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Speaker 1: It's now time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with Blue,

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Speaker 1: Joe Grande and Mark and Craig Wasserman the Pot Brothers

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Speaker 1: at Law. We are the world's number one podcast for

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Speaker 1: everything cannabis.

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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one. Mo

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Speaker 2: name is Blue.

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Speaker 3: Alongside of him is the world famous Pot Brothers in

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Speaker 3: Law and mister Big Joe Grande and you are now

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Speaker 3: too to the greatest cannabis show in the universe, in.

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Speaker 4: The world, I say the galaxy. This time we're getting bigger.

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Speaker 5: I think you're all correct.

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Speaker 3: Hey, well, we have an amazing show for you guys today.

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Speaker 3: And Joe, why don't you let him know what's going down?

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Speaker 4: Craig Washerman at one, Christopher Right is blue, and I

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Speaker 4: am at Joe Broande fifty two. And today we have

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Speaker 4: a very special guest with us. You guys. His name

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Speaker 4: is Legendary, hence Frank the Legend Shamrock my legend. He

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Speaker 4: is a CEO, keynote speaker, he does TV phil producer.

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Speaker 4: He's a martial arts master, yes he is, but most

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Speaker 4: of us remember him as one bad motherfucker. I mean,

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Speaker 4: this dude would just ground and pound you. Frank Shamrock

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Speaker 4: was the first to hold the UFC Middleweight championship and

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Speaker 4: retired a four time defending undefeated champion. Frank Shamrock was

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Speaker 4: the number one ranked pound for pound UFC fighter in

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Speaker 4: the world during his reign as the UFC Middleweight Champion.

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Speaker 4: Frank Shamrock, it's always great to have you and talk

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Speaker 4: with you again. Brother. How are you.

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Speaker 6: I'm doing great, nice to be here.

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Speaker 7: It's good to have you on it.

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Speaker 4: Before we chop it up with you and talk about

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Speaker 4: cannabis in this article I just read with you talking

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Speaker 4: about how you use cannabis throughout your whole career. I

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Speaker 4: want to throw a question around the room, is all

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Speaker 4: of us are in different places. Frank, you're in the

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Speaker 4: Bay Area. I'm assuming correct. Well, thanks for calling and

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Speaker 4: checking in and hanging out, and I appreciate that, you asshole.

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Speaker 4: But we're all in our separate homes in southern California

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Speaker 4: as well. But what do we all miss about COVID nineteen?

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's getting deep now. We've been months

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Speaker 4: inside the house, months doing our show remotely, and let's

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Speaker 4: start with you.

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Speaker 7: Markare at what point, you know, do you want to

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Speaker 7: just say screw it and let me just live my life?

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Speaker 7: How are you feeling? What do you miss the most?

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Speaker 8: Well, you know what I'm I'm almost almost at that point,

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Speaker 8: but you know, I'm still listening to the health and

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Speaker 8: safe the health experts and the science scientists and everything.

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Speaker 8: But that question, what do I miss most? You know,

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Speaker 8: there's there's so much. There is so much, but to

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Speaker 8: Saturday prior to this, every Saturday night, without fail, me

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Speaker 8: and we've I don't even know how long we've done that.

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Speaker 9: It's been so long.

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Speaker 8: We do every Saturday night, and uh that that's something

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Speaker 8: that I really really miss that I'm looking forward to.

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Speaker 9: Uh, you know your.

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Speaker 4: Wife doesn't listen to the podcast, right, so you don't

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Speaker 4: need to score brownie points, Mark.

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Speaker 8: Oh no, actually, actually she will listen to this one

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Speaker 8: because this morning we got into a fight.

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Speaker 9: So make sure this is it. Hey, life is life.

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Speaker 8: Oh come on, we're we're in quarantine with our spouses

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Speaker 8: for how long? I mean, somebody out there saying they

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah that is What about you, Blue?

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Speaker 4: What do you miss the most?

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Speaker 2: You know what I missed being naked in public?

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Speaker 9: Nobody else does, no, you know what?

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Speaker 3: Honestly, man, I I enjoy you know, going out, you know,

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Speaker 4: Man I hear that, Craig, before we find out what

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Speaker 4: As I keep reading on your ig, people keep commenting

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Speaker 4: how many laps is he's swimming now as we've been

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Speaker 4: following you on this quarantine, as you started swimming your laps,

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Speaker 4: Frank Shrmrock just let you know. You know our friend

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Speaker 4: He's at, you know, fifty eight years old, and he

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Speaker 7: He started at three laps he was able to do.

