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Speaker 1: Reveal reveale.

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Speaker 2: Look at this now.

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Speaker 1: Tip to Jesus, oh.

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Speaker 2: Cous doing will be luck too. It's time. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know what that means. Right, it's UFC three twenty

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Speaker 2: one pregame preview right in your absolute face. Whold, Welcome

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Speaker 2: to Morning Combat. It's October twenty second of the twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Is just a few days out from this weekend's UFC

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Speaker 2: pay per view in Abu Dhabi. Brian Campbell, Luke Thomas

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Speaker 2: special guest this week from The Uncrowned and many other

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Speaker 2: ways websites throughout the great history of this sport. Sir

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Speaker 2: Charles the Iceman, Chuck Mendenhall, great to have with it.

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Speaker 1: I'm the counter Jed Mishu. That's what I am.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, does that?

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's what it means. Hey, right, yeah, don't.

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Speaker 2: Count yourself out. Yeah yeah, you know you're in your head.

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Speaker 2: You Jimmy eat works.

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Speaker 1: Jimmy right before he ate asked.

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Speaker 2: But hey, this is going to be a great show.

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Speaker 2: By the way, it's Aspen all gone, it's Jandurobodern too.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot more. We're gonna break it all down.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get fired up. A Chuck, I don't know

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Speaker 2: if you've heard this about this show.

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Speaker 1: Okay, there's some expectations.

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Speaker 2: That we would be real, that we would break things

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Speaker 2: down with real talk like men.

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Speaker 1: Do, men do?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, all right, I'd like to say about timing,

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Speaker 2: because now it is a good time for this program,

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Speaker 2: and that was a good time to remember, by the way,

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Speaker 2: where Tequila's story actually began. All right, let me tell

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Speaker 2: you about it. In seventeen nine, our good friends at

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Speaker 2: still right here right now, in every poor, in every margarita,

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Speaker 2: at all Quervo, the tequila that invented tequila. Proximoquervo dot com.

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Speaker 2: Please drink responsibly and chuck anytime we get to get

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Speaker 2: you in here with our friends at Quervo to break

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Speaker 2: down the big UFC card coming this weekend. It's always

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Speaker 2: a great time. When I say UFC three twenty one

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Speaker 2: to you.

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Speaker 1: You say yes please? All right, yeah, all show over,

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Speaker 1: I guess we're done.

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Speaker 2: So it's the best in the world. You know, that's

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Speaker 2: all we need is that your what are your thoughts?

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Speaker 2: You fired up?

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Speaker 1: Happy heart? I think it's a good card, man, I

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Speaker 3: The main the main card has a little bit for everybody.

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Speaker 3: We haven't seen Tom Aspinall for fifteen months. I feel

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Speaker 1: Who he is.

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Speaker 3: And I also loved the idea of kind of, you know,

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Speaker 3: So if Aspinall wins, if John Jones wants to.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of there's a lot of outside factors here,

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Speaker 1: and I love when we have that kind of setup.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Luke Thomas, you know we look for you in

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Speaker 2: these early pregame previews before the alcohol kicks in to

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Speaker 2: both of you say pretty damn good pay per view

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Speaker 4: Yeah, great, Well you got two title fights, Aspinall getting making.

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Speaker 4: I think this is the first time the UFC heavyweight

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Speaker 2: In the full undisputed. Now you can argue I thought

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Speaker 4: Comin event is an important fight because obviously the champ

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Speaker 4: Now that's a solid be given the circumstances where aspinall

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Speaker 2: The we gotta be you gotta be on the report card,

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Speaker 4: I will say the prelims on this card feel no. Well,

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Speaker 2: But that man just died, and the one guy.

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Speaker 4: Just died, and the worst guy got paralyzed, and then

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Speaker 4: Sutherland just feels like it's sky banana potential all over it,

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Speaker 4: all right. But and by the way, Hamdi al abdel

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Speaker 2: At least it's not nubs. We plan on charming you

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Speaker 2: just the same throughout this broadcast. You can like and

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Speaker 2: subscribe to what we got going on here on Morning Combat.

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Speaker 2: So excited to bring you the full pregame preview to you,

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Speaker 2: brought to you by Cuervo. Follow us on our extended

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Speaker 2: social channels right there, hey, follow everything, Chuck Mindenhall, does

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Speaker 2: I think you already do?

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Speaker 1: Quick?

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Speaker 2: Hello to the fourth member of our team today, the producer, director,

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Speaker 2: bong enthusiast and a man who we're pretty thankful that

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Speaker 2: there was an Aussie who was horned up. That's why

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Speaker 2: he's here. It's Luke no Sieda of the main card minute.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what's up, boys, I'm hype for this card. I'm

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Speaker 5: going to give it an a I'm giving it a holiday. Yeah, Luke,

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Speaker 5: you left out the two best prelims when talking about

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Speaker 1: A banger as well?

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Speaker 4: I do like Wood del Gatto. I'm not quiet quite

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Speaker 4: client Ron Beki is going to be This is what

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Speaker 4: I mean. I didn't say that the beltial preblems don't

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Speaker 2: There you go. A quick reminder that if you want

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Speaker 2: to dress like me and look like me, I don't

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Speaker 2: over the morning combat right now? For want that October

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Speaker 2: exclusives are in the building from the Washed, that super

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Speaker 2: Washed Dad's Average Joe art creation. How about that Frank

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Speaker 2: and Luke and Donkeylo Halloween crossover. Get your autographed posters,

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Speaker 2: Nixon mats, the colors. We got a great slew of

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Speaker 2: evergreen items that I would love if Chuck would outfit

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Speaker 2: his family and them head on over the Morning Combat

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Speaker 2: Dot Shop.

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Speaker 1: All right, it just does good work, by the way,

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Speaker 1: man like that? Who the artist there doesn't?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're talking about average joy.

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Speaker 2: I mean if you if you already ness.

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Speaker 1: You ever need something done something? Yeah, I think he's

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Speaker 1: done something with me on it before. I don't remember. Nice,

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Speaker 1: great gentlemen, Uh a lasting impact on you. I can

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Speaker 2: It's time to do this. It's time to break down

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Speaker 2: these fights and we're gonna have some fun here with

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Speaker 2: our Quervo Tequila Blanco today. You're ready to get You're

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Speaker 2: ready to get white with me?

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Speaker 1: Yes, Blanco blanco, okay, ally brought to you by Quervo.

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Speaker 2: Now's a good time to enjoy the tequila that invented tequila.

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Speaker 2: And we will enjoy that, right It is.

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Speaker 1: It is eleven o nine in the morning, so why not?

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Speaker 1: You know, there we go. I had three margaritas last

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Speaker 3: By the way, did you really? Yeah, that's like that's

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Speaker 3: a lot for you these days.

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Speaker 1: As you're telling me.

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Speaker 2: That was on my a margarita.

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Speaker 4: I told my wife I had to bike home just

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Speaker 4: to kind of like cycle the alcohol.

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Speaker 2: You think about a grown man on a knee bike.

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Speaker 1: Knee bike. I'm an eat bike dad, Now, okay, eat

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Speaker 1: my shit. Okay, that's how.

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Speaker 2: I take that, Joseph.

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Speaker 4: I've had it for two months. I've got how many

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Speaker 4: miles do you think I put on it? And I

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Speaker 2: Wow, Now, Luke, we won't We won't judge him more

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Speaker 2: than at least three times. He will chase that enough

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Speaker 2: for you. Chase that.

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Speaker 1: Alright.

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Speaker 2: We do always salute to, you know what, all the

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Speaker 2: divorced women out there, you know, because this show is.

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Speaker 1: Used to say, here's the swimming with bow legg.

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Speaker 2: And no one else cares. And Chuck, would you like

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Speaker 2: to send this one? I don't know the troops where

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Speaker 2: you're looking to to Colombian people everywhere where do you go.

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Speaker 1: Let's go with the Paraguay.

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Speaker 2: South American tradition that Luke never talks about.

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Speaker 1: That's right, is what? All right?

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Speaker 2: Luca? Please uh cayhill.

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Speaker 1: Al. That's a lot of That's a lot. That's the

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Speaker 1: Can I get a napkin by chance?

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Speaker 4: Because I am a yes?

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Speaker 2: What a way?

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Speaker 3: What a way that we touched on the fights a

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Speaker 2: The good news here, fellas with this main event UFC

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Speaker 2: the crown is yours when we're looking at this main event.

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Speaker 2: We talked a lot this week, Chuck leading into this

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Speaker 3: I mean, the pressure is on Aspinall in this fight,

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Speaker 3: Don't you think he kind of stands now as the guy?

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Speaker 2: Well, every UFC opponent he's faced, he has finished, meaning

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Speaker 2: What's his chin ground game look like when it's really tested?

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Speaker 2: But do you think he's shown enough to let you

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure how to answer that.

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Speaker 4: That's a great question because everything we've seen has been

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Speaker 2: I mean it's been in two three years of this

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Speaker 1: It's just insanely, it's insane.

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Speaker 4: So so you know, from what we've seen, it's been great.

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Speaker 4: I don't think his success is in any way. You

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Speaker 4: didn't ask this, but it's not accidental. It's there's a

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Speaker 4: lot of things you can cebc the speed, the athleticism,

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Speaker 4: like none of those things are accidental. The one problem

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Speaker 1: Very rarely at that.

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Speaker 4: And it's like, don't get me wrong, he clearly has

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Speaker 4: extremely important. But my rule has always and maybe Tom

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Speaker 4: never thought possible. Aspinall's never even been close. And you know,

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Speaker 4: the little tiny window we've seen looks like magic, but we're.

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Speaker 1: Only seeing a little tiny Can I tell you what

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Speaker 3: He's six fights four years, just over nine minutes of

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Speaker 1: It's insane.

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Speaker 4: He's even openly talked about I like that. There's no

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think he obviously wants to compete this way,

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Speaker 4: and we all do the adage. You don't get paid

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Speaker 4: it limits and also you know, show of hands. Have

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Speaker 4: you seen Aspinall do this.

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Speaker 2: I've seen it, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: And like you're like, Okay, someone hasn't.

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Speaker 2: And you compared him to Magic, you meant pre HIV

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Speaker 2: like closer to his time, right, No, Seriously, Tom Messenhal's

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Speaker 2: the greatest tequila is reporting. I'll just slit that best

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Speaker 2: the best knockout threat in the UFC history. Now, obviously

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Speaker 3: And also, like just consider that he's fighting Gone, who's

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Speaker 3: if you're gone, your whole thing should be Let's see

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Speaker 3: I mean that should be the whole mission, going into the.

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Speaker 2: Wing to pause that because I asked Cyril gon that

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Speaker 1: Hey did you talk to these guys? You haven't mentioned it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to show the whole interview. But I

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Speaker 2: I can do it both ways. I'm just as willing

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Speaker 1: That was a reflect to me, that's a victim.

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Speaker 2: That's a red flag to me because I don't want

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Speaker 1: Before he was fighting for He started fighting twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Right, it's like it's incredible. So there's things that he

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Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I mean, this is it when

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Speaker 4: And also, you know, dude, hey, you have bad judgment

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Speaker 2: I mean he was.

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Speaker 2: I say that Gon couldn't be entering this fight unless

435
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Speaker 2: of a hot streak, Like if if that speedback fight

436
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Speaker 2: was the one fight in the five where maybe we

437
00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,560
Speaker 2: saw the best version of him, how much better can

438
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Speaker 2: he be? Because what Gon told me ultimately was I

439
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Speaker 2: made one mistake against John Jones, and everyone thinks I

440
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Speaker 2: have a bad ground game because of that.

441
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Speaker 1: No, that's not true.

442
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Speaker 4: He made many mistakes, and they were really not just

443
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Speaker 4: ordinary mistakes, they were really bad ones. So for example,

444
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Speaker 4: he said for that leg lock, he not only sat

445
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Speaker 4: for the leg lock, he sat and then for the

446
00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,479
Speaker 4: wrong and sat the wrong direction that's not one mistake,

447
00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,520
Speaker 4: that's two. Number one, you should have never have sat

448
00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,440
Speaker 4: for that ankle lock. You should have passed. And number two,

449
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Speaker 4: if you're going to sit for it, can you please

450
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Speaker 4: know how to fuck to finish it?

451
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Speaker 1: Finishing mechanics matter.

452
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Speaker 4: He did it the exact opposite wrong way you're supposed

453
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Speaker 4: to do it, then repeated the mistake in the Volkov fight.

454
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Speaker 1: This is what I mean BC, where he's like, I

455
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Speaker 1: made one mistake. No, the fuck you didn't.

456
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Speaker 4: You made many, and you compounded them in quick succession,

457
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Speaker 4: and all of it feeds back to somebody who not

458
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Speaker 4: recognizing what tends to be the problem here, which is

459
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Speaker 4: that you're out of your depth. You're going to shortcuts

460
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Speaker 4: in the grappling department, and you think that you can

461
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Speaker 4: take a short cut to a submission finish You cannot.

462
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Speaker 4: You don't have the skills.

463
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Speaker 1: For given that. Like people have seen kind of gone.

