1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: Calling all my sweeties to the forefront. I'm your host, Christopher, 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: and this is the Keeping Positive Sweetish Show. 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,159 Speaker 2: Whether you're tuning in from your couch, your car, or 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 2: a quiet moment of peace, I want you to take 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 2: a deep breath and get ready for a little soul 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 2: work wrapped enjoy because today we're not just talking, we're transforming. 7 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: Let's get into it and remember keep it positive. 8 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 3: Sweetie. 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: She is a visionary behind the Honey Pop Company, a 10 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: feminine care brand rooted in plant based healing and sexual 11 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 2: wisdom and fearless innovation. What started as a spiritual download 12 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: became a movement that is now stocked in homes, shelves 13 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: and hearts across the world. 14 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: Sweet please give. 15 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 2: A warm welcome to be a Dixon Via. Thank you 16 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 2: so much for taking time to be with us today. 17 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. 18 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: Of course I've been trying to get you on. Our 19 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: schedules have been crazy. Yes, this has been a crazy year. 20 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, flying by. Yeah, I feel like it was 21 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: just January and we're in June. 22 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 3: I'm wild. I'm grateful, but it's crazy. 23 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: Yes, so grateful. 24 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 3: Yeah. 25 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: So, for those who don't know, you are the founder 26 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 2: and creator of Honeypot. Yes, I went to a panel 27 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: at the Gathering Spot years ago when you first started, 28 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: and I remember you telling the story about how this 29 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: idea came to you in a dream. Can you tell 30 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: us a little more about that and how Honeypot came to. 31 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: Be the megabusiness? Thank you, honestly, it's it's interesting. 32 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 4: So I had back to your vaginosis for almost a year, 33 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 4: and I tried everything that you can imagine. I tried medicine, 34 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 4: so I basically lived on antibiotics for almost eight months, 35 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 4: which is. 36 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 3: Probably part of the reason why I. 37 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 4: Had problems here, right, because I never really gave my 38 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 4: body the time to replenish its microbiome, right, whether that 39 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 4: was my gut, my vagina, everything, So I did that. 40 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 4: I lived on flagile or cleandamizing or metronide is all 41 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 4: you know, for anybody who's had TV, you know what 42 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 4: I'm talking about. I also lived on Google, right, which 43 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 4: is definitely not the place where you should be when 44 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 4: your vagina's acting up. 45 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 3: And you know, and I tried everything, I mean everything. 46 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 4: I was talking to people on Google forums trying to 47 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 4: figure out what worked for them. We were all just 48 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 4: trading advice on what would work. 49 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 3: It was. It was wild. 50 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 4: But nothing worked, obviously, because none of the things that 51 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 4: I was doing was really sustainable for my body. Until 52 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 4: one day my grandmother came to me one morning and 53 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 4: basically have told me that she had been walking with 54 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 4: me and seeing me struggle, and. 55 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 3: She knew what to do. You know. It's funny. 56 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 4: I always imagine her being like, let me go help 57 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 4: this baby, because I really I was because what the 58 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 4: BV that I had, you know, because there's all different 59 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 4: kind of strains of it. There's different variations of how 60 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 4: bad or you know, how light it can be. Some 61 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 4: people don't even know they have bb right, the kind 62 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 4: that I had. Yeah, I mean I was the person 63 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 4: that stunk up the bathroom, right, I was the person 64 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 4: when I got in a car you could smell me 65 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 4: like that happened to me a couple of times. 66 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 3: And it wasn't just me in the car, you know. 67 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 4: So it came with a lot of shame, with a 68 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 4: lot of stigma, you know, with a lot of embarrassment. 69 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 3: You know, I just was It just wasn't great, you know. 70 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 4: And and so when my grandmother came, she literally handed 71 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 4: me a piece of paper and she told me that 72 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 4: what I needed was on the paper and I needed 73 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 4: to memorize it, and so I just started repeating the 74 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 4: ingredients over and over again. I had no idea what 75 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 4: it was going to be, you know. Yeah, and then 76 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 4: finally she told me to wake up. She like, yo, 77 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 4: wake up, And so I woke up and I wrote 78 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 4: it down. I went to work that day because I 79 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 4: worked at Whole Foods, I bought all the stuff. I 80 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 4: went home that night made myself. So I have a 81 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 4: background in pharmacy. I used to work in ivy rooms 82 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 4: and compounding pharmacies and chemo lie. I did all kinds 83 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 4: of stuff, and so she knew that if she gave 84 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 4: me the ingredients, I would be able to figure out 85 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 4: the math to figure out to make myself a formula, 86 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 4: you know. And it turned out to be a wash 87 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 4: and I started using it right away, and within a 88 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 4: few days my symptoms were gone. 89 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 3: It was wild. 90 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: That's too crazy. 91 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 3: Wow. 92 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 2: What do you think is like the most common misconception 93 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 2: when it comes to BV because a lot of women 94 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: struggle with this, But there's so many different Like people 95 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 2: think it's something wrong with them. 96 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 4: People think it's something wrong with them. People think that 97 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 4: something's wrong with their partner that they may be having 98 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 4: sex with. A lot of relationships can end because of it. 99 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 4: And literally it could just be a chemistry thing. You know, 100 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 4: if the person that you're having sex with, whether they're 101 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 4: from the opposite sex or not, right, yeah, you know, 102 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 4: especially if they're from the opposite sex, if they're you know, 103 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 4: pH is too high and they're semen, which is normal. 104 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 4: The semen is carrying what life right, and so sometimes 105 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 4: their pH can be a bit higher. And if your 106 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 4: pH was already off and then you had sex, even 107 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 4: if all of that didn't come inside of you, right, like, 108 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 4: even if it's just the chemistry of pre right, yes, yes, 109 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 4: it can still affect you, you know, And so it 110 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 4: could just be a chemistry thing. It doesn't mean you're dirty, 111 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 4: It doesn't mean they're dirty. It just means that, like 112 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 4: the phs aren't matching up, you know, I think you know. 113 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 4: Another misconception is people not understanding that whatever you're doing 114 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 4: on a daily basis is probably throwing you off. 115 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: Right, can you give us some examples of things that 116 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: throw people so, Like. 117 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 4: Examples of things that throw people off are using body wash, 118 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 4: your everyday body wash, right, using things like bron or soap. 119 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 4: And I used to use that, and it's fine to 120 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 4: use it on your body, but it's not made for 121 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 4: your volva or your vagina. Right, even though you're not 122 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 4: putting an inside of you where your vagina is, whatever 123 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 4: you do on the outside is affecting the inside. So 124 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 4: using soaps, even bar soaps, certain bar soaps, if they 125 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 4: have a high pH, then they're probably gonna throw you 126 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 4: off because again, the chemistry of that soap isn't made 127 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 4: for that part of your body. It's no different than 128 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 4: you're not going to use the same thing on your 129 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 4: body on your face. Right, used to use everybody, but 130 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,799 Speaker 4: you were thugging it out like you didn't have any money. 131 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 4: That's what you had to do now, right, and so 132 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 4: you know, and even then, I'm sure it was stripping 133 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 4: your skin, you know, because the pH of the vaulment 134 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 4: and the face are actually very The vagina excuse me, 135 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 4: and the face are actually very similar. Yeah, And so 136 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 4: you know, So whatever you're doing on a daily basis, 137 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 4: pay attention to that. 138 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 3: You don't need to use washcloths. 139 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 4: You should just use your hand just when you're you know, 140 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 4: cleaning inside your lips and everything. 141 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 3: You know and actually like after you have sex. 142 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 4: Actually getting especially if you're a person who's susceptible to 143 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 4: any kind of infection, you need to get up. 144 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 3: You need to go peep, You need to get in the. 145 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 4: Shower and wash off, right, even if you're gonna get 146 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 4: busy again, just you know you have when you're a 147 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 4: person who's prone to infection, you have to be hyper vigilant. 148 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 4: The moment you're done working out, you need to be 149 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 4: changing your panties, right, bringing some wipes, cleaning yourself up 150 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 4: a little bit. You know it sounds gross, but after 151 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 4: you who don't just use toilet paper bag, you know, no, 152 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 4: I mean, use some wipes. If you're in a pinch 153 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 4: and all you got is toilet paper, because that happens 154 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 4: sometimes the moment you get home, clean yourself up, right, 155 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,119 Speaker 4: especially if you're wearing a thong or something like that. 156 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 3: You know, these are all you know. 157 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 4: It's a lot of misconceptions, right, but when you think 158 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 4: about it, if depending on the type of panties you're wearing, 159 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 4: especially if it's a thong and you did go to 160 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 4: the bathroom and didn't clean up that bacteria, it's just 161 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 4: you understand what m something. So like you know, a 162 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 4: lot of the issue is overgrowth of bad bacteria. And 163 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 4: when the pH is not is above four point five, 164 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 4: you have just created an environment. Because our microbiome, whether 165 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 4: it's our gut or our vagina, right, our microbiome has 166 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 4: good and bad. 167 00:08:59,000 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 3: But it's supposed to. 168 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 4: Yes, and they should be yin and yang, they should 169 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 4: be even right. But the moment the right environment presents itself, 170 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 4: they will multiply. And they don't multiply by the tens, 171 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 4: they multiply by the millions, by the billions. So that's 172 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 4: how that's how quickly an infection can come. So that's 173 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 4: why using things like our washes are important. 174 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 3: Right. 175 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 4: You know, if you're a person who shower, or excuse me, 176 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 4: if you're a person who's susceptible to infection, taking a 177 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 4: shower in the morning, take a shower at night. It 178 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 4: may feel like a lot, right, but it's not. You 179 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 4: know when you think of when you've slept all night, 180 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 4: you've sweated, you've yes, right, you maybe you didn't wear panties, 181 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 4: Maybe you did. 182 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 3: Maybe maybe you're a person who wears full pajama. You 183 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 3: understand what I'm saying. 184 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 4: All those things create environments, and so you know, it's 185 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 4: just important to keep yourself clean, cleep, yourself dry, you know, yeah, 186 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 4: take care of yourself. 187 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: No, I use your product. 