1 00:00:15,066 --> 00:00:15,506 Speaker 1: Pushkin. 2 00:00:15,526 --> 00:00:30,176 Speaker 2: Night 4 going up. 3 00:00:44,006 --> 00:00:46,626 Speaker 3: I'm on the ninth floor of the L.A. County Courthouse. 4 00:00:50,386 --> 00:00:54,216 Speaker 3: It's the celebrity murder floor. This is where O.J. Simpson 5 00:00:54,236 --> 00:00:58,736 Speaker 3: was tried, and Phil Spector, the grim sleeper, the night stalker, 6 00:00:59,376 --> 00:01:06,696 Speaker 3: and now Anthony Rauta. Rauta's been awaiting trial for over 7 00:01:06,736 --> 00:01:11,176 Speaker 3: a year. He looks like he's aged a decade. He's 8 00:01:11,216 --> 00:01:15,236 Speaker 3: in a restraint chair, arms strapped down doubtless the result 9 00:01:15,276 --> 00:01:20,396 Speaker 3: of so many courtroom disruptions. He gets wheeled in backwards 10 00:01:20,596 --> 00:01:24,146 Speaker 3: by half a dozen deputies. They're filming him, but the 11 00:01:24,166 --> 00:01:26,766 Speaker 3: judge won't let me record in the courtroom. So I 12 00:01:26,806 --> 00:01:30,686 Speaker 3: take notes the old-fashioned way, by hand, in my reporter's notebook. 13 00:01:31,886 --> 00:01:35,016 Speaker 3: By now, Rod has exhausted the public defender's office and 14 00:01:35,056 --> 00:01:38,016 Speaker 3: the alternate public defender's office. He's on to a private 15 00:01:38,056 --> 00:01:43,146 Speaker 3: attorney who represents indigent clients. But still, at almost every hearing, 16 00:01:43,426 --> 00:01:47,936 Speaker 3: he's asking the judge, sometimes nicely, sometimes not, if he 17 00:01:47,996 --> 00:01:52,876 Speaker 3: can represent himself. The question of Rauta's mental state hangs 18 00:01:52,936 --> 00:01:56,236 Speaker 3: over the whole proceeding. Which Rauta will show up today? 19 00:01:56,796 --> 00:02:00,426 Speaker 3: What will provoke his rage? Is anyone going to mention 20 00:02:00,466 --> 00:02:06,006 Speaker 3: the fact that he seems completely unstable? Today, he's irate. 21 00:02:06,866 --> 00:02:10,406 Speaker 3: He's yelling at the judge. The crime scene is outdoors. 22 00:02:10,646 --> 00:02:14,406 Speaker 3: There was a fire. Where is his ballistics expert? Time 23 00:02:14,466 --> 00:02:18,806 Speaker 3: is passing. Time he can't get back. I don't want 24 00:02:18,846 --> 00:02:22,106 Speaker 3: to sit in jail another two years, he shouts. What 25 00:02:22,126 --> 00:02:24,066 Speaker 3: do you want me to do, be dumb? Want me 26 00:02:24,106 --> 00:02:27,296 Speaker 3: to close my eyes and my ears? I have a brain. 27 00:02:27,316 --> 00:02:31,836 Speaker 3: I have a soul. So I use that. You don't 28 00:02:31,876 --> 00:02:39,276 Speaker 3: tell me. I'm almost relieved when, at a later hearing, 29 00:02:39,576 --> 00:02:42,556 Speaker 3: the judge expresses doubt about his competency to stand trial, 30 00:02:43,336 --> 00:02:46,116 Speaker 3: even though that means everything will slow down while he's 31 00:02:46,176 --> 00:02:50,236 Speaker 3: assessed and stabilized. But what he's yelling about today is 32 00:02:50,496 --> 00:02:55,846 Speaker 3: something I've been thinking about, too. The evidence. What there is, 33 00:02:56,366 --> 00:02:59,366 Speaker 3: what there isn't. And what it all adds up to 34 00:02:59,646 --> 00:03:03,466 Speaker 3: in the case against Rauta. In other words, what's the 35 00:03:03,506 --> 00:03:06,636 Speaker 3: theory of the case? How would Rauta have committed all 36 00:03:06,656 --> 00:03:18,786 Speaker 3: these crimes? And more important, why? I'm Dana Goodyear, and 37 00:03:18,846 --> 00:03:20,826 Speaker 3: this is Lost Hills. 38 00:03:20,846 --> 00:03:25,246 Speaker 2: Lost Hills. 39 00:03:48,546 --> 00:03:55,156 Speaker 3: Episode 7, Morning Light. I'm holding a file stamped secret. 40 00:03:55,936 --> 00:03:58,356 Speaker 3: It's the testimony that was presented to a grand jury, 41 00:03:58,716 --> 00:04:03,776 Speaker 3: convened several months back. It's been unsealed. So finally, I 42 00:04:03,816 --> 00:04:09,526 Speaker 3: can see what the prosecutor's thinking. This is her best argument. 43 00:04:10,286 --> 00:04:14,386 Speaker 3: All the evidence she wants to present, intact, unblemished, no 44 00:04:14,446 --> 00:04:18,596 Speaker 3: holes poked by Rauta's defense attorney— That'll come later, when 45 00:04:18,636 --> 00:04:25,266 Speaker 3: the criminal trial gets underway. It's surprising. Remember near Mrs. 46 00:04:25,266 --> 00:04:29,566 Speaker 3: 1 through 5, the shootings that used shotgun ammo? She 47 00:04:29,646 --> 00:04:33,046 Speaker 3: says the reason law enforcement never found a shotgun is 48 00:04:33,086 --> 00:04:37,376 Speaker 3: that there never was one. She says Anthony Rauta used 49 00:04:37,536 --> 00:04:42,036 Speaker 3: a zip gun, a crude DIY weapon he made out 50 00:04:42,076 --> 00:04:47,156 Speaker 3: of pipes and nails. She called various investigators to testify 51 00:04:47,196 --> 00:04:50,776 Speaker 3: to the grand jury. They said they found shotgun shells 52 00:04:51,116 --> 00:04:54,576 Speaker 3: at Rauta's camp that had markings indicating they hadn't been 53 00:04:54,636 --> 00:04:58,396 Speaker 3: fired from a manufactured gun. They also said they found 54 00:04:58,456 --> 00:05:03,686 Speaker 3: pipes and nails. But pipes and nails don't constitute a 55 00:05:03,726 --> 00:05:07,646 Speaker 3: zip gun. They're just some of the elements. It's like 56 00:05:07,686 --> 00:05:10,366 Speaker 3: if you walked into a kitchen and saw milk, eggs, 57 00:05:10,446 --> 00:05:14,106 Speaker 3: and sugar, some dirty cake pans. You might infer a 58 00:05:14,226 --> 00:05:17,386 Speaker 3: cake had been made, but you also might wonder, where's 59 00:05:17,406 --> 00:05:22,406 Speaker 3: the flour? The prosecutor says Rauta was fixated on killing. 60 00:05:23,106 --> 00:05:25,826 Speaker 3: When the homemade zip gun didn't kill, she says, he 61 00:05:25,906 --> 00:05:28,986 Speaker 3: left the area around Malibu Creek State Park, went to 62 00:05:29,046 --> 00:05:33,306 Speaker 3: Northern California. Cell phone data places him there in January 2018. 