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Speaker 3: I think, like some of the things you're mentioning, like

465
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Speaker 3: obviously you're seeing it a little bit deeper level of analysis,

466
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Speaker 3: but like we've seen him lose, and we've seen him

467
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Speaker 3: like him win fights that he should have lost. Sure,

468
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Speaker 3: is it a disaster if he goes in there like say,

469
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Speaker 3: he just can't you know Aspinall, like all of a sudden,

470
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Speaker 3: it's the Gone era.

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Speaker 1: What if you want to cause this?

472
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Speaker 2: Like I think that's an official disaster for the heavyweight

473
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Speaker 2: division to have to wait this long only to find

474
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Speaker 2: out that because wasn't that dude that terrible?

475
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Speaker 1: That would be terrible.

476
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Speaker 3: And also, what are you gonna get You're gonna get

477
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Speaker 3: Jones coming back to fight Gone again.

478
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Speaker 2: You're gonna get Jones going I was right, I'll see it,

479
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Speaker 2: you know, Like that's it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is a huge fight for Tom Aspinall.

481
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Speaker 4: You could say what you want about, like how much

482
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Speaker 4: you like the individual matchup or what you think the

483
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Speaker 4: fight will be, but bc to the point you raise,

484
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Speaker 4: I mean, if we were clear on this show, I

485
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Speaker 4: mean Aspinall was the guy that John had to fight,

486
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Speaker 4: and John did duck him. Those things are unimpeachably true.

487
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Speaker 4: But what's not true is that we thought he was

488
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Speaker 4: the guy that John had to fight because oh we

489
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Speaker 4: know for a fact he'll beat him. It was because

490
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Speaker 4: he had the belt and because he had the best record,

491
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Speaker 4: and that's the guy you have to fight. But as

492
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Speaker 4: I mentioned before, we see like, we've never really seen someone.

493
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Speaker 4: What how does Tom Aspinall react if he gets tired? Right,

494
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Speaker 4: I have no fucking idea. What what is the threshold

495
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Speaker 4: where he gets tired?

496
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Speaker 1: Couldn't tell you. These are big questions.

497
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Speaker 4: You can answer that for virtually every other champion on

498
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Speaker 4: the roster, you cannot do it for him.

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Speaker 2: Long Islan Luke, Can we get an updated DraftKings odds

500
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Speaker 2: for this main event to see what, at least from

501
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Speaker 2: a betting standpoint, Cyriah Gone is up against?

502
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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, just give my phone a second to load.

503
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Speaker 2: Up all the pertinent information I have at already. But

504
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Speaker 2: that's fine, you know that's good right.

505
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Speaker 1: There on at UFC three twenty one.

506
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Speaker 6: Here we go, let me scroll down to that fight.

507
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Speaker 5: You know, tom Aspinall minus three point fifty five coming

508
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Speaker 5: back plus too eaty wows.

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Speaker 1: They don't have any faith in right.

510
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Speaker 2: Well, these are two normally well mannered gentleman for the

511
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Speaker 2: large part. But there's been a little man a little

512
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Speaker 2: bit of fireworks over the idea of did one turn

513
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Speaker 2: down a fight earlier when it was offered? And what that?

514
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Speaker 2: And it got saucy enough that we had to bring

515
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Speaker 2: Quervo back in here for a little bit of something

516
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Speaker 2: we call shots fire and shots fired of course, brought

517
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Speaker 2: to you by Cuervo. Now's a good time, hey R

518
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Speaker 2: right now, Okay, now's a good time to enjoy the

519
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 2: tequila invented tequila U. Tom Aspinall had gone on record

520
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Speaker 2: in the past and saying he felt like Cyril Gun

521
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Speaker 2: had ducked him for de Lopez, the coach of Gone disagreed.

522
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Speaker 2: They met up in the hotel lobby and Abu Dhabi

523
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Speaker 2: and had some words. Let's listens. From our perspective, that's

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Speaker 2: what happened.

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Speaker 7: Genuinely, Oh listen, I sort of them the physic and

526
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Speaker 7: I was John, I want Tom never has mentioned your

527
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Speaker 7: name or anything before.

528
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Speaker 8: Just that's the first time, but.

529
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Speaker 2: After for us, they didn't mention Cerol's name before.

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Speaker 1: Maybe not to you, but.

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Speaker 7: To where no mention is the do you want to fight?

532
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Speaker 8: They never even mentioned to me.

533
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Speaker 2: I swear I.

534
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Speaker 7: Can't much them.

535
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Speaker 1: I believe it was like this is whold me.

536
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Speaker 2: I'm only saying, but from my perspective, it is the truth.

537
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Speaker 1: From your perspective it might be different, but I'm just

538
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 1: saying my truth. I would never make you up and

539
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 1: be like oh he's he's a pussy or whatever. I

540
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't do that.

541
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Speaker 2: I'm saying the truth from our perspective.

542
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Speaker 1: No, it makes sense, of course I would. I'm never

543
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Speaker 1: gonna start making up some lies.

544
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Speaker 2: But from the trash before.

545
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Speaker 1: Manchester, it's about the.

546
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Speaker 2: Club dance.

547
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Speaker 8: No, don't want about it.

548
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Speaker 2: It's like you, yeah, we little bit, we're gonna fight.

549
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Speaker 1: It was a good guy. You don't. You don't waste

550
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Speaker 1: heat like that.

551
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Speaker 2: You know what you do about nothing?

552
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Speaker 1: Ultimately, Herelty, it's not going to John Jones, d C.

553
00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:58,719
Speaker 1: I can tell you that.

554
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Speaker 2: Where's Dave Shaller when you need him? We do, though, have.

555
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Speaker 1: Additional He runs PR for the commanders.

556
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Speaker 2: Now really, I know he went to the seventy six.

557
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 4: Runs PR for the commanders. He's the head of PR

558
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Speaker 4: for the Sixers and the Commanders simultaneously. It's the same

559
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Speaker 4: guy who owns both the Josh Harris group.

560
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Speaker 2: I didn't know that.

561
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Speaker 4: So he started with the seventy six ers and now

562
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Speaker 4: he does. He's ahead of PR for the Washington Commander.

563
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Speaker 4: I think he's from Atlantic City, right, Dave.

564
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Speaker 1: Today.

565
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Speaker 4: It was maybe when Cowboy came into studio on Serious

566
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Speaker 4: XM and the interview was over.

567
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Speaker 1: He's like, where's the nearest titty bar?

568
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Speaker 3: And I was like, well, okay, you already have it

569
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Speaker 3: all printed out right here?

570
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Speaker 2: Look, can you set up the sound by Cheryl Gon

571
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Speaker 2: having a little bit of beefair with tom asprown putting

572
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Speaker 2: hands on opponent shoulders? What's this ali about?

573
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Speaker 4: You know how he did the John Jones thing, almost

574
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Speaker 4: like a meme where it's like, hey, I'm being friendly,

575
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 4: but it's a big brother and he kind of does

576
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Speaker 4: this somewhat repeatedly. Gon didn't like the idea of having

577
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Speaker 4: that being done to him.

578
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Speaker 2: All right, serial gain, let's here.

579
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Speaker 8: It's a stupid thing. This is so if you want

580
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Speaker 8: to reach my side, I'm not to pull my hand

581
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Speaker 8: on his shoulder. If you want to have his wrench,

582
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Speaker 8: you just need to pull his hand on the wall.

583
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Speaker 8: He's gonna have his wrench. Why you don't need why?

584
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Speaker 1: Why?

585
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Speaker 8: Why you need to push his hand on my shoulder?

586
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 1: What?

587
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Speaker 2: What do you think it is? Do you think?

588
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Speaker 1: It's like?

589
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Speaker 8: I'm not sure if the truth if he did that

590
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 8: for that he tells you say he did that.

591
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Speaker 1: I still don't know the answer.

592
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Speaker 8: I don't think so, because it's not smart if you

593
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Speaker 8: want to have my range, if you want to learn

594
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Speaker 8: something about my range and not to put my hand,

595
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Speaker 8: and you're gonna have marriage. Smart your head on.

596
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Speaker 1: Your rage people who.

597
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Speaker 8: You he is so smart? But no, brother, you're so stupid.

598
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 8: So yeah, that's funny.

599
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Speaker 1: That's funny.

600
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Speaker 8: That's very funny.

601
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Speaker 1: Tom's a big guy. There's no graceful way to grab

602
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Speaker 1: a man. Yeah, he's got like a throat tattoo almost

603
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Speaker 1: back to his spine.

604
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Speaker 2: Do you want to do this for sure?

605
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Speaker 1: Hey? For the people of Colorado, Colorado? Yes, thank you.

606
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 1: How they shooting each other again? What's going on? I

607
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: don't know.

608
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 2: I was told specifically, no Columbine jokes. Please, there we go.

609
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 3: No, it wasn't a I mean there's been like five

610
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:19,959
Speaker 3: thousand shooting since then.

611
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 1: All right, here we go. Well this is turned dark

612
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: and tragic.

613
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 4: What's it like watching Jokic cry over his horse winning

614
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 4: Oh god, and then acting like he got a bill

615
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 4: paid when you want it?

616
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: When he's like the job is, He's like, yeah, awesome, great,

617
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 1: you know I think it's great. Man.

618
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that dude has been a godsend for

619
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 3: the city of Denver. It's been a you know, but

620
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,239
Speaker 3: they if they don't want it this year. I mean,

621
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Speaker 3: they've done everything they're supposed to to like put themselves

622
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Speaker 3: in that position.

623
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Speaker 1: So it's gonna be fun. Man, Do you like him?

624
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 1: You gotta like Jokic, I mean.

625
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Speaker 4: I like the idea of him hating everything about celebrity life. Yes,

626
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 4: but you don't have to worry about the wizards, and

627
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 4: they've got a long way to go.

628
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: Sometimes have their number.

629
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Speaker 2: Hey, maybe Jervaris Critenden, we'll get out soon and be

630
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 2: able to Andre Blatch. Yes, yes, remember him back to

631
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 2: this main event of course. Okay, maybe that's not the

632
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 2: sauciest build up in the back and forth between them.

633
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 2: God has said repeatedly this week that he trusts his

634
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Speaker 2: own ground game, He respects Aspinall's ground game. Is this

635
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 2: even something we have to think about? Will this fight

636
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 2: go to the ground there?

637
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think so.

638
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Speaker 3: If he's being sincere and telling you that he doesn't

639
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 3: necessarily think he wants to drag him into a long

640
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 3: fight or anything like that, somebody's going to go down.

641
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 3: It's probably going to be him. I don't think it

642
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 3: goes to the ground. I think it does go to

643
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 3: the ground, you think, so, Yeah, but.

644
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 2: Who initiates that h oh as a way to show

645
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 2: as a way to take advantage of a suspected weak spot.

646
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, like just to blast him off of his feet.

647
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 4: I mean Aspinall subbed out volcoal from on top. He's got,

648
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 4: he's well rounded. I'm not saying it like as sometimes

649
00:28:58,480 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 4: we treat it like, oh, he'll take him to the

650
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 4: is like a refuge, and I think if it more

651
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 4: like he might mix it up, mix it up, take

652
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 4: it to the ground and like really put a hurting

653
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 4: on him there. Actually I don't. I don't see it

654
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 4: as a weakness. I see it as a.

655
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: Display of a multitude of strengths. Y.

656
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 2: Espinall's dad kind of broke down and countdown that his

657
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 2: initial strength was the wrestling. But we don't see aspaal

658
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 2: have to use that a lot. So it's really hard

659
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 2: to tell. I know he's got three submission wins as

660
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 2: a pro, but that's all.

661
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: It goes back to the lack of tape, right, So.

662
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it is right there. When we talk

663
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 2: about what they're fighting for, obviously we know that that

664
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 2: for gone. It's in some ways to save the trajectory

665
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 2: of his career and finally live up to those expectations.

666
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 2: For Aspenau, it's to cement that the hype was for

667
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 2: real and now we can get back to business and

668
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 2: we may have a historically relevant heavyweight champion for all

669
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 2: we know if this continues. But in terms of like

670
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 2: who's next, I know the Rosen strike, I'm sorry, Roses strike,

671
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 2: good lord, I know the Johnson All made a volcal

672
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 2: fight that we're going to get to could very well

673
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 2: produce the next title contender. But are we expecting the

674
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 2: John Jones comeback tied to the White House potentially against

675
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 2: Perreira to be an alternate thing separate from the title

676
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 2: picture at the moment, or is there a chance that

677
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 2: Gone and Aspinall are fighting for a potential fight against

678
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: either one of those.

679
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 4: It feels to me, if I'm being honest, not so

680
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 4: much in what the actual paper says about what the

681
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 4: fight is. With the paper is this is a full

682
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 4: weight class champion in a title defense against a challenger,

683
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 4: But it still feels like this is the interim championship.

684
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: And if John ends.

685
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 4: Up fighting I agree Alex at the White House, that's

686
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 4: almost seen as like again not formally the championship, but

687
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 4: I know the most important heavyweight fight that the UFC

688
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 4: could put together certainly the one that the fans I

689
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 4: would I would imagine would have the most amount of

690
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 4: interest in, which is weird because it'd be one light

691
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 4: heavyweight coming up all the way from middleweight essentially versus

692
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 4: a guy who ducked the other guy who's been out.

693
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're punishing the guy that he was ducking.

694
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a question like, let's see what happens here.