188 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: Ever since that panel that you spoke on with Malika, 189 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 2: I started using your phone wash And that was the 190 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: first time I'd heard that we were supposed to wash 191 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 2: with our hands and not with our rags. From a 192 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 2: kid to the do you know, my mom did teach us, like, 193 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 2: use a different rag for your face and your body, 194 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 2: but we were using the same rag for everything, not 195 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 2: thinking that you're especially like when you're not washing the rag, 196 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 2: you're done, brand new rag every day, which you should be, yes, right, 197 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 2: exactly every shower. 198 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 3: Right. If you're a person who uses wash cloths, then 199 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 3: you should change your wash cloths, yes, every day. 200 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 4: And you probably should be at least every year, you know, 201 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 4: or if you're a crazy person like me, every six 202 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 4: months changing your washcloths. 203 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 3: Right, you should be changing your panties at least once 204 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 3: a year. 205 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 4: Like that means ones that you frequent and wear all 206 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 4: not the cute ones, not the fly ones when you like, 207 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 4: you know, get dressed up and all the things, but like, 208 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 4: you know, the panties you wear on a daily basis, yes, 209 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 4: because we all have those. You should be recycling those 210 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 4: like like the like that should be happening every six months. Yeah, right, 211 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 4: and these are things that we aren't aware of when right, 212 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 4: and even if you can't do it every six months, 213 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 4: at least do it once, you know, once once. 214 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: A year good refresh. 215 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, because you. 216 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 4: Know, bacteria, whether you watch it or not, it's still present. 217 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,359 Speaker 2: And then it goes like to even like your detergents 218 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 2: of her detergents. 219 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 3: Oh yeah. 220 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: And then the fabrics of your underwear. 221 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 4: Cotton, yeah, should be what you wear on a daily basis. Again, 222 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 4: when you're trying to be cute, be cute, you know, 223 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 4: wear your cute little les, do your thing, but on 224 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 4: a daily basis, you should. 225 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 3: You should wear a cotton panty. 226 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, our vaginas just aren't set up for 227 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 4: all these different types of materials. 228 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm learning so much, as like to have these 229 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 2: conversations and even like Instagram on how they'll let you know, 230 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 2: like even though tampons in the paths, which I love 231 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 2: that you use pure cotton. You know, like everything that 232 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 2: you that you put out is good for us down there, 233 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 2: you know, And as we get older, Like for me, 234 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 2: I'm getting older. I sweated at night, I sweat throughout 235 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 2: the day, and I keep those whites on me yes, 236 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 2: and they're good for everything. You can use those on 237 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 2: your face, your arms, everywhere everything. That's why I love 238 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 2: to see I've used them. I know, of course no, 239 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 2: but that is something that you have to keep with you. 240 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 2: You know, when you got this idea from your grandmother, 241 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: you built this with your brother. What was that like 242 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 2: working with him and building because I know a lot 243 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 2: of times family dynamics can be weird when it comes 244 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 2: to working. What was it like building this, this this 245 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 2: brand with him? 246 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 3: It was beautiful? 247 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you started in your apartment, where did you guys? 248 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 3: Start with this in my in my. 249 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 4: House, and then in his office and then back to 250 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 4: my house. 251 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 3: Wow. 252 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 4: And then and then we rented like a loft and 253 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 4: then he was moving, was moving and decided to get 254 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 4: an apartment, and then we we used the loft as 255 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 4: our where he lived is the office. And then yeah, 256 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 4: so that's amazing, but it was beautiful. 257 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 3: I love that. 258 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 2: Were there ever any moments where you were like all right? 259 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 2: Like of course, because I feel like everybody that works 260 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 2: in the family. 261 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: It's always like those little moments where you're like, I. 262 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 4: Think, whether you're working with family or not, those moments 263 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 4: are gonna happen. Yeah, and when and normally you spend 264 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 4: a lot of time with the people you work with, 265 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 4: you know, and so sometimes you're not gonna. 266 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 3: Agree, you know. 267 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,719 Speaker 4: Sometimes things are gonna be hard. Sometimes you're gonna go 268 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 4: through periods of not talking. So you know, like all 269 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 4: kinds of things can happen, no, for sure, Yeah, but 270 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,479 Speaker 4: when the love is there, you know it'll get back eventually. 271 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 272 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 3: Yes. 273 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 2: Being a honeypot was it came through a spiritual download. 274 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 2: How has your purpose for this brand grown over the years. 275 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 4: It's always been grounded in that it still is, you know, 276 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 4: because I you know, I just feel like it has 277 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 4: to be many times, anytime the ancestors gift us with anything, 278 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 4: I think that it has to be held with a 279 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 4: certain care or regard, you know, because normally when that happens, 280 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 4: there's probably a lot of purpose behind it, absolutely, you know, 281 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 4: And so it remains to be the most important part 282 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 4: of what we are and who we are. 283 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 3: You know. 284 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 4: Our goals here are to serve humanity, to serve humans first, 285 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 4: you know, to be good to each other, you know 286 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 4: what I mean, And so you know, and so it's 287 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 4: at the helm of what. 288 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 2: We do and piggybacks off my next question stand in 289 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 2: alignment with your why in an industry that's constantly shifting, 290 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 2: how do you stay focused on this is what we're doing, 291 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 2: but it's so many different things happening and shifting in 292 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 2: the beauty industry and in the wellness industry. 293 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 4: We work really hard to stay focused because it's, like 294 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 4: you said, it's easy because of the industry, and it's 295 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 4: just easy to want to do everything, but you can't 296 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 4: do everything. If you do everything, you're doing nothing, you know. 297 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 4: And so we've worked really hard to you know, to 298 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 4: create rules of engagement for ourselves for how we operate 299 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 4: as a company, right. We've worked really hard to create 300 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 4: rules of engagement for how we innovate products, right, for 301 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 4: how we speak to people, for how we sell things 302 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 4: to our retailers, for you know, And so everything is 303 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 4: pretty much done with a lot of order, you know, 304 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 4: kind of because it just has to be, you know, 305 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 4: because we do know that we are in an ever 306 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 4: changing environment, and that doesn't mean that things don't shift 307 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 4: and change, Because things shift and change all the time, 308 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 4: you know, especially when it comes to how we bring 309 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 4: products to market. 310 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 3: Sometimes we need to pull things up. 311 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 4: Sometimes we need to push things back, you know, because 312 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 4: you have to pay attention to what to what your 313 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 4: customers are telling. You have to pay attention to what's 314 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 4: happening in the world. You have to you know what 315 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 4: I mean, and so you know, and so things constantly 316 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 4: ebb and flow. But I think we really try to 317 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 4: keep our finger on the pulse and really have values 318 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 4: about us that we don't deviate from, you know, that 319 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 4: kind of just sit at the cornerstone of who we 320 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 4: are and what we do. 321 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 2: That when the noise gets lacked, I know, it can 322 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 2: get loud sometimes and you have to make these big 323 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 2: business decisions. 324 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: How do you stay true to your truth and say no? 325 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 2: Because I know, like sometimes when they throw the right 326 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 2: dollar amount or it's like this is an opportunity of 327 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 2: a lifetime, how do you like stay true to your 328 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 2: truth and how you say where it started was founded 329 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 2: off of. 330 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 4: I think, look, if something is thrown at us and 331 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 4: it makes sense and it can be done, yeah, then 332 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 4: we'll find a way to do it. But if something 333 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 4: is thrown at us, it can't just be about money. Yeah, 334 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 4: you know, it has to be It has to be layered. 335 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 4: It has to be able to serve the humans we serve. 336 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 4: It has to be able. Money is a part of 337 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 4: the conversation because it needs to be especially if we're 338 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 4: going to rush something or whatever the situation is, right, 339 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 4: it needs to be able to work operationally. It needs 340 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 4: to be able to you know, to flow through our 341 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 4: through our kind of through our system of how we 342 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 4: innovate and how we bring things to market. You know, 343 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 4: there's a whole system, like we're working to be two 344 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 4: three years ahead, right because when you're constantly kind of 345 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 4: hand to mouth, especially when it comes to creating products, 346 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 4: especially the way we do it, because we need to 347 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 4: clinically test and we need to you know, and sometimes 348 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 4: we have to like choose a different type of test 349 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 4: or you know what I mean. 350 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 3: And so it's so it can be. 351 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 4: Difficult, you know, but I think that it still has 352 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 4: to It still has to check the boxes. 353 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 3: Yea. 354 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 4: If it doesn't check the boxes, then it doesn't make sense. 355 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 4: Then we can't do it right exactly. You're you said 356 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 4: something clinically testing things. I'm really interested to know, like 357 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 4: what is the whole process of going from the kitchen 358 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 4: to the labs to the shelves, because it seems like 359 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 4: it's not. It's a million things happened before a product 360 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 4: goes on the shelf. Hundreds, if not thousands of man 361 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 4: hours have gone in. You know, we are validating with customers, 362 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 4: We're validating with our retailers. We're validating with data, We're 363 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 4: validating with gut, we're validating with team. You know, we're 364 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 4: running pilots to make sure that it's going to flow 365 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 4: right in production were before it even gets there where 366 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 4: we have to do probably multiple iterations of the thing 367 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 4: to make sure it has the right feel, it has 368 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 4: the right smell, it has the right amount of herbs 369 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 4: in it, it had you know, like. 370 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 3: You know, we have a. 371 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 4: Whole system for how we even start to vet things 372 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 4: right that that is a multi that's a multi kind 373 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 4: of prong process us. You know, like we have different 374 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 4: we have gate cards, and before a product can even 375 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 4: get to everything that I just described, it has to 376 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 4: go through a gate process. 