. The jersey was falling off
Speaker 1: of him and dog, he was just demolished. And then
Speaker 1: they played gonzag in the first round. They had a
Speaker 1: couple of NBA players. He's just doing it to him playing,
Speaker 1: you know, just playing with regular old dudes who could
Speaker 1: get into Davidson. Right. Then they played Georgetown the next round.
Speaker 1: Georgetown was the number two seed, and Georgetown should have
Speaker 1: won day game. But that's a whole nother discussion. And
Speaker 1: Steph's doing all that and you watch it and you're like, well,
Speaker 1: he can't do that in the NBA because he's just
Speaker 1: too small. That was all it is. And then you
Speaker 1: realize after they changed the rules in the NBA, actually
Speaker 1: he can do this in the NBA. Right, So he's
Speaker 1: one of these dudes we question really just because the size.
Speaker 1: It was never a question of whether or not you
Speaker 1: had the talent or anything else. But man, if you
Speaker 1: put like a couple of tattoos on that dude. We
Speaker 1: talk about him like he's Alan Iverson because he's got
Speaker 1: handles like that. He had all of it, and at
Speaker 1: every turn he's like, I'm better than y'all think, and
Speaker 1: we're like, but stuff, we think you're the greatest shooter
Speaker 1: ever because you're really No, No, he was better every year.
Speaker 1: I got to wind up coming on the microphone and
Speaker 1: being like, guys, I swear I was saying this stuff
Speaker 1: was really good, but you were right. I did not
Speaker 1: say he was as good. I know the next time
Speaker 1: might see him, he gonna have something to say to me,
Speaker 1: because he finds out everything everybody says that it's little
Speaker 1: bideous slight, and he's gonna say something to He ran
Speaker 1: up on one of my homeboys who comes to the
Speaker 1: league because we had had a podcast discussion where I
Speaker 1: was trying to make the point he's a system player
Speaker 1: but also the system, but all that got heard was
Speaker 1: he's a system player. This is years later. He walks
Speaker 1: up to my man. Not bad for a system player, Huh.
Speaker 1: I don't think cats understand. I don't think people, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think people quite get what kind of dude
Speaker 1: he is he just went to Christ's schools. That's all
Speaker 1: it is. But like but otherwise now here like us.
Speaker 1: Statement makes all the sense in the world though, because
Speaker 1: he is the system, but the system is built around him.
Speaker 1: What it is and the point we were trying to
Speaker 1: make is there's a lot of guys where you'd be like, yo,
Speaker 1: we need to win the game. Put four dudes at
Speaker 1: the bottom, you at the top. You gonna make it happen.
Speaker 1: He's not the first choice that I make to do that,
Speaker 1: which is different than guys that are typically that good.
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody trying to hear nothing that came after that though,
Speaker 1: shape and then a boy, we're out there one another one.
Speaker 1: I'm not dig in the playoffs. I never not sleeping
Speaker 1: on golden thing. Never know. That's the Clay Thompson is not.
Speaker 1: What Clay Thompson was becomes the hold up. My thing
Speaker 1: with the Warriors is it's hard to play for now
Speaker 1: and play for later at the same time if you
Speaker 1: have the opportunity. My thing is, I trade them young dudes, really, Wiseman,
Speaker 1: Moody or Commander Really, if I could get Kevin Durant back,
Speaker 1: I'll trade them all. Yeah, I mean of course yes,
Speaker 1: but I trade out like one or two. It's hard
Speaker 1: to have a bunch of dudes in their thirties and
Speaker 1: a bunch of dudes it's like twenty one and like
Speaker 1: make your team happen at the same time. That's just me.
Speaker 1: I would get the young dudes out of there to
Speaker 1: try to win while I got Steff. And if I'm Steph,
Speaker 1: I go in there kicking and screaming about it as
Speaker 1: the NBA getting too violent. Now, I seem like that
Speaker 1: people are fighting more violent. I've always said, it's not violent.
