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Speaker 1: Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen to the latest edition of

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Speaker 1: No Fouls Given, presented by Prize Picks. Of course, I'm

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Speaker 1: your co host Big Wise aka was Lambray, and I'm

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Speaker 1: joined as always by my guy Danny Green, mother guy

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Speaker 1: Paul Pierre is still snacking. We gotta really yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: just chopping. That's the that's the vibe of the show.

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Speaker 1: Uh Man, got a really jam packed show for you

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Speaker 1: guys today, So let's just get right into it. Man,

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Speaker 1: gotta start this one with CP three because this happened

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Speaker 1: during our off day of the podcast, and so we

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Speaker 1: didn't get to talk about it.

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Speaker 2: But Chris Paul was sent home by the Clippers.

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Speaker 1: Sham's reported that Paul had been vocal about holding the

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Speaker 1: front office, coaches and players accountable, which the Clippers found

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Speaker 1: to be quote unquote disruptive, and added that Paul has

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Speaker 1: not been on speaking terms with the head coach in weeks.

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Speaker 2: He hasn't talked to his coach in weeks.

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Speaker 1: Tyler said, he's been a friend of mine over the years,

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Speaker 1: and you don't want to see a great go out

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Speaker 1: like this. Kawin James Hardy both claimed to be shocked, shocked,

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Speaker 1: by the decisions. Give me a break. Come on, Come on,

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Speaker 1: Like when when when Yannis when Dame got a stretch

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Speaker 1: provision this summer so they could do the miles turning thing.

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Speaker 2: Yannes' is like, oh, I can't believe it.

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Speaker 1: As if they would do that type of move without

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Speaker 1: talking to him, right, as if management would do this

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Speaker 1: without talking to James and Harden.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: I mean you can you can take their word for it.

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Speaker 4: I won't, Manna, I'm with you. I don't know. That's

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Speaker 4: a very slim chance that they didn't were shocked by it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and didn't know.

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Speaker 4: They probably on the side pages against coach lou And

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Speaker 4: you gotta say what you gotta say for the media.

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Speaker 4: You gotta protect you know, the atmosphere, protect home, protect

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Speaker 4: the organization. But yeah, I don't, I don't. I highly

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Speaker 4: believe nobody knew this was coming.

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Speaker 1: So just to get into some of the specifics that's

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Speaker 1: been reported by Shams and Sam Maymi, Joe Varden and

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Speaker 1: the athletic UH, Chris Paul was sort of just being

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Speaker 1: vocal about things that are going wrong.

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Speaker 2: Yes, being who is uh.

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Speaker 1: They said that he was talking about things just basically

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Speaker 1: saying there was there wasn't a culture of accountability within

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Speaker 1: the organization, both in film room practices or shoot arounds,

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Speaker 1: walk throughs, that kind of thing, and that just over

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Speaker 1: time people were just like, I guess you know it's

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Speaker 1: bad enough. We're five and sixteen, Like, we know we're

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Speaker 1: playing bad. You feel me like the idea that we

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Speaker 1: need this guy coming in here and lecturing us. And again,

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Speaker 1: you know, part of the reporting in the sense that

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Speaker 1: the guys that went out and talked to people around

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Speaker 1: the situation is that the Clippers are the oldest team

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Speaker 1: in the NBA. So the idea that you're just yelling

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Speaker 1: at a bunch of older players, accomplished players. Sure, but

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Speaker 1: you're not playing and when you do, you're the worst

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Speaker 1: you've ever been in your life. So I think that

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Speaker 1: matters in terms of why people are pissed off.

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Speaker 3: Yes, And because I was in this exact same situation

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Speaker 3: with the clip who was the oldest on the team.

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Speaker 3: I was in my last year at Chris Paul. I

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Speaker 3: was playing with Chris Paul, Blake and DeAndre So you know,

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Speaker 3: I come into the locker room, as you know, respective

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Speaker 3: veteran has won a championship, who's done everything in the league.

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Speaker 3: And when I got there and I knew it was

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Speaker 3: my last year, I was like, you know, my time

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Speaker 3: as being a leader and vocal about that stuff is up.

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Speaker 5: It's up to y'all. Y'all gotta figure this out.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna want a presence and if y'all need me

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Speaker 3: to say something, I will, But I'm about to sit

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Speaker 3: back on this surfboard and ride. This was this wave

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Speaker 3: always to the beach out of here. It really so

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Speaker 3: when it was time for me and I didn't really

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Speaker 3: say much, nor did I practice much. You know, I

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Speaker 3: didn't get the reps. I practiced. I got there early.

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Speaker 3: So my my role was this. I get there early

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Speaker 3: with the young boys. All Right, we're gonna go through this.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna lift, we're gonna get shots up. Then we'll practiced.

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Speaker 3: Stuff started. I was on the sideline just just watching.

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Speaker 3: If the doc needed me to say something, I said something.

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Speaker 3: If it was something that was like a turnoil between

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Speaker 3: two people, okay, I'll step into that. But as far

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Speaker 3: as like me trying to be like, man, we ain't

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Speaker 3: this and we ain't no, I wasn't on that. You

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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying I wanted a peaceful last year.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate that perspective.

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Speaker 4: So you think cp I was doing too much or

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Speaker 4: he care too much Overstepp do you think you think?

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Speaker 3: You think sometimes you could overstep because he's respected, he

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Speaker 3: feel like he got a voice.

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Speaker 5: But at the same time, you ain't the same player either.

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Speaker 4: So that's my question. Why does why does that matter?

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Speaker 5: It don't matter. I don't even think that matter.

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Speaker 4: I know, but I think you were saying that, I

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Speaker 4: think it matters to the guys.

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Speaker 1: That's the sense that that I got from talking to

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Speaker 1: some people that are close to the Clippers situation, closer

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Speaker 1: than me. Obviously I'm not there every day. I think

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Speaker 1: it does matter to the guys. When it's like the

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Speaker 1: dude who's lecture you is playing horrible.

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Speaker 4: It's almost like he's not playing much though, But.

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Speaker 1: When he's fourteen minutes is per game is not nothing.

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Speaker 4: It's not that it's not a lot to do much.

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Speaker 1: Sure, but like the percentages, and I think I think

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Speaker 1: they were net minus seventeen.

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Speaker 4: Toole team is minus.

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Speaker 1: Like I hear you, I tend to agree with you

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Speaker 1: with you and Paul in the sense that it's Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Chris Paul has amazing insights about what it takes to win.

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Speaker 1: He's won every single way that he's gone in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's been a positive influence everywhere.

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Speaker 2: That he's gone.

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Speaker 1: But I can see, like, guys, again, these are older players.

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Speaker 1: It's like Chris Paul, like, I know how to play basketball.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 1: I think with a younger group it would have been

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Speaker 4: Different, for sure. It's not like the Spurs, like they're

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Speaker 4: trying to right right, right, get it?

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Speaker 1: Or when you did the stretching Okac with Shaye when

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Speaker 1: they first that Yeah, that men.

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Speaker 4: Before guys averaging twenty Is it enough to send him home? Though?

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think they. I didn't think this ended

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Speaker 3: the right way. And like again I don't I'm not

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Speaker 3: in the locker room, and I'm not seeing if there's

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Speaker 3: like what's being said.

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Speaker 5: But like, man, I get where Chris is coming from.

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Speaker 3: And you know, when you're older them, and then when

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Speaker 3: you're on top of that, you lose it. Frustrations is

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Speaker 3: built in that locker room, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Everybody fresh, so they don't want to hear that ship.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to like if I'm like, man, shut up,

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Speaker 3: like you know what I'm saying. Probably Cash got tired

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Speaker 3: of that, Like, man, you it probably been like if

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Speaker 3: it was me, Like if I was actually in.

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Speaker 5: That locker room and I'm like, Harden, I'm like, man,

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Speaker 5: shut up. Man, I don't want to hear that.

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Speaker 3: Ship Man, I'm frustrated because I ain't playing well. We

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Speaker 3: ain't playing well. Stuff back, Man, you're about to retire anyway.

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Speaker 3: I can see that. But that's me, Like I would

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Speaker 3: have probably said something that being known who I am,

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Speaker 3: and maybe some castles in there didn't want to hear that,

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I think Christian have just

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Speaker 3: went out like, Man, I'm at home. My family's rooted,

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Speaker 3: uh my last year, and I'm gonna take a step back,

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Speaker 3: dam and Joey, I'm gonna go on the road, go

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Speaker 3: to all my favorite restaurants and all my That's what

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Speaker 3: I did. I was one of all my favorite Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we're going out tonight. I know I ain't playing. Yeah

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Speaker 3: I did. I went all my favorite spots. I'll come

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Speaker 3: to practice, I'll work off the young guys. Sit down

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Speaker 3: where I made my last year enjoyable. When I didn't play.

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Speaker 3: I mean, and you know it's different for us all,

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Speaker 3: and you know, but I.

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Speaker 4: Think he was robbed of that bro like we didn't.

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Speaker 4: He didn't even know when his last game was gonna be,

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Speaker 1: They so, they so the flight night, the flight was

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Speaker 1: the flight from Miami to Atlanta got delayed, Okay, so

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Speaker 1: they ended up meeting at around eleven PM, him and

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Speaker 1: Lawrence Frank. The meeting lasted till two am, and then

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Speaker 1: Chris Paul on his Instagram announced it at forty to

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Speaker 1: forty am.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's the only conversation.

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Speaker 2: I think the conversation, if I could guess, was.

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Speaker 5: Like, I mean, conversation conversation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the conversation is I'm who I am.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna stop being who I am.

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Speaker 4: So they said you can either stay with us or

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Speaker 4: go home. You think that that's an option or that

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Speaker 4: the said or.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure they told Chris Paul like you need

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Speaker 1: to stop, and he's like, no that y y'all can't

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Speaker 1: tell me when they're talking when.

