1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: We're all very familiar at this point that Republicans fell 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: short in the mid term elections. We did not do 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: as well as we had hoped. We have not seen 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: any changes as a result of that, though, as a 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: result of those failures, as a result of coming up short, 6 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: we just saw Kevin McCarthy elected as Speaker of the House. 7 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: Mitch mccaddell has been re elected as Minority leader in 8 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: the Senate. However, there's still an opportunity to make changes 9 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: happen in leadership, and that's at the RNC. There is 10 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: a race that is underway right now to be the 11 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: chair of the RNC. Her Meat Dylan has challenged Rona McDaniel, 12 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: who has been there through the mid term election where 13 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: we lost. The two thousand twenty two midterm elections that 14 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: we just did, we had her performed, we didn't do 15 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: as well as we had hoped. So we're going to 16 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: talk to her and meet Dylan about why she is 17 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: challenging Rona McDaniel, what she hopes to accomplish, what changes 18 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: would she like to see made at the RNC, you know, 19 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: what our challenges moving forward as the Republican Party, and 20 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: and what does she want to do about mail and ballot. 21 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: So many questions for her. Meet Dylan, who is running 22 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 1: to be RNC chair. So we'll get her take on 23 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: all of those, really figure out where she's coming from, 24 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: why she's running, and what she would hope to accomplish 25 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: as the RNC chair. Also, you know, what does she 26 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: think about the upcoming presidential election? How would she shape that, 27 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: how would she guide that? So we'll talk to her 28 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: about all of it. If you're unfamiliar with her, Meet Dylan. 29 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: She's on Fox all the time. But even more importantly, 30 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,279 Speaker 1: she has fought for conservative causes as an attorney, fighting 31 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: for civil liberties. As a constitutional attorney, she helped launch 32 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: the nonprofit Center for American Liberty in two thousand eighteen. 33 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: She is also the founder of a law practice called 34 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: Dylan Law Group. I mean, we're talking about even during COVID, 35 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: standing up against states, filing lawsuits against the state of 36 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: California challenging its stay at home order, fighting on behalf 37 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: of businesses, fighting on behalf of restaurants, fighting on behalf 38 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: of people who had their constitutional rights violated. She also 39 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: filed lawsuits against the governor's in New Jersey and Virginia 40 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: at that time over the restrictions on religious service is 41 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: so this is someone who not only talks to talk, 42 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: but she walks the walk and she wins. I hope 43 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: you enjoyed this conversation with her, meat Dylan. I hope 44 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: you learn a little bit more about her and what 45 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: she would hope to accomplish if she is elected. Stay 46 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: tuned herd me before we get to the RNC race, 47 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: which is really important and I want to spend most 48 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: of the time talking about that. I wanted to get 49 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: your take on Joe Biden's mishandling of classified information after 50 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: he criticized Donald Trump for mishandling of classified information. Turns 51 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: out that he has been holding documents for years now 52 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: at multiple locations. Well, I think Joe Biden's got a 53 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: real problem because President Trump has multiple defenses to claims 54 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: that he's mishandled the documents. First of all, he was 55 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: the commander in chief and was legitimately able to and 56 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: contend that he declassified the documents that are being disputed 57 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: at Mara. Lago said, even if they weren't declassified, if 58 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:18,399 Speaker 1: you accept the alternate interpretation of that situation, he had 59 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: the right under the presidential Records Act to hold on 60 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: to these documents for a period of time to sort 61 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: through them and and then analyze what should be turned 62 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: over to the National Archives. Joe Biden, by contrast, got 63 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: possession of these documents as the Vice president of the 64 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: United States. He has since that time been responsible for 65 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: their move not once, not twice, but at least three times. 66 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: And there may be other document caches based on the 67 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: pattern that we're seeing. So he moved them out of 68 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: the White House or his Vice presidential offices, moved them 69 00:03:55,760 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: into one building, moved them into another building, and he's 70 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: had various roles and lived in at least one home 71 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: and spends every other weekend, it seems, in some luxurious 72 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: vacation rental. And so there are probably multiple locations that 73 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: if the Department of Justice and National Archives are serious 74 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: about finding these documents, they should be searching right now. 75 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: But I see no evidence of that. And ultimately, the 76 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: other major distinction with the former vice president is the 77 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 1: number of people around him who are appeared to be 78 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: compromised by their relationships with foreign governments. This specifically includes 79 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden, James Biden to some degree, I would say 80 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: even the Vice president, former vice president current president himself. 