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Speaker 1: Welcome to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown pleased to be

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Speaker 1: He earns a lot of those, Kevin, I have to

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Speaker 1: What I wish our audience knew, Chris, and you have

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Speaker 1: like the Falcons and the Buccaneers. Well, look at major

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Speaker 1: League Baseball. I mean, you know, look at look at

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Speaker 1: let's listen, this is all doomsday stuff, but it's also

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Speaker 1: I think that that's I think that's the biggest thing.

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Speaker 1: it's like, boy, we've we've gone through so much and

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Speaker 1: we've waited, Chris, We've waited so long to be there,

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Speaker 1: and we're right there. And now, boy, if this is

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Speaker 1: what trips us up, that's going to be tough to take.

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Speaker 1: And I think, look, I mean, you know, Cole Beasley,

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Speaker 1: think Cole Beasley is probably a bright guy. So who

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Speaker 1: am I to a degree to say Cole Beasley should

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Speaker 1: be doing this even though Kevin Connors did this right away.

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Speaker 1: It's what makes it so tough. I'm for the betterment

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Speaker 1: to be behind us so we don't have to worry

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Speaker 1: about masks and all this other stuff that we're dealing.

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Speaker 1: And of course the tragic side of this, the loss

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Speaker 1: simple issue, and it's a very complex issue. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: I think it's safe to say that with all that

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Speaker 1: if an untimely COVID situation strikes? And I mean, look

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Speaker 1: the COVID reserve list, just as close contacts, forget about positives,

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Speaker 1: Star Latoula, Cole Beasley, Gabriel Davis, and Vernon Butler. Now

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Speaker 1: imagine that's in a regular season game week and those

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Speaker 1: I mean, your odds of winning are dramatically impacted by that.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question about that. So that,

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Speaker 1: I think very much is a deep seated fear on

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Speaker 1: got to feel great about the outlook for this year,

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Speaker 1: but that is one that's I know sitting in the

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Speaker 1: back of everybody's mind as a potential pitfall. Kevin Connors,

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Speaker 1: ESPN's Sports Center anchor, joining us here today filling in

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Speaker 1: for Steve Tasker, and we want to set the table

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Speaker 1: for you here before we go to break. It is

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Speaker 1: the OBL Friday fan mail Bag, So any of your

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Speaker 1: questions on the Bills, the roster, the league at large,

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Speaker 1: it is all fair game. Kevin and I will do

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Speaker 1: our best to give you a competent answer on anything

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Speaker 1: you might want to fire off at us. And we

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Speaker 1: also want to have a little fun today, so we're

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Speaker 1: doing a little fill in the blank with you. And

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Speaker 1: one because the conversation nationwide has unquestionably changed about the Bills. Kevin,

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Speaker 1: and I know you can probably speak to this because

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Speaker 1: you're not immersed in the bills myopia that we are here.

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Speaker 1: There's more of a broad based view from where you

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Speaker 1: all of your fellow employees there at ESPN, you're all

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Speaker 1: sports fans at heart, so you have your affiliations. There

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Speaker 1: is a greater respect I think now for this Bill's

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Speaker 1: franchise going forward, after the success they enjoyed last year,

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Speaker 1: running all the way up to the AFC title game.

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Speaker 1: And I will tell you it is with deep regret

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Speaker 1: I mean I'm in New England here, all right, so

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Speaker 1: I am enemy territory. And I will tell you When

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Speaker 1: our producer Jay Harris reached out to me and said

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Speaker 1: can you be a part of the show, I said, listen,

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Speaker 1: any opportunity to talk Bill's football is a good one

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Speaker 1: for me. So I'm down for three hours, baby, if

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Speaker 1: you need be in Yeah. Yeah, Look, the reality is

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Speaker 1: on a national scale, the Bills have gone from a

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Speaker 1: punchline to a legitimate Super Bowl contender, and it's a

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Speaker 1: great place to be because it's been too long that

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Speaker 1: we've been in this situation. I can tell you sitting

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Speaker 1: in Sports Center meetings, when there is a newsworthy item

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Speaker 1: to come out of Buffalo, it's treated differently than it

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Speaker 1: used to be. When there's the opportunity to lead into

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Speaker 1: an NFL segment and a certain anchor who has a

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Speaker 1: certain allegiance to the Buffalo Bills pitches the Bills angle,

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Speaker 1: it's thought of a little bit differently. It's taken with

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Speaker 1: a little bit more legitimacy. So it's a great place

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Speaker 1: to be and listen, I'm not saying anything anyone doesn't

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Speaker 1: already know. The hype is real, it's warranted, and it's

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Speaker 1: a great it's a great feeling. Yeah. So that'll be

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Speaker 1: your assignment for our next segment, Kevin, I want you

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Speaker 1: to fill in that blank. This offseason for me as

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Speaker 1: a Bills fan, has been blank. So you work on

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Speaker 1: that will remind you the listeners and viewers at MSG

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Speaker 1: and on WGR. Coming up in the second hour of

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Speaker 1: the program, we have got the wing King, Drew Sarza,

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Speaker 1: whose staff is feverishly setting things up for the weekend

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Speaker 1: here at high Mark Stadium for Wingfest, Yes taking place

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Speaker 1: at the stadium. Will get the full lowdown from him

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Speaker 1: as Kevin gets an opportunity to talk wings with us

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Speaker 1: a little bit, and then third hour of the show

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Speaker 1: from NFL Network, it is the one and only Daniel

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Speaker 1: Jeremiah who will give us his preseason thoughts and some

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Speaker 1: of his regular season prognostications as we assess the power

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Speaker 1: rankings in the AFC and what the Bills could be

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Speaker 1: up against as they run their twenty twenty one schedule

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Speaker 1: week by week. It's Kevin Connor's filling in for Steve

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Speaker 1: Tasker along with me Chris Brown. We'll be back with

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Speaker 1: more here on One Bills Live, presented by collat To Health.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown and Kevin Connors, ESPN SportsCenter anchor helping us

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Speaker 1: out here on a Friday, stepping in capably for one

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Speaker 1: Stephen a Tasker who has the day off today, and

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Speaker 1: we gave Kevin a little bit of an assignment when

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Speaker 1: we went to break there. We wanted him to fill

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Speaker 1: in the blank being a resident Bills fan up there

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Speaker 1: in enemy territory. As he mentioned, this offseason for me

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Speaker 1: you to do the same on the tweet sheet at

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Speaker 1: one Bill's Live, So feel free to do that or

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Speaker 1: give us a call at eight three, five fifty. So, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: where do you stand on that? What did you come

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Speaker 1: down on? So? I was gonna go anticipatory, but as

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Speaker 1: a guy who likes drinking beer, I felt that was

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Speaker 1: a little bit too high fluid, So instead I settled

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Speaker 1: on relaxing. Like for a change, I haven't been nervous

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Speaker 1: about whether or not this team might possibly be able

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Speaker 1: to get into the playoff conversation. I haven't been wondering

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Speaker 1: about whether or not we would have an answer at quarterback,

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Speaker 1: or whether or not that quarterback would have people to

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Speaker 1: throw the ball too. I haven't been wondering whether or

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Speaker 1: not this coach will fit this time, or if we

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Speaker 1: finally have the right front office in place. I haven't

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Speaker 1: been anxious about is this team going to allow me

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Speaker 1: to enjoy an NFL season? It's been I really like

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Speaker 1: where we are. But we had this conversation Chris last year, like,

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Speaker 1: what's a fair expectation for this team, and I said,

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Speaker 1: it's it's to win the division. That's where we are.