695
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 4: Let's imagine aspinall wins, but it's somehow not like a

696
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:03,239
Speaker 4: very interesting fight or a mandate. And then you have

697
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 4: a John versus Alex fight at the White House, and

698
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 4: whoever wins, it's exciting and thrilling and like hugely momentum building.

699
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 4: You just can't tell me that the statue whatever they say,

700
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 4: whoever has the belt, fine, but the stature of it

701
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 4: confers importance, and that importance would be definitely tilted towards

702
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 4: that event.

703
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: Look trying to get like resolution in the heavyweight division.

704
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: Imagine imagine what that would do.

705
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 2: That would just like we can you just because like

706
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 2: as much as I hate what John Jones did and

707
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 2: how he handled it in the length and everything, and

708
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 2: now he wants to be back and it's just like,

709
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 2: oh God, him against Pereira is a monumental fight no

710
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 2: matter how you frame it. But you're right, that would

711
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 2: completely we would consider that almost the heavyweight Championship.

712
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 4: Heavyweight fight being significantly bigger and more important than the

713
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 4: heavyweight champions.

714
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 2: Straight heavyweight champions. They ate the belt and they were

715
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 2: had the potential to be two of the best of

716
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 2: all time and a Gano and John him they.

717
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 3: Do it though, like you were mentioning a scenario where

718
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 3: he gets by gone, but like he goes in there

719
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 3: and he crush is gone, Like can.

720
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: They still do that? I mean, to put him.

721
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 3: Aside at that point would almost feel promotional while practice right.

722
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: Like you're you're the guy.

723
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 3: You have a guy who you should be behind, who's

724
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 3: putting a smoking everybody that he faces, and he can't

725
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 3: get into that big fight like that would be crazy absurdity.

726
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 2: It would be absurd. But is the flip side that

727
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 2: if God pulls the upset here, that that brings John

728
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 2: Jones to the White House for the belt in a rematch,

729
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 2: that would be the story rewarding behavior but that's like

730
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 2: throwing a dolly through a window in Brooklyn and getting

731
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 2: the biggest title fight ever Aspen.

732
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 4: The only cat there is Dana White himself, finding John

733
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 4: an unreliable partner to promote. That's the one thing that,

734
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 4: no matter what happens, could derail that plan. But dude,

735
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 4: I mean again I said it before. It's one thing

736
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 4: if John is floating a fight. I don't want to

737
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 4: fight the champion. I want to fight a light heavyweight

738
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 4: blown up at heavyweight, even though at that time he

739
00:32:59,080 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 4: was the champion.

740
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: But that's not the case anymore.

741
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 4: And now Poeton is the one lobbying for it, which

742
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 4: totally changes the dynamics of how that fight is being perceived.

743
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: What do UC will do? I mean, your guess is

744
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: as good as mine.

745
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 3: What if what if Jaylton Almeida, for instance, like a

746
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 3: new blood coming up wins, you know, your wins.

747
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: Convincingly aspinall wins.

748
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 3: Right now you have like a guy within those ranks

749
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 3: who's coming for him, right, could they do it then?

750
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: Could it be like Okay, now you've got a two piece,

751
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: you've got the heavy Maybe that's what they could do, right,

752
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: like they could against.

753
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 4: I think if Aspinall goes in there and annihilates Gone,

754
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 4: that changes the.

755
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 3: I agree, I agree. I'm just going through the hypotheticals.

756
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 3: But that's that's what I'm saying. The absurdity at the

757
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 3: very top, I was like, the absurdity if he goes

758
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 3: in there and wins, the absurdity of like who's waiting

759
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 3: in the wings and all that comes into play. I

760
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 3: think John Jones at that point it's you know, they're

761
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 3: firing pistols at his feet.

762
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: Like if you want to come back, that's your guy

763
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: you have to face.

764
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 2: Can it be helped along? I was going to ask

765
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 2: you who asked? And all? Let's say he knocks out

766
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 2: Gone in the second round, he's going to have a

767
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 2: call out? Ready, what do you call out in that spot?

768
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 2: Do you say?

769
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: F you John?

770
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 2: You had your chance Poeton. You want to fight for

771
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 2: the heavyweight title, become the three division champion. I'm your guy,

772
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 2: meet me at the way?

773
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: How small for him to do that?

774
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 5: Well?

775
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 2: Because you but also you don't want to be left

776
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 2: out of a Jones Pereira super fight. So do you

777
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 2: call out John?

778
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 7: Like?

779
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: What do you are? Do you call it? I don't

780
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: think you call out a name. I mean, if you

781
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: want to, you can.

782
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 4: I don't know about John, But then you call it

783
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 4: Poeton or whatever you want.

784
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 2: That's a trolling job, James.

785
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 4: What you do You put the ball in the UFC's

786
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 4: court and you say, I've seen what Morob has done.

787
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 4: I want to do that at heavyweight. I had one

788
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 4: fight in twenty twenty four. This division's been on ice

789
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 4: and I'm here to thaw it out. Man, make me active,

790
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 4: put me back in there in three months, and I

791
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 4: feel like you'll kind of get this resolved to a degree.

792
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 2: Jones, get your shit together along. I don't look before

793
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 2: we give our predictions, we want to hear your betting

794
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 2: analysis here. You do have gone as a big for

795
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 2: a title fight. There's a pretty big underdo. Is there

796
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: any value in going surreal Gone?

797
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 5: It's just you guys talked about all the unknowns of aspinall.

798
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 5: You just can't put your money on cereal gun in

799
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 5: this position.

800
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 1: Reliable not to mention the blades injury.

801
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 3: Remember fifteen seconds in like that always comes into play

802
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 3: on heavyweight, Like guys can get it hurt exactly.

803
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 5: I took Tom Aspinal in a parlay. It is a

804
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 5: very chalky parlay, But you know, you gotta do what

805
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 5: you gotta do here. I kind of want to dabble

806
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 5: with a serial gun bet, but I don't think this

807
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 5: goes the distance, so I don't think it's even worth it.

808
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: What's the what's the parlay?

809
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 5: The parlay is aspinall money line or money line blessed

810
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 5: pc and over two and a half in the Comaine

811
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 5: it's plus one fifteen pc allergic tors.

812
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 2: I am very much so lt I want to go

813
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 2: to you first. How does this fight end? Who wins?

814
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 4: Probably aspinall, probably second or third round, probably TKO stoppage.

815
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 4: That doesn't mean it's on the feet, could be on

816
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 4: the ground pounding him out, you know.

817
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: But I like.

818
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 4: Again, I mean, if he goes in there and gets Chinn,

819
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 4: would you be like wow, I never saw that coming.

820
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 4: But I don't think that's the likeliest outcoming.

821
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 2: Or if he gases out in a back and forth

822
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 2: perioded kickboxing.

823
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,280
Speaker 4: But do you know, like Cyril Gon has good cardio,

824
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 4: but not amazing cardio, Like that's not a thing stuff.

825
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 2: It's like, look at who we're relying on. He's coming

826
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 2: here off of the worst scenario in circumstances.

827
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 4: God is the kind of guy that looks real good

828
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 4: when you're fundamentals when the opponents fundamentals are real bad. Sure,

829
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 4: because he can he has athleticism, and there are certain

830
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 4: dimensions of the game that he can be quite technical,

831
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 4: like with the jab and then angling off.

832
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: He looks pretty good. I don't think Aspinall's that guy.

833
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 4: I think Aspinall's probably And by the way, Aspinall you know,

834
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 4: so I'm sure you watch the countdown for UC three

835
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 4: twenty one where he's like, I've not been competing, but

836
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 4: I've definitely been working steadily, steadily, curious.

837
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: To see what he's got. I'm gonna say, I'm gonna

838
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: say third round stoppers, Tom Hospital Chuck.

839
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 2: There's a rumor that you've been watching episode of episode

840
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 2: one of UFC three twenty one embedded on like loop.

841
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: I haven't even seen it, but I draw these strange parallels, so.

842
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 2: I try to think that says it right there.

843
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, what's that? So here we go.

844
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: What's a better episode one?

845
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 5: Oh?

846
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 2: You didn't see. No, it was like UFC's attempt to

847
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 2: cash in on Durn's high value.

848
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 3: Two minutes of the pool right, So it sounds like

849
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 3: I will at least then they follow her from behind

850
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,439
Speaker 3: like they did the full they put her in the thumb.

851
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 3: I always want to draw these parallels because I think

852
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 3: that the heavyweight division is finally like you know, you

853
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 3: talk about heavyweight traditionally in any kind of combat world,

854
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 3: it's the sport like it's that's the division, right, And

855
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 3: I feel like you compare this with Innghanu kind of

856
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 3: out there and John Jones out there, and you have

857
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 3: Aspinall to the seventies in boxing where it was like

858
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 3: you had all these guys and I keep seeing Cyril

859
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 3: Gone as like this Ron Mile or Jimmy Young type figure, right,

860
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 3: like a guy who's always fighting those guys, but he's

861
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 3: not beating him. And I feel like that's where maybe

862
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 3: this is. This is like the romantic side of like

863
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 3: how you look at the game. But I'm like, I

864
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 3: feel like that Aspinall is in that spot to kind

865
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 3: of like say this is a real era of something happening,

866
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 3: and he can be that guy When he says that

867
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 3: he's been training and he's not letting his guard down

868
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 3: all that, I really believe him. So I'm definitely taking aspiral.

869
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 3: I think it happens fairly early within two rounds.

870
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask, we're all taking aspiral. I'm taking

871
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 2: him by t KO stoppage. I'm just wondering will it

872
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: come in round three where we get to see him

873
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 2: pushed at least to a point we've never seen.

874
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: You have to work for it.

875
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 2: But the more I think about it, the more I

876
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 2: watch count on, the more I just like, really look

877
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 2: at tape. I'm like, nah, bra, this is the second round.

878
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 2: If that you guys.

879
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: Have heard it designated gon a donk some what are

880
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: you guys calling him? You got? I just called him

881
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 1: count okay, count Donkyla.

882
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:33,919
Speaker 3: I mean if he goes in there and he gets

883
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 3: smoked in the first round, I think he'll earn that

884
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 3: nickname because that's this is the one thing that everybody's like, Okay,

885
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 3: the suspense of this fight is what happens if it

886
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 3: goes a little deeper into the fight.

887
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 2: And he's like, no, I'll show you that I can

888
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 2: take him out in round one. That's where I was like, hey, dude, like, yeah,

889
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

890
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, he could you make more noise?

891
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I got a running nose here.

892
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

893
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 2: I have a cough button for a reason, Cocaine. Let's

894
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 2: go to our main event and the build to get

895
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 2: here to the vacant women's strawweight title bout is brought

896
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,800
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897
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,720
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898
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,359
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899
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 2: up next pay per view at MSG to challenge Valentina

900
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 2: chef Chenko and a flyweight super ish type of fight,

901
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 2: but what it has left behind is a wide open

902
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 2: division at the one one five Verna Jangeroba is what

903
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 2: five and one since she lost a decision to Mackenzie

904
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: Durned back in twenty twenty. Dern, on the other hand,

905
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 2: is five and four and has been as inconsistent as possible,

906
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 2: yet has shown I think at times much higher flashes

907
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 2: of a ceiling compared to the steady, technical, well rounded

908
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 2: game of Janderoba Long Island. Look, can we get her

909
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 2: odds on this one? Right now?

910
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 6: I got him ready to go right here? Uh No,

911
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 6: I don't, I X out of it.

912
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, give me what well?

913
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 2: I might have it well Durn's the favorite here. That's

914
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 2: where I wanted to is the favorite.

915
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: Yes, oh I know for DraftKings. No, I don't have it. Sorry,

916
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 1: all right, I have it. I have it.

917
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 5: It is jener Roba plus one fifty oh sorry, plus

918
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 5: one thirty during minus one fifty.

919
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,439
Speaker 2: So it's getting closer. But still, even though Mackenzie Durton

920
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 2: won a three run unanimous decision over Jangeroba twenty twenty,

921
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 2: they're to me, they're well, they're much different in their

922
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 2: evolution sense then. But you had an alternate take. You

923
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 2: said Durn has evolved more since then, and I disagree

924
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 2: with that.

925
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 8: Yeo.

926
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not sure you've made a compelling argument

927
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 4: when we're talking about this pre pre show. The thing

928
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 4: is like I watched the first fight and like, god,

929
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 4: Durn seems so.

930
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 2: Raw.

931
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: I mean, justment yeah, just I remember.

932
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 4: That she just kind of throws herself into these exchanges,

933
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 4: like literally like like loses balance or just kind of

934
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 4: throws punches. There's no setup, there's no fainting, there's no

935
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 4: thoughtfulness to it's just clashing. It's just two rams colliding

936
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 4: and she kind of out physically. I mean, there was

937
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 4: obviously some skill on the ground or whatnot. But she

938
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 4: kind of out physical gener Roba. And now to the

939
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 4: point you raise, ginger Roba hit her with that sort

940
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 4: of kick that ended up being a knee that broke

941
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 4: her nose in around two. Dern, that fight many other

942
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 4: ones has shown us pretty good bearing under fire, her

943
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 4: ability to maintain composure quite good, and then on the

944
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 4: ground obviously is still going to be superior to ginger Roba.

945
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: I think you're right, BC.

946
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 4: I would say that the way in which she kind

947
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 4: of ginger Roba has like polished her game, put it

948
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:29,720
Speaker 4: together a little.