81 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: Both China, Ukraine and possibly other countries have had their 82 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: hands out for relationships with the name Biden and provided 83 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: very lucrative remuneration in exchange for that. On one of 84 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: the documents mentioned in the first trench of Documents and 85 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: the presses it relates to the Ukraine. So you have 86 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: to wonder why are these specific documents the ones that 87 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 1: are in the former vice president's possession? Who had access 88 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: to them? Some news reports suggests that in the case 89 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: of the pen office, a Chinese operative had keys and 90 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: access to this workspace. And and what happened in response 91 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: to review of these documents? Who reviewed them? So I 92 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: think it's good that the form that the Attorney General 93 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: is now appointed a special prosecutor here. But for months, 94 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: this whole fact pattern was the subject of a cover up. Specifically, 95 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: the possession of these documents came to light at least 96 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: in early November, but it was concealed from the American 97 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: public until a a house was seated that was likely 98 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: to begin issuing subpoena. You know, again, yet again you 99 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: have the intelligence apper at us making moves to affect 100 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: the outcome of an election. Uh, this is this is 101 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: the second case involving the Biden's um. You might argue 102 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: that the whole Ashley Biden raid against Project Veritas would 103 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: be another example. So this is the exact kind of 104 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: weaponization of our intelligence services that that I hope the 105 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: House is serious about investigating as they promised to do 106 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: in the Congress. And in the timing is weird too, 107 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: of you know, this just now coming to light. But 108 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: to your point, maybe it's because House. You know, Republicans 109 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: have taken over the House and investigations are going to 110 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: be underway. Um. You know, we did not get changes 111 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: to congressional leadership. However, we still have an opportunity to 112 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: make changes that the R and C, which one would 113 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: think would be important given you know, a poor performance 114 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: in the midterm elections. Uh. You know, for those unfamiliar, 115 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: how do these RNC elections work for the position of chair. Well, 116 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: there are hundred sixty voters in total, and it's a 117 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: majority vote, but a secret ballot, and we have the 118 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: deadline was earlier today to complete nomination. So to be nominated, 119 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: you have to have two members of the three members 120 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: from each of three separate states nominate per office. And 121 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: so I've qualified for the chair position, so as RANA, 122 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: we also have contested co chair and treasurer races, and 123 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: all of that's going to be voted on in Danta Point, 124 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: California in our winter. Are at beating in two weeks, 125 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: two weeks from today, we may have a new chair 126 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: of the r n C UM And so it's all 127 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: a lot of horse trading and lobbying. This is a 128 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: race against an entrenched incumbent who is you know, utilizing 129 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: all the assets of the r n C in this race, 130 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: press office, employees of the RNC, consultants of the r 131 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: n C, you know, one prominent Fox News contributors paid 132 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: by the r n C, and you know was making 133 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: statements on the FLA VRATA earlier in this campaign. So 134 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: you know that's what I'm up against. It I may 135 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: sort of David versus Golife campaign. I have had the 136 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: support of many members of the r n C, agree 137 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: with growing number of members of the r n C. 138 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: UH certainly the vast majority of the grassroots Republican voters 139 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: in the country and Republican Party activists are supporting change 140 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: at the RNC and specifically supporting me. A number of 141 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: states have held votes on the leadership of the r 142 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: and C, and each of the states that has held 143 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: votes on it has overwhelmingly voted for me or for change, 144 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 1: or both, and increasingly major donors in the conservative world 145 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: have come out to support me. And this is in 146 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: response to one of the claims of the incumbents supporters 147 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: is that she's a very good at fundraising if you 148 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 1: look at those facts. Actually, um, I