WEBVTT - New Leadership with Harmeet Dhillon 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:03.320 We're all very familiar at this point that Republicans fell 0:00:03.400 --> 0:00:05.800 short in the mid term elections. We did not do 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:08.440 as well as we had hoped. We have not seen 0:00:08.480 --> 0:00:11.200 any changes as a result of that, though, as a 0:00:11.240 --> 0:00:13.800 result of those failures, as a result of coming up short, 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:17.520 we just saw Kevin McCarthy elected as Speaker of the House. 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:20.959 Mitch mccaddell has been re elected as Minority leader in 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:24.400 the Senate. However, there's still an opportunity to make changes 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:27.640 happen in leadership, and that's at the RNC. There is 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:30.040 a race that is underway right now to be the 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:34.320 chair of the RNC. Her Meat Dylan has challenged Rona McDaniel, 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:37.360 who has been there through the mid term election where 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:40.400 we lost. The two thousand twenty two midterm elections that 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:43.040 we just did, we had her performed, we didn't do 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:44.680 as well as we had hoped. So we're going to 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:46.640 talk to her and meet Dylan about why she is 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:51.199 challenging Rona McDaniel, what she hopes to accomplish, what changes 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:55.000 would she like to see made at the RNC, you know, 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:58.360 what our challenges moving forward as the Republican Party, and 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:00.000 and what does she want to do about mail and ballot. 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:02.720 So many questions for her. Meet Dylan, who is running 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:04.960 to be RNC chair. So we'll get her take on 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:07.080 all of those, really figure out where she's coming from, 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:10.039 why she's running, and what she would hope to accomplish 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:12.160 as the RNC chair. Also, you know, what does she 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:16.280 think about the upcoming presidential election? How would she shape that, 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:18.280 how would she guide that? So we'll talk to her 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:20.160 about all of it. If you're unfamiliar with her, Meet Dylan. 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:22.520 She's on Fox all the time. But even more importantly, 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:26.279 she has fought for conservative causes as an attorney, fighting 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:29.800 for civil liberties. As a constitutional attorney, she helped launch 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:34.040 the nonprofit Center for American Liberty in two thousand eighteen. 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:36.520 She is also the founder of a law practice called 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:39.560 Dylan Law Group. I mean, we're talking about even during COVID, 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:43.720 standing up against states, filing lawsuits against the state of 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:47.400 California challenging its stay at home order, fighting on behalf 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:51.360 of businesses, fighting on behalf of restaurants, fighting on behalf 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:54.880 of people who had their constitutional rights violated. She also 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:57.440 filed lawsuits against the governor's in New Jersey and Virginia 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:00.200 at that time over the restrictions on religious service is 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:02.880 so this is someone who not only talks to talk, 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:05.080 but she walks the walk and she wins. I hope 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:07.400 you enjoyed this conversation with her, meat Dylan. I hope 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:09.280 you learn a little bit more about her and what 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:12.400 she would hope to accomplish if she is elected. Stay 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:30.200 tuned herd me before we get to the RNC race, 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:32.960 which is really important and I want to spend most 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:34.919 of the time talking about that. I wanted to get 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:39.240 your take on Joe Biden's mishandling of classified information after 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:43.480 he criticized Donald Trump for mishandling of classified information. Turns 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:46.919 out that he has been holding documents for years now 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:50.320 at multiple locations. Well, I think Joe Biden's got a 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:58.240 real problem because President Trump has multiple defenses to claims 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:00.359 that he's mishandled the documents. First of all, he was 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:06.000 the commander in chief and was legitimately able to and 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:09.520 contend that he declassified the documents that are being disputed 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:13.480 at Mara. Lago said, even if they weren't declassified, if 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:18.399 you accept the alternate interpretation of that situation, he had 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:21.080 the right under the presidential Records Act to hold on 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:23.800 to these documents for a period of time to sort 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:28.400 through them and and then analyze what should be turned 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:34.200 over to the National Archives. Joe Biden, by contrast, got 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:37.160 possession of these documents as the Vice president of the 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:42.160 United States. He has since that time been responsible for 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:46.600 their move not once, not twice, but at least three times. 