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Speaker 1: All right, hi everyone, and welcome to the Renee Stubs

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Speaker 1: Tennis podcast.

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Speaker 2: Listen here.

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Speaker 1: I am so excited because we are actually in a

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Speaker 1: studio for the first time together in a long time.

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Speaker 2: Do you think people can pay the difference? Hold on?

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Speaker 2: Can you hear that?

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Speaker 1: I am joined by of course, Caitlin Thompson and drum

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Speaker 1: roll please, Andrea Pekovich.

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Speaker 2: It is the three of us.

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Speaker 1: When was the last time the three of us were

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Speaker 1: together doing a podcast that sounded this good?

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Speaker 3: So I remember it was the podcast I said hoof

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Speaker 3: instead of because I remember you two laughing at me.

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Speaker 3: It was around November or but like two or three

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Speaker 3: years ago.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well maybe even before. It was before the pandemic.

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Speaker 1: My god, we have done Petco and I have done

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Speaker 1: a podcast in her closet in the in her I

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Speaker 1: heard you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we were ready to host you on Saturday. On Sunday,

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Speaker 3: sorry tomorrow, I'm playing the pro am at McEnroe's, which

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Speaker 3: Renee bounced on.

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Speaker 1: I actually technically did not bounce on. I was not asked.

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Speaker 1: Oh so Patrick and John fuck off?

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Speaker 2: Love you get right out there is that part of

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Speaker 2: the day.

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Speaker 4: No, So this time they will have a Jitney are

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Speaker 4: you taking the jitney.

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Speaker 2: No, the river plan.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, you're not.

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Speaker 1: Calm down. I took it last year. I took a

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Speaker 1: seaplane there and I took that shopper back with pet.

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Speaker 4: I often think to myself, who in God's name would

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Speaker 4: get into one of those seaplanes I did?

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Speaker 2: Is it really dangerous?

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Speaker 1: It's really fun. It's actually pretty fun. You go, you

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Speaker 1: literally take off on the Hudson.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, exactly on the East River, on the East River,

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Speaker 2: on the East River.

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Speaker 1: I have to be so you bounce and your bounce

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Speaker 1: and your bounce, your bounce, your bounce, you bounce you

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Speaker 1: does that sound? Yeah, it's kind of cool. No, it's fine,

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Speaker 1: You're gonna be fine.

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Speaker 4: I also thought we were gonna follow this guy that

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Speaker 4: one time we were in a helicopter together.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well you thought you didn't.

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Speaker 1: Hey, we'll get to this. We've got a lot to

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Speaker 1: talk about. We of course, the US Open draw has

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Speaker 1: come out, came out yesterday, you know, and it's the

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Speaker 1: most stressful. I want you to take us through. I

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Speaker 1: know what it feels like, but take us through that

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Speaker 1: moment Peco when you're like, what's the draw? Do you were?

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Speaker 1: You the type of person that needed to know right away.

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Speaker 3: So I always tell everyone to go try and go

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Speaker 3: watch qualifying on the day the draws made, because you

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Speaker 3: will get the most emotional outbursts of all. First of all,

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Speaker 3: great emotional outbursts positively mostly, although yesterday I saw both

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Speaker 3: that's but that. I was always most nervous under day

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Speaker 3: after Joe. Definitely, it's always stressful.

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Speaker 1: Some people like Serena Williams, I can tell you right now.

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Speaker 1: I told her her drole when the drawer came out

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Speaker 1: at Wimbledon, So it comes out you always, usually on Thursday,

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Speaker 1: and I said, oh, you play so and so okay,

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Speaker 1: thanks for telling me. And then when she won her

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Speaker 1: first round, she came up to me later on she goes, hey,

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Speaker 1: by the way, don't ever tell me who I play

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Speaker 1: in the first round that early again, because she hated

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Speaker 1: knowing who she wanted to play, because some players don't

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Speaker 1: like to know too far in events because they feel

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Speaker 1: like they ruminate over that the opponent.

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Speaker 2: They think about it too much. Especially with Serena.

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Speaker 4: It's about her game, not really anybody else's exactly, so

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Speaker 4: I think you can't be thinking about anybody but herself.

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Speaker 1: Serena's like, Okay, it doesn't matter who I play. If

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Speaker 2: You'd probably like to know was she playing Harmony? About

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Speaker 2: that time she was like, she like, comes out of

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Speaker 1: She probably did think she heard Harmony ten and went, yeah,

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Speaker 2: So that didn't go so do you like? I always

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Speaker 3: I didn't know every single round, but I always knew

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Speaker 3: players just wanted to know the next round. I knowed,

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Speaker 3: I knowed you terrible, But that's Bob Dylan's grandma for

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Speaker 3: you right there. I would always know the seeded players

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Speaker 3: and the good players in my section, but not necessarily

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Speaker 3: who I'm playing, second, third, fourth round, if it at

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Speaker 3: all came well.

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to know anyone about who I was

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Speaker 1: playing in the next round. That's it because because the.

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Speaker 3: Problem I think most players are are more like me. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think most players want to know the next round

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Speaker 3: but nothing.

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Speaker 1: But the reason I didn't want to know is because

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Speaker 1: didn't want to stress about the possibility of playing somebody

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Speaker 1: it right, So they go. Anyway, let's get to the draw.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the draw.

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Speaker 4: I have like five picks already that I'm so excited

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Speaker 4: about because there's nothing to me that is more fun,

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Speaker 4: probably just even including the last day of qualities, which

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Speaker 4: I love going to the first day of any tournament,

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Speaker 4: goal is to see as many people and then try

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Speaker 4: to settle on like one or two major battles now.

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Speaker 2: On the first day.

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Speaker 4: So this already seems like there's a couple that I'm

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Speaker 3: And bouncing off that have a grounds pass on the

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Speaker 3: Maybe there will be one good match if they don't

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Speaker 3: know it will mostly eighty nine percent livelihood.

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Speaker 1: Is the people on Arthur Ash and Armstrong are playing

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Speaker 1: You have a ground spass, so you can get in

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Speaker 2: Do you want to get into the cinner thing now.

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Speaker 1: Before the draw?

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Speaker 2: We can if you want to all right, Well, let's.

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Speaker 1: Get into the sinner thing, because he is the number

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Speaker 1: one seed in the men's and we were going to

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Speaker 4: Should we ask Andrea who is I feel like I

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Speaker 4: introduced Faster last week as the bad boy of Substack.

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Speaker 2: Yeah really, And I don't know if you want.

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Speaker 4: To be called anything of substack yet, but under a

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Speaker 4: Pactovich of Substack of subsac Fame had a really thoughtful

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Speaker 4: rumination on the nature of objectivity today, which I thought,

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Speaker 2: Okay, so set the table.

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Speaker 3: So the reason I came up I'm reading the John

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Speaker 3: Diddyon biography right now, which is a lot about new journalism.

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Speaker 3: We talked about it just briefly, and how in the

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Speaker 3: that already is a judgment, you know, because I like Janick.

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Speaker 3: Everyone knows I like him, and I already showed sympathy

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Speaker 3: that's what. So when I started the piece like this,

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Speaker 3: I tried. When I edited it, I was like, should

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Speaker 3: this actually can be interesting.

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Speaker 2: It's the best part for me, really interesting.

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Speaker 3: And so I thought this could be really interesting if

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Speaker 3: I just make clear that I'm not objective, no matter

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Speaker 3: how objective I tried to be before. I then presented

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Speaker 3: that on my on my substack Andrepatkovic off substack.

