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Speaker 2: On the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. I smell a

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Speaker 2: skunk and it's not my new cologne. And I know

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Speaker 2: it's not. Carrie Rhodes, who's always looking good. Something is

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Speaker 2: not right to the National Football League carry welcome in

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Speaker 2: Happy Tuesday. Hey, thank you for having me. Dan. It's

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Speaker 2: good to be back with you.

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Speaker 3: It's been a while and you know I always love

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Speaker 3: sharing the seats with you.

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Speaker 2: So let's let's get it. Let's get it going. We

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Speaker 2: get together during the football season. You can hear Carrie

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Speaker 2: with Monty Belangos five Eastern, two Pacific hanging out, having

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Speaker 2: a good time. And we're gonna have a good time

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Speaker 2: today here on Cavino and Rich. Yes, Jason Stewart's our

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Speaker 2: executive producer, Hello every Fund. Ryan Smith, our technical producer

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Speaker 2: on the board. Isaac Lohan kron Is at the news desk. Hello, Isaac.

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Speaker 2: I was like Isaac's not gonna say anything face. He

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Speaker 2: is much much more than that. Kirk Cousins is much

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Speaker 2: much more than that, and he is something else because

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Speaker 2: the Falcons quarterback in the headlines today as the premiere

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Speaker 2: of the new docuseriies, the second season of Quarterback came

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Speaker 2: out on Netflix, and Kirk Cousins is all the rage

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Speaker 2: on social media as he looks back on his twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four season and even the offseason that led him

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Speaker 2: signing with the Atlanta Falcons. Kerry Rhoades, We're gonna hear

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Speaker 2: from Cousins in a bit. But when you look back

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Speaker 2: out of season that he tried to come back from

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Speaker 2: an achilles injury, battle injuries as well and was ultimately

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Speaker 2: replaced by Michael Pennix Junior. I think ultimately you could

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Speaker 2: say it was not a successful season for the veteran quarterback.

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Speaker 3: It it was not a success for him personally except

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Speaker 3: for the pockets, right. He got an nice little pay ray,

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Speaker 3: so I think that was okay. But as far as

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Speaker 3: playing the way that I'm sure he wonted. That did

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Speaker 3: not go the way I wanted to do.

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Speaker 2: He wanted to do, And this is what Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 2: had to say, because Carrie is not wrong. It's always

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Speaker 2: been about the pockets and it's always been about the

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Speaker 2: money With Kirk Cousins. Take a listen to what the

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Speaker 2: Falcons quarterback had to say from Netflix in the new

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Speaker 4: Wasn't expecting us to take a quarterback so high. At

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Speaker 4: the time, it felt like I had been a little

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Speaker 4: bit misled, or certainly if I had the information around

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Speaker 4: free agency, it certainly would have affected my decision. I

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Speaker 4: had no reason to leave Minnesota with how much we

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Speaker 4: loved it there if both teams are going to be

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Speaker 4: drafting a quarterback high. But I've also learned in twelve

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Speaker 4: years in this league that if you're not entitled anything,

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Speaker 4: it's all about being able to earn your spot and

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Speaker 4: prove yourself.

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Speaker 2: No, he said a lot there and not to addicting

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Speaker 2: well and his actions, I say, would say otherwise, Kirk

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Speaker 2: Cousins laid out. I can understand the first part, feeling misled.

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Speaker 2: I think we were all shocked on draft night when

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Speaker 2: the Atlanta Falcons took Michael Penny Junior with their first

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Speaker 2: round pick, just a month after signing Kirk Cousins to

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Speaker 2: a four year, one hundred and eighty million dollar contract.

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Speaker 3: I think the only reason I was misled in that

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Speaker 3: going to invest that much into a guy, obviously he

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Speaker 2: I think we all were. We were expecting something different.

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Speaker 2: In fact, when you watch the NFL Draft and you

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Speaker 2: watch it back and you replay that pick, that's the

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Speaker 2: expecting that. So that part completely get from that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I feel that there's revisionist history in Minnesota in that

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Speaker 2: he's saying that we could have stayed in Minnesota. It

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Speaker 2: on a one year deal, Yes, and he alluded it

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Speaker 2: what's the difference then, in signing with the Atlanta Falcons

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Speaker 2: This is why Kirk Cousins is lying to you, is

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Speaker 2: because it has always been about the money. There you go,

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Speaker 2: It has always been about the money. With Kirk Cousins,

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Speaker 2: and if you don't believe me, I've got a list

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Speaker 2: carry right here of the history of Kirk Cousins in

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Speaker 2: the National Football League. By the way, none of which

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Speaker 2: am I mad at. Right. Get your money when you

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Speaker 2: a bill of goods at the other end that doesn't

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Speaker 2: match up with what your history has. In twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins, first quarterback in NFL history to be franchise

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Speaker 2: tagged two consecutive years, happened by the then Washington Football

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Speaker 2: Team and then the Redskins. Twenty eighteen, signs a fully guaranteed,

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Speaker 2: eighty four million dollars. At that time, he was the

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Speaker 2: guaranteed a lot two year extension off of that three

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Speaker 2: with sixty one million dollars guaranteed, so all but five

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Speaker 2: million dollars were guaranteed. That five million dollars also essentially

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Speaker 2: in reading back over, the deal was basically guaranteed because

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Speaker 2: Minnesota would have been on the hook for an obscene

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Speaker 2: him the five million dollars. But the documents will give

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Speaker 2: them the benefit of the doubt. Sixty six million dollars,

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Speaker 2: sixty one million of that guaranteed. In twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 2: that he signed thirty five million dollars fully guaranteed. And

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Speaker 2: then he goes to the Atlanta Falcons in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: four and signs for four years, one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 2: million dollars with one hundred million dollars guaranteed. Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 2: has played the game correctly, but it's always been about

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Speaker 2: the money, yes, when you have a team. By the way,

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Speaker 2: there were no The next highest free agent signing besides

