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So his 25 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: shit is rolling right now. He is, Josh, it is 26 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 2: a pleasure to have you on. So I don't like 27 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: criticizing college athletes, but I have said we'll start with 28 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: this that once they started making five million bucks a year, 29 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 2: you're a professional. Whatever level you play at, you're a professional. 30 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 2: And Arch Manning can handle it. And I said, listen, 31 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 2: there are and this I feel this way about Belichick's opener, 32 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 2: there are games in which you struggle. I've seen Patrick 33 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: Mahomes just have bad halves, bad super Bowls. But with 34 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 2: Arch it was I mean, when he first rolled out 35 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: to the right and skipped that thing about eight yards shy, 36 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: that was more than nerves. It was armslot. It was 37 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: Macaire annex. And he'll bounce back in the next three games. 38 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: It's you know, it's you know, really second tier programs. 39 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 2: But I don't think it's just a hey, it was jitters. 40 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: I had some concerns. I can't unsee it, and I 41 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 2: know that's punitive and harsh, but this is Manning. I 42 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 2: joked before the game. Family dinners are events I don't 43 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 2: want to hear he was nervous. It was more than that. 44 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 2: It was kind of jarring, was it not. 45 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I specially think if you bought into i don't know, 46 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: like the superheroification of him over the spring in summer, 47 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: you think about this. He has only just now become 48 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: a college football starting quarterback, and you and I have 49 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: talked about him over half a decade, so we've knowne 50 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: about him six years and now I don't think we've 51 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: ever said that about anyone. So I go out there 52 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: in the spring watching practice, feel my way around the building. 53 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: Sarks really just open about stuff, especially when you get 54 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: him off the record that staff, and that wasn't oh, 55 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: we're worried about it. The feedback was we really hope 56 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: that the world's realistic about what we're doing here, about 57 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: what we're gonna put on the field, because they never 58 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: expected it to be like you know, the preview magazine, 59 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: culture expected it to be. So it wasn't a shock 60 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: to me that they tried to ease him. Man. I 61 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: think the jarring part for me, I was up there, 62 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: I was standing on the field is you didn't even 63 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: have to watch secondary line of scrimmage. If you just 64 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: put your eyes on him. You could tell the moment 65 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: the ball came out of his hand that's not a 66 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: good ball and that's not going anywhere fast. So I 67 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: think that part you get rattled, and at that point 68 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: you're playing a good defense, so you feel like you 69 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: can just win a rock fight and we'll tuck it 70 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: back in. We'll go back home, we'll play a tomato can, 71 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: we'll get ready for our trip to Florida, I think 72 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: is their next really big game. So it wasn't is 73 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: jarring to me because I never did the Heisman thing 74 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: with him. I never did the arch manning number one 75 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: picking the draft this upcoming year. My whole stance on 76 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: him was and it still is, He's gonna be a 77 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: pretty good quarterback this year, and anything above and beyond 78 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: that great. But it's Texas. You don't have to carry 79 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: them for that matter. Nusmier doesn't have to carry LSU 80 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: club thing, doesn't have to carry Clemson. A lot of 81 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: these guys have really good supporting cast. He has got 82 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: racehorses around him. I questioned whether there's speed at wide 83 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: receivers quite what it's been. But the whole concept of 84 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: Texas is We're going to load the roster up. Just 85 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: make good decisions, be big in the leverage moments. He 86 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: was not that in week one, but you know you 87 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: got a much bigger safety net under you now because 88 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: of the structure of the playoff. 89 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll get to a chance. You know. I 90 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: think first glances matter. And I followed high school recruiting 91 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 2: not as much as I used to, just because I 92 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: have more things on my plate. But I'll just say 93 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 2: I don't know how good Michigan is. I love Oklahoma 94 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 2: this weekend. I think if you can look at Oklahoma's 95 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: depth chart, that defense is juniors and seniors. That is 96 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 2: an old team. They're at home. They got a lot 97 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 2: of twenty two year old guys and materears, very talented quarterback. 98 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: I think Oklahoma's going to have a day. But my 99 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 2: first glance is at Bryce Underwood on YouTube and high 100 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: school and last week, Josh, that's like whoa, whoa, whoa. 101 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 2: That is magic, And I know he's going on the road. 102 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: Now. 103 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 2: You needed about four snaps. I really think Underwood is 104 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 2: a lot of these five star guys. I never bought 105 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 2: into Quinny yours. I mean, you know, in southern California. 106 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 2: I've heard a lot of five star recruits, and I'm like, 107 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 2: I don't buy it. I always say LA recruits fives 108 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 2: of four, fours of three. They get overhyped. But I 109 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: like Oklahoma this weekend. But what were your interpretations of 110 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 2: Bryce Underwood? 