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Speaker 1: I think, as a fan base, where our expectation should be,

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Speaker 1: where is it now? I think it's to win the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl, and I think anything sure of that is disappointing, right,

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Speaker 1: And that really is the difference here. I think Bills

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Speaker 1: fans are no longer hoping the team is good. They

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Speaker 1: know it. And that probably explains why you use the

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Speaker 1: word relaxing. Comforting Was I was gonna? I was comforting?

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Speaker 1: Was a word that was rolling through my head. I

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Speaker 1: chose assured. I'm assured of what this team is, how

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Speaker 1: far they can take it might be still up for debate,

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Speaker 1: because we know this is very much a week to

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Speaker 1: But in the grand scheme of it, it's a good

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Speaker 1: the conference. So with that in mind, let's see what

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Speaker 1: with Bills and Mets fan who says the Bills this

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Speaker 1: offseason for me, as a Bills fan has been like

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Speaker 1: Christmas Eve, filled with anticipation of all the great things

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Speaker 1: that are soon to be here. Great talented players, tight

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Speaker 1: knit team, superior management and coaching staff, committed ownership, and

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Speaker 1: for us. Let's open the gifts. Well, that is far

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Speaker 1: more creative than you and I got there, Kevin, So uh,

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Speaker 1: good on Bills and Mets fan for doing that. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: but that goes back to the initial word you were

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Speaker 1: thinking of, anticipatory Christmas Eve. I mean that is anticipation

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Speaker 1: AFC Championship game to a team that I think that

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Speaker 1: we're here. I think we I think we're we're eyeball

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Speaker 1: Mahomes was at that point a step ahead of where

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Speaker 1: Josh was. We were, you know, don't forget the Bills

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Speaker 1: are leading that game after the first quarter, right, so,

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Speaker 1: I mean three quarters away from being in a super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: But having said that, I think that there was some

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Speaker 1: taken that next step. We belong in the conversation. Let's

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Speaker 1: can we play next week? You know, like does the

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Speaker 1: season have to end? Can we can we keep doing

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Speaker 1: that's where I am. I'm like, let's get the preseason

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Speaker 1: I think, well, yeah, And Stefan Diggs was probably the

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Speaker 1: Because he didn't want to leave the field. But I

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Speaker 1: in comparison to last, and my broadcast partner Steve Tasker

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Speaker 1: has said this umpteen number of times. Do you want

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Speaker 1: to improve and do you want to get better coming

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Speaker 1: off of last season? Yes, you do. Every season isn't

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Speaker 1: the same. You don't know what twists and turns lie ahead.

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Speaker 1: But he still maintains the Bills are already good enough

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Speaker 1: to beat the Chiefs. They just have to play better

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Speaker 1: was not the case in the AFC Championship game. The

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Speaker 1: Bills did not play their best. They were lumping people

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Speaker 1: have as consistent a punch and they did not play

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Speaker 1: their best game against the Chiefs. While at the same time, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: season long were doing just enough to win regular season games,

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Speaker 1: arguably their best executed game of the season was the

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Speaker 1: AFC title game against the Bills. I think it was

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Speaker 1: an instance where they exposed they be in Kansas City,

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Speaker 1: that Bills brain trust together and said where were we lacking?

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Speaker 1: And it was obviously we have got to pressure the quarterback.

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00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: You cannot let someone like Patrick Mahomes, whose trajectory is

646
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame the day he retires. You can't let

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Speaker 1: him sit back there and pick you apart. With that

648
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: wide receiver group that he has, it's you're gonna get killed.

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00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: So what do you see. You see the Bills go

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00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: out and they use the first two picks they have

651
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 1: in the NFL draft to go get guys who can

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00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: go get the quarterback. So there's there's no question about

653
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: that because I remember two. It's it's there are very

654
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: few teams who go from here to Super Bowl champions, right.

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00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: It is generally a process unless you're bringing Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: into the fold. And even if you bring Tom Brady

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00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: into the fold, there's usually there are usually steps along

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00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: the way. So I look at last year as like,

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Speaker 1: you know, what, would it have been great to have

660
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 1: gotten to the Super Bowl? Do I think the Bills

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00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: could have won that Chief's game? Do I think the

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00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: Bills could have beaten the Buccaneers? I do. I believe

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00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: in my heart that the Bills could have won both

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Speaker 1: of those games they didn't do. I believe that that

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00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: that was a very valuable learning experience for the majority

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Speaker 1: of guys that are in the locker room here to

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00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: start the twenty twenty one season. Yeah, let's get back

668
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: to more of the fill in the blanks here. Seth

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00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: who says as a Bills fan, this offseason for me

670
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:32,919
Speaker 1: has been long. Such high expectations for this squad after

671
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 1: nearly reaching the top of the mountain, a season ago.

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Speaker 1: Only game I went to was that dumpster fire in

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Speaker 1: Nashville last year. So I can't wait to get to

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00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: games this fall and watch our guys kill it. Hoping

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00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: the d steps up to complement number seventeen. You know,

676
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: this is a different, a completely different angle, Kevin, because

677
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: people know the team is going to be good, so

678
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: waiting to get there to see them be good on

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Speaker 1: the field. Not to mention the time that's past for

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Speaker 1: most of the fan base to be in this stadium

681
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,479
Speaker 1: across the parking lot from me with the pandemic has

682
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: made it extraordinarily long and again, and that's a that's

683
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: a fantastic point of course. You know, you you forget sometimes, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: what do you think home field advantage is going to

685
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: be like for this team? How much of a reward

686
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: for Bills fans is it going to be to get

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00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: back into that stadium and enjoy this team that we've

688
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: all been you know, through thick and Finn and believe me,

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00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: there have been thin I mean, there have been some

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Speaker 1: fin years. I mean, I we're not going out on

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Speaker 1: a limit saying that, and the fact that we're finally

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00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: good now, I'm just so glad that our fellow Bills

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Speaker 1: fans are going to be able to enjoy the experience

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Speaker 1: of seeing this team live. But but look, how about

695
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: what it speaks to. How about how it speaks to

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Speaker 1: what home field advantage would mean? Like, do you think

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Speaker 1: the AFC Championship game a season ago possibly could have

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00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: played out differently if that game's played in Buffalo versus

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Speaker 1: Kansas City. I'm not saying it changes the outcome. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think I think it impacts the outcome. But the

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00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: live you know, the live fan element is such a

702
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 1: great point. It's like, man, I'm just excited for people

703
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: to be able to see this team and to see

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00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: and hear that place rocking. Because there are a few

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00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 1: stadiums in the NFL that give you a home field advantage,

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00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 1: you know, like like high Mark Stadium. Yeah, And as

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Speaker 1: as magical as last season was, the vast majority of

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00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: Bills fans did not get to see it in person.