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Speaker 4: Now, Craig, where are you at with your laps? Before

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Speaker 5: Nineteen twenty five laps?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's and it's a cool I mean, the COVID

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Speaker 5: that swimming is the best. What I miss most, I

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Speaker 5: got a It's like blue man. It's just it's the

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Speaker 5: It's the fucking hugs. You can't hug, you know. It's

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Speaker 5: We went on a motorcycle ride this weekend. We actually

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Speaker 4: That is a tough one. What about you, Frank, What

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Speaker 6: I missed just hanging out, hanging out in the backyard,

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Speaker 6: finally finished up the spiding career. I finally retired. I

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Speaker 9: Work out all the time, and nowhere to go. Maye,

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Speaker 9: what about you, Joe?

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Speaker 4: I actually missed the most, you know, with me having

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Speaker 4: they do more than just me being able to watch

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Speaker 7: It's like all in one.

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Speaker 4: I get to hang out with these guys that I

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Speaker 4: So it's that camaraderie of doing things with my kids

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Speaker 7: Them play sports.

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Speaker 7: We're just gonna start doing some more jiu jitsu.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna come back and talk more with Frank Shamrock,

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Speaker 4: the Legend, So let's break real quick, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 7: It's Frank.

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Speaker 4: I won.

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Speaker 7: Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one on one.

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Speaker 4: On the show today, we got a special guest with us,

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Speaker 4: Frank the Legend Shamrocks. He was the first to hold

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Speaker 4: And it's crazy, Frank, to you to say this and

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Speaker 4: barely come out now with it recently, because I'm thinking

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Speaker 4: what a burden that must have been for you to

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Speaker 4: when you're looking at this as medicine and people would

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Speaker 6: Yeah, totally. I mean it was a total bummer. And

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Speaker 6: the last two weeks would be horrid before a championship

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Speaker 6: it was a performance enhancer, and it was a way

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Speaker 6: the pain. Fighting in a cage is very painful, very painful.

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Speaker 9: Oh yeah, oh yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean whenever I watch it, every time there's a strike, throwner,

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Speaker 2: Like, how that got to hurt?

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Speaker 7: That's off of the TV.

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Speaker 9: The calf kicks, the calf kicks, Like, that's got to hurt.

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Speaker 7: Why come out the closet now? Why come out of

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Speaker 6: Now?

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Speaker 5: Someone it's so unfortunate that it's falling on deaf ears

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Speaker 8: Absolutely. We are here with Frank the Legend Shamrock. He

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Speaker 7: But you finished going back to cannabis.

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Speaker 4: Although Mark Frank, if you could turn on your phone

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Speaker 6: Just just trial and error, you know, it wasn't something

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Speaker 6: No, no, they all thought I was crazy and they

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Speaker 5: But the point I wanted to bring up was that,

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Speaker 5: to be able to smoke for all those years, thirty years,

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Speaker 3: You know, do you still work Are you still working out?

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Speaker 7: Walk Frank and doing all these things.

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Speaker 4: Now that you're retired, do you ever reflect.

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Speaker 7: Back to your career.

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Speaker 4: And I always thank you for allowing me to go

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Speaker 4: on that trip with you for that fight. But as

439
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 4: you reflect now that you're retired, do you look back

440
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 4: and think who is it better to fight for? Data White,

441
00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 4: Scott Kocher when you were retired came back, What do

442
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 4: you look at and what do you think of when

443
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,400
Speaker 4: you think of those different entities that you fought with.

444
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 6: Well, for me, it's not even so much the entities.

445
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,640
Speaker 6: I mean I loved fighting for Scott and the UFC,

446
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 6: they all were great, But for me, it was the

447
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,719
Speaker 6: performances themselves, because each one was like a personal, you

448
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 6: know journey each you know. Fighting Tito, I mean he

449
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 6: was a monster. I mean even my own brother was like,

450
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,720
Speaker 6: don't fight him time, he's going to crush. Oh that

451
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,719
Speaker 6: was my brother. So I only fought him once. And

452
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 6: then my brother Ken fought him three times and he

453
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:41,680
Speaker 6: beat He beat Ken all three times, but I beat him,

454
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 6: so it's just. And then when I fought Phil like,

455
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 6: I blown my knee out, and so you know, everybody,

456
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 6: even my doctors, like, there's no way you can do this.

457
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,919
Speaker 6: So for me, it was a huge spiritual and personal

458
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,679
Speaker 6: experience to be able to meditate, to be able to

459
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 6: call myself, to be able to go no, I have

460
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 6: to do this for my career, for my brand, for

461
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,399
Speaker 6: the sport, and then to walk in there when you know,

462
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 6: basically it was impossible to win and to find a

463
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 6: way to win. And so when you come out of

464
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 6: moments like that, from personal experiences like that, that's what

465
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,199
Speaker 6: I when I'm walking down, when I'm hiking, that's what

466
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 6: I think about, is how on earth, you know, did

467
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 6: I do that? But everybody has that power to sort

468
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 6: of reach deep inside to do what they think is impossible,

469
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 6: to sort of overcome these things. And now, I mean,

470
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 6: you know, it's certainly paid off. I'm you know, spending

471
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 6: my days in leisure, hiking in the forest with my

472
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 6: little girl, enjoying.