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Speaker 1: So you're not going to tell us you're going to

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Speaker 1: make us go to substack. No, no, no, I can

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Speaker 1: I can give me if you give me a synopsis

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Speaker 3: So the synopsis, as I've I read millions of sources,

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Speaker 3: I went into a deep dive of people who have

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Speaker 3: prosecuted doping cases. I've read the rules, not all of

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Speaker 2: To the case.

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Speaker 3: And so what has happened basically was Janick Syna got

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Speaker 3: tested positive with this substance that is an annabolsterosteroid.

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Speaker 2: Which can be used and is used in Italy.

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Speaker 3: And ointments and creams to help and sprace and sprays

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Speaker 3: But if you use it differently, it can also be

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Speaker 3: used to produce muscle growth. Right, So this is why

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Speaker 3: he was tested positive. And so I think the crux

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Speaker 2: And the reason for that is that the moment he

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Speaker 2: knew he was.

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Speaker 3: Tested positive, on the same day, his lawyers appealed on

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Speaker 3: his behalf. And so the rule is if you appeal

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Speaker 3: in place, the provisional suspension will not be in effect.

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Speaker 3: So basically that's why he was able to continue playing.

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Speaker 4: So it was an immediate intervention that resulted in a

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Speaker 4: non event in his life exactly for now, for that moment.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So that was the one controversy, right, Why were

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Speaker 2: And Yannick Sinner was? And that was lawyers answers.

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Speaker 3: I read somewhere like there were different sources. That's why

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and however, that's what I wrote, and I want

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: If this or any other player, Like what are you doing? Yeah, like,

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Speaker 1: No, but I'm looking forward to I'm working together at

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Speaker 2: So you were you would be in favor of what

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Speaker 4: I just the the way it was handled is my issue.

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Speaker 1: OK, let's not get into that.

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Speaker 2: The lawyer the lawyer.

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Speaker 3: How in tennis there is always and will be conflicts

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Speaker 4: Let's pivot into the drug center being amingly sensitive and

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Speaker 4: this thing is this this guy gonna be rat on

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00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:09,719
Speaker 4: by this whole thing.

443
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,440
Speaker 1: Well, he's gonna Oh yeah, I do some people don't

444
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,880
Speaker 1: think so I do. I mean, he's a sensitive guy

445
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 1: and I think that it. I can tell you this.

446
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, he's not like a great friend, but

447
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 1: I've become friends with him, certainly through Darren Cahill. We

448
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,880
Speaker 1: see him all the time at the tennis courts when when.

449
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,399
Speaker 2: We're there, don't put me into this, okay, So this

450
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 2: is the opposete of objective Drew.

451
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:31,440
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no.

452
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Speaker 1: What I'm saying is, over the last few months, I

453
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,239
Speaker 1: have noticed a darkness around him. I have noticed him

454
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,920
Speaker 1: not be as friendly, not be as his normal self.

455
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 1: And I was always thinking, is this is this getting

456
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 1: like is him winning a Grand Slam and getting to

457
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 1: number one getting to his head? Is he becoming a

458
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 1: bit cocky and a little bit aloof to me? Like

459
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 1: it was weird because he was always this upbeat, like

460
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 1: really pleasant, but he wasn't like that over the last

461
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 1: few months, and I was always like, oh, is it me?

462
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 3: You know?

463
00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 1: I mean I started to think I was starting to

464
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 1: this was looming over it, And now looking back, it

465
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,680
Speaker 1: all makes sense. Can you imagine Pecko? I mean, honestly,

466
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 1: for four months of how long has it been for

467
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 1: almost four months since March. Having that over your head.

468
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god, no, wonder he's been playing like shit.

469
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, like maybe it will be liberty, liberty liberating.

470
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 1: Well it was because he found out on Wednesday of

471
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 1: last week and then he wins Cincinnati.

472
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Speaker 2: So but he was, you know, he looked a little

473
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Speaker 2: down on the cord. He wasn't himself. He was getting kissy.

474
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,879
Speaker 2: He kicked the wall, he did the most gentle kiss

475
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 2: of the like all the stuff.

476
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 1: Though, just if you look back on his matches, he

477
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 1: did not look himself. He certainly didn't look anything like

478
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Speaker 1: he did at the beginning of the year. So there's

479
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 1: no question it wasn't weighing on him. Now will that

480
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 1: now be off of his shoulders? Now he has to

481
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,879
Speaker 1: worry about his what's everyone and think about me? I

482
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,680
Speaker 1: don't know, it's going to be hard anyway. He plays

483
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Speaker 1: an American and Mackie mcdone.

484
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Speaker 3: Well, he is from Zutiro, and I don't think he

485
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 3: cares about what people think about that.

486
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 4: And they are like solutionist sort of independent.

487
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mountain people.

488
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 3: They don't care about the Italians, they don't care about

489
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 3: the Germans. Everyone wants to clean them and they are

490
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,880
Speaker 3: basically like, no, we don't care.

491
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 1: About in his fourth round is Tommy Paul. So look,

492
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 1: we're guessing. We're not guaranteeing that they're all going to

493
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 1: be there, but we have to make some sort of guesses.

494
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 1: And Tommy Poul really should be the one that gets

495
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Speaker 1: through through to play him in the fourth round. So

496
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Speaker 1: do you think that Tommy will see opportunity? Yeah, in

497
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 1: that section the attractive man in tennis is and that's

498
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Speaker 1: actually what you think. Feast beats Tommy Pole in the

499
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: US in looks over five. Okay, so that's a no.

500
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 2: Probably not.

501
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Speaker 4: Tommy Paul is having a very good summer and I

502
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 4: think he looks great and I think he likes playing

503
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 4: at the US Open. Yeah. I think Tommy Pole probably

504
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,360
Speaker 4: plays center if all goes to plan.

505
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, can I just throw in spiserree?

506
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 2: How do you say his name?

507
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 1: I should know he heard it. Three hours he got

508
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: through qualifying. Amazing matches yesterday against Von Saka, who we're

509
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 1: going to see for a long time, that young guy

510
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 1: from Brazil. That was the most fun match and that

511
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 1: was the epitome of qualifying.

512
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was awesome.

513
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 1: And that guy who's from Connecticut got through, and he

514
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 1: plays against Alex Michelson, another American, and so whoever wins

515
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 1: that match will likely play Yanick Sinner. So Yannick's just

516
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: surrounded by Americans, so that's not going to help him

517
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 1: with the crowd. Depending. I think he'll be fine. But

518
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 1: what do you think about that? Do you think Tommy

519
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 1: can get a win over Yannick if they get through.

520
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

521
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 3: I think Tommy Paul I really love his game. I

522
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 3: think he's one of the most complete athletes. Unless Janick

523
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Speaker 3: Sinner is really rattled by everything. I think he's just

524
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Speaker 3: the more aggressive player. And I think Tommy Paul doesn't

525
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 3: quite have the weapons to push.

526
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 2: He doesn't have enough tools.

527
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Speaker 1: Okay, So in that top half of the draw is

528
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Speaker 1: also Steph a sits a pass. He plays Cochonakis in

529
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Speaker 1: the first round. Let me tell you something that's not

530
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Speaker 1: going to be an easy first round. You know, Steph

531
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Speaker 1: has finally flicked his dad, which I've said for years

532
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: he needed to do if you wanted to win a

533
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Speaker 1: Grand Slam.

534
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 3: Yeah. But I went to see his practice. He was

535
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 3: practicing with his brother, and I think his fitness coach

536
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 3: was his coach because.