think Donald Trump's 149 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: name has been very to have been fundraising for the 150 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: Republican National Committee. And when you have the White House, 151 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: it's pretty easy to raise money. When you don't have 152 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: the White House, it's not that easy to raise money, 153 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: and in fact, our fundraising numbers show that. And when 154 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: you are losing elections, it's hard to raise money. And 155 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 1: when you are adopting and promoting the same old, stale 156 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: leadership and consultant driven policymaking that we have at the 157 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: r n C, I think the RNC is going to 158 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: find it very difficult to raise funds unless we have 159 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: a decisive change in leadership at the top. And so 160 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: I'm gratified this week to have had at the beginning 161 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: of the week more than two dozen major Republican mega 162 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: donors and bundlers in a million dollar type range stated 163 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: that they would not support the party until there was change. 164 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 1: Bernie Marcus, the co founder of Home Depot billionaire donor, 165 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: endorsed us on Wednesday, and today we had two major 166 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: donors as well. One is Dick you Line, another Megadona 167 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: billionaire who has long supported men, many, many many Republican 168 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: candidates and causes, endorsed me today as well as Murph Burke, 169 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: who is a prominent Wisconsin donor and philanthropist who is 170 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: also interestingly on our Wisconsin RNC Convention committee, which itself 171 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: has to raise millions of dollars. So you have people 172 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: at every level in the Republican donor ecosystem demanding change. 173 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: I don't know how the party can continue to ignore that. 174 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: I think we actually have a fiduciary duty to look 175 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: at who's the more likely in this scenario to be 176 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: able to raise the funds that the party needs to 177 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: use efficiently to distribute to states and to campaigns. Uh 178 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: with with with support of field staff and things like that, 179 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: and data and other assets to elect Republicans. It's that basic, 180 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: and so you know, we hope they get able. We 181 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: were able to convince the rest of the people to 182 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: support Yeah, and to your point in Tiger Group recently 183 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: did a poll finding the eighty six percent of Republicans 184 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 1: want you to be chair over Rona McDaniel to your 185 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: point of the grassroots winning change and wanting you to 186 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: be that change. And you mentioned raising money, which obviously 187 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: raising money is important in elections, but it's also what 188 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 1: do you do with that money and are you effective 189 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: in spending that money? And what we've seen is the 190 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: challenge of mail in ballots that has had a big 191 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: impact on the past two election cycles. How do you 192 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: plan on tackling that challenge with mail and balloting? Yeah, 193 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: great question. So, first of all, mail and balloting has 194 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: been a thing in many states for some time. And 195 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 1: you know, like some of the more rural states in 196 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: the country, Utahn and Oregon, they've had all mail in 197 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: balloting for for a long while. In California we've had 198 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: what we call no excuse abstintee balloting for for decades. 199 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: And during COVID, Democrats pretty much made this the norm 200 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 1: and the majority of states and that laws has stayed 201 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: in place despite the fact that COVID is effectively over 202 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: so there are two ways to deal with it. You 203 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: can sit on your behind, continue to call elections election 204 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: day operations and pretend like nothing has changed, which is 205 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: unfortunately the approach we've been adopting. Or you can be 206 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: smart about it and compete with the Democrats, which is 207 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: what a handful of states have been doing effectively California, Florida, 208 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: some others, and adapt and we have to adapt or die. 209 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: It's it's that diarist situation. And so until we can 210 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: change the election laws to the way we like them, 211 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: which is voter I D and no same day registration 212 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 1: and really tight requirements around absentee ballots, combined with very 213 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: clean voter rolls, we must defeat and outperform the Democrats 214 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: in hustling our ballots into the ballot box. And so 215 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: for many years we've had this emotional type of approach 216 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: to appeal to voters to go and you know, stand 217 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: in line and vote in person symbolically on election day, 218 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: and the Democrats don't have that problem. So I've heard 219 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,599 Speaker 1: a lot of excuses out of the current leadership for 220 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: the party saying, well, you know, Donald Trump picked bad candidates, 221 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: and there was candidate selection issues, and there was ticket 222 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,719 Speaker 1: splitting and blah blah blah. But let's keep in mind 223 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: who the Democrats have been able to elect with their machine. 