111 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: Better than I thought he'd be, and I had really 112 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: high expectations for him. I do not throw around the 113 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: G word. Okay, generational, you should use that about once 114 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: a generation. I believe that's the definition. He Even the 115 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 1: guys I trust in the scouting world, the ones that 116 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: assignate the star ratings, even when I listened to them 117 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: coming up, you know, the ones who are really careful 118 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: with their language, they said that one's just different. Go 119 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: watch him, and he did. I don't think he came 120 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: to a lead eleven. So I went out there. I 121 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: didn't get to see him in person, but eventually you 122 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: get to see his high school stuff. Okay, it's high school. 123 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: He goes to Michigan. I know it was New Mexico. 124 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 1: Ninety nine percent of the country didn't watch the game. 125 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: I don't care if it was air. There is a 126 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: way that superstars look. It does not make it does 127 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: not take mountains and mountains games and games of film. 128 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: You just look at it and you say, WHOA. Now, 129 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: that's not like you said. It's not a guarantee that 130 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: he's going to go light the world on fire this week. 131 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: In fact, it could overinflate him to where he tries 132 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: to do too much on the road against a Brent 133 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: Venables defense, which is made like the tours of the 134 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: world look inferior in your spect. So I'm with you 135 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: on the Oklahoma sort of dynamic this weekend, But long term, 136 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: here's the way I viewed Michigan this whole year. They 137 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: are not good at receiver, so they do not have 138 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: the pass catchers to probably have him fully feature himself. 139 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: But what is going to happen is everyone is going 140 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: to see what you and I are talking about eventually 141 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: because it'll play out on the big stage, and they 142 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 1: are going to be I think, a portal magnet for 143 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: wide receivers after the year. And I'm I'm viewing Michigan 144 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five three, twenty twenty six prism because I 145 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: think twenty twenty six they're right in the national championship conversation. 146 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know that far ahead, And they're not 147 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 2: good at receiver. By the way, if you go look 148 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: at Jim harbaughd recruiting through the years, he's never had 149 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: good receivers. He didn't have them with Andrew Luck got 150 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: in San Francisco, he had Michael Crabtree and that was 151 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 2: about it. Michigan. I mean there were a run defense squash, 152 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 2: you know, eat the clock up. But the ball comes 153 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 2: out of Bryce underwards hand fast, very differently. It just 154 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 2: doesn't look like other kids, all right. So much like 155 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 2: the arch Manning topic. I my question with Belichick and 156 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 2: I and a friend of mine, Yan Rosseillo, and I 157 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: got on this years ago, about seven years before Belichick 158 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 2: got bounced in New England. Rosillo and I used to 159 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 2: his joke, were like, he can't draft. He's sitting there 160 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 2: with his dog and nantucket on his iPad, and I'm like, 161 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 2: he can't draft. And I people, and so what happens 162 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 2: in the NFL, And it was Pete Carroll's undoing a 163 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 2: little bit in Seattle where there are coaches Jimmy Johnson 164 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 2: and Sean Payton who are really really Sean McVay really 165 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 2: good with personnel, They really have an eye for it. 166 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: Then there's guys like Kyle Shanahan, who I think are 167 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: great play designers and play callers, I don't love their 168 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 2: personnel view. And then there's Belichick, who sort of tone 169 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 2: deaf to offensive personnel. I don't think he's tone deaf 170 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 2: to schemes because he's the best defensive coach of my life. 171 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 2: But his last seven years in New England, I mean, 172 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 2: they got a punter who was an All Pro. That 173 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 2: was it. They couldn't draft anything interior, O line, sideline, quarterback. 174 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 2: So my question was why should I trust him in 175 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: the transfer portal. I didn't like him drafting college kids. 176 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 2: And when I watched Carolina, one of the first things 177 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 2: after the first series that jumped out to me is 178 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 2: TCU either had much better coaches are much better players. 179 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: Because the ore a lot of guys running free in 180 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 2: the second half. I mean, I mean pulling away from 181 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 2: safeties and pulling away from linebackers. I just didn't see 182 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 2: the talent. Now again, the transfer portal, you're getting used 183 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 2: cars a little bit. You know, if Georgia wants to 184 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 2: keep a guy, they're going to keep a guy. I 185 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 2: thought it was again, is it possible that Bill's not 186 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 2: the listen Saban was a brilliant personnel. 187 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: Guy. 188 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 2: I don't think Belichick is am I wrong? 189 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: No, I mean I actually wish I did disagree with you. 190 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: I completely agree with you. I looked at the dynamic look, 191 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: I mean, take a step back for a second. So 192 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: I didn't even understand the circus around it. Period. I 193 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: got when Dion came to Colorado, that is a massive 194 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: circus coming to town, not even in a pejorative way. 195 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: I got that a lot of people in my world 196 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: made this huge deal about Belichick coming in North Carolina, 197 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: and I maybe I just don't pay attention enough to 198 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: like mainstream sports talk. So I didn't get it. But 199 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: that's just me, that's my personal preference. So then I 200 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: start hearing these rumblings like, boy, they got a workable 201 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: schedule this year, and I started to pick up what 202 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: people were putting down cause the connotation there was ooh, 203 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: they could do something this year, and I was I know, 204 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: the personnel they have, it's terrible. And so I was 205 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: looking at it saying, what are you saying about the schedule? 