537
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: Oh my god. So you're telling me it's a disaster.

538
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 3: No, not a disaster. He knows what he's doing. But

539
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 3: I'm saying, bring up Postolos back.

540
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:20,439
Speaker 2: I'm just joking.

541
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Speaker 1: Get a real coach, Get a real coach.

542
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 2: It was just what I was saying.

543
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 3: I don't think he had a coach in place already.

544
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Speaker 3: I think he was just there basically with his brother

545
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 3: and his team.

546
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 2: But he didn't.

547
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 4: So this was not a long planned, strategic divorce. This

548
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 4: is just like I've had enough.

549
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 3: And granted this was on Wednesday, so maybe he has

550
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 3: somebody there now. But I went to his practice specifically

551
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 3: to see who is on.

552
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 4: What a good journalistic instinct or just think but.

553
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 1: Speaking of gossip, you think Paula but Dooza had anything

554
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Speaker 1: to do with flicking the dad.

555
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 2: I hope, so oh good?

556
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 4: I so.

557
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 3: Well.

558
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Speaker 1: F i A is in that section of the draw

559
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Speaker 1: to place it's a pass, he will be his first

560
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: real tough test. And if that, if he's all over

561
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: the shop. Felix is playing a little better. The Olympics

562
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: helped him. I think it made him a little bit

563
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Speaker 1: more confident. We remember what happened in Cincinnati with that

564
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: terrible call with the two names Jack Draper.

565
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 2: But do you okay, so you're calling the past to

566
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 2: get through that? I mean, I don't know.

567
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 4: I don't know what kind of shape tits passes and

568
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 4: in terms of his mental or sort of emotional well.

569
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Speaker 1: Can we talk about part of this draw with Medvedev

570
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: but a section of the draw as well.

571
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Speaker 4: Do not usually put any money behind faa as much

572
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Speaker 4: as I like him.

573
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Speaker 1: So if they get through Medvedev Sinner quarterfinal, I mean,

574
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Speaker 1: can you have a tougher draw? This happens every Grand Slam.

575
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Speaker 3: I feel like, yeah, Wimbledon, youick Sinner had the worst

576
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 3: draw I had ever seen anybody.

577
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean even medi.

578
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 3: Second round, the one place Bertini plays amazing. Yeah, I

579
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 3: don't know why it came up perfect.

580
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 2: On grass.

581
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 1: But do we think that Mehdi can get the win

582
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 1: if he has totally?

583
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 2: I think so totally he can mean he I will say.

584
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 3: So. I was calling Cincinnati and it was really concerning.

585
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 3: I was ready to call multiple psychologists, and I'm not

586
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 3: saying sports psychologists.

587
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 2: Everyone to this tournament.

588
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 3: I saw five emotional breakdowns a day, Nishioka, Medvedev, al Karaz.

589
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 2: It was all men also just saying it was all men.

590
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 2: I know everyone. The women are so hysterical. I saw

591
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 2: at least three.

592
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 3: Emotional meltdowns a day on the atp side, and granted

593
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 3: it's an Olympic year, they played a lot of tennis.

594
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 3: It was really windy, it was tough conditions, and then

595
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 3: it was flying. Balls were flying. Nobody would control the ball.

596
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 3: The tennis was awful. I understand it, but Medjedev had

597
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 3: a complete and not in a way that he was

598
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 3: throwing rackets, but he was on the change over yelling

599
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 3: at himself. He got a warning, and he looked as

600
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 3: if he woke up from a trance to the chair

601
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 3: umpire and was like, why are.

602
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 2: You giving me warning? I'm talking to myself, And he

603
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 2: really was.

604
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 3: You know, he can get bitchy about everything, but he

605
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 3: was really yelling at full lung capacity at him himself.

606
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: And he's like, dude, you're giving me a warning. Giving

607
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: myself a warning.

608
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 2: It was like almost rube lev Esque. Really, that's the

609
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 2: amount of.

610
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 3: Like just emotional and psychotic psychotic strain that he that

611
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 3: so much. It felt like he had so much pressure

612
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 3: on him. Well, I can tell you it's the only

613
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 3: thing I would put out there.

614
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 2: That made me worried for him. But I do think

615
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 2: that he can beat Center.

616
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 3: I think he really has the game to bother Center

617
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 3: every time they play, especially on the hardcourt.

618
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: I saw his coach, Jill's in a play a restaurant

619
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: or whatever a couple of days ago, and I said, oh,

620
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: you know, how's how's he feeling? Abouh blah blah. He's

621
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: such a nice guy. And he said, you know, the

622
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: thing about about Daniel is that he comes to play,

623
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: you know, on the big tournament. So he'll be fine

624
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: at the US Open. But if he is fine, I

625
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: just want him.

626
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 2: I just want them all to be okay.

627
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: Now, of course, in the bottom section of the top half.

628
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 2: I've drawn gentle and age. It's surprising, it's so it's

629
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 2: actually surprising, I feel, I don't know.

630
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: Again, can you can we concentrate here? Alcoraz, of course,

631
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: is also in the top half of the drawer. I mean,

632
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: what the actual f Alcoraz Medvedev's in the top half

633
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: of the drawer. Again, what they can't avoid each other,

634
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: those two guys. But Alcoraz looks pretty good. He plays

635
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: an Aussie in the first round. All the qualifiers got

636
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: the worst drawers. There was every qualify. I felt like

637
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: was playing a top seed. You know, Jack Draper's in that.

638
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 2: Section, easy seb quarter he got lead to. That was

639
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 2: my favorite match yesterday.

640
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: Yes, I know, he came back from match point down.

641
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 2: I was there.

642
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 3: I watched it because if at least the Jerman girl

643
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 3: was playing after that. It was on quart six, So

644
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 3: I was there and I watched the entire A third said.

645
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: And did you cry? I was crying. There was a

646
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 2: lot of somebody.

647
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 3: I like that.

648
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 2: You admitted to crying. I cry when it's the tramp

649
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 2: for the human spirit. It was so good.

650
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: He was so brave.

651
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 2: It wasn't only that he won and the other guy choked. No,

652
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 2: he was so brave.

653
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 3: He played so committed and aggressively the last few games.

654
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 3: I was so proud of him, even though I didn't

655
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 3: know him, and I was like Ozzie.

656
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: As Oh, let me tell you something. He's gonna He's

657
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: for that fight, he's getting He's getting Alcarez on arthur

658
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: Ashe stadium, so what but hey.

659
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 2: But what one hundred thousand dollars one handed backhand?

660
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 4: I know, well, I love him now. Also Carlitos is

661
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 4: in the middle of having evacuated his own spirit since

662
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 4: the Olympics. So what's I'm just saying. I don't is

663
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 4: this guy gonna beat him? No, but Carlitos, this might

664
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,719
Speaker 4: not be a shoe in this whole uh sexual draw. Oh,

665
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 4: he has the Draper in the third es Draper in

666
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 4: the third round.

667
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 2: If again, Draper will played really well and then cramp

668
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 2: in the fourth set. Triple Z has to play him

669
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 2: though in the first round, So I'm going triple Z.

670
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 2: He's got a silver metal now.

671
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: Might have an upset in that first round with Jack Draper,

672
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: but we'll see. But in that also section of the draw,

673
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: sep quarter, he's made an amazing turn around in the

674
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: last twelve months coming back in that section, and Alex

675
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: Demonor is down there. We don't quite know physically how

676
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: he's doing after Wimbledon. This is the first tournament he's

677
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: going to be playing.