Speaker 1: It's getting back to it. He's getting back to the Detroit,
Speaker 1: New York. You know why, because good basketball doesn't make
Speaker 1: people watch. Passion makes people watch. Correct, Like you think
Speaker 1: about that terrible basketball or the nineties of the late
Speaker 1: two thousands where you got finals games where a team
Speaker 1: is scoring in the fifties, But we view that more
Speaker 1: nostalgically than the game we watched. Now. We like watching
Speaker 1: dudes elbow with each other. We like watching dudes put
Speaker 1: each other around. And I said something on Game Theories
Speaker 1: the first words the season one where I was like,
Speaker 1: you realize, that's a whole generation of NBA fans that
Speaker 1: have never seen their favorite players in the fight. We
Speaker 1: have seen every single one of our favorite players everything
Speaker 1: fight somebody John, all of them top to Bobs, Yea
Speaker 1: Kobe ever did we ever? We had never seen any
Speaker 1: of these cats fight. So like that level, I'm down
Speaker 1: to see some pushing around. Like one of my favorite altercations,
Speaker 1: Joe ll NB and Karl Anthony Towns had one because
Speaker 1: Karl Anthony Towns was like, look, I know the rest
Speaker 1: of y'all think I'm gonna sucker, but I'm not taking
Speaker 1: that from you, and finally decided he was gonna fight him.
Speaker 1: Now where I get worried, you'll see this story about
Speaker 1: John Morant and the laser beam was gone to ye on,
Speaker 1: this is my only thing about that. Okay, now you're
Speaker 1: from not too far away where he's from from something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know what part of South Carolina that is, right,
Speaker 1: like in terms of like what it's like on the ground,
Speaker 1: but a country country. People don't understand that country got
Speaker 1: real also right, I don't know how he rolls, how
Speaker 1: he gets down, but I know a lot about Memphis.
Speaker 1: And you can play this game with that laser dot
Speaker 1: on the team bus with the Paciers. If you want to,
Speaker 1: and if you want to play these games with your
Speaker 1: NBA friends, go ahead, watch your step in that city
Speaker 1: that you live in. And that's my thought about that,
Speaker 1: Like if you ride around with your partners and that's
Speaker 1: they get down and you still got these dudes around you,
Speaker 1: which makes me wonder what you and your daddy be
Speaker 1: talking about. He had every single game and you still
Speaker 1: riding around the dudes. That's laser beam and strength. Like
Speaker 1: people like, like, what exactly are you talking about? But
Speaker 1: I hope he's careful. I really hope. There was the
Speaker 1: other story. I don't know if you saw that. Somebody
Speaker 1: sued him, um basketball playing basketball at the house. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're I was team job. Basically, some young man that
Speaker 1: he's known forever was playing ball at his house and
Speaker 1: they had some heated altercation and the young man says
Speaker 1: he accidentally threw a ball that whiz passed Jah's head
Speaker 1: and y'all looked around allegedly and said should I do
Speaker 1: it to him? And they said yes, and they gave
Speaker 1: that board the beats um, but he was like seventeen.
Speaker 1: Oh wow. Now that comes down to a philosophical question
Speaker 1: as to like how old how old is old enough
Speaker 1: to get your ass kicked for acting like? How b
Speaker 1: seventeen year old? Somebody? Seventeen year olds pretty big man.
Speaker 1: I think seventeen was enough for me. Like at seventeen,
Speaker 1: I recognize the girl. Man, like what my ass? But
Speaker 1: then they say the NBA did an investigation and find
Speaker 1: out they couldn't confirm the laser star. Yeah, they couldn't
Speaker 1: confirm it. But uh, here's what I here's it's sound
Speaker 1: like they couldn't confirm they couldn't confirm that the laser
Speaker 1: was tied to a gun. Ridge is fair, and I
Speaker 1: think it's in all likelihood and boards are just playing
Speaker 1: around in the car with a laser. Reje had one
Speaker 1: this morning like that. I think we all like maybe
Speaker 1: I'm just from Texas. We don't play like Shannon Sharp.