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Speaker 5: Not to talk.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm gonna assume happened.

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Speaker 4: I would like to think any smart person with some

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Speaker 4: type of logic, if somebody tell you the cooler funk

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Speaker 4: out sending you home, I'm not gonna get embarrassed or

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Speaker 4: embarrass myself in front of my family and the world

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Speaker 4: because I have an ego of being at the ind

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Speaker 4: benure that I can't shut up for a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Again, this is my guess, but I'll give you another perspective,

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Speaker 3: Like you have to look at like, Okay, this is

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Speaker 3: Chris Paul, that's Tody Lou. Yeah I know who he

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Speaker 3: was as a player. Yeah, like I was better than you.

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Speaker 3: To win to all as an all timer, looking like

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Speaker 4: That's what's the crazy, Like Lawrence like he probably looking

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Speaker 4: it's another crazier thing, like you were married to this

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Speaker 1: Like So I think that's part of I think the

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Speaker 4: That not insanity? Like doing the same thing over and

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Speaker 1: So in the reporting, it said that management felt like

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Speaker 2: They said that's part of what he was doing.

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Speaker 4: And I think there was reports earlier today that they're

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Speaker 1: Got extended, which you know, I think Lawrence is good

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Speaker 3: I think you know what it is. They're and this

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Speaker 5: Man, we don't want to hear all that before that.

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Speaker 4: What you just got here before November.

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Speaker 3: Whatever you had, what you had before that, you were

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Speaker 5: Paul?

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Speaker 1: In twenty thirteen, But that was twenty thirteen year, last

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Speaker 1: And Paul Pierce, you you grand new to the situation,

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Speaker 5: I say that probably is a lack of leadership in

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Speaker 4: Room because nobody else is saying nothing. Again, he's known

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Speaker 4: But you knew that before you brought him.

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Speaker 1: Can you can you elaborate on what the reputation? Well,

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Speaker 1: you actually played with him, So what is the CP

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Speaker 3: I guess people saying that like he come across other

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Speaker 4: But you see that ass.

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Speaker 3: Jordan's saying something Kobe didn't saying. Some people wasn't feeling

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Speaker 1: So you saying in your time with CP, you didn't

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Speaker 3: Man, I didn't see got you. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: If if it was something he did or said went

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Speaker 1: Head, got you, it was a regular guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, Man, I'm not And then again, like

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Speaker 3: I said in my last days, I'm not sticking around

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Speaker 3: the locker room I'm going on to my kids. I'm

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Speaker 3: not doing no community service. I stopped all the NBA meetings.

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Speaker 3: I did all the like seven like NBA meeting today

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Speaker 3: after practice, I'm good signing people get out. I'm going,

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Speaker 3: y'all got an appearance at the team No, I'm good.

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Speaker 3: I did this ship for like eighteen years or like

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Speaker 3: It was like some things that probably was said, but like,

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Speaker 3: come on, after that, come with the frustrations of playing

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Speaker 3: and being around each other a whole year on the bus,

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Speaker 3: the locker room, the plane, the hotel. You know, you

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Speaker 3: get tired of some people, just like some people get

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Speaker 3: tired of their girlfriend or wife and everything that you

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Speaker 3: make up and you know, keep going.

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Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say they did him dirty.

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 4: I'm thinking that more is gonna come out, because what's

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Speaker 4: come out to me is that it's just not enough

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Speaker 4: VET Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 1: One of the greatest players in his figures.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you would think that they would have had a

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Speaker 4: sure at some point.

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Speaker 5: Damn when they retire his jersey.

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Speaker 4: They were supposed like he would have been one of

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Speaker 2: It would be a little while before that problem.

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Speaker 4: How do you do that?

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Speaker 5: That's that's that's just uh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's obviously some.

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Speaker 4: Bad because he's probably resenting the organization right now.

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Speaker 1: Like another thing that thought was interesting about the Tylu

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Speaker 2: Who will tell a player himself.

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Speaker 1: That's his reputation, that he's not scared, definitely want to

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Speaker 1: talk to whoever the name is, like that he would

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Speaker 1: that he would He's not scared to say something.

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Speaker 2: So I'm just like, man, like, if.

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Speaker 1: Tyler's there, he's a whole guy's accountable kind of guy.

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Speaker 1: But like, I'm kind of with you, Danny, I think

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Speaker 4: Just a dirty bro they robbed him of. They just

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Speaker 4: announced he's retiring like two weeks ago. He doesn't know

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Speaker 4: what he's supposed to retire and a Clipper Jersey. They

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Speaker 4: can't trade them the camp. They just sent them home,

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Speaker 4: you know, Like it's kind of foul bro in the

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Speaker 4: middle of the night, like said, he's on the East coast.

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Speaker 4: Does he flies back with the team? Does he take

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Speaker 4: his own flight and the pay for the flight get

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Speaker 4: him first class fight?

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Speaker 5: I just hope we.

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Speaker 1: Put him on Delta one.

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Speaker 5: I see at the end of the day he can

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Speaker 6: At this point, it's like this point with another teams

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Speaker 6: and they retired.

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Speaker 4: But they can't even they have to trade. They can't

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Speaker 4: even wave them because they have to keep the fourteenth.

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Speaker 4: They have to keep the roster spot.

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Speaker 1: Like yeah, trade them eligible to be traded.

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Speaker 4: Yet, who's gonna somebody's gonna take him in the Like

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Speaker 4: now he's got to go away from home, Like you

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Speaker 4: can't go to the Lakers, Like.

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Speaker 5: The Lakers like mid January or something.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna trade for because he has to be traded

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Speaker 4: for him, right, he can't belave.

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Speaker 5: They have a roster spot.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he has to be They can't let him go

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Speaker 4: from the Clippers. They have to keep them, right, because

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Speaker 4: they have to keep that roster spot because the Cat, well, I.

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Speaker 3: Think the Lakers have a roster spot, right, they have

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Speaker 4: I don't know, but they would have to think they

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Speaker 4: have one rosterpot.

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Speaker 3: But they can't sign them until like mid January. I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but again, so the Clippers would then have to

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Speaker 5: And that would be probably they don't.

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Speaker 1: They're probably up waving them like that.

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Speaker 4: Would brother still against the Cat. They have to keep

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Speaker 3: But they can't trade or or sign Chris until like

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Speaker 1: But what.

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Speaker 5: If they don't allow that and they just keep him

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Speaker 4: They I think they are locked into it because of

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Speaker 4: the cap situation. They can't get another player to spot.

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Speaker 3: They an show off the practice then, but like you notice,

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Speaker 1: Though the wording is we sent him home, but so

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Speaker 1: contractually he.

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Speaker 5: He to work. Yeah, I'm going to work, show up

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Speaker 5: to the park.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna do that. I think Chris

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Speaker 1: Paul has a lot of dignity.

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Speaker 4: It's just crazy, Bro, you knew who this guy was

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Speaker 4: before he got there. You know what I'm saying. You

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Speaker 4: acting like, oh, we didn't know he's going to do this, nigga,

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Speaker 4: you were just with him a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 4: He was just there.

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Speaker 5: What can they do if he's sitting there one morning?

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Speaker 5: Shots up. I'm still on the team.

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Speaker 6: They can't work to the building up access payout.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they can agree to a buyout, deep want to.

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Speaker 5: I want to stay ready, y'all.

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Speaker 4: But what does it do for the their roster and

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Speaker 4: their tax.

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Speaker 1: I think they'll be fine, bro. I think they can wave.

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Speaker 1: They can buy them out. But they're saying like they're

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Speaker 1: going to try to trade them, which like, because how

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Speaker 1: do you trade the guys?

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Speaker 4: That's the best thing for them to get something, because

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Speaker 4: that spot has to be filled for them. I think

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Speaker 4: that's the best way they can swap.

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Speaker 3: Listening man, we play every Tuesday and Thursday. Yeah, eleven o'clock,

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Speaker 3: come in there and get some ros, my boy. We

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Speaker 3: uh chats Worth man, pull up on us.

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Speaker 1: See if make that track to Chatsworth. Although I heard

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Speaker 1: he's a valley guy actually from what I've heard.

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Speaker 3: You know, keep the legs, you know, right, man? Every

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Speaker 3: holiday season I lie to myself. I'm like, this year,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be thoughtful, I'm gonna plan ahead, and then boom,

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Speaker 3: before I know it, it's December twenty third and I'm

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Speaker 3: standing in line buying a gift card like a rookie.

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Speaker 4: That's a turnover waiting to happen exactly.

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Speaker 3: But this year I actually ran the play correctly, no panic,

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Speaker 3: no last second heave. I gave an aura frame and

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Speaker 3: let me tell you that's a slam dunk gift right there.

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Speaker 5: For real.

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Speaker 1: Why is it that the people we're closest to are

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Speaker 1: the hardest to buy for? You know everything about them

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Speaker 1: except with the rap. But everybody's got photos they love.

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Speaker 1: Your mom wants to see the baby pigs, Your boys

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Speaker 1: want to see the throwback hoop shots. Your partner wants

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Speaker 1: to vacation selfies where you actually smile.

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Speaker 4: And the thing that makes rso dope is that it's easy,

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Speaker 4: unlimited free photos and videos. Just download the r app

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Speaker 2: We can.

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Speaker 1: Up there in league years bro, farewell tours and all

461
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Speaker 1: of that.

462
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Speaker 2: Lebron James. The streak of games in double digits has.

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Speaker 1: Come to an end man. He made the game winning

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Speaker 1: assist in a tie ball game that ended the streak

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Speaker 1: to Ruey Hotchimore in the corner for a corner three.