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Speaker 1: I mean outside of the sixty eight hundred that we're

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Speaker 1: allowed to go to the wildcard game here in Buffalo

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00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: and the sixty eight hundred that were allowed to go

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Speaker 1: to the Baltimore Divisional round game. That was it. Outside

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Speaker 1: of the people that traveled and we're allowed to be

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Speaker 1: in the stadium in Kansas City and Nashville. As our

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Speaker 1: most recent tweeter Seth mentioned, there weren't a lot of

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Speaker 1: opportunities and so having to wait basically a full count

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Speaker 1: under year to even get in a stadium to see

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Speaker 1: a game with your own eyes, up close and personal,

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Speaker 1: I think has made it long as well. We've got

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Speaker 1: to take a break here. When we come back, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna play something that is absolutely epic. I saw it

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Speaker 1: on social media. I know your guys up at ESPN

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Speaker 1: go wall to wall on the ESPN Fantasy coverage. I

724
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: gotta tip my hat to CBS with what they did here.

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Speaker 1: We're going to play it both for our radio and

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00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: television viewers. It is a fantasy football reference to the

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00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: Bills that is must listen, must see. We'll play it

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Speaker 1: for you when we come back here on One Bills Live,

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Speaker 1: presented by Kalid to Health, it's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bills Live. Chris Brown and ESPN

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Speaker 1: Sports Center anchor Kevin Honors residents Bills fan up in

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Speaker 1: Bristol helping us out on the show today. Filling in

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Speaker 1: for Steve tasker, who's got the day off today? And uh,

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Speaker 1: I mentioned this before the break, so we want to

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Speaker 1: get to it right away. You know, I was, I

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Speaker 1: was asking Kevin for more of a national perspective on

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00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: the respect that the Bills are getting. And you know,

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Speaker 1: we see little clips of Josh Allen more here or

739
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: there in NFL, you know, TS preseason videos. Uh, their

740
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: names pop up on rankings lists more often as far

741
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: as players go, as well as the team. Well, now

742
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: they have infiltrated the fantasy ranks and uh, I've got

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Speaker 1: to tip my hat to CBS. They have looped. They

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00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: have merged their fantasy coverage with their soap opera lineup. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Here is a clip from CBS which is absolutely fantastic,

746
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: mainly because it includes the Bills Stefon Diggs. Yeah, how

747
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: could you? I know you made promises that you couldn't

748
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: kids not. I just I just didn't. I didn't know

749
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: it would play out this way that I need you

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Speaker 1: to explain exactly how it happens. No, don't, don't. Don't

751
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,439
Speaker 1: don't make me relive it. The memories too painful. It's

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00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: the only way for me to understand. Well, I was

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00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: up forty points. All they had left was stefaund Diggs,

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Speaker 1: and I thought I had the title game in the bag.

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00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: I thought I had won, And then what happened Diggs

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Speaker 1: was just he went nuclear. I mean he he torched

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00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 1: every defender of New England threw at him. His routes

758
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: were so crisp, his speed was incendiary, he was he

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00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 1: was unstoppable on every level. Only you played fantasy as

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00:44:55,000 --> 00:45:02,720
Speaker 1: impressively as Diggs plays football, don't. I was two points

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00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: away from a peat and now I have nothing. Is

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00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: that not absolutely fantastic? I mean, bravo to CBS. I

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00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: believe those are two actors from their soap opera, The

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00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: Bold and the Beautiful. But oh my gosh, that is

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00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: just that is genius. How are you not? Like I

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00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 1: was cracking up the first time I saw it, the

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00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: trembling of the voice at the end. I was two

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00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: points away from repeating great. Routes were so crisp, his

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Speaker 1: speed was incendiary. Chris, And is it's so much better

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Speaker 1: than it's against New England? Right? Yeah, we're referencing the

771
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Speaker 1: New England game. Yeah it fits because a lot of

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Speaker 1: fantasy leagues, as you probably know, they wrap up in

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Speaker 1: week sixteen because they don't want to have teams fall

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00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: victim two players sitting in Week seventeen. You know, playoff

775
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: teams sit players typically that week. And to be fair

776
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: to all the parties involved in most fantasy leagues, the

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Speaker 1: championship game is Week sixteen, and this was the week

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Speaker 1: sixteen Monday Night affair as we know, and Diggs went off.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know there are moments from last year,

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00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: um and you think back to and and that game.

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00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: I can remember. I'm hearing my basement now. I can

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00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: remember watching that game in my basement and watching Diggs.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at the looking at the numbers here, Chris

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00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 1: nine catches, one yards, three touchdowns. I mean, when when's

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00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: the last time in a in a big game like that,

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00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: a Bill's player, non quarterback, put up those kind of numbers.

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Speaker 1: I mean, and I don't know I said this, I

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Speaker 1: said this on a podcast. I think it was last week.

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Speaker 1: Like for as much credit as Stefan Diggs got last year,

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00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was enough. I mean that

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00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: we're watching the video highlights right now, and again it's

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00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: on Monday Night football and it's against the team that

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00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: kicked our head in for two decades and the game

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00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: that he had, I mean it to me, it was

795
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: like the the Exorcism and the burden of two decades

796
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: worth of domination was all lifted. And that game, you know,

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00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: that game will go will go down for me anyway

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00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: as one of the great individual games in my lifetime

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Speaker 1: that it bills players out. I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: feel the same way. Yeah, it's the case. For me,

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00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: it's it's it was a pretty gigantic performance on a

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00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: national stage, you know, Monday Night football. I mean, I

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00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: still remember Brian Greasy who was in the booth and

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00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: he's he's there with Lewis Riddick and they're watching Josh

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00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: roll left and just drop that ball into Diggs in

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00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: the left corner of the end zone where Diggs makes

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00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 1: the sliding catch, and you can audibly hear Brian Greasy

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00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 1: go oh oh, like just he because he knows how

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00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: hard it is to roll to your left as a

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00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: right ended thrower and square up your hips and deliver

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Speaker 1: a ball that precisely. And I realize I'm moving away

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Speaker 1: from the whole point of this, which is about Digs.

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00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: The only games that come to mind in terms of

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Speaker 1: that kind of production is a Lee Evans performance against

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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans in Houston, two eighty three yard touchdowns,

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00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: both in the first quarter. It didn't do a whole

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00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 1: lot after that, but my god, he didn't really need to.

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00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: And then the only other wide receiver performance that comes

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00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 1: to mind is Andre read in the Comeback game. Three

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00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 1: touchdowns from Frank Reich. Those are the only ones. That's

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Speaker 1: a long period of time. You're going back to ninety

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Speaker 1: three now so or ninety two. So, yeah, it's been

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00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: a minute. But I've told Steve because I remember when

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00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,959
Speaker 1: the season was over, to try to make ourselves feel better,

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00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: we did a show like what is your number one

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Speaker 1: game from the twenty twenty season, and a lot of

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Speaker 1: people said the Baltimore game, you know, Tarren Johnson's one

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00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: hundred one yard interception return, which will probably go down

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Speaker 1: as one of the top five plays in Bill's history.