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:49.560 And there may be other document caches based on the 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:51.440 pattern that we're seeing. So he moved them out of 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:55.760 the White House or his Vice presidential offices, moved them 0:03:55.760 --> 0:04:00.400 into one building, moved them into another building, and he's 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:04.480 had various roles and lived in at least one home 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:08.480 and spends every other weekend, it seems, in some luxurious 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:12.080 vacation rental. And so there are probably multiple locations that 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:15.880 if the Department of Justice and National Archives are serious 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:18.560 about finding these documents, they should be searching right now. 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:22.800 But I see no evidence of that. And ultimately, the 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:26.560 other major distinction with the former vice president is the 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:30.719 number of people around him who are appeared to be 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:35.880 compromised by their relationships with foreign governments. This specifically includes 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:40.520 Hunter Biden, James Biden to some degree, I would say 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:43.600 even the Vice president, former vice president current president himself. 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:48.159 Both China, Ukraine and possibly other countries have had their 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:55.320 hands out for relationships with the name Biden and provided 0:04:56.720 --> 0:05:00.400 very lucrative remuneration in exchange for that. On one of 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:03.719 the documents mentioned in the first trench of Documents and 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:06.880 the presses it relates to the Ukraine. So you have 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:09.560 to wonder why are these specific documents the ones that 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:13.359 are in the former vice president's possession? Who had access 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:17.120 to them? Some news reports suggests that in the case 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:21.719 of the pen office, a Chinese operative had keys and 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:27.600 access to this workspace. And and what happened in response 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:30.920 to review of these documents? Who reviewed them? So I 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:34.480 think it's good that the form that the Attorney General 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:38.760 is now appointed a special prosecutor here. But for months, 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:43.200 this whole fact pattern was the subject of a cover up. Specifically, 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:46.320 the possession of these documents came to light at least 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:48.880 in early November, but it was concealed from the American 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:53.599 public until a a house was seated that was likely 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:58.080 to begin issuing subpoena. You know, again, yet again you 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:02.360 have the intelligence apper at us making moves to affect 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:05.039 the outcome of an election. Uh, this is this is 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:08.400 the second case involving the Biden's um. You might argue 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:11.400 that the whole Ashley Biden raid against Project Veritas would 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:14.359 be another example. So this is the exact kind of 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:18.640 weaponization of our intelligence services that that I hope the 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:21.680 House is serious about investigating as they promised to do 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:25.880 in the Congress. And in the timing is weird too, 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:29.599 of you know, this just now coming to light. But 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:32.520 to your point, maybe it's because House. You know, Republicans 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:34.800 have taken over the House and investigations are going to 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:38.719 be underway. Um. You know, we did not get changes 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:42.479 to congressional leadership. However, we still have an opportunity to 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:45.240 make changes that the R and C, which one would 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:48.159 think would be important given you know, a poor performance 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:52.440 in the midterm elections. Uh. You know, for those unfamiliar, 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:57.280 how do these RNC elections work for the position of chair. Well, 0:06:57.279 --> 0:07:01.159 there are hundred sixty voters in total, and it's a 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:05.400 majority vote, but a secret ballot, and we have the 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:09.000 deadline was earlier today to complete nomination. So to be nominated, 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:13.520 you have to have two members of the three members 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:16.960 from each of three separate states nominate per office. And 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:20.440 so I've qualified for the chair position, so as RANA, 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:25.480 we also have contested co chair and treasurer races, and 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:27.880 all of that's going to be voted on in Danta Point, 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.760 California in our winter. Are at beating in two weeks, 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:33.680 two weeks from today, we may have a new chair 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:37.160 of the r n C UM And so it's all 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:42.880 a lot of horse trading and lobbying. This is a 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:48.080 race against an entrenched incumbent who is you know, utilizing 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:50.400 all the assets of the r n C in this race, 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:55.040 press office, employees of the RNC, consultants of the r 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:59.960 n C, you know, one prominent Fox News contributors paid 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:02.080 by the r n C, and you know was making 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:06.120 statements on the FLA VRATA earlier in this campaign. So 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:09.200 you know that's what I'm up against. It I may 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:13.200 sort of David versus Golife campaign. I have had the 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:15.600 support of many members of the r n C, agree 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:17.240 with growing number of members of the r n C. 