63 00:05:33,306 --> 00:05:37,116 Speaker 3: And when he came back a few months later, she says, 64 00:05:37,566 --> 00:05:42,096 Speaker 3: he had a new weapon, a 9mm carbine. And that's 65 00:05:42,156 --> 00:05:51,046 Speaker 3: what allowed him to fulfill his deadly plan. Hallelujah, blessed Mary, 66 00:05:51,506 --> 00:05:59,306 Speaker 3: crazy's back. So we went from a crudely cobbled together 67 00:05:59,366 --> 00:06:03,616 Speaker 3: zip gun to a precise and deadly semi-automatic weapon, the 68 00:06:03,636 --> 00:06:07,236 Speaker 3: 9mm carbine. I've never even heard of a zip gun 69 00:06:07,576 --> 00:06:10,896 Speaker 3: and know almost as little about carbines. I call up 70 00:06:10,936 --> 00:06:12,676 Speaker 3: Greg Block, the weapons expert, again. 71 00:06:12,696 --> 00:06:20,136 Speaker 4: A zip gun is a homemade, make-it-yourself gun. Normally, you're 72 00:06:20,196 --> 00:06:23,316 Speaker 4: shooting shotgun rounds. It's a couple pieces of pipe. 73 00:06:24,306 --> 00:06:26,586 Speaker 3: He says everything you need to make a zip gun, 74 00:06:27,146 --> 00:06:29,986 Speaker 3: you can get at the hardware store. The most basic 75 00:06:30,006 --> 00:06:32,806 Speaker 3: would be a pipe to hold the shot shell, a nail, 76 00:06:33,246 --> 00:06:35,346 Speaker 3: and something to force the nail into the back of 77 00:06:35,366 --> 00:06:35,686 Speaker 3: the shell. 78 00:06:36,286 --> 00:06:39,276 Speaker 4: Basically, they're a weapon for a person that cannot legally 79 00:06:39,336 --> 00:06:39,916 Speaker 4: purchase one. 80 00:06:40,806 --> 00:06:44,506 Speaker 3: So, since Rauta couldn't buy regular weapons and had gone 81 00:06:44,526 --> 00:06:48,646 Speaker 3: to prison twice for having antique weapons, maybe the next 82 00:06:48,786 --> 00:06:52,346 Speaker 3: logical step, the last resort, was to make his own. 83 00:06:53,666 --> 00:06:58,296 Speaker 3: It also fits Rauta's survivalist lifestyle. One of his favorite 84 00:06:58,326 --> 00:07:03,396 Speaker 3: survivalist authors wrote a book, which Rauta owned, called Gorilla Gunsmithing, 85 00:07:04,136 --> 00:07:07,736 Speaker 3: about making your own weapons. Greg tells me that zip 86 00:07:07,756 --> 00:07:10,946 Speaker 3: guns are dangerous, clumsy, and imprecise. 87 00:07:11,646 --> 00:07:15,846 Speaker 4: They're unreliable if not made properly. They do not have 88 00:07:15,986 --> 00:07:20,366 Speaker 4: an effective range. A zip gun is for up close personal. 89 00:07:21,356 --> 00:07:24,096 Speaker 3: He says you've got to be really motivated to build one. 90 00:07:24,916 --> 00:07:28,036 Speaker 3: Usually it's hardcore gun geeks and teenagers. 91 00:07:28,696 --> 00:07:32,276 Speaker 4: Depending upon the metal he's using for one or both 92 00:07:32,336 --> 00:07:35,236 Speaker 4: pieces of pipe, it could blow up in his hand. 93 00:07:36,046 --> 00:07:39,306 Speaker 4: Because when that round goes off, you're causing an explosion. 94 00:07:40,046 --> 00:07:43,286 Speaker 4: And if you're not using good metal, that barrel could 95 00:07:43,366 --> 00:07:46,386 Speaker 4: separate like a banana peels. And if you're holding that 96 00:07:46,406 --> 00:07:48,526 Speaker 4: in your hands, it's going to get religious. 97 00:07:49,526 --> 00:07:52,646 Speaker 3: The zip theory doesn't just explain why the detectives never 98 00:07:52,686 --> 00:07:56,346 Speaker 3: found a shotgun. It could also explain a distinct feature 99 00:07:56,486 --> 00:08:00,286 Speaker 3: of near-misses 1 through 5, the shotgun ammo shootings that 100 00:08:00,326 --> 00:08:04,576 Speaker 3: took place well before Beaudet's murder. In those incidents, the 101 00:08:04,616 --> 00:08:07,876 Speaker 3: shooter fired only once. It was one of the oddities, 102 00:08:08,196 --> 00:08:10,656 Speaker 3: along with the time of day and the area, that 103 00:08:10,716 --> 00:08:13,436 Speaker 3: early on made Sergeant Wright and Lieutenant Royal think the 104 00:08:13,486 --> 00:08:18,826 Speaker 3: crimes were connected. Reloading a zip gun takes time, which 105 00:08:18,886 --> 00:08:22,906 Speaker 3: could mean getting caught, especially if your hunting ground is 106 00:08:22,946 --> 00:08:27,156 Speaker 3: a crowded public park. So what about the other gun, 107 00:08:27,596 --> 00:08:30,336 Speaker 3: the one Rauta was arrested with? The make and model 108 00:08:30,396 --> 00:08:31,256 Speaker 3: was a Ruger PC-9. 109 00:08:32,566 --> 00:08:37,206 Speaker 4: It looks just like a rifle, except that it takes 110 00:08:37,286 --> 00:08:38,266 Speaker 4: a pistol cartridge. 111 00:08:39,206 --> 00:08:43,066 Speaker 3: A pistol cartridge. In other words, Rauta's rifle took a 112 00:08:43,086 --> 00:08:44,306 Speaker 3: 9mm handgun round. 113 00:08:44,966 --> 00:08:47,466 Speaker 4: See, that was the whole thing with the carbine going 114 00:08:47,526 --> 00:08:52,326 Speaker 4: back to the Wild West. Whatever your handgun shot, your 115 00:08:52,406 --> 00:08:56,206 Speaker 4: carbine shot or your saddle rifle. In the Old West, 116 00:08:56,246 --> 00:08:59,666 Speaker 4: you carried a bandolier that had one caliber, and it 117 00:08:59,716 --> 00:09:02,716 Speaker 4: was used for your carbine and used for your handgun. 118 00:09:04,016 --> 00:09:09,656 Speaker 3: The Ruger PC-9 resembles a short-barreled, military-style rifle. According to 119 00:09:09,696 --> 00:09:13,736 Speaker 3: grand jury testimony, routers had been modified. The stock, which 120 00:09:13,836 --> 00:09:17,356 Speaker 3: rests on the shoulder, had been removed. Instead, it had 121 00:09:17,376 --> 00:09:21,316 Speaker 3: a pistol grip. And how much does a carbine cost? 122 00:09:22,836 --> 00:09:26,516 Speaker 4: You can get them for $ 500 or $ 600. 123 00:09:25,816 --> 00:09:29,846 Speaker 3: I ask him what people use them for. Hunting? Home defense? 124 00:09:31,106 --> 00:09:35,226 Speaker 4: Not really. They're more for plinking and target shooting. That's 125 00:09:35,286 --> 00:09:39,636 Speaker 4: really what they're designed for. I mean, because it's a 126 00:09:39,696 --> 00:09:45,416 Speaker 4: handgun round, it's really not effective as a hunting rifle. 127 00:09:46,556 --> 00:09:51,186 Speaker 3: So why would someone... get one of these guns for 128 00:09:51,226 --> 00:09:53,426 Speaker 3: reasons other than target practice? 129 00:09:54,346 --> 00:09:59,356 Speaker 4: Availability. I believe that's what he had available to him 130 00:09:59,376 --> 00:10:03,216 Speaker 4: to get illegally. You know, he can't go into a 131 00:10:03,256 --> 00:10:06,106 Speaker 4: gun store and buy a gun. He's going to get refused. 