377 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:10,959 Speaker 1: Oh wow. 378 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 4: And that you know, like we have to bring it 379 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 4: to market or we have to bring the idea up. 380 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 3: We have to love it, we have to you know, 381 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 3: we have to lock it. 382 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 4: We have to, like, there's so many things that happened, 383 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 4: so many things that happen. We have a brand team, 384 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 4: our you know, our brand team has to be involved. 385 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 4: Our sales team has to be involved, our ops team 386 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 4: has to be involved, Marketing has to be involved. 387 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 3: Campaigns have to be built. Like it's wild, you know, yeah, 388 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 3: it's crazy. 389 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 2: So how did like, as an entrepreneur, I'm just fascinated, 390 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 2: how do you go about building all those different departments 391 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 2: to make this machine run? 392 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 4: It takes time, you know, it takes time. It takes 393 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 4: it takes money, it takes years. 394 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it takes having the right. 395 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 4: It takes having the right leadership team and the right 396 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 4: strategic minds in the right place, you know, because when 397 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 4: you have that, when you have the top built, then 398 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 4: then it's easier to build out through the rest of 399 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 4: the organization because you have the right minds that are 400 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 4: hiring the right people. 401 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 3: You know. 402 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 4: But it takes time, you know, I mean it, what's 403 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 4: the same Rome wasn't built in a day, right, I 404 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 4: mean we're we started in twenty twelve. Was this thirteen 405 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 4: years later? You know, we're just now in the past. 406 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 4: Couple of years able to have a brand team and 407 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 4: you know, like we've always had a sales team and 408 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 4: a marketing team, and you know, but we've we've really 409 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 4: built out a beautiful marketing structure that kind of operates 410 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 4: like an agency kind of, you know. But again, it 411 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 4: just takes time, and you have to you have to 412 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 4: you have to let the time. You kind of have 413 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 4: to let it take the time that it's gonna take 414 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 4: because there's a lot that you need to know before 415 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 4: you even get there. Yes, you know, you know, and 416 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 4: so it's it's I think it requires a lot of patience, 417 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 4: you know, but it's really important because that's one of 418 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 4: the hardest things right about being in business is having 419 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 4: the right team. 420 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: Yes, so important. 421 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 4: We've always been lucky to find the right people at 422 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 4: the right time based on where we were, you know, 423 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 4: and when we when we worked with VMG, which was 424 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 4: you know, our first private equity fund, not our first 425 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 4: round of funding. They weren't our first investors, but they 426 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 4: really they really brought a ton of expertise and they 427 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 4: were able to really wrapped their arms around us, not 428 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 4: that our previous investors couldn't. 429 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 3: But VMG just had a. 430 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 4: They had they had an internal head hunting service. They 431 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 4: had access to really expensive data they had they had 432 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 4: the access to the need to the things that we 433 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 4: needed that we wouldn't have been able to afford, right you, 434 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 4: You cannot afford a head hunting service at when you're 435 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 4: eight or ten million dollar business, right like, like you 436 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 4: maybe can do it for one or two employees, but 437 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 4: it's just hard. 438 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 3: It's hard to do, you know. 439 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 4: And when we got with them, that's how big we were, 440 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 4: you know, or small we were rather. 441 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 3: You know, a big or small. 442 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 4: I guess it is relative based on what the size 443 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 4: of your businesses. But for in CpG, that's a that's 444 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 4: a pretty small business, you know. And so because they 445 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 4: were able to come in and really help us to 446 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 4: build structure around our team and help us to build 447 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 4: structure around the way we built the business, help us 448 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 4: to build structure around our operations. Because in our type 449 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 4: of business, because we sit in all different parts of 450 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 4: the regulatory system through the FDA, you know, regulatory is 451 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 4: really important and that really lives in ops, you know. 452 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 4: And so I think it's having it's not necessarily always 453 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 4: about you knowing what you need, but having the right 454 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 4: people surrounding you that, you know, which they were the 455 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 4: they were the type of. 456 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 3: Investors that it wasn't just about money. 457 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, we were at the stage in our 458 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 4: business where, you know, like we didn't we didn't just 459 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 4: need money, We needed all the things because that's what 460 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 4: we were about to hit scale, you know, and we 461 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 4: did after that, you know, and we were poison. 462 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 3: We weren't ready for it, but we got ready. 463 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 1: Got ready. How did you get ready for that? 464 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 2: And what did that pressure feel like knowing that it's 465 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 2: here and we're not ready at. 466 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 3: They felt wild? 467 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 4: But we've always been able to do things we weren't 468 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 4: necessarily technically ready for. I think I think we were 469 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 4: ready to do it because if if we weren't ready, 470 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 4: the opportunity wouldn't have presented itself. 471 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 3: But when you looked at the business. 472 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 4: Where we were as a company, and like the way 473 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 4: that the way our team was set up and all 474 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 4: that kind of stuff, like if you were just looking 475 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 4: at us, you would be like, oh, y'all are ready? 476 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Yeah? 477 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 4: In fact, you know, uh, we had we had talked, 478 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 4: we had pitched VMG at first, and they had just 479 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 4: they had told us that it wasn't the right time. 480 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 4: And then we got that, we got that commercial with Target, 481 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 4: and then it went viral and then they were like. 482 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 3: Yep, you know what we said. You know what we 483 00:25:58,359 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 3: said it one time. 484 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 4: You know it's probably time, you know, And it was 485 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 4: because our business tripled that next year, you know. 486 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 3: It was it was a wild so so like even 487 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 3: though we weren't. 488 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: Ready, we got ready. 489 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 4: And I think, I think when it comes to business, 490 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 4: that's the important part, is that you know that you 491 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 4: have the ability to get ready and do whatever it's 492 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 4: gonna take. And that's hard because not everybody is set 493 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 4: up that way. 494 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: They're not. You know, that's so true. 495 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 2: Yes, from the time that you got the ingredients, how 496 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 2: fast did you jump on it and take that leap 497 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 2: of faith to say, I'm gonna quit my job at 498 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 2: Whole Foods and I'm going for this full throttle. 499 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 3: None of us quit our jobs. We didn't. We didn't. 500 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 3: None of us quit our jobs. I was the first person. 501 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 4: Well, Antoine was working full time, Honeypot, me, Si, Linda, 502 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 4: We all still had our full time work. And by 503 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 4: this time I wasn't working at Whole Foods anymore. 504 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 3: I was a broker. 505 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 4: And then I had gotten a job as a as 506 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 4: a as an area sales manager for a company called 507 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 4: Rhythm Superfoods, and that was actually my last job. I 508 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 4: didn't stop working that job until we were seven months 509 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 4: into target. 510 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 3: Wow. 511 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: See, I love to hear that because a lot of 512 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: people think that. 513 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 4: You definitely shouldn't quit your job, right, Yeah, honey Pop 514 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 4: wouldn't have been able. It couldn't have. 515 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 3: I don't believe that you should quit. 516 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 4: Your job until your business can pay you at bare minimum, 517 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 4: at least eighty percent of what your current salary is 518 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 4: enough to get by. You know, I think my salary 519 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 4: at the time was, I don't know, fifty thousand wasn't 520 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 4: a lot of money. 521 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 3: I had a job, though, and. 522 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 4: So unless honey Pot was going to be able to 523 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 4: pay me that, then I couldn't quit my job because, 524 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 4: you know, because I needed to eat, I needed to 525 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 4: keep a roof. You know, I was in I was 526 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 4: in a marriage then. I'm completely out of that marriage now, 527 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 4: thank god, But you know I was. I was doing 528 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 4: a lot at that time. You know, if I was 529 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 4: a just rely on honeypot, I would have been it 530 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 4: was already desperate situation. 531 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 3: It would have been even more desperate. 532 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 4: And that's not really a position you want to put 533 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 4: yourself in when you're running. 534 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 3: A business, No, for sure. 535 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 2: So we talk about going from fifty thousand dollars a 536 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 2: year to millions, and I love talking about financial literacy. 537 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 2: What were some of the things that you had to 538 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 2: learn fast from going from that much money to millions 539 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 2: of dollars and what were the adjustments that you had 540 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 2: to make. 541 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 3: I'm still adjusting. 542 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, I can imagine. 543 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: It's a lot. 544 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is a lot. But I'm grateful, you know. 545 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 3: I think. 546 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 4: You know that's saying money, more money, more problems. I 547 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 4: won't say it's more money, more problems. But things present 548 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 4: themselves based on where you are in your life, and 549 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 4: you know, and you just have to do what you 550 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 4: have to do. 551 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 3: You know. 552 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 4: I've had several things present themselves and I've been able 553 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 4: to handle it and take care of it. But the 554 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 4: good thing about when you are a multi millionaire is 555 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 4: that you're not necessarily touching your money. Your money sits 556 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 4: in the market, and you borrow against your money right 557 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 4: while your money is growing, and then and then you 558 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 4: you know, and then you you you pay your your 559 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 4: your low interest rate, and you just keep it pushing, 560 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 4: you know, and and then you pay it off as 561 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 4: you go. But you don't put yourself in a position 562 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 4: where you're where you're spending your own cash. Sometimes you 563 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 4: might have to dip into it, and that's that's okay. 564 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 4: But I think that that's a positive adjustment. 565 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:11,479 Speaker 3: You know. 566 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 4: That was something that I had to learn that I 567 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 4: had to wrap my mind around because you know, I 568 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 4: you know, I come not from nothing, but you know, 569 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 4: my mom never had money. 570 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. We were homeless when I 571 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 3: was a kid. 572 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 4: I was homeless when I you know, at one time 573 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 4: when I moved to Atlanta, you know, for we were 574 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 4: homeless for a couple of months. 