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:21.520 UH certainly the vast majority of the grassroots Republican voters 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:25.200 in the country and Republican Party activists are supporting change 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:28.680 at the RNC and specifically supporting me. A number of 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:31.400 states have held votes on the leadership of the r 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:33.000 and C, and each of the states that has held 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:37.840 votes on it has overwhelmingly voted for me or for change, 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:43.679 or both, and increasingly major donors in the conservative world 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:46.000 have come out to support me. And this is in 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:51.760 response to one of the claims of the incumbents supporters 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:54.120 is that she's a very good at fundraising if you 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:58.079 look at those facts. Actually, um, I think Donald Trump's 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:01.120 name has been very to have been fundraising for the 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:04.640 Republican National Committee. And when you have the White House, 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:06.360 it's pretty easy to raise money. When you don't have 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:08.440 the White House, it's not that easy to raise money, 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:11.720 and in fact, our fundraising numbers show that. And when 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:14.920 you are losing elections, it's hard to raise money. And 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:18.959 when you are adopting and promoting the same old, stale 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:23.040 leadership and consultant driven policymaking that we have at the 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:25.520 r n C, I think the RNC is going to 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:27.800 find it very difficult to raise funds unless we have 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:29.920 a decisive change in leadership at the top. And so 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:33.000 I'm gratified this week to have had at the beginning 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:36.640 of the week more than two dozen major Republican mega 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:41.680 donors and bundlers in a million dollar type range stated 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:44.520 that they would not support the party until there was change. 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:50.199 Bernie Marcus, the co founder of Home Depot billionaire donor, 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:54.600 endorsed us on Wednesday, and today we had two major 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:58.160 donors as well. One is Dick you Line, another Megadona 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:02.840 billionaire who has long supported men, many, many many Republican 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:06.960 candidates and causes, endorsed me today as well as Murph Burke, 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:11.960 who is a prominent Wisconsin donor and philanthropist who is 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:17.960 also interestingly on our Wisconsin RNC Convention committee, which itself 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:20.679 has to raise millions of dollars. So you have people 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:24.200 at every level in the Republican donor ecosystem demanding change. 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:26.840 I don't know how the party can continue to ignore that. 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:29.640 I think we actually have a fiduciary duty to look 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:32.120 at who's the more likely in this scenario to be 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:35.520 able to raise the funds that the party needs to 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:41.480 use efficiently to distribute to states and to campaigns. Uh 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:45.080 with with with support of field staff and things like that, 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:49.400 and data and other assets to elect Republicans. It's that basic, 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:51.480 and so you know, we hope they get able. We 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:53.080 were able to convince the rest of the people to 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:56.000 support Yeah, and to your point in Tiger Group recently 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:58.920 did a poll finding the eighty six percent of Republicans 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:00.959 want you to be chair over Rona McDaniel to your 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:03.400 point of the grassroots winning change and wanting you to 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:06.720 be that change. And you mentioned raising money, which obviously 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:09.920 raising money is important in elections, but it's also what 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:12.319 do you do with that money and are you effective 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:14.760 in spending that money? And what we've seen is the 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:18.160 challenge of mail in ballots that has had a big 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:21.320 impact on the past two election cycles. How do you 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:24.800 plan on tackling that challenge with mail and balloting? Yeah, 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:28.760 great question. So, first of all, mail and balloting has 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:31.000 been a thing in many states for some time. And 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:33.199 you know, like some of the more rural states in 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:39.360 the country, Utahn and Oregon, they've had all mail in 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:43.400 balloting for for a long while. In California we've had 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:47.320 what we call no excuse abstintee balloting for for decades. 