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Speaker 1: For me, it is not even close for some of

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Speaker 1: the reasons that you already stated. It is the Week

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Speaker 1: sixteen New England game, just putting an absolute beat down

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Speaker 1: on that team. Watching Bill Belichick hurl a receiver of

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Speaker 1: a telephone at the Microsoft Surface Bank, I mean, this

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Speaker 1: is pure elation. For me, I don't know if I

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00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:41,280
Speaker 1: have ever been more personally satisfied as a person covering

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Speaker 1: this team than I was in that very moment. I mean,

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00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,919
Speaker 1: that was even better than the actual game, to see

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Speaker 1: him in such a in such a state that he's

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00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,959
Speaker 1: doing that. And then I don't know if you remember this, Kevin,

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00:49:56,000 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: at the very end of the game, the long handshake,

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00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:05,919
Speaker 1: arm around the shoulder and brief conversation that Belichick who

843
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: is king of the cold fish handshakes after games, that

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00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: he gave to Sean McDermott. It was almost as if

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Speaker 1: he was saying, all right, you're in my league. Now.

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Speaker 1: It's as close to an audience with the Pope as

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00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 1: you're gonna get. I mean, it was your right, it

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00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: was congratulations. You guys just kicked our you know what.

849
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:34,720
Speaker 1: And by the way, lest anyone think that we Bill's

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00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 1: fans are deferring to the Patriots, this is as much

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Speaker 1: of an acknowledgement of how unbelievably good they've been for

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00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: two decades. But there is Listen, when you are the

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Speaker 1: one that's on the receiving end of two decades worth

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00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 1: of beatdowns, to be able to know that there's a

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Speaker 1: moment where you've not only arrived, but surpassed. Where this

856
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: I mean, Chris, it's it's the greatest dynasty in the

857
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: history of the NFL. I don't think whether you like

858
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 1: the Patriots or hate the Patriots, and you could put

859
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: me in the ladder camp, there's no denying what they've done.

860
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 1: So to get there in that manner, in that level

861
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: of game on the night football, in a season where

862
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: the Bills really arrived, it, Boy, it's a special. I'm like,

863
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 1: I'm kind of getting I'm kind of getting goosebumps thinking about,

864
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 1: like that was the validation that this fan base, franchise

865
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 1: organization has been waiting for for an awfully long time.

866
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: It was an exorcism, that's exactly. I mean, it was

867
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 1: an exorcism. All the demons were exercised in that game.

868
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 1: So yeah, and we can discuss this later in the

869
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 1: show when we get an opportunity. But it's gonna be

870
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 1: a little tougher this year, even with their rookie quarterback.

871
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: I think they are going to be a much tougher

872
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 1: out this year. I'm not saying they're going to be

873
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: right there with the Bills when it comes to the

874
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,240
Speaker 1: division race. But they're gonna be nipping at their heels.

875
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: I think, as much as I hate to say it,

876
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: as much as it pains me to say it, I

877
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: think it could very well happen. We can discuss that

878
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 1: when we get back. We do have to take a

879
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: break here, but when we return, we're gonna open up

880
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: the obl Fan Friday mailbag. See what questions you have

881
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 1: for myself and Kevin. That's coming your way next, Drew

882
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,439
Speaker 1: Sers of the Wing King at the bottom of the hour.

883
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: Stay tuned for that as Wingfest we'll be getting going

884
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: at him Mark Stadium this weekend. Plenty more to come

885
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 1: here on One Bill's Live, presented by Colloid to Health.

886
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio at a Steve Tasker who has

887
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 1: been all over a field kind of unique. He was

888
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: kind of a dual role player for Steve a blimp.

889
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 1: We're not even in the strated here of normalcy, all right,

890
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,919
Speaker 1: our number two here on a Friday, and we're kicking

891
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 1: it with ESPN Sports anchor Kevin Connor's resident Bills fan

892
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: up there in Bristol, enemy territory of fall Places. God,

893
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: that's a rough place to be a Bills fan man.

894
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: Although I have to imagine it's a little easier living

895
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: now and we'll see where it goes this year. And

896
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 1: I do want to get your thoughts on the AFC

897
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: East as a division, because it has taken a much

898
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: taken on a much different complexion than it looked like

899
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 1: last year, especially with the influx of the two rookie quarterbacks.

900
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 1: But we'll get to that in due course. Here we

901
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 1: do want to open the obil Fan Friday mail bag

902
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: and we begin Kevin with Jack, who asks, can you

903
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: please explain the practice squad for deck and call up rules?

904
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: I know each week they can protect so many guys

905
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: on the practice squad from being poached. Last year they

906
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 1: got free call ups each week, but is there a

907
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: limit on how often they could call up a guy?

908
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 1: How does it affect the game day roster? This is

909
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 1: how deep into the Weeds Bills fans get, Kevin. I mean,

910
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: it is extreme. I will say this basically, it works

911
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: this way. We know that we have the expanded practice

912
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 1: squad rules sixteen players six can have unlimited NFL experience

913
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 1: on the practice squad, which is the new addition they

914
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: brought in with the advance of the pandemic last year

915
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 1: that is again the case this year. They have the

916
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: freedom to call up two players to their active roster

917
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: as late as Saturday on four PM for a normal

918
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:51,720
Speaker 1: injury issue. If there is a COVID issue that strikes

919
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: the team, they can call up to two players to

920
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: replace players that have to go on the COVID reserve

921
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 1: list as late as ninety minutes before kickoff, but that

922
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: is only to be a COVID player replacement. Now, players

923
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: from the practice squad can get called up twice in

924
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:14,240
Speaker 1: a season and then be immediately reassigned to the practice

925
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 1: squad without having to go through waivers, which would obviously

926
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: expose them to thirty one other NFL teams. If they

927
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: go up a third time or a fourth time, to

928
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: get them back to your practice squad, they do have

929
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: to go through a waiver period at that time, and

930
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 1: then beyond that. Yes, you can protect up to four

931
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: players each week on your practice squad, and those players

932
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 1: cannot be signed away from your practice squad to another

933
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: team's active roster. I think what people forget, Kevin is

934
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: people on practice squads are essentially NFL free agents. Did

935
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:58,240
Speaker 1: you ever see the Saturday Night Live where Chris Farley

936
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: is on the game show and it's all like a

937
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: different language. And they cut to him and he says,

938
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: I said, I wanted to go to a game show

939
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: like That's how I feel right now. You've taken this

940
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 1: portion of the explanation, Chris, because because uh, I like

941
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: to get in the weeds. Man. But we have dune down.