575 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 3: You know. 576 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 4: So I'm saying all that to say that, like, I 577 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 4: know what it is to have like to be at 578 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 4: bottom at zero, you know, And so it makes you 579 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 4: value what it is when you have amassed wealth. 580 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 3: But also what. 581 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 4: Happens when that happens, which is interesting, is you have 582 00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 4: to work with yourself to not have the mentality of 583 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 4: you know. 584 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 3: Of when you were rubbing wooden Nicholas together. 585 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you have and I don't have a 586 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 4: scarcity mindset at all. I have a very abundant mindset. 587 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 4: But that doesn't mean that every now and again some 588 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,719 Speaker 4: scarcity creeps in for a little bit of fear creeps in, 589 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,239 Speaker 4: or you forget what you have or how to or like, 590 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 4: you know, I don't necessarily know how to handle all 591 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 4: this like it's new to me, very new, you know. 592 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 3: And so. 593 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 4: You know, I'm just I'm growing as I you know, 594 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 4: just doing my best. 595 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 3: I love it. 596 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 2: Who are some of the people that you reached out 597 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 2: to say, Hey, like, I've I recruit all this income, 598 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 2: now I need help trying to manage it. 599 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 3: Well. 600 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 4: I was able to set us up pretty good with 601 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 4: our trust and all the stuff, which I'm grateful for. 602 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 4: And then you know, you just have you have your 603 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 4: wealth advisors around you. You have you know, you should 604 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 4: keep other people around you, other kind of advisors that 605 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 4: you can talk to, because you should never just trust 606 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 4: what one person is saying. You should always get a 607 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 4: couple different opinions. You should always be taking your portfolio 608 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 4: and maybe taking it somewhere else for somebody to look 609 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 4: at so they can be like, hey, you know, maybe 610 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 4: you should think about it like X, Y and Z. 611 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 3: That doesn't mean, you have to move it, but. 612 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,959 Speaker 4: You should, you know what I mean, Like you should 613 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 4: you should keep yourself aware of what's going on. And 614 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 4: you also should make sure that the people that are 615 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 4: managing your cash value it and appreciate it, because you 616 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 4: can take that anywhere, you know. But just having the 617 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 4: right people around you, I think is important. And one 618 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 4: thing that Side taught me a long time ago is 619 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 4: to kind of forget about my bread. So really, honestly, 620 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 4: unless it's a big thing, that shit don't even exist, 621 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 4: you know. I just live off of what I make, 622 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 4: you know, you know, and so and if and if 623 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 4: I need something, which is normally it has to be 624 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 4: a big thing. Yeah, and normally that big thing is 625 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 4: another asset or something like that. So really I'm just 626 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 4: taking one asset and moving into another asset, you know. 627 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 4: You know, And so that that's the way I think 628 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 4: about it. But that's very rudimentary, you know. But but yeah, 629 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 4: but thank you for asking. 630 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'm telling you. 631 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 2: I'm this is because I'm a growing entrepreneur making a 632 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 2: lot more money than I've ever made before. So I 633 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 2: love asking yes and having the community community to ask, 634 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 2: so like to have access to you to be able 635 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 2: to say, hey, bea what did you do? 636 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 3: What are you doing? Yes? Exactly, yeah, I mean. 637 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 4: We we all each want to teach one absolutely, yeah, 638 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 4: definitely don't. 639 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 3: I don't know anything at all. I'm just doing my best, 640 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 3: you know. 641 00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, you're doing an amazing job. 642 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 3: Yes. 643 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 2: When it comes to owning beauty brands, especially in the 644 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 2: black space, oftentimes when owners sell, our community says all 645 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 2: they sold out instead of selling up. You know, it 646 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,760 Speaker 2: is very much ridiculous. You sold honeypot for three hundred 647 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 2: and eighty million dollars, mind blowing. Take me to that 648 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 2: moment when you inside decided, hey it's time. 649 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: Who approached you? How did it like? How did it 650 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: come about? 651 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 3: So here's the thing you need to know. 652 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,800 Speaker 4: Because we built, because we we had several rounds of funding. 653 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 4: One of those investors was a venture capital. One of 654 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 4: those investors was a private equity fund. We have the 655 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 4: original investors from the beginning, right. Nobody is investing money 656 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 4: in your business to just let it sit there come 657 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 4: nobody is so. So if you invest your money in 658 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 4: the stock market, you invested in the stock market for what. 659 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 4: If you have a four oh one K, you invested 660 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 4: in the four oh one k for what because you 661 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 4: want it to grow, so it grows hopefully you have 662 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 4: investments that have dividends and pay you back. Hopefully you 663 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,240 Speaker 4: have enough even if you just had one hundred thousand 664 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 4: dollars in the market. And if you know, if you 665 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 4: had one hundred thousand dollars in the market, easy numbers, 666 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 4: and you're able to get I don't know, seven percent 667 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 4: on that, that's seven thousand dollars, right, ten percent on 668 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 4: that's ten thousand dollars. Yeah, that's that's money that you're 669 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 4: getting back every year if the market's doing well. Right, So, 670 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 4: having a business and having an investor is the same 671 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 4: exact thing. But the only thing is is these investors 672 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 4: have to wait much longer than putting their money in 673 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 4: the market. Right they could they could put their bread 674 00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 4: in the market and it could just grow and then 675 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 4: they don't even have to think about it. 676 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 3: They don't have to be involved. Or what if a 677 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 3: business fails? 678 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 4: What if it doesn't, but if there's terrible moments, what 679 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 4: if something anything can happen? Right, So when when I 680 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 4: hear that that statement, or even when I when I've 681 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 4: experienced it and passed it makes me a little bit 682 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 4: sad because we should be happy because it does not 683 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 4: happen every day that you know. 684 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 3: And even what we did it wasn't a full sell. 685 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 4: It was it was a strategic It was a partnership 686 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:41,760 Speaker 4: with another public private equity fund, right, but we needed 687 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,280 Speaker 4: to make our investors that had been along the journey 688 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 4: with us since the beginning, we needed to make them whole. 689 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 4: So when it comes to who, you know, how did 690 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 4: it come about? It had to come about because when 691 00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 4: you sign with a private equity fund, when they invest money, 692 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 4: they need that return on their investment within four to 693 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 4: five years. 694 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 3: We were coming up on that time. 695 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 4: You never want to be in a position where you've 696 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 4: signed a contract and and and it said that you 697 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 4: have to wrap it up within four to five years, 698 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 4: either i PO and or selling. But nobody they don't 699 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 4: really want you to i PO. They want you to 700 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 4: sell because they want to get their money back now. 701 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 3: And so. 702 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 4: You never want to be in a position where they 703 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,240 Speaker 4: are on you to do the thing. 704 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 3: Right. 705 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 4: You never want to be in a position where you 706 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,439 Speaker 4: sign this, you sign this, it's not your choice. We're 707 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 4: going to take you to market. Not that they would 708 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 4: have done that, but they could have done that, absolutely right, 709 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 4: and we didn't want to put ourselves in that situation. Plus, 710 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 4: once your business gets to you know, high numbers, you know, 711 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 4: in the in the early nine figures, that's also when 712 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 4: it's time because you don't want your business to be 713 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 4: so big that you can't find the right partner for 714 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 4: the time that you're in business. Ends, right, We were 715 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 4: lucky that we found a private equity partner, in the 716 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 4: private equity partner that we did, because that gave us 717 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 4: the opportunity to have a second bite at the apple. 718 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 3: Right. 719 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 4: And so you know, I'm giving you details so that 720 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 4: we can understand as a community what these things look like. 721 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, because and that they're speaking from ignorance because they 722 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:32,839 Speaker 2: don't know. 723 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 4: Don't understand what it looks like. And that's okay. But 724 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,800 Speaker 4: when you don't understand, say you don't understand, yes, don't 725 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:44,399 Speaker 4: hold founders to a to a standard that you think 726 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 4: is right in your mind. But you have no idea. 727 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 4: Nobody's selling out. We're just doing what people in business do. 728 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 4: Take my color out of your mind, take my vagina 729 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:59,959 Speaker 4: out of your mind. I'm a businessman like anybody else, right, right, 730 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 4: And you're a business person like anybody else, right, and 731 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 4: nobody should expect you to do anything because you're a 732 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 4: black woman. These are constructs that aren't real, right. So 733 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 4: we are doing what we have to do. We're minding 734 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 4: our business, right, we're growing our company. 735 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, y'all. 736 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 4: Anybody that's in business, hopefully you're in it to make money. 737 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 3: So that's what business is for. Right. 738 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 4: When you look at what it takes to get to 739 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 4: even the level of success that we are at now. 740 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 4: The amount of stress, the amount of time, the amount 741 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 4: of energy, the amount of manpower, the amount of money, 742 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 4: the amount of investors, the amount of airplanes, the amount 743 00:39:54,520 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 4: of hotels, the amount of eating out, the amount of weight, 744 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 4: the the amount of sacrifice that it takes to do this. 745 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 3: It should make you rich. 746 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 4: That's the point, he said, Listen, that's the point. 747 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:20,240 Speaker 3: What is the point. 748 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 4: I'm supposed to just put myself through slavery and broke 749 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 4: and be broke. And I'm not belittling what our ancestors 750 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 4: had to go through. But if I was doing this 751 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 4: just to do it, that would be a version of 752 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,800 Speaker 4: enslaving myself. I'm sorry, and I'm not a slave to anything. 753 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 4: I'm definitely not a slave to what people think about 754 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 4: me when I'm just doing what I'm supposed to do. 755 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 3: Right. 756 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 4: If you decide that you don't want to sell your business, 757 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 4: that is your business, but you don't tell me what 758 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 4: to do with mine, right, because it's none of yours 759 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 4: your business, it's mine. 760 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 3: Right. 