678
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 2: So it's look great. But my secret favorite player finished guy. Yeah,

679
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 2: he's really cool.

680
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: You think he's going to get through that section because

681
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: that's Alex Dimenos.

682
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 2: Probably not, but I really like him and I hope

683
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 2: the best for him.

684
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: All Right, Well, actually, the surprise packet in that section really,

685
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: because there are some great players in that section but

686
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: have been injured, like Demonor and her Cutch down the bottom,

687
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: and I think that good old Karen Hutch enough might

688
00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: come through that section.

689
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 3: Jordan Thompson, he was playing, he played amazing and then

690
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 3: he strangely lost one and one to Zverev in Toronto

691
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 3: in Montreal.

692
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: Well, listen, if Jordan wins his first round, he will

693
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: play her couch if her Touch wins, and so he

694
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: has a real chance in that matches because physically, how

695
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: is Herbie Horby going after having the knee surgery. But

696
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: he's great to see him back, by the way. But

697
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: listen to the bottom half of the draw. There's no

698
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: doubt that al KaAZ with you know seb Quarter, these

699
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: types of players, it's not a bad draw down the

700
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: bottom there.

701
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 2: But first round, man, that is yeah, that's gonna be fun.

702
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 2: I will be at that match. Yes, you should. Anybody

703
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 2: should be at that match because you know how you

704
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 2: feel in the first round. You don't know where you

705
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 2: stand at. Yeah, and then you.

706
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 3: Play Muti, who's like, yeah, it's slicing and dacing, it's.

707
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 2: Chaos out there. But they could be you know what,

708
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 2: He's going to take you to the deep water.

709
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: That court will be on grandstand or seventeenth for sure.

710
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 2: So get out there and Keaitland will be on that court. Okay.

711
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: The bottom half of the draw, which will be played

712
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: on Monday, is headed up by Kaspar Rud who's been

713
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: playing more golf than tennis over the last couple of months.

714
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: He has not been playing well at all. And he

715
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: plays against I believe another qualifier in Boo, the Chinese

716
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: guy who got through an amazing match yesterday. He beat

717
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: He beat Karatsev. Karatse won the first set and then yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

718
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: don't worry.

719
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 2: I'll keep you up to date.

720
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: But in the second part of that, if Casper Wendsy's

721
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: first round he plays the winner of Malfie and Schwartzman, clap,

722
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: can we just.

723
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 2: Give a clap?

724
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: Day getting through qualities in his last ever tournament at

725
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: the US while his last year, and he was so

726
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: happy when he won. He said he got so nervous

727
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: in the last game to close it out, but he

728
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: came in. He missed such an easy volley to give

729
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: himself two match points at five three in the second set.

730
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: Against serv and then he just duffed this forehand and

731
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: then on match point in the next game, after he

732
00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: kind of choked the first match point, he came in

733
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: and the best fourhand volley ever.

734
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 2: And his reaction to his coach's box was like, how

735
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 2: about that volley?

736
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: And then he and then he gested the one he missed,

737
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: and I was like, when you think tennis players aren't

738
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: thinking about the fuck up from the game before, he

739
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: was still thinking about after he won. So it's nice

740
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: to see that. So diego against Gael Montfees. That will

741
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 1: be on court like seven. That'll be a great court

742
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:20,959
Speaker 1: seventeen match.

743
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 3: I like that.

744
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 1: We're doing the schedule for the USTA.

745
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 2: But anyway, whoever wins that plays against Casper Route.

746
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: I hey, whoever wins between mont Fees and Schwartzman has

747
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 1: really great through the third round, and up there is Bubleck,

748
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 1: who is like a box of chocolates.

749
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 2: You never bloody know what he's going to do. Montreal,

750
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 2: he was not playing well. He looks out of sorts. Yeah,

751
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: and I'll tell you he's looking good at that.

752
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: And ut there if they play well, is Taylor Fritz.

753
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 4: I actually think Taylor Fritz is my sleeper to win

754
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 4: the whole thing, I think, oh wow, to win the

755
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 4: whole thing, I am calling. I think Taylor Fritz has

756
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 4: it and I'm doing I think he's in forum.

757
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: I think he's well, he's in the right half.

758
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 2: He's in the right how let's put it that way.

759
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 2: I think he'll go very far.

760
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 3: He will play the best tennesse he's ever played, and

761
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 3: then lose and really really tied three.

762
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 2: Sets to work.

763
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you something.

764
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 2: At least dreams.

765
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: At least he didn't play a lead up tournament coming

766
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: in here like he did last year.

767
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 3: You know, he talked about how he didn't play a

768
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 3: lead up. He played seventeen lead ups to the US

769
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 3: Open and then was cooked.

770
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: Well, he played the Olympics, so it was for him

771
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: to have a little bit of time off. But up

772
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: there is also Holgaruna and Mussetti. Of course Merseti's had

773
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: an incredible couple of months he has.

774
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 2: But he doesn't play well on hardcore. No, why is that?

775
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 3: If you can play on grass, how can you not

776
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 3: play on hard courts? Grass is so much harder, is Shweisnick?

777
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 3: That's a mystery to me.

778
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: Plays against and I want to be we want to

779
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: give a shout out to the friend of the pod

780
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: and just an all around great guy and Riley.

781
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he plays Mussetti, so that that's actually going

782
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 2: to be a pretty interesting you calling.

783
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: Are you calling an upset there? Maybe with Riley and Mussetti.

784
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

785
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 4: I don't think Messati plays well on hardcourts enough remotely

786
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 4: to get over the Opelka serve, which is.

787
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 3: Definitely tough, all right, and up there is Verev. He's

788
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 3: probably the hottest player up that section of the drawer.

789
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 2: To be honest. So it's a really tough first round though.

790
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, that's not gonna be easy. But

791
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: I think he wins. He's playing too well.

792
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 3: No, he's playing really well. I think he's playing I

793
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 3: think he's playing the best tennis of his life. Really,

794
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 3: is the only thing that is with him. Usually used

795
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 3: to be the case. He was like a diesel motor.

796
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 3: He needed a bit of a start into a major tournament.

797
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 2: Now he's good. Now he's much better. But that's the

798
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,240
Speaker 2: only thing I will say that's a tough.

799
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 1: First likelihood is I mean, Runa certainly can surprise and

800
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: get through, but you would think that it would probably

801
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: look like a Taylor, Fritz and Zverev quarterfinal up that

802
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 1: section of the draw down the bottom.

803
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 3: I will give one thought for Holga Runa. I was

804
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 3: really impressed in Cincinnati with him. He looked so much

805
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 3: more patient and as if he had a plan. Yeah,

806
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 3: he'd be very teen.

807
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 2: Patrick Moritaglo as a coach that well, he.

808
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 3: Lost the first set and he was the same runas

809
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 3: so wild and then in the second set and third

810
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 3: said that he won. He started playing like just solid

811
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 3: to the backhand, and when Mateo was hitting a slice,

812
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 3: he came to the net and put the volley in.

813
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 2: I was like, is that a tactical genius? He's back?

814
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 2: Am I grating you on a curve? Or have you

815
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 2: been so?

816
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 4: I love Una and I love his very silly short hold.

817
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 3: But he plays Nakashima first round. That is Russa, Worri,

818
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 3: Zverev and Nakashima Runa. I would go watch if I

819
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 3: was a fan, and if they are not scheduled on

820
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 3: because Vera will probably be okay.