473
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Speaker 9: The good life.

474
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 8: We're here with Frank the legend Shamrock one bad motherfucker,

475
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 8: like Joe said, retired for a time to send the

476
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,640
Speaker 8: undefeated champion. Man, it's a pleasure to have you here.

477
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 8: I want to talk a little about your childhood because

478
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 8: you had a pretty rough childhood coming up, and that's

479
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 8: kind of what led you to fighting in the ring,

480
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 8: as I understand that you didn't do too much fighting

481
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 8: outside of it when you were younger, although you got

482
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Speaker 8: into a lot of try.

483
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 7: Maybe in jail.

484
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 6: I got a couple of beefs when I was in jail. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

485
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 6: I had had a tough childhood. I grew up in

486
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 6: a broken home, in an abusive home, you know, addiction issues,

487
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 6: with all kinds of issues, and I found a way out.

488
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 6: When I was eleven years old, I threw rocks at

489
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 6: a train and that got me sent to juvenile hall.

490
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 6: Throwing rocks at a train in California is actually a felony,

491
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:25,919
Speaker 6: and so they took me from my home. I ended

492
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 6: up doing ten days in juvenile hall. And when I

493
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 6: was eleven years old, I was talking all the bad

494
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 6: kids and they were telling I was asking them, he

495
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,400
Speaker 6: how do you deal with this locking in the closet thing?

496
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 6: And do you guys have to live in the backyard.

497
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 6: And as I'm saying these things, they're looking at me

498
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 6: all horrified. And I realized that my childhood was not

499
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,479
Speaker 6: that good. And so I found that crime was the

500
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 6: tool that took me out of that home. And I

501
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 6: leaned into crime like you wouldn't believe, which worked out

502
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 6: great until I ended up in prison when I was seventeen.

503
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 6: And then I ended up doing a good, good stretch

504
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 6: of time. I did three and a half years from

505
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 6: seventeen to twenty one, and then you know, I just

506
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 6: I found a mentor while I was in that group

507
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 6: home system, Bob Shamrock, and Bob Shamrock, you know, gave

508
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,199
Speaker 6: me great advice. He was my first father figure. He

509
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 6: told me to vest in my body, my mind and

510
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 6: my spirit, and you know, to keep training basically. And

511
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 6: when I got out, you know, this sport had just started,

512
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,919
Speaker 6: and you know, my dream was always to be a champion,

513
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 6: a sports champion. So even though I was afraid to fight,

514
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,199
Speaker 6: even though you know, made me very nervous to be

515
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 6: in a situation like that, I had the machine for

516
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 6: it and I had the faith, and I went for it.

517
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 9: How did you feel that.

518
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, Bob did that. He would be so mad at me,

519
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 6: but his whole thing was and this is one of

520
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 6: the things that kept me in it is you know,

521
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 6: he said, hey, as long as you're doing your stuff,

522
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 6: long as you taking care of your business, I don't

523
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 6: care what you do.

524
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

525
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 5: I get parents to call me up that no I

526
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 5: use weed or smoke cannabis, and they say, oh, my

527
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 5: seventeen year old or eighteen and I wants to smoke.

528
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 5: And I said, you know what, tell them exactly what

529
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 5: you just said is what I tell people. If they're

530
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 5: doing everything they're supposed to be doing, what's the problem.

531
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 5: And when people say cannabis makes you lazy, we say, no,

532
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 5: you're a lazy ass who uses cannabis.

533
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 6: You're lazy. You're lazy.

534
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 5: Cannabis does not make you lazy. And we have an

535
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 5: example right here that shows that, I mean, couldn't be.

536
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Speaker 4: All of you guys are examples. You and your brother

537
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 4: as well, Craig. I mean, don't just give Frank the

538
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 4: credit for being an athlete. For sure, as are very

539
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 4: successful lawyers. He's a very successful CEO of his company.

540
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 4: All three of you guys are examples of stoners at

541
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 4: the peak of their stoneage age and being very successful.

542
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 3: Well, guys, we're listening to Frank Shamrock, actually the original Rock,

543
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:51,719
Speaker 3: the legend Shamrock right, weighing in at what is it?

544
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 2: Two oh five? Standing five ten?

545
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 6: I wish is that? I wish I'm eighty six pounds,

546
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 6: But we never told anybody that. We just let them

547
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 6: think that was a lot bigger. But I'm actually about

548
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 6: one hundred and eighty five pounds or so.

549
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 8: Well, a lot of the guys you bought looked looked

550
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 8: a lot bigger than you, and you just they were.

551
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 6: Yeah. But when I started, there was no weight classes.