761 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 4: If you decide that you want to have a business, 762 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,879 Speaker 4: it's around for the next hundred years that you only own. 763 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 3: Do that. Do that? 764 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 4: That's that's beautiful that you want to do that. I 765 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:18,319 Speaker 4: want to I want to build dope things. And this 766 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,880 Speaker 4: isn't the only dope thing I want to do, right 767 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 4: and so, but but it's probably the main thing that 768 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 4: will that will help me to amass the wealth that 769 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 4: will make it possible for me to do the other 770 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 4: things that I dream of doing right. Right, So then 771 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 4: in those other things, I can just be creative. I 772 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 4: don't have to do it trying to trying to be 773 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 4: wealthy because I'm already wealthy. And I'm not saying that's 774 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 4: a flex I'm just saying that because it's true truth. 775 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 4: I can just do dope shit with my friends because 776 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 4: that's what I want to do, right, not because I 777 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 4: need this to I need this to need. I don't 778 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 4: want to operate like that. But if you want to 779 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 4: operate like that, do that. I don't want to live 780 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:11,720 Speaker 4: and struggle. I like money, Yes, I like having multiple houses. 781 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 4: I like traveling, I like you understand. I like beautiful art. 782 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 4: I love beautiful clothes. I like somebody cooking me food. 783 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,880 Speaker 4: I like getting my house cleaned every day. What does 784 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:24,799 Speaker 4: it take to do that? 785 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 3: Money? I like that. I need that. 786 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 4: Right and I've experienced that, and there's no back sies 787 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 4: on that. Yes, true, so you know, but that's what 788 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:43,799 Speaker 4: I want for my life. And that's nobody's business but mine. 789 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:48,280 Speaker 4: So nobody should have any say so about what I'm 790 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:52,880 Speaker 4: deciding to do. It's just not cool, you know. And 791 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 4: I feel like we need to do a better job. 792 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 4: I met with my best on my best friends her 793 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,920 Speaker 4: mom is like a meditation coach, and we were talking 794 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:08,319 Speaker 4: about we were talking about meditation, but how there's a 795 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,360 Speaker 4: lot of things that you need to do before you 796 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 4: even get to sit down to the place where you're sitting. 797 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,399 Speaker 4: There's so many different types of meditations that you need 798 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 4: to do before you even sit down to meditate. 799 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 3: You need to you need to let go of some baggage. 800 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 4: You need, you know, like there's some things that you 801 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 4: need to address, you need to understand when you're what 802 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 4: are the things you're doing when you're not minding your 803 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 4: own business? Come on, right, what's the what's the she? 804 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:40,400 Speaker 4: What does she say? It was like emotional something. She 805 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 4: she was saying, how we like, we're in conversation with 806 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 4: somebody with a friend and they're telling us how something's wrong, 807 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 4: and we just want to jump in and fix it. 808 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,240 Speaker 4: And she's like, that's none of your business unless somebody 809 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,319 Speaker 4: ask you. 810 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 3: You should just mind, George, because. 811 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,840 Speaker 4: You know what, you probably don't even have the emotional 812 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 4: bandwidth to do that at And it's so true, you 813 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,439 Speaker 4: know so when so, I'm not trying to just I'm 814 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 4: not trying to be mean or disrespectful, but I just 815 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:14,280 Speaker 4: think whenever any of us as black people are able 816 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 4: to be successful and are able to grow our companies 817 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 4: and scale them and make millions of dollars and sell 818 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 4: them or I p O them or whatever it is 819 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:27,400 Speaker 4: that we're trying to do, that should only be good 820 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:32,400 Speaker 4: for our culture. That should never be And sure, whoever you, 821 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,760 Speaker 4: whoever goes in to buy it, sure they may change 822 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:41,719 Speaker 4: something right. But change is inevitable, you know. It just 823 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 4: it just is, you know, and you know, and and 824 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 4: so I just think that we need to do a 825 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:53,760 Speaker 4: better job as a community, lifting each other up, not 826 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 4: not putting these expectations on one another, that that we 827 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 4: wouldn't put ourselves, we wouldn't hold to ourselves. It's easy 828 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 4: to hold an you know, to hold a mirror up 829 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 4: to somebody else and tell them what you think they 830 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 4: should be doing. 831 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 3: But it's not easy to look in it, you know. 832 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 4: And I just I just want us to do better, 833 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,320 Speaker 4: you know, because I listen. Because let me tell you something. 834 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 4: I'm not a I don't sell out. That's not what 835 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,400 Speaker 4: I do. I'm true to myself. I'm true, you know. 836 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 4: I'm true to myself. I'm true to my ancestors. I'm 837 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 4: a good person. I'm good to people. Sometimes I'm too good, 838 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:42,280 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And I know that about myself. 839 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 4: So there's nothing that anybody can say to me that's 840 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 4: gonna make me think different. But it is something. When 841 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 4: millions of people are putting their energy in your direction, 842 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,879 Speaker 4: we need to be more responsible with that because that's 843 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 4: not very kind. That we need to do better about 844 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,920 Speaker 4: this cancel culture stuff. We need to do better about it. 845 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,840 Speaker 4: Because when when all these lies are spread in this big, 846 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 4: massive game of telephone is happening, there is a person 847 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,520 Speaker 4: at the other end of that. And you should treat 848 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,799 Speaker 4: people how you want to be treated, man, and you 849 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 4: should also treat them the way that they want to 850 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:23,719 Speaker 4: be treated. And nobody, nobody wants millions of people, millions 851 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 4: and millions of people talking about them and their business 852 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,280 Speaker 4: and their company and what they're doing and they sold 853 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 4: it and they did this, and you know, or or 854 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 4: all the other lies that can spin out of that. 855 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 4: Nobody wants that. 856 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:40,479 Speaker 3: Right. 857 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 4: I'm an EmPATH, I'm an intuitive. I can feel all 858 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 4: that stuff and it just doesn't feel good. 859 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna ask you, how does it make 860 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:47,879 Speaker 1: you feel? 861 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 3: It just feels it feels I don't. 862 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 4: It just feels weird, you know, like it's like you 863 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,840 Speaker 4: don't even know why you're feeling the way you're feeling 864 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,920 Speaker 4: kind of feeling, you know, you know. And then not 865 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 4: only that, it's hard for the people who have to 866 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 4: who sit and so who sit in our social media, 867 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 4: who have to cite, who have to siphon through these terrible, terrible, 868 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:20,919 Speaker 4: terrible words, and and and and people just being mean 869 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,920 Speaker 4: for no reason. What we what we would will allow 870 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:29,839 Speaker 4: ourselves to do in a group is wild, you know, 871 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 4: And so I I would just ask. And that's why 872 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 4: every time, you know, we've had any viral moment or 873 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:42,360 Speaker 4: anything like that, we're always told by pr you know, 874 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 4: you should just be quiet. And I'm saying, but those 875 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 4: days are dead, man, because because social media is alive, 876 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 4: and if you don't get out and say something, right, 877 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,279 Speaker 4: you have to be careful about what you say. You 878 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,719 Speaker 4: shouldn't you shouldn't feed into it, but you should, you 879 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:05,799 Speaker 4: you know. But speaking your truth, you know, I think 880 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,240 Speaker 4: is important and not speaking it because you expect something 881 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,760 Speaker 4: in return, right, But I think you actually saying what's 882 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 4: real is important, you know, because you don't want people 883 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,480 Speaker 4: just coming up with their own narratives. Some people may 884 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 4: not care, but I care because what we do is important. 885 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 4: The business we're in is important. We make products for 886 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 4: people's vaginas that matters. That matters, and the energy that 887 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 4: is sewed into these products matter. So my team cannot 888 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:42,719 Speaker 4: be their their vibration can't be low because people have 889 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,839 Speaker 4: heard a lie and and and and are doing all 890 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,439 Speaker 4: kinds of wild things on the Internet and saying all 891 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 4: kinds of wild things on social media. 892 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 3: At least what we can do is. 893 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,759 Speaker 4: Say our piece and then we can leave it, you know, 894 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 4: you know, because it's just important and it's hard. You know, 895 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,600 Speaker 4: this work is hard to do, especially when you're doing 896 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:11,160 Speaker 4: it with care, yes, you know, and love and like 897 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 4: when you're really putting good energy into it for real, right, 898 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 4: you know, so that when these so that when people 899 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,200 Speaker 4: use these products. I'm not trying to be super estheteric, 900 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,799 Speaker 4: because not everybody believes in the things I believe in. 901 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,600 Speaker 4: They don't have to when they use these products. These 902 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,279 Speaker 4: products are healing for that reason, not just for the 903 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 4: ingredients that are in the bottle, but because of all 904 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,480 Speaker 4: the things that surrounded it, that went into it, you know, 905 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,800 Speaker 4: so you know, not to I'm sorry for the tangentcy. 906 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,799 Speaker 1: No, this is no people need to hear that. 907 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:42,480 Speaker 3: It's real. 908 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so true. 909 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 2: You talked about the stress, the weight of carrying all this, 910 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 2: and I want to get into that because I'm also 911 00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,879 Speaker 2: big on mental health and just hearing you talk it's 912 00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,400 Speaker 2: almost like a therapy session, like you're letting it all out, 913 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:03,160 Speaker 2: and I want to know as you're going through these 914 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,279 Speaker 2: emotions and trying to carry all this weight, what do 915 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:07,160 Speaker 2: you do for you? 916 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 3: I do a lot of stuff, you know. I I. 917 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,040 Speaker 4: Have to have a lot of order in my house, 918 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:23,760 Speaker 4: which we're going through renovations right now, so that's hard. 919 00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:29,320 Speaker 3: But it's working out. Eating well is really important. Drinking water. 920 00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,360 Speaker 3: You and I both are like fanatics about. 921 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:36,479 Speaker 4: Not drinking out of plastic. Yes, I stay on top 922 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,160 Speaker 4: of it. With my health, I work out multiple times 923 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:47,400 Speaker 4: per week. I you know, I go to the chiropractor. 924 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,840 Speaker 4: I got to do better about that, get active puncture. 925 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:57,279 Speaker 4: I have. I had a therapist, but I kind of 926 00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,719 Speaker 4: go in and out of having a therapist because like 927 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,040 Speaker 4: I feel like there's seasons in my life where I 928 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:04,799 Speaker 4: need it, and then there's seasons in my life where 929 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:09,720 Speaker 4: I don't just want to be I do different types 930 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,200 Speaker 4: of therapies like oxygen therapy. 931 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:17,600 Speaker 3: I do when I can, red light therapy or. 932 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 4: You know, I got out of practice of like sitting 933 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:29,600 Speaker 4: down and being quiet is because things were really busy. 934 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,560 Speaker 3: I just kind of wou get to it. 935 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:37,279 Speaker 4: But I'm now working on, uh, change creating whatever my 936 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,759 Speaker 4: practice is now, not going back to what it was, 937 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:44,920 Speaker 4: but wherever. You know, I'm I'm in a really beautiful relationship. 