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Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life,

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Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,

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Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party.

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Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after

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Speaker 1: the party. It's the bridge to get you from one

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Speaker 1: full episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard, to

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Speaker 1: dig into the dirt, and our mission is to uncover

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Speaker 1: the story. On this bonus episode, we're taking a walk

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Speaker 1: through New York to some of the coolest rock and

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Speaker 1: roll history addresses with Bob Dylan and Sid Vicious, the

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Speaker 1: Rolling Stones, Marty Scorsese, Miles and Iggy Jackson and Nico Yoko, John,

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Speaker 1: the IRA, the FBI, and more, plus your voicemails, tech emails, comments, dms,

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Speaker 1: and as always a whole lot of Rosie. This is

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Speaker 1: the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent

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Speaker 1: thinkers who know that the best history is the history

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Speaker 1: that gets buried. Disgraceland is where I tell the stories

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Speaker 1: I am here, And if you're hearing an extra pep

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Speaker 1: From me honest with you. Oh, we had some Sonic

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Speaker 1: And you know that's a hallmark for being cool, not

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Speaker 1: and neither is Sonic Youth. Nancy's death, her murder by well,

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Speaker 1: there in any event. Nancy Spongeen's death in Room one

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Speaker 1: Take that Racist Cop, And thus concludes our New York

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Speaker 1: Zeth and I later in this exclusive section of this

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Speaker 1: the rewind slot right after this our episode on Jazz Buckley,

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Speaker 1: Delbert Brown sends us this email from parts unknown. What's up?

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Speaker 1: Disco's first and foremost is Lane Stay, But in true

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Speaker 1: Top five fashion artists who make me stop and listen.

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Speaker 1: Number one Lane Stay, It's a no brainer. Number two

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Speaker 1: Chris Cornell Euphouria Morning is supped on. However, his entire

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Speaker 1: discography is a lesson to any vocalist. Number three Janis Joplin,

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Speaker 1: She was incredible. Number four Freddie Mercury, I don't really

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Speaker 1: like Queen Man had some pipes on him. Number five,

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Speaker 1: David Bowie. Can many artists transport you from the streets

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Speaker 1: to utter space? Sad they aren't with us any longer,

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Speaker 1: but we are truly lucky to be able to share

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Speaker 1: the same space anytime we get to. Let one spin.

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Speaker 1: Love your work, buds, rock a rolla. That's from Delbert Brown. Delbert,

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Speaker 1: we appreciate your email, Thank you very much. Delbert's email

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Speaker 1: comes to us in response to our George Jones episode.

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Speaker 1: George Jones, he of the great country voice and the

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Speaker 1: question we asked, which artists with that golden set of

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Speaker 1: pipes makes you just stop in your tracks? Sherry Wright

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Speaker 1: writes to us again from Parts unknown. She says, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I'd love to suggest an episode on the band you

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Speaker 1: Rayah Heap. In the early seventies, they were the shit

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Speaker 1: when it came to a blend of prague and hard rock.

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Speaker 1: Their album Demons and Wizards spawned a couple of hits,

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Speaker 1: including easy Living, the track they are best known for.

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Speaker 1: The line up for that album included one of the

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Speaker 1: best male rock vocalists in my opinion, and it's a

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Speaker 1: damn shame that he and the extremely talented members are

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Speaker 1: largely unheard of by younger generations. Okay, you're Riyah Heat.

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Speaker 1: I get you, I hear you. I'm going to look

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Speaker 1: into it. I can't say that I know much about

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Speaker 1: Riyah Heat, except that I think Metallica was into them. Sherry,

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Speaker 1: thank you for the email. We appreciate you. A lot

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Speaker 1: of people write into me about Widow's Bay. I think

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Speaker 1: it comes to an end. This week, as I'm recording this,

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Speaker 1: I think, so I don't want it to end. I

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Speaker 1: don't no one else. I don't want to come to

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Speaker 1: an end these this film should be played loud podcasts

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Speaker 1: that we're making. Every time we're doing it, I look up,

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Speaker 1: it's like an hour's gone by, and I feel like

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Speaker 1: we've just barely scratched the surface of what I want

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Speaker 1: to talk about. We only do one of these a month,

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Speaker 1: and it's got to stay that way. I'm not advocating

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Speaker 1: for any more work, but I will say that I

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Speaker 1: have a blast making this show. And I've said it

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Speaker 1: before and I'll continue saying it this We played Loud

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Speaker 1: as a podcast about two of my favorite things, music

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Speaker 1: and movies. In the combination of the two. It discusses

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Speaker 1: one movie per episode and the soundtrack that accompanies that movie,

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Speaker 1: all the great needle drops, perhaps the scoring, although it's

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Speaker 1: mainly needle drops that we discussed. The last episode we

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Speaker 1: covered was on Royal Tenant Baumbs. This new episode that

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Speaker 1: we're covering is on Dazed and Confused, and we covered

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Speaker 1: this because Dazed and Confused is the ultimate last day

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Speaker 1: of school. Let's get the hell out of here, no

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Speaker 1: more teachers, no more books. Movie that you can come

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Speaker 1: up with, if there's an even close second, I'm all years.