132 00:10:06,826 --> 00:10:10,836 Speaker 4: He will fail the California Department of Justice. background clearance check. 133 00:10:11,616 --> 00:10:16,866 Speaker 4: So my personal belief is it was probably stolen and 134 00:10:16,946 --> 00:10:20,106 Speaker 4: he bought it from a fence or maybe he stole 135 00:10:20,126 --> 00:10:22,026 Speaker 4: it himself. We don't know. 136 00:10:27,246 --> 00:10:30,216 Speaker 3: Greg says that the Ruger PC-9 is a loud gun. 137 00:10:31,416 --> 00:10:36,616 Speaker 4: There's actually two noises. One, you hear the noise of 138 00:10:36,716 --> 00:10:42,966 Speaker 4: the gun going off, and then downrange, you hear what 139 00:10:43,016 --> 00:10:45,926 Speaker 4: is basically, for lack of a better description, a sonic 140 00:10:45,966 --> 00:10:47,386 Speaker 4: boom just like an airplane. 141 00:10:50,266 --> 00:10:54,236 Speaker 3: I flash on Scott McCurdy, Tristan Beaudet's brother-in-law. and his 142 00:10:54,296 --> 00:10:56,866 Speaker 3: bleary thought in the early morning hours that he was 143 00:10:56,916 --> 00:11:02,786 Speaker 3: hearing the crack of fireworks. And the sonic boom, is 144 00:11:02,826 --> 00:11:05,666 Speaker 3: that what would sound possibly like fireworks? 145 00:11:06,266 --> 00:11:07,546 Speaker 4: Yes, very much so. 146 00:11:08,646 --> 00:11:09,926 Speaker 3: And how accurate is it? 147 00:11:10,566 --> 00:11:13,106 Speaker 4: Out to 100 yards, you can do a headshot with 148 00:11:13,126 --> 00:11:14,166 Speaker 4: it if you know what you're doing. 149 00:11:16,046 --> 00:11:19,366 Speaker 3: That's a long range, but even at that maximum distance, 150 00:11:19,806 --> 00:11:23,696 Speaker 3: the shooter still might have heard the Bodette girls crying. 151 00:11:26,736 --> 00:11:28,576 Speaker 3: Before we get off the phone, I asked Greg for 152 00:11:28,616 --> 00:11:30,956 Speaker 3: his best guess as to what happened to the zip gun. 153 00:11:31,616 --> 00:11:36,056 Speaker 3: That cake that the prosecutor assumes existed, but which detectives 154 00:11:36,116 --> 00:11:36,756 Speaker 3: never found. 155 00:11:37,736 --> 00:11:43,606 Speaker 4: Once he got the newer, modern Ruger PC-9, he would 156 00:11:43,646 --> 00:11:48,726 Speaker 4: either bury, hide, or stash his previous weapons. I don't 157 00:11:48,826 --> 00:11:51,466 Speaker 4: see him throwing them away because he may need them 158 00:11:51,506 --> 00:11:52,126 Speaker 4: down the road. 159 00:11:55,346 --> 00:11:58,606 Speaker 3: I go back to thinking about the prosecutor's evidence. Based 160 00:11:58,646 --> 00:12:01,576 Speaker 3: on what she presented to the grand jury, there's a 161 00:12:01,616 --> 00:12:09,276 Speaker 3: lot she has and a lot she doesn't have. She 162 00:12:09,316 --> 00:12:12,236 Speaker 3: doesn't have the zip gun, just some pipes and nails 163 00:12:12,716 --> 00:12:16,706 Speaker 3: and spent shells with suspicious markings on them. She doesn't 164 00:12:16,736 --> 00:12:19,466 Speaker 3: have witnesses placing Rauta at the scene of any of 165 00:12:19,506 --> 00:12:22,586 Speaker 3: the near misses. And she doesn't have Rauta in the 166 00:12:22,626 --> 00:12:26,226 Speaker 3: campground at Malibu Creek State Park, with the rifle, at 167 00:12:26,246 --> 00:12:29,826 Speaker 3: the time of the murder. But she does have a 168 00:12:29,906 --> 00:12:33,316 Speaker 3: lot of data from all those electronic devices found in 169 00:12:33,356 --> 00:12:37,736 Speaker 3: Rauta's backpack and at his camp. Mark Donnell, that major 170 00:12:37,776 --> 00:12:41,396 Speaker 3: crimes detective, told the grand jury that location data from 171 00:12:41,416 --> 00:12:43,896 Speaker 3: the devices put Rauta in the general area of the 172 00:12:43,936 --> 00:12:47,346 Speaker 3: park on the dates of many of the crimes. There's 173 00:12:47,386 --> 00:12:50,486 Speaker 3: also the stuff that was stored on the devices. One 174 00:12:50,506 --> 00:12:52,686 Speaker 3: of Rauta's phones had a file on how to make 175 00:12:52,746 --> 00:12:57,616 Speaker 3: zip guns. The Kindle had one called Expedient Homemade Firearms. 176 00:12:59,116 --> 00:13:03,366 Speaker 3: Rauta's search history tells a story, too. Quote, bullet hits 177 00:13:03,466 --> 00:13:09,606 Speaker 3: car gas tank. And, quote, 9mm incendiary bullets. And on 178 00:13:09,626 --> 00:13:13,246 Speaker 3: the morning of the murder, the prosecutor says, Rauta was nearby. 179 00:13:13,986 --> 00:13:18,116 Speaker 3: Andy was awake. An hour before Beaudet was killed, one 180 00:13:18,146 --> 00:13:22,556 Speaker 3: of Rauta's devices pinged on a nearby network, suggesting that 181 00:13:22,616 --> 00:13:27,996 Speaker 3: he was in the area. About 10 minutes after Beaudet 182 00:13:28,016 --> 00:13:34,066 Speaker 3: was killed, Rauta searched breaking news headlines. Here's something else 183 00:13:34,106 --> 00:13:37,366 Speaker 3: the prosecutor has, which will probably be more important in 184 00:13:37,406 --> 00:13:40,166 Speaker 3: the eyes of a future jury than any other single 185 00:13:40,186 --> 00:13:44,766 Speaker 3: piece of evidence. She has the sheriff's department weapons expert. 186 00:13:45,586 --> 00:13:48,966 Speaker 3: He testified to the grand jury that the bullet excavated 187 00:13:49,066 --> 00:13:54,086 Speaker 3: from Tristan Beaudet's right shoulder was fired by Rauta's rifle. 188 00:14:12,026 --> 00:14:15,776 Speaker 3: Beyond positing that Anthony Rauta was a killer bent on killing, 189 00:14:16,876 --> 00:14:21,336 Speaker 3: the prosecutor hasn't offered much about why. Why would he 190 00:14:21,356 --> 00:14:25,846 Speaker 3: have done these things? What would have motivated him? She's 191 00:14:25,876 --> 00:14:29,046 Speaker 3: got ideas about the mechanics, but nothing about the meaning. 192 00:14:30,686 --> 00:14:33,726 Speaker 3: From the research I've been doing, listening to his music, 193 00:14:34,286 --> 00:14:37,806 Speaker 3: listening to him in his letters, reading all those court documents, 194 00:14:38,816 --> 00:14:42,076 Speaker 3: I've started to see some patterns. I wonder if there's 195 00:14:42,116 --> 00:14:44,656 Speaker 3: anything else out there that could help me understand him. 196 00:14:46,716 --> 00:14:48,596 Speaker 3: I head back to the internet to see what else 197 00:14:48,636 --> 00:14:53,576 Speaker 3: I can find out. He's got a couple of LinkedIn pages, 198 00:14:53,596 --> 00:14:58,976 Speaker 3: a WordPress account, all those music-sharing pages. He's Crazy Horse. 