938 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,319 Speaker 4: I spend time with my family when I can. I 939 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:52,479 Speaker 4: have a beautiful dog, Zero, spend a lot of time 940 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 4: with her, you know, spend a lot of time with 941 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 4: my amazing team, you know. 942 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:04,720 Speaker 3: And you know, I'm just I'm just I just do stuff. Yeah, 943 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,320 Speaker 3: you know, I just try to take care of myself. Yeah, 944 00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,680 Speaker 3: you know, go to bed, take. 945 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,560 Speaker 1: Baths, Listen, going to bed. 946 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,239 Speaker 2: That is so big because when I were as entrepreneurs, 947 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,239 Speaker 2: our brain is always going with creative thinkers. Sometimes it's 948 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,040 Speaker 2: hard to shut this thing off, you know. Yeah, So 949 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,399 Speaker 2: getting that rest. Last week, we were going, going going, 950 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,960 Speaker 2: I've been filming and this left I would not stop twitching. 951 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,120 Speaker 2: Finally it stopped because I took a few days just 952 00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 2: to sleep, like, didn't get at it, just literally slept 953 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:36,399 Speaker 2: and eight and that was it. 954 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was like my body was like this 955 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:39,400 Speaker 1: is what we need. I needed that. 956 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. I stopped drinking a time me too. 957 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,640 Speaker 1: I LetGo of hard liquor. That helped me a lot. 958 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,160 Speaker 4: Yeah that doesn't mean I don't drink, but it's literally 959 00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 4: like maybe a couple times a month. 960 00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:52,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 961 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,399 Speaker 1: Moderation is good. Yeah, I agree, you. 962 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,279 Speaker 3: Know, I don't. I don't really. I don't smoke the 963 00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,319 Speaker 3: green anymore, Like I don't do any of it. Yeah, 964 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:03,799 Speaker 3: you know, I want to be well, yes, and I 965 00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:04,720 Speaker 3: want to grow old. 966 00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,160 Speaker 2: But there's something in your life that sparked those moments 967 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:10,640 Speaker 2: where you're like, I don't want to drink anymore. 968 00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:11,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to smoke anymore. 969 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,400 Speaker 4: I think some of those things just kind of happen naturally. 970 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:16,800 Speaker 3: I've never been. 971 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,319 Speaker 4: A great drinker, like I've always been person where it's 972 00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,560 Speaker 4: like a cute drinking like that looks cute. 973 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,359 Speaker 3: I try it, and I never finish it. 974 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:31,840 Speaker 4: I think, just as my wellness journey has kind of intensified, Yeah, 975 00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:38,280 Speaker 4: you know. And it's also like the company I keep, 976 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,839 Speaker 4: you know, I feel like you are who you hang with. 977 00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,879 Speaker 4: So the company I keep also doesn't do a lot 978 00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,719 Speaker 4: of those things, you know what I'm saying. And so, 979 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:54,440 Speaker 4: you know, I just think as you're taking care of yourself, 980 00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,680 Speaker 4: you're paying attention to your body and how it feels, 981 00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,000 Speaker 4: and when when something doesn't feel right, like I don't 982 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,000 Speaker 4: really have the luxury of being sick. 983 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:05,360 Speaker 3: I have things to do. 984 00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:11,839 Speaker 4: And so, you know, so like it's like I can go, 985 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:13,759 Speaker 4: I can go out, or I can go to bed. 986 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,200 Speaker 4: I'm probably going to go to bed, you know, and 987 00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,279 Speaker 4: then a couple of times a month or something, I'll 988 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,920 Speaker 4: go out, you know. But you know, but I but 989 00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,799 Speaker 4: you know another thing that I love sitting down and 990 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:25,480 Speaker 4: watching TV. 991 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:27,040 Speaker 3: What are your favorite shows. 992 00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,120 Speaker 4: It's like one of my favorite pastimes because it's like brainless. 993 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:36,400 Speaker 3: Yes, Godfather, Parlem it's so good in this new season. 994 00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,320 Speaker 1: Yes, I love that show. 995 00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:42,000 Speaker 4: Yes, I love where it's going because they really set 996 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,400 Speaker 4: it up to be able to continue to have seasons. Yes, 997 00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:50,759 Speaker 4: you know, I like British detective shows so good. 998 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,879 Speaker 2: The writing on those shows is so good. Yes, it's 999 00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:55,319 Speaker 2: so good. Yeah. 1000 00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,880 Speaker 3: I don't know. I just you know, I just I 1001 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,080 Speaker 3: like to I just like the chill man. 1002 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:02,040 Speaker 1: Are you a binger? 1003 00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:03,320 Speaker 2: Do you like shows where you just sit there and 1004 00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,040 Speaker 2: watch episode after episode after episode. 1005 00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,160 Speaker 3: Depends if it's a weekend. 1006 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,840 Speaker 1: Okay, I might be yeah, if you have time. Yeah, 1007 00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:10,279 Speaker 1: but like. 1008 00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,279 Speaker 3: During the week we try to be responsible. 1009 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:16,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then we've we've been like me and my partner, 1010 00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,120 Speaker 4: we've been like keeping our phone out of the bedroom. 1011 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:19,600 Speaker 3: That's new. 1012 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,960 Speaker 2: Okay, So I can right, So do you wake up 1013 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,120 Speaker 2: to like do you run like when the moment you 1014 00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,040 Speaker 2: wake up and you're like, okay, I gotta get to 1015 00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:29,320 Speaker 2: the phone, or do you take. 1016 00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:30,560 Speaker 3: A make up and look at the time. 1017 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:35,239 Speaker 4: Because our dog she's not technically a puppy because she's 1018 00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,920 Speaker 4: like eight months old, but she's still a puppy. 1019 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,279 Speaker 3: She's still a baby, you know, and. 1020 00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,560 Speaker 4: So she wakes up early sometimes a couple of times 1021 00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:47,359 Speaker 4: a night, and so you know, so I might find 1022 00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:48,919 Speaker 4: myself like checking the time. 1023 00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:52,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm getting more used to it, and I 1024 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,680 Speaker 3: actually we have a house phone. 1025 00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,160 Speaker 2: You are probably one of the only people in the 1026 00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:58,319 Speaker 2: waking out in the world. 1027 00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,520 Speaker 1: But like no, I'm very people still have a house phone. 1028 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,879 Speaker 4: Have a house phone, and there's like there's a way 1029 00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:05,280 Speaker 4: you can do it just with the internet. 1030 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,080 Speaker 3: You're okay, yeah, oh cool, look. 1031 00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:09,719 Speaker 2: It up because you know how like on different like 1032 00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,120 Speaker 2: forms you have to feel that they ask you the 1033 00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,520 Speaker 2: home fun I'm like, yeah, cell phone is the thing. 1034 00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:18,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, I think I think having the house 1035 00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:18,800 Speaker 4: phone helps. 1036 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,200 Speaker 3: So like if it's really an emergency. 1037 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,000 Speaker 4: But the people who need to get to you can yeah, man, 1038 00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,680 Speaker 4: but it's you know, it's so good, yeah, because it's 1039 00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:28,640 Speaker 4: not really good sleeping with all that. 1040 00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,759 Speaker 1: That's what I'm hearing the NF and I was. 1041 00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,799 Speaker 2: Mine was literally like right at my knight stand, like 1042 00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:35,160 Speaker 2: probably this far from my head. 1043 00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:39,080 Speaker 4: And they say it's not good Bluetooth and all that stuff. 1044 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:40,160 Speaker 3: It is, it's not really great. 1045 00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm finding out the wireless routers aren't good, and 1046 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:43,919 Speaker 2: I've got those all over the house. 1047 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, Lord, have mercy everything. 1048 00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,719 Speaker 3: It's killing yes, because our bodies aren't set up for 1049 00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,200 Speaker 3: all of this. Yeah, our bodies. 1050 00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,120 Speaker 4: Aren't set up for all this five G and you know, 1051 00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:54,360 Speaker 4: it's just not set up for that. 1052 00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:55,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1053 00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:59,160 Speaker 4: So it's you know, so I just being cognizant of that. 1054 00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,920 Speaker 4: I don't wear the of the. 1055 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,879 Speaker 1: The electric earbuds. Yeah, the cord ones. 1056 00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,160 Speaker 3: I'm old school with it. 1057 00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,919 Speaker 2: It's not easy, but it's not I recently bought one 1058 00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,120 Speaker 2: with the cord and my friends make fun of me. 1059 00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,680 Speaker 2: And I was telling a friend of mine, Brenda. She 1060 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,400 Speaker 2: was like, do you have the cord earbuds? And I 1061 00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,200 Speaker 2: said yeah, And I was like, because they're really bad 1062 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,080 Speaker 2: for you, and she was like, oh my gosh. And 1063 00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,200 Speaker 2: then like a week later she's like, I got them. 1064 00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:23,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1065 00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:27,640 Speaker 4: I mean, we need to be cognizant, like like you know, 1066 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,760 Speaker 4: it's people are just starting to become aware. 1067 00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:32,480 Speaker 3: Yes, your phone needs. 1068 00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,600 Speaker 4: To be what was it like a certain amount of 1069 00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:39,600 Speaker 4: likething away from your body and it's in the phone, 1070 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,520 Speaker 4: like it's in the by looss of your phone, but 1071 00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,360 Speaker 4: people never knew that it was there, telling us don't 1072 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,000 Speaker 4: have this, Like so if your phone shouldn't be that, 1073 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,360 Speaker 4: And then we got these ear pieces. 1074 00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:50,120 Speaker 1: Like penetrate our brain. 1075 00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, let me stop there, because I don't want nobody 1076 00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:58,440 Speaker 4: coming after me. You know, you love all providers exactly. 1077 00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's funny. 1078 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:06,520 Speaker 2: How do you in these moments stay grounded, like with 1079 00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:08,000 Speaker 2: everything that you have going on. 1080 00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:08,840 Speaker 1: I know you do the. 1081 00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,760 Speaker 2: You're ritual you I'm saying, you have your your rituals, 1082 00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:16,080 Speaker 2: but like even with like your family and friends, Like. 1083 00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,520 Speaker 4: I want to be grounded, man, Yeah, I want to 1084 00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:20,680 Speaker 4: be Yeah I am crownded. 1085 00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:22,520 Speaker 1: I mean I'm just out here like everybody. 1086 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, no for sure. 1087 00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:29,360 Speaker 4: Honestly, like like I'm a human being like everybody else, 1088 00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:34,840 Speaker 4: having experience like everybody else. Yeah, you know, I'm I 1089 00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:38,240 Speaker 4: have problems like everybody else. There's no there's nothing about 1090 00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:44,120 Speaker 4: my lived experiences different than anybody else. I you know, 1091 00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:50,320 Speaker 4: the only difference maybe is that we've been able to 1092 00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,920 Speaker 4: experience a level of success that doesn't. 1093 00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:53,600 Speaker 3: Happen every day. 1094 00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:57,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, but that doesn't make you immune to anything. 1095 00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,440 Speaker 3: It's just money, you know. 1096 00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:03,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think people put put money on such 1097 00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:09,080 Speaker 4: a pedestal. Money is it provides you, you know, with 1098 00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:12,960 Speaker 4: with resources, it provides you options, but it doesn't stop 1099 00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,280 Speaker 4: life from happening. It doesn't make things less hard. 1100 00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:16,880 Speaker 3: You know. 1101 00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,120 Speaker 4: I shouldn't say it doesn't make things less hard, because 1102 00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:24,560 Speaker 4: it can make things less hard, but things will. 1103 00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,760 Speaker 3: Still be hard whether you have a lot or a little. 