552
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 6: I was the first weight class champion, and that weight

553
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 6: class was one ninety nine point ninety nine and below. Wow,

554
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 6: So every single human being was bigger than me. I

555
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 6: used to eat a full meal every night at eleven

556
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 6: thirty when I went to bed, Wow, because it was

557
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 6: the only way to maintain the weight. And it gave

558
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 6: me crazy dreams like I had the crazy little eat

559
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 6: a little crazy dream all night and then wake up

560
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 6: a Wow.

561
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 4: Frank UFC just had a fight with no fighters have

562
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 4: had a few. Now I'm wondering would you partake in

563
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 4: something like that? Or what are your thoughts on it?

564
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 4: You know that the UFC is actually doing it, how

565
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 4: tough would it be mentally for the fighter or does

566
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 4: he even even play a factor?

567
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 6: Well, what's funny is because I started in Japan and

568
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 6: back in the nineties, the crowd didn't cheer. It wasn't

569
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 6: it wasn't socially cool. You didn't cheer, You didn't express yourself,

570
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 6: you know, verbally in a social setting unless you had

571
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 6: an intimate connection with someone personally, so they would just

572
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 6: politely applause and go ooh ah. And so what's amazing

573
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 6: about is you actually get to hear your corner in depth.

574
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 6: And the hardest part for me being a rock star

575
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 6: is to go out have this, you know, fifty thousand

576
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 6: people screaming and you're trying to hear your corner. So

577
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 6: it's actually be a huge bonus as as an athlete

578
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 6: competing right now to not have your crowd.

579
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 5: It was interesting listening to the corner. You could hear everything.

580
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 5: It was awesome.

581
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I would prefer it because that's all I'm

582
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 6: trying to do is filter out my wife's screams and

583
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 6: then here here the corner man tell me.

584
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 9: What's to Frank.

585
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 8: You mentioned that you you were scared to fight that

586
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 8: very first time you fought professionally. How was that, How

587
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 8: did you prepare prepare yourself? And how did you get

588
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 8: through the fears you might have had going in.

589
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 6: I was very afraid, and I had lots of meditation. Luckily,

590
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 6: I had all that time in prison to sort of

591
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 6: make up my mind and you know, sort of decide

592
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 6: like I have to have to go do this. And

593
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 6: for me it was even scarier because I went to

594
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 6: Japan for my first fight, and I went to Japan

595
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 6: for two months to finish my training. So I went

596
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 6: from Folsom prison to shin Yokohama, Japan and lived there

597
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 6: for two months while on parole and finished my training.

598
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 6: So it was terrifying. It was literally terrifying, I would say.

599
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 9: In Japan.

600
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, back in the day, it was the only

601
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 6: place you could be employed, and so we were able

602
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 6: to prove that it was gainful employment only available in

603
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,239
Speaker 6: this certain area and I had to go or it

604
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 6: was a disadvantage to me.

605
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 4: That's the way it worked, the system, Frank, the legend

606
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 4: share rock. What fighters are you enjoyed watching now? Do

607
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 4: any of them remind you of yourself.

608
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 6: Well, Henry Souta reminds me of me because he looked

609
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 6: exactly like me. My little brother, your.

610
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 7: Son who knows.

611
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 6: Everyone says he might be my son. He might be

612
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 6: my little brother. I really like I liked what the

613
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 6: girls are doing, you know. I like the old school guys.

614
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 6: I like John Jones. You know, I see I see

615
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 6: a little bit of me and all of them. Because

616
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 6: I was the first, you know, complete mixed martial arts guy.

617
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 6: I was the first guy to really like Bruce Lisa,

618
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 6: you know, thought to create a system and then to

619
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 6: use that system effectively so there's no weaknesses. So when

620
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 6: I watch them today, I'm like, ah, I remember when

621
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 6: we figured that one out, and I remember when we

622
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 6: tied that together. And back in the day, I could

623
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 6: see the spaces between the styles. And that's how I

624
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 6: set all those records and beat all those guys. Is

625
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 6: you know, their minds were stuck in one area. And

626
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 6: because I was studying so much, and because I was

627
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 6: trying to connect all the styles, I could see where

628
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 6: the things didn't connect and where there was weaknesses.

629
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Speaker 4: It's a trip that you say that because I was

630
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 4: mentioning that to the guys and thinking about your history and.

631
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 7: Following you early on in your career.

632
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 4: How you did bring it all together, right, So you're

633
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 4: kind of the as this Michael Jordan's Special was out

634
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 4: the Last Dance, You're kind of the Michael Jordan of

635
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 4: the UFC and Mixed Martial Arts in my opinion, because

636
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 4: like you said, you brought it all together. So that'll

637
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 4: be said if we do, because I think I'm gonna

638
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 4: produce this now that I just think about it, We're

639
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 4: gonna do the Frank Shamrock Last Dance.

640
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 7: What would you call yours instead of the Last Dance?

641
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 7: What would Frank the Legend Shamrocks Special be on ESPN?

642
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 7: What would you do it?