199 00:14:59,436 --> 00:15:03,766 Speaker 3: He's Tony Rauta, MC. He was almost in hiding in 200 00:15:03,796 --> 00:15:08,086 Speaker 3: the real world. But online, he really put himself out there. 201 00:15:09,286 --> 00:15:11,976 Speaker 3: I think he wanted to be noticed. as a musician, 202 00:15:11,996 --> 00:15:15,736 Speaker 3: and also as a writer. I search up one of 203 00:15:15,796 --> 00:15:19,976 Speaker 3: his aliases, Crazy Horse Dewan, and that's how I discover 204 00:15:20,756 --> 00:15:25,716 Speaker 3: there's only one way to say it. A pair of manifestos. 205 00:15:27,376 --> 00:15:29,866 Speaker 5: There is a great debate going on now about the 206 00:15:29,886 --> 00:15:31,766 Speaker 5: Illuminati and New World Order. 207 00:15:32,446 --> 00:15:35,766 Speaker 3: This is from one of them. It's called The True Illuminati. 208 00:15:36,486 --> 00:15:41,216 Speaker 3: Rauta posted it in 2018. Like Rauta's letters, His writings 209 00:15:41,256 --> 00:15:43,316 Speaker 3: are being read by an actor and have been lightly 210 00:15:43,416 --> 00:15:44,316 Speaker 3: edited for clarity. 211 00:15:45,176 --> 00:15:47,466 Speaker 5: I first heard of the New World Order through music 212 00:15:47,566 --> 00:15:51,126 Speaker 5: albums in the mid-1990s and the Illuminati a few years 213 00:15:51,186 --> 00:15:52,486 Speaker 5: later through the same channels. 214 00:15:53,286 --> 00:15:57,186 Speaker 3: It's cut-and-paste conspiracy theory that tracks from King David to 215 00:15:57,206 --> 00:16:01,266 Speaker 3: George Washington, Freemasons, Skull and Bones, Morgan Stanley, and the 216 00:16:01,306 --> 00:16:02,046 Speaker 3: founder of FedEx. 217 00:16:03,426 --> 00:16:06,626 Speaker 5: I obviously listened and formed my own opinion. But it 218 00:16:06,666 --> 00:16:09,746 Speaker 5: was only years later when fighting some legal court cases 219 00:16:09,806 --> 00:16:14,046 Speaker 5: that I seen firsthand the existence of these illuminary beings. 220 00:16:14,946 --> 00:16:18,866 Speaker 3: The other manifesto is called The Luciferian Theory. It, too, 221 00:16:18,906 --> 00:16:22,556 Speaker 3: was posted in 2018. On the cover, there's an etching 222 00:16:22,576 --> 00:16:25,976 Speaker 3: of a voluptuous Eve handing an apple to Adam. They're 223 00:16:25,996 --> 00:16:29,676 Speaker 3: naked in the garden, underneath the tree of knowledge. The 224 00:16:29,736 --> 00:16:32,156 Speaker 3: snake dangles from a branch above. 225 00:16:33,436 --> 00:16:35,836 Speaker 5: Just as there is a choice of good and evil... 226 00:16:36,316 --> 00:16:39,706 Speaker 5: A person must decide between a nightmare or a vision 227 00:16:39,986 --> 00:16:43,546 Speaker 5: in their way of thinking. This is where Lucifer dwells. 228 00:16:44,606 --> 00:16:48,646 Speaker 3: The Luciferian theory is named for Lucifer. He was one 229 00:16:48,666 --> 00:16:51,326 Speaker 3: of God's favorites until he tried to overthrow him and 230 00:16:51,346 --> 00:16:52,326 Speaker 3: was cast out of heaven. 231 00:16:53,346 --> 00:16:57,826 Speaker 5: Narcissism and sadism are the foundation of my theory. They 232 00:16:57,866 --> 00:16:59,006 Speaker 5: are the devil's marks. 233 00:17:00,456 --> 00:17:03,596 Speaker 3: After his banishment, Lucifer stopped by the Garden of Eden. 234 00:17:04,676 --> 00:17:07,936 Speaker 5: Now with a God's eye, which means using facts and truth, 235 00:17:08,576 --> 00:17:10,796 Speaker 5: we look into the paradise where what they call the 236 00:17:10,876 --> 00:17:13,916 Speaker 5: stage is set, and Lucifer is about to set a 237 00:17:13,956 --> 00:17:15,496 Speaker 5: scene in how to commit murder. 238 00:17:16,416 --> 00:17:18,236 Speaker 3: Raut is fascinated by Satan. 239 00:17:18,976 --> 00:17:21,676 Speaker 5: Satan was like a snake in the grass, that he 240 00:17:21,696 --> 00:17:24,686 Speaker 5: could still move quickly and strike with one lethal move, 241 00:17:25,326 --> 00:17:28,806 Speaker 5: and that he was cunning and beautiful also plays into 242 00:17:28,846 --> 00:17:29,346 Speaker 5: the story. 243 00:17:30,166 --> 00:17:34,286 Speaker 3: He says he personally has felt Satan's manipulations. 244 00:17:35,416 --> 00:17:38,856 Speaker 5: Through my own experience from my family life, community, my 245 00:17:38,896 --> 00:17:41,996 Speaker 5: short time in the army and the legal system, I 246 00:17:42,036 --> 00:17:46,466 Speaker 5: have seen firsthand what mind games can accomplish or destroy. 247 00:17:48,066 --> 00:17:52,726 Speaker 3: Mind games, he says, lead to pain, trauma, alienation and 248 00:17:53,506 --> 00:17:54,686 Speaker 3: ultimately paranoia. 249 00:17:56,206 --> 00:17:58,736 Speaker 5: One of the most common tactics is to plant doubt 250 00:17:58,896 --> 00:18:02,656 Speaker 5: in the individual, either by sexual inadequacy such as thinking 251 00:18:02,716 --> 00:18:07,406 Speaker 5: of homosexuality when they're not bring out the individual's feelings 252 00:18:07,446 --> 00:18:12,196 Speaker 5: of insecurity, shame, guilt, and by some force or threat 253 00:18:12,316 --> 00:18:16,656 Speaker 5: cause feelings of loneliness. Then once alienated, they hope to 254 00:18:16,736 --> 00:18:22,976 Speaker 5: wear the mind down. Paranoia develops, and the individual begins 255 00:18:23,036 --> 00:18:26,996 Speaker 5: to become suspicious of those close to them. The person 256 00:18:27,036 --> 00:18:30,366 Speaker 5: can feel betrayed of what is true and who to trust. 257 00:18:32,286 --> 00:18:36,066 Speaker 3: Then there's the unfairness. That sense Rauta has that he 258 00:18:36,146 --> 00:18:40,106 Speaker 3: is the victim. That supposedly good people do bad things 259 00:18:40,146 --> 00:18:42,816 Speaker 3: to him, and then he gets punished for it. 260 00:18:44,046 --> 00:18:46,426 Speaker 5: So why did these things happen? Did I do anything 261 00:18:46,466 --> 00:18:47,086 Speaker 5: to these people? 