Speaker 1: What's your thoughts? I love Shannon All getting with a
Speaker 1: couple of people on the court because at one time,
Speaker 1: if you agree with somebody in the corn like that,
Speaker 1: you get thrown out. I love Shannon though. Shannon is
Speaker 1: one of my favorite. You're not getting kicked out of
Speaker 1: the Staples Center whatever they call it now when you
Speaker 1: the number one lebron James fat right, let's go there.
Speaker 1: My my favorite thing about that though Dylan Brooks he
Speaker 1: was ready for that. Dylan Brooks didn't want that. I
Speaker 1: think it was Desmond Baine was the other dude that
Speaker 1: came over there. Desmon Vaine. They really want that either.
Speaker 1: Steven Adams, Oh, suddenly we have a fair fight. Steven
Speaker 1: Adams feels no paid because it perfects to pay, like
Speaker 1: like he had to reach on Shannon to mother dudes
Speaker 1: who sh had a sharp would to beat the dog
Speaker 1: shit out of the listen. You know before you go on, man,
Speaker 1: I was talking about game theory. You do game theory
Speaker 1: by yourself with talking about Shannon. When you see these
Speaker 1: heated altercations that Shannon and Skip Bayler's get into it,
Speaker 1: even saw stephen A and Jay get into yesterday. Jay williamsay,
Speaker 1: that's just something that comes with the territory. It kind
Speaker 1: of depends on the dynamic that you have with your
Speaker 1: co host. But yeah, that can I mean, you think
Speaker 1: about it, man, Them dudes is up there holling at
Speaker 1: each other for two and a half hours day, right
Speaker 1: like y'all eat here kicking it right like like the
Speaker 1: nature of your show is not antaggonistic. Right, y'all. They
Speaker 1: go at it and with the ego the Skip has
Speaker 1: and I know Skip, I know, like I don't know
Speaker 1: them like real close, but I know them well enough
Speaker 1: to talk about it in this context. And what happened
Speaker 1: was like I saw another woman with Shannon and Skip,
Speaker 1: and I may be out of turn because I don't
Speaker 1: work at that network, but Shannon didn't have to say,
Speaker 1: you could have took down the tweet. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: just let that go. Just let that go. And Skip
Speaker 1: didn't have to be like, I'm not gonna take it
Speaker 1: down and let me explain why and didn't. Whatever the
Speaker 1: old fight was happened right in front of each other.
Speaker 1: And what I've said and I hope for them is
Speaker 1: this this TV thing that back and forth only works
Speaker 1: at the people think you like each other, Like if
Speaker 1: they know you don't like each other, feel like you
Speaker 1: don't like each other, it doesn't go court has and
Speaker 1: will bond scream at each other and may be heated
Speaker 1: at each other sometimes but always at the end as
Speaker 1: a reminder that they like each other. Stephen Ay and
Speaker 1: Jay got a little bit of a different dynamic because
Speaker 1: it ain't their show, it's his show, and the last
Speaker 1: thing I saw on there, and I haven't talked to
Speaker 1: either one of them about this, but Jay did something
Speaker 1: that would have got me right there with Steven Ay
Speaker 1: with stephen A is like, Yo, you always tell me
Speaker 1: what you find interesting. Why don't you just say what
Speaker 1: you mean? Like, no, hold on, we're not doing passive
Speaker 1: aggressive about this, Like stephen A. Smith is not a
Speaker 1: person that's here for your tiptoe. He's right here say
Speaker 1: what it is that you think. But on this issue,
Speaker 1: they've gotten in these arguments. I was trying to YouTube
Speaker 1: the full segment and I found another one and them
Speaker 1: holing at each other about Kyrie Irving right, like it's
Speaker 1: that one is particular and in ways seems personal to
Speaker 1: both of them for different ways. Stephen Ay, he got
Speaker 1: contacts with those people over there and talking to them,
Speaker 1: and every now and then they'll be like, yo, I
Speaker 1: don't care about you or your daddy. So like it's
Speaker 1: clear they got their thing. Jay Williams went to do.