466
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Speaker 1: Ended up with eight points on four to seventeen, shooting

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Speaker 1: five from three, eleven assists. Of course, just we just

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Speaker 1: want to run down some of the amazing stats about

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Speaker 1: this Lebron streak. The last time Lebron James scored a

470
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Speaker 1: feud in ten points in an NBA game, the iPhone

471
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Speaker 1: hadn't been out, The Sopranos were still on air, the

472
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Speaker 1: Marvel Cinematic Universe didn't exist.

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Speaker 4: Like the iPhone, iPhone like sixteen.

474
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Speaker 1: Yeah, seventeen, there's a lot of we were still Aaron

475
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 1: Rodgers hadn't thrown a touchdown passing the NFL yet.

476
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 4: That's crazy.

477
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: Cooper flag was fifteen days old, okay before tonight. The

478
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: last time Lebron James scored less than ten points was

479
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: January fifth of two thousand and seven versus the Bucks.

480
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 1: Drew Gooden thirty one and sixteen, Larry Hughes dropped twenty two.

481
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,719
Speaker 1: Big Z had eleven in there, and Lebron had eight points,

482
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: nine assists, three of thirteen shooting the Cavs won the game,

483
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 1: ninety five to eighty six. KD wasn't in the league.

484
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Speaker 4: George Bush was the President's crazy wow for Obama.

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Speaker 3: That's what two thousand and seven, early man, I was

486
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Speaker 3: in the middle of an eighteen game losing.

487
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Speaker 1: Street Twitter was nine months old, Brownie was two. But yeah,

488
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 1: one thousand and two hundre ninety seven straight games. Tonight,

489
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: that streak has ended.

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Speaker 4: Sad. It's kind of sad man a lot. I mean, Bro,

491
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 4: it's not the streak has ended. It's the way it's

492
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:17,439
Speaker 4: like seeing him the decline of most players usually happens

493
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 4: kind of like last year. He was still yo, and

494
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 4: to see it happened like last The other night against

495
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 4: Phoenix was like he had to struggle to get there

496
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 4: and this is his third game.

497
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Speaker 3: Yeah, get his legs and somebody else is a tip

498
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Speaker 3: top sha.

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Speaker 5: I was sitting on the side of a bat.

500
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 4: I get that, and I gave give him grace. But

501
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 4: this game there was no Luca, so he had every

502
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 4: opportunity to have the ball.

503
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 5: In his hands more if they won.

504
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 4: He was in game, so they did win. I'm just

505
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 4: saying for Lebron as as a fan of watching the game,

506
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 4: of Lebron and seeing him like this, it's a little sad, Bro.

507
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying that he's done, but I see

508
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 4: the decline, and most people are not used to seeing

509
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 4: I mean for me to y'all say it every time,

510
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 4: but just never happened until like this week.

511
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: The guy's been declining for a long time. I like,

512
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think so. I think in the playoffs, Bro,

513
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 1: Julius Randall bust his ass in the playoffs last year,

514
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: cooked him.

515
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 2: That's a sign of Lebron declining.

516
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 1: Bro. Julius Randall beat him up on both ends of

517
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: the court. He couldn't score on him, and Julius Randall

518
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,919
Speaker 1: was the best player in that series.

519
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 2: Look, man, Julius.

520
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 4: Random can you get the numbers, plase Chris.

521
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 1: Julius Randall was killing him.

522
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 4: I remember playing well Russell Minnesota didn't shoot that well. Bro.

523
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: Julius rand.

524
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 4: Rebounding Lebron was his matches.

525
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 2: He killed him. He was like, that's what I'm just like.

526
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 4: Guys like John Randall was.

527
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: He was the dominant the Bro to watch those games. Bro,

528
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 1: At the end of the game, Lebron couldn't do ship

529
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 1: like Julius Randall dominated that series.

530
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 2: I'm telling you.

531
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 4: His numbers is better in every category.

532
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: No they're not, Bro, Yes, he's averaging more points. Bro,

533
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 1: I'm telling you Lebron was getting worked. He did not

534
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: have an impact on that series. They lost in five games, Bro, Like,

535
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: it's not because Lebron was still good. If Lebron was

536
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: still Lebron, they not losing it five games to Minnesota.

537
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 4: They lost because ar was not playing the same way

538
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 4: he played throughout the regular season.

539
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 2: Bro, Him and Luca couldn't do nothing.

540
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 4: Lucas showed up those games. It was rebounding. I think

541
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 4: it was. That was kind of.

542
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 1: Better than this guy. Think about what we're saying. Julius

543
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: Randall outplayed Lebron James over the course of a playoff series.

544
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

545
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 4: I have to look at it.

546
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is like that sign of a

547
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: Lebron James declining. Bro, Like back in the days Julius Randall.

548
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: Come on, BRO, that's quick work. He's making a Julius

549
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 1: Randall for one.

550
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 4: We'll get back to it.

551
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 7: But Bro, I'm.

552
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: Telling you, Bro, he got out Worth got out beat up,

553
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 1: like he couldn't do nothing with Julius Randall, and then

554
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 1: he couldn't attack him just one on one, just like

555
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,199
Speaker 1: and I'm watching him, like, Yo, Lebron is forty. He's

556
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: not supposed to be able to beat up on every

557
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: single play who's in the prime of their career, you know,

558
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 1: like it's to be expected man like him coming off

559
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: of the Sciatica and like just not being you know,

560
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: the kind of player that we're used to him being.

561
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: I'm you know, I'm not too surprised about it.

562
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 4: Bro. Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say here. You

563
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 4: average twenty five points? Is that it right? There's nine

564
00:28:54,880 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 4: rebounds twenty five nine and what else? And six five

565
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 4: didn't come with it?

566
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 6: Minus that's my that's that's minus eight in his minutes loss.

567
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 4: That's why one. All right, Randalls, he was killing Bro.

568
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 4: I'm looking at him twenty killing Okay, Bro watched Bron's

569
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 4: numbers is better than Bro.

570
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: He did not better than him.

571
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 4: Shot he shot.

572
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 2: He did not play better.

573
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: Yo. Lebron did not play better than Julius Randall series Bro.

574
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 2: They lost him four games one.

575
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Danny, like, how did you lose for

576
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: to one while you're severely out playing the second best

577
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: player on the team.

578
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 5: Bro, Yeah, but the numbers telling the story.

579
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 4: John shot, he shot thirty five from three, he had

580
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 4: higher field goal percentage.

581
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 5: They don't tell the story.

582
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 4: It tells a lot of the story.

583
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: No, it does not, Bro.

584
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 6: Are we talking about he did better numbers than every

585
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 6: he did?

586
00:29:55,640 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: Bro? He's dominating fourth quarters. Julius Randam was the best

587
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: best player in that.

588
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 5: Series, the best player in that series for sure. The

589
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 5: number he watch it.

590
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 4: Go back to the numbers, game averages. If the average

591
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 4: how much twenty six a game? What? What?

592
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: Bro?

593
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 4: Okay, Bro, what the fuck did we get? Julius Randall's

594
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 4: the best player in that series? Bro? What did Luca average? Bro?

595
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 4: Pull it up, BRO, thirty, Julius Randall's the best players? Yes,

596
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 4: average more points and numbers.

597
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:30,959
Speaker 2: And yeah, he's on the team that won.

598
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: Time.

599
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 4: Did you come from the police shot today? What the

600
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 4: fuck is going on here?

601
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: We just talked about hold on, Bro, we just talked about.

602
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 4: This didn't show up sixteen when you all year. That's

603
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 4: why they lost. Rebounding a thirty on a one team,

604
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 4: you average thirty on.

605
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 5: A four brow I eighteen on solo.

606
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: Ron and Luca played better than Julius Randall and Anthony Edwards.

607
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 1: In the series, they lost four to one.

608
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 4: Because they are and they couldn't rebound. Rudy Gober had

609
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 4: thirty and twenty. That's why they broke that had no rebound.

610
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 4: That's part of the Lebron job. Most of the games

611
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 4: in Minnesota one, they shot terribly from three. They had third, third,

612
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 4: and second chance.

613
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: That's part. Bro Look a look at how they are scoring. Broeri,

614
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: Lebron James and Luka Doncic weren't good enough. You got

615
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: out played by Julius Randall.

616
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 4: Bro same, But Luca had thirty and Lebron average twenty

617
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 4: six and aar had sixteen.

618
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 2: And Luca and lost.

619
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 4: Four didn't average his most point dan average on the

620
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 4: recund season.

621
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 2: Bro Hold on Danny, damn Danny.

622
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: If they would have won that series, you would have

623
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: said it because Austin Reeves.

624
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 2: Does that make any sense to you?

625
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 4: Because they played the way.

626
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: They Nobody would give Austin Reeves the credit for winning

627
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: a series. I figured that Luka don and Lebron James

628
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: is in that would never happen.

629
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 4: I figured, I'm talking to her. This is the guy

630
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 4: that wouldn't reize the Superstars more than anybody else because

631
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 4: they need to win the game. Nobody needs to win

632
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 4: the game. Yeah, how it works, Not how it works

633
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 4: was that everybody has to do their part. Bro, niggaus

634
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 4: that showed up doing the regulations to do the same

635
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 4: thing they do in the playoffs. Am I right? Paul?

636
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 4: Am I wrong?

637
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 5: They did?

638
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 4: Austin did not have a sixteen doing the regularly. We

639
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 4: have twenty plus more points. That's the difference. Bro.

640
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 5: No, Bro couldn't guard.

641
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 4: No, they couldn't rebound.

642
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 5: No series. Let me tell you what the series changed

643
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 5: when Rudy.

644
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 4: Got thirty and twenty. They couldn't rebound.