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:53.120 And during COVID, Democrats pretty much made this the norm 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:56.559 and the majority of states and that laws has stayed 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:59.560 in place despite the fact that COVID is effectively over 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:03.280 so there are two ways to deal with it. You 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:09.800 can sit on your behind, continue to call elections election 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:14.160 day operations and pretend like nothing has changed, which is 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:18.640 unfortunately the approach we've been adopting. Or you can be 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:22.360 smart about it and compete with the Democrats, which is 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:27.000 what a handful of states have been doing effectively California, Florida, 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:31.480 some others, and adapt and we have to adapt or die. 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:35.480 It's it's that diarist situation. And so until we can 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:38.600 change the election laws to the way we like them, 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:43.720 which is voter I D and no same day registration 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:51.199 and really tight requirements around absentee ballots, combined with very 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:57.679 clean voter rolls, we must defeat and outperform the Democrats 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:00.480 in hustling our ballots into the ballot box. And so 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:03.840 for many years we've had this emotional type of approach 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:06.880 to appeal to voters to go and you know, stand 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:10.720 in line and vote in person symbolically on election day, 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:13.800 and the Democrats don't have that problem. So I've heard 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:15.599 a lot of excuses out of the current leadership for 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:19.360 the party saying, well, you know, Donald Trump picked bad candidates, 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:22.720 and there was candidate selection issues, and there was ticket 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:25.719 splitting and blah blah blah. But let's keep in mind 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:28.880 who the Democrats have been able to elect with their machine. 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:32.920 Joe Biden the biggest liar in American politics. And that's 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:36.800 you know, even next to George Santos, Joe Biden is 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:40.920 still by far the biggest liar. You look at John Fetterman, 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:44.439 who couldn't even speak for much of his campaign because 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:48.000 of his stroke. You have Katie Hobbs, who wouldn't debate 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:51.600 in Arizona and became the governor over a much more 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:55.559 articulate and I think appealing candidate, and so all of 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:57.600 that adds up to it doesn't matter who the Democrats 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:01.080 put up, because they have perfected the art of getting 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:05.839 their voters ballots into the ballot boxes, not getting their 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:10.000 voters to the polls. It's a very important distinction. Most 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:12.320 of those Democrat voters never see the inside of a 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:15.120 polling place anymore. In Arizona on election day where I 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:18.959 was on the ground, the voters on election day were 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:22.640 Republican voters. And so we lose every time if we 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:24.800 let the Democrats set the agenda with us like that, 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:28.080 and what it requires for us to outperform Democrats is 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:30.560 a couple of things. First of all, a national strategic 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:35.440 plan from the R and C. And then training and 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:39.400 financial resources because when you go from election day operations 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:42.280 to election month operations, it's going to cost more money. 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:45.280 You may also have to train and recruit more volunteers 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:49.480 and put them in and shifts. Uh. It's it's an 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:52.320 organizational challenge that the party has not been up to, 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:54.600 but it's not that difficult. If it were that difficult, 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:57.360 Democrats couldn't luster it, and they have and so I 0:14:57.440 --> 0:14:58.680 think we can do it, but we have to have 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:01.000 a will to do it. I haven't heard the current 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:03.280 share talk about it at all, and I think that's 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:06.560 because she's intimidated by the fact that many Republican Party 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:09.240 activists don't like what I just said. And I don't 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:11.360 like it, but the fact is you have to do 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:13.840 it if you want to win. And if you don't 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:16.480 have the political willpower to stand up and say something 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:18.720 that may be unpopular with certain aspects of your party, 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:21.280 you're not a leader. And so I think that's, you know, 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:24.200 a big, big crossroads that we have. Are we willing 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:27.040 to stand up and say things that that are unpopular 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:29.400 or do we have to pander to every aspect of 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:32.280 of the party commercial break more with her meat. Dylan 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:38.760 on the other side, You've got a lot going on. 