262 00:18:47,466 --> 00:18:47,686 Speaker 1: No. 263 00:18:48,546 --> 00:18:51,326 Speaker 5: Shouldn't these people be suffering a state of hell, and 264 00:18:51,366 --> 00:18:51,846 Speaker 5: not me? 265 00:18:55,126 --> 00:18:59,216 Speaker 3: The manifesto is dated April 9th, 2018. That's two and 266 00:18:59,236 --> 00:19:02,996 Speaker 3: a half months before Tristan Baudet was killed. In it, 267 00:19:03,336 --> 00:19:06,696 Speaker 3: Rauta sounds tortured, like he's in a cosmic battle for 268 00:19:06,736 --> 00:19:11,536 Speaker 3: his soul. Like he said, a person must decide, nightmare 269 00:19:12,136 --> 00:19:12,576 Speaker 3: or vision? 270 00:19:12,596 --> 00:19:14,736 Speaker 4: Immortal vision, I promise you. 271 00:19:14,616 --> 00:19:15,316 Speaker 5: I will not lose my soul. 272 00:19:25,796 --> 00:19:28,836 Speaker 3: The only official assessment I have of Rauta's mental health 273 00:19:29,136 --> 00:19:31,496 Speaker 3: is a form attached to one of his court cases. 274 00:19:32,356 --> 00:19:35,446 Speaker 3: It's a case he brought in 2006 against the California 275 00:19:35,486 --> 00:19:39,886 Speaker 3: Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation, claiming abuse and civil rights 276 00:19:39,906 --> 00:19:44,266 Speaker 3: violations while he was in prison. Next to developmental problem, 277 00:19:44,586 --> 00:19:50,206 Speaker 3: the form says abuse, 11th grade education, GED. If you 278 00:19:50,246 --> 00:19:53,706 Speaker 3: read that as a chronology, it's a pretty awful coming-of-age story. 279 00:19:55,146 --> 00:19:59,506 Speaker 3: The form says that in 2002, Rada twice attempted suicide 280 00:19:59,566 --> 00:20:02,306 Speaker 3: by pills, and that he has a history of alcohol 281 00:20:02,346 --> 00:20:06,366 Speaker 3: and marijuana use, and a history of depression, and PTSD. 282 00:20:07,406 --> 00:20:11,486 Speaker 3: The PTSD stems from an alleged 2003 assault in the L.A. 283 00:20:11,526 --> 00:20:16,226 Speaker 3: County Jail. Rada has documented this allegation elsewhere, that he 284 00:20:16,266 --> 00:20:19,506 Speaker 3: was badly assaulted by five or six other inmates. and 285 00:20:19,526 --> 00:20:23,126 Speaker 3: the deputies failed to protect him. His father, Ozzy, told 286 00:20:23,146 --> 00:20:24,766 Speaker 3: me that the deputies were the ones who left his 287 00:20:24,826 --> 00:20:29,446 Speaker 3: cell open, facilitating the attack. The form says he's been 288 00:20:29,486 --> 00:20:34,686 Speaker 3: prescribed the antidepressant Lexapro and the antipsychotic Risperdal, which at 289 00:20:34,746 --> 00:20:37,366 Speaker 3: low doses can be used to treat depression and at 290 00:20:37,426 --> 00:20:40,926 Speaker 3: high doses is used to treat schizophrenia and bipolar disorder. 291 00:20:42,426 --> 00:20:45,786 Speaker 3: In a letter from jail, Rauta wrote, My mental. 292 00:20:45,546 --> 00:20:48,296 Speaker 5: Health had got worse as I'd gotten older. But living 293 00:20:48,376 --> 00:20:51,536 Speaker 5: alone has helped, even though being alone or in jail 294 00:20:51,596 --> 00:20:54,846 Speaker 5: is what caused it. I'm not sleeping well right now. 295 00:20:55,266 --> 00:20:59,406 Speaker 5: Somehow my thoughts get dark. I do not like taking medication. 296 00:21:00,166 --> 00:21:04,236 Speaker 5: I usually receive counseling when I want, outside or inside. 297 00:21:05,456 --> 00:21:07,356 Speaker 3: He told me that when it's up to him, he 298 00:21:07,376 --> 00:21:11,936 Speaker 3: doesn't take meds. He also said he drinks, sometimes to 299 00:21:11,976 --> 00:21:12,896 Speaker 3: the point of oblivion. 300 00:21:13,636 --> 00:21:15,816 Speaker 5: When I was free, I drank liquor when I could. 301 00:21:16,206 --> 00:21:19,626 Speaker 5: and my memory was sometimes bad. I would forget my age, 302 00:21:19,866 --> 00:21:22,106 Speaker 5: write down what I needed to do so I wouldn't forget. 303 00:21:22,126 --> 00:21:23,866 Speaker 5: I blacked out sometimes. 304 00:21:24,996 --> 00:21:26,776 Speaker 3: Is he trying to tell me that he may have 305 00:21:26,816 --> 00:21:31,436 Speaker 3: done things he doesn't even know he did? I'm trying 306 00:21:31,456 --> 00:21:34,996 Speaker 3: to understand Rauta's psychology, to imagine what his motive could 307 00:21:35,016 --> 00:21:38,536 Speaker 3: have been. What I've been able to assemble, combing through 308 00:21:38,576 --> 00:21:43,546 Speaker 3: his writings and court documents, is a weird, sad, scattered jumble. 309 00:21:44,406 --> 00:21:48,656 Speaker 3: And it's far short of an explanation. Still nothing to 310 00:21:48,696 --> 00:21:54,156 Speaker 3: suggest a why. I decide to call a psychologist. I 311 00:21:54,196 --> 00:21:58,356 Speaker 3: find someone who specializes in adult male offenders, especially the 312 00:21:58,396 --> 00:22:03,046 Speaker 3: connection between childhood trauma and adult deviance. His name is Dr. 313 00:22:03,106 --> 00:22:07,026 Speaker 3: James Revis. He's never examined Anthony Rauta, but he agrees 314 00:22:07,086 --> 00:22:10,306 Speaker 3: to give me some educated guesses. I tell him everything 315 00:22:10,366 --> 00:22:13,316 Speaker 3: I know about Rauta's past, what I've observed, and the 316 00:22:13,356 --> 00:22:14,536 Speaker 3: crimes he's accused of now. 317 00:22:15,636 --> 00:22:18,036 Speaker 1: The heat that you were talking about in regard to 318 00:22:18,076 --> 00:22:23,276 Speaker 1: his emotionality, that to me comes from something that he 319 00:22:23,336 --> 00:22:25,856 Speaker 1: has undergone. You know, in other words, someone has betrayed 320 00:22:25,896 --> 00:22:29,276 Speaker 1: his trust or hurt him, or at least he perceives 321 00:22:29,356 --> 00:22:30,386 Speaker 1: that to be the case. 322 00:22:31,626 --> 00:22:34,106 Speaker 3: Revis says it doesn't sound like Raut is a psychopath. 323 00:22:35,006 --> 00:22:39,966 Speaker 3: He sees him more as, quote, intelligent, wounded, impulsive, obsessional, 324 00:22:40,246 --> 00:22:41,026 Speaker 3: and poorly skilled. 325 00:22:42,006 --> 00:22:44,086 Speaker 1: I just have the sense as you talk that there's 326 00:22:44,106 --> 00:22:47,186 Speaker 1: a lot of heat behind all of these acts, that 327 00:22:47,206 --> 00:22:51,866 Speaker 1: they're not coldly premeditated in the service of gaining some good, 328 00:22:52,686 --> 00:22:54,646 Speaker 1: that there's a lot behind that. 329 00:22:55,746 --> 00:22:58,786 Speaker 3: Radha, he says, sounds like a textbook narcissist. 