645
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 5: That was in the deciding game. Heye had thirty.

646
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 4: That changed close.

647
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: They lost four to one.

648
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 4: They got dominated rebound. Bro, the Minnesota did not shoot. Well,

649
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 4: I'm not tripping what I saw.

650
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: You think this series was close in the four to one,

651
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: You think that was a close series.

652
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 4: They weren't decided about twenty They won twenty point games.

653
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 4: They were close games. End of the game.

654
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you couldn't.

655
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 4: It was mainly because they couldn't fucking rebound.

656
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: They couldn't beat these guys, and your best players couldn't

657
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: take you home. Like, what planet do we put this

658
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: series on Austin reeves.

659
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 4: You can't put every game on the best players because

660
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 4: because they didn't want.

661
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: So why do we pay them the most if we

662
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: don't expect the most from them, you don't understand that

663
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Speaker 1: you expect more from Austin reasons.

664
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Speaker 4: Lebron James, I can't say. I can't blame the stars

665
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Speaker 4: if they did their job.

666
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: They didn't do their job, but the job, they didn't

667
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: do the job.

668
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 2: They didn't do the job.

669
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Speaker 3: Bro.

670
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: They didn't do the job.

671
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 2: Luca and Lebron didn't do their job.

672
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Speaker 5: Bro.

673
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 2: I mean they lost that series like it's decisive. You

674
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 2: guys got beat up.

675
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 5: You say that for a game seven?

676
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 4: Yes was the best player, Yes he was.

677
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: Everybody watched it in real time.

678
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 4: That Ron, he definitely did not.

679
00:33:55,840 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: He did his physicality, he did Bro, and he made

680
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: way more timely buckets in the clutch. He was just

681
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: better the whole time.

682
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 3: How many offensive rebounds that Julius Rando was more so?

683
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 5: Rudy? Okay, five rebounds?

684
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 2: I did it?

685
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: You think Laker fans watched that series and said, damn,

686
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: if only Austin would have did it? Novers away.

687
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,439
Speaker 4: Second guess Austin because the playoffs, No, man that guy

688
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 4: because against Denver Minnesota he didn't show up. They were like, yo,

689
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 4: he's not show as.

690
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 1: Sure if Austin carried a team to the conference finals,

691
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: we have him as a next guy. But like, come on,

692
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 1: manon has been declining, is what I'm trying to say.

693
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: That's so all the reward.

694
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 4: And all the crisis, like nobody else is supposed to

695
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 4: do their job.

696
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: I don't.

697
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with that.

698
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 4: They are high power scoring offense and how they beat people.

699
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 4: They were not good defensive.

700
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 5: I got a question.

701
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 3: I got a question if you go and I and

702
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 3: you didn't see the results, and he was like, damn

703
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 3: Luca average thirty and Lebron iverage twenty six, would you

704
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 3: thought they won that series?

705
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, it depends. I don't know.

706
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 5: No, yes, no, no, no, no, no.

707
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 4: That depends this team. I would actually what Austin did too,

708
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 4: because they were three headed monds. I can't just say,

709
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 4: oh this Lebron and Luca, what the fuck did Ruey

710
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 4: and Austin Reeves do?

711
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 5: So if Kobe Iverage iverage twenty six, you.

712
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: Say, what is bat Shaw? Dude? They needed? Really you're

713
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: gonna say, yo, beat Sean Rick Fox didn't do it.

714
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 4: That analogy, Bro, This team makeup is way different than

715
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 4: those teams. It wasn't a two man's show back, it's

716
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 4: a three man team. It's a three man's show here.

717
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 4: If those three don't produce, they fucking lose. That's what

718
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 4: we saw.

719
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 5: Who was Minnesota's three man machine?

720
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 4: They didn't. They didn't have a three man machine.

721
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:52,959
Speaker 5: So the Lakers had enough.

722
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 4: They needed that to win. They need three men to

723
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 4: show up to win games. That's what we knew when

724
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 4: they had they didn't have defense. We knew that the

725
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 4: only way they beat team if they outscored them. They

726
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,720
Speaker 4: need three of those guys to score. That was always

727
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 4: the case with them.

728
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 1: Let me ask you something, Lebron James of twenty fifteen,

729
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: Like you really think you think he doesn't win that

730
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: series against that Templewove.

731
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Speaker 8: No ways, absolutely, no way they look that Lebron James.

732
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 1: What is the next topic? Oh, we're gonna do our

733
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: picks review? Because man, I saw the series and I

734
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: came away with you. No, I've watched the series.

735
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Speaker 4: You can't say it's you and Kg's faulk y'all. Have

736
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 4: you evere thirty in k twenty six and you say, oh,

737
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 4: they should win that series. You canna be like, No,

738
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Speaker 4: Ray and fucking Rondo didn't score, they didn't do what

739
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 4: they're supposed to do, and y'all lose the caliber.

740
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 5: Paul, this is my thing.

741
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Speaker 1: You'd be like, why is your fucking I didn't say

742
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 1: they didn't show up to play.

743
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 2: I said they got out played. This is a difference.

744
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: They got beat up, you lost the fight, Like it's

745
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: on you.

746
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 1: We count on you to win the fight.

747
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 3: I played in a lot of games where Rey Rondo

748
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 3: or KG or somebody or I didn't show up and

749
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 3: we still found the way to win.

750
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 5: They win.

751
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 3: All three of them didn't have to play well for

752
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 3: them to win, like Genoble, Duncan and Tony didn't. All

753
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 3: of them didn't play well all the time.

754
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 5: And they won.

755
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 3: You know that when you have three, most of the

756
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 3: time two of them are going to play well that

757
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 3: you have.

758
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 4: But we also had defense. You had defense. That team

759
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 4: didn't have defense. You knew that. Everybody knew that. They

760
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,240
Speaker 4: didn't have rebounding, they had no bigs. Bron played the five.

761
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 8: Yeah.

762
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: I think if they relied on offense.

763
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 4: So they couldn't rely on.

764
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: They relied on they relied on Lebron James.

765
00:37:55,440 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 4: They were three verse six, Bro.

766
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: They lost four to one. Man, they got beat up,

767
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: and it's okay. Lebron's forty eight years old. It's okay, Bro.

768
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 4: They couldn't they couldn't play defense.

769
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 5: What bigs Minnesota have r.

770
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Speaker 4: Numbers in my opinion, ubers throughout the whole series and

771
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 4: be killed on the glass the whole series, in my opinion,

772
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 4: like a hundred rebounds.

773
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: The team is dependent on Luca and Lebron to be great.

774
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,919
Speaker 2: They could not summon it that series, and so they

775
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 2: lost with that, all right.

776
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: Man, As I was saying, we want to preview our picks.

777
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: Uh last time out, Duncan Robinson over two and a

778
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: half threes, Danny and myself said more.

779
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 2: Paul said less, d m P. So we get a

780
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 2: mulligain for that.

781
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 5: I should win, Yes, I should get a win for that, right.

782
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: Miles Turner one and a half threes, Danny said more,

783
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 1: Paul and I said less. He had one Cade twenty

784
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: six and a half points more or less, Danny, I

785
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: said more. Paul said less. He had seventeen in a

786
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: Detroit loss. Uh Yannis twenty nine and a half Danny

787
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: and Voss said Les paulseid he had two after suffering

788
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: a cass train three minutes into the game. Right now,

789
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,439
Speaker 1: because we're actually going to keep a tally in terms

790
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: of the standings, we're all five and two since Thanksgiving

791
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 1: because we're starting from Thanksgiving.

792
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 2: Don't access why we're conveniently.

793
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: Starting from Thanksgiving, but we're starting from Thanksgiving.

794
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 2: Yes, with start from Thanksgiving.

795
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 1: The guys, if you've been betting with us since Thanksgiving,

796
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 1: you'd be in the black. Okay, So not saying, just saying,

797
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: all right, let's get to our favorite part of the

798
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: show in the green, which are the picks of the

799
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Speaker 1: night presented by prize picks. Tyler Hero more or less

800
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: than twenty one and a half points?

801
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 4: Oh h Norm didn't play last game?

802
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 5: Right?

803
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 4: If I'm not mistaken, he's gonna play? Is he questionable?

804
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 4: Was he playing next game? I feel like if normOn plays,

805
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 4: I feel like Tyler Hill is gonna be less. But uh,

806
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 4: I think he's not gonna play. I'm gonna go more

807
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 4: for Taler Hill more.

808
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,280
Speaker 1: How about bad Mota Baio more or less than eighteen

809
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: and a half less?

810
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 2: Oh, you're going less?

811
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: As well.

812
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 3: Sorry, yeah, because I just feel like he's gonna have

813
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 3: his handful. You got a defensive presence like Sugs Sugs.

814
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: He's one of my favorite guys.

815
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 5: That's a tough matchup. You're gonna be a little bit.

816
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: Tired running the ragged all right, Less, I'll go with

817
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: less as well. For Tyler hero bad monte Bio more

818
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: or less than eighteen and a half points.

819
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 4: I feel like he so you've not been scoring a

820
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 4: lot this year, He's just been doing like more. He's

821
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 4: shooting some three shooting well, he's more of like quarterbacking

822
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 4: on Draymond.

823
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go less, uh, Paul More, I'm gonna go less.

824
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: I like the I like the Orlando front line in

825
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: terms of physicality and versatility and doing a good job

826
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: against being Outebayo Lakers versus Celtics.

827
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 2: Austin reeves Man thirty.

828
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: And a half.

829
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, Luca's not in there, so he's definitely.

830
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: I'm going more. He's gonna put the team on his back.

831
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 4: I mean he's gonna get thirty plus because Lucas not

832
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 4: that he's.

833
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 5: Got into Austin Larry Birds, Lebron's.