224 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: Joe Biden the biggest liar in American politics. And that's 225 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: you know, even next to George Santos, Joe Biden is 226 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: still by far the biggest liar. You look at John Fetterman, 227 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 1: who couldn't even speak for much of his campaign because 228 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: of his stroke. You have Katie Hobbs, who wouldn't debate 229 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: in Arizona and became the governor over a much more 230 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 1: articulate and I think appealing candidate, and so all of 231 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: that adds up to it doesn't matter who the Democrats 232 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: put up, because they have perfected the art of getting 233 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 1: their voters ballots into the ballot boxes, not getting their 234 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: voters to the polls. It's a very important distinction. Most 235 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: of those Democrat voters never see the inside of a 236 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: polling place anymore. In Arizona on election day where I 237 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 1: was on the ground, the voters on election day were 238 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: Republican voters. And so we lose every time if we 239 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: let the Democrats set the agenda with us like that, 240 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: and what it requires for us to outperform Democrats is 241 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: a couple of things. First of all, a national strategic 242 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: plan from the R and C. And then training and 243 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: financial resources because when you go from election day operations 244 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: to election month operations, it's going to cost more money. 245 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: You may also have to train and recruit more volunteers 246 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: and put them in and shifts. Uh. It's it's an 247 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: organizational challenge that the party has not been up to, 248 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: but it's not that difficult. If it were that difficult, 249 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: Democrats couldn't luster it, and they have and so I 250 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: think we can do it, but we have to have 251 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: a will to do it. I haven't heard the current 252 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: share talk about it at all, and I think that's 253 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: because she's intimidated by the fact that many Republican Party 254 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: activists don't like what I just said. And I don't 255 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: like it, but the fact is you have to do 256 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: it if you want to win. And if you don't 257 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: have the political willpower to stand up and say something 258 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: that may be unpopular with certain aspects of your party, 259 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: you're not a leader. And so I think that's, you know, 260 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: a big, big crossroads that we have. Are we willing 261 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: to stand up and say things that that are unpopular 262 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: or do we have to pander to every aspect of 263 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: of the party commercial break more with her meat. Dylan 264 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: on the other side, You've got a lot going on. 265 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you've run a law practice, the Dylan Law Group. 266 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean you're involved with, you know, many 267 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: other things. Why why do you want this? Well, it's 268 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: not a question of why do I want this? But 269 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: who else is going to do it? And you're right, 270 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: I'm very passionate about my day job heading a forty 271 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: person law firm with five off this is around the 272 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: country doing some of the most important conservative litigation in America. 273 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: Very passionate about the nonprofit that you hear me talk about. 274 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: I'll be talking about um a new case we followed 275 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: this week about transgender grooming issues, and that's also very 276 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: important work. I'm also the chairman of the Republican National 277 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: Lawyers Association, so I'm a Republican election lawyer in the country, 278 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: head of that organization right now on the board. And 279 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: you know, obviously I'm a media commentator, but I'm gonna 280 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: have to step aside from all of those rules except 281 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: for probably media commentator and chair of the R and C. 282 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: If I win this and that's because no other member 283 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: of the Republican National Committee stepped forward to challenge for 284 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: her fourth term. And you know, I'm sure she did 285 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: her best for three terms. She's a person who obviously 286 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: cares about Republicans and wants them to win elections. But 287 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: after three terms, we lost the House, the Senate, the 288 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: White House, and several governorships in net losses. We can't 289 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: ignore that fact, and so I think it's really time 290 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: for somebody else to step forward. And you know, R 291 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: and C is a unique organization and everyone there is 292 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: you know, sort of the top Republican people in their state, 293 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: the chairman, and you know, senior leaders in the party. 