330 00:22:59,306 --> 00:23:02,586 Speaker 1: You also mentioned that he acted as his own attorney 331 00:23:03,046 --> 00:23:08,516 Speaker 1: in court. And many, many narcissistic criminals will do that. 332 00:23:08,836 --> 00:23:12,636 Speaker 1: Ted Bundy did that, for example. because they believe that 333 00:23:12,676 --> 00:23:15,896 Speaker 1: they are smarter than their own counsel. And so then 334 00:23:15,976 --> 00:23:20,866 Speaker 1: it may be that the murder and the shootings are 335 00:23:20,966 --> 00:23:27,786 Speaker 1: sort of a narcissistic compensation for feelings of insecurity. My 336 00:23:27,866 --> 00:23:31,416 Speaker 1: guess is it may make him feel very, very powerful. 337 00:23:32,016 --> 00:23:34,536 Speaker 1: If in fact he set fires, it may make him 338 00:23:34,616 --> 00:23:37,856 Speaker 1: feel very, very powerful. It's his way of sort of 339 00:23:37,916 --> 00:23:39,656 Speaker 1: giving the middle finger to the world. 340 00:23:40,676 --> 00:23:44,836 Speaker 3: I've witnessed Rauta do exactly, literally this. Give the middle 341 00:23:44,876 --> 00:23:46,976 Speaker 3: finger to the TV cameras in court. 342 00:23:47,776 --> 00:23:52,656 Speaker 1: My guess is what's happening is it makes him feel omnipotent, all-powerful. 343 00:23:53,356 --> 00:23:56,946 Speaker 1: And probably in that moment, it's massively relieving of all 344 00:23:56,966 --> 00:23:59,256 Speaker 1: of these other negative tensions inside of him. 345 00:24:00,486 --> 00:24:04,666 Speaker 3: So shooting cars and people could make him feel masculine, powerful, 346 00:24:04,946 --> 00:24:09,746 Speaker 3: and important. Godlike, even. Getting to decide who lives and 347 00:24:09,786 --> 00:24:13,346 Speaker 3: who dies. It could be very satisfying for someone who's 348 00:24:13,406 --> 00:24:15,446 Speaker 3: identified as a victim for so long. 349 00:24:16,366 --> 00:24:20,486 Speaker 1: He's going away with a bang. If he's doing these things, 350 00:24:20,546 --> 00:24:23,866 Speaker 1: he's pronouncing that he's still there. He's going away and 351 00:24:23,906 --> 00:24:27,566 Speaker 1: then coming back and engaging in aggression. So to me, 352 00:24:27,746 --> 00:24:30,466 Speaker 1: it's anger, narcissism, and paranoia. 353 00:24:32,526 --> 00:24:35,946 Speaker 3: Well, that's one person, anyway, who can figure an explanation 354 00:24:36,026 --> 00:24:40,796 Speaker 3: for a series of violent crimes against unsuspecting strangers. But 355 00:24:40,836 --> 00:24:44,966 Speaker 3: in his letters and in court, Rauta keeps saying he's innocent. 356 00:24:46,886 --> 00:24:50,326 Speaker 3: I go back to his writings, the manifesto he published 357 00:24:50,586 --> 00:24:55,066 Speaker 3: just before Tristan Beaudet's murder. I force myself to reread 358 00:24:55,386 --> 00:25:01,516 Speaker 3: the Luciferian theory. Rauta makes a lot of connections. There's 359 00:25:01,576 --> 00:25:04,756 Speaker 3: stuff about the third eye, the sun, and there's a 360 00:25:04,816 --> 00:25:09,356 Speaker 3: lot about Lucifer. Lucifer equals light equals enlightenment. 361 00:25:10,546 --> 00:25:13,356 Speaker 5: To stay on this subject, my theory of an ancient 362 00:25:13,416 --> 00:25:17,336 Speaker 5: secret knowledge being passed down through history by Lucifer, the 363 00:25:17,376 --> 00:25:20,876 Speaker 5: name Lucifer literally means the morning star, the planet Venus, 364 00:25:20,956 --> 00:25:24,486 Speaker 5: or as light bringing, onto the highest of initiates. 365 00:25:25,566 --> 00:25:29,506 Speaker 3: Lucifer, the name, actually means the one who brings the light, 366 00:25:30,166 --> 00:25:34,066 Speaker 3: the morning star, first light. That makes me think about 367 00:25:34,086 --> 00:25:37,136 Speaker 3: the timing of the crimes, just before the morning light. 368 00:25:38,456 --> 00:25:42,156 Speaker 3: And something I'd skimmed right past before jumps out at 369 00:25:42,196 --> 00:25:46,356 Speaker 3: me this time. Rauta makes a reference to St. John's Day, 370 00:25:46,716 --> 00:25:50,386 Speaker 3: the feast day of John the Baptist. It's in late June, 371 00:25:50,536 --> 00:25:52,846 Speaker 3: and it's a big deal to Freemasons. Some of the 372 00:25:52,886 --> 00:25:57,466 Speaker 3: Illuminati Rauta frets about the most. He writes that it, quote, 373 00:25:57,806 --> 00:26:00,546 Speaker 3: happens to be Midsummer's Day, the day the sun is 374 00:26:00,606 --> 00:26:05,616 Speaker 3: at its strongest. Midsummer's Day, the day the sun is 375 00:26:05,676 --> 00:26:09,126 Speaker 3: at its strongest, is the solstice, the longest day of 376 00:26:09,166 --> 00:26:13,246 Speaker 3: the year. It's a day that, in old religious myths, 377 00:26:13,386 --> 00:26:16,466 Speaker 3: represents a turning point in the battle between light and shadow, 378 00:26:17,306 --> 00:26:21,706 Speaker 3: when the Winter King begins his ascendance, by killing the 379 00:26:21,746 --> 00:26:28,936 Speaker 3: Summer King. In 2018, Midsummer's Day was June 21st, the 380 00:26:28,996 --> 00:26:34,056 Speaker 3: day Tristan Beaudet took his children camping. the last day 381 00:26:34,256 --> 00:26:35,516 Speaker 3: of Tristan Beaudet's life. 382 00:26:36,516 --> 00:26:40,516 Speaker 2: ¶ ¶ ¶ ¶. 383 00:27:05,366 --> 00:27:07,486 Speaker 3: I've been living with Anthony Rauta for two and a 384 00:27:07,526 --> 00:27:11,566 Speaker 3: half years now. My office is full of his stuff. 385 00:27:13,006 --> 00:27:14,656 Speaker 3: At one end of my desk, I keep a stack 386 00:27:14,676 --> 00:27:17,876 Speaker 3: of books on how to disappear, how to survive an apocalypse, 387 00:27:18,106 --> 00:27:20,316 Speaker 3: live off the land, build a bomb, or make a 388 00:27:20,336 --> 00:27:24,036 Speaker 3: gun from scratch. They're all books I know he's owned 389 00:27:24,076 --> 00:27:26,796 Speaker 3: at one time or another in his life. I've got 390 00:27:26,896 --> 00:27:32,376 Speaker 3: file boxes of notebooks, court filings, letters, his lists of grievances, misdirections, 391 00:27:32,636 --> 00:27:34,636 Speaker 3: red herrings, split hairs. 