949
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: She can wrestle a little bit more.

950
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 4: I just feel like, I guess what I would say

951
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 4: is this, maybe I'll dial it back or change it

952
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 4: a little bit too. I feel like Dern has cleaned

953
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 4: up some of the more egregious things that she was doing.

954
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,760
Speaker 4: If you watch that fight. To your point, though, there's

955
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 4: like a level of technical I don't know, I don't

956
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 4: know what the word would be, but.

957
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 2: But there's there's a dunk presence. I hate.

958
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 4: It's amazing that, like her wrestling has kind of struggled

959
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 4: as long as it has, although it's gotten better of late.

960
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 4: It's kind of interesting she never really worked on a job,

961
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 4: despite the fact she worked with a good boxing coaches.

962
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 1: Have you noticed her.

963
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 2: Striking can vary from fight to fight. She can either

964
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 2: be locked in and technical notice or she can get

965
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 2: thrown off base early and it becomes a wild.

966
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 4: Bro Here's the question you have to ask yourself, is again,

967
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 4: to the extent that the first fight means anything to

968
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 4: the second one? She Deurn was much more physical of

969
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 4: the two, with some exception, but in general, you know,

970
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 4: just kind of like was the one pressing the action

971
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 4: literally walking into Jenji Robo. If she tries to be

972
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 4: too technical this time, might she limit her offense to

973
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 4: such a degree that Jenji Roba can make it close,

974
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 4: you know, and then potentially take a decision like is

975
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 4: there a case to be made that, like, you know,

976
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 4: maybe a little bit of maybe you.

977
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 1: Don't need to be too technically savvy with.

978
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 4: This one, just kind of throw offense with volume and

979
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,919
Speaker 4: then pressure and then let that kind of take take

980
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 4: it the its course.

981
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: I don't know the answer.

982
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 2: Look, I guess I can understand Durham being favored if

983
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 2: you look at it as she's the higher finishing potential

984
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 2: of the two, right, incredible submission game. She also at

985
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 2: times when she's locked in, can really find a home

986
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 2: for that right hand. But on the flip side, Durn

987
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 2: caught up with a friend of the program, Shaquille Masouri.

988
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:08,479
Speaker 2: I don't know if he text you often and.

989
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: Not too often?

990
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 2: Okay, she said one thing that that that he brought

991
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 2: up I thought was interesting. She said, I'm glad this

992
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 2: is not a fight against Jung Way Lee because I

993
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 2: don't feel like I'm ready for that right now. I

994
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 2: feel like I would need a few more fights. And

995
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 2: I get that if you're just straight up comparing to

996
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 2: her opponent in Janderopa who in her mind, she's like,

997
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 2: I already beat her four years ago or five years ago.

998
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 2: That should be fine. But I think that explains that

999
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 2: the tepid nature I have in seeing Duran has the

1000
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 2: betting favorite here, even she realizes she's not quite there yet.

1001
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 2: And if she's not quite there yet, even though Jander

1002
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 2: Rooba is unassuming thirty seven years old, that doesn't mark,

1003
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 2: you know, isn't marketing on the same level. She's solid, steady,

1004
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 2: well rounded and has gotten better fight by fight as

1005
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 2: her confidence. She's got her eye on the prize right now.

1006
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 2: Without question.

1007
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 3: It's in the you know, and how we perceived McKenzie

1008
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 3: Dern coming up is that we always thought at some point,

1009
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 3: because she was a darling within our industry and especially

1010
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 3: within the UC, that she would be given a title shot.

1011
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: It always felt like they were kind of.

1012
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 3: Working her into that spot, like they gave her some

1013
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 3: big fights, but then she would kind of come up

1014
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 3: short or whatever. I do agree that she has been

1015
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 3: kind of inconsistent but mostly improving.

1016
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: As we go on.

1017
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 3: Jean Deeroba is weird because I probably would have picked

1018
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 3: Dern very easily in this fight if I didn't just

1019
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 3: watch the Jan John Non fight with where Vernon basically

1020
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 3: like dominated her.

1021
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 2: Verne's gotten tougher in me, That's what.

1022
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like I think, and there's there's a little

1023
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 3: I remember. She used to call herself the female Damien Maya.

1024
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 3: She use to say that she wanted. And the thing

1025
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 3: that's crazy about it is I can see that parallel

1026
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 3: in that Damien was a very cerebral kind of fighter.

1027
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 3: He approached it almost like a pacifist. What he was like,

1028
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 3: how can I do inflict? How can I finish this

1029
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 3: guy without inflicting a lot of damage. She's not exactly

1030
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 3: like that, but she's super tough in the way that

1031
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 3: he was. And I think that she He's very cerebral,

1032
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 3: and she's actually very teachable even though she's in her

1033
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 3: late thirties at this point. Like if you've watched her

1034
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 3: from fight to fight, you just see this escalation of

1035
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 3: what she's been able to do, and that's what makes

1036
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 3: it fascinateing. I just think that both of them are

1037
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 3: completely different athletes from where they were, you know, whenever

1038
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 3: they fought, was it four or five years ago? They're

1039
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 3: just in a completely different thing. Now You're like, Okay,

1040
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 3: who's picked up more? Who wants it more? And it's

1041
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 3: tough to go against gender open this one, Like it's

1042
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 3: tough because she's looked so good to me.

1043
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 2: Of the four losses that Dearn has had since their

1044
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 2: first fight, Danger Roba has faced three of those fighters

1045
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 2: and beaten them all like that. It's sort of if

1046
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 2: does momentum matter or is darn ultimately gonna always be

1047
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 2: feast or famine. So we have to bet and predict

1048
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 2: this fight based upon whether we think this is a

1049
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: feasting night, whether we think, you know, I feel like

1050
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 2: she fights better when the odds are against her, right,

1051
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 2: because every time it looks like she's about to make

1052
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 2: it there, she has a stumble, and then she always

1053
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 2: tends to bounce back in a big way. She's on

1054
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: a two fight win streak. This fight isn't about bouncing back.

1055
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 2: This fight is about finally living up to those expectations.

1056
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 2: So does the question come down? I don't think as

1057
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 2: much it's skill for skill. I think it's can durn

1058
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 2: handle the big moment? That's what I'm looking at here.

1059
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 4: I mean I don't. Yeah, I'll tell you what. It's

1060
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 4: rare that I listened to you and you're very persuasive.

1061
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 4: You're actually very persuasive on that.

1062
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 2: I was not persuasive with women in my twenties.

1063
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, in this particular case, this is pretty persuasive.

1064
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:22,280
Speaker 1: I do think.

1065
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 4: Your belief about why Jjur Robble lost the first fight

1066
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 4: is because she just didn't quite understand what she could do.

1067
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 2: She said she lost complete confidence in her game when

1068
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 2: she lost two times in three fights to Hebas and

1069
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 2: to Dern.

1070
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you think she'd lose to Hebos today?

1071
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 2: I don't, No, no, no, Hebus has regressed.

1072
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think she's certainly surpassed it.

1073
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 7: You know.

1074
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 4: It's also interesting she said something she compared herself not

1075
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 4: in terms of achievements, but in terms of inspiration. She

1076
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 4: took something from Charles Lavera where she said, you know,

1077
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 4: I thought champions had to be these undefeated you know,

1078
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 4: like Saint Pierre was't undefeata, but you know, something like that.

1079
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 4: To be a champion, it turns out you can make

1080
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 4: mistakes right and then iron it out and be real great.

1081
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 4: And so she kind of feels like she wants to

1082
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 4: borrow from that tradition now to that point, Dern would

1083
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 4: also kind of be of that mid the game is.

1084
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 2: This week that she she's comparing herself to a Lavera

1085
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 2: right where he was up and down, up and down,

1086
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 2: then came to.

1087
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 1: The got get all together.

1088
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 4: The difference with Dran is that she's still it's no

1089
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 4: longer the case, but she's been living in the shadow

1090
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 4: of Ronda Rousey expectations, yes, for so freaking long, and

1091
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 4: now they've kind of dropped away. But you know, when

1092
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 4: she was coming up, you see, Chuck, that was that

1093
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 4: was that the the the comparisons were ever present at

1094
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 4: that time.

1095
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean even you think back to some

1096
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 3: of the people who are in the same kind of

1097
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 3: unfair treatment, which was like you know, the Rose Nami Unises,

1098
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 3: there was other I felt like it was just an

1099
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 3: impossible bar to go in there and do this. What

1100
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,439
Speaker 3: we're seeing though, is that you have to like earn

1101
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 3: it over the course of time. And I mean there

1102
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 3: was a there was a point, like you mentioned she

1103
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 3: was she's been five and four since the and I

1104
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 3: think over the last eight she's four and four, which

1105
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 3: is not really the credentials.

1106
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 1: But there's rare that you can look at somebody and say, like, she's.

1107
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 3: Made really good progress and like improved in a four

1108
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 3: and four run. But I think that you can because

1109
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 3: she's been fighting very tough competition.

1110
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: But it's just.

1111
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 2: Though, and I think that's a good thing because when

1112
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: she would not have him suddenly and then I think,

1113
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 2: didn't she have a boyfriend that was training her like

1114
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 2: for a couple of fights in a row and now,

1115
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 2: but like, wouldn't you say.

1116
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: Parolas, anyway, you're good man, thank you for just kidding.

1117
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 2: Wouldn't you say, like that has brought out the best

1118
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 2: in her? When she's listening to Perilo's striking game plan

1119
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 2: and breaking it down.

1120
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 4: I tend to think that the advice he gives her

1121
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 4: is good. I don't know exactly what kind of training

1122
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 4: room that they have. I'm not saying it's a beat

1123
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 4: or good. I'm simply I just have no way of knowing.

1124
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 4: But I do feel like the kinds of things that

1125
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 4: Perillo can impart are the kinds of things that Dern needs.

1126
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,240
Speaker 1: You know, I think you, I think you really stated

1127
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: it really well.

1128
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 4: Be see which is that like these these moments where

1129
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 4: she puts it together, puts it together, It's like.

1130
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: Okay, right, let's get it well, and then.

1131
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 2: It's just Angela Hill though. To be fair, and I

1132
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 2: want to dude, I I want to see people fulfill

1133
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 2: their potential. I've always wanted to see her get to

1134
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 2: this level. I'm just saying this fight, I don't have

1135
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 2: the confidence.

1136
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 3: I think that Mackenzie Dern has always carried something of

1137
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 3: the novelty, right like she came from a very.

1138
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 1: She was very strong.

1139
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 3: Remember everybody's like, oh, it's a fake, she's not even American,

1140
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 3: or remember she has she's not Brasilian.

1141
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: Remember this whole thing.

1142
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,439
Speaker 4: PC is one of these people who believe that she's

1143
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 4: been on a year's long campaign to have a muddled

1144
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,760
Speaker 4: and somewhat fake accent for purposes that make no sense

1145
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 4: other than generating Internet mind.

1146
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: She smokes two pex editions, speaks exactly exactly.

1147
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 2: Do you know what father's nickname is, Mega Ton, which

1148
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 2: is what they call Lucas.

1149
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 3: But I do think that she carries that novelty into

1150
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,919
Speaker 3: her time, like there's something about her general perception where

1151
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 3: people still see her this way. I think this is

1152
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 3: the moment if she's going to show up and ever

1153
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 3: do away with that for this is the time, like

1154
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,240
Speaker 3: it would be the moment, right.

1155
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 2: But Chuck, you have spoused upon us one of the

1156
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 2: greatest theories that proved true of all time that maybe

1157
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 2: it wasn't Sonya's story all along drinking thing, maybe it

1158
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 2: was Pooton.

1159
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, it maybe was.

1160
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 2: This was Vena Janderdobas who story. I'm trying to pronounce

1161
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 2: it correctly. And you know she's gonna have one eye

1162
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 2: on her opponent, one eye on the title.

1163
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 3: I mean, no, I don't know, Thanks guys.

1164
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: I joked that we're gonna get fired. I don't think

1165
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:37,760
Speaker 1: I'm joking today.

1166
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 2: What I'm really trying to say, is this is Janderobah's moment.

1167
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 2: I think that she is going to be the perfect

1168
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 2: the perfect kryptonite for whatever Durren tries to do. We

1169
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 2: go five rounds, You've got a new champion. Whether you're

1170
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 2: ready for it or not, you got a new champion.

1171
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 2: And she would have earned it without going through Waylee,

1172
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 2: but she would have earned.

1173
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 3: Who's the better story to win this? You have somebody

1174
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 3: who's perseveringly d her age?

1175
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: Is it Dern?

1176
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 2: No, it's it's well, I mean better.

1177
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: When you say better, what does that mean? Meaning? Like,

1178
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,720
Speaker 1: you know, Jean de Roba is more of a woodwork figure.

1179
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 3: I don't think that people really saw her coming up

1180
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,959
Speaker 3: until the moment she's got there right like thirty seven

1181
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 3: years old. We've talked about the thirty five year old

1182
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 3: threshold a million times. So like she gets into this position,

1183
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 3: her breaking through at this point. Is that a better

1184
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 3: story than Mackenzie Dern, who we've all had her eyes

1185
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 3: on the whole time, and you're like, wow, look she

1186
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 3: finally grew up in front of our eyes and she

1187
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 3: won a title.