643
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 6: Hmm? I would call it something to do with warriors

644
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 6: like warriors Path or Journey, or something to do with

645
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 6: warriors and.

646
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 4: Warriors Path and Journey.

647
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 9: Yeah.

648
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 5: I think Frank what he put together, I mean, Michael

649
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 5: Jordan was great, don't get me wrong, but I gotta

650
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 5: put Frank above that. As far as putting together I

651
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 5: mean several, I mean all these different styles, ground and pound,

652
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 5: stand up strike, I mean, everything he put together is

653
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 5: something that didn't exist Michael Jordan may have taken basketball

654
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 5: to another level, may be able to see things on

655
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 5: the court, blah blah blah, but he didn't put together

656
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 5: a complete system that would go on to decimate everybody

657
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Speaker 5: in his path. So props to you.

658
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 2: Wow.

659
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 9: And and you're doing cannabis.

660
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 5: So in between when you're putting all this together, let's

661
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 5: bring it back to cannabis, when you're putting up, when

662
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 5: you're doing all this and thinking how do I put

663
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 5: this with that and how do I you know, these

664
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 5: combinations in these different styles you were you were using.

665
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 6: Cannabis, correct, totally. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah. And I know

666
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 6: for a fact that being in a very relaxed state

667
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 6: of mind, you know, not being in pain, you know,

668
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 6: not having certain fears, you know, feeling a certain way.

669
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 6: I know for a fact that those those are some

670
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 6: of the things that helped me, you know, envision what

671
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 6: hadn't been seen yet, you know, to help finish this

672
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 6: system and create the system because everyone else is you know,

673
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 6: stoned out of their mind on you know, percosets, and

674
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 6: they can't feel anything. You're basically their body is dead.

675
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 6: And you know, I feel good and my mind is

676
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 6: still very active, and my mind is still very creative

677
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 6: and it was a very creative process to come up

678
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 6: with this stuff. It's also terrifying when you're the guy

679
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 6: coming up with the system because there's nobody to ask,

680
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 6: there's nobody that knows. And I knew that nobody.

681
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 5: Can't do it wrong, then there's no wrong way.

682
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 6: But it's usually you know, your coach can guide you,

683
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 6: and your coach you know, hey do this. But I

684
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 6: realized my coaches didn't know, and so it was up

685
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 6: to me to sort of come up with the strategies

686
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 6: and come up with the systems. And to be honest

687
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 6: with you, that's terrifying. Imagine going to war and as

688
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 6: a soldier you're making all the decisions. And that's how

689
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 6: it was for me.

690
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 3: Sure, Frank, let me ask you this, you know, what

691
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 3: do you what do you think about the UFC? Two

692
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 3: part questions, do you think the UFC is is leaning

693
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 3: towards the cannabis used for their for their fighters?

694
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 2: And two? Where is the UFC going right now?

695
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 3: And are you happy with where they're where they're aheaded,

696
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 3: you know as far as from when you were in the.

697
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, they're definitely moving towards you know, a cannabis friendly

698
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 6: environment because you know, they see the results. Everybody's using

699
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 6: you know, CBD, everybody's using oils. People are figuring out

700
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 6: that it does protect your brain and you can help

701
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 6: protect your brain. So they're definitely getting more friendly about it.

702
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 6: But really that's up to the commissions, and that's up

703
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 6: to you know, the people that sort of oversee that

704
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 6: testing side, you know. And I love where the sport

705
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 6: is at, like my dream. I mean, I was the

706
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 6: first spokesman, so my job was to get us on cable.

707
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 6: My job was to get us on network. My job

708
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 6: was to grow this thing until it was on ESPN.

709
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 6: So when I see it on ESPN now it's like,

710
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 6: you know, we made it. You know, this is where

711
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 6: we're supposed to be because it's it's one of the

712
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 6: most exciting and interesting sports. And for me, you know,

713
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 6: I didn't I didn't play on teams. It was me

714
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 6: and my coaches you know, against the other their side.

715
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 6: So there's something very special about singular competition and what

716
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 6: that does for the human spirit and what you see

717
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 6: when that happens, you know, for the individual and then

718
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 6: for the crowd as well.

719
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 7: And like you said, you took me to the next

720
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 7: levels they had I used to watch you.

721
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 5: Let me ask one more question here, one more question

722
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 5: for me. Would you it would be kind of funny though,

723
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 5: Do you think they'd ever ban it because it's it's

724
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 5: enhancing you as you know, like other steroidss like that.

725
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 5: It's like they're gonna say, wait, it's it's not fair

726
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 5: because you're you're taking cannabis that I'm.

727
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 6: Not well that if they were smart, they'd figure that out.

728
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 6: But I don't think they're ever gonna even get to

729
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 6: that mindset. For me, it was a total enhanswer. Like

730
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 6: for me, it was a secret weapon because every night

731
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 6: I slept good, I wasn't in pain, I could train longer,

732
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 6: I could, you know, think better, I could think more creatively.