206 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: Come out and say it. No one wanted to say it. 207 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: So I finally got some people to admit, yeah, I 208 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: think it's Belichick, it's a workable schedule. He could Yeah, 209 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: I got the cattle prode theory. He could cattle pride 210 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: college football this year. I was like, if that's your 211 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: expectation for him, you're in for a very rude awakening, 212 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: and so is the rest of America. Like I didn't 213 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: get it initially. I thought people understood he's coming in there, 214 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: and you know, it's a big show and it's going 215 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: to raise the profile of Carolina football, but the expectations 216 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: largely to do what Caroline has done. I was so 217 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: tone deaf on it when I realized people's expectations were 218 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: he's actually gonna llevate them to the level of maybe 219 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: a fringe playoff contender. I was so out so quickly 220 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 1: on it for fifty different reasons, but one of them 221 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: is the one you talked about. I never talked about NFL. 222 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 1: College football is my space. But I didn't think he 223 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: did a great job at all of the personnel side 224 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: of things the last several years he was in the NFL, 225 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: or he'd probably still be in the NFL. And then 226 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: the next part of that is, all right, if you're 227 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: telling me that you want him to be more than 228 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: a seven or eight win per year on average guy, 229 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: which is Carolina football historically. Well, that means he's got 230 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: to do better in talent acquisition. And that also means 231 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: you got to beat Clemson for kids, You got to 232 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: occasionally beat Miami or Florida State for kids. He's just 233 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: not going to do that. I don't know if you've 234 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: gotten in the weeds a little bit and read some 235 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: of the stuff that I've been hearing for months. Has 236 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: now sort of started to go public about the impressions 237 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 1: that recruits or portal kids have had, the experiences they've had. 238 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: They don't know how to do it, man, And it's 239 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: no knock on him. They've never had to do it. 240 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: Think about it, like if you're watching right now and 241 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: you're mainly an FL and like you just dip your 242 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: toe into college Nick Saban, I think's the best to 243 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: ever do it. He got to his early seventies after 244 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: a lifetime in college football, lifetime of mastering talent acquisition, 245 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: and he said, this isn't really for me anymore. Belichick 246 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: at the same age, is trying it for the first time. 247 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: He's older than any three of his players come by, 248 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: and he's trying that for the first time. I never 249 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: even gave a passing thought to oh, this will work. 250 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: Of course it won't work. I was stunned and still 251 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: am that people think it will work. 252 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and what's interesting about you know, in 253 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 2: pro football you draft the player, but in college football, 254 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 2: the player selects you. So if you're around Nick Saban, 255 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 2: he's funny. I've been around him a couple of days. 256 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 2: He's funny. Mario Cristobal, Dan Lanning, they're dynamic men. Brian Kelly, 257 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 2: they've got the personalities you have to sell. Yes, yeah, 258 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 2: they're salesman. And by the way, it's it's not all. 259 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 2: They do bills better schematically than a lot of guys. 260 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 2: But there are almost I mean, you'd have to go 261 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 2: back to Don James Washington in the seventies and eighties, 262 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 2: where a guy was fairly personalityless and was a really 263 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 2: good recruiter. And I always thought James was doing it 264 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: with coaching and staff composition. Their personnel was good. I 265 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 2: don't think it was as good it's never been. It 266 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 2: was even in Don's best heyday. They had a couple 267 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 2: the Steve Etman defenses were stacked, but basically they did it. 268 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 2: They were just the smartest staff he had. Just you know, 269 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 2: they always had the best special teams, kind of like 270 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 2: Frank Beemer. They beat you on special teams in defense. 271 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 2: You never thought it was the most creative offense. But 272 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 2: you get him in Blacksburg, get him in Husky Stadium. 273 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 2: They won a lot of games. But by and large, 274 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 2: Belichick is kind of grumpy. Mike Lombardi a smart guy, 275 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 2: he's got that sort of Jersey gruffness. It reminds me 276 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 2: a little of Charlie Weiss Remember when he thought he 277 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 2: had this schematic advantage. And after a while, you're like, Charlie, 278 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 2: you're your O line, your D line, and Notre Dame 279 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 2: should be onlinemen. You're not pulling, you're not pulling the players. 280 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 2: And I think it's got to Charlie Weissfield. 281 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: I am telling you one of the lines point blank 282 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: that a head coach gave me top fifteen like playoff 283 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: caliber program. He said, you know how biggest slap in 284 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: the face it is to listen to the media. Tell 285 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: us a guy who has never coached College of Day 286 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: in his life in the last several decades is going 287 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: to come teach us something like Bill Belichick's gonna come 288 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: teach college football something. He said, college football will teach 289 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: him ten times more than he's about to teach college football. Calus. 