1188
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 1: Depends what you want.

1189
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 4: If you wanted the golden child who who finally became great,

1190
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 4: then you you would The answer is Dern. But you

1191
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 4: know the kid who had some sort of physical limitation

1192
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 4: that BC mocked ruthlessly, ruthlessly just now I'm.

1193
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 2: Talking about her passion and focus on this.

1194
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure you were in any case,

1195
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,280
Speaker 4: But who defied bullying and you know, to a degree

1196
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 4: of poverty to overcome all that? I mean, they're they're

1197
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 4: they're they're interesting stories for very different reasons, you know.

1198
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder if if the winner is going to

1199
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,479
Speaker 2: give Tatiana Suarez an opportunity to tell another interest story

1200
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 2: of coming back, you know what I mean? Because this

1201
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 2: division feels that wide open without without Wayley Jong. But

1202
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 2: does Jean come back if she loses to Valentine? I

1203
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 2: don't know about that.

1204
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: Right Hmmm, what do you think? I don't know.

1205
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 4: That's a that's a tough thing. That's a great question.

1206
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,240
Speaker 4: We all have to see you during the media cycles.

1207
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 4: That's that's because I would pick her to beat anyone

1208
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 4: in that division right now.

1209
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what she wants though, you know, all right, I.

1210
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 2: Got Genderoba by decision. How are you going?

1211
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 4: I have to tell you, BC, you have been very

1212
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 4: convincing on this one. I will listen to you. I

1213
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 4: think that, uh, I think your points are pretty good,

1214
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 4: and I'll ride.

1215
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: The same same position. I think it's jihon de Roba.

1216
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 3: I just think it's just I just think that, like

1217
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 3: for what we talked about, like she has shown that

1218
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:43,720
Speaker 3: she's ready for this moment.

1219
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 2: You know, someone ride the train. Yeah, Osborne cho cho,

1220
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

1221
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 1: Just take some time.

1222
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,920
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1228
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1229
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1230
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1234
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Speaker 2: right now. This is the ultimate fan give away. More

1235
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 2: interesting fights on this main card will go to the

1236
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 2: bandamweight division. Umar and Namaga Medoff lost despite being the

1237
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 2: betting favorite his title fight against Morob Devalishvilli in January

1238
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 2: at UFC three eleven. But as he told me this week,

1239
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 2: he said, look, I didn't gass out against Morob. I

1240
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 2: broke my left hand, and he said, there's science behind this.

1241
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 2: It sends adrenaline to that part of your body. It

1242
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 2: pulls from your gas tank. He says, look, I think

1243
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 2: I won that fight, but that wasn't the best of me.

1244
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,399
Speaker 2: Even if he gets past the streaking Mario Bautista, who's

1245
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 2: riding an eight fight win streak on Saturday, that he

1246
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 2: will get that second chance at the winner of Morob

1247
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 2: versus Piotran in December. The odds makers overwhelmingly agree with

1248
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 2: that long island. Luke, can you read this for us

1249
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 2: right now please?

1250
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 6: It's minus six twenty five Umar plus four.

1251
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 2: So I thought I was going to be talking more

1252
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 2: about it. But first and foremost, why the disrespect this

1253
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 2: grand to Mario Batista.

1254
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 4: I mean, look, here's the thing. I'm not gonna sit

1255
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 4: here in front and say I'm picking Bautista to win.

1256
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 4: I'm picking Umar to win.

1257
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 1: Probably all of us are.

1258
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 4: I thought Umar was given well, I mean, didn't you

1259
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 4: feel like for most most, for long stretches of the fight,

1260
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 4: particularly early, I thought Umar was given morob real problem.

1261
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 2: He's the only one that can beat him in this division.

1262
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 4: That's what I feel like. That's what I feel like,

1263
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 4: So I'm not about to sit her pick Bautista. However,

1264
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 4: Bautista is a I've been saying this for a while.

1265
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,919
Speaker 4: He's a very good fire. He is hard to look

1266
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 4: good against. That is one of the problems, and sometimes

1267
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 4: we see he's got one of these labor intients, some

1268
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,919
Speaker 4: styles that that is good for winning rounds, but doesn't

1269
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 4: tend to move the fight as further along as you want,

1270
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 4: so he doesn't necessarily win himself. Some fans, the Jose

1271
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 4: Aldo fight looks good on the resume, but then it

1272
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 4: tarnished his reputation because of how he.

1273
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: Was going to say. He may have broke PATCHI Mix.

1274
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 1: I mean, he did a number on PATCHI Mix's. Well, dude,

1275
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:19,280
Speaker 1: the god can fight.

1276
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 4: He is very well schooled, he has tons of energy,

1277
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 4: he's well rounded, but he's limited relative to Umar.

1278
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: In my estimation.

1279
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 4: So I sort of get the odds in the sense

1280
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 4: that it's like no one actually thinks Bautista can win,

1281
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 4: but the odds don't reflect I think how good Bautista

1282
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 4: is at least making Umar work for it. Who I

1283
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 4: suspect this fight will go the distance too, by the way,

1284
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 4: so I don't know.

1285
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting. Umar did tell me that he doesn't

1286
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 2: plan to go for it in this fight. He doesn't

1287
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 2: plan to put himself in a bad spot. He fans

1288
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 2: plans to focus on grappling and submission, submission to get

1289
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 2: him out of there. That's interesting. Do you think we

1290
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 2: how big do you think the advantage on the ground

1291
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 2: for Umar would be? How good is Bautista?

1292
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 3: Because Umar doesn't see I remember him saying like he

1293
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 3: hasn't seen Batista try a single takedown, like he was

1294
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 3: he was going on about this, So I think he

1295
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 3: looks at it like this guy doesn't want any part

1296
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 3: of the ground, and obviously this is where an omaga

1297
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 3: madoff will shine. So I think he looks at it

1298
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 3: like if he's going to have a chance, it's probably

1299
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 3: going to be in the standing realm, and Umar.

1300
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 1: Is just probably not going to play that game.

1301
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 3: So I find it interesting that the line is that

1302
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 3: big if you really look at Umar's resume, like.

1303
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: He you know, he only had a few fights in

1304
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 1: the UFC.

1305
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 3: The biggest fight he had was the ABC card out

1306
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 3: in Abu Dhabi where he fought Corey Sandhagen, and obviously

1307
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 3: he did work against kry Sanhagen. But before then, you know,

1308
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 3: this is probably the best opponent's face outside of Marab, right,

1309
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 3: Like this is outside of Morob and Sanahagen.

1310
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 2: This is the guy station.

1311
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, So in a weird way, I'm like, you know,

1312
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 3: there's still a little bit of a trial here era,

1313
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 3: you know, like where you're like, and I agree with

1314
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:55,399
Speaker 3: everything you're saying.

1315
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 1: We saw him against Marob. I thought he held his own.

1316
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 3: It's a very close fight, like he's the one guy

1317
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 3: who throws doubt I think into like, if you're going

1318
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 3: to have a rematch, that would be the one to have.

1319
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 3: But there's a little bit of like a you know,

1320
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 3: I haven't seen enough of Umar in the division, and

1321
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of Batista and I know what

1322
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 3: he does well, So I feel like that line is

1323
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:14,320
Speaker 3: just kind of skewed.

1324
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 4: I'll also say this, I mean you know, usually if

1325
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 4: you have someone who's like a plus or excuse me,

1326
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 4: a minus six hundred favorite, you're like, well, dude, if

1327
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 4: him beating his opponent means nothing, sorry, a beating Mario

1328
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 4: Bautista's a quality win.

1329
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: If Umar stops.

1330
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 4: Him, this guy's on an eight fight win streak, get

1331
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 4: one hundred and thirty five pounds with some very good

1332
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 4: names on there.

1333
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: If you stop Baltista, that's a very quality win.

1334
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 4: I mean again, I'm not expecting that. I do think

1335
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 4: it will go the distance. I'm just sort of pointing

1336
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 4: out the odds. They sort of make sense, but they

1337
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 4: sort of don't.

1338
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 2: Look, I love this is not an anti Mora brant.

1339
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 2: A healthy Umar, I think is the only person that

1340
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 2: beats him, and I think he does beat him. We

1341
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 2: got to see it. He's got to win this fight.

1342
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 2: Firstro's gonna have to get by PODi Ya, which is

1343
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 2: your guy.

1344
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: You've given up on him, Uh, but I love you do.

1345
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 2: I don't know if he can do this in a rematch,

1346
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 2: although he's going to be full of healthy apparently, but

1347
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 2: one time, I mean Long Island. Look, I'm not crazy.

1348
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 2: Umar might be one of the ten best fighters in

1349
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 2: the world right now.

1350
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, as I think Luke said earlier, like Umar is

1351
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 5: the second best guy in this division for sure.

1352
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 6: I just I got to disagree with you. Morob takes

1353
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 6: the rematch.

1354
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: Let's go, oh wow, that's one.

1355
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 2: But that's a long island.

1356
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 3: When I talked to you talked to him this week,

1357
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 3: he basically was like he talked to Umar too, and

1358
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 3: he was like he leans and he's like the secret

1359
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 3: to beat him, Rob, you got to take him down,

1360
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 3: you know, Like he just like it's he's been thinking

1361
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 3: about this. The piece I wrote, I was like, you know,

1362
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 3: he is center in his being right now, Like he

1363
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 3: that's you know, his focus, his focus is on but

1364
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 3: his whole mind is on getting that fight back.

1365
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 1: So I feel how humble he is.

1366
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 2: Then when you talk to his brother Uswan and the PFL,

1367
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 2: he's just like cocky and everything.

1368
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 1: But maybe Umar one time is.

1369
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 2: Going to be the best of them all in this family.

1370
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: You never know. One time, walking in it was think

1371
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,919
Speaker 1: it was the New York, New York. Remember this, We're

1372
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 1: going to ride the road life where so well that

1373
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 1: just a given when you stay there.

1374
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 3: We were walking through the casino, the casino and you

1375
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 3: ran into memory, Chuck, it's.

1376
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 2: Peter do something.

1377
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 1: Was looking at him like who the.

1378
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 2: And we made him take a picture with Brandon Wise

1379
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 2: Sports and was just like.

1380
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 4: This guy visited DC one time and tried his like hey, everybody,

1381
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 4: how what's the deal with that?

1382
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 1: Bombed? He bombed ritualistically and then he's like, God, they

1383
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 1: don't like humor in DC.

1384
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 2: They are the service workers in DC are not friendly.

1385
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 2: Not I'm not so sure about that. Does explain Luke

1386
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 2: Thomas to a certain degree.

1387
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: That I've never been to Valdosta, Connecticut.

1388
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 3: It works, baby, that's like people are nice and yeah

1389
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 3: they are over there in Connecticut.

1390
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got nothing else well educated.

1391
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 2: They paid prices. Yeah you know, there you go.

1392
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 1: How much is gas in Connecticut?

1393
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 2: I actually paid two sixty nine the other day and

1394
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 2: it was like a world record. I can't believe I

1395
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 2: got it for that.

1396
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 1: It's five dollars a gallon in DC.

1397
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 2: Typically three and a half to four in Connecticut right

1398
00:59:58,520 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 2: now is a low period.

1399
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 3: Though, trust and Naugatuck it might be, but not, I

1400
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 3: don't anymore.

1401
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 4: Find the guys using one actually there.

1402
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 2: I cannot fight against these these uh these these statements here.

1403
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 2: So we're all taking Umar here we are.

1404
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah again.

1405
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 4: I respect abouti Stan Ways, and I know the fans

1406
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 4: kind of disrespect him, But I think he's a very.

1407
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 3: Good I mean, over the course of a full fight,

1408
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 3: he'll he'll find the way to wear him down, you know.

1409
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 1: So I feel like that's the pig, all right.

1410
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 2: Alexander Volkoff had brought a four fight redemptive wind streak

1411
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 2: into that December matchup against Cyril Gone. Gone broke his

1412
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 2: foot in the first round. We all thought Volkoff had one.

1413
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 2: Dana White thought Volcoff won and said he'd take.

1414
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: Care of him.

1415
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 2: What that means is a matchup against Johnson Almeda that

1416
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 2: could be basically a number one contender fight for the

1417
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 2: next title shot. Even though Alexander Volkoff is the betting

1418
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 2: underdog here against an Almeida, who is seven and one

1419
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 2: in the UFC. He did followup what was that one

1420
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 2: lost from Mayda fell apart? He got stopped, remember that,

1421
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,439
Speaker 2: thank you? But really, outside of that he has looked great.

1422
01:00:58,440 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 2: What are the updated odds.

1423
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 5: Long Island plus one sixty four Volkov minus one ninety eight.

1424
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 2: Now, look, Volkov's kryptonite has been the ground game, but

1425
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 2: yet like Curtis Blades took him down at will in

1426
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 2: their first fight and then gas himself out doing that.

1427
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 2: There's something about Volkov where you feel like thirty six

1428
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 2: years old that means he's in the midst of his

1429
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 2: heavyweight prime. Inevitably, he's going to get to a title shot.

1430
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 2: He does have those skills. Whether he wins that or

1431
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 2: not depends on the opponent. There's still some slowness to

1432
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 2: his game. There's still problems in his game. He's got

1433
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 2: the long hair right now, which just trying to tell

1434
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 2: me something here. I still feel like Volkov can get

1435
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 2: this done, even as an underdog. But Luke Almeida's takedown

1436
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 2: game is pretty serious. Can he counteract that?