834
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 4: Trying to take it still even with Luca, he's still

835
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 4: taking like a back seat, so he's gonna get the opportunity.

836
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 2: Jalen Brown, Last, but not least more or less than.

837
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 1: Twenty four and a half.

838
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 4: He took a rest game today.

839
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 5: Man, I got more on his Brown.

840
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll do more again. It's the Lakers aren't exactly

841
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: you know, bout Celtics in terms of defense. So I'm

842
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: gonna go with Jalen Brown. Those were our picks of

843
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,919
Speaker 1: the night, presented by Prize Picks. Uh, let's get into

844
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: our next topic. Okay, we're we're okay.

845
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 4: He was on the bottom their wigs, they may not.

846
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 2: But all right, last but not least, let's do DeAndre

847
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 2: eight in more or less than fourteen and a half points?

848
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 4: What do you have to know? He was like eight

849
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 4: for eight, right or something like that. I'm gonna go.

850
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go more because I think bron.

851
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: Is on eighteen eighteen, no more or less than fourteen

852
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: and a half, all right was his numbers?

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00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 4: Yeah?

854
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, he has man.

855
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm gonna going more because I think him

856
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 4: and Aar have a good connect, so they're both thrown

857
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 4: him a lot of Lobsah, I'm gonna get a lot

858
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 4: of drop offs.

859
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: They're running at O's for him as a which is amazing.

860
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 4: You gotta keep him involve, you gotta keep him mentally checked,

861
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 4: like checked in.

862
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: So you gotta I'm gonna go against the grain and

863
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: go less. All right, man, Let's let's get into this

864
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: Giannis update, because since our last show, Jannis and his

865
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: agent have started conversations with the Bucks because he never asked.

866
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: We'll get into that. We'll get into that about his future,

867
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: which like, you're not talking about a contract extension, so

868
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 1: what other future are we talking about, and whether it's

869
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: best if he stays in Milwaukee goes elsewhere. This is

870
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 1: according to Sham Sharani of ESPN. He also went down

871
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: Wednesday night with the cav string, which when I first

872
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: heard the non contact, did you.

873
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 4: See that it was after a basket running back on defense.

874
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: And he just fell. Something happened and he fell, And

875
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: so I thought this process would get started in the

876
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 1: off season. It should have got started last offseason. If

877
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: we're keeping in a thousand, like you didn't want to

878
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: come back, you.

879
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 2: Let the Bucks make this desperation move.

880
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 4: He made them make the desperation move.

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00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:22,919
Speaker 2: I say, you you let them.

882
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, oh man, I mean believe it.

883
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 4: It's not like he he had much let them mean,

884
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 4: they're gonna do what they want to do.

885
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying, do you think Giannis is like, there's no

886
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 1: need for that. I'm happy to be here. They do

887
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 1: a stretch provision of twenty million dollars of dead money

888
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 1: for five years.

889
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't think. I think he had an

890
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 4: inclination of what was going on with Dame more than

891
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 4: he had of what was going on with them signed

892
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 4: Miles Turner. I think that was them.

893
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: It's like, we're gonna do the Dame thing and we're

894
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 1: going to figure out to get some kind of help.

895
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 4: And they just said this is how we fix it.

896
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:04,959
Speaker 1: We're going to do Sure.

897
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 4: He thought that was okay, but they didn't get anything else,

898
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:08,919
Speaker 4: and he was like, this is not enough.

899
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: Got you that's fair, that's my that's fair.

900
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 4: I'm like he's like, Miles Turner, cool, got rid of Brooke, Okay,

901
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:17,720
Speaker 4: we Turner, what else are we getting?

902
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: I just I don't know how Dame goes down and

903
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: you look at your agent like, this is what a

904
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: lot of fans don't know, is that agents many of them.

905
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: They have to be deeply intimate with the CAP and

906
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: the collective bargaining agreement and how teams construct rosters. It's

907
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: like their job. It's almost like they know as much

908
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: about roster construction as gms because they have to know

909
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: in order to get their clients placed in different places. Yeah.

910
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, because they also need to know what the markets

911
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 4: where they can go.

912
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: So if you have a top notch age and he's

913
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: telling you, like, no, the Bucks can't, they can't improve

914
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: the roster you like. So I'm just saying, like, Giannis

915
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: knows this right, so let's just say that. And his

916
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: whole thing has been I want to win big.

917
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 5: Yeah.

918
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 2: We go into the season, the Bucks have a nice start.

919
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: Then they lose eight out of nine, and then in quick, quick,

920
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: rapid succession.

921
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 2: And I'm not wearing a tenfold hat.

922
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, it's very convenient that Yannis is now

923
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: out away from the team two to four weeks, which

924
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: if the trade takes four weeks, Yannie's injury will be

925
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: four weeks.

926
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 4: Yes, but by the fifteen, which is two weeks, is

927
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 4: when more people are available for trade. Yeah, So in

928
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 4: two weeks is when, Yeah, it's gonna start happening now,

929
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 4: but teams can already start talking, you know, will teams

930
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,439
Speaker 4: want to do that? Will they move him by that time?

931
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 4: I don't know.

932
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: Do you think teams through back channels can get a

933
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: sense of Giannie's actual health. I think they probably could

934
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: figure it out if they had to, right, I don't

935
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: even think it matters. I think if he was like

936
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: hurt for real this whole season, it would affect his

937
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: trade market for sure.

938
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 4: Either way. It's not a tear, it's not it's not

939
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 4: a season. And ye, he's fine back in a couple

940
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 4: like he can be back in a month, so like

941
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 4: it happened for the second half of the season. So regardless,

942
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 4: if they got back channels front channels, they know he's

943
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 4: okay and he's able to play this season.

944
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: And another thing I do want to I just think

945
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: it's important to mention, like again, Jannis and his people,

946
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: it's been reported, well reported, well sourced people they ask

947
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: for Nick trade this summer, Like Jannie could have done

948
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: this this summer. But I think Jannice is like mister

949
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: nice guy, wants to look good to the Bucks fans,

950
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: and he doesn't want he doesn't have the Stones to

951
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 1: pull a Jimmy Butler and show up to the ring

952
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: and get booed in the middle of a trade request.

953
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: He don't. He's not. He not built like that.

954
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 4: Again, so you don't.

955
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 3: I think when frustration builds and it turned people who

956
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:19,760
Speaker 3: you think are something and something.

957
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: That you think he could be pushed to that. So

958
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: this is just kind of like the opening.

959
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 4: Things got ugly. I'm not saying, you know how the Stones.

960
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 4: I just think he's a professional guy. I don't think

961
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 4: it has to do with this has to be a

962
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 4: professional like he's trying to be a professional and just focus.

963
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: On but his thing. Though, Dame Lillard did the professional

964
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: nice guy route and got said to Milwaukee.

965
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 4: I mean, that's what he wanted to play with us,

966
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.

967
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,760
Speaker 1: He didn't want to go to Milwaukee, Bro, he wanted

968
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 1: to go to Miami. And because he did the nice

969
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 1: guy ship, they said, fuck you, We're gonna do what

970
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: we want.

971
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 4: Which most organizations and rightfully so should do. But again,

972
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 4: they gave him a opportunity to play with a team

973
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 4: that is contented, like another MVP caliber player.

974
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 1: I guess that's one way of looking at it, but

975
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 1: like the other way, it's just like you wanted to

976
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: go to Miami, we sent you to Milwaukee.

977
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 4: And he was like, he even think Miami.

978
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's definitely possible. I thought I thought

979
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:19,959
Speaker 1: he could do very well in Miami. Yeah, him, Bam

980
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: and Jimmy. I think that would have been a very

981
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: productive pairing before.

982
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 5: We saw.

983
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 3: Play and they went like when you saw him with

984
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 3: the Greek figure, were like, Oh, it's gonna be them

985
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 3: in the Celtics. That's what everybody was saying. Uh, who

986
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 3: knows what happened in Miami. But like that was like

987
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 3: I just said, I just say that.

988
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: I'll just say it, like, if you have an idea

989
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: as a superstar about I want to get here, doing

990
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: it the nice way is probably not gonna get you there.

991
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 4: I don't think it matters the way you do it.

992
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 4: I didn't do it a nice way. They were like,

993
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 4: we're not. We're gonna go the best route for us

994
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 4: to get something in return, and we don't want to

995
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 4: put you against a contender or against a team that's

996
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 4: like a rival. I'm saying, they want you in our conference,

997
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 4: so it's probably better to trade a guy east to

998
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 4: West everywhere he.

999
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 5: Wanted to go.

1000
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 1: How did he do it? How did he always end

1001
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: up where he need, where he wanted, exactly where he

1002
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: wanted to go.

1003
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 2: It wasn't by doing this ship.

1004
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: I'm telling you.

1005
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 2: It wasn't by oh maybe this off season. Oh my

1006
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 2: representation is starting to during the season. But like, that's

1007
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 2: not how it happens.

1008
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 4: Who you're dealing with. Bro san Antonio wasn't doing it,

1009
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 4: and I'm sending you where you want to go Portland.

1010
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 4: They ended up. They didn't say that because they brought

1011
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 4: him back to a forty some million dollar extensions, like

1012
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 4: they severed ties. So it wasn't like they were doing dirty.

1013
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 4: They gave him an opportunity to win.

1014
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: He gave him.

1015
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 4: I think he gave destinations of like, yo, listen, this

1016
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 4: is will we get the best back. You have an

1017
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 4: opportunity to win, came back, give you a forty ball.

1018
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: While I think we looked at it, I think we

1019
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:02,919
Speaker 1: as people that just Yanna's championship opportunity. I don't think Dame,

1020
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: when he got traded to Milwaukee, saw it as oh,

1021
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: this is great. I don't think that's how he felt

1022
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: when he got traded. You know, but let's get to

1023
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: the teams that would get in the Yannis sweepstake.