733
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 6: So yeah, I mean they're certainly in our argument that

734
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 6: could be said for that.

735
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 3: Well, guys, you're listening to iHeartRadio with Frank Shamrock. When

736
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 3: we come back, we're gonna have the high five right

737
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 3: here on Cannabis Talk one on one.

738
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Speaker 2: We'll be right back.

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00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 9: Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one on one.

740
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 8: I'm Mark Wasserman and little brother of the Pop Brothers

741
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 8: at Law with my big brother Craig Big, Joe Grande,

742
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 8: Am Blue, and our special guest Frank the Legend Shamrock.

743
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 8: And right now it's special thanks time to our producer

744
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 8: Elvis el Social Media, Jennifer and Sophia and David Wasserman

745
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 8: at iHeart for helping us get this podcast up and

746
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 8: out to the whole world. And a very very special

747
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 8: shout out two.

748
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 9: Big Boy and Boy because that guy deserves it. And

749
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 9: everyone who supported Cannabis Talk one on one. We truly

750
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 9: appreciate you.

751
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 8: Now back over to the guy you called Joe, but

752
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 8: I call him the Round Mound of Radio.

753
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 9: It's time for the high five. Take it away.

754
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 4: Well, we have Frank the Legend Shamrock on with us. Frank,

755
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 4: it's always a pleasure to catch up with you. Like

756
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 4: I said earlier on, I just want to thank you

757
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 4: again for the memories. I have a picture up on

758
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 4: my wall literally in my office of me, you, Maurice

759
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 4: Smith and Javier Mendez in the back, and I'm looking

760
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 4: at it right now and I literally have that picture

761
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 4: up in my office and I put it everywhere in

762
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 4: anywhere I've moved to, so you're always a part of

763
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,439
Speaker 4: my office. Just to let you know you're always with me, brother,

764
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 4: So thank you very much. And there's a picture of

765
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 4: me holding the belt behind your head after you won

766
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:38,439
Speaker 4: that fight.

767
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 9: He can we do a high five?

768
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 2: Joe?

769
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 9: Enough about you.

770
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 5: Show, not the Joe show.

771
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 4: Okay, sorry about that, Frank. How old are you the

772
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 4: first time you smoked? And where did you get it from?

773
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 6: I think I was about nine or ten years old,

774
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 6: and it was from my neighbor across the way. He

775
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 6: had a little brother. There was an older brother, and

776
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 6: the older brother smoked and I knew the smell from

777
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 6: my My mom was like a hippie, so I knew

778
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 6: the smell, and so me and the younger brother went

779
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 6: into his ten speed zip open pouch. We found we

780
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 6: found some green and we smoked it. I remember the

781
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 6: first time. Yeah, I probably was ten. I might have

782
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 6: been it's about ten.

783
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 5: What I think you've already answered this? But what is

784
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 5: your favorite way to use cannabis?

785
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 6: For me? It's smoking. Smoking is the best. It's the

786
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 6: fastest delivery source. It's the easiest, most functional and works

787
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 6: the best for me because I got pain and I

788
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 6: need it gone like immediately.

789
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 7: Is it a joint, a pipe, a bong?

790
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 6: Which way whatever, whatever's closest. Yeah, whatever gets near the hand.

791
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 2: Question number three.

792
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Speaker 3: Of the High five on cannabis Talk one on one

793
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 3: with Frank Shamrock.

794
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: Craziest place you've ever used cannabis?

795
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 6: Oh wow, definitely on the airplane. Nice, definitely on the

796
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 6: air Yeah, no, no, no pop commercial. We flew back

797
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,720
Speaker 6: from Japan one time and the Dutch guys had given

798
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 6: me some give me some weed. But it was pure white.

799
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 6: It was nothing but like crystal white weed. Like it

800
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,720
Speaker 6: was the strongest thing you've ever experienced in your life.

801
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 6: And so I went to the bathroom with a can

802
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 6: and I took one hit, one hit, and I was

803
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 6: and I was, I was just like ah, like one

804
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:29,959
Speaker 6: hit and I was back to sleeping again.

805
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, one hit, wonder one hit.

806
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, that Japan ride is ten hours. You got a

807
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 6: settle in.

808
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Speaker 9: The cannabis top one O one High five.

809
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Speaker 8: We're here with Frank the Legend Shamrock UFC Middleweight Championship

810
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 8: retired a four time defending undefeated champion. Here is question

811
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 8: number four of the High five. What is your go

812
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 8: to munchies after you get high?

813
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 6: Oh? I like chips. I loved ships in anything salty

814
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 6: to me. It's it's something to do with the salt

815
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 6: and the crunch and the whole the.

816
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, I like.

817
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 6: But anything Cheetos free do's he like? Any any anything

818
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 6: that crunches and munches like that's you should be a fat.