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Speaker 2: signing basically a backup quarterback deal. There wasn't a market

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Speaker 2: been the default. It may have been planned b for him,

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Speaker 2: but that's not what he wanted to do, And in fact,

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Speaker 2: I don't think Minnesota wanted him back. I think Minnesota

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Speaker 2: Failed miserably. Nick Mullens had to take over. This was

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Speaker 2: all because of Cousins' is Achilles injury. In the end,

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Speaker 2: Minnesota decides, we're going to chart our own course. If

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Speaker 2: you want to come back, it's going to be a

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Speaker 2: one year deal, but we're going to draft a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: You know what. Kirk Cousins says, Fine, I'll go somewhere else,

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Speaker 2: in only one place, and I'll get one hundred and

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Speaker 2: eighty million dollars. So him telling you that I want

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Speaker 2: to stay back in Minnesota. It would have been better

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Speaker 2: from my family. If the Falcons weren't coming around with

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Speaker 2: maybe he would have stayed in Minnesota. But he didn't.

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Speaker 2: You know why, because Kirk Cousins has always been about

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Speaker 2: the money. And it's why I don't feel bad one bit.

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Speaker 2: The Falcons were actually fined in doct a fifth round

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Speaker 2: pick because they tampered with Kirk Cousins because they were

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Speaker 2: talking with him so early in the process. His wife

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Speaker 2: was reportedly looking at schools for their kids in early March,

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Speaker 2: before free agency had even started. This is all this is.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I know I'm worked up over this, but

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Speaker 2: just to hear this, this story of woe is me

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Speaker 2: and yeah, I was surprised. We all were surprised, right,

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Speaker 2: But let's be real. You took the money because you

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Speaker 2: wanted the money. That's what it was about. It wasn't

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Speaker 2: about leading the Falcons to the Super bowlers because they

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Speaker 2: were going to give you one hundred million dollars guaranteed

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Speaker 2: and there wasn't another team in the NFL that was

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Speaker 2: willing to pay you that. That's what this is all about.

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Speaker 3: You want to you want to add one more ounce

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Speaker 3: of proof to what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: It's about the money, let's hear it.

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Speaker 3: He's a two time participant to the Quarterback Show, Like

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Speaker 3: why why is he doing that show right now?

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Speaker 2: Perfect?

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Speaker 3: Just an added in truth for you to go then

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Speaker 3: for your statement. But for him, there's always been a

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Speaker 3: cap on what he could do and what he could

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Speaker 3: be as a player, Right, so he's maximized that. I

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Speaker 3: think for him individually, he's had a really really successful career. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: his time in Minnesota was going to be up. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he wasn't going to be the guy to get them

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Speaker 3: was one more team that was willing to, you know,

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Speaker 3: have him as an expensive stop gap to their next situation.

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Speaker 3: Obviously we didn't see Michael Pennix being that guy that

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Speaker 3: fact that he was able to finesse them for that

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Speaker 3: his talent and what he can do. Third, he's coming

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Speaker 3: this deal, it's just kind of assinine.

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Speaker 2: It isn't quite the trifecta, by the way. Yes, and

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Speaker 2: so if you're facing all of that stuff that you

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Speaker 2: know and I know, and I think that he knows right,

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Speaker 2: and someone says we'll give you a hundred million dollars guaranteed,

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Speaker 2: where do I sign? Exactly? Where do I sign? You

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Speaker 2: want me to? You know, do you want me to

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Speaker 2: lift the field goal nets on field goals too, when

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Speaker 2: we're kicking field goals? I'll do it for one hundred

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Speaker 2: million dollars. Absolutely. You want me to hold the sideline

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Speaker 2: chained when we're on an offense, That's what you do

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Speaker 2: when you're coming off of that injury, That's what you do.

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Speaker 2: No one there wasn't a team out there that was

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Speaker 2: willing to give Kirk Cousins that deal. And if it

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Speaker 2: But no, it's always been about the money for Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 2: So what it backfires on you and you get hurt

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Speaker 2: and you lose your job because they go in a

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Speaker 2: different direction. I don't agree with what the Falcons did,

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Speaker 2: but still I just have zero empathy or sympathy for

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Speaker 3: And I actually agree with what Atlanta did. He wasn't

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Speaker 3: playing well at all, so and I think this is

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Speaker 3: the other part of that conversation. If he played well,

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Speaker 3: he would still be the guy right now, and even

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Speaker 3: if they drafted Pennix, he still would be playing. But

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Speaker 3: he did not live up to even his part of

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Speaker 3: Dan, I just want to know what day is that

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Speaker 2: At that point. He was already guaranteed one hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 3: then I applaud you for always being ready and being

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Speaker 3: we applaud you. Right now, isn't the time to be

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Speaker 2: It's just not going to work. Great point. Jason Stewart's

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Speaker 5: Let's talk about that last part, right, Because he agreed

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Speaker 5: And I'm guessing Carrie, you know more about this than

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Speaker 2: I was just going to say, you don't admit it

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Speaker 2: that would be something that you're like, all right, maybe

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent strategic, right, I mean, now it is

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Speaker 2: And that's all. It's just a spin job. Yeah, he's done.

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Speaker 2: We know that he's unhappy. They were unable to deal him.

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Speaker 3: Is he the most expensive backup quarterback? I think that's

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Speaker 2: completely backfired on them. So then when the off season

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Speaker 2: comes around and they're talking about Kirk Cousins, they are

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Speaker 2: thinking about taking a quarterback early. And even though Cousins

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Speaker 2: mentioned it in that clip, he could have stayed there.

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Speaker 2: It would have been the same exact situation. The only

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Speaker 2: difference he wouldn't have got one hundred million dollars guaranteed.

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Speaker 2: And that's why he ultimately went to Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dan Byer Cavino and Rich. We'll be back in

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Speaker 2: this spot tomorrow talking about spending as a sports fan.

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Speaker 2: I missed that Dan started from day one. Yes, I

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Speaker 2: haven't heard that in a while. Well, it's back there.