821
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: Right, Well, I'm predicting Taylor Anzverev, but you can, guys

822
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: can have a little Runa in there.

823
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 2: I'm just saying they have challenging first rounds. But I

824
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 2: do think that you're right.

825
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: I can't talk about twelve hours.

826
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 2: I know we have to get to the women.

827
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: Also, okay, so Rublev is down the bottom, he's having

828
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: a mental crisis.

829
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 3: Yourela Hetchgat is in that section is playing really well again. Yeah,

830
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 3: but he's also capable of losing his But he just.

831
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 2: Final and made it very credible. He played really well.

832
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 3: Yes, both Montreal and Cincinnati played really really well.

833
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: He got smoked by Alex Poppram in the final.

834
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,399
Speaker 2: Okay, but he made it to the final and before

835
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: he was losing first second round.

836
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 4: Here's I'm going to reset the table here. Please, let's

837
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 4: talk about Benny Shells. Yeah, so Benny Shell's up against

838
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 4: Dominic team in.

839
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: The first round.

840
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 2: Shelton, I don't get the American nicknames.

841
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: Listen. Also, I just wanted to throw but I think

842
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: Australia Greek god Dimitrov is going to also be very

843
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: sneaky in that section of the drawer. And so down

844
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: the bottom half of the section with Novak is Ben Shelton,

845
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 1: Francis Tiafo who definitely team first round they played here

846
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: last year, Yes, and Tiafo is always also in that section.

847
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: Popren is the seed in Novak section, so likelihood seeds Novak, Popren,

848
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: Ben Shelton, Francis Tifos.

849
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 3: Part of the draw makes me honestly, honestly, I am

850
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 3: always honestly and always on the verge of not conspiracy theorists.

851
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 3: But I swear to god Novak has played all three Slams.

852
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 3: Not sorry not I think French Open, not but I

853
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 3: think Wimbledon, Ouschen Open. And now has Poppuerin in the

854
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 3: third round?

855
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 1: Is that true?

856
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 2: True? Right?

857
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 3: They played at the Open, paper was not a seat,

858
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 3: so they played second round. They played in Wimbledon second round,

859
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 3: didn't they And now they are playing again in the

860
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 3: third round.

861
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 1: I think he played in the third round of wimbled Anyway,

862
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. But the bottom line is Popperin's threat,

863
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 1: he has some confidence.

864
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 4: Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait, just quickly back

865
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 4: on that on what on the bottom half? What about

866
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 4: the question I was going to ask, because I've been

867
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 4: going to all these parties. Ben Shelton is at every party,

868
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 4: really every party. Everybody's decided Ben Shelton is it the man.

869
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 4: Ben Shelton is not making it out of that quart

870
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 4: of the draw much less. I mean, he will be

871
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 4: lucky to get to Djokovic. But does Djokovic have anybody

872
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 4: credible who can beat him in that bottom half? Not really,

873
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 4: not really, I don't think so either.

874
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: Can we look at it because this is and I

875
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: know because I'm trying to move on to the women,

876
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: because we can't talk about the men for five hours.

877
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 4: Okay, you're looking at me like I'm trying to you

878
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 4: have the computer keep going.

879
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: Okay, so listen, let's get to the women.

880
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 4: All right, Yes, Tailor Fritz, I'm calling it. Taylor Fritz

881
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 4: is going to win. Okay, there you go, right, I'm

882
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:22,919
Speaker 4: leaving in twenty two minutes.

883
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, see, there you go.

884
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 2: All right.

885
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: So eager shon Tech is up against a qualifier, no,

886
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: a lucky loser. Actually, well it's technical.

887
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 2: Well this is going to take just get to the

888
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 2: big name.

889
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, don't be abusive. In that section of

890
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: the draw is published in cover. Chances are she will

891
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: probably play through. But up in that section of the

892
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: draw it's pretty good for ego. I think the toughest

893
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: player that she will play if she gets through is

894
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: mirror on Dreva. What are our thoughts about that playing

895
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 1: in the That'll be the fourth round playing on Dreva.

896
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: If she gets through, sam Sonova's in there, and when

897
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: she's at her best, she can beat anyone.

898
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 3: But I think that I think that Ego will beat

899
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 3: Andreva and a bit more straightforward because she beat her

900
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 3: in Cincinnati and the court, I swear to God, lightning, lightning.

901
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 2: I've never seen a fast when you work.

902
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: On a hard court and it's glary, yeah, like it's reflecting.

903
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 3: It was like an ice rings. Yes, it was like

904
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 3: literally an ice hockey ring. It was crazy, and yeah,

905
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 3: they gotta work. I've never seen a faster court in

906
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 3: the last ten years I've played, and so I think

907
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 3: it will. And she beat her there, and I think

908
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 3: it will be easier here because the courts are not fast.

909
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 3: It's much better for even slower than they were last year.

910
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 3: They are still play on the faster side of hard courts,

911
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 3: but they are not as fast as they were last year,

912
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 3: and nowhere near fast as fast as Cincinnati, because there

913
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 3: was an absolute the tennis was horrible.

914
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was not. They're gonna have to work on that.

915
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: And I don't understand how the US Open and Cincinnati

916
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,760
Speaker 1: in particular, because those are so back to back different.

917
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: They've got to come on, guys, get it together. You've

918
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: got to have the same speed, bananas of court. It's

919
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: just stupid and not.

920
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 2: I don't understand it.

921
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: Anyway. We love Cincinnati's owners obviously, and the people that

922
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: run the tournament are amazing, So guys like, get the

923
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 1: same surface, please, so the players aren't having these just crazy,

924
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: crappy conditions.

925
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 3: I appreciate that trying things out, but I think if

926
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 3: you're the lead up, you know, I think that there

927
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 3: should be tournaments that have different because that's the one

928
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 3: thing that differentiates us the tennis from everything else that

929
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 3: every single week you have different conditions, different surfaces, different bars,

930
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 3: and the best tennis player, as Novak shows every single time,

931
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 3: is the one.

932
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: That that's the best.

933
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter, and that's great. I think that's a

934
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 3: really great skill. However, I agree with you, if you're

935
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 3: a lead up to the last major tournament of.

936
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: The year, you have to have the players have the

937
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: best preparation they can exactly. So it also up that

938
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: section of the drawer. Daniel Collins last year is Open.

939
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: She will play against Caroline Dahl hyde first round. That's

940
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: not going to be easy for Danielle. She's got will

941
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,720
Speaker 1: be going on out there. She has not played much tennis.

942
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 4: Are Injuring three six four Danielle three and four?

943
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: Okay, well she hasn't played enough tennis and she lost

944
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: easily in Monterey.

945
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 2: The best thing is she's probably a couple of eight weeks.

946
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 1: Ago, a couple of days ago against the younger Andreva sister,

947
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: I think, and then she.

948
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 2: Had fly here in an airplane filled with puke.

949
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: What follow her Instagram? It's really worth Oh my god. Okay, well,

950
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 1: let's not talk about that. But up there, I think

951
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 1: die Anna Schneider might be a bit of a tough

952
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: one for all these chicky babes to handle, because she

953
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: is she is just a fighter.

954
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 3: Such a great competitor. Oh, such a great competitor, really

955
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 3: great tennis player. Two.

956
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 2: Of course, the only thing with her is she's played

957
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 2: a lot of tennis.

958
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: Will she be Yeah, she's Russian man. They played come on,

959
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: you know they You look at the Russians at the

960
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: end of the year, they played like thirty tournaments like

961
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: they're insane.