290 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: The other thing about it is the insinuation is guys 291 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: are either schematics guys x'es and those guys or their 292 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: talent acquirers. Sometimes that's true. Sometimes it's an A or 293 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: a B. When you get to the higher portion of 294 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: the college football pyramid, I know this shot some people colling, 295 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: some have both. George's got both, like like Clemson's got both. 296 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: They can get the talent better than you. They can 297 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: also out coach you. So unless you're going to go 298 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: and really convince me that you're gonna out recruit in 299 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: which you're not, or you're going to out develop them 300 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: and scheme them not once or twice in your career. 301 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: You may do that, but you got to do it 302 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: about ten or eleven times in a year to be 303 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: able to get to the playoff, then I'm out on 304 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: them achieving anything more than Carolina Football historically. 305 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 2: As I think the SEC. You know, every time the 306 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 2: SEC loses a game, you know it's like this guy 307 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 2: is falling. Listen. LSU went into Clemson and one that's 308 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 2: a really big boy football win. The SEC is going 309 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 2: to be fine, but I do think there is a 310 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 2: distinction between the SEC. The Big Ten now is better 311 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 2: than it was five years ago, no question, and the 312 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 2: SEC is still really good. But losing Saban, you know, 313 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 2: it's like losing Lebron James in the Eastern Conference going west, 314 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 2: it's not the same conference. The Kalendi Boor thing is interesting. 315 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 2: When he was at Washington, there was an understanding. It 316 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 2: was one of and I just read this the other 317 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 2: day somewhere where coaches, you know how coaches sometimes pro 318 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 2: scouts and pro coaches will come to college stuff in 319 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 2: off season, and people were saying about Kaylin de Bor, 320 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 2: why are you leaving Man? You got no pressure up here. 321 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 2: And they love college football in Seattle, but they got 322 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 2: the Seahawks and the Mariners. It's a bigger city, and 323 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 2: they said, man, you got it made up here. And 324 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 2: I think it is hard. It's one thing to replace 325 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 2: Nick Saban, but I think the Boor's personality is the 326 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 2: pole ropposite. And I think the program had a certain 327 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 2: urgency and intensity built in by Nick. And I don't 328 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 2: think they tried to divert from that. I just think 329 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 2: Kaylen de Bor was the best candidate. I think Alabama 330 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 2: sort of liked that sometimes, you know, dialing it up 331 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 2: on the sidelines, getting in players' faces. They weren't offended 332 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 2: by that. You see Kirby smart to do it in 333 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 2: the South, that's much more understood where it's just more 334 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 2: intense and they get more restless that it's louder with 335 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 2: the media. But I made the argument today, I'm not 336 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: sure Kaylin's a great personality fit. I watched Jim mcelwaine unravel, 337 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 2: I saw eat up urban Meyer's health, and I do 338 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 2: wonder if Klan Maybe. I think he's a terrific coach, 339 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 2: but he may be better at Michigan right like he 340 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 2: may be better at like Washington and Michigan. It does 341 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 2: feel different than Alabama, and it's what makes it's what 342 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 2: separates Alabama from the other program. I always said, Ohio 343 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 2: State's the only SEC team North. It's different in Columbus 344 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 2: than Ann Arbor. I wonder about Kaylan I just the 345 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 2: more I read, I mean, I think he's safe. I 346 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 2: mean I guess I should start with that. Do you 347 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 2: think he's safe for now? 348 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: Safe? Yes? 349 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 2: Okay, so, but but is it possible personality does matter some. 350 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 2: I mean, Kirby Smart, that's an sec personality. He's just 351 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 2: gonna sell it to you straight. Or do you think 352 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 2: kaylen to Board just turns this puppy around in three weeks? 353 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: Ah, boy, this is a pregnant pause. So so I 354 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: don't know if he's going to turn it around this year. 355 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 1: I got to tell you so to get back to 356 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: the personality thing for a second, that was one of 357 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: my suspicions. You know, I remember when he took the job, 358 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: like I know him pretty well, So when he took 359 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: the job, after all the dust settled, you know, I 360 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 1: go down there a few times a year. I'll go 361 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 1: down there and watch him practice. I'll go down there 362 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: and watching scrimmage. I'm sitting there in his office with him. 363 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: And what I wanted to know was the whole taken 364 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: over for a legend thing, not what you're saying at 365 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: the press conferences. Like I wanted to know to I 366 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: shoot with me, how do you view that? And to 367 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: you know, not like ruin confidence or anything like that. 368 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: But he couldn't have cared less about that. What he 369 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: wanted to make sure he had was the proper resources. 