294 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: That's the National Committee men and woman. I failed that 295 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: role from California. So it's very genteel. You know, there's 296 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: no sharp elbows. Everyone gets along, and so it's rare 297 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 1: to have a contested leadership race. You know, the kind 298 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: of people trying to expect you to sit there and 299 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 1: wait your turn. And I'm sorry, but America can't afford 300 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: for us to wait our turn for somebody, you know, 301 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 1: to step forward and make the changes necessary at the 302 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 1: r NC. The country is suffering without a proper rebuke 303 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: to Joe Biden and strong leadership in our party. We're 304 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: going to suffer for four more years. I don't know 305 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: what our countries don't look like after four more years 306 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: of this disaster. The next two years is going to 307 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 1: be bad enough. And so that's why I step forward 308 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: to do it. Well, I'm glad you did. I mean, 309 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: you've fought for a lot of important causes you have won, 310 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: and I think we need that kind of leadership at 311 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 1: the r n C. H it. Why do you think 312 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: we fell short in the midterms? Oh? There are many reasons, 313 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: and you know some of the reasons are the ones 314 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,959 Speaker 1: that I mentioned. There were definitely candidate mismatches between who 315 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: could win the state. I mean, I think we should 316 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: do better vetting where you know, even the former president 317 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: has made a couple of endorsements that you know, I 318 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: think it's hard to get elected in the state as 319 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: a senator. I've never run for office before, and be 320 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: you didn't live in that state for many years. That 321 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: was a problem with two of our candidates, But they 322 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: weren't worse than the Democratic candidates, to be very clear, 323 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: we just didn't do as good a job at getting 324 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: them elected as Democrats did at getting their grossly inferior 325 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: candidates elected. Graphael Warnock is a terrible candidate on paper, 326 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: and yet we weren't able to beat him with a 327 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: very good candidate in many ways. Um. And so we 328 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: see blame on the Dobbs issue also from our party 329 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: leader Rod has blamed Dobbs. And I'm a pro life 330 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: litigator and activist. I represent numerous pro life activists in 331 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: court right now, I'm sewing planned parenthood and multiple cases. 332 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: And uh. And so it seems to me like where 333 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 1: you had a heads up that jobs was coming, with 334 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: with what reasoning was coming, the party should have jumped 335 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 1: on that and done a great job using this important 336 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: federalism decision sending the issue back to the states, as 337 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: as as something that we could message to both sides 338 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: and message it well. We did not do that. We 339 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: were afraid to talk about it. Candidates were advised not 340 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: to talk about it. Uh. And I think that was 341 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: a mistake. It should have been discussed and resolved in 342 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,719 Speaker 1: each state and by each campaign. Um. And then I 343 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: think we have some technical failures that that are probably 344 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: gonna warrior listeners. But you know, I think we are 345 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: being outperformed by the Democrats in terms of the use 346 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: of data. UM they invest financial resources in acquiring and 347 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: harvesting and applying algorithms to data that allows them to 348 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: target likely Democrat voters. And we also do that on 349 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: the Republican side, and by the way, we do a 350 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: very good job of it compared to the past, but 351 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 1: we are not I think right now technically competing with 352 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: the Democrats, are keeping up with them, and I think 353 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 1: that's something that we can change with financial resource investment. 354 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: And if you're blowing the money you're raising on overhead 355 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 1: overhead to UH ineffective political consultants inside the Beltway, some 356 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: of whom don't even want our America First candidates to win. 357 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: That's very clear in their cocktail party chatter. They would 358 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: be living in d C and and thriving in these circles. Then, 359 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: instead of buying data, instead of paying social media influencers 360 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,959 Speaker 1: who are young and or from different ethnic backgrounds who 361 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: can help us UH reach new audiences, we're losing. And 362 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: so I think strong fiscal responsibility as a core tenet 363 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: of Republican ideals, are not following it. At the Republican 364 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: National Committee, the careful shepherding of donor dollars ought to 365 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: be job one at the r and C, and it 366 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 1: really isn't know, UM, I have a specific plan. It's 367 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: not glamorous, but it's it's nuts and bolts. We need 368 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: to bring in some people with the gray hair back 369 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: into the r n C. I'm one of those people 370 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: with gray hair, uh though I'm vain and uh you know, 371 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: we have to bring some people with experience and state 372 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: parties and people would experience outside the RNC to help 373 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: us rebuild the party and really focus on winning, not 374 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: on you know, glamour, not on podcasts, not on anything 375 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: other than helping Republicans win elections and helping a Republican 376 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: nominee whoever that is level playing field become the next 377 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: president of the United States. At a time when it 378 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: should be the easiest possible to defeat the left, we're 379 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: struggling at doing that basic job, and so without a change, 380 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: I'm very concerned that we will have no chance of winning. 