942
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 1: We are hitting mantel here at this point. That's how

943
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: deep we are. This is where Bills fans drill down

944
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: real deep. So you know, sitting in my chair, you

945
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: better know this stuff. Um. Yeah, Fortunately for you, you

946
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: just got to worry about scores stats, uh, film review

947
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: and then pregame that you you get, you get the

948
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: fun stuff. Man, we have to get into the nuts

949
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: and bolts and everything else. Um. But yeah, that's kind

950
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 1: of where it stands. And I think the expanded practice

951
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: squad has been a boon um in terms of retaining

952
00:56:55,239 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: and holding on to a lot more developmental talent than

953
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: teams used to be able to in the past. Under

954
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: the new CBA that came in last year, and again,

955
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:05,919
Speaker 1: I know I'm getting in the weeds, but I'll finish

956
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: in about twenty seconds. The new CBA expanded the practice

957
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 1: squad to twelve, which it went up to, which it

958
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: would have been this year even without the expanded practice

959
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: squad rules, it would have been twelve. Next year it

960
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: goes up to fourteen under the CBA. So if this

961
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: expanded practice squad goes away, because God help us, I

962
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: hope we're out of the throws of this pandemic, it'll

963
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: still be fourteen even next year, and it'll be interesting

964
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: to see what rules are adopted on a full time

965
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: basis going forward after experiencing these expanded rules, which I

966
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: know the coaches absolutely love, and I know the personnel

967
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: boss is really like because for a team, as we've said,

968
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: like the Bills, who are really good at developing young

969
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: talent on their roster, this is an opportunity to work

970
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: with essentially a half dozen more players that they normally

971
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: wouldn't have around every week? Am I right in saying?

972
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: Was Justin Zimmer a practice squad guy? He was last year? Yeah?

973
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: He was one of the cuts off? So two was

974
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: Jane Jackson. Dane Jackson was on the practice squad at

975
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: the start of last season, And so then so what

976
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 1: that to your point you're making, it allows us to

977
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: retain Rashod Wild Goose from right, who was a draft

978
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: pick and isn't the the old alignment from Miami of Ohio.

979
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: Isn't he on the practice No, Jack Doyle made the roster.

980
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: You're thinking of Jack Anderson, the seventh round pick from

981
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,919
Speaker 1: Texas Tech, the guard. Yeah he is on the practice squad. Yes,

982
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: so yeah, chance, And those are two guys that may

983
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 1: or may have not been on an expanded practice squad.

984
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 1: We don't know. So yeah, it does give them an

985
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: opportunity to develop those guys. And I mean, you know

986
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 1: the injury rate in the NFL, it's one hundred percent,

987
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: so you know those you get some rash of injuries,

988
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: guys go down, You're in week eight or nine. Hey,

989
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: this kid's ready. Let's bring him up, and you know,

990
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 1: you promote him to the active roster and hopefully you

991
00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: don't miss a beat. Veto from the mail bag says,

992
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: what percentage of run plays do we see to start

993
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: the season. I feel the run game will pick up

994
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: as the season goes on, and they will actually use

995
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: the pass a lot to set up the run. Kevin,

996
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 1: I am under no delusions here. This is going to

997
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: be a team that chucks it all over the yard.

998
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 1: Probably forty to forty five times a game, maybe even

999
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: more so if you're in that fantasy league. You're not

1000
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 1: drafting Devin Singletary or Zach Moss very high unless you

1001
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: are in a conventional scoring league that rewards touchdowns, and

1002
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: maybe you're interested in Moss as a goal lineback. But

1003
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if any one of these guys are

1004
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:45,439
Speaker 1: going to carry it more than eight times a game, right,

1005
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 1: I think it will be we need to keep teams

1006
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 1: honest to a degree, but there will be a point in,

1007
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 1: you know, depending on who the opponent is. I'm not

1008
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: even sure if you'll need to keep teams honest. I think, Chris,

1009
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, that's today's NFL. But it's also the

1010
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 1: construction of this team, and it's it is the undeniable

1011
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: strength of this team. At some point you will need

1012
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 1: to be able to in some capacity run the football.

1013
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: But you're right, I mean, this is a team that's

1014
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 1: going to beat you by throwing the ball because we can.

1015
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 1: And the best runner on the team, as it turns out,

1016
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: may turn out to be the guy who's the best

1017
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 1: thrower on the team as well. Well, Yeah, he's an

1018
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: unquestioned red zone headache because of what he can do

1019
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: with his legs, you know, much like I mean, he's

1020
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 1: not don't run as fast as Lamar Jackson, but they

1021
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 1: present similar red zone threats because of what they can

1022
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 1: do with their legs, obviously, And you know, I know

1023
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 1: that the offseason mantra from the front office was we

1024
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 1: have to run it more effectively. Didn't say we have

1025
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: to run it more, said we have to run it

1026
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 1: more effectively. And I think there is a there is

1027
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 1: a stark difference in those words. And I mean, if

1028
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,919
Speaker 1: you look till last year, even when they were way

1029
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 1: up on teams, they didn't go into the conventional four

1030
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 1: minute offense, Let's kill the game and run the ball

1031
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 1: time after time after they were still throwing it. Now

1032
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 1: that might change this year if they feel they can

1033
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,439
Speaker 1: run it more effectively and shorten a game that they're

1034
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: up in. But I think on the whole, we're we're

1035
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 1: looking at the team that's going to be airing it

1036
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 1: out each and every week, as you said, because they can.

1037
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 1: And you know, and Chris, and I got to get

1038
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 1: this off my chest because I was watching the Lass

1039
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 1: preseason game and I wanted to send out an angry tweet,

1040
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 1: which I and want to do from time to time,

1041
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 1: but I refrained in this instance. But you know, part

1042
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 1: of the reason that they did throw the ball in

1043
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 1: those games was because of the confidence in the accuracy

1044
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 1: of the quarterback. And do you remember when coming into

1045
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 1: the NFL, and even once he was in the NFL,

1046
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 1: Josh Allen not accurate? Can't be accurate. If you weren't

1047
01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: accurate in college, you can't do it in the NFL.

1048
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 1: I love when I love more than anything when people

1049
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 1: in life are doubted and they prove those doubters wrong.

1050
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 1: And I love when it happens to a guy who

1051
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: I mean, Josh Allen played. He didn't play at a

1052
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 1: Power five school. He was doubted from the second he

1053
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: comes into the NFL, and he's proven everybody wrong. So

1054
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 1: that was a diatribe, but it speaks to the evolution

1055
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 1: of the player and the fact that you know what

1056
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 1: this guy is accurate. Otherwise they wouldn't be throwing in

1057
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 1: those situations where you're trying to run out the clock.

1058
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 1: So forgive me, You're totally fine, man. That's why we

1059
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 1: got John today. We need that passion. Elsewhere in the

1060
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 1: mail bag, here Ray asks with Marquez Stevenson going on

1061
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 1: IR who is the backup return man behind Isaiah mackenzie.