1104 00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,040 Speaker 2: You know, you are not like a lot of people 1105 00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:31,800 Speaker 2: feel like once you make it, it gets easier, Like 1106 00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:33,360 Speaker 2: we talked about that more money my problems, but it 1107 00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,880 Speaker 2: really does like it it gets heavier, like. 1108 00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:41,320 Speaker 4: What is making it? Honestly, everybody defines that differently. Everybody 1109 00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:45,480 Speaker 4: is relative, you know, and you know, and I'm not 1110 00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:48,160 Speaker 4: going to sit here and say that I that I 1111 00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:52,680 Speaker 4: haven't accomplished what I want to what I wanted to accomplish, 1112 00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,560 Speaker 4: but I have so many more things that I want 1113 00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:58,640 Speaker 4: to accomplish. You know, there is no such thing as 1114 00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:02,640 Speaker 4: a level. There is no you know there is, you know, 1115 01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,520 Speaker 4: this invisible table that people want to sit around like. 1116 01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:11,120 Speaker 4: You know, I'm not saying that it doesn't exist, but 1117 01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:17,320 Speaker 4: it's not for real, you know. You know, so I 1118 01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,800 Speaker 4: think that just keeps me grounded because I'm on the ground. 1119 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,080 Speaker 4: I'm on the ground like everybody. 1120 01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:27,160 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, what is one piece of advice that you 1121 01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:31,040 Speaker 2: wish you had have known when you started off building 1122 01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,360 Speaker 2: this brand that you're like, if you could pass it 1123 01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,600 Speaker 2: on to another young woman or a man that's trying 1124 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,720 Speaker 2: to get their business off the ground, what would you 1125 01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:39,120 Speaker 2: tell them? 1126 01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:49,560 Speaker 4: I would say, take care of yourself and keep yourself 1127 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:55,200 Speaker 4: out of debt. Yeah, because dad is hard when you're 1128 01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:55,840 Speaker 4: a business. 1129 01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, yeah I was where were we? 1130 01:00:58,680 --> 01:00:59,640 Speaker 1: I just had a dinner. 1131 01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:05,360 Speaker 2: Emm agreed, and she was talking about the importance of like, 1132 01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,520 Speaker 2: when you're building, don't spend all your money. There's people 1133 01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:10,640 Speaker 2: who want to support you and spend theirs. 1134 01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:15,280 Speaker 3: How do you feel about that, when you're building, don't 1135 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,760 Speaker 3: spend your home money? Yeah, I agree with that. I 1136 01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:23,400 Speaker 3: agree with that. I mean, you know, Emma, Emma has 1137 01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,600 Speaker 3: Emma has the right circle for that. She does. Yeah, 1138 01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:32,479 Speaker 3: So I think that statement is relative, you know. Yeah, 1139 01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:36,000 Speaker 3: she is brilliant. 1140 01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:40,520 Speaker 4: The way that she built herself, the way she built 1141 01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:45,080 Speaker 4: her people, the way build the illness businesses that she's built. 1142 01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:52,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, she she is a genius when it 1143 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:56,560 Speaker 3: comes to knowing how to go to people to spend 1144 01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:57,840 Speaker 3: their money. Yeah. 1145 01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:03,560 Speaker 4: Not everybody has that genius, you know. So, so I 1146 01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:08,080 Speaker 4: think if you're a person who has that, do that. 1147 01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:10,120 Speaker 4: And if you're a person who doesn't have that, and 1148 01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,320 Speaker 4: you have the capability to learn how to do that, 1149 01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:16,560 Speaker 4: do that. You know, and there's some people you know 1150 01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:21,120 Speaker 4: that that that may not work, you know, because you 1151 01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:24,720 Speaker 4: have to you have to have a gift for Yeah, 1152 01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:31,560 Speaker 4: you know, I mean my friend John John Craig, He's 1153 01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:35,760 Speaker 4: he's gifted with that, you know, so gifted with that. 1154 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:37,000 Speaker 3: I'm not. 1155 01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:40,920 Speaker 4: I'm not particularly gifted with it. I'm just being honest. 1156 01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:41,280 Speaker 3: You know. 1157 01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:44,800 Speaker 4: Me and side have raised a ship ton of money. 1158 01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:55,640 Speaker 4: I'm gifted with that, But I'm not necessarily gifted at, uh, 1159 01:02:56,200 --> 01:03:02,120 Speaker 4: spending somebody else's money if it's not like an investment 1160 01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:05,120 Speaker 4: into the business, right, Yeah, for sure. Yeah, so I 1161 01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:10,360 Speaker 4: applaud it. I think it's great, you know, I really. 1162 01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,600 Speaker 3: Do the way for sure it is. 1163 01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,520 Speaker 4: But and I guess I'm just saying the dead thing 1164 01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:19,840 Speaker 4: because when you're growing and building, you really need to 1165 01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:23,560 Speaker 4: you know, you just you need to make sure that 1166 01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,800 Speaker 4: you can take care of your household. Yes, you know, 1167 01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:31,120 Speaker 4: because when you're not well, like when when when you're 1168 01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:35,520 Speaker 4: in a desperate situation, it can like make you're also 1169 01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:39,240 Speaker 4: building a business, which is also a desperate situation within itself, right, 1170 01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,280 Speaker 4: and that's hard enough even within itself. So you just 1171 01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,480 Speaker 4: want to make sure that you're being responsible with what 1172 01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:47,400 Speaker 4: you have. That's why not just quitting your job and 1173 01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,240 Speaker 4: keep you know, keeping your job, running your business until 1174 01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,480 Speaker 4: your business can take care of you know, or or 1175 01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,120 Speaker 4: until you can raise the money or whatever the situation is. 1176 01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:59,480 Speaker 4: So I think that I also think making sure you 1177 01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:04,920 Speaker 4: take care of your health so important. 1178 01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:08,600 Speaker 3: And your weight and your fitness and and and keep 1179 01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:15,560 Speaker 3: the extra curricular activities to to to a minimum. You 1180 01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:20,800 Speaker 3: know that that's also something that's you know, some people 1181 01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:24,280 Speaker 3: live by the work hard, play hard. But play hard. 1182 01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:27,200 Speaker 4: Comes back to bite you, it does, it does, So 1183 01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:31,240 Speaker 4: you know, work hard, take care of yourself, you know, 1184 01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:33,160 Speaker 4: play every now and again. 1185 01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,960 Speaker 3: You know that. But that's that's my mantra for myself. 1186 01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:38,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel like that also helps keep your 1187 01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:39,320 Speaker 1: focus sharp. 1188 01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:42,600 Speaker 3: It does, you know. It the distraction too, it does. 1189 01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:44,960 Speaker 4: It does because when you when you're out every night, 1190 01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:49,760 Speaker 4: you're running, you know, you're smoking, you drinking and you 1191 01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:53,520 Speaker 4: you know some people you sniffing. Whatever you're doing, you're 1192 01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,160 Speaker 4: not thinking with your right mind. 1193 01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:56,560 Speaker 3: You can't be. 1194 01:04:58,320 --> 01:04:58,640 Speaker 1: You're not. 1195 01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:00,640 Speaker 3: You just can't be, you know. 1196 01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:03,600 Speaker 4: So if you've got if you have issues with any 1197 01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:08,080 Speaker 4: of those things, whether it's a pill or whatever the 1198 01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:12,560 Speaker 4: thing is, I would say, if you wanting to be successful, 1199 01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:17,920 Speaker 4: get a handle on that, you know, talk to somebody, 1200 01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:21,720 Speaker 4: get some help, take some medicine, do whatever you need 1201 01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:26,320 Speaker 4: to do, you know, because it can because the other 1202 01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,760 Speaker 4: thing is you don't want to get successful or not 1203 01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:29,320 Speaker 4: be happy. 1204 01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:33,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and sometimes you can come like if you're already 1205 01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:35,280 Speaker 2: doing those things, you can end up becoming dependent on those. 1206 01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:37,560 Speaker 3: Things because then you can afford more. Right. 1207 01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,400 Speaker 4: So, you know, I'm not here to tell anybody what 1208 01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,680 Speaker 4: to do, but you know you're asking my opinion. Those 1209 01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:46,160 Speaker 4: are those are things that I think because it's happening 1210 01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:52,960 Speaker 4: more and more these days, and especially in our community, 1211 01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:58,320 Speaker 4: and there's a reason for that, and we need to 1212 01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:03,520 Speaker 4: be thinking about what we're to do when we're sixty five, 1213 01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,360 Speaker 4: you need to be thinking about how are we going 1214 01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:07,000 Speaker 4: to retire? 1215 01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:09,400 Speaker 3: Right? You don't. 1216 01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:11,640 Speaker 4: You're not going to get there by living a soft life, 1217 01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:16,680 Speaker 4: you know, so you know, or or just being out 1218 01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:23,880 Speaker 4: outside doing any and everything. You know. So I just 1219 01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:28,480 Speaker 4: think it's really important that you care for yourself and 1220 01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,680 Speaker 4: really look at all the things you're doing, because if 1221 01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:35,520 Speaker 4: you want to, if you know, you can. Plenty of 1222 01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:39,520 Speaker 4: people have reached success doing all kinds of stuff, so 1223 01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:42,520 Speaker 4: let's be clear about that. But a lot a lot 1224 01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:48,080 Speaker 4: of those people are leaving this place, whether it's by 1225 01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:51,760 Speaker 4: their own hand or not. And so that's also something 1226 01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:57,080 Speaker 4: that we need to look at you, you know, and 1227 01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:00,160 Speaker 4: why why try to achieve success and you're not happy, 1228 01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:01,760 Speaker 4: you're not really enjoying it? 1229 01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:02,800 Speaker 1: No, And that's the point. 1230 01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:05,320 Speaker 3: What's the point? Yeah, it's silly. 1231 01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:07,200 Speaker 1: It really is. It really is. 1232 01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:11,920 Speaker 2: How have the recent changes in d I impacted your business? 1233 01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:16,160 Speaker 2: We know that there's so many stories you're you're everywhere, 1234 01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:19,240 Speaker 2: you know, And I'm asking this because I also want 1235 01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,360 Speaker 2: to let our audience know, how can we support how 1236 01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:22,800 Speaker 2: can we make sure that we champion you? 1237 01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:25,800 Speaker 1: Absolutely? Yeah, because I know it's impacting everyone. 1238 01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,880 Speaker 3: It is, Yeah, it is. It definitely impacted us. 1239 01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:34,160 Speaker 4: Traffic is definitely down at that retailer, you know, which 1240 01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:35,320 Speaker 4: impacts everybody. 1241 01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:36,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. 1242 01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:40,280 Speaker 4: So in that particular space, sales are down. You know, 1243 01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:47,320 Speaker 4: it's starting to improve, which is great. Yeah, because we 1244 01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:51,000 Speaker 4: have an omni channel business, we are in a really 1245 01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:56,720 Speaker 4: great position because we're not reliant normally when when when 1246 01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,240 Speaker 4: something like this happens, if it's down in one place, 1247 01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:02,040 Speaker 4: is probably up in another place because people are just 1248 01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:06,960 Speaker 4: leaving that place and going to the other place, and so, 1249 01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:10,080 Speaker 4: you know, so that that gives us the ability to 1250 01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:15,760 Speaker 4: be successful and make up for you know, this DEI 1251 01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:20,479 Speaker 4: stuff is hard because it's for people who aren't who 1252 01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:24,280 Speaker 4: don't have an omni channel strategy. It's difficult, you know, 1253 01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:27,080 Speaker 4: but that's why you have to have an omni channel 1254 01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:32,400 Speaker 4: strategy and not reliant on just one thing. People people 1255 01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,320 Speaker 4: will say, you know, why can't I just go to 1256 01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:38,120 Speaker 4: your website? Going to the website is cute, but websites 1257 01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:41,559 Speaker 4: aren't as profitable as you think. Yes, you make more money, 1258 01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,040 Speaker 4: you may make your full margin on your site, but 1259 01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,840 Speaker 4: what what it costs for somebody to pick and pack 1260 01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:52,160 Speaker 4: and box and tape and do all that right, you've 1261 01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:55,400 Speaker 4: lost a lot of that margin that you that that 1262 01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:57,760 Speaker 4: that you so called just made right. 1263 01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:00,360 Speaker 3: So, you know, and. 1264 01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:05,759 Speaker 4: Even even Amazon, Amazon's is an incredible It's a huge 1265 01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:06,639 Speaker 4: part of our business. 1266 01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:09,479 Speaker 3: It's a huge part of everybody's business. 1267 01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:14,000 Speaker 4: But also those FBA fees are on another level. 1268 01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:14,760 Speaker 3: Right. 