962
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 2: But still, you know, you have to be fresh at

963
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 2: the US Open. Because it's a lot being in midtown.

964
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 3: I just walked for three minutes here and I'm already

965
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 3: mentally exhausted and will pull a.

966
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 2: Medvedev on myself later on. Just make sure you you know.

967
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 3: And there's when there's always a wagon where all the

968
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 3: seats are empty on the subway because there's one crazy person.

969
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 2: I will be the crazy that's going to be. It's

970
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,439
Speaker 2: going to be clearing out at every style. Great.

971
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: So up there, the one player that I think has

972
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: been playing so well over the last few weeks, you

973
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:18,760
Speaker 1: two knuckleheads, is Jessica.

974
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 2: I haven't seen she's been a lot time.

975
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 3: You should have given us ten minutes to get this

976
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 3: energy out before we start recording.

977
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 2: But we literally sat down and you went like, hello, welcome.

978
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 2: That was a great joke. That was an elite joke.

979
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 2: It was a New York Times because she got a wagon.

980
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 2: It was perfect.

981
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: My god, you're both insufferable. Sorry, let's keep going, as

982
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 1: you like to say, Pegola.

983
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 2: Jessica, she's had a great summer.

984
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: What a great watch, and eager gets through. That's a

985
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: quarterfinal now.

986
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 2: Please, for the love, jess please make it through. If

987
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 2: you make it to that quarter finals, she's in that match.

988
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

989
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 2: Well, you know, that's all I'm saying about it. That's

990
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 2: all I'm saying.

991
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: It's like, it's like the the opposite of the wall

992
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: that Trump tried to build. What do you mean, Well,

993
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 1: the wall's not there, and Pegola is trying to knock

994
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: down the wall, you were going to say, And I

995
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: was like, it's like Pagola's only had a wall in

996
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: front of her in the quarterfinals. I don't know where

997
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 1: that went.

998
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,720
Speaker 2: I try to understand, because she's never made it past qualifying.

999
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 2: I saw I bought that for her.

1000
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 3: So I worked with Mark Knowles, who was on her

1001
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 3: coaching team last week at Cincinnati, and markland yes, and

1002
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 3: so Mark Knowles and I worked together in the commentary

1003
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 3: box for the entire week. So I was there when

1004
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 3: she was playing. We were watching on his phone and

1005
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 3: his computer, and so I know what they are working on.

1006
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 3: I won't give much away, but I think the biggest

1007
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,479
Speaker 3: change for her was and it's been really impressive because

1008
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 3: before I saw Mark, I called her matches in Toronto,

1009
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 3: which she won, and I noticed it before I talked

1010
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 3: to him. She's much better from the defense, she's better

1011
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 3: in the defensive positions. She plays way more percentage tennis

1012
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 3: when she's on the defense. She moves better, she's quicker

1013
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 3: around the court. And I asked him, did you get

1014
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 3: a new fitness card and he said, no, we have

1015
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 3: the same one. But they have put fifty percent of

1016
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 3: their fitness practices onto the tennis court. Yeah.

1017
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm not trying to do that much in

1018
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 2: the gym.

1019
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 3: I mean, still the gym off courtchs and everything, but

1020
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 3: all the movement and agility parts they are now doing

1021
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 3: on the court with the record, and it's been you

1022
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 3: can see it in the several.

1023
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 4: Anka match, even though she lost, she was hanging in

1024
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 4: points and getting back to the neutral a lot more.

1025
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 4: And I didn't know what the difference was because usually

1026
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 4: Sevelenka can just overwhelm her so much, but she was hanging.

1027
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 4: I mean, it was still a little bit one sided,

1028
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 4: but it felt like a different for google.

1029
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 2: It felt closer, and I think that actually is why.

1030
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 4: I think that's why she had to defend almost every

1031
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 4: point from the second it started. And listen, and it

1032
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 4: wasn't as it didn't look well, it didn't look like

1033
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 4: one way traffic.

1034
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: I think I'm a big believer in doing a lot

1035
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: more of that on the court. I'm going to so

1036
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: many of these players do so much shit off the

1037
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: court with this and that and blah blah blah. It's

1038
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: like guys get on the court, like STEFFI Graff used

1039
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: to do hours and hours on the court doing training,

1040
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: like stay on the court and do the work, do

1041
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: the foot drills, do all that sort of stuff. So

1042
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: it's obviously working. So if she gets through the quarters.

1043
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 2: There are there are multiple more things than just that,

1044
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 2: but I thought that was the of course.

1045
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: And look, they're both going to help her transition into

1046
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: the net better all the things. So anyway, so if

1047
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: she gets through, okay, let's drop down to the bottom

1048
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:16,919
Speaker 1: half of the top half of the drawer up the top.

1049
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 1: Their big news today, Yeah, Rebarkiner, my favorite coach is gone.

1050
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 2: Maybe this is the liberation was said in total Finally

1051
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 2: you will get suit for other things podcast.

1052
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 4: That guy has been This is why I'm back on

1053
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 4: the podcast to give her cover for saying controversial things

1054
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 4: by angering entire countries.

1055
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: Let's not get into that. I didn't say is gone

1056
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: and Rebarkina has parted ways with what's his name.

1057
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 2: Let's not even say his name, what a great outcome.

1058
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 2: Let's I'm rude. I always refra what he's going on

1059
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 2: with her.

1060
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: I mean, she's either sick or she's injured. So I

1061
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: don't know if this had a lot to do with it.

1062
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. We cannot speculate.

1063
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 4: Obviously, let's peak Andrea speculate, but only I won't speculate.

1064
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 2: I know a little bit that I won't reveal.

1065
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 3: I will say one thing because she talked about it before,

1066
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 3: not that because it's really private, and it's very private anyways.

1067
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 3: One thing she said she mentioned herself, but that's why

1068
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,280
Speaker 3: I'm repeating it. She had trouble sleeping. She hasn't been sleeping,

1069
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 3: she said. During Rome and Madrid, she has barely been sleeping.

1070
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 3: And I think you can sometimes see it that she

1071
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 3: has insomnia right now. And just imagine how it feels

1072
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 3: playing a match when you've only slept two hours, and

1073
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 3: now imagine that doing it week in week out. I

1074
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 3: don't know if she still has that sleep problems, but

1075
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 3: she talked about it that the French opened that during

1076
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 3: the clay court season.

1077
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 2: And she looks struggling and in addition to the ab

1078
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,720
Speaker 2: injuries or the yes, but she's.

1079
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 3: Looked flat, and I think when you're not sleeping, your

1080
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 3: immune system falls down.

1081
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 2: You catch everything that's in the locker room, you get injured.

1082
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,879
Speaker 2: All these things maybe a turning point. I love rooting

1083
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 2: for her and I hope she does well.

1084
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: One thing we did skip over in that section about

1085
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: the Draco Penko and Osaka Osaka. I mean when I

1086
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: first round, I love that, and Kennan Emma Radikanu first round.

1087
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: There are some just seriously good first.

1088
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 4: Round that's amazing. I think Osaka loses in the first round.

1089
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 1: I do too, and I picked her to win the

1090
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: tournament like she Remember when she played that unbelievable match

1091
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 1: against Ega, I'm like, she's my favorite to win the US.

1092
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 2: I think she was playing that well. This is I'm

1093
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 2: the I know, I'm the only one. I think she

1094
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 2: was hitting the ball. I thought she was moving unbelievably well.