392 00:27:36,346 --> 00:27:38,956 Speaker 5: Why has no one asked law enforcement why they have lied? 393 00:27:40,116 --> 00:27:42,896 Speaker 5: Why has no lawyer wished to represent me? Why has 394 00:27:42,916 --> 00:27:45,416 Speaker 5: no one tried to prove my accusations of the sheriff's 395 00:27:45,436 --> 00:27:48,856 Speaker 5: assaulting me as lies? Why did the sheriff tell the 396 00:27:48,916 --> 00:27:51,076 Speaker 5: media I was a suspect in the murder of Mr. 397 00:27:51,116 --> 00:27:54,466 Speaker 5: Beaudet on the day of my arrest, when the rifle 398 00:27:54,486 --> 00:27:57,326 Speaker 5: had not been tested and I did not admit any wrongdoing? 399 00:27:58,346 --> 00:28:00,446 Speaker 5: Why is there no direct evidence leading me to the 400 00:28:00,486 --> 00:28:04,266 Speaker 5: attempted murder? when the Sheriff's Department official statement to Lieutenant 401 00:28:04,306 --> 00:28:08,136 Speaker 5: Royal is that these crimes were not connected. Why did 402 00:28:08,156 --> 00:28:12,196 Speaker 5: Lieutenant Royal's investigation not lead to any suspects? The media's 403 00:28:12,236 --> 00:28:15,076 Speaker 5: portrayal of me has been slanderous. I have not been 404 00:28:15,116 --> 00:28:16,156 Speaker 5: to Malibu in years. 405 00:28:17,736 --> 00:28:19,876 Speaker 3: I spend a lot of time looking at his drawings, 406 00:28:20,856 --> 00:28:23,976 Speaker 3: especially one that was published in a prison literary magazine 407 00:28:24,236 --> 00:28:29,186 Speaker 3: in 2016, the year he was most recently released. On 408 00:28:29,206 --> 00:28:32,496 Speaker 3: the left are two cops, surrounded by little word bubbles 409 00:28:32,556 --> 00:28:37,196 Speaker 3: that say 911. On the right, a snake and an apple, 410 00:28:37,736 --> 00:28:40,926 Speaker 3: with a bite out of it. Above that, the gates 411 00:28:40,986 --> 00:28:44,466 Speaker 3: of Eden, with Adam and Eve standing underneath a radiant 412 00:28:44,546 --> 00:28:49,226 Speaker 3: tree of knowledge. They look like they're walking away, to 413 00:28:49,246 --> 00:28:53,786 Speaker 3: the east of Eden, after the fall. I feel like 414 00:28:53,886 --> 00:28:56,636 Speaker 3: I know Rauta a little now, and I think he's 415 00:28:56,696 --> 00:29:00,216 Speaker 3: grafted this story of paradise and loss onto his own, 416 00:29:02,066 --> 00:29:05,706 Speaker 3: And his artist name, Crazy Horse, it's not random either. 417 00:29:06,986 --> 00:29:10,046 Speaker 3: The original Crazy Horse defeated Custer's army at the Battle 418 00:29:10,086 --> 00:29:13,156 Speaker 3: of the Little Bighorn. He met the army in steep 419 00:29:13,236 --> 00:29:17,236 Speaker 3: and treacherous terrain, then killed Custer and every last one 420 00:29:17,276 --> 00:29:21,316 Speaker 3: of his men. That sounds like a Rauta revenge fantasy 421 00:29:21,396 --> 00:29:27,236 Speaker 3: come true. And you know how Crazy Horse died? Resisting imprisonment. 422 00:29:27,256 --> 00:29:30,066 Speaker 3: I don't like it when you fall in love and 423 00:29:30,086 --> 00:29:35,366 Speaker 3: rather better be off dead. Rauta says he's not guilty, 424 00:29:35,786 --> 00:29:38,736 Speaker 3: and the trial will determine that. But here's what I think. 425 00:29:41,216 --> 00:29:44,276 Speaker 3: Part of Anthony Rauta wants to be left alone. Part 426 00:29:44,316 --> 00:29:47,766 Speaker 3: of him is dying for a fight. And now that 427 00:29:47,806 --> 00:29:50,456 Speaker 3: I know about his hatred of police... his long and 428 00:29:50,496 --> 00:29:54,216 Speaker 3: contentious relationship with the Lost Hills cops, I have my 429 00:29:54,296 --> 00:29:58,116 Speaker 3: own theory of the case. It was never about Tristan 430 00:29:58,136 --> 00:30:01,316 Speaker 3: Beaudet or campers or someone getting in his way as 431 00:30:01,356 --> 00:30:05,466 Speaker 3: he was stealing food. I think Rauta camped behind Lost 432 00:30:05,506 --> 00:30:08,586 Speaker 3: Hills Station and started shooting off his guns to make 433 00:30:08,766 --> 00:30:11,736 Speaker 3: fools of the cops. to draw them into a fight 434 00:30:12,276 --> 00:30:16,356 Speaker 3: in treacherous terrain where he was comfortable, to kill them 435 00:30:17,096 --> 00:30:20,726 Speaker 3: or be killed. One of the cops told me that 436 00:30:20,746 --> 00:30:23,906 Speaker 3: during Rauta's arrest, he was shouting at the deputies stuff like, 437 00:30:24,406 --> 00:30:35,686 Speaker 3: kill me, fucking shoot me, before I get you. On 438 00:30:35,726 --> 00:30:38,026 Speaker 3: my desk, I keep a map I printed out that 439 00:30:38,086 --> 00:30:41,706 Speaker 3: covers Malibu Creek State Park and the surrounding area. It's 440 00:30:41,886 --> 00:30:47,526 Speaker 3: annotated with every crime Rauta is accused of. Dates, victims, jurisdiction, ammunition. 441 00:30:48,526 --> 00:30:51,896 Speaker 3: I also marked Rauta's camp, north of a hairpin turn 442 00:30:52,116 --> 00:30:55,136 Speaker 3: on Mulholland Highway. I need to get out there. I 443 00:30:55,956 --> 00:31:00,856 Speaker 3: still haven't been. I search my inbox for correspondence with Lou, 444 00:31:01,176 --> 00:31:02,756 Speaker 3: the guy in the MAGA hat that I met on 445 00:31:02,776 --> 00:31:05,736 Speaker 3: the tour of Malibu Creek State Park. I remember he 446 00:31:05,766 --> 00:31:09,256 Speaker 3: said he'd take me to Radda's camp. And that's how 447 00:31:09,296 --> 00:31:11,576 Speaker 3: I come across a photo album that Lou shared with 448 00:31:11,616 --> 00:31:14,276 Speaker 3: me a while back, pictures he took when he went 449 00:31:14,296 --> 00:31:16,796 Speaker 3: to Radda's camp a few weeks after he was arrested. 450 00:31:18,516 --> 00:31:20,896 Speaker 3: I click through them again. I've looked at them a 451 00:31:20,936 --> 00:31:24,986 Speaker 3: handful of times, always with a vaguely disappointed feeling. They 452 00:31:25,026 --> 00:31:29,846 Speaker 3: look like nothing. Dry gray and brown leaves littering the hillsides, 453 00:31:30,246 --> 00:31:31,166 Speaker 3: pieces of blue tarp. 454 00:31:31,186 --> 00:31:32,366 Speaker 1: Boring. Boring. 455 00:31:34,016 --> 00:31:37,056 Speaker 3: But this time, I see something I never noticed before. 