1062
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 1: And the good news is Isaiah McKenzie is trending toward

1063
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 1: being fully healthy four a week one and he is

1064
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 1: the primary return man on both kickoffs and punts. I

1065
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 1: will say for now the backup punt returner is probably

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Speaker 1: Micah Hyde, who is more of a ball security punt

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Speaker 1: returner than anything else. And then on kickoff, I'm just

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Speaker 1: thrown out a guess here, but I would go with

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Speaker 1: Matt Brida. He's one of the fastest guys on the roster,

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01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 1: and running backs can handle kickoffs historically and have better

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01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 1: than they can punt returns. They're always exceptions. I can

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01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: go all the way back to Eric Metcalf with the Browns.

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01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 1: He could return punts and he was a running back

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01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: as well, But more often than not, you see more

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01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 1: running backs on kick return than you do on punt return.

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Speaker 1: So those would be the two I would choose. I

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Speaker 1: don't know that definitively on Brita, but that would be

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Speaker 1: my guest because the only other person that was returning

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Speaker 1: punts and kicks is Brandon Powell, who is no longer

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01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 1: on the roster. So that is that. What did you

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01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 1: think of Mackenzie in the preseason on returns and Stevenson

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01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 1: for that matter, who certainly flashed in that area. I

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01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 1: mean both have shown the capacity to be home run hitters. Um.

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01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 1: You know, I love Mackenzie. I think he's Um, I

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01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 1: think he is. I'm speaking more more to his role

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01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 1: as a receiver. Uh, you know, he had he had

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01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: the game. Uh it was a week seventeen where he

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01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 1: had the ye it was a two three touchdown game,

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01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 1: three three touchdown game. Obviously was you know, was was

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01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 1: his breakout game in a game that you know, no

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01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: game is meaningless, but the Bills didn't necessarily need to

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01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 1: have that game, but it was proved what this guy

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01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 1: can do at this level. But you know, the ability

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01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 1: for a guy of his size to get into secondaries

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01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 1: and the home run hitting ability that he has, the

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01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: deep ball threat that he poses. I love it. It's

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01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 1: like to me, it's like a changeup in baseball. You know,

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01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: we got we got a lot of fastballs, and we

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01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 1: got a lot of curveballs. But to be able to

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01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 1: throw a guy out there who can be a matchup

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01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 1: nightmare like he is. I love what he brings to

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01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 1: the team. I'm really really happy that he's back in

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01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 1: the fold. Well yeah, I mean, and with Cole Beasley

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01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 1: and Stefan Diggs and Emmanuel Sanders not playing in each

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01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 1: of the two first two preseason games, I thought that

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01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 1: Mackenzie effectively stated his case in the Chicago game, where

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01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 1: he basically lined up in Cole beasley spot in the

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01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 1: slot and capably got early separation consistently and was a

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01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 1: reliable outlet for Mitchell Trubisky in that game. I mean,

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01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 1: you look at those first two drives. I think he

1111
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 1: had six catches for sixty seven yards, and that's exactly

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01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 1: what Beasley does. And I thought he made a very

1113
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 1: firm case that if for some reason, Beasley goes down

1114
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:48,919
Speaker 1: to be next man up in that slot role, I mean,

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01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 1: how about the depth of the receivers on this team.

1116
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 1: You know Diggs, Diggs is playing anywhere on any team.

1117
01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 1: He's number one anywhere, right, And Beasley is one of

1118
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 1: the elite slot receivers in the modern history of the NFL.

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01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 1: And then you're right, the factor in Gabriel Davis, who

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01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 1: was great as a rookie. I thought he had a

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01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 1: fantastic rookie year, Jake Coubro could be a guy. I mean,

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01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 1: Chris at some point this year, do you not think

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01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 1: he's going to catch passes in a meaningful way, in

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01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 1: a meaningful spot for this team? I do. I mean,

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01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 1: when you've got that number of weapons you can put

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01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 1: out there, and you can't even say Emmanuel Enters being

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01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 1: a part Amatuel Centers as well, right, the forgotten guy. Yeah,

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01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, what, what are we what are

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01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 1: we going at least sixteep here with this core of

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01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 1: that's pretty special? Yeah? And that and that's six with

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01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 1: Stevenson on i R right now. So there you go. Uh,

1132
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 1: Tiffany in the mail bag asks, with all due respect

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01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 1: to Andy Dalton, why do you think the Bears are

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01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 1: going with him over Fields? Fields appears to have a

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01:06:54,720 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: ton of upside. I I it's hard not to agree

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01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 1: with Tiffany's line of questioning here. And I've tried to

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01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:13,440
Speaker 1: psychoanalyze this one, Kevin, because Ryan Pace was the GM

1138
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 1: when they drafted Mitchell Trubisky. Now, Naggie was not there

1139
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 1: yet when he was drafted. But I think we can

1140
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 1: all agree that the Mitchell Trubisky journey in Chicago was

1141
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 1: a series of fits and starts that never really gained traction,

1142
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 1: and again an example of potential not being maximized for

1143
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 1: whatever reason you want to pick under the sun. But

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01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 1: I wonder now how that, for lack of a better

1145
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 1: term arrangement went, how much is that impacting what Naggie

1146
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 1: and Pace are deciding with fields now. Because they threw

1147
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 1: Mitchell Trubisky right on the field and the endgame didn't work,

1148
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 1: they didn't sign him to a second contract even though

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01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 1: despite a platoon situation and coming off a torn laborim

1150
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 1: in his throwing shoulder. You know, he starts nine games

1151
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 1: and he's two to one touchdown to interception ratio and

1152
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 1: completes I think sixty seven percent of his passes. I mean,

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01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 1: he wasn't chop liver last year and they didn't bring

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01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 1: him back. Now, granted they drafted justin field. Okay, you're

1155
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:31,679
Speaker 1: moving on, here's your new direction. But I wonder how

1156
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 1: the Trabisky situation is impacting their decision making now with fields?

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01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 1: What do you think? I took a look at the

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01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 1: Bear schedule just so that I could confirm the answer

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01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 1: in my own mind. Week one at Los Angeles Rams

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01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 1: week two home to the Bengals, Week three at Cleveland's. Okay,

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01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 1: so so here's what. Here's what. The meeting in in

1162
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 1: in the Bears offices were like, guys, we're gonna get

1163
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 1: that you know what kicked out of us by the

1164
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 1: Rams and the Browns, and we ain't putting our young

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01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,639
Speaker 1: guy out there to be the one having it kicked

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01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 1: out of them. Okay, you're gonna sit on the sideline

1167
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 1: and we're gonna let Andy do this thing, and we're

1168
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 1: gonna let We're gonna let this young kid learn and

1169
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 1: then we're gonna put him in a position to win

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01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 1: at home against Lions and maybe on the road against

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01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 1: the Raiders. It's just it's the reality of the NFL.