1269 01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:20,280 Speaker 4: So it may it may seem like you're you're making 1270 01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:25,840 Speaker 4: more money through those channels, but when you look at 1271 01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:27,559 Speaker 4: when you take a step back and look at the 1272 01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:30,519 Speaker 4: profitability of that, you have to look at the whole thing, 1273 01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:34,120 Speaker 4: and that whole thing paints a picture, you know. So 1274 01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:39,200 Speaker 4: it affects businesses in a huge way. But it goes 1275 01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:41,120 Speaker 4: back to some of the things we were talking about earlier, 1276 01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:43,600 Speaker 4: people's lack of understanding, you know. 1277 01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:47,800 Speaker 3: So you know, I'm not here. 1278 01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:49,639 Speaker 4: I can't tell people what to do with their money 1279 01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:51,799 Speaker 4: or where they should go and shop. 1280 01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:55,120 Speaker 3: That's none of my business. All that I'm saying is is. 1281 01:09:55,120 --> 01:10:00,160 Speaker 4: That when when, when when we decide to do what 1282 01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:05,040 Speaker 4: we did, you know, or to just stop shopping somewhere, 1283 01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:09,280 Speaker 4: how it affects the businesses that you may have shopped there, 1284 01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:13,280 Speaker 4: you know, it deeply affects them, and a lot of 1285 01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:15,320 Speaker 4: those businesses are newer businesses. 1286 01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:19,559 Speaker 3: We're just getting started, you know, and and and and. 1287 01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:23,800 Speaker 4: The retailers look at those sales, right, they're looking, are 1288 01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:26,960 Speaker 4: you meeting your dollars per store point? Are you are 1289 01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:30,479 Speaker 4: you hitting your velocities that you need to hit? Right, 1290 01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:34,320 Speaker 4: They're giving grace because they know what's going on, you know, 1291 01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:40,800 Speaker 4: But there's also only so long and so it can 1292 01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:43,360 Speaker 4: it can deeply affect that. And then how that affects 1293 01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:48,280 Speaker 4: that brand growing is if you didn't do good in 1294 01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:52,440 Speaker 4: that one retailer when you go normally, the other retailers 1295 01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:56,280 Speaker 4: are basing how you did based off of how you 1296 01:10:56,320 --> 01:11:00,320 Speaker 4: did with that one, right, And so just so people, no, 1297 01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:06,759 Speaker 4: that's what that's what can happen when when we decide aoycott, 1298 01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:09,439 Speaker 4: when we decide that we want a boycott, you know, 1299 01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:14,080 Speaker 4: you know, and it's not just as easy as like 1300 01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:16,519 Speaker 4: I'll just shop on their website or I'll buy them 1301 01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:19,559 Speaker 4: on Amazon. It's much deeper than that, because what it 1302 01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:23,000 Speaker 4: takes to get into a retailer like Target or Walmart 1303 01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:25,680 Speaker 4: or anywhere else is astronomical. 1304 01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:27,720 Speaker 3: It is astronomical. 1305 01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:32,160 Speaker 4: You have to work with the manufacturer because it's really 1306 01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:32,760 Speaker 4: hard to do that. 1307 01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:33,360 Speaker 3: On your own. 1308 01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:35,360 Speaker 4: Some people do it, but it's really hard to do it. 1309 01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:38,960 Speaker 4: You have to raise money. You don't get paid for 1310 01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:41,559 Speaker 4: like ninety to one hundred and twenty days, depending on 1311 01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:46,639 Speaker 4: in the beginning, you know, you're not getting a purchase 1312 01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:48,599 Speaker 4: order where they're going to pay you right away. They 1313 01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:51,720 Speaker 4: don't pay you before it goes into their store, right Like, 1314 01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:55,120 Speaker 4: that's not how that works, you know. And so and 1315 01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:59,760 Speaker 4: then because you've probably a mass some sort of debt, 1316 01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:03,400 Speaker 4: or you've raised money or whatever trying to prep for that, 1317 01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:07,959 Speaker 4: you don't even realize, especially if you're new to retail, 1318 01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:11,760 Speaker 4: mass market retail, you don't even know, Okay, when am 1319 01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:13,280 Speaker 4: I going to have to go back and order more 1320 01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:13,960 Speaker 4: product the way? 1321 01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:15,080 Speaker 3: You know? 1322 01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:18,439 Speaker 4: And then and every time you do that, that costs 1323 01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:22,280 Speaker 4: tens of thousands of dollars. So and if you haven't 1324 01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:24,920 Speaker 4: gotten paid from the retailer yet, maybe you were able 1325 01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:27,040 Speaker 4: to raise enough money to get it started. And I'm 1326 01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:30,280 Speaker 4: projecting because that's what happened with us, But that happens. 1327 01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:35,720 Speaker 4: So like boycotting is a really big thing to do. 1328 01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:40,160 Speaker 4: I understand the point, and it is driving the point. 1329 01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:45,960 Speaker 4: Believe me, it's working. It's driving the point they're getting 1330 01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:50,040 Speaker 4: themselves together, you know, because I'm sure nobody thought it 1331 01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:53,519 Speaker 4: was going to get to where it is, but. 1332 01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:56,479 Speaker 3: Here we are, so it did work. So I do 1333 01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:58,439 Speaker 3: commend us for that. 1334 01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:00,280 Speaker 4: At the same time, I'm not trying to talk out 1335 01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:02,599 Speaker 4: of both sides of my mouth, understand, but just from 1336 01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:07,000 Speaker 4: a business point of view, it's hard, you know, It's 1337 01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:12,320 Speaker 4: really hard, even though I get it. Sometimes unless you 1338 01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:15,960 Speaker 4: unless you you mess with somebody's money, they're not going 1339 01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:21,160 Speaker 4: to understand, you know, And so I think it was necessary, right, 1340 01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:26,559 Speaker 4: But I also know that it's hard, you know, you know, 1341 01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:30,599 Speaker 4: and so it's you know, I. 1342 01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:33,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I get it. 1343 01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,919 Speaker 2: In closing, I want to ask you about the legacy 1344 01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:40,839 Speaker 2: that you want to continue to build and the impact 1345 01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:46,280 Speaker 2: that you want to leave on our community. 1346 01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:48,639 Speaker 3: You know. As far as impact, I just. 1347 01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:55,080 Speaker 4: I deeply believe in making staples things that people need 1348 01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:59,880 Speaker 4: every single day, you know. And I believe in it 1349 01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:05,160 Speaker 4: so much because I'm crazy enough to think that I 1350 01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:08,040 Speaker 4: or we can do it really well, and it turns 1351 01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:13,559 Speaker 4: out we can, you know, And so you know, like, 1352 01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:19,400 Speaker 4: so I guess the impact that I want to make 1353 01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:23,439 Speaker 4: is that I think I was brought to this planet 1354 01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:27,200 Speaker 4: for that and I want to just continue to do that, 1355 01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:30,240 Speaker 4: you know, and continue to serve humanity in that way 1356 01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:33,519 Speaker 4: and make products that actually benefit people's lives and make 1357 01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:36,800 Speaker 4: them better and help them to be proactive with their health. 1358 01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:41,439 Speaker 3: And things like that. And as far as a legacy, 1359 01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:43,400 Speaker 3: I don't know, man. You know, I. 1360 01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:48,840 Speaker 4: Want honey Pot to be here into infinity, you know. 1361 01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:54,559 Speaker 4: I want honey Pot to be a conglomerate brand within itself, 1362 01:14:55,160 --> 01:15:00,800 Speaker 4: you know. And whether I'm whether I'm here with my 1363 01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:02,439 Speaker 4: team running it or not, you know. 1364 01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:06,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, And so you know, I you know, I'm grateful 1365 01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:07,439 Speaker 3: to do it. 1366 01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:10,559 Speaker 4: And I'm grateful for all the success that we've had 1367 01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:13,200 Speaker 4: and all the support that we've been given and to 1368 01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:16,759 Speaker 4: everybody that's gotten us to where we are, to my brother, 1369 01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:18,240 Speaker 4: you know, I'm grateful to all of it. 1370 01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:19,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. I love that. 1371 01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:22,360 Speaker 2: Now you have some new products that you guys have launched. 1372 01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:24,720 Speaker 2: Let's get into it so they can know what to 1373 01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:29,839 Speaker 2: look out for. You have the new panty liners or pads. 1374 01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:35,360 Speaker 4: Yes, so we have our long liners that that are 1375 01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:37,559 Speaker 4: in cooling and also are in calming. 1376 01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:38,280 Speaker 3: Yes. 1377 01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:40,360 Speaker 1: So you want a little tingle, you can get the 1378 01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:41,320 Speaker 1: tangle if you want to. 1379 01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:42,599 Speaker 3: Call exactly exactly. 1380 01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:46,480 Speaker 4: The We have our calming pads, which are absolutely beautiful 1381 01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:50,960 Speaker 4: that are infused with astra ganda, lavender, lemon bom, so 1382 01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,360 Speaker 4: they're not gonna you know how the cooling pads you 1383 01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:55,840 Speaker 4: get like a it's like kind of like a peppermint patty. Yes, 1384 01:15:56,560 --> 01:16:01,519 Speaker 4: with the calming, you're not necessarily getting You're not you're 1385 01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:04,679 Speaker 4: not getting any kind of a sensory in the same 1386 01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:06,760 Speaker 4: way you would get with the cooling, right, you know. 1387 01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:10,439 Speaker 4: But studies, clinical studies, the clinical trials on this were 1388 01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:16,040 Speaker 4: insanely like like and those are numbers that are astounding 1389 01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:19,160 Speaker 4: from a clinical yeah, you know, but they were literally 1390 01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:22,360 Speaker 4: clinically tested and proven to be able to. 1391 01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:25,320 Speaker 3: Ease irritation on the skin. Oh wow, you know. 1392 01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:29,440 Speaker 4: And then they have those beautiful adaptagens. You know, Astraganda 1393 01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:33,800 Speaker 4: is an adaptagen great for stress, you know. But there 1394 01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:37,320 Speaker 4: is just infused with really really really beautiful herbs. And 1395 01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:43,120 Speaker 4: then the prebiotic isn't really new but kind of news. 1396 01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:45,600 Speaker 4: It's been around for two years. 1397 01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:47,519 Speaker 2: Now, Okay, because I don't see it, I don't see 1398 01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:47,880 Speaker 2: it often. 1399 01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:50,679 Speaker 3: I see the because it's growing. 1400 01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:54,439 Speaker 4: Okay, so we I believe we launched it last early 1401 01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:57,640 Speaker 4: last year and then you know, and so this is 1402 01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:01,600 Speaker 4: its second year. And normally when you launch something, you know, 1403 01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:05,320 Speaker 4: like it takes time for it to grow and yield. 1404 01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:09,000 Speaker 3: But it's beautiful. It's my favorite. 1405 01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:13,439 Speaker 4: Oh my god, it's so good, awesome. 1406 01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:15,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1407 01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:17,559 Speaker 2: Some of my favorites are the phone wash I use that, 1408 01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:19,600 Speaker 2: I use your whites and then after my cycle, I 1409 01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:21,800 Speaker 2: would like to use the Borg acid suppositories. 1410 01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:25,880 Speaker 3: Yes, I love it. 1411 01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:27,080 Speaker 1: Yes, thank you so much. 1412 01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:27,400 Speaker 4: Bia. 1413 01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:31,360 Speaker 2: I thoroughly enjoyed this conversation with you. You've impacted me, You've 1414 01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:34,000 Speaker 2: inspired me, and I appreciate you taking the time to 1415 01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:34,439 Speaker 2: sit with me. 1416 01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:35,080 Speaker 3: You. 1417 01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:39,160 Speaker 1: Yes, this is good, so good, Oh my goodness. 1418 01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:39,559 Speaker 3: Girl. 1419 01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:48,479 Speaker 2: All right, y'all, let's get into the bit today. I 1420 01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:53,160 Speaker 2: am wearing a yellow Jack Moose polo. I'm wearing black 1421 01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:58,840 Speaker 2: jock Moose Bermuda shorts and leopard print patent leather Cheetah 1422 01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:02,320 Speaker 2: pumps by Adultching and my signature jury earring to Bible 1423 01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:05,280 Speaker 2: take a Vanetta and my signature rings. 1424 01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:12,439 Speaker 1: And van Cleeve bracelets. Listen. 1425 01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:14,880 Speaker 2: Today was a reminder that we need to listen to 1426 01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:18,200 Speaker 2: our intuition, trust the guidance of our ancestors, and we 1427 01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:21,160 Speaker 2: will find our purpose Hughes. Thank you to be A 1428 01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:23,800 Speaker 2: Dixon for joining us and sharing her energy, her light, 1429 01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:27,360 Speaker 2: and her story. Whether you're building something from scratch or 1430 01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:30,639 Speaker 2: just trying to pour back into yourself, I hope today 1431 01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:34,160 Speaker 2: you find the room to breathe, to reflect, and choose peace. 1432 01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:54,160 Speaker 2: Until next time, keep it positive, sweetie,