1024
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 2: So obviously we know the Knicks.

1025
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: They always have a list when they do the demands, right,

1026
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 1: preferences or whatever. We know the Knicks are there because

1027
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 1: he acts to go there in the off season. The

1028
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: Spurs are reportedly aggressively pursuing him.

1029
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 4: This recently or last this past summer.

1030
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this is recent, yeah, right now again,

1031
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: And I think it matters, like Yanni's has a say

1032
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 1: in this because he's a free agent after next season.

1033
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 4: So extension, yes.

1034
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: And if you're sending if you're sending valuable pieces over

1035
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 1: to Milwaukee, you better know that Yiannis wants to stay

1036
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: on your team.

1037
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 4: That'll be all again, that's all done before the trade.

1038
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 5: Like yes.

1039
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: And so I know a lot of people are having

1040
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: fantasies about Okay, see, I want to break and San Antonio.

1041
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:16,919
Speaker 5: I want to see them break the center.

1042
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 3: Okay see, I don't want keep the Big three cinemon

1043
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 3: draft picks, all them draft.

1044
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:22,280
Speaker 5: Picks they got.

1045
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 3: In Milwaukee. Yeah, rebuilding. You want to see them break

1046
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 3: the internet, break the NBA.

1047
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 4: Listen, I don't they have the capability to do it.

1048
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 4: I don't.

1049
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 5: I don't want to. I don't.

1050
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:41,760
Speaker 1: I want to see it already.

1051
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:42,879
Speaker 4: They're already a dominant team.

1052
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: We don't need to make I don't think Okay has

1053
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: the will over again with k Okay. See, this is

1054
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: not this is so against what they do. They're not

1055
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: gonna they're they're twenty and one. Like to bring in

1056
00:52:55,280 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: a huge personality who has demands. Right now, they got

1057
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: guys that have no demands.

1058
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:06,760
Speaker 3: Culture that shit changed. He walking into like that culture

1059
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 3: to it. That's like a village. Don't know, that's like

1060
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 3: a village. Everybody the thing, like you coming into something

1061
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 3: that's like structure, like you gotta fit in.

1062
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 2: What they call. You think Janni's wants to go basically

1063
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 2: be the number two.

1064
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 4: No, he's not doing that. He wants to go so

1065
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 4: bro I think he wants to do his own I.

1066
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: Don't think Jannis has a desire to be Shay's batman.

1067
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 2: I mean, excuse me, Robin, what do you think he'll

1068
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 2: be like New York?

1069
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: Well, this is a controversial opinion. I think Brunson should

1070
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: be the guy that moves. They would never do that,

1071
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: you think instead of moving cat Yeah, I think I

1072
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,399
Speaker 1: think Brunson and Gianni's are a horrible fit. Jannis wants

1073
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: the ball is SODA's Brunton like, it's just it's gonna

1074
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: be a stilted offense, not to not to the It's different.

1075
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 1: They can operate in different areas, Like he wants to

1076
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: dribble and so does Brunton is like the league leader

1077
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 1: in dribbles. Like the Knicks are not gonna do it.

1078
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 2: I'm telling you that's crazy.

1079
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: The Knicks are not gonna do it. But I think

1080
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: it would be much better if Gianni's a bunch of

1081
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: defenders who can shoot it and cat then Brunson and

1082
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,760
Speaker 1: Jannis and Yannis kind of playing for trying to figure

1083
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 1: out Mitch or I think they're a bad basketball fit

1084
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: to be honest, Yeah, yes, or maybe figure out what

1085
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,760
Speaker 1: to do what to do with Mitch or more naturally,

1086
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: let him be a twenty minute guy. But I think

1087
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: the Brunton and Jiannis thing that does nothing for me,

1088
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: especially if you're sending og over as well. That's of

1089
00:54:59,360 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: Entyson team.

1090
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I don't want to We don't want to

1091
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 4: see it. I don't want to see you want to say,

1092
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 4: I don't want to I think Santini is a good

1093
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 4: look for him. Why not? I don't think wants to

1094
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 4: go west, but west, Like, why not partner with Anthony Edwards?

1095
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, like or something like that.

1096
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 1: I think Gianni's doesn't want to be I think he

1097
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 1: wants to be in a big, spotlight NBA blue chip

1098
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: situation like San Antonio. Okay, see, I get it on paper,

1099
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 1: would be fun, but Yannas ain't trying to.

1100
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 2: He's not forcing his way to San Antonio.

1101
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 4: To really force it to be traded. He got a

1102
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 4: couple of destinations they have, they have more of a

1103
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 4: package to give up.

1104
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying is he's not blowing up

1105
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 1: his relationship with the Bucks fan base, and you know

1106
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,439
Speaker 1: his perception. You don't think there No, I'm not saying

1107
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 1: he couldn't win. I just don't think that's what he

1108
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 1: envisions for himself. Like when Gianni's was like, yeah, I

1109
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: want to get out of Milwaukee, the small mark kid,

1110
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, I want to go to San Antonio.

1111
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 2: I don't think that's what he's been dreaming about.

1112
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 4: Again, I don't think anybody pictures that until the time

1113
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 4: comes and when the time happens, it's like, what's the

1114
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 4: best set up situation scenarios for me when you.

1115
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 3: Start to win when when it gets down to it,

1116
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 3: he's don't have everything laid out for him, it might

1117
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 3: make sense.

1118
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, like that's that's what that's what came about. That's

1119
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 4: what's want to play on the table right now, Like

1120
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 4: you don't say, oh like sometimes just on the table

1121
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 4: you didn't know it was gonna be there at the times.

1122
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 5: Look at the money, like, oh, Dan, you can get

1123
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 5: this money. Yeah, over here more and.

1124
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:35,479
Speaker 4: You're gonna save money and more than look at.

1125
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: No, bro, I'm not First of all, y'all keep calling

1126
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 1: me a Nick.

1127
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 2: I'm not a Knicks fan.

1128
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 7: You are.

1129
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: I'm not a Knicks fan. I watched the Knicks. I

1130
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: pay attention to the Knicks. A lot of people in

1131
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: my life in Knicks fans. I'm not personally. I don't

1132
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 1: live and doubt with the Knicks. I don't care about

1133
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:50,720
Speaker 1: the Knicks.

1134
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 2: Second of all, I.

1135
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: Don't think the Knicks trade the Cat trade does anything.

1136
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 2: I don't.

1137
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,800
Speaker 1: I don't think the Knicks are materially better by doing this.

1138
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 4: Some of the defensive problems.

1139
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 1: Yes, that would that would help. But I think the offense,

1140
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 1: as stilted as it is, it becomes more still.

1141
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 4: To I think you have more transition, bro, Maybe you

1142
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 4: get more transition jay Len Browns can play off the

1143
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 4: ball a little more like Giannic can create and make.

1144
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 4: He can just shoot, he can spot up and shoot.

1145
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 4: Now he can post. He actually give you more rebound

1146
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 4: and defense.

1147
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: What about paying off the ball, because that's a non starter.

1148
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: He doesn't like it.

1149
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 4: He can.

1150
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 2: At the end of last season, he never been happier.

1151
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: Remember Dame had the Cavs situation, and down the stretch,

1152
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: Giannis was just doing the Gianni's ball things, dropping mad points.

1153
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: So all of that got to the playoffs and all

1154
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 1: of that like he loves that ship. Then of course

1155
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: in the bro in the playoffs is like that ship

1156
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: don't work, and if he can do that, he wants to.

1157
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 2: I don't think the Knixt thing makes a lot of sense,

1158
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 2: to be honest, I'm.

1159
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: Interested to see what teams get creative about trying to

1160
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 1: make it happen. You know, like Minnesota, I personally would

1161
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: love to see that. They don't have enough to They

1162
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: just don't, you know, like you'd have to package some

1163
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 1: of our ruty go bear really like I think I

1164
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: think Toronto has enough to package. But you know, he

1165
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: doesn't have the Massai connection anymore. You wonder if he

1166
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: cares about the Toronto thing anymore, because that was like

1167
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: in the NBA rumor mill for years, this Giannis Messi

1168
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: Toronto West African thing. But that's no longer the case.

1169
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 2: I'm interested to see how interesting.

1170
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 4: I think it's not gonna be interesting because he's gonna

1171
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 4: say where he wants to go, and he's gonna just

1172
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 4: target that, which it seems like New York. He's They've

1173
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 4: been mentioned in New York since the summer even before,

1174
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 4: like it's always been lingering for some time.

1175
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 6: That's the place where you want to go in the place, Yeah,

1176
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 6: most depend on Yeah, you gotta be savvy.

1177
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: I think the mistake. I think it's a mistake to

1178
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: try to do this right now. I think it's a

1179
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: mistake to do this right now instead of the offseason

1180
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: because a bunch of teams, No, I just think a

1181
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: bunch of teams are hard capped, so they're limited in

1182
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: their their roster maneuverability, and it's just it's just harder

1183
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 1: to execute in the middle of the season than before

1184
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: the draft, when everybody has way more cap and salary

1185
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: flexibility and inability to just do more ship whereas right

1186
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: now it's tough.

1187
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 2: But I'm watching it and he's out for four weeks.

1188
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 2: It's it's time.

1189
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: I think, before we get out of here, do you

1190
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: guys think Giannis ever puts another Bucks uniform on the rest.

1191
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 2: Of the season, So you think he's he's back, Yes,

1192
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 2: you think he comes back. I think it's over.

1193
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 3: I want to be in some type of game shape,

1194
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 3: like working behind the scenes. I want to play.

1195
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 4: I don't know. I think you can still work out.