1095
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 2: I think she wasn't moving. I think IgA played the

1096
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 2: most catastrophic day. She played. Play courts all season, stop

1097
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 2: pointing in my face. I'm sorry, but I think she's

1098
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 2: not moving well and that's why she's losing. It's not

1099
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 2: her strokes. She can play amazing tennis. I think she's

1100
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 2: I think she should do the Jess Pagoula and do

1101
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 2: more things on court, and it will change in a

1102
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 2: week for her because she's so powerful. The three of

1103
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 2: us together, she has.

1104
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: Got better better ship together in the first round because

1105
00:49:58,680 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: she's the Penko is going.

1106
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 4: To be like no, Pinko's had a great year, ps

1107
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 4: like Austin Pinco's Well, everyone's been sleeping, she's been.

1108
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1109
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:12,720
Speaker 3: For Naomi, it's literally a salt a billionth of a graham.

1110
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 3: Oh wait, I've got a spray that can help a

1111
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:21,879
Speaker 3: billions of a gram away from her winning major tournaments again.

1112
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 2: But I do think there's just a.

1113
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 3: Little little bit in movement agility that she needs to okay, well,

1114
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 3: get quite right, and then she can be We'll see

1115
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 3: what happens.

1116
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 1: Leila Fernandez has been having a pretty good little run

1117
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: as well. She's there and Paulini and Bianca Andreetesco first round.

1118
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: That is also a blockbuster, And it wouldn't surprise me

1119
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: if Bianca actually pulls off a victory there.

1120
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 4: Really yeah, because I bet she likes playing against Paolini actually,

1121
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 4: but that's.

1122
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: They both sort of play similarly. They both got their

1123
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: quick hands and not.

1124
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 2: Super tall of both of them. They both move well.

1125
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: I hope Bianca plays her bad, but I actually hope

1126
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: they both to play really well and we get a

1127
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: great Max much jam.

1128
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 2: No, there would be a great man.

1129
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 4: I can't hear I can't hear you loving Jasmin Pellin anymore.

1130
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: All right, shut up? Okay, So the bottom half of

1131
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: the drawer. Kujikova wins Wimbledon. I don't know where she's

1132
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: been since, hasn't been playing well, but Doza is up there.

1133
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 2: She looks like she probably will.

1134
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: Get through that section.

1135
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 2: I love good and powerful.

1136
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 3: The best thing is, she said in the interview after

1137
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 3: she won in Cincinnati a few rounds and after she

1138
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 3: already won the Washington d C title, and they asked

1139
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 3: her what changed for you? And she's like, I just

1140
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 3: finally became an athlete again.

1141
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: That's perfect.

1142
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 2: And I'm like, Paula, I know I love you, but

1143
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 2: now I know why that's a shirt. I just believe.

1144
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: I don't understand why she's chosen.

1145
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 2: I'm just finally an athlete again. She said that I was.

1146
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,879
Speaker 2: That's a Shakari Richardson. I'm not back. I'm better.

1147
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: I'm better Okay, Saar Sakari up there as a ranker,

1148
00:51:56,120 --> 00:52:00,439
Speaker 1: Emma Navarro Costure. It's that is a very good section

1149
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 1: of the drawer with a lot of really good players

1150
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: fit to Lina and chin Win Jung. Did I say

1151
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: it right?

1152
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 4: Ka, you've actually actually but chin Win is in the

1153
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 4: bottom half along with Sabalanca.

1154
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 2: I think that's no.

1155
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that until we talk about the fact that.

1156
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 2: Excuse me, what.

1157
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:21,879
Speaker 1: About Anissa Mova and chin Win? That's the first round?

1158
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 2: Oh, they are playing for a show.

1159
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's my upset on the first round.

1160
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,240
Speaker 2: No way, I think Cooka loses in the first round again.

1161
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: No, she's going to be girtch.

1162
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 2: I don't think she's a better player than Have you

1163
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 2: guys watched any Cocoa golf matches recently? Yeah, but she

1164
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 2: wins these matches. She wins these matches.

1165
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: It's the wins against really good players that she's not winning.

1166
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1167
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 2: Oh, you sound a little negative as well, And I'm

1168
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 2: not negative.

1169
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 3: I'm worried for her because she has looked so so

1170
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 3: stressed the last few the last few weeks that I'm

1171
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 3: just worried if she's stressed in Cincinnati and Toronto. How

1172
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 3: will she be here or where she has two thousand

1173
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 3: points to defend and that's one thousand.

1174
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: The worst she's going to drop too is five or six.

1175
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: So I would be saying, listen.

1176
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know it's not I don't think it's

1177
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 4: I don't think it's the points. I think it's new

1178
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 4: Balance pop ups. I think it's the commercials. I think

1179
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 4: it's the Wheati's box. I think it's all that stuff

1180
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 4: I think she has had during the flag carrying the flag.

1181
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 4: I think she's had three solid weeks of just the

1182
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 4: promotional machine. I think that ultimately is what made Serena

1183
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 4: falter in her highest moments, because all of a sudden,

1184
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 4: everyone was like, hey, so what is it going to

1185
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 4: feel like to win this again? And it's like, well, well,

1186
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 4: I haven't even won my first match.

1187
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: Let me win my first set.

1188
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I think that's what Coco's going through right now.

1189
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 3: When Caitlin, the most liberal person I maybe now, turns

1190
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 3: into a conservative.

1191
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 2: Older man on Twitter.

1192
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 3: She's like, she's doing too many photo shoots, that's why

1193
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 3: she won't play.

1194
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 2: Well, it's me, yeah, that's you. I mean, I'm you know,

1195
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 2: as always the mirror up to me. You know, I'm

1196
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 2: in a way that I don't love got my Harris Walls,

1197
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 2: But I just think that the thing that always makes

1198
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 2: me believe in Coco Goth no matter what, no matter

1199
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 2: how bad she's playing, no matter how it's dressed out,

1200
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 2: she is she has a champion's mind. She's the best competitor.

1201
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 2: We have one tour her and Vosniaki.

1202
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 3: I know she hasn't maybe looked at against Putin Sieva

1203
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 3: and against Schneider and Toronto.

1204
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 2: But it's in her.

1205
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 3: I saied so many times. There is something special in

1206
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,760
Speaker 3: the kid. That's why she has had the success she's listen.

1207
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 1: You and I have talked about this at nauseum. We

1208
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: adore Coco. I agree with you with the champion's mentality.

1209
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: The problem is where has that been of late? And

1210
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: it's a combination for me. If you go into a

1211
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: Grand Slam or any tournament and you know what your

1212
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: weaknesses are, right, I knew why weaknesses. You knew your weaknesses,

1213
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 1: and your weaknesses were really bad. In stressful moments on

1214
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,720
Speaker 1: the court. It was like all you could think about

1215
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: at night was I'm not serving well, I'm not in

1216
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 1: my forehand well oh fuck. And then you get on

1217
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 1: the court then, and also, sorry, there's a lot of

1218
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 1: cooks in that kitchen.

1219
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 3: Man.

1220
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,439
Speaker 1: I look at her on the practice court and there's

1221
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: like eighteen people around her. I'm like, oh my god.

1222
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 2: But you know how it is.

1223
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 3: Sometimes when you're not playing well, especially the top players,

1224
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 3: they built protective shields around them so they just have

1225
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,439
Speaker 3: Serena did the same thing. Whenever she was not playing well.

1226
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, she had an entourage of twenty seven.