819
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 7: Guy, Frank, because you're way too spoke to be a

820
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 7: lot of Frank rock.

821
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 4: If you just smoke weed, cannabis, whatever you want to

822
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 4: call it, with anyone dead or alive, who would it be?

823
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 6: Bob Marley Man?

824
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean but why why? What is your

825
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 4: reason for Bob? Of course you could have many, but

826
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 4: what is your reason for Bob Marley?

827
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 6: Well? I think he used the medicine in a very

828
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 6: spiritual way and it enhanced sort of his music and

829
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 6: his life, and to him it was, uh, you know,

830
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 6: his medicine part of his religious culture. And to me,

831
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 6: that's where this started from. You know, eons ago, you know,

832
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 6: some some guys wearing skins were running around and they

833
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 6: found this medicine and they realized it was good for them,

834
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 6: and so they started incorporating it into their culture, into

835
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 6: their lifestyle and to their medicines and awesome.

836
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 4: Before we wrap up to I want to ask you

837
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 4: one more question. Is there anybody out there that you

838
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 4: would not regret but say, you know what, I want

839
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 4: to get your ash in the ring one more time.

840
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 4: I know I'm retired, I know you're retired, but let's

841
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 4: just you know, ground and pound for a minute. I

842
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 4: still want to give you a couple of punches.

843
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 6: The only guy that I didn't get to with Sakaraba

844
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,720
Speaker 6: in Japan, and that just you know, too many players

845
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 6: were in the way. And then and then my brother

846
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 6: Ken like him and I had beef for years. We

847
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 6: were going to work it out, and then that fell

848
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 6: apart as well. So as I look back, you know,

849
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 6: we grew up fighting. We grew up in a culture

850
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 6: where if you had a beef, you dealt with it

851
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 6: and then you hugged it out. Yeah, and so you

852
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 6: know that's moment and.

853
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 7: Your brother said it best on that special.

854
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 4: I loved the special by the way, on Spike TV

855
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 4: with you and your brother and the whole meeting up

856
00:40:58,800 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 4: and stuff.

857
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 7: Like families fight for free all the time.

858
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 4: Every day, kick each other's mark and Craig, you can

859
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 4: hear them fighting outside their office on a daily basis.

860
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 7: Maybe let them get some money for it.

861
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 2: For God's sakes, we're gonna charge you next time.

862
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 5: Joe.

863
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 9: What are you watching and eating popcorn? Over there?

864
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 6: Hey?

865
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 8: One more thing that that we do have to do, Joe,

866
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 8: And you mentioned it at the beginning of the show.

867
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 8: Our script and something that we we like to leave

868
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 8: with our guests.

869
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 9: And and do you even know it?

870
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 8: You know, Frank, do you know what me and my

871
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 8: brother teach people across the country about dealing with law enforcement?

872
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 6: To shut the fuck up? Right?

873
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 5: Ultimately, that's right, shut the fuck ultimately, that's the takeaway.

874
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 8: But our script is a simple twenty five words, and

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Speaker 8: we like to make sure everybody knows it. So me

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Speaker 8: and my big brother will do the daily script review. Ready,

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Speaker 8: big brothers, do it all right? What do you say

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Speaker 8: when the cops first pull you over?

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Speaker 5: Why'd you pull me over?

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Speaker 1: Sir?

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Speaker 9: And when they start asking questions.

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Speaker 5: Not discussing my day or evening, and.

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Speaker 9: And they keep asking more questions.

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Speaker 5: Being detained or am I free to go?

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Speaker 9: And if detained, what do you say?

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Speaker 5: I invoked the fifth.

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Speaker 8: And then when they get in your face and intimidate you,

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Speaker 8: try to scare you and lie to you and say

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Speaker 8: whatever they want and ask you more questions.

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Speaker 9: What do you do?

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Speaker 5: I shut the funk up, shut the fuck up, and

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Speaker 5: ultimately shut the fuck up, and cops ask questions.

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Speaker 8: So, Frank, we teach that just across the country. What

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Speaker 8: do you think about that?

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Speaker 6: I love it because I've always dreaded that day when

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Speaker 6: they would pull me over and be like, why does

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Speaker 6: your car smell like a bunch of cannabis?

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Speaker 9: You're not disgusting my day?

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Speaker 8: And Frank, you know what, We've actually created this poem

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Speaker 8: that wait, if Frank the Legend wants to hear it might.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, hold On.

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Speaker 7: Just wants the poem?

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Speaker 3: Hey, guys, leave a comment below, you know, I mean, hey,

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 9: Want Frank the Legend punch me in the face.

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Speaker 7: But where are you gonna go?

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Speaker 4: I can swoop twenty five laps now, I'll bet your

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Speaker 4: assed right.

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Speaker 9: Well. As much as I hate doing it, here you go.