1196
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1197
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 5: If he talks about being one of the all time.

1198
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 4: Scores, yeah, I don't know. Man, I think he comes back.

1199
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 2: I think he's done.

1200
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's over. I think it's over. Once

1201
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 1: I saw that that two to four that two to

1202
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: four week diagnosis, I was like, hmm, okay, it's a

1203
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: ninety some window to get a deal done. All right,

1204
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 1: let's get into I thought this was fascinating, honestly, says

1205
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 1: a lifelong media consumer. And you know a guy that's

1206
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 1: been in NBA media for a little while now, My

1207
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 1: guy Tim McMahon and Bobby Marx from ESPN. They put

1208
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: together a survey of anonymous gms and their opinions about

1209
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 1: three guys that it's it's it's been said that are

1210
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 1: on the trading block shut out to Bobby and you

1211
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 1: know asking them about Jamrant Yeah, uh, Trey Trey Young

1212
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 1: and Lamello Ball and would you want to make a

1213
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: deal to bring these you know in in NBA. Dork

1214
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: Paller is their distressed assets, meaning like people don't see

1215
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 1: them as favorably as maybe they once did.

1216
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 4: So out of the three, which one would you prefer?

1217
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 5: Jah?

1218
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 2: Not even close, not even not even close.

1219
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 4: I think I'm going Damn.

1220
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 5: I was gonna go la Mellow. This is my thing.

1221
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 5: The reason I'm going to mellow. He's never really had

1222
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 5: the opportunity.

1223
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 3: To be around a winning culture, a serious culture, curious culture,

1224
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 3: because I think if you hone his talents and put

1225
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 3: him in that situation to where he can learn the

1226
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 3: discipline and learn how to win, the true him will

1227
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 3: come out.

1228
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 5: Because his talent is there.

1229
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 4: Him is not serious.

1230
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 5: Nah, he needs to be around winning.

1231
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 3: You got to this kid won his whole life in

1232
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 3: high school. Like now, it's like, man, the culture ain't

1233
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 3: there for him, like you get them. I've seen players

1234
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 3: they like you think they one thing, they get into

1235
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 3: another culture.

1236
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 5: You're like, oh damn.

1237
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 2: The that comes to mind with that is honestly is

1238
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 2: is Andrew Wiggins.

1239
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 5: Get him in Miami. But in Miami.

1240
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 4: But again, Andrew Wiggins wasn't like LaMelo though he was

1241
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 4: kind of.

1242
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 1: He was a different look. He was different in the

1243
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 1: sense like it seemed like he just was indifferent, like

1244
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 1: he didn't give a ship.

1245
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 4: He wasn't. He didn't have a sense of urgency. But

1246
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 4: he also wasn't street street ball park.

1247
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 1: No, he wasn't. It's just one of those things like,

1248
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 1: for instance, like he's six foot nine, hops arms that

1249
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 1: go out to here.

1250
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 2: In Minnesota, they were begging him to rebound.

1251
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 1: He never did it. Golden State twenty twenty two. This

1252
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 1: guy turned into a rebounding machine. I mean it was

1253
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 1: contract year, but it means he always had that in them.

1254
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he was never unprofessional. Most guys play the

1255
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 4: best on contract years.

1256
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 5: So what are you saying these guys are unprofessional?

1257
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 1: I said the mellow professional.

1258
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're saying, and just.

1259
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 9: His approach to the game, like he has the forty

1260
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 9: jumper troubles, the forty ft, the forty foot jumpers, the

1261
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 9: horrible shots, election of lazy ass defense.

1262
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 1: What is the laughing and the joking and the it's losing.

1263
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 5: I'm trying to have fun through the losing.

1264
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 3: Okay, can we get into the guy. Guy he's averaging thirty.

1265
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 3: I'm trying to still keep a smile on my face. Jesus,

1266
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 3: he's averaging eighteen this year. By the words, he's playing horrible.

1267
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:44,439
Speaker 3: Find a way to get through this ball?

1268
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 1: I feel you.

1269
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 2: But he's averaging eighteen.

1270
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 5: He's horribletting. I've been here in this culture. It is ridiculous.

1271
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 4: It's supposed to be a VET this year.

1272
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 8: Bro.

1273
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 1: Come on, bro, he's he's playing on his second contract. Like, bro,

1274
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 1: get get with the program. He's what program?

1275
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 7: This is not?

1276
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 4: On?

1277
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 1: Pral on, Hold on, let me ask you something because

1278
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 1: I want to read some of these quotes and get

1279
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 1: your reactions because they're kind of flagrant. Look at Cooper

1280
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 1: flag and his approach to the game. He's not as

1281
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 1: talented as LaMelo ball, but like you could tell, this

1282
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 1: dude is deadly serious about being a great player and

1283
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 1: they're losing and he still takes it so serious.

1284
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 5: Can we pull up Lamello's stats?

1285
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 1: Bro, he's playing bad, BRO, He's playing.

1286
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 3: Is a mellow status professional growth as professionals like not

1287
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 3: coming to practice, Like what are.

1288
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 1: Y'all talking about what he's shooting thirty twenty nine week.

1289
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 3: I'm just growing up because we weak thirty eight seven

1290
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 3: years and we've done nothing.

1291
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 1: He's getting benched in the fourth quarter of close games, BRO,

1292
01:04:56,480 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 1: because he's their highest paid player's.

1293
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 5: Like fleeing off.

1294
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 3: They said, I'm trying to smile through the pain.

1295
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 1: So crazy.

1296
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 4: I think he's I think it's really good, bro.

1297
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 1: He is insanely talented. I believe in his talent. I

1298
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 1: think he's a talented guy. Like you know what, some

1299
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 1: people you'd be like, he don't got it, like I

1300
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 1: think LaMelo Ball has it. He's just he's just not serious.

1301
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 1: He's not.

1302
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 5: Here.

1303
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 1: We go all right, So this is this is a

1304
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:39,439
Speaker 1: GM about this is this is a GM talking about

1305
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 1: John Moran and why he wouldn't care to trade for him.

1306
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 1: He said, quote pain in the ass, injury prone, not

1307
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 1: that good anymore, Like damn, I don't think.

1308
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 2: Any of like based on what he's doing this season.

1309
01:05:56,280 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 1: None of what they said just now is wrong based

1310
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 1: on this season, He's been a pain in the ass.

1311
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 1: He's been injury prone, which he's I think he needs

1312
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 1: to change the scenery. But I'm just saying that he's

1313
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 1: not that good anymore this season. This is his worst year, Okay,

1314
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean he's not good anymore. He hasn't

1315
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 1: played good. But like if somebody said he's not that

1316
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 1: good anymore and be like, maybe the injuries have gotten

1317
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 1: to him. I don't think it's unreasonable. I happen to

1318
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 1: believe that he can overcome this, you know, in a

1319
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 1: different environment. But I don't think it's unreasonable to say

1320
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 1: anything that's been said in that statement. It's just harsh.

1321
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 3: Are being hypocritical right now? Why everything they saying about

1322
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 3: Joah they said about but you're going with Joah.

1323
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I believe.

1324
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 1: I believe in I believe in Job's I believe in

1325
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 1: Joah's ability in a big because I've seen him do

1326
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 1: it against big time of teams in the playoff tell

1327
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 1: you what to the second round.

1328
01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 2: Before a couple of years ago, Paul's even been in

1329
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:01,439
Speaker 2: the playing son.

1330
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying.

1331
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 2: Joah has put it on film is what I'm saying.

1332
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 3: Bro, you put LaMelo over in Miami, or you put

1333
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 3: Lamello over there, just a culture to where he can thrive.

1334
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 5: And just like he could be coached.

1335
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 1: You know, he was available to san Antonio. They're a

1336
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 1: culture team, and san Antonio did the knowledge and was like,

1337
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 1: I'm good.

1338
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 3: But they need they require a certain type of player

1339
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 3: with a certain type of attitude.

1340
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 5: You know, they don't like the flashy, well dressed and

1341
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 5: change guys. You were changed. You can't play for so.

1342
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, hold on the most look they say,

1343
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 1: they said, they said, has Jah lost his pop?

1344
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:55,479
Speaker 2: When is the last time he put his chin.

1345
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 1: Above the rim?

1346
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 4: I mean that's not easy to do.

1347
01:07:57,920 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 5: But he said he was not happy either.

1348
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 1: Either you're declining at a rapidly fast rate or you've

1349
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 1: quit on this coach, which again the worst season of

1350
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 1: your life at twenty six.

1351
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 2: That don't make no sense, Paul. At twenty six, you

1352
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 2: were unstoppable.

1353
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:16,719
Speaker 5: Bro, he's not happy. They're not happy.

1354
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I could do wonder when you get

1355
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 3: happy and you're getting an environment that changes everything.

1356
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 5: I'm looking at Ingram looking.

1357
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:27,640
Speaker 3: Like an all star again, Like Ingram, like he was

1358
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 3: looking at him in New Orders like it's over.

1359
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 4: I have never looked at Ingram like. Look.

1360
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 5: He went from an all star and he started regressing.

1361
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 4: He never quit, though he never will.

1362
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 5: All the time wasn't happy.

1363
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:44,679
Speaker 1: He does seem rejuvenated in Toronto. The change of scenery,

1364
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 1: his word.

1365
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 4: They all have words, they all have wards. But I

1366
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 4: don't think you can win anything.

1367
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:52,600
Speaker 1: That's that's my opinion as well. I don't know is

1368
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 1: one in high school he won like he needs he

1369
01:08:57,000 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 1: wanted Chino Hills, bro yea, so he knows he was

1370
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 1: in the I.

1371
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:04,720
Speaker 2: E understand, Bro.

1372
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:07,600
Speaker 5: He needs to be in that environment.