370 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: Because he is a one percenter. He may have a 371 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: different personality than Saban, but please, like anyone, watch and 372 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: make no mistake, he when you open the hood on him, 373 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: is every bit as competitive as the highest level achievers 374 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: in this sport. What he looked at is not who 375 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: am I taking over for. What he looked at is 376 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,479 Speaker 1: am I going to be given everything I need to win? 377 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 1: Because I know what the expectation level is going to be. Now, 378 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 1: I will say there is no substitute for jumping in 379 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: the freezing cold water. When you jump into it, anyone's 380 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: body is going to lurch. So I think he has 381 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: had a bit of that. But you don't want to 382 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: take over for a legend thing in college football has 383 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: always needed an asterisk next to it that it hasn't had. 384 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: You didn't want to take over Penn State post Paterno, 385 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: even without the off the field stuff. You didn't want 386 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 1: to take it over because he's stuck around twenty years 387 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: past his prime. So you had a rebuild on your hands. 388 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: Bowden FSU, you were going to have a rebuild on 389 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: your hands with sky high expectations. Saban's last game was 390 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: a playoff game, so you had a pretty full covered Yeah. 391 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: You know, guys like him look at it and say, well, 392 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,719 Speaker 1: my words, not his screw who was here before? Like, 393 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: I'm a one percenter too. I wake up in the morning, 394 00:19:58,119 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: look in the bathroom mirror. I think I could be 395 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: the great of all time if I'm being given what 396 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: I need. Now, he's got this demeanor that is the 397 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: antithesis of that attitude, and that's kind of what you're 398 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 1: talking about. A lot more laid back, and when you've 399 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 1: watched Saban roam the sidelines for fifteen years and you know, 400 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: scream at female trainers because the water's not full enough. 401 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: Then you get Kaylin de Borr and there's music at practice, 402 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 1: and it's a bunch of anecdotal stuff. It's a bunch 403 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: of straw man stuff that if you won, would be 404 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: a credit to him. But because he loses is a 405 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 1: detriment to him. But I think now this is where 406 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: rubber meets the road. You could get away with what 407 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: happened last year because there is a little bit of transition. 408 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: They did lose some He looked like you don't replace him. 409 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 1: There was some staff churn as well. You cannot in 410 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: any circumstances half what happened against Florida State, and so 411 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: you know, again you let the dust setle a little bit. 412 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: You ask around Colin. I think they were stunned by it. 413 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: I don't think they're coming. I was down there a 414 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago watch them scrimmage. It was war. 415 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 1: It was unbelievable. It was every bit of physical as 416 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: a Nick Saban practice, as a Kirby Smart practice, to 417 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 1: the point where they I thought they were getting guys hurt. 418 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: I thought they were about to get guys hurt before 419 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: the season started. And the reason I mentioned that is 420 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: because it was the total antithesis of what we saw 421 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: against Florida State. Guys look slow, guys look timid. Guys, 422 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: didn't look physical, didn't look tough, and it was so 423 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: jarring because I know my eyes didn't lie to me. 424 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: I'm standing there with football minded people and we're all 425 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: in agreement. Right, this is a pretty pretty physical practice, 426 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: pretty impressive looking secondary. So I think they were just 427 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: as stunned by it as anyone else. So they got 428 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,719 Speaker 1: U El Monroe this weekend, but they go to Georgia 429 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: within the month like they are going to play LSU 430 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 1: this year. They are going to play Tennessee this year, 431 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: And there are so many questions in the South right now, 432 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: everyone else hates Obaman, they love this, and then the 433 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: Bama folks hate what they saw and they're trying to 434 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: figure out, like, do we defend this guy or do 435 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: we not expose our ourselves to getting our feelings hurt again? 436 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 1: Do we call for his ouster? And in reality, everyone 437 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: wants to know one reason, one reason why it happened, 438 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: one sound bite, one snapshot. It's probably thirty seven small things. 439 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: And that's the trouble because you can't fix thirty seven 440 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: little small things in a week. I just I am 441 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: dumbfounded by what I saw against Florida State. Now, I 442 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: will say this, I think Bama's the first one and 443 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: not the last one to be kind of exposed. They 444 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: just happen to play quality enough competition in week one. 445 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 1: It could be we got some top fifteen, top ten 446 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: caliber teams elsewhere that just happened to be favored by 447 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: forty in week one, and so they're tougher competition and 448 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: maybe their exposure period is still to come. But I 449 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: got to tell you, man, it's hard to trust a team. 450 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: I picked them to win the national title, so it 451 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: was a tough Saturday for me. 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I mean it 505 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 2: was less miles. He used to build good old lines. 