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01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 1: And there was a while, Chris, we're both you and

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01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 1: I are both old enough to remember where when teams

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01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 1: drafted quarterbacks high, they watched right, there was none of

1175
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 1: the There was a time where there was not any

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01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 1: of this get out of the field and win a

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01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 1: Super Bowl tomorrow. It was this is a process. Take

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01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 1: it in, adjust to how the game is played, get

1179
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:03,760
Speaker 1: some get some tape under your belt, watch how it's done,

1180
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 1: and then we'll put you out there and then all

1181
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 1: of a sudden it was like, no, everyone, get out there,

1182
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:10,720
Speaker 1: run away and win. I think with Fields, I think

1183
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 1: he showed them enough in the preseason. I think he's

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01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 1: he is clearly the future in Chicago. I think it's

1185
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 1: we can't put him in there in week one on

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01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 1: the road against the Rams and Aaron Donald, and then

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01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 1: on the road in week three against the Browns, who

1188
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 1: have a Pro Bowl unit on that roster. Whether it

1189
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 1: works or not remained to be seen, but they got

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01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 1: talent everywhere. I think it was let Andy take care

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01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 1: of the first three weeks of the year, and then

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01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:39,640
Speaker 1: we'll bring in the young guy. By so Andy sacrificial

1193
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 1: lamb Dalton is essentially the route they have chosen to

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01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 1: go there, which is what confounds Bears fans and probably

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01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 1: a lot of other NFL fans when they see something

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01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 1: like this take place, because in their eyes, they see

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01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 1: it as saying, well, you're already waving the white flag,

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01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 1: because in their estimation, they see Fields as the better

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01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 1: opportunity to win that football game, right, wrong or in

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01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 1: differ because of his ability to extend plays, well, if

1201
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 1: our protection sucks, why don't you have Fields in there?

1202
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 1: He can run around and extend plays and make something happen.

1203
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 1: Why are you going to put Dalton back there, who

1204
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 1: clearly doesn't have the same mobility. That's that's the refrain

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01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:16,679
Speaker 1: you often hear, or at least I've read from what

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01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 1: has been reported out of Chicago, so I get it.

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01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I kind of get the

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01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 1: logic that you're presenting here as you took us into

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01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 1: the inner workings of the Chicago Bears decision makers. That

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01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 1: was a good job there. Well, I'm I'm just said

1211
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 1: that we don't have a set like CBS does to

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01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:36,639
Speaker 1: like reenacted in soap operform, then it would have been

1213
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 1: really something. But we have to take a break here

1214
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 1: because when we come back, we're gonna be joined by

1215
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 1: the wing King, Drew Serza, who is set to unveil

1216
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 1: Wingfest at high Mark Stadium this weekend. They are working

1217
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,640
Speaker 1: over there as we speak, setting up the tents. I

1218
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 1: don't know if the food's here yet, that's probably tomorrow,

1219
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 1: but we'll get the lowdown on what's going on, including

1220
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 1: the chick and wing eating contest with some pretty big

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01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 1: names participating. We'll get to that when we return here.

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Speaker 1: On One Bills Live presented by Kalid to Health. It's

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01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio and welcome back to One Bills Live.

1224
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:26,719
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, along with ESPN Sports Center anchor Kevin Connor's

1225
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 1: filling in for Steve Tasker here on a Friday, and

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01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:33,600
Speaker 1: please to be joined now by the man who is

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01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 1: called the wing King. One Drew Serz is joining us

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01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 1: as the twenty twenty one National Buffalo Wing Festival. Wingfest

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01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 1: gets going this Labor Day weekend here at high Mark Stadium,

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01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 1: Drew it is. It's great to have you with us.

1231
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 1: I have to tell you I pulled into the parking

1232
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 1: lot this morning here one Bills Drive, and I was

1233
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:57,679
Speaker 1: not getting the cent or the waft of wing sauce

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01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 1: just yet. How soon does that happened? I need to

1235
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 1: know the oil? Okay, So we started the friars and

1236
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 1: we had two hour tests. We're ready to drop them

1237
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 1: as another test. But I'll tell you what. You know,

1238
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 1: how it smells like cheerios in downtown Base in general,

1239
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 1: Bills Orchard Park will smell like Chicka wings for the

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01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:21,639
Speaker 1: next week when we're done with this place. That's awesome.

1241
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:26,759
Speaker 1: Just so everybody knows. The hours twelve to nine pm

1242
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 1: on Saturday, September fourth, twelve to seven pm on Sunday,

1243
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 1: September fifth, and you can order tickets online at Buffalo

1244
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 1: Wing dot com. Right, Drew, Yeah, but you know at

1245
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 1: this point and you just buy him at the gate

1246
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 1: a lot easier. Okay, fair enough, Kevin, Do you have

1247
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 1: a favorite Wing, because if you do, like I'm talking

1248
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 1: flavor now, like are you a barbecue guy or you

1249
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 1: a medium guy, or you a hot guy or you

1250
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 1: a pineapple you know, outlandish flavor guy, because they got

1251
01:13:56,560 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 1: everything under the sun at this place. Preson of ways,

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01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 1: you had me in a wing, all right, but if

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01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 1: if I'm ordering barbecue is probably the one that I

1254
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:10,639
Speaker 1: go with. But Drew, I've got a question for you here,

1255
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 1: and let's let's skip all the pleasant trees right now.

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01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 1: I want to know what form of torture and or

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01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:20,919
Speaker 1: ridicule you endorse for someone who used this ranch dressing

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01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 1: over blue cheese. So, first of all, ranch dressing. Growing up,

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01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:30,839
Speaker 1: you know where they had ranch dressing at the Pizza

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01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:34,680
Speaker 1: Hut salad bar that costs two ninety nine and that's

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01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 1: where it should have stayed. Okay, so you know in Buffalo,

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01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:41,759
Speaker 1: I actually I'm a non dipper. I believe a chicken

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01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 1: wing that's done well should be respected. It's almost like

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01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 1: I'm not the guy that puts a one steak sauce

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01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 1: on a steak, you know. So I'm a non dipper,

1266
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:53,720
Speaker 1: but I do dip my celery of carrots in the

1267
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 1: blue cheese. So how would we ridicule some of you

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01:14:56,840 --> 01:15:00,679
Speaker 1: who is ranch dressing first of all their band from Buffalo,

1269
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 1: New York and even the state of New York, right,

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01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 1: and I would say, we do a dunk tank and

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01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 1: we just we don't even throw the ball. You go

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01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 1: up and you hand touch it a hundred times in

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01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 1: the world right in the dunk tank upside down. See,

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Speaker 1: this is why this guy organizes events like this, because

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01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 1: these are the ideas that come spouting out of his brain.

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01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:24,720
Speaker 1: Drew Sas and the Wing King joining us here on

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01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 1: the show. So, Drew, can you give us a sense

1278
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 1: because I know a lot of people, you know, they

1279
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 1: have their go to wing you know, for Kevin, it's barbecue.

1280
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 1: For me, I like it on the hotter side. I mean,

1281
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 1: I don't need my eyelids sweating, but I like a

1282
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:42,640
Speaker 1: little heat. But this is an opportunity to really experiment

1283
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 1: and get on the outer spectrum of how people prepare wings. Right,

1284
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:51,759
Speaker 1: So maybe just give us an idea of how outlandish

1285
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 1: some of your vendors get with their wing creations. You know,

1286
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 1: it's funny, um. You know when chicken we started back

1287
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty four, the anchor bar here and they

1288
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 1: said spread across the country. It was a lot of

1289
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 1: Buffalonians that opened up chicken wing joints in different cities

1290
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 1: because he couldn't get good wings. But then whether they're

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01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:14,599
Speaker 1: in Atlantis, Charlotte, Phoenix, Arizona, Las Vegas, what they would do,

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01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 1: they would do traditional wings, but then take the flavors

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01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 1: of the region and incorporated into wing sauces. So it's

1294
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 1: great because we've got one place called Booty's here from Arizona.