381 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: Win a change. It's going to be a challenge, but 382 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: at least it's doable. I think a lot of people 383 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: share your your frustration and would agree with what you 384 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: just said. Real quick before we go. I know that 385 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 1: the elections internal, but how can people help? Well, the 386 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: members of the Republican National Committee are three in each 387 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 1: of the fifty states and six territories. They in turn, 388 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: are elected not directly by voters, but by the party 389 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: activists in each states. So for example, in California, I 390 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: am elected by fift hundred delegates of the state party. 391 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: And so really the most effective advocacy is for those 392 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: state party delegates or precinct committee men or limit or 393 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: executive committee of the state party to contact the three 394 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: members who they elect and tell them what their opinion 395 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: is in no on certain terms. State parties are having 396 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: special meetings all over the country. So for example, if 397 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: you're one of those state party delegates in Florida, you 398 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 1: have the opportunity in a week, one week from today, 399 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: to travel to Tallahassee and vote on this issue. And 400 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: that just happened in Arkansas and Louisiana, Alabama, Texas, Tennessee, 401 00:22:55,480 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: and and uh I think Arizona. Throughout the country, it's happening. 402 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: There's a vote coming up in Washington State shortly on 403 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: this issue. And so those are the most effective. But 404 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: if you are a voter in the state, and you're 405 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: an active Republican, I would say you could reach out 406 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: politely to the three members of your state or your territory, 407 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 1: let them know you live in their state, because they're 408 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: going to ignore it if you don't live in their 409 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: state and share your preference and why politely and persuasively. 410 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: That is having an impact on many of the members 411 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: of the R and C. Other members of the R 412 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: and C don't want to hear from voters directly, which 413 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: itself is a problem, I think, but in any event, 414 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: it's never persuasive to be anything other than polite. And 415 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 1: uh so I regret that some people feel so passionately 416 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: about this that they haven't been and I'm getting blamed 417 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 1: for that. So so don't do that, please, And you know, finally, 418 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: get engaged and get involved. If your Republican representatives at 419 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 1: the Republican National Committee at your state party aren't doing 420 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: what's right for you, but instead of doing what's right 421 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: for them, they got a plump committee assignment, they got 422 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: their photograph taken with some famous person, they got a 423 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: nice seat at the table. Goal then they're portraying their 424 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,719 Speaker 1: promise to you. And so get involved and get yourself 425 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: elected to one of those positions. That's what I can 426 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: ask for Republican activists. But on Twitter and everyone that 427 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: followed me, of the members that message directly and then 428 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: the ones that had opened Twitter where you could message them, 429 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: I said the US. I was very polite about it, 430 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: but I expressed the desire for change with you, hurt, 431 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: Meet Dylan. I'm rooting for you. I know you'd be 432 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: a phenomenal chair and you would make the changes that 433 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: we need, so I truly hope you get it. I 434 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: appreciate you taking the time as always and uh always 435 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: nice to catch up with you. Thank you so much, Lisa, 436 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 1: take care. It's her, Meet Dylan truly hope she ends 437 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: up being the RNC chair. That would be a really 438 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: important place to make change US as a party heading 439 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: into what is a monumental and consequential presidential election for 440 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: I want to thank you guys for listening. I want 441 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: to thank John Cassio for putting the podcast together as 442 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 1: always Monday and Thursday, but you can listen throughout the week. 443 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: Leave us a review at a rating on Apple Podcast 444 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: love reading those. Appreciate you guys listening. Until next time.