Speaker 1: Jay Williams is from their New Jersey school Basketball World,
Speaker 1: so they both bringing whatever their things are into this.
Speaker 1: But they got shows where people just like arguing each other.
Speaker 1: None of the shows I've been on dan ain't Bill
Speaker 1: for that. Me and him couldn't hoilight each other like that.
Speaker 1: Oh God, if I hollow that poplo like that on television,
Speaker 1: they send me to jail. Like it's just it's not
Speaker 1: or at least I get to tension. It's not. The
Speaker 1: dynamic did not allow they stop Asian hate all kind of.
Speaker 1: But our dynamic and our interaction didn't work that way.
Speaker 1: Skipp and Shannon, when they're on good terms, they can
Speaker 1: do it. But now that's the thing, when you got
Speaker 1: that we highlight each other television show at sometimes it
Speaker 1: ain't gonna it ain't gonna be games, right, So how
Speaker 1: do you navigate that hosting your own you know we're
Speaker 1: gonna be good with some roll. How do you navigate
Speaker 1: that hosting your own show? Oh, I ain't gotta argue
Speaker 1: with nobody no more. Yeah, but I'm talking about you know,
Speaker 1: we know people like to see some type of conflict. Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you feel the need to like stir something? No,
Speaker 1: because I can't the kind of conflict that we're talking
Speaker 1: about here, Like I feel honest saying this, and I
Speaker 1: don't think aybody's gonna look at me for being a
Speaker 1: jerk for it, right, would you want to argue with
Speaker 1: me on television, No would you? No, Like I wouldn't
Speaker 1: want to argue withoud be. I can have a conversation, conversation,
Speaker 1: but like y'all bring it to you right now, most
Speaker 1: people aren't. Like, that's not a winning proposition for most people.
Speaker 1: So you can't approach somebody like BUMI emotionally, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: lose everything. But then I can't approach them emotionally because
Speaker 1: then I just look like a bullet, right, I don't
Speaker 1: look like like I like it works better, Like if
Speaker 1: you saw the thing I had with Jake Paul the
Speaker 1: other that back and forth I knew going in if
Speaker 1: Jake Paul tried me, I'm gonna just let them do it.
Speaker 1: Let's keep going, okay, okay, Like I'm a video game
Speaker 1: boss when it comes to arguing stuff like, I don't
Speaker 1: have to prove anything to those people, so I can
Speaker 1: just lay back and go with it what I find
Speaker 1: works better for me. Like when my podcast, people like
Speaker 1: to hear me talk to my friends, Like they don't
Speaker 1: want to hear me in conflict. They want to hear
Speaker 1: me chilling because that to them is like the refreshing
Speaker 1: part of it. It's like, yo, right, Baumney's actually just
Speaker 1: like one of our friends. We can just hang out
Speaker 1: and talk about this stuff. But other people, I get
Speaker 1: why they feel like they gotta And I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that the people we talked about a manufacturing conflict, but
Speaker 1: I know why a lot of people feel like they
Speaker 1: have to manufacture conflict. But I can just make people
Speaker 1: man getting out of bed, like I ain't really got
Speaker 1: to try hard to get them to that place. Well,
Speaker 1: we appreciate you for stopping through broo game theory. What's
Speaker 1: what's the days again? Is it still Sunday? Oh no,
Speaker 1: We're on Friday. Now. Friday's eleven eastern on HBO on
Speaker 1: HBO Max BEI all right, after Real Time with Bill
Speaker 1: Maher And this week, I believe our in studio guest
Speaker 1: is Gilbert Arenas. Okay, yes, this should uh, this should
Speaker 1: be interesting. This is the rare time where I'm like,
Speaker 1: what in the world am I gonna do with this interview?