1373
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 4: Trey, he just doesn't play any defense. That's not too bad,

1374
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 4: I think.

1375
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 1: I think that's and when GM said I wouldn't want

1376
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 1: any of them, damn, So I will say this too.

1377
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 2: This is the only thing I'll say about that.

1378
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:27,759
Speaker 1: LaMelo and Indiana right now, them, Bro, they're too serious

1379
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 1: about team ball. They're too serious like the defensive concepts

1380
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 1: that these guys were running last year in the playoffs.

1381
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 2: You think LaMelo ball could be consistently doing that.

1382
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:39,599
Speaker 1: He's capable offensively, He's.

1383
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 4: To do that. He's not environment he can be men

1384
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 4: possibly well only might find out for him.

1385
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 1: I do. I do want to say this about this

1386
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 1: anonymous GM and they're trashing these guys. I think it's

1387
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 1: a little disingenuous just because by trashing these guys on ESPN,

1388
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 1: you're driving their value down. So like even if you

1389
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 1: wanted to trade for him, it being your interest to

1390
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 1: trash him in the press and to get value to

1391
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 1: create a perception that he's garbage so that you could

1392
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 1: give less to get the guy. That's the one thing

1393
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 1: I'll say, Like the cynic in me is like these gms,

1394
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:15,839
Speaker 1: they might just be talking ship.

1395
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 4: And I don't think they knew this was gonna come out.

1396
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 4: They're talking to Bobby Marks and te Man like they

1397
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 4: put it out. They didn't think Bobby and took they

1398
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:21,959
Speaker 4: just put him out anonymous.

1399
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:22,560
Speaker 8: No.

1400
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 1: I think Bobby and Tim told him, like we want

1401
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 1: to get people on the record, we're willing to do

1402
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 1: it anonymously. I don't think it's like they're having private

1403
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 1: convos and.

1404
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 4: It's like I think they just trusted them in the conversation.

1405
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 4: They just said, yo ya, we're gonna put this out.

1406
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 4: But now so they said all right, whatever.

1407
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 2: But I just think they do you think these are

1408
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 2: people saying how they genuinely feel.

1409
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they's hog conversations with these people, and

1410
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 4: they trusted those They trusted Bobby and Tim, which because

1411
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 4: they're trusted guys to not put their name out there.

1412
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 4: And then they said, all right, cool, as long as

1413
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 4: my name is not in it, Yeah, use it how

1414
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:53,560
Speaker 4: you want to use it, as long as I'm not.

1415
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 5: I think ultimately LaMelo is gonna be a better player

1416
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 5: than them three.

1417
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 2: You're crazy, You're crazy. He's definitely. I think physically he's.

1418
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:10,959
Speaker 4: Probably a big fan of trade. You think Melow's gonna.

1419
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:14,559
Speaker 5: I just think it's hard, harder to win because.

1420
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:17,479
Speaker 4: He's small, was always hurt too though, always got injuries.

1421
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 3: I'm seeing Atlanta right now without Trey Man, they're taking off,

1422
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 3: taking off.

1423
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 1: What do you think happened in Charlotte without the melon?

1424
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 5: They're not gonna take off? Definite.

1425
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 1: They're just a sleeping giant, right. It's the mellow holding

1426
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 1: him back.

1427
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 2: Let's uh, let's get to our last joint, Chris.

1428
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 1: Uh, what do we close?

1429
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 2: Are we closing with?

1430
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 1: Okay, let's let's this is a topic, all right, man,

1431
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 1: Let's close with a foul and no foul with the

1432
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,720
Speaker 1: late great Ben Simmons, who was no.

1433
01:11:58,439 --> 01:11:58,679
Speaker 5: Late.

1434
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 1: He's no longer. He's not in the league.

1435
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 5: That's crazy.

1436
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 1: He's gone.

1437
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 2: He's gone, but not forgotten.

1438
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons currently not on an NBA roster. Bro It

1439
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 1: was unceremonious is passing. It was a you know, they

1440
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 1: dug a shallow grave for him. Ben Simmons currently not

1441
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:30,680
Speaker 1: on a roster. It's been a rough couple of years, obviously,

1442
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:34,599
Speaker 1: like he's been a punching bag online with fans media.

1443
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 1: I don't think media has been that rough on him,

1444
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 1: to be honest, but I think people are kind of

1445
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 1: politically correct because they feel bad for the guy. But anyway,

1446
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 1: He recently responded to a fan online who asked asked

1447
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 1: him if the Sisters asked you back to play Center

1448
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,520
Speaker 1: Slash Power Forward, would you come back on a minimum contract?

1449
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:55,720
Speaker 1: And Simmons responded, it ain't about the money. I'd hoop

1450
01:12:55,800 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 1: for free. ID hoop there for free. It's deep than

1451
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:02,680
Speaker 1: what they make y'all believe, which is why I keep

1452
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 1: it pushing. Right now, I'm focused on getting the body

1453
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 1: to one before putting my health on the line again

1454
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 1: like I have been for the past few years.

1455
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:14,799
Speaker 4: He played with the Clippers.

1456
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,719
Speaker 1: Last year he still says full off season.

1457
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 4: I just think he's what he's saying is like he's

1458
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 4: not back.

1459
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 1: He's been playing hurt, he's saying.

1460
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 4: And his body's not back to one hundred percent of

1461
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 4: what it was before. Like he's always had back issues. Yeah,

1462
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 4: you know it's not one under.

1463
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 1: What do you like? What do you think about his

1464
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 1: response there?

1465
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 8: Like?

1466
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 1: What like?

1467
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:39,679
Speaker 4: What is that? I mean, it's a politically correct response.

1468
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 4: He's supposed to Again, we saw that there was an

1469
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 4: offer from the next He's saying it's deeper than what

1470
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 4: we believe, So maybe that was an offer. But the

1471
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 4: rumors were that he turned down the Knicks offer for

1472
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:51,679
Speaker 4: I guess the training camp deal or the beginning of season,

1473
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 4: because he what was it that he didn't want to

1474
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:57,639
Speaker 4: accept the minimum. I thought it was first of all,

1475
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 4: like and his agent let him go or agent like

1476
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:01,559
Speaker 4: left him.

1477
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 1: I was off of Ben Simmons before the Atlanta Yeah, bro,

1478
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:07,599
Speaker 1: he got dropped by clubs.

1479
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 4: They had a contract on the table for him. I

1480
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 4: guess maybe a training camp or whatever with the Knicks,

1481
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 4: and I think he turned it down. And I guess

1482
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 4: that's when his agent didn't he did. I think he

1483
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:19,720
Speaker 4: wanted to play for a minimum, but he's making it

1484
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 4: seem like it's deeper than that. He said he played

1485
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 4: for free because they asked about a minimum and before

1486
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 4: the word was he didn't want to play for a minimum,

1487
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 4: he thought he was worth more than a minimum.

1488
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:30,599
Speaker 1: You guys, you played against Ben Simmons to right?

1489
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 2: Was that his rookie year eighteen?

1490
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 1: No, I didn't play against Okay, obviously you played against

1491
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 1: him with this is not to be crazy. Has he

1492
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 1: ever struck you as a guy who would play for free?

1493
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 5: Damn?

1494
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:49,680
Speaker 4: Like that was the case, he would have took the job.

1495
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's again like a guy who

1496
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 1: is just so insane, Like again, you know, if.

1497
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 4: That's the case, he'd be playing Australia right now back home,

1498
01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:00,719
Speaker 4: or he'd be doing something playing somewhere.

1499
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 1: Bro when the Australian national team put it out there

1500
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 1: like yo, we don't want this dude to be a

1501
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 1: part of what we're doing. Yes, yes, they was like, Yo,

1502
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 1: this guy acts like he's too cool for school. He's

1503
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 1: to this like Patty Mills.

1504
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 2: And it was like, yo, funk on, Bro.

1505
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 4: Is a little bit shaky. You know how they do

1506
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 4: things too, because they also they didn't want they cut

1507
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 4: Matisse at one point too, Like that was kind of

1508
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 4: weird to me. But yeah, they operate very different over there.

1509
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 1: They told Ben Simmons don't come back.

1510
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 4: He'll be playing in Australia right now, or like maybe

1511
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 4: he'd be playing somewhere.

1512
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:39,839
Speaker 2: China, somewhere.

1513
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 1: I would say that foul on Ben Simmons pretending to

1514
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:53,600
Speaker 1: be dedicated to the game, Like this is nuts to me,

1515
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 1: Like your track record doesn't doesn't like bro. Since Benson

1516
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 1: is second year in the NBA, can you name one

1517
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:05,760
Speaker 1: thing he's improved that Like his second year when he

1518
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:06,759
Speaker 1: was like, oh ship.

1519
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 5: Like this dude is seeing on Instagram making threes.

1520
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 7: That was in the off season against I thought he

1521
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:16,639
Speaker 7: was working on it. Never did it in the game.

1522
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:20,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know you got I'm gonna say no foul.

1523
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 3: I mean shout out to Ben Simons trying to get

1524
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:24,599
Speaker 3: back in the league. You know a lot of things

1525
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:27,680
Speaker 3: been saying we love a good bounce back story in Hollywood.

1526
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:31,720
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Look, they can dig your

1527
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,400
Speaker 3: grave and you could be like kill Bill and dig

1528
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 3: your way out. Let's go Ben get motivated somehow, man,

1529
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 3: because you got the talent.

1530
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 5: I thought.

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Speaker 3: At one point, next Lebron, a lot of people were

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Speaker 3: saying that if you can find your way just mentally

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Speaker 3: to get back in it, man, I would love to

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Speaker 3: see you back in the league.

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Speaker 1: Foul okay, I love that former teammate. By the way,

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