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Speaker 8: Am I being detained? Or am I free to go?

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Speaker 8: This is what to say, my lawyer tells me. So

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Speaker 8: the cops are out there doing a job. Sometimes they

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Speaker 8: must contain a mob, a thankless job that saves many lives.

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Speaker 8: At their home are worried children, husbands and wives. But

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Speaker 8: does that give them the right to stomp on my rights.

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Speaker 8: So we are here for you, the cannabis community, to

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Speaker 8: fight to let you know it's okay to just shut

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Speaker 8: the fuck up. When cops ask questions, you start with

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Speaker 8: I'm not discussing my day and with I invoked the

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Speaker 8: Fifth These ain't suggestions, these are words to live by,

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Speaker 8: to memorize. See, it's not about the size of that

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Speaker 8: cops gun because they want you to run so they

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Speaker 8: can pull that macho gun and shoot you for fleeing

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Speaker 8: the scene.

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Speaker 9: Some cops are just plain mean.

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Speaker 8: We must shut it off, shut it down, those feelings

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Speaker 8: of anger that instantly come around when that cop has

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Speaker 8: to show his power and his might without cause, without reason,

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Speaker 8: and we know they're not right. We must remain calm,

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Speaker 8: keep the devil sleeping on the left shoulder. We must

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Speaker 8: be cold, even colder. Ice must flow through your veins

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Speaker 8: to shut that heat, the blood that rush your brain

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Speaker 8: straight from your feet. When that cop disrespected you, cauz,

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Speaker 8: you wouldn't tell him what that smell was, and he

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Speaker 8: accuses you of a pot dui because he absolutely knows.

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Speaker 9: That's you're buzzed.

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Speaker 8: But see they can't tell and they don't know only

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Speaker 8: if you tell them so. Oh, officer, I smoked to

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Speaker 8: join a few hours ago. Officer, here's my medical rest. Officer,

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Speaker 8: I'm a marijuana patient. We live in America. Prohibition still exists.

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Speaker 8: That CoP's gonna do whatever he's gonna do.

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Speaker 9: Fifty to fifty he arrests.

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Speaker 8: You give us a chance to represent you with a

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Speaker 8: defense that's blazing.

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Speaker 9: Let us show you in court.

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Speaker 2: We're amazing.

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Speaker 8: But we can only do that if you listen to

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Speaker 8: our tips. Now, let me see you move your lips.

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Speaker 8: You know the drill. When the cops ask questions, we say,

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Speaker 8: I'm not discussing my day.

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Speaker 9: Am I being detained? Or am I free to go?

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Speaker 8: I invoked the fifth and then you shut I got

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Speaker 8: what I.

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Speaker 9: Was gonna say.

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Speaker 8: We have given you the script. We are telling you

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Speaker 8: what to say. We are telling you what to do.

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Speaker 8: We put your hands up in protection mode. But should

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Speaker 8: you take a shot to the jaw, we will be

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Speaker 8: fighting for the cannabis community because we are the Pop Brothers.

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Speaker 5: So before I forget, this is big brother, and I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna say, I'm gonna get the last question in, but

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Speaker 5: I can't remember it now because that was too fucking long, no.

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Speaker 6: No, no.

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Speaker 5: Actually, what we have we have a twist to the

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Speaker 5: script during the coronavirus, and imagine in your lifetime that

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Speaker 5: you would ever be able when you get pulled over

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Speaker 5: to tell the officer when he asked you. This is

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Speaker 5: the only time in the history of the script that

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Speaker 5: you go off script when you say, I'm not discussing

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Speaker 5: my day, and that's all you say. You don't say

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Speaker 5: nothing else, you don't answer any questions. But if they

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Speaker 5: ask you, oh this shutdown order, what do you cut?

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Speaker 5: What are you out for? You can actually say I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna go buy my cannabis. It's essential. Imagine telling the

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Speaker 5: cop I'm going to buy weed.

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Speaker 9: I think it's great.

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Speaker 5: Joe, what do you think You guys.

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Speaker 2: Talk too much?

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Speaker 4: I think Frank your thoughts Mark Washerton's poem that he

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Speaker 4: gives his brother credit for because he says pop brothers

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Speaker 4: that law. But that's all Mark Washerman.

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Speaker 6: I liked it. It was good. Maybe we can turn

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Speaker 6: into a rap or something.

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Speaker 3: Well, Frank, we want to thank you for joining us

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Speaker 3: on Cannabis Talk one on one.

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Speaker 2: It's been amazing having you on the show.

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Speaker 3: And if you're listening out there, make sure you share

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Speaker 3: this because it's important to hear from leaders like this

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Speaker 3: man right here.

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Speaker 2: He's a legend in the game.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: It's Cannabis Talk.

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Speaker 1: One on one.

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Speaker 2: Remember this. If no one else left you, we do peace.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to Cannabis Talk one on one

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