506 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 2: That thing was just Notre Dame. Couldn't get a pass rush. 507 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 2: And my kind of takeaway is the SEC has always 508 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 2: needed the state of Florida and I'm like, I'm not 509 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 2: sure Mario was letting a lot out of Dade County 510 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 2: because that in Norville. I looked at those teams, I'm like, 511 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 2: hose boy, this is real football. And I remember when 512 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 2: I was in Vegas out of college, they used to 513 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 2: put the Florida Florida State game on it nine in 514 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 2: the morning out west. I'm not joking. That's how college 515 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 2: football has grown. Now you have you know, you have 516 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 2: the Big Moon kickoff, but for about fifteen years there 517 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 2: was a hole early in the day. That's why Fox 518 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 2: went after it. I mean, it used to be college 519 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 2: football biggest game. They put at nine in the morning, 520 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 2: and it's all of a sudden, Oh, Wright, this has 521 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 2: a big audience. We got to push this back in 522 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 2: the afternoon. But when I was watching Miami this weekend, 523 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 2: I've always felt, Josh, there's three glamour programs in the country. USC, 524 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 2: Texas and Miami. Doesn't mean they're the best, but they're 525 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 2: glamour programs. Their sex appeal. Austin, Coral Gables, Los Angeles, 526 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 2: they feel different. Kirk kurve Street once said when Carroll 527 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 2: was at USC, he goes it's not pro, but it's 528 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 2: not college either. It's somewhere in the It's somewhere in 529 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 2: the middle. So I'm rooting for Lincoln Riley. I'm I'm 530 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,479 Speaker 2: you know, I'm I'm really rooting for Mario Christobal and 531 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 2: Steve Sarkshan Is Miami, I mean Notre Dames legit. I 532 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 2: mean they jumped out to a twenty one to seven lead. 533 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 2: I thought that thing was going to get ugly. I mean, 534 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 2: Carson Beck has time. I always feel like it's hard 535 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 2: not to be legitimate college or pro Penn State this year. 536 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 2: If you have a dominant offense in line could be 537 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 2: the Eagles or the line into the Ravens in the NFL, 538 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 2: it could be Penn State this year. And I watched 539 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 2: Miami's O line, Josh, and I'm like, oh, they can 540 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 2: play with anybody if you Carson Beck may not be great, 541 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 2: but with time, I don't know. My interpretation of Miami 542 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 2: was they're gonna be a handful. 543 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: First off, think about what you just said about the 544 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: glamour programs, And there was an extended stretch there where 545 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: college football is just surging, surging, surging, USC Texas and 546 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: Miami or nowhere to be found that doesn't disprove your point. 547 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: What it says is, imagine the turbo booster that adds 548 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: to that scalability if they're all collectively. 549 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 2: Did you see the U Did you see the Texas 550 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 2: Ohio state number today? Seventeen million people watch nude Man. 551 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: Unbelievable, big new kickoffs going nowhere, Dude, Yeah, that was unbelievable. 552 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 1: I've always defended the noon kickoffs. I love them because 553 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: I can get home that night and the sunburn on 554 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 1: the forehead is still there from Saturday. But I loved it, 555 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: so I remember when it was. It was like before 556 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 1: their Wake Forest game. Last week. I flew down to 557 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: Miami to visit with the staff, watched practice. When I 558 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: go to Miami practice, Mario brings you right out there 559 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: on the field. You stand right behind the line of 560 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: scrimmage during live during good on Good, and he says 561 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: he's just point, He's just he's giving you play by play. 562 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: As practice is going on, he says, I want you 563 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: to watch something. I want you to keep an eye 564 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 1: on seventy. So seventy. I don't have my eye on him. 565 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: He's in my peripheral vision. It's a kid named mark 566 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: el Bell. It is now their starting left tackle. He 567 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 1: is a six nine, three sixty at this point. Last year, 568 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: he says, watch this. We got this kid out at 569 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: Juco in Mississippi. So he steps in. I've never seen 570 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: humanity like that. I've just never seen humanity move like that. 571 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: He said, not this year, next year. Just just circle 572 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,719 Speaker 1: number seventy next year. So you got Francis malanoa at 573 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: right tackle, who's a sure fire first day NFL guy 574 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: left tackle. The other night, I think a lot of 575 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: the world got introduced to MARKL. Bell. They have built 576 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: that thing. They have built that offensive line the way 577 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: that you would expect Mario Christaball to build an offensive line. 578 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: But what ate them up last year was the obvious. 579 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: They wasted cam Ward, just like LSU wasted Jaden Daniels 580 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: a couple of seasons ago. LSU course corrected with their 581 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: defensive hires, and now they're reaping the benefits. Mario went 582 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: to Minnesota and got Corey Heatherman, and first thing I 583 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: asked him, is is it a two year thing? He said, no, 584 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: We're about hit the portal. We will get this thing fixed. 585 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: And so, okay, everyone can say that they get through spring, 586 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: they get halfway into fall camp. I check in again 587 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: and a lot of the feedback from Miami Colin was running, 588 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: game's going to be there. We've got no question about 589 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: Carson back. Everyone questioning him. They'll be silenced soon enough. 