1437
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 4: This fight actually kind of rules because Volkov should be

1438
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 4: in the title of picture.

1439
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 1: But he's not.

1440
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 4: And we all know we've been over this point. You know,

1441
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 4: I watched some table on Almeida in preparation for today's show.

1442
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 4: I forgot during that Spivak fight he was kind of lighting.

1443
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 1: Him up on the feet.

1444
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 4: Now that did have long stretches on the ground, both

1445
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:58,919
Speaker 4: where he was dealing and then being dealt.

1446
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 2: He doesn't commit to a striking enough.

1447
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 1: I think that might be right.

1448
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 4: I think there's an argument to be made that there's

1449
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 4: a little bit more he could be doing, except you know,

1450
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 4: Spivak also wanted to engage in the ground, so that

1451
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 4: kind of complicated it.

1452
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 1: But he looked a little more fluid.

1453
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 4: The problem is, though you have to imagine, you know,

1454
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 4: Almeida's path to winning rounds and dare I say the

1455
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 4: fight itself probably does not lead through striking, right, He's

1456
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 4: gonna have a hard time closing that distance. Bullkov is slow,

1457
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 4: He's he's talented, but slow, you know, al Mata and

1458
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 4: he uses it like he does, know what I mean,

1459
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 4: Like if you're going to play this game, tough game

1460
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 4: to play.

1461
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 2: And he's not a lamb on the ground outside of

1462
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 2: that quick submission lost ask but all he's pretty strong

1463
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 2: on the ground.

1464
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 1: Yes he is.

1465
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 4: If there's anything he's rapidly improved, uh insteadily maybe he's

1466
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 4: a better way to put it, but certainly it's a

1467
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 4: ground game, as you indicated. Absolutely, remember Gon was trying

1468
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 4: some stuff underneath him and tried to that ankle lock

1469
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 4: and couldn't get shit going. That's not for nothing that

1470
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 4: there's something to be said for that. But BC, you

1471
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 4: just have to realistically imagine if your almeta, what is

1472
01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 4: your path to victory? It has to be some kind

1473
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 4: of back exposure or top control. It has to be.

1474
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 4: And so the question is, like, we got like Volkov BC,

1475
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 4: who is sturdy with some of this stuff and certainly

1476
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 4: much you would imagine he's going to be very aware

1477
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 4: of the threat. Can he do what Blades did, which

1478
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 4: is you get taken down, taken down, you get messed up,

1479
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,959
Speaker 4: taken down, but you kind of just waited out until

1480
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 4: he doesn't really have the same kind of zip and pop,

1481
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 4: and then you put it on him and then he

1482
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 4: just completely falls to shit. It's a it's a workable blueprint.

1483
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 4: I think when we.

1484
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 2: Talked about the argument earlier of whether the heavyweight championship

1485
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 2: will get devalued again if John Jones comes back against Poton,

1486
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 2: does the fact that Volkov has lost twice to Gone

1487
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 2: and once dominantly to aspinall play into the idea that

1488
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 2: he could get passed over for this or not?

1489
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 3: I mean, do we believed that Dana is like put

1490
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 3: it in his back pocket, is like I owe you

1491
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 3: one man because you got robbed and that.

1492
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 1: Do we believe this?

1493
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 3: Because then you're like one not right, So yeah, yeah,

1494
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 3: But I mean this is we started this off. We

1495
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 3: went through the scenarios as to who who, what this

1496
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 3: means for the heavweight division of Espinall wins.

1497
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 1: All this stuff we'd never even mentioned. Really.

1498
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 3: We did mention Jelton Almeida as being a fresh blood

1499
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 3: because he's the only guy who hasn't lost already to Aspinall.

1500
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 3: But the guy that we're not actually mentioning is Volkov.

1501
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 1: Right.

1502
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 3: If he's able to do the work and he goes

1503
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 3: in there and does it, it'd be very tough for

1504
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 3: the UFC to kind of push him aside as well.

1505
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 3: But at the same time, that is not going to

1506
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 3: be the sexiest matchup, Like that's it's just the way

1507
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 3: it is in Jailton Almeida too. I was going to

1508
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 3: ask you, guys, like, have we ever seen a guy

1509
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 3: in his position? Maybe we have that in the heavyweight

1510
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 3: division who's in that kind of position where he's kind

1511
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 3: of flirting with the title one fight away, perhaps with

1512
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 3: less kind of like name brand, because I mean, honestly

1513
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,479
Speaker 3: like his I feel like if you mention his name

1514
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 3: to somebody who's kind of a.

1515
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 2: Casual, Yeah, fan.

1516
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 1: They do not even know him.

1517
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 4: You know, dude, I remember when when Volkov got bodied

1518
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 4: in Bellator by Vitaliti Minikov, which was Minikov was like

1519
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 4: the guy a long ast time ago, and now where

1520
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 4: is he? Like, look at the difference. It's kind of insane.

1521
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 4: He's to anyone who's been paying attention to m A

1522
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 4: for ten or years or so, he's been around doing

1523
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 4: pretty relevant stuff, but he's never gone like, oh shit, wow, amazing.

1524
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 2: He's lost the fight before the title fight, like multiple

1525
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 2: multiple times, one against Derek Lewis that he would have

1526
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 2: gotten a time shot out.

1527
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 1: Remember, the thing is all the way, he's winning the

1528
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 1: whole time.

1529
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 4: The thing is, though he keeps hammering, he keeps signing

1530
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 4: up for a chance at another crack at it, and

1531
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 4: you gotta wonder, like what point, maybe he won't break

1532
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 4: through all the way, but he will break through to

1533
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 4: a UFC title fight. You know people who are persevering

1534
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 4: if you just keep asking.

1535
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 2: I think he gets out of this. I think he

1536
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 2: gets himself to the title level with a win here.

1537
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 2: It's not going to be easy, tough fight, but if

1538
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 2: Almeida tries to strike for strike with him, I think

1539
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 2: it could be a problem here with that long jab,

1540
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna have.

1541
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:47,439
Speaker 4: I agree with that, but that push kick, that would

1542
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 4: he used the push kick on a guy wants to.

1543
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 1: Take him down to be shocked. I'd be shocked if

1544
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 1: Al made it like played that game for long, you know?

1545
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I made him might like in transition

1546
01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 4: for certain periods. But dude, again, if you're on do

1547
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 4: you think you're gonna win a striking battle with this guy?

1548
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 1: You're gonna get? Shoot?

1549
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 2: You might because you just stop speed vacuum might long Island,

1550
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 2: Luke Benning Wise, you're taking the plus money on Volkov?

1551
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 5: Hell yeah, I got him at plus two hundred too.

1552
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 5: I think I like the odds on that a lot more.

1553
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 5: He's plus one sixty four. Now, don't love it as much,

1554
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 5: but uh yeah, if you can get him at a

1555
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 5: like plus one seventy five or higher, I think it's

1556
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 5: worth updates.

1557
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 4: Oh I'm feeling these yes yes about It's almost time

1558
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 4: for a third Quervo shot here.

1559
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 2: Oh, let's talk about the opener of the main card.

1560
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 2: Alexander Rackage trusted contender. You love this fight yet riding

1561
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 2: a three fight losing skido against the league competition, but

1562
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 2: it's still thirty two right in the you know, we

1563
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 2: still haven't seen the best of him, as what I'm

1564
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 2: trying to say, but he's facing an Osamotmersa Kanoff who

1565
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 2: is fifteen and oh such a thinkless way, but yet

1566
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 2: it hasn't maybe fought the highest level yet. So long Island. Look,

1567
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 2: let's space with the oddst.

1568
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 6: You want the odd? Yeah, yeah, dude, minus one ten.

1569
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 6: It's to pick him right now.

1570
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 2: Okay, So so they are looking at this. How good

1571
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 2: to start off, Chuck is Murza Khanoff. How impressed are

1572
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 2: you by his performance?

1573
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 1: I'm been very impressed.

1574
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 3: I mean he's undefeated right like fifteen to zero, and

1575
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 3: the so far in the UFC, he's looked very good.

1576
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 3: I think most of his fights have been finishes.

1577
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:15,439
Speaker 1: Good gentlemen right here.

1578
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I do feel like that this is the

1579
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 3: guy that you got to. This is the litmus test,

1580
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:23,439
Speaker 3: right Like you get a guy like Racka who came

1581
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 3: gun blazing out of the gate. I think he won

1582
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 3: like five or six of his first like seven fights,

1583
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 3: and he was just on a roll. And remember the

1584
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 3: Jimmy Manuel when he was smoking those guys deadcare Yeah,

1585
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 3: Devin Clark. I remember he was knocking these guys out

1586
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 3: and there was a moment I was like, this guy's

1587
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 3: just a matter of time until he's fighting for a title.

1588
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 3: And obviously he's fought some really tough dudes and he

1589
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 3: overcame some injuries and some time off. He's kind of

1590
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 3: in that weird situation talking about rackage where it's like

1591
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 3: you're on a three fight skid. Either you're winning and

1592
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,439
Speaker 3: you put yourself back into that spot, or you could

1593
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 3: be possibly on the ice floor.

1594
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 1: You know, it's like it's way too good.

1595
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 2: To lose four in a row, and it's a weird situation,

1596
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 2: way too good.

1597
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: So is it just coming into his prime really too

1598
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 1: injuries and facing better Competitionately he changed teams.

1599
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 4: I think that was part of it. He was training

1600
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 4: out of Vienna, Austria for a long time.

1601
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 1: Go ahead to your shot.

1602
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna you know, I was gonna throw

1603
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 2: this shot to Brian Caraway. It gets a bad rap

1604
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:19,680
Speaker 2: for the ATV incident, but there are two sides to

1605
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 2: every store.

1606
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 1: You never know, all right.

1607
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 4: I mean I'm not gonna say I hope you die, but.

1608
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 1: You still dating Mishia Tate I don't even know. Is

1609
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 1: that what your dungarees look like after you're done? Pain,

1610
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:42,640
Speaker 1: that's it, We're done. Don't you go dying on me.

1611
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 2: Luke.

1612
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 3: This is the part when we used to do it

1613
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 3: up on the rooftop with the and you never got

1614
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 3: your fire, where we take a walk down to the

1615
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 3: other side.

1616
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 2: I love that until we had a good run right there,

1617
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 2: Luke rackets though we know he's too good to be

1618
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 2: I guess in this spot.

1619
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,639
Speaker 4: No, no, this is I feel like this is real

1620
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:01,839
Speaker 4: good matchmaking. It is to be honest with you, Rackage

1621
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 4: to your point. I mean, go back to USC three hundred.

1622
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 4: He was dealing on Yerie Pradka early in that fight,

1623
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 4: to the point where I was watching with my friend Othello,

1624
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:13,440
Speaker 4: and Othello.

1625
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 1: Was like, oh, you know, he's beating the shit out

1626
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 1: of this guy. He's gonna win, and I was like,

1627
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 1: just wait, just wait.

1628
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 4: But you can understand someone watching that who didn't know

1629
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 4: the broader context being like, dude, this the guy who's

1630
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 4: doing the dealing is really good, as you mentioned the

1631
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 4: Manawa one. And by the way, when he needed to

1632
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:29,599
Speaker 4: wrestle fights to win rounds, he could do.

1633
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 1: That as well. Yes, but he's definitely hit his ceiling

1634
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 1: and he's definitely had some issues.

1635
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 4: I think with defense. That's been a big part of

1636
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 4: his problem. And Murza Khanov, man, here's the thing. He

1637
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 4: was supposed to fight Johnny Walker in his last contest

1638
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 4: and that he got injured, not Murza Khanov, but Walker,

1639
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 4: so they threw in like a last minute subhibero, who

1640
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:49,759
Speaker 4: he just demolished inside of a round. Right, Murza Khanov

1641
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 4: is not the sort of hulking physical athlete that rackages.

1642
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 4: But if go watch the way he moves, fluid, quick,

1643
01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 4: fast footwork, fast hands, combination south Paul by the way,

1644
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 4: He's got so many things that for a guy who

1645
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,759
Speaker 4: is a probably a better overall athlete and certainly beaten

1646
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 4: better guys in rackage.

1647
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 1: But BC he's been off.

1648
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 4: He's had a bad one year, bad knee injuries previously,

1649
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:18,799
Speaker 4: he's changing teams the year. There's a lot of questions

1650
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 4: about where rackage is, and Murza Khanov is like chomping

1651
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 4: at the big somebody like this, Right he is.

1652
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 2: And when I said rackets was too good for this moment,

1653
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 2: I didn't mean the opponent. I meant being on a

1654
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 2: three fight losing skid. But if you look at this,

1655
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 2: really lost four of six overall, and the wins were

1656
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 2: against an aging Anthony Smith and the Thiago Santos who

1657
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 2: left the promotion right after. So he looked and the

1658
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 2: Belhovish loss was a knee injury as well.

1659
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:47,679
Speaker 6: So that Ozdemir loss too was like a very controversial decision.

1660
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:50,959
Speaker 1: Yes, so against un Calia. Granted on Caly's good.

1661
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 2: That was an aggressive big on in that fight, Yes,

1662
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 2: it was.