Speaker 1: I have this go any direction? So we got that
Speaker 1: getting ready for the super Bowl. You've a good, good,
Speaker 1: good conversation. Though you know one thing other thing's gonna
Speaker 1: ask you. People will look at you and they see
Speaker 1: you on HBO and they think, man who some people
Speaker 1: might think, but money came out of nowhere, but they
Speaker 1: don't realize you've had a long broad got created at
Speaker 1: the debate, I was just having in here earlier because
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, there's no point of entry to
Speaker 1: to podcast or I have no idea how you do
Speaker 1: it anymore, Like I was. I was talking to Jamal
Speaker 1: about this yesterday when she was like, if somebody young
Speaker 1: came ask you how you get in the game, what
Speaker 1: would you tell them? And I would tell them I
Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, turn your compute on because because I
Speaker 1: feel like you haven't skipped any steps. Being that you
Speaker 1: haven't skipped any steps, you have the skill set to
Speaker 1: sustain where you are. I feel like with these new people,
Speaker 1: they just turn on the microphones start their podcasts and
Speaker 1: they haven't acquired any skills from the skifferent steps. And
Speaker 1: I don't know where you get them, right, Like I
Speaker 1: don't know if this podcast school right, Like I don't
Speaker 1: know if you know, like if the colleges or whatever
Speaker 1: or like teaching people how to get in and do this.
Speaker 1: But like I remember when I first got in the game,
Speaker 1: I got in writing and I did skip steps, but
Speaker 1: I was working with editors and people who were making
Speaker 1: me better and then gradually, like there were things that
Speaker 1: we figured out and we got to the place where
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, cool, this is where I am. But
Speaker 1: now with the podcast game, when I talk to people
Speaker 1: and they asked me like what can they do to
Speaker 1: get on? They never asking me how to make they
Speaker 1: work better. They're like, hey, so what can I do
Speaker 1: with my Twitter or my TikTok, you know, to get
Speaker 1: people to see it? And I'm like, look, network can
Speaker 1: sign yeah, and I'm like exposed to get you exposed,
Speaker 1: Like if your work is not ready to be seen,
Speaker 1: you don't want This is where people talking about coming
Speaker 1: in here just a little bit earlier, like hey man,
Speaker 1: people are gonna give you one shot. Like if what
Speaker 1: you got ain't there, you don't want to put that
Speaker 1: before the world. So you need to do whatever it
Speaker 1: takes to make your work better and then hope that
Speaker 1: the people who listen to you will share. Like Chuck
Speaker 1: d says something it's like ten years ago online, I'll
Speaker 1: never forget, And his point was if you have a
Speaker 1: band or a rap group, whatever it is, and you
Speaker 1: got a Facebook fan page, and that Facebook fan page
Speaker 1: has ten fans. Your fan page needs to serve those
Speaker 1: ten fans. They're all like corporate thinking is I'm gonna
Speaker 1: serve all these people who ain't there, serve those ten people,
Speaker 1: and then those ten people will tell somebody else about it,
Speaker 1: and now your ten might turn to twelve, and then
Speaker 1: your twelve might turn to fourteen or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: But what they could do is get you your own
Speaker 1: little audience and serve it and get better and get better,
Speaker 1: and then from there somebody might notice you. But even
Speaker 1: like it was ten twelve years ago, like I got
Speaker 1: on TV via Twitter, right, I got the attention to
Speaker 1: people who made decisions sending tweets. Twitter so overcrowded and
Speaker 1: nobody does anything productive there. I don't even know if
Speaker 1: you can impress anybody on Twitter to get off. So like,
Speaker 1: if you want to do this, you better love it,
Speaker 1: because since everybody else is doing it, it ain't gonna
Speaker 1: be no money out there for you very long either. Exactly,
Speaker 1: this is a tough game right now, that's right, as
Speaker 1: you get you exposed Jones, that's right, watch either to
Speaker 1: a game theory man just Friday, right after Bill Mah
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Speaker 1: throne got a wire.