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Speaker 1: Let me know, Matt, play the folks a clip and

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Speaker 1: share with them what they might be missing if they're

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Speaker 1: not All Access members and copying this content, which is

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Speaker 1: video content, by the way, not just audio video. Matt,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, play them a little bit. When they're chasing

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Speaker 1: the freshman through town. It's an incredible card chase. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's awesome. It's awesome. And dude, can we talk about

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Speaker 1: that black truck there in Well, it's great that black

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Speaker 1: truck is. I don't know what it is, but I

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Speaker 1: just I want that truck. Actually i've seen I want

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Speaker 1: to be a part of I want to be riding

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Speaker 1: in that fucking truck is what I want to be. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: in the launch chair on the back I think it's Chevy.

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Speaker 1: I can't recall. There's my wife loves old trucks, and

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Speaker 1: she's trying to convince me to buy this f three

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Speaker 1: point fifty from the nineties, which is incredible. I don't

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Speaker 1: have the nostalgia for it because it's the nineties and

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Speaker 1: it's literally the truck my stepfather used to drive, so

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Speaker 1: I can kind of do that way, but it's not way,

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Speaker 1: you know, but that chases it's too too fast on

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Speaker 1: those roads. But then later when they're actually going to

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Speaker 1: the Moon Tower and they're racing like that, that's completely authentic.

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Speaker 1: We would do that all the time. It's a bigger

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Speaker 1: road like they're earlier part when they're going there truck

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Speaker 1: chasing and they're fucking flying. Yeah, they're flying. It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy. All right. That's this film should be played loud.

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Speaker 1: It's on Days and Confused, And that's the new episode

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Speaker 1: that we have in your feed available for you now

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: If you want some of that hot Bob Dylan fight action,

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Speaker 1: exclusive content. All right, back after this, all right, we're

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Speaker 1: back and I'm gonna recap. But before I do that,

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Speaker 1: we're going to dip into our archive here now. Listen,

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Speaker 1: we talked about so many great artists, Miles Davis, Iggy

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Speaker 1: Pop Hell, even Martin Scorsese, Rolling Stones, Velvet Underground, Led Zeppelin,

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Speaker 1: John Lennon, Bob, Dylan, Matt will pull a couple. He'll

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Speaker 1: grab the episode information for you and dump it in

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Speaker 1: the show notes so you can easily navigate through our

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Speaker 1: massive archive to hear whichever of those episodes you want

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Speaker 1: to hear. Now, let's recap, shall we. Number one, this

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Speaker 1: week our new episode on Sonic Youth is available for

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Speaker 1: you right now. Number two, our rewind episode that you

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Speaker 1: can hear right after this is on Jeff Buckley. Next week,

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Speaker 1: our brand new episode will be on Wendy Old Williams.

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Speaker 1: That's number three. Number four zeph gives you to those

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Speaker 1: Hollywood and crime vibes in Hollywood Land, so make sure

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Speaker 1: recommendations over in the Wrap party every week in the

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Speaker 1: Hollywood Land feed. Number five, the current this film should

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Speaker 1: six one seven nine oh six six six three eight.

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Speaker 1: Your voice keeps us digging into the dark corners of

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Speaker 1: music history, so keep calling, texting in with your answers

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Speaker 1: to this week's Question of the Week, or with whatever

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Speaker 1: else you want to talk about. I'm around, I'm here

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Speaker 1: for it. Hit me out number seven, Do not forget

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Speaker 1: disc goes. This isn't just content. It's a community, a

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Speaker 1: community of the obsessed, and no one cares about music, books,

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Speaker 1: records and the crime and grime that ties them all

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Speaker 1: together like you do. And that is a disgrace, all right.

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Speaker 1: Sonic Youse Goo was released on June twenty six, nineteen ninety,

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Speaker 1: and we're talking about that date because that is the

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Speaker 1: album we're talking about in this week's full episode of Disgraceland.

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Speaker 1: And here is what America was listening to on that day,

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Speaker 1: according to the Billboard Charts. Number one, it must have

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Speaker 1: been Love from Pretty Women by rock Set last week

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Speaker 1: one peak position one weeks on Chart twelve year position

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Speaker 1: number two, Step by Step New Kids on the Block

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Speaker 1: last week four, peak position two weeks on chart five

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Speaker 1: number three, pois Cher bel biv de Vaux last week

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Speaker 1: three peak positions three peaks on Charm twelve peak number four,

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Speaker 1: hold on Wilson Phillips last week position two, peak position

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Speaker 1: on two, one weeks on show sep fifteen years isition

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Speaker 1: number five last position, quit talking, and start mixing