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Speaker 2: He is day one starting lineups carry Rhoads. Is there.

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Speaker 2: We head back to the state of Florida. Tony's on

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Speaker 2: the line. I hope Tony isn't really Jonathan who called

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Speaker 2: to tell us to be smart about our money. Tony,

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Speaker 2: Welcome into Cavino and Rich talking about the price that

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Speaker 2: it is to be a sports fan. Welcome in.

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Speaker 7: Thanks. Yeah, I barely got through junior college, so there's

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Speaker 7: no financial.

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Speaker 2: You got.

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Speaker 8: But by the way, Carrie Rhoades, did they take to.

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Speaker 7: Laugh for the like Republican on the odd Couple? I

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Speaker 7: love that laugh that they play with that you.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. But if it is, I need

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Speaker 3: credit for that. I need a little compensation too.

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Speaker 7: No, no, but Parker Place. Anyway, to the point I

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Speaker 7: was gonna tell you, I really.

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Speaker 8: Do believe well, number one, I know.

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Speaker 7: That if it's not gonna happen, but if we went

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Speaker 7: back to cash, there is an actual pain of feeling

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Speaker 7: that when you hand over cash. It's different than clipping

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Speaker 7: your phone, swiping.

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Speaker 8: You know, Apple pegsiking anything.

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Speaker 7: Swiping your your you know you can swipe your palm

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Speaker 7: and uh, it's it's definitely kind of think of the

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Speaker 7: the guy playing the piano in the luxurious part of

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Speaker 7: the Titanic as it was going down, he refused to

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Speaker 7: stop playing.

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Speaker 8: And I believe that's.

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Speaker 7: Kind of where the direction family we're heading. If that's

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Speaker 7: what these numbers are in sports, and it's it is

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Speaker 7: pick and.

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Speaker 8: Choose Generation Z or like anyone I would say in their.

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Speaker 7: Mid or twenties and younger. They've kind of tred at

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Speaker 7: least in this country. Not the immigrants, but they've kind

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Speaker 7: of trashed, in my opinion, the idea of what money

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Speaker 7: is anymore, because it's just things getting thrown around in account.

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Speaker 8: So I do believe that they are going for the moment,

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Speaker 8: like the memory.

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Speaker 7: Obviously, and it's just something.

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Speaker 8: That I don't see. Like if give.

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Speaker 7: Me thirty seconds. There's a girl I work with that.

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Speaker 8: She's twenty four and refuses to get a driver's license

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Speaker 8: like a lot of her peers, and she has to.

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Speaker 7: Lift back and forth in the middle of the rush hour,

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Speaker 7: gets her lunch, her net.

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Speaker 8: I after her net what she makes every day going

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Speaker 8: up is four dollars more than what she has to lose.

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Speaker 8: So I asked her, what are you doing here? And

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Speaker 8: she goes, life is you get.

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Speaker 7: Out of the house? My mom told me, you know.

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Speaker 8: So it's just nothing's really adding up.

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Speaker 7: It's not making sense, and that's you know. I think.

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Speaker 8: I think we'll also.

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Speaker 7: Being lied to about the numbers as well. I mean,

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Speaker 7: Stewart said that sixty five, but everyone's bringing home forty

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Speaker 7: five to fifty. That's real. But everyone's kind of telling

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Speaker 7: us that there's these these people for who knows who,

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Speaker 7: making observing amounts of money doing whatever online.

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Speaker 2: Sure Tony, well, jeez, Tony got the acts is that

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Speaker 2: you I am? I think Tony. Tony brought up a

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Speaker 2: lot of great points and the the I think there

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Speaker 2: are three different arguments that are being brought into this.

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Speaker 2: The New York Times says, again, forty eight fans pay

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Speaker 2: up the forty eight hundred dollars a year. That's not

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Speaker 2: the average. That's up to forty eight hundred dollars a year. Yes,

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Speaker 2: My point is if you're spending that money and it

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Speaker 2: makes you feel good. Like me, sports are a majority

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Speaker 2: of my life. Now as I've gotten older, done maybe

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Speaker 2: more old guy things yard work and stuff like that

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Speaker 2: that'll invest money in. But sports has been from you know,

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Speaker 2: a part of my life ever since I was born.

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Speaker 2: So there is something that I am involved in, always

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Speaker 2: tied to. So I don't feel money to Jason and

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Speaker 2: the Break just asked you what do you like to

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Speaker 2: spend money on? Right, and you said music, like that's

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Speaker 2: your thing? What was your thing Jason that you had?

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Speaker 5: I'm a poker guy, I spent a little too much

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Speaker 5: money on poker every.

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Speaker 2: Year, and you know, you can sit there and you

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Speaker 2: can pick apart whether it be concerts or whether it

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Speaker 2: be poker tournaments or the sports stuff that I do.

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Speaker 2: It's a different argument on what the teams are charging

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Speaker 2: and what the leagues are charging for the prices. It's

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Speaker 2: a different argument if you are spending beyond your means,

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Speaker 2: like this person was at their work where they weren't

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Speaker 2: even coming out on top for showing up to work.

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Speaker 2: They just needed to get out of the house. And

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Speaker 2: it's a different argument on if you are overspending what

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Speaker 2: you can afford for sports apparel. I just feel the

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Speaker 2: article and the piece was aiming to show how fans

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Speaker 2: are being priced out, and I understand that, but I

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Speaker 2: still think that there are ways where you can enjoy

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Speaker 2: sports and spend money and feel good about it. That's

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Speaker 2: where I'm coming from. And Dan, this is another one.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw one one point out there. Everything about

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Speaker 2: the times we're living in right now, it's about fear.

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Speaker 2: Like when you see an article like that, it's jarring,

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Speaker 2: It sets you back, and it makes you realize, obviously

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Speaker 2: at the max, like people are spending that much with sports.