1227
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 2: She held around one person telling her what to do

1228
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 2: on that. I tell but it doesn't matter, That's what

1229
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 2: I mean. You don't know who's talking to her. In

1230
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 2: the end.

1231
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 3: It's sometimes just the protective shield around the top players,

1232
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 3: so nobody, you know, so a fan doesn't go up

1233
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 3: and is like, hey, cucko, what's wrong with your forehand?

1234
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 2: Because that's the last thing she needs. That's why you

1235
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 2: have multiple people on.

1236
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:33,760
Speaker 1: The lad I know it, but I'm just talking about Serena.

1237
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 2: You coached. She was exactly the same.

1238
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,280
Speaker 3: When she played well, she was rocked up with two people.

1239
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 3: And then the minute she lost I don't know, third round,

1240
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 3: which rarely ever happened, all of a sudden she was

1241
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,439
Speaker 3: with thirty seven people in a players lounge who all

1242
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 3: had a circle around her and nobody could come near her.

1243
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. I tend to disagree with that a

1244
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,720
Speaker 1: little bit. I think Serena always had the same types

1245
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,879
Speaker 1: of same people around her. And yes, with stars coming

1246
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: in every now and again, like Beyonce bopping into the

1247
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: Megan Mark called Buppin into her players, sure, but as

1248
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 1: far as her core team, she always only had the

1249
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: same people really, you know, physio, sister, maybe marm or

1250
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,800
Speaker 1: dad who was ever there. Clearly Venus was around, but

1251
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 1: you know she had a physio, She had a hitting partner,

1252
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 1: same hitting partner, same coach. So I don't know. My

1253
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 1: thing with Coco is I see her practicing and there's

1254
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: this one guy from the moritaglu Clant camp or whatever,

1255
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 1: and he's telling her how to hit volleys the other

1256
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: day and I was like, Okay, who's the coach, just

1257
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 1: Brad the coach, it's this guy the coach.

1258
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 2: Is this the technical coach?

1259
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: Like there's so much going on, which is why when

1260
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 1: shit starts going down on the court, she's looking up

1261
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: at them in the players box going tell me what

1262
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 1: to do.

1263
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 2: Tell me what to do.

1264
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: It's like, oh my god.

1265
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 2: So the champion.

1266
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: Mentality that we're used to her being calm, composed, unbelievably

1267
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 1: composed for her age, that's gone.

1268
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 2: Where is that gone?

1269
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: And so for me, when you know that you're not

1270
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: hitting your weaknesses very well and they're breaking down under pressure,

1271
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: which they are right now, it builds anxiety and stress

1272
00:56:59,600 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 1: in you.

1273
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 2: That's what we're seeing.

1274
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: So hopefully, hopefully she can get through a couple of

1275
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 1: rounds and get that confidence back with the Botto line

1276
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 1: is she needs to not miss the Foyant, which she

1277
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: wasn't doing last year at all, and she needs to

1278
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 1: serve better. The second servers become a liability. But we

1279
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: talked about it Caitlin in the previous podcast. As we

1280
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: get to the end of this one, I said, I

1281
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: didn't have a favorite for the first time in my

1282
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: life coming into a Grand Slam. There's no outstanding favorite.

1283
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: Hold the thought there's no favorite going into the US

1284
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:29,919
Speaker 1: Open on the men's or women's side. It's the first

1285
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: time I've ever felt that. Really, I have now changed

1286
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: my mind. Sabalanca has become for me the overwhelming favorite,

1287
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 1: and the women's for what she did purely because look,

1288
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: she didn't play well in Montreal, blah blah, all the things.

1289
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: But when you come into the tournament having won a

1290
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: tournament the way she won one last week against the

1291
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: players she beat in Eager and Pigoula for back to back,

1292
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: she comes in here with all the confidence.

1293
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 3: She's my new favorite. Those were not the matches. Those

1294
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 3: were not the matches. I called the site match. And

1295
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 3: she was playing the same she's played all year, dicey, choppy, crap, No,

1296
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 3: not crap, just icy and choppy. And something clicked in

1297
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 3: the first game of the second set against Sittulina, and

1298
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 3: she was Arena Sabalenka from the Australian Open. And I

1299
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 3: said it on air, she's going to win the tournament

1300
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 3: and she's going.

1301
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 2: To win amazing and one down, I have one more

1302
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 2: to go. Okay, you could see, you know, sometimes you

1303
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 2: see something.

1304
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: It just clicks.

1305
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 2: Clicks.

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00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 1: That's about positions, like, oh my god, she's going to

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Speaker 1: win the US Open. Like she wasn't missing a ball.

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Speaker 1: So that is not the case this year.

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Speaker 4: So that's mostly because I were in a sablac. I

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Speaker 4: forgot how to play tennis during the second.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that I agree with you. Sure in the final,

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Speaker 1: but in the end you have to win. You have

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Speaker 1: to hit the shots, and she you have to get

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Speaker 1: to the final, and she won Washington. She played great

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Speaker 1: and last year and she won.

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Speaker 4: Since this year, it's the dobell Ace Plumber double. It's Taylor,

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Speaker 4: Fritz and Abaca in my opinion.

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Speaker 1: So you're picking sabal Anka and I think al Chaz,

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Speaker 1: and you are picking Tailor Franz Okay and and Sabillaca.

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Speaker 2: Who are you picking? We're all picking Sablenka.

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Speaker 1: And I have to stick with my original pick from

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Speaker 1: months ago, and that was Yanick Center I said. I

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Speaker 1: said Yanick was going to win. He was going to

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Speaker 1: book end the years, was going to win the natural

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00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: surface tournaments. And so I have to stick with Yanik.

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Speaker 1: It is going to be like going through sledge and

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Speaker 1: sludge and mud trying to get to the final between him,

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Speaker 1: Alcaraz and ye the dra of death.

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Speaker 2: So if he makes it, but.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I got to stick with it because I picked him,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not gone.

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Speaker 3: And maybe you're spot on because he will feel liberated

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Speaker 3: from all of what was going on for the last

1334
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 3: four months weighing on him, and maybe he will feel

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Speaker 3: ten pounds lighter and fly.

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Speaker 1: The last thing that dude needs to do is be

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Speaker 1: ten pounds lighter, because he will fly away. He'll be

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Speaker 1: He'll be picked up in the jet stream. He'll get

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Speaker 1: picked up in the jets him from Lagadi.

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Speaker 2: This is a terrible combination, the three of us, because it's.

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Speaker 4: Just well, it's been a real delight Leys coming back

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Speaker 4: into the studio.

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Speaker 2: What a treasure guy to do a podcast?

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01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,959
Speaker 1: Have complaints? Take them to Kateline what okay?

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01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 4: Just because your name is on the show now and rebranded,

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01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 4: So do not take them to me.

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01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 2: Take them to So Just so everyone knows, Renee gives

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Speaker 2: us talking pines that we have to say, and so

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Speaker 2: it's all her.

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Speaker 4: I do.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's right.

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Speaker 1: I've never been able to tell you.

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Speaker 3: What to do.

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Speaker 2: We don't have we don't have a free will. This

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01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 2: is a forced listen.

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Speaker 1: We are is three very educated women and we're getting

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Speaker 1: our opinion.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't mean crap. Thanks for listening to it. Everybody listening, everybody.

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Speaker 1: We will be back the second Monday of the US

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Speaker 1: Open to bring you more of what's happened.

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Speaker 2: At the first week. But thanks for joining us today

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Speaker 2: on

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Speaker 1: The Renee subs Tennis podcast, and we'll see you soon

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