1295
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 1: He's formerly from Rochester. He's incorporated a lot of Southwest things.

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01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 1: And you've got a lot of the Carolina barbecue type

1297
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 1: stuff from down south, a lot of barbecue from the Midwest.

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01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:41,720
Speaker 1: But I think the outlandish, most outlandish one I've ever

1299
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:44,680
Speaker 1: had this peanut butter and jelly whoa. And it was

1300
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 1: an Asian peanut sauce though and very light on a jam.

1301
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 1: It wasn't too bad, and I hate to admit that

1302
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 1: it wasn't bad, but it's a one or two and done.

1303
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 1: It's not a full order. There's a BlackBerry branding from

1304
01:16:56,800 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 1: Millies in Ohio that comes out here. It is unbelievab

1305
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 1: well because it's got the sweetest But Chris has got

1306
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:04,639
Speaker 1: your heat too. So it's a balance of the sweet

1307
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 1: and the heat. And I think that's really the most

1308
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 1: popular things that's happened in the last ten years is

1309
01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:13,560
Speaker 1: combining the heat with the sweet and taking on the

1310
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:19,559
Speaker 1: different regional flavors. Yeah. Uh and Drew, you know, Chris

1311
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 1: and I we were discussing the Ding Dong, the which

1312
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:24,800
Speaker 1: is dead moment for the Bills last year in some

1313
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 1: ways that win over New England in New England on

1314
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 1: Monday Night football, and I was I was reading in

1315
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 1: your bio two thousand and seven you you beat Bobby

1316
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 1: Flay in the chicken wing throwdown, and you know, for

1317
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 1: many of us who are not foodies but certainly aware

1318
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 1: of the level of uh fame Bobby Flay has, I'm

1319
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 1: curious to know what that moment was like for you,

1320
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 1: beating someone of his stature and and what the feeling

1321
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:58,719
Speaker 1: was like afterwards, you know, that's a that's a great question.

1322
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 1: It's um. I was just like, I'm just a Buffalo guy,

1323
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 1: you know. And I was always promoting Buffalo through the

1324
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 1: Wingfest and traveling the country, and Bobby and his show.

1325
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:11,440
Speaker 1: He would pick who he considered like the culinary specialist

1326
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 1: in a type of food in a region. And I

1327
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 1: was lucky enough to be selected by the Food Network.

1328
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 1: And they scam you. They'd say you're coming in to

1329
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 1: do some other thing, and all of a sudden, they're

1330
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 1: filming some b role for a show, excuse me, for

1331
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 1: a show, and Bobby Flay shows up and I'm like,

1332
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 1: what the hell is this? I never saw a throw down.

1333
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 1: It was only the second season. I got scared because

1334
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 1: I thought it was like Iron Sheep or something like

1335
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 1: whoa whoa, you know, and he shows up. It was

1336
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 1: a lot of fun filming the show where at the

1337
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 1: anchor bar, I was drinking beer, just loosening up while

1338
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 1: we doing it. And when I beat him, I didn't

1339
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 1: really know what that would mean. And all of a sudden,

1340
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 1: I get calls from Regis and Kelly the View, get

1341
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:53,599
Speaker 1: on the Today's Show. A bunch of time Food Network

1342
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 1: shows they just opened up the horizons for me. And

1343
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 1: that whole wink. He called me the wing king, so

1344
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 1: what he as the other wing? Can you take that

1345
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:03,760
Speaker 1: run with it? So Bobby Play really is the one

1346
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 1: that helped take my persona which led to the wing

1347
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 1: best persona going to the next level. And I think

1348
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:12,719
Speaker 1: now we're and I'm going to say the super Bowl

1349
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 1: of Chicken Wings. I don't say the Big Game. I'll

1350
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:18,679
Speaker 1: take the season desist where the super Bowl of Chicken Wings,

1351
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 1: and restaurants and citizens from all over the country come here,

1352
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 1: they pay homage, and they do the pilgrimage to come

1353
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 1: to Buffalo for this event. And to be on the

1354
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 1: churp right here in Buffalo while we are rising to

1355
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 1: the top is amazing because back in nineteen to ninety four,

1356
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 1: when the Bills were in all those playoff runs of

1357
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 1: Super Bowls, all you heard about was chicken wings, chicken wings,

1358
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:44,520
Speaker 1: chicken wings. And then Pizza Huck gets involved. If CBS

1359
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 1: is doing a game, what's the what's the shot they

1360
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 1: show of the city Chicken wings right cooking chicken wings? That,

1361
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 1: believed or not, is what made chicken wings explode his

1362
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 1: ninety ninety four because the Bills have the Super Bowl run.

1363
01:19:56,320 --> 01:20:00,679
Speaker 1: Yeah awesome. I have been to this event for Drew

1364
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 1: back when you had it at Salen's Field, and I

1365
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 1: remember watching a pretty entertaining taking wing eating contest. Joey

1366
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 1: the Jaws Chestnut was there. I believe the Black Widow

1367
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 1: was there, along with a couple of other well known

1368
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:19,280
Speaker 1: competitive eaters. And that is taking place again, and Joey

1369
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 1: Chestnut's going to be here, right Joey chest That was

1370
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:25,840
Speaker 1: a Joey Chestnuts sighting him last night in several of

1371
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 1: the local taverns. Joey likes to eat and he loves

1372
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 1: Buffalo nightlife. So Joey does his warm up, you know,

1373
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:36,519
Speaker 1: he gets out there and he meets the Buffalo people.

1374
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:38,760
Speaker 1: And Verbeck's funny. You know who texts to me a

1375
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:42,519
Speaker 1: picture last night was Joey Locata. Okay, joe Locado was

1376
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:44,519
Speaker 1: out and about and saw Joey Chestnuts. So I got

1377
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 1: a picture with joe Locatta and Joey Chestnut which came

1378
01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:51,439
Speaker 1: out of the blue. Um. Yeah, Joey's here. He loves

1379
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:53,759
Speaker 1: coming to Buffalo. How do you Everybody loves coming to Buffalo,

1380
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:56,120
Speaker 1: you know, I mean that's why you guys love Buffalo.

1381
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:59,439
Speaker 1: And you know, Joey is is a unique character. He

1382
01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 1: always went hot Tuckey contest, but he got beat last year.

1383
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:06,519
Speaker 1: He got beat by a school teacher from Boston by

1384
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 1: five chicken wings. So he wants to retain the crown

1385
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:12,639
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, that's the wow. Now is the school

1386
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:17,640
Speaker 1: teacher coming back to defend the title or he is?

1387
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 1: He's coming back. Jeffrey