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:41.960 I mean, you've run a law practice, the Dylan Law Group. 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.560 I mean, I mean you're involved with, you know, many 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:48.200 other things. Why why do you want this? Well, it's 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:50.040 not a question of why do I want this? But 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:53.640 who else is going to do it? And you're right, 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:58.280 I'm very passionate about my day job heading a forty 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:00.560 person law firm with five off this is around the 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:03.600 country doing some of the most important conservative litigation in America. 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:06.640 Very passionate about the nonprofit that you hear me talk about. 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:09.760 I'll be talking about um a new case we followed 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:14.040 this week about transgender grooming issues, and that's also very 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:16.640 important work. I'm also the chairman of the Republican National 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:20.520 Lawyers Association, so I'm a Republican election lawyer in the country, 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:23.760 head of that organization right now on the board. And 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:27.200 you know, obviously I'm a media commentator, but I'm gonna 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:29.240 have to step aside from all of those rules except 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:32.120 for probably media commentator and chair of the R and C. 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:35.040 If I win this and that's because no other member 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:37.960 of the Republican National Committee stepped forward to challenge for 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:40.880 her fourth term. And you know, I'm sure she did 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:44.200 her best for three terms. She's a person who obviously 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:46.880 cares about Republicans and wants them to win elections. But 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:50.200 after three terms, we lost the House, the Senate, the 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:54.520 White House, and several governorships in net losses. We can't 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:56.400 ignore that fact, and so I think it's really time 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:58.680 for somebody else to step forward. And you know, R 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:01.040 and C is a unique organization and everyone there is 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:04.359 you know, sort of the top Republican people in their state, 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:08.119 the chairman, and you know, senior leaders in the party. 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:10.040 That's the National Committee men and woman. I failed that 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:13.960 role from California. So it's very genteel. You know, there's 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:18.520 no sharp elbows. Everyone gets along, and so it's rare 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:21.120 to have a contested leadership race. You know, the kind 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:22.720 of people trying to expect you to sit there and 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:25.919 wait your turn. And I'm sorry, but America can't afford 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:28.000 for us to wait our turn for somebody, you know, 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:30.679 to step forward and make the changes necessary at the 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:35.199 r NC. The country is suffering without a proper rebuke 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:38.320 to Joe Biden and strong leadership in our party. We're 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:42.040 going to suffer for four more years. I don't know 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:44.800 what our countries don't look like after four more years 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:46.760 of this disaster. The next two years is going to 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:49.400 be bad enough. And so that's why I step forward 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:51.680 to do it. Well, I'm glad you did. I mean, 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:55.680 you've fought for a lot of important causes you have won, 0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:58.280 and I think we need that kind of leadership at 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:00.640 the r n C. H it. Why do you think 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:04.120 we fell short in the midterms? Oh? There are many reasons, 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:05.480 and you know some of the reasons are the ones 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:08.959 that I mentioned. There were definitely candidate mismatches between who 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:10.840 could win the state. I mean, I think we should 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:13.960 do better vetting where you know, even the former president 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:18.359 has made a couple of endorsements that you know, I 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:19.919 think it's hard to get elected in the state as 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:22.320 a senator. I've never run for office before, and be 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:25.280 you didn't live in that state for many years. That 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:27.320 was a problem with two of our candidates, But they 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:30.359 weren't worse than the Democratic candidates, to be very clear, 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:32.560 we just didn't do as good a job at getting 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:35.800 them elected as Democrats did at getting their grossly inferior 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:40.320 candidates elected. Graphael Warnock is a terrible candidate on paper, 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:41.920 and yet we weren't able to beat him with a 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:46.480 very good candidate in many ways. Um. And so we 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:49.760 see blame on the Dobbs issue also from our party 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:54.160 leader Rod has blamed Dobbs. And I'm a pro life 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:57.760 litigator and activist. I represent numerous pro life activists in 0:18:57.800 --> 0:19:00.840 court right now, I'm sewing planned parenthood and multiple cases. 