590 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: But I kept being told watch our secondary because that'll 591 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: be the key to our season. Because we could not 592 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: stop anything through the air last year. We think we 593 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: hit on all these guys out of the portal, and 594 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: if we're right, it is the portal, so it craps you. 595 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: But if we're right, then there's no limit to what 596 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: we can do this year. So one game sample size 597 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: new quarterback and CJ car on the road. There wasn't 598 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: a lot of business to be had through the air 599 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: against them the other night either. And so if that's 600 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: the case, if they hit on quarterback early, early returns 601 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: are they did. If that secondary is even just a 602 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: net neutral, much less a positive, they are like the 603 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: Swiss army Knife. That's what I prefer in a team. 604 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: To pick them, I want to know that you could 605 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: win a game thirty eight thirty one if you need to, 606 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: I love you in a nineteen sixteen slugfest two. They're 607 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: the kind of team that's very multifaceted, but I don't 608 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: want to get excited because consistency and performance has bitten 609 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: them late game situationals and hitting them. So again it 610 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: is trust but verify with Miami. But if they are back, 611 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: think about what we saw from Clemson the other night, 612 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: not a conference game, but think about what we saw 613 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: from Georgia Tech. Clemson goes two Tech in a few weeks. 614 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: Think about the ac seam Florida State. Miami goes to 615 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: Florida State within the month. Like the ACC is about 616 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: to have the volume turned up on it really quick, 617 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: and I cannot handicap that thing right now. That thing's 618 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: up in the air. 619 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, Mario struggled on the road at Oregon. He did 620 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 2: not struggle in recruiting. He did not struggle at home. 621 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 2: He would go on the road. Sometimes it's clock management. 622 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 2: We saw it against Notre Dame a little dubious. But 623 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 2: I love Miami and it fires me up. Let's end 624 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 2: with this. And by the way, for the regular listers 625 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 2: of my show, when I noticed Josh paid over two 626 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 2: years ago, I had told people, I'm like this kid. 627 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 2: He even knows West Coast football and a lot of 628 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 2: southern college football. Writers don't really follow it and you do, so. 629 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: They don't go out there. They don't go out if 630 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: they'd go to what I had to go to a 631 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: Washington game to get it. But when I went for 632 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: that Oregon game a couple of years ago, I got it. 633 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: When I went to a Utah game, I got I 634 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: love it out there. 635 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 2: Now. 636 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: People in the South think I'm lying when I say 637 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: that I ain't lying about it. Man, it's unbelievable. If 638 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: you can get out there. It's just I grew up 639 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: in rural Georgia, so you know, Seattle might as well 640 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: be on the moon, Eugene might well be rushing to it. 641 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: But if you ever get out there, it's awesome. 642 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 2: So I like Lincoln Riley, I know him. But if 643 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 2: you don't follow recruiting. Until a year ago, they really 644 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 2: didn't aggressively recruit Los Angeles and it was very off 645 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 2: putting to the people here. You know, it'd be like, 646 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 2: you know, Kirby Smart ignoring Georgia. Now they've gone full 647 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 2: bore into it and they have one or two or 648 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 2: top three recruiting class in twenty twenty six as a 649 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 2: lot of Southern California kids, as it should be. I 650 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 2: think kids, when you recruit the local kid, mom and 651 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,959 Speaker 2: dad are in town, they're less likely to get in trouble. 652 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 2: Mom and dad read the paper. I like the local kid. 653 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 2: You know they're showing off of their buddies and their friends. 654 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 2: You get away from home. Sometimes it's just it can 655 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 2: change a young man's personality. I don't know if Lincoln 656 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 2: Riley can create a culture. I know we can coach. 657 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 2: I mean he twelve wins, eleven wins, nine wins, eleven 658 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 2: wins at Oklahoma. I mean he took over USC. I'm 659 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 2: here to tell you, man, they had about twenty eight 660 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 2: I was told this by somebody on Lincoln stat They 661 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 2: had about thirty guys that could play at USC, and 662 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 2: very few were good. Their best players were Kayleb Williams 663 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 2: and Jordan Adison, and they were coming from other programs. 664 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 2: But I don't know if he's a culture builder. I've 665 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 2: watched last year they go to Maryland. I mean they 666 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 2: led in almost every football game. They couldn't close games out, 667 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 2: and closing games out is fundamentally about physicality. It's a 668 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 2: seven minute drive. Winning games comes in a variety of forms. 669 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 2: Closing games out when you lead is physical football, three 670 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 2: first downs, close it down. They couldn't do it. Their 671 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 2: running back room is good. Do you have the same 672 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 2: doubts I do about We know he can call plays, 673 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 2: we know he's clever. I didn't even like their quarterback 674 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 2: at UNLV when they got it, I thought, like I 675 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 2: watched him in the opener, I watched them last year. 676 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 2: I'm like, well, he's better than he was at u 677 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 2: on LV. I just I didn't think he was an 678 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 2: elite player. But the reports out of USC is Lincoln 679 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 2: really likes him. But do you have concerns about USC 680 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 2: and culture building because there's a lot of I mean, 681 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 2: what makes Sean mcvayh great is not the schematics. Is 682 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 2: the guy maybe five to ten, he feels like he's six'. 683 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 2: Eight he's like he walks. There he's Half Abe, lincoln 684 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 2: Half Nick. Saban you, know he's like he is Half Warren. 