1663
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:55,879
Speaker 4: And I just felt like he had a good answer

1664
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 4: for the kinds of things that Rackage does.

1665
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 1: Is Kanov that same kind of that.

1666
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:06,599
Speaker 4: I'd already know, But again, dude, he's got a certain

1667
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 4: kind of fa I mean, I'm not comparing him to Fatal,

1668
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:10,520
Speaker 4: but Fader had a certain kind of flow and effortless

1669
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 4: flow and fluidity to his movement, and again rze Khanov

1670
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 4: is not that, but he's got a relative to Rackage

1671
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 4: a little bit more.

1672
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:19,600
Speaker 3: You think it delivers in that spot because obviously the

1673
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 3: US puts it on like the it's the kickoff right

1674
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 3: of the US of the pay per view. Yes, usually

1675
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:26,639
Speaker 3: they want like something that's going to deliver. You feel

1676
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 3: like that's the right choice for like.

1677
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 4: We'll see, here's the thing. If your Rackage, you might

1678
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 4: be looking for the takedown. He's done it in previous

1679
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 4: fights where he needed to win rounds and or fights

1680
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 4: where Zi Khanov's biggest threat is not on the ground.

1681
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,560
Speaker 4: It is absolutely on the feet, particularly at boxing, but

1682
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 4: kickboxing range too. He absolutely has knockout power. And again,

1683
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 4: even if it's not one punch, the fact that he

1684
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 4: throws in combination bop bop, that's when the problems begin

1685
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 4: to emerge.

1686
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 1: It's the one two, the one two three.

1687
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 4: If you're if you're Rackage, I suspect he's gonna be

1688
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:57,879
Speaker 4: hunting the takedown and top control.

1689
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 1: So to your point, is that delivered on the main event?

1690
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 1: Mr Za Khanov is going to have to make it

1691
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 1: a good point.

1692
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:05,680
Speaker 3: It's beare because Rackage might just need to get the win, right,

1693
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 3: Like the bottom line is he just needs to win.

1694
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 1: If your rackets do, losing is absolutely not a option.

1695
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 2: Mr Za Khanoff knocked out Andrea MW Knees in Russia

1696
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 2: on the regional level. Did not know that in.

1697
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 1: These little little bit of count Donkulo as well.

1698
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:21,280
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Speaker 2: look at how this card is going to break down,

1710
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 2: So let's go takedowns. When we look back at this

1711
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 2: main card, Umar and Namaga metof against Mario Bautista three

1712
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 2: and a half takedowns over three rounds, more or less.

1713
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 1: I think more.

1714
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 3: I think more, But it also that that's a weird

1715
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 3: one because it depends on I can Batista just get

1716
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 3: up from whatever the first takedown is right, like or

1717
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 3: like if there's just one and the more has.

1718
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 1: Good top control but not unstoppable.

1719
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 2: Three total in the and a half three and a

1720
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 2: half total in the fight is the is the.

1721
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 1: More in a three round fight, so I would take over.

1722
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 2: I would go over as well. But what about Johnson

1723
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 2: Almeida one and a half one and a half takedown?

1724
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 1: Now it's a three round fight. If it was a

1725
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 1: five round different ball.

1726
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 2: Game, I'm going more for days.

1727
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd take the It doesn't mean he holds them down.

1728
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean, you.

1729
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 1: Know, just taking it.

1730
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:47,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, and by the way, never forget I mean, Volkov

1731
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:49,599
Speaker 4: is a little hard to do this on. But they

1732
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 4: count matt returns as takedowns in MMA, so it's a

1733
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 4: little bit I do. Just get behind, pick them up

1734
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 4: and return them to the mat, and they count that

1735
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 4: as a takedown point, you know.

1736
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 2: So we're talking about total signalsicant strikes? Is the five

1737
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:04,680
Speaker 2: round title byte title bout? McKenzie durned sixty one and

1738
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:07,759
Speaker 2: a half? Well, you put bite in that significant strike

1739
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:12,719
Speaker 2: or less fifteen sixty one and a half over five rounds?

1740
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 2: How many sixty one and a half significant strikes?

1741
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 1: I want to take the less on that, you know what?

1742
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 1: Hold on, let me see that you said sixty one

1743
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 1: and a half.

1744
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:21,839
Speaker 2: Sixty five and a half is the more or less twenty.

1745
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 1: Five and a half?

1746
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 6: Okay, let's see, since she got close to twenty in

1747
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 6: each round of the first fight, so I feel like

1748
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:27,839
Speaker 6: you gotta take the okay.

1749
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 2: But Janderu Robo said at forty four and a half,

1750
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:32,679
Speaker 2: So they really, they really believe that this will be okay.

1751
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 4: So Durn averages three point three strikes landed per minute,

1752
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 4: So for fifteen minutes, that'd be what forty five plus

1753
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 4: some change? They are a lot though, it's a lot.

1754
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 4: And there, I say, what's the over under sixty one

1755
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 4: and a half? That would be over the average for her. Yeah,

1756
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 4: I'll take the under on that.

1757
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 6: I'll take the over on Jender three rounds, I would

1758
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:53,599
Speaker 6: take that last five.

1759
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, what you are a forty four and a

1760
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 3: half for an robe, But I'm taking the over there?

1761
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 1: How silly of me? Okay, then I might take the

1762
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:00,120
Speaker 1: o over.

1763
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:04,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, your boy Raibunschki, you know, mateos forty

1764
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 4: six and a half?

1765
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:08,639
Speaker 1: Significant roh, That motherfucker over for days? He's like cam,

1766
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Speaker 1: who's that? Who's that? Who's the running back for the giants?

1767
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Speaker 1: Camp Scataboos?

1768
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Speaker 4: I mean, my man, I hope he's got a good

1769
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:17,600
Speaker 4: neurologist when his career is over because the way he

1770
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:18,720
Speaker 4: fights is just his way.

1771
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 3: He copeats, so we have to check back when his

1772
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 3: career is over in twenty twenty seven.

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1786
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Speaker 2: interesting options here. As of right now, it looks like

1787
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Speaker 2: the featured prelim will be lightweight Nasrat Hack Press against

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1789
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Speaker 1: What am I doing?

1790
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Speaker 2: What am I saying?

1791
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Speaker 1: Those real?

1792
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Speaker 6: All right?

1793
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Speaker 1: You got to speak, Auzzy.

1794
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:22,680
Speaker 2: If you chuck when you look at the undercard, you

1795
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 2: can go in any direction you want. Where are what

1796
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:25,800
Speaker 2: are you looking at?

1797
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't have that in front of me,

1798
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 1: and I can't see that.

1799
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:31,600
Speaker 4: The big ones are gonna be aram Alaecaoff ticket on

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Speaker 4: Park Junior. That's for Ale Turtle, Aliscao al scale off

1801
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 4: much Alice scare excuse me, much more skilled. But that

1802
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:40,879
Speaker 4: one could be fun for as long as it lasts.

1803
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:44,639
Speaker 4: As we've already indicated Klein and Rob that that should deliver.

1804
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 4: I mean, Ron Bechi is gonna make Clein work for it,

1805
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 4: you know that, super well. Walter Walker taking on Louis

1806
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 4: Sutherland again. This has got heavyweight fun as long as it's.

1807
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:56,600
Speaker 3: Early, because if it goes past a round and a

1808
01:16:56,640 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 3: half at flyweight, Ozot Maxim ticket on Mitchropoe so is

1809
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 3: a is a I've been very impressed by Maxim.

1810
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 2: How about Chris Barnett coming back at have you?

1811
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 1: We let's go?

1812
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:06,680
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean I know that, I know that,

1813
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:09,559
Speaker 4: I know the I know the streets are very very

1814
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 4: streets are.

1815
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 1: I don't care about that.

1816
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 2: You were telling me you were a huge ham d

1817
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 2: Abdelah hobb fan.

1818
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 3: I've been a fan for a while, you know, I

1819
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 3: got a post over my room. But like, this is

1820
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:20,720
Speaker 3: a tough fight for him.

1821
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 1: So who's fighting deep?

1822
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 2: Chris Barnett, Chris Bartnett.

1823
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 1: Oh that's the Barnet.

1824
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 2: What is Barnett's nickname? Bear?

1825
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. Oh beast boy? Did I used to

1826
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 1: watch him on HD net back in the day.

1827
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:38,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. If you guys had

1828
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 2: to guess who steals the headlines? Sorry for touching your

1829
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:45,640
Speaker 2: half drinking glass? Who ultimately who wins UFC three twenty one,

1830
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 2: who steals the headlines? Who is the biggest the referees.

1831
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 1: For doing a bad job?

1832
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 3: Man, that's a little hanging waiting.

1833
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 2: Do you think we get David or Dana White after?

1834
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 2: Is this really what we're doing to try to pick up?

1835
01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:59,439
Speaker 1: I think Dana has been in Saudi Arabia there.

1836
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 2: Stay there for that. But no, really is this this

1837
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 2: is Tom Aspinall's Night, isn't it?

1838
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 3: Ultimately it's set up to be I think I said

1839
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 3: it's set up to be that if you take him

1840
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 3: out of the equation, because I mean that's obviously the

1841
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 3: big return and all this, what do you got there?

1842
01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 3: Like after after you, after asthma. If you just take

1843
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 3: that fight of the equation, who's the well.

1844
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 4: Vina is going to have a moment for Yeah, the

1845
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 4: question I think also Umar if he really has a

1846
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:26,840
Speaker 4: strong performance and then plays it up like Morob, I'm

1847
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:29,639
Speaker 4: coming for you, that could need I think a lot

1848
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 4: of because people want to see Morob tested, whether it's vocal,

1849
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 4: and that has.

1850
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:36,600
Speaker 3: Grown so much even from the first fight, because the

1851
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 3: fanfare of that was kind of mild. It was at

1852
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 3: the beginning of this year, and this guy has been

1853
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 3: on the sideline.

1854
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 1: That whole time.

1855
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 3: While Morob is now breaking records for title defenses in

1856
01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:47,639
Speaker 3: that same catch up.

1857
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 1: With them eventually.

1858
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 2: His when you when guys go on these stretches of

1859
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 2: a lot of fights in short periods of time, sometimes

1860
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 2: they max out their durability, They max out a few

1861
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:56,880
Speaker 2: things in that moment. You know what I'm saying. I

1862
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 2: hope that doesn't catch up with Morob. He seems what

1863
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:01,639
Speaker 2: are we seeing now? He's smarting five to ten rounds

1864
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 2: the day of fights rounds.

1865
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 4: I'm being serious when I say this Rob is in

1866
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:12,639
Speaker 4: terms of durability and cardio. Rob is unlike any fighter

1867
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 4: I've ever covered, even Poloton Finally, who was the standard

1868
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 4: back in the day, Nick or Nate Dia or something

1869
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:20,639
Speaker 4: like that.

1870
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 3: You know, there's nothing that compares to what he's doing

1871
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:24,639
Speaker 3: right now. I was thinking about this because I did

1872
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 3: to call him right afterwards, and You're like, I really

1873
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 3: don't know the equivalent to what he's doing.

1874
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 1: There is none. I've never seen a guy like this.

1875
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 2: Nothing compares Chuck to to.

1876
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 1: You, Yeah, you can eat dinner in a fancy restaurant.

1877
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:41,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, you know a lovely timber Yeah you know, yeah,

1878
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:44,639
Speaker 2: you know if Luke has been very happy lately, I'm

1879
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 2: really enjoying that slipt like maybe it's the tequilae, you

1880
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 2: know what I mean?

1881
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 1: Actually, you know what that tequila is. Money is money, man, that.

1882
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:55,679
Speaker 2: Is Will you be like live streaming your life this Saturday?

1883
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 5: Hell yeah, dude, I'll be live for the full card. Also,

1884
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 5: prop Quid is dropping Friday Mike at m K time

1885
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 5: since we have no MK.

1886
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 1: Yeah it was on this week.

1887
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 6: I don't like giving away this. Okay, let me ask you.

1888
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:11,479
Speaker 1: Card without saying what the main event is.

1889
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:12,840
Speaker 2: That's a fair point.

1890
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:15,599
Speaker 6: Uh, this isn't a fight card. This is proper quiz.

1891
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm using and they're trying to I like to

1892
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 5: chease it on the Friday, and truth be told, I

1893
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 5: haven't recorded it yet.

1894
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 2: I don't want to. That's a better explanation. That is okay, Chuck,

1895
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:26,759
Speaker 2: how do you feel about this setup?

1896
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:31,559
Speaker 1: Paranoia? Right there? You You truly are a Colorado and

1897
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 1: White dad. I mean, look at this motherfuckers? You like

1898
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:38,719
Speaker 1: that ship?

1899
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 3: Those are trial You're still rocking with some of these

1900
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:42,799
Speaker 3: you got.

1901
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 1: No it broke. I had to switch.

1902
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:47,760
Speaker 4: Now I got, I got magnetized, and I've got like.

1903
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 3: A there's a there's a bring back your you got.

1904
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 1: This is better than the Kate Spade one. Yeah.

1905
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is better than.

1906
01:20:56,479 --> 01:21:00,760
Speaker 3: That Jimmy different even some c run speckled route. We've

1907
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:03,680
Speaker 3: got all the trout on there. Man, I don't care.