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Speaker 2: Right Again, as big as sports as you are, your

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Speaker 2: number is significantly lower. Right.

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Speaker 3: I think there is a happy medium there, obviously that

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Speaker 3: we can find with this spending stuff on the stuff

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Speaker 3: you want it to be on, but always come back

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Speaker 3: to fear Like it's almost like if we're fear mongering

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Speaker 3: people to not do the things that they love in

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Speaker 3: our time. Right now, do the things you love. You

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Speaker 3: can do it responsibly. That numbers on the high end,

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Speaker 3: but all numbers aren't that number.

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Speaker 2: I have a guy coming over tomorrow that's gonna put

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Speaker 2: new screens on some of my windows, right, did I

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Speaker 2: Am I excited about getting new screens? Heck? No, Okay,

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Speaker 2: it's not excited at all. I'm glad it's getting taken

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Speaker 2: care of. But am I gonna sit there and get

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Speaker 2: this high off of seeing the new screen when I

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Speaker 2: open the window? No, it's gonna look like the old screen,

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Speaker 2: except just in a little better condition. That's the money

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Speaker 2: that maybe I would use on buying tickets to a

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Speaker 2: Lakers game or a Clippers game. So guess what, we

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00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 2: don't go to it? Right? That stings. That stinks, but

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Speaker 2: it comes from the same purse. The same account that

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Speaker 2: you would have stuff like, you know, of expendable money,

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Speaker 2: or at least stuff that maybe isn't I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to get new screens every single year, like it's just

570
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Speaker 2: not going to happen and just we need them now.

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Speaker 2: I got to do it. So there are things that

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Speaker 2: I'm going to have to adjust to. But I'd much

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Speaker 2: rather be looking online at a new hoodie that's coming

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Speaker 2: out for you know, in the NFL, or in college

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Speaker 2: sports or in the NBA than having to pay some

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Speaker 2: guy to put new screens on my windows.

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Speaker 3: You don't like the new screens, I would beg to

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Speaker 3: differ that. The myths is love the new sport.

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Speaker 2: She will yes, yes, and that's why it takes priority.

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Speaker 2: That's why there will be one less cap there in

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Speaker 2: sweatshirts and ticket In our household.

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Speaker 2: I know sometimes sports babies can be crying at the

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Speaker 2: checkouts after purchasing apparel for their new team. I say

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Speaker 2: that should not be the case. Bye with joy here

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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio Today. Joyous Tuesday, July eighth. Cavino

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Speaker 2: and Rich were in for Dan Patrick earlier today. Guys

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Speaker 2: will be back in their normalst spot tomorrow. Carry Rhoads

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Speaker 2: this year. I'm Dan byer Isaac lowincron is at the

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Speaker 2: news desk. Jason Stewart's our executive producer, and Ryan Smith,

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Speaker 2: seekers a fee. We are talking about money here, As

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Speaker 2: a recent report from The New York Times, Carrie Rhoads said,

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Speaker 2: sports fans pay a lot of money per year to

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Speaker 2: support their teams. Do you know how much money a

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Speaker 2: year sports fans like one specific person, And we're talking

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Speaker 2: about one game ticket to each of the four leagues,

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Speaker 2: two jerseys, two hats, streaming services. What would that total

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Speaker 2: seem to you? If you were a sports fan went

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Speaker 2: to a football game, baseball game, NBA game and an

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Speaker 2: NHL game, bought a couple of jerseys, bought a couple

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Speaker 2: of hats, high speed internet for your home so you

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Speaker 2: can watch this stuff on the streaming services. Paying for

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Speaker 2: all the streaming services where all these games are. How

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Speaker 2: much do you think that would run? So that sounds

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Speaker 2: about about five about five k wow? Geez, does he

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Speaker 2: know the answer to this? You're supposed to say, oh,

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Speaker 2: about fifteen hundred dollars, And I say, uh, Carrie, maybe

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Speaker 2: in two thousand and four, but in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 2: the New York Times says four thousand, seven hundred and

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Speaker 2: eighty five dollars a year is what sports fans pay.

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Speaker 2: That's the highest amount to be a fan of their

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Speaker 2: sports team. They have to forty eight hundred dollars a

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Speaker 2: year to be a fan of their sports team. That's

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Speaker 2: a lot of Money's a lot of money. Yeah, But

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Speaker 2: you know what I say, money well spent. I don't

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Speaker 2: I get that. There's budgets and every household has to

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Speaker 2: deal with it. Some have larger budgets, some have smaller budgets.

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00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 2: Some have priorities, some don't. But you know what sports

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Speaker 2: provides for me? Fun entertainment, passion, excitement, all of that.

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Speaker 2: That's what I want to spend my money on.

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Speaker 7: That.

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Speaker 2: I know that the article is shocking, and in a

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Speaker 2: way it's supposed to be, like, look at how it's

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Speaker 2: priced out the common family. That completely stinks it does

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Speaker 2: it does? However, buying jerseys for your kids it's fun.

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00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 2: I love buying sports stuff for my son. It's exciting

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Speaker 2: to be able to buy a jersey for yourself or

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Speaker 2: a hat. To buy all that stuff, i'd much or

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Speaker 2: either I get much more from sports in buying those

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Speaker 2: packages that I pretty much do. Of anything else that

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Speaker 2: I spend my free income on, or income that isn't

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Speaker 2: designated to a water bill or a gas bill, I

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Speaker 2: have no problems with it. Now. Do I want to

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Speaker 2: spend forty eight hundred dollars? No? Will I buy a

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Speaker 2: ticket to every sports league that there is, No, I

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Speaker 2: won't do that. But I have no problem in spending

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Speaker 2: my money on a jersey or a shirt or a

647
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 2: hat that comes in because honestly it makes me feel good.

648
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean, and I think what you're saying.