456 00:31:37,856 --> 00:31:39,876 Speaker 3: In one of the pictures, there's a piece of scrap 457 00:31:39,916 --> 00:31:44,036 Speaker 3: wood that looks almost like garbage. It's roughly L-shaped, with 458 00:31:44,156 --> 00:31:47,396 Speaker 3: all kinds of crude notches and cuts. An odd shape, 459 00:31:47,666 --> 00:31:51,526 Speaker 3: like a puzzle piece. By now, I've spent a lot 460 00:31:51,546 --> 00:31:54,306 Speaker 3: of time looking at diagrams and images of homemade guns. 461 00:31:55,066 --> 00:31:59,926 Speaker 3: In Rauta's books, on YouTube. Am I seeing what I 462 00:31:59,986 --> 00:32:04,176 Speaker 3: think I'm seeing? This piece of wood looks to me 463 00:32:04,236 --> 00:32:07,886 Speaker 3: like the frame for a zip gun. Maybe the last 464 00:32:07,946 --> 00:32:12,246 Speaker 3: ingredient Rauta would have needed to bake the cake. And 465 00:32:12,266 --> 00:32:19,566 Speaker 3: it was in his camp. I call up Greg Block again. 466 00:32:20,006 --> 00:32:24,146 Speaker 3: He's the weapons expert. Okay, can you, yeah, describe what 467 00:32:24,166 --> 00:32:24,586 Speaker 3: you see. 468 00:32:25,466 --> 00:32:29,106 Speaker 4: It doesn't look like a random piece of wood. It 469 00:32:29,166 --> 00:32:34,106 Speaker 4: looks like it was made... to do something or be something. 470 00:32:34,126 --> 00:32:39,066 Speaker 4: I mean, it's got a lot of cuts in it 471 00:32:39,506 --> 00:32:41,346 Speaker 4: that are made for a certain reason. 472 00:32:42,366 --> 00:32:44,686 Speaker 3: On one side, there's what looks like a handle or 473 00:32:44,726 --> 00:32:47,266 Speaker 3: a way to grip it. Above that, part of the 474 00:32:47,306 --> 00:32:50,826 Speaker 3: wood has been removed, possibly to make space for a barrel. 475 00:32:51,926 --> 00:32:54,086 Speaker 3: And just in front of the grip is another series 476 00:32:54,126 --> 00:32:57,306 Speaker 3: of cuts, notches in a zigzag line. 477 00:32:58,306 --> 00:32:59,266 Speaker 4: Those notches. 478 00:33:00,566 --> 00:33:04,806 Speaker 4: Are very crude and rudimentary. It was done by hand. 479 00:33:05,936 --> 00:33:08,516 Speaker 4: And then you'd have to ask, why is that piece 480 00:33:08,556 --> 00:33:14,396 Speaker 4: of wood in this area? It is definitely suspicious. It's 481 00:33:14,436 --> 00:33:17,096 Speaker 4: been cut and designed for one thing. 482 00:33:17,596 --> 00:33:18,016 Speaker 3: Which is? 483 00:33:18,736 --> 00:33:22,116 Speaker 4: Something to launch a projectile, commonly referred to as a 484 00:33:22,136 --> 00:33:22,676 Speaker 4: zip gun. 485 00:33:26,626 --> 00:33:29,206 Speaker 3: The investigators knew they were looking for a zip gun. 486 00:33:30,066 --> 00:33:32,756 Speaker 3: And they knew they hadn't found all the necessary elements. 487 00:33:33,756 --> 00:33:37,216 Speaker 3: So if you're law enforcement and you know you're looking 488 00:33:37,236 --> 00:33:39,696 Speaker 3: for a zip gun and you see this on the ground, 489 00:33:40,536 --> 00:33:40,976 Speaker 3: what do you do? 490 00:33:42,176 --> 00:33:43,276 Speaker 4: You take it as evidence. 491 00:33:45,726 --> 00:33:49,466 Speaker 3: This idea is so crazy. I call up a couple 492 00:33:49,506 --> 00:33:52,826 Speaker 3: of hardcore gun geeks, YouTubers who make guns all the time. 493 00:33:53,846 --> 00:33:56,696 Speaker 3: We talk about the limitations of the photograph. It's taken 494 00:33:56,736 --> 00:33:59,556 Speaker 3: from above, so it doesn't show the object in three dimensions. 495 00:34:00,176 --> 00:34:06,596 Speaker 3: Close inspection might yield other interpretations. But still, they both say, yeah, 496 00:34:07,276 --> 00:34:10,156 Speaker 3: I can see that. It's not crazy to think this 497 00:34:10,216 --> 00:34:13,066 Speaker 3: might be a prototype or a rough draft. One of 498 00:34:13,086 --> 00:34:15,366 Speaker 3: them says, I can make a zip gun out of that. 499 00:34:16,986 --> 00:34:19,926 Speaker 3: Law enforcement never found the weapon used in near misses 500 00:34:20,046 --> 00:34:23,686 Speaker 3: one through five. They found some elements, pipes and nails, 501 00:34:24,046 --> 00:34:27,996 Speaker 3: but nothing close to a finished product. Could this be 502 00:34:28,026 --> 00:34:33,226 Speaker 3: the missing ingredient? The cops combed through Rauta's camp multiple times, 503 00:34:33,626 --> 00:34:36,076 Speaker 3: and no one picked it up. And you know what 504 00:34:36,096 --> 00:34:39,496 Speaker 3: happened the day after Lou took that photo? The Woolsey fire. 505 00:34:42,776 --> 00:34:45,956 Speaker 3: So now, in all likelihood, it's been reduced to ash. 506 00:34:46,836 --> 00:34:51,306 Speaker 3: And all that exists is this photograph. Zip guns have 507 00:34:51,346 --> 00:34:57,686 Speaker 3: another name. They're known as ghost guns. They're untraceable. They disappear. 508 00:34:57,706 --> 00:35:06,926 Speaker 3: They disappear. I'm having a holy shit kind of realization. 509 00:35:08,286 --> 00:35:10,346 Speaker 3: But it's not that I think I've discovered the lost 510 00:35:10,406 --> 00:35:14,166 Speaker 3: puzzle piece that solves the Rauta case. It's that law 511 00:35:14,186 --> 00:35:19,926 Speaker 3: enforcement overlooked this. An object at Rauta's camp that your 512 00:35:20,026 --> 00:35:22,376 Speaker 3: average gun geek on YouTube could make a weapon from. 513 00:35:24,796 --> 00:35:29,016 Speaker 3: The Los Angeles Sheriff's Department, of course, won't comment. But 514 00:35:29,136 --> 00:35:32,496 Speaker 3: I can't stop wondering, how could they have missed this? 515 00:35:33,456 --> 00:35:37,416 Speaker 3: How could they not see it? It's almost like denying 516 00:35:37,456 --> 00:35:40,476 Speaker 3: the existence of the Canyon shooter became a habit that 517 00:35:40,526 --> 00:35:44,266 Speaker 3: law enforcement couldn't break. They were so used to saying 518 00:35:44,306 --> 00:35:46,886 Speaker 3: that there was nothing going on out there, no mystery 519 00:35:46,926 --> 00:35:52,566 Speaker 3: to solve, that they couldn't recognize what was right before 520 00:35:52,606 --> 00:35:53,046 Speaker 3: their eyes. 521 00:35:54,046 --> 00:35:56,046 Speaker 2: ¶ ¶. 522 00:36:22,146 --> 00:36:25,266 Speaker 3: Lost Hills is written and hosted by me, Dana Goodyear. 523 00:36:25,906 --> 00:36:29,726 Speaker 3: It's produced by Western Sound and Pushkin Industries. For more 524 00:36:29,756 --> 00:36:33,656 Speaker 3: information about my investigation, follow at Lost Hills Pod on 525 00:36:33,696 --> 00:36:38,656 Speaker 3: social media. Up next, Episode 8. East of Eden.