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:03.720 And uh. And so it seems to me like where 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:06.640 you had a heads up that jobs was coming, with 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:10.080 with what reasoning was coming, the party should have jumped 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:12.640 on that and done a great job using this important 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:17.040 federalism decision sending the issue back to the states, as 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:20.840 as as something that we could message to both sides 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:23.000 and message it well. We did not do that. We 0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:25.600 were afraid to talk about it. Candidates were advised not 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:28.520 to talk about it. Uh. And I think that was 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:31.800 a mistake. It should have been discussed and resolved in 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:35.719 each state and by each campaign. Um. And then I 0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:39.520 think we have some technical failures that that are probably 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:43.520 gonna warrior listeners. But you know, I think we are 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:46.840 being outperformed by the Democrats in terms of the use 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:51.760 of data. UM they invest financial resources in acquiring and 0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:57.359 harvesting and applying algorithms to data that allows them to 0:19:57.359 --> 0:20:00.240 target likely Democrat voters. And we also do that on 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:01.840 the Republican side, and by the way, we do a 0:20:01.920 --> 0:20:04.200 very good job of it compared to the past, but 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:08.359 we are not I think right now technically competing with 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:10.840 the Democrats, are keeping up with them, and I think 0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:13.360 that's something that we can change with financial resource investment. 0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:16.639 And if you're blowing the money you're raising on overhead 0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:23.199 overhead to UH ineffective political consultants inside the Beltway, some 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:25.720 of whom don't even want our America First candidates to win. 0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:28.560 That's very clear in their cocktail party chatter. They would 0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:32.280 be living in d C and and thriving in these circles. Then, 0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:37.480 instead of buying data, instead of paying social media influencers 0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:39.959 who are young and or from different ethnic backgrounds who 0:20:40.000 --> 0:20:44.520 can help us UH reach new audiences, we're losing. And 0:20:44.600 --> 0:20:47.280 so I think strong fiscal responsibility as a core tenet 0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:51.200 of Republican ideals, are not following it. At the Republican 0:20:51.240 --> 0:20:55.840 National Committee, the careful shepherding of donor dollars ought to 0:20:55.920 --> 0:20:58.560 be job one at the r and C, and it 0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:04.360 really isn't know, UM, I have a specific plan. It's 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:07.760 not glamorous, but it's it's nuts and bolts. We need 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:10.520 to bring in some people with the gray hair back 0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:12.600 into the r n C. I'm one of those people 0:21:12.600 --> 0:21:16.040 with gray hair, uh though I'm vain and uh you know, 0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:19.280 we have to bring some people with experience and state 0:21:19.280 --> 0:21:22.720 parties and people would experience outside the RNC to help 0:21:22.800 --> 0:21:26.879 us rebuild the party and really focus on winning, not 0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:32.080 on you know, glamour, not on podcasts, not on anything 0:21:32.119 --> 0:21:36.000 other than helping Republicans win elections and helping a Republican 0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:40.440 nominee whoever that is level playing field become the next 0:21:40.440 --> 0:21:43.000 president of the United States. At a time when it 0:21:43.040 --> 0:21:46.760 should be the easiest possible to defeat the left, we're 0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:50.639 struggling at doing that basic job, and so without a change, 0:21:50.680 --> 0:21:53.160 I'm very concerned that we will have no chance of winning. 0:21:54.520 --> 0:21:56.960 Win a change. It's going to be a challenge, but 0:21:57.520 --> 0:21:59.320 at least it's doable. I think a lot of people 0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:02.200 share your your frustration and would agree with what you 0:22:02.320 --> 0:22:05.040 just said. Real quick before we go. I know that 0:22:05.119 --> 0:22:09.919 the elections internal, but how can people help? Well, the 0:22:09.960 --> 0:22:12.440 members of the Republican National Committee are three in each 0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:16.120 of the fifty states and six territories. They in turn, 0:22:16.160 --> 0:22:19.040 are elected not directly by voters, but by the party 0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:21.639 activists in each states. So for example, in California, I 0:22:21.640 --> 0:22:24.159 am elected by fift hundred delegates of the state party. 0:22:24.840 --> 0:22:27.800 And so really the most effective advocacy is for those 0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:31.280 state party delegates or precinct committee men or limit or 0:22:31.320 --> 0:22:33.840 executive committee of the state party to contact the three 0:22:33.880 --> 0:22:36.399 members who they elect and tell them what their opinion 0:22:36.440 --> 0:22:38.960 is in no on certain terms. State parties are having 0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:41.280 special meetings all over the country. So for example, if 0:22:41.280 --> 0:22:43.760 you're one of those state party delegates in Florida, you 0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:46.640 have the opportunity in a week, one week from today, 0:22:46.760 --> 0:22:49.600 to travel to Tallahassee and vote on this issue. And 0:22:49.760 --> 0:22:54.800 that just happened in Arkansas and Louisiana, Alabama, Texas, Tennessee, 0:22:55.480 --> 0:23:00.320