649
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's a keepsake, right, Like you have

650
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 3: an opportunity I mean, obviously you could do some of

651
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 3: that stuff with other things as well. But when you

652
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 3: talk about sports a lot of times, there's there's moments

653
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 3: in sports that we'll always remember, right There's those you know,

654
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 3: there's this crazy hell Mary, there's a big comeback in

655
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,959
Speaker 3: the super Bowl. There's all these things that happen in

656
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 3: the world of sports where it's almost like where were

657
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 3: you when that happened?

658
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

659
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 3: When you actually buy it or purchase it and you

660
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 3: have that keepsake, that's something that's really special. I think,

661
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 3: especially when you have you start having kids and you

662
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 3: start you know, opening your household up that way, and

663
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 3: you want to pass something on to your kid a

664
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 3: moment like that, even if they're not a sports fan,

665
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 3: that's something they can look at and say, my dad

666
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 3: loved that or my mom loved that, and they will

667
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 3: find some value in that, in that thing, and also

668
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 3: outside of your memory of it or the person that's

669
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 3: buying it or taking part of that experience, passing it

670
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,239
Speaker 3: on to someone else that you feel as special to you,

671
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 3: they have that bond and that tige as well. So

672
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 3: I look at it that way. I know that your

673
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 3: specific situation is different. Because you played sports, and I

674
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 3: alway feel like when you're an athlete, like there there

675
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 3: isn't necessarily the tie. You probably had favorite teams growing

676
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 3: up and everybody that you cheered for, but once you

677
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 3: get in the league, it just becomes different for you.

678
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 3: So when you heard that it's five thousand dollars or

679
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 3: forty eight hundred dollars up to for a sports fan,

680
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 3: does that resonate with you in any way of like,

681
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 3: is it a jolt? Is it shocking?

682
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 2: Is it surprising that it would cost that much for

683
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 2: someone to do the things? By the way, we're not

684
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 2: saying every fan is paying five thousand dollars a year,

685
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 2: but what they did is they priced it out to

686
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 2: with all four leagues, apparel, how you consume it at home,

687
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 2: and that's the number they came up.

688
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 3: But I think the numb one thing when I hear

689
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 3: it is obviously it's jarring when you hear that number

690
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 3: four people that probably shouldn't be spending the amount of

691
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 3: money to do anything that's outside of the essential stuff.

692
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 3: So I would say jarring on that from that perspective.

693
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 3: But we pay for everything in life, right, what's the

694
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 3: value of what you're paying for if you're a super

695
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 3: fan and somebody that finds value in that, then you're

696
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 3: paying for the experience, the value. You're paying for that

697
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 3: moment of time that you'll never get it back, minus

698
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 3: the keepsake. Right, So I could appreciate it that way,

699
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 3: but I also you said it, it's different for me.

700
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,760
Speaker 3: I'm not a super fan of all the four leagues,

701
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 3: and I'm not going to pay that amount of money

702
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 3: for that because I'm not experiencing it that way.

703
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 2: Right.

704
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 3: I don't think everybody is. This is a general number,

705
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 3: but I also think that number isn't as big as

706
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 3: we're making it same for everybody.

707
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 2: I think we're all sports fans here, coming from different

708
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,760
Speaker 2: angles of course. Jason Stewart, you're the one that actually

709
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 2: gave me a heads up on this story when you

710
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 2: heard it was forty eight hundred dollars compared to by

711
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 2: the way, in two thousand and four, it was thirteen

712
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 2: hundred dollars a year, So three hundred and twenty one dollars. Wow.

713
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 2: But so you see the story, it obviously piques your

714
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: interest for what reason, because that's.

715
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 5: A lot of money, and I think a lot of

716
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 5: Americans are living in debt. Right now, I think a

717
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 5: lot of Americans live over their head. I just ran

718
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 5: the quick numbers. Now, sixty seven thousand dollars is the

719
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 5: average salary of a single in this country. The take

720
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 5: home on sixty seven thousand is roughly forty five hundred bucks.

721
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 5: I'man forty five thousand dollars, right, So a tenth of

722
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 5: your take home on average is being spent on this.

723
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 2: Now.

724
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 5: I know your point is it's worth it. They're these

725
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 5: are they're building memories, these are things they'll never be

726
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 5: able to take away. But to me, the first thing

727
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 5: that came to mind answer your question is we are

728
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 5: an irresponsible spending country and this is very on brand

729
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 5: for Americans.

730
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 2: Interesting, go ahead, Gerry, Yeah.

731
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 3: No so, Jay, So like you're if you're not spending

732
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 3: that forty eight hundred on the thing you want to

733
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 3: do the most as a as a fan, not even

734
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 3: a super fan, as a fan like you have, You've

735
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 3: worked numerous amount of hours. You have this one thing

736
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 3: that brings joy to your life. The value of that,

737
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 3: you don't see the value in that. I know it's high,

738
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, but just for that, no, no.

739
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 5: I do see the value in the experiences. But we

740
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 5: know that a lot of this is is in gear

741
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 5: and what merchandise or what have you that you probably

742
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 5: shouldn't spend money on. And that's what I think about.

743
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 5: I'm curious to hear from the listener as well. You

744
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 5: can find carry at Carrie twenty five r ods. You

745
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 5: can find me at Dan Byer on Fox. The phone

746
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 5: numbers Cavino and Rich always welcomed me in eight seven

747
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 5: seven nine nine on Fox. That's nine nine six six

748
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 5: three sixty nine eight seven seven nine on six six

749
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 5: three six'. Nine and do you Have jason's reaction where

750
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 5: it's a lot of? Money do you have my reaction to,

751
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 5: Say i'm spending stuff on stuff THAT i. Love, YEAH

752
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 5: i think that the point of the, Article jason was

753
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 5: your reaction to be, like this is how shocking it,

754
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 5: is this is how this is how it's expensive it

755
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 5: has now, become this is how all of these sports

756
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 5: leagues are trying to find ways to get into your.

757
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 5: Pocket AND i JUST i look at it as a different.