1908
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 2: You know the blanco was flowing today.

1909
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 1: I am absolutely it's good. I'm taking the train home.

1910
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:17,760
Speaker 2: Yes, acting responsibly, Virginia, I need to act response wait

1911
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 2: to Yeah, I.

1912
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:22,919
Speaker 1: Dated a girl who loved that was that band training meet? Virginia.

1913
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 4: I'm like, why don't you get the funk out of

1914
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 4: the car?

1915
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 2: Chuck, can you tell us a few things about your life.

1916
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 2: First and foremost, when was the last time you actively

1917
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 2: lit a bong?

1918
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 1: Actively? Oh? God, it's been a little while, it has it.

1919
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 1: It's been a little while.

1920
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 2: I don't know, probably post Columbine. Dude, what the usually

1921
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:50,800
Speaker 2: as a marker in time? I'm not can't you.

1922
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 1: Just say what?

1923
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 3: It would be a post stressful time.

1924
01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 1: I'll give you that. Yeah, it's been a lot from home, dude.

1925
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 1: We did Monday's MK and you know he does. Have

1926
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 1: you seen this ship? Yes? And every I was like,

1927
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:09,760
Speaker 1: who made this? Andrew Tate like the list it was, dude,

1928
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:10,320
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding.

1929
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:12,880
Speaker 2: The first fifteen me to like sep it up?

1930
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 1: So I thought I took the.

1931
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:17,599
Speaker 4: First fifteen videos were guys farting in their spouses faces.

1932
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:21,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then that chick farther than a slice of

1933
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:22,680
Speaker 2: pizza and that kind of.

1934
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 1: It did happen?

1935
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:26,640
Speaker 2: All right?

1936
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 1: Chuck seen any point tonight?

1937
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:30,599
Speaker 2: Chuck seen any good concerts lately?

1938
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:34,720
Speaker 1: Concerts? Uh? Not too many, but I did. I saw

1939
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 1: you know who hound Mouth is?

1940
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:36,320
Speaker 5: No?

1941
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 1: Man? Why the funk would we know that? What about

1942
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:42,800
Speaker 1: Dying Well Dying Feetus? Like if you you know that band? Right?

1943
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:45,720
Speaker 1: I do know because yeah, I played. I didn't see

1944
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:47,599
Speaker 1: them last time, so yeah, seconds.

1945
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 4: I bought concert tickets this week to see Cattle Decapitation.

1946
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 1: God.

1947
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 4: Wait, now, where do they stack up against? The Cattle

1948
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 4: is one of my favorite bands. They're awesome called the

1949
01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:01,439
Speaker 4: Cattle Chuck. Well, what's crazy is they probably know him

1950
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 4: and they want them back. Say, Captation better than goat War,

1951
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 4: a better band.

1952
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 2: Who have you seen at Red Rocks?

1953
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:12,679
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good question. Uh. Stone Tiple Pilots ship

1954
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:14,120
Speaker 1: are you yeah?

1955
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1956
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:16,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, nine Deaths. The last time there was nineties.

1957
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 2: I'm the damn core tour.

1958
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen some. I've only been there a handful

1959
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:24,719
Speaker 3: of times. It was the other one. It was Stone

1960
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:25,600
Speaker 3: Tiple Pilots.

1961
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 4: I saw Stone I saw in two thousand at the

1962
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 4: ag Festival, Stone Tuple Pilots and Rage against the Machine.

1963
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 2: That's not bad at all.

1964
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 1: The opener was a Cypress Hill and Deaftones. Okay, that's good,

1965
01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 1: that's a great one.

1966
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 2: Who else did you see their chuck? You're you're having problems?

1967
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't remember.

1968
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I used to write about music back

1969
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:46,800
Speaker 3: in the day, so I saw so many bands.

1970
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 1: That they start to run together.

1971
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 3: It's almost like we were talking about podcast praying earlier,

1972
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:51,719
Speaker 3: Like they start to all run together moment.

1973
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:54,080
Speaker 2: Give me a memorable night out at the concert, Give

1974
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:56,040
Speaker 2: me a venue and band where you're just like that was.

1975
01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:56,679
Speaker 1: The I saw.

1976
01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 3: I mean, I've seen some really good ones. I saw,

1977
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 3: like the Cult ones. I'm at the Viper Room when

1978
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 3: there was probably fifty people in this room. She seeks sanctuary.

1979
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 1: Is that the Cult? Yes? Yes, Dana was there.

1980
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 3: No, he wasn't there, but that's his band I've seen

1981
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 3: When I lived in Los Angeles, you get invited to

1982
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:17,599
Speaker 3: these kind of more exclusive, uh you know, small room,

1983
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 3: big band type shows. I mean, and those were always fun.

1984
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 1: Man.

1985
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:25,240
Speaker 2: You ever hit an eyes wide chub party afterwards pantsless?

1986
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:30,839
Speaker 1: I mean I wore pants, but for a while, didn't.

1987
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 2: Turn into a scientology recruitment.

1988
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 1: This guy, man, this guy was trying to purge my

1989
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:34,639
Speaker 1: body feet.

1990
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 4: I went to the Sphere with him and saw the

1991
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:39,480
Speaker 4: They're essentially the remnants of the Grateful.

1992
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:40,799
Speaker 2: Dead a few songs.

1993
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:43,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I gotta say that's pretty damn cool experience.

1994
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 1: I saw you.

1995
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 3: I'm not a big You Two fan, but I did

1996
01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:47,880
Speaker 3: see you too. During their stint there it's a it's

1997
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 3: an experience to go.

1998
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:52,640
Speaker 4: I saw you to it at MSG. They were I

1999
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:54,599
Speaker 4: like you to like anybody else. I mean they're they're

2000
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 4: they're yes, But dude, I gotta say, if you haven't

2001
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:00,759
Speaker 4: seen you, if you haven't seen a show at the Sphere,

2002
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:01,479
Speaker 4: it's incredible.

2003
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:04,120
Speaker 1: It's I mean, I know everyone's like down on it.

2004
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:06,240
Speaker 2: Because of the I don't know if Backstreet Boys is

2005
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 2: great there, but I would. But they've been doing they've

2006
01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:10,280
Speaker 2: been doing some bands earlier.

2007
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:13,920
Speaker 1: Can you imagine Metallica there or Tool.

2008
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 2: There or something like that would be so good. Studio

2009
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:17,680
Speaker 2: Head there would change my life.

2010
01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 1: I'm not going to see fucking radio you would.

2011
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:24,880
Speaker 2: If somebody, do you have a favorite Radiohead album? Or

2012
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 2: are we just too deep in the in the in

2013
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:27,280
Speaker 2: the weeds right now?

2014
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 3: It would be the Pablo Honey one, right, like the

2015
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 3: first one? Yeah, because I mean you don't I don't

2016
01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:32,880
Speaker 3: like all their Like.

2017
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 1: What's the one from what Carmel Police is on? That

2018
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:37,760
Speaker 1: one's good? Okay, computer is really good? Okay, computer? Those

2019
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:39,519
Speaker 1: would be the ones though I don't really like some

2020
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 1: of the stuff or not really not too much. No,

2021
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 1: what's the next concert you're.

2022
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 2: Going to unscheduled at the moment.

2023
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:50,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, cattle, thecalensation, that's it. They're coming through.

2024
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 4: They're going to Baltimore, So I have to go see

2025
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:53,519
Speaker 4: them in Baltimore or Philly.

2026
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:55,880
Speaker 3: I haven't you know, like how you'll go to Baltimore

2027
01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:57,559
Speaker 3: for like the cattle come to d C. That's what

2028
01:25:57,560 --> 01:25:58,880
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, though, But like I've heard you

2029
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 3: say some bad things about Ultimore in the day, Like

2030
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 3: that's Ultimore.

2031
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 1: It's got nice places to eat, but it's like the

2032
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 1: backside of my balls.

2033
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:09,599
Speaker 2: You've been if you will, Chuck, will you that you've

2034
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:11,559
Speaker 2: been a part of the show for six plus years?

2035
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 1: Is that right?

2036
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 2: The entire existence of this show, you've been.

2037
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 3: I was watching your intro and you know, I saw

2038
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 3: you wearing the wig you know on the Judge and.

2039
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 2: The Judge and what do you call the pubic wig? Yes,

2040
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 2: wearing the American Great Moment and Don and Don document I.

2041
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:29,280
Speaker 1: Forgot about this, Chuck.

2042
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:32,599
Speaker 2: Are you surprised that this tower is still standing?

2043
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 3: No, come on, I'm surprised it's not flourishing a little more.

2044
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:39,599
Speaker 3: I mean, you guys have like now plateaued it somehow.

2045
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:44,439
Speaker 3: Now I'm kidding it, but uh I always fully believe

2046
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 3: that the.

2047
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 1: Show was one places.

2048
01:26:46,479 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, all right, we're just gonna sit here

2049
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 4: and uh I.

2050
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:55,639
Speaker 2: Jet fuel theories, but I thought maybe we'll.

2051
01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:57,360
Speaker 3: Just do you do this to jet I never stick

2052
01:26:57,400 --> 01:26:58,680
Speaker 3: around for the end of those shows. So does he

2053
01:26:58,760 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 3: do this for Jed?

2054
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, but at that point he's usually hawking his ambulance

2055
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 4: chasing law service.

2056
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:05,640
Speaker 2: We will not have a show on Friday, but you

2057
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:07,599
Speaker 2: can reach out to this great program at Morning Combat

2058
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 2: at gmail dot com for your fan subs, for your

2059
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:13,559
Speaker 2: dead wrongs, or just to complain about our jokes. Thank

2060
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 2: you so much, Luke. Will you be live streaming things

2061
01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:16,840
Speaker 2: this week?

2062
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:17,479
Speaker 1: Yes, definitely.

2063
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 4: We're gonna be doing a watch along, probably for the

2064
01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:23,280
Speaker 4: full main card, but certainly for the top three fights,

2065
01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:25,479
Speaker 4: and then a post fight show live by him dem

2066
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 4: Slash with Thomas.

2067
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:28,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, there it is. That's the home for your great content, Chuck.

2068
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 2: Where can we find more of your fantastic.

2069
01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:35,720
Speaker 3: Work, primarily at uncrowned dot com. That's where I've got

2070
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 3: a bunch of features this week. You know, We've got

2071
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 3: Umar coming up, I've got something on Jeandoba will be

2072
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:42,559
Speaker 3: on the crack.

2073
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 1: I'll be on the Crack on Friday on the Crack.

2074
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:47,479
Speaker 2: I didn't I didn't know. I'm sorry, I didn't know

2075
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:49,400
Speaker 2: it was pronounced crack. I think that's hilarious.

2076
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 1: What did you think it was?

2077
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:55,080
Speaker 2: Well, it literally was like for like twisted ballbagers.

2078
01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:59,759
Speaker 1: That's like the Germans pronouncing it. The Irish pronounce it crack. Yeah.

2079
01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 2: I just found out about the crackheads.

2080
01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:03,599
Speaker 1: Yeah is what they're called.

2081
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:04,839
Speaker 2: That's brilliant.

2082
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 3: That's what he That's what Pizzi calls him, crackheads. Yeah

2083
01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:11,559
Speaker 3: really yeah, actually pretty, that's funny. I hope you've told

2084
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 3: Pizza you like him though, because for years he has.

2085
01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 4: Done it several I fucking DM him.

2086
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 1: All right, okay, bro, what are you talking about? Loup

2087
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:19,760
Speaker 1: doesn't like me?

2088
01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:21,800
Speaker 2: Oh don't you have that big money burg feature coming

2089
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 2: out this week?

2090
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 1: Which money Brook? Yeah No, that's not that's not me.

2091
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:31,559
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, all right, so that got me. That was yeah.

2092
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:31,800
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2093
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:34,200
Speaker 2: Wait, you know sometimes you just slipped one through, right,

2094
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 2: That's how a few marriages start.

2095
01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's getting he's getting he's getting some maritime these days.

2096
01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:42,200
Speaker 2: That's all the jokes we have for today. Really, sorry

2097
01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:44,040
Speaker 2: if we offended anyone but I hope we fired you

2098
01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 2: up for UFC three twenty one.

2099
01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:48,680
Speaker 1: Thank you to our but just a few people, a right,

2100
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:49,599
Speaker 1: just a few people.

2101
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 2: Thank you to Queropho. Thank you to our fantastic sponsors,

2102
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:56,400
Speaker 2: UH DraftKings Total Wireless as well. Three twenty one is

2103
01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:58,960
Speaker 2: this is this Saturday. We'll be back on Monday, live

2104
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 2: and direct inside this studio to break it all down.

2105
01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 2: Ken will be here, Luke, right, We love Ken.

2106
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:05,720
Speaker 1: Look at that guy?

2107
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:10,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, why is he in studio wearing a fur coat?

2108
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 4: Always were he would make a good It's like this.

2109
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:17,680
Speaker 4: This is good for this studio and also Antarctica.

2110
01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:21,600
Speaker 2: Okay, for Long Island, Luke the Great Chuck Mindenhall of

2111
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:25,600
Speaker 2: Uncrowned and UH caps everywhere, and for Luke Thomas of

2112
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 2: d C. We'll be seeing you. Take care of yourselves,

2113
01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:31,280
Speaker 2: believe in yourselves. We out of here.