685 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 2: Buffett like its just big And lincoln can got to 686 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 2: be soft, spoken kind of be feel sometimes indifferent to 687 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 2: certain kind of. Conversations where do you land on, HIM. 688 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: I think you have to Be you're in a really 689 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: unique position because you get to be in the room 690 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: with a lot of those guys at the college. LEVEL 691 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,919 Speaker 1: i get to sit down with all of. Them most 692 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: people don't get. That most people may find themselves at 693 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: some meet and greet one on one with their head, 694 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: coach but they don't have the comparative analysis. ABILITY i 695 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: agree with your assessment about. Him it is the TWO 696 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: i got two big questions about. Him one is the culture. 697 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: PIECE a lot of noise coming From Breton vennables in 698 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 1: the past couple of week about what they inherited. There 699 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 1: you could pass that off the sour. Grapes he could 700 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: be shooting to you. STRAIGHT i think it's worth paying attention. 701 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: To and so When lincoln goes TO. Usc thus far 702 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: what you described is what makes a great, coordinator but 703 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: he's not the coordinator. There he's a head. Coach so 704 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: you got to be able to do more than just 705 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 1: call plays and coach a. Position it's about getting, talent 706 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 1: it's about developing the. Talent, now one piece that they 707 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: did is when they went and Got Chad, boden THE 708 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: gm From Notre. Dame we're going to take in state recruiting, 709 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: seriously like that was going to get turned. UP i 710 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: am very interested to see whether proof of performance on 711 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: the field this year is necessary to keep that class. 712 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 1: Together that's one thing That i'm. Watching the other thing 713 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: That i've Asked chad about, This i've asked, him do 714 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 1: you talk about like locking down the, city locking down the? 715 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: State do you really think there's enough line of scrimmage 716 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: talent in the state Of california the Question he, said, 717 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: YES i disagree with, that but you know he's RUNNING. 718 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: Usc i'm. Not but even and even if all the talent's, 719 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: there even if all the players are, THERE i have 720 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: never thought that that one possession loss metric is. Randomized 721 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: turnovers sometimes are. Randomized the, Dude nebraska kept losing one 722 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: possession games because they didn't know how to win GAMES 723 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: usc last year the five fourth quarter leads that they. 724 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 1: Lost that's cause they didn't possess the ability to take a. 725 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: Game and then go look at you go look At 726 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: Kirby smart in one possession. Games he's got an incredible 727 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: record that's not by. Accident so the question is do 728 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: you just flip that once you get better. Players you 729 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 1: may have less one possession games when you have better, 730 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: Players but the bottom line is even the best of the, 731 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: best we're eventually going to find themselves in those, positions 732 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 1: and you start talking playoff instead of let's make a. 733 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: Bowl that's a tight. Rope walk one hundred feet off 734 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: the ground instead of ten feet off the. Ground you 735 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,240 Speaker 1: fall ten. Feet it hurts you fall one hundred street. 736 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 1: Pizza so what you said is still in the back 737 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 1: of my, mind totally. Fair AND i don't think anyone INSIDE. 738 00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 1: USC i don't Think lincoln himself can really put back on. 739 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: That cause if he's, honest if you inject truth serum in, 740 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,439 Speaker 1: him he knows what it comes down. To you got 741 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 1: to prove. It you don't say, it you got to prove. 742 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 2: IT i was talking to A usc booster today AND i, 743 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 2: said That illinois, game that's it's. 744 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 1: It that s, it that's the damage. 745 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 2: Game they're not winning To, oregon that's, okay they're probably 746 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 2: not winning. 747 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: It Notre. 748 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 2: Dame they're gonna win their home. GAMES i, SAID i 749 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 2: don't know if they can win In illinois if it's 750 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 2: thirty nine degrees or forty two or. WINDY i said 751 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 2: that that is the kind of game where In illinois is. 752 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 2: GOOD i, THINK i mean they. BRETT i mean this 753 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 2: year they would turn a lot of guys on their, 754 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 2: lines offensive. LINE i think they may return four or five. 755 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,800 Speaker 2: Starters illinois is my dark horse team in the. COUNTRY 756 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,439 Speaker 2: i don't think they're, great BUT i think they're really 757 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 2: good and they're going to knock people. Off and if 758 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,879 Speaker 2: it's forty, Four i'm Taking. Illinois i'll tell you right. 759 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 2: Now if it's forty two forty, Four Lincoln riley has 760 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 2: not proven he can win that game with. Discomfort Josh, 761 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,280 Speaker 2: pate what a. Pleasure we're gonna make this a regular 762 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 2: thing On wednesdays for our. AUDIENCE i hope you guys 763 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 2: enjoyed it listening as much AS i. DID i just 764 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,760 Speaker 2: have great admiration for your, prep your. Intensity you're obviously 765 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 2: a very bright. GUY i love your work AND i 766 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 2: want to say thank. You and this is the start 767 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 2: of a lot of these sit, downs AND i loved. 768 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,439 Speaker 1: It love, it, Man love you. BROTHER i appreciate you having. 769 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 1: Me can't wait for the rest of the. Year the 770 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 1: volume