758
00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 5: Way i'm A seahawks. FAN i like looking at The

759
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,919
Speaker 5: Seahawks Pro shop to see what they've got for, gear

760
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 5: and even THOUGH i like to play golf a, lot

761
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 5: and you're gonna see me nine times out of ten

762
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 5: in a golf polo THAT i wear to. WORK i

763
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 5: feel different When i'm, like OH i like. THAT i

764
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 5: like That seahawks. Hoodie that's different for. Me AND i

765
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 5: know it's just putting the logo on it what it,

766
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 5: is but it's a different feel to. Me it's something

767
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 5: that IS i just look at a polo. Shirt it's,

768
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 5: like all, right it's the polo shirt THAT i wear to,

769
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 5: Work like that's what it. Is like there's, something it's

770
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 5: a separation of. It so IF i have this extra

771
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 5: money And i'm completely blanking on the phrase right, NOW

772
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 5: i how we talk about Our, yes, yeah expendable. Income

773
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 5: If i'm putting it all on sports or putting it

774
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 5: on that, amount at, Least I'm i'm, excited like to

775
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,240
Speaker 5: be able to watch all the games On sunday ticket

776
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 5: if that's part of your streaming thing On sunday. Afternoon

777
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 5: we long for those eighteen weeks of the regular season all,

778
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 5: year like people are itching for. It that to me

779
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 5: is money well. Spent and while it is expensive and

780
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 5: maybe you have to make, DECISIONS i just don't look

781
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 5: at this that, way, like WOULD i want to spend

782
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 5: five thousand, Dollars, NO i would cut out the hockey

783
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 5: game that's included in. This, right maybe we're not going

784
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 5: TO nfl games in, person but IF i am going to,

785
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 5: One i'm buying a sweatshirt or something for my son

786
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 5: and we're going and MAYBE i figure out a different

787
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 5: way to do. It BUT i felt LIKE i just

788
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 5: felt the angle of the article was to dissuade people

789
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 5: from spending money on, sports and when it is a

790
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 5: very very tough financial time right, Now yes it. IS

791
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 5: i just find that there's other stuff that we wasted,

792
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 5: on and this at least makes me excited about What

793
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 5: i'm at least What i'm consuming or What i'm.

794
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 2: Buying and that would.

795
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 3: Be my, counterpoint, right, like what else are you going

796
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 3: to spend it? On because we're going to have to

797
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 3: spend it living In america right, now it's expensive any

798
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 3: way you cut, it, Right so there's not you're not

799
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 3: cutting anywhere. Else it's just depending on where you want

800
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 3: to give them money.

801
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 2: TOO i remember a story that WAS i don't know the,

802
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 2: person but this story is stuck with me for seventeen,

803
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 2: years and it was Super bowl forty, three The steelers

804
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 2: played The Arizona cardinals and we were in our media

805
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 2: seating In tampa at the, game and there's a group of.

806
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 2: People now We're when you have A Super, bowl not

807
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 2: all media can fit into the press. Box so what

808
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 2: they do is they take a section of the stadium

809
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 2: and they mark it off for media to sit at

810
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 2: This Super. Bowl it was basically three rows from the.

811
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 2: Top the fireworks were little right at your back from the.

812
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 2: Stadium we were up. There BUT i remember somebody talking

813
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 2: about this friend of theirs that they knew From pittsburgh

814
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 2: because it was A pittsburgh media, member and they were

815
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 2: talking to this, guy and the guy told the story and,

816
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 2: said This steelers, Fan, rentz has purchased a condo In

817
00:40:55,480 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 2: pittsburgh and stays there for all ten games because at

818
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 2: that time sixteen game, schedule you had two preseason home

819
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 2: games ten, games and so ten times a year he

820
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 2: goes back To pittsburgh and that's where he stays and

821
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 2: takes in The steelers. Weekend says the guy doesn't spend

822
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 2: his money on anything. Else that's where his expendable income.

823
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 2: Came and this was again seventeen years. AGO i don't

824
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 2: know how much a condo And pittsburgh, cost but the

825
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 2: guy wanted to put his money because he was A

826
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 2: steelers fan to make sure that he gets to go

827
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 2: to the games and has a place to, stay and

828
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 2: then maybe used it as an investment. Property and the

829
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 2: host's point that was telling us about this guy says

830
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 2: that's where his priorities. Are and it always stuck with

831
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 2: me that if that's where your priority, is if that's

832
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: where you're that deep into, it hats off to. You

833
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 2: if that's what you love and that's what you want to,

834
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 2: do then go ahead and spend your. Money there's a

835
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 2: million other ways to blow. It you can blow it on.

836
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 2: Gambling you, can you, know like you can people go

837
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 2: down that road like there's ways to do. It Like

838
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 2: it's just there are a lot of different ways that

839
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 2: you can spend your. Money and if something makes you,

840
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 2: happy like sitting at home watching football all day on A,

841
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 2: sunday then it's worth buying that streaming. Package one.

842
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 3: HUNDRED i, MEAN i COULDN'T i couldn't have said it.

843
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 3: BETTER i, MEAN i think there is it's. Value it's

844
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 3: finding value in what you want to find a value,

845
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 3: in and if that's what you want to do and

846
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 3: spend it, on then do it that. WAY i think

847
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 3: whenever you see or hear those, numbers obviously it's it's

848
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 3: a it's a far cry from where we used to

849
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 3: be as far as the numbers and the pricing of.

850
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 3: Things but that's, worldwide that's every that's with everything that

851
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 3: we could. Buy it's way more. Expensive so, yeah find

852
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 3: the value in. It jonathan is In. Miami he wants

853
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 3: to talk, About oh, yeah the expense of. Sports John, Well,

854
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 3: jonathan welcome In Fox Sports.

855
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 9: Radio are You i'm doing. Unbelievable, Actually i'll look at

856
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 9: a different. Perspective i'm a financial, professional and quite, frankly

857
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 9: it cares me to see how people don't say the

858
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 9: nickel for, retirement that are willing to spend forty five

859
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 9: hundred or five thousand hours a year on. Sports it's,

860
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 9: great it's a few, hours spend it with your, kids

861
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 9: but then you're living in your kid's basement when you're

862
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 9: seventy years, Older, John, unfortunately that is the. Problem that's

863
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 9: the problem in today's.

864
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 8: World.

865
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 9: Unfortunately so that's my perspective as an older.

866
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 2: Person you're being you're being way too, logical AND i

867
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 2: felt like in all of, This BUT i would also,

868
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 2: say if you're spending up to five thousand dollars a

869
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 2: year to do, this are you spending on other? Things

870
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 2: that's the. POINT i will also say, This not everybody's

871
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,959
Speaker 2: it's gonna be very. Morbid i'm. Sorry not everybody's making

872
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 2: it to retirement to that point OF Suret LIKE i

873
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 2: thought about, this this is Like i've, So I'm i'm

874
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 2: a couple of years away from being. Fifty i'm If

875
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 2: i'm being, Honest i'm a year and a half away

876
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 2: from being. Fifty oh. Damn put it out. There at

877
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 2: some point my golf game is the golf ball is

878
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 2: not going to be hit as far as it is just.

879
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 2: Not it's going to start. To so When i'm sixty,

880
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,720
Speaker 2: five DO i want to go out and play golf

881
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 2: then at those at the top courses or WHAT i

882
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 2: want to do it? Now WHEN i feel LIKE i

883
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 2: can do it my best and have that. EXPERIENCE i

884
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 2: GET i, Know i'm sitting here And i'm on national

885
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 2: radio going against a financial advisor on what to do

886
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,919
Speaker 2: with your. Money But i've thought about this a, lot

887
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 2: AND i get. It it's the right thing to it's

888
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 2: the right thing to. Do And i'm not saying to

889
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 2: avoid your four to oh one k or rath or

890
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 2: whatever you've. Got it's just the point of if it

891
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 2: gives me, enjoyment it's more valuable to me than the

892
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 2: other ways THAT i could end up spending my money

893
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 2: and not get anything from.

894
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 3: It and the thing is, here we're talking about hopefully

895
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 3: five thousand dollars that you can. Spend this isn't saying

896
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 3: you're tapping into your straight.

897
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 2: POINTS i got, YOU i got you.

898
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 3: Back, down like we're not talking about reaching in your

899
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 3: pocket for something that we said expendable, Income like this

900
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 3: is something that we could use and we can put

901
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 3: it to wherever we want to put it. To so

902
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 3: if you have forty eight hundred to spend and spend

903
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 3: in the place you want to spend it and have,

904
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 3: value do. It it's not as hard as we're making

905
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 3: it seem right.

906
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 2: Now it's. High we know that that's not going to.

907
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 3: Change that's where we are as a. Society the money

908
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 3: and spending is an. Issue but if you have five

909
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 3: forty eight, hundred five thousand dollars to spend on, something

910
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 3: you want to spend. ON i don't think that's a bad.

911
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 2: Thing it's different when you're talking about, gambling when you're

912
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 2: doing those sort of, things that's not included any of. This,

913
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 2: yeah maybe by one, jersey don't buy two. Jerseys maybe

914
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,760
Speaker 2: buy one, hat don't buy two. Hats it, said maybe

915
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 2: don't go to THE nhl OR nba, game watch it

916
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 2: from the house that you're buying the streaming packages from

917
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 2: instead of, like those are the ways to save. It

918
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 2: that's the. Budget, YEAH i JUST i felt like because

919
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 2: of the comparison for how much it cost in two

920
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 2: thousand and, four there's no doubt it's more than three

921
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 2: times what it was twenty years, ago according to these,

922
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 2: numbers thirty hundred to almost forty eight hundred. Dollars it,

923
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 2: Is it truly. Is AND i know that we want

924
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 2: to say sports fans in these leagues are taking advantage

925
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,439
Speaker 2: of all of, us BUT i know darnwell when Show

926
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 2: Heyo tani signed with The dodgers in these, hallways how

927
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 2: many people were trying to get their show Hey Tani dodger? Jerseys?

928
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 2: Right and if it's eighty nine dollars or one hundred

929
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 2: and nine dollars for whatever it, is it's twenty dollars.

930
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 2: Difference you're still in it for ninety, dollars and if

931
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 2: they up charge you twenty, bucks that's, things but that's

932
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 2: a part of. It and you're not gonna worry about.

933
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 2: That when you're the first buddy that you have that's

934
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 2: wearing the new Show Heyo tani jersey and you show

935
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 2: up to work and everybody, says where'd you get? That i'm,

936
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 2: sorry there's some excitement over. It i'm not saying to

937
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 2: be frivolous with your. Money i'm just SAYING i feel

938
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 2: that there is value in investing into your sports, fandom

939
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 2: AND i just don't have a problem with.

940
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 5: It you talk about the Shohil A tani. Jerseys SO

941
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 5: i just went to The dodger game On. Sunday i'll

942
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 5: do it five or six times a, year AND i

943
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 5: always have the same. Thought maybe this speaks to the

944
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 5: Way i'm. Wire but WHEN i pay for those beers

945
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 5: and those nine dollars hot dogs and everything, else And i'm,

946
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 5: Thinking i'm not even bringing a family of four or. Five,

947
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 5: yeah and you look around and all those families are

948
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 5: equipped in brand new o tawny jerseys And dodgers custom made,

949
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 5: shoes and you're, like how do these families afford these?

950
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 2: Experiences? Isaac that raises an interesting.

951
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: Question, guys we, talk we hear about in business and

952
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: society the bubbles around the turn of the. Millennium it

953
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: was the dot com, Bubble there was even a regional

954
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 1: sports net. Bubble from a sports consumer, standpoint is there

955
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: any stopping sports? Consumption will people ever stop buying tickets or?

956
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: Merchandise is sports as an industry recession proof or bubble bursting?

957
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: Proof IF i can put it that, WAY.

958
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 2: I think, Yes AND i think that's why THE. Nfl

959
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 2: THE nfl got to a point where more people would

960
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 2: rather stay at. HOME i think they were worried about

961
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 2: staying at home as opposed to going to actual. GAMES

962
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 2: i felt that there was. Teetering as, RECENTLY i still

963
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 2: feel like it's become so big though that now it's

964
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 2: kind of flattened out and it doesn't. Matter you're still

965
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 2: trying to go to the big. Games every game now

966
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 2: almost feels like a big game because of all the

967
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 2: different windows that they. Have, Right, SO i don't see

968
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 2: a bubble coming at any point to What isaac is.

969
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 2: SAYING i just think what happens is you cut back

970
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 2: and what you really don't. Love, Right that's WHAT i.

971
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,280
Speaker 3: Think and you won't be able to bust it because,

972
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 3: again you don't have to step outside of your house

973
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 3: to get that experience. Anymore, right it's in your. House

974
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 3: you have to stream it to even watch. It, right

975
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 3: it's not on NATIONAL. Tv you have to spend money

976
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,760
Speaker 3: to actually consume, It so it won't happen that. Way

977
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 3: but also throw out the question of like people are

978
00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 3: spending money on whatever they want to spend it all,

979
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 3: right you have Your disney, adults you have your people

980
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 3: that go To.

981
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,240
Speaker 2: Disney how expensive is that? Now so it's it's it's

982
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 2: you're you're gonna spend money.

983
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 5: REGARDLESS a friend of mine and he he basically says

984
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 5: kind of what you've e've been, Saying. Dan he loves,

985
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 5: concerts and he, SAYS i work to basically fund my concert.

986
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 5: Fetish he just likes going around the country and seeing

987
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 5: bans and he justifies. It so to your, point if

988
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 5: if you're saying that you're choosing to spend money on

989
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 5: what you really love and the things that you don't,

990
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:31,919
Speaker 5: love you're not spending money.

991
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 2: On, RIGHT a lot Of the.

992
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 5: Things that you don't love are obviously like rent and

993
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 5: food and.

994
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 2: Electricity, yeah not saying skip rent to see The chargers

995
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 2: you're back And. Raiders it's so.

996
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 3: Far, yeah your your your, father your, son or your

997
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 3: daughter won't enjoy.

998
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 2: That there's there's there his there's an extreme to. Everything

999
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 2: AND i Appreciate jonathan calling in and saying, like, right,

1000
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 2: hey you know it's his business as, well but that's

1001
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,720
Speaker 2: not NECESSARILY I i JUST i think it's a different.

1002
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 2: Kind there's other ways that they can put money into

1003
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 2: the four oh ONE. K if you're that much of

1004
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 2: a fan and, LISTEN i get sports teams get. YOU

1005
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,760
Speaker 2: i see THE, nfl THE nfl now with the throwback.

1006
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 2: Uniforms i've everybody knows that The eagles look better In kelly.

1007
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 2: Green we know The seahawks look better in their silver and.

1008
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,919
Speaker 2: Blue we know The buccaneers look better in their. Creamsicles

1009
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 2: but no one's gonna buy the other. Stuff if that's

1010
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 2: the alternate, Uniform if it's the main, jersey actually has

1011
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 2: to be not as good as your, alternate because fans

1012
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 2: will buy. Both then if it's if it's, better they'll

1013
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 2: only buy the one they wouldn't. Buy they wouldn't buy

1014
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 2: The seahawks one that they were now because everybody likes

1015
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 2: what they're wearing with their. Throwback if that was the normal,

1016
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 2: one you got to make the popular one the one

1017
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 2: off because that allows you to buy more. Jerseys and

1018
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 2: THE nfl does it with training camp hats and then

1019
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 2: opening season you've got your sideline. Apparel then guess what

1020
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 2: crucial catch. Month then In november it's The armed forces

1021
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 2: and your, veterans and you're wearing camouflage on the, sidelines

1022
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 2: all different ways to try to get you to. BUY

1023
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 2: i understand those. Tricks we complain about THE nba and the.

1024
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 2: Jerseys they're wearing four different jerseys because they want us

1025
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 2: to buy four different. Jerseys we understand all of. That

1026
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 2: So i'm not saying that they're innocent in all of.

1027
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 2: This but you have to be the one to be

1028
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 2: able to tell, Yourself i'm only going to get this

1029
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 2: jersey and live like. That you can't be frivolous with.

1030
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,959
Speaker 2: It BUT i JUST i can't FIND i can't find

1031
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 2: any fault in getting excited over buying a new cap

1032
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 2: Because i've loved. IT i love. IT i absolutely love

1033
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 2: doing stuff like.

1034
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 3: You're forgetting about cancer awareness months as. Well the pink

1035
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 3: pink Jersey's october that's another. One and, ALSO i mean

1036
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 3: the THING i guess the team that doesn't have to

1037
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 3: worry about that was The jets with their Throwback. Titans

1038
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 3: nobody bought that.

1039
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 7: One so?

1040
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 3: Good did you rock that? One did you have to wear?

1041
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 3: THAT i had to wear that on AND i liked,

1042
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 3: it but nobody purchased. It so we know that.

1043
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 2: He's carrier On I'm Dan, buyer speaking if popular. Apparel

1044
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 2: you wouldn't believe how one athlete is taken over the apparel.

1045
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 2: World and it's not who you think he's. Carry I'm

1046
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 2: Dan byer in For cavino And rich here On Fox Sports.

1047
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 2: Radio maybe it's the perfect segue carry and talking about

1048
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 2: clothes Because Travis matthew absolutely, magnificent, comfort. Versatility cavino And

1049
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 2: rich talk about it all the. Time this show brought

1050
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,680
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1051
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1052
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,560
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1053
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 2: Course i've always been a big fan Of Travis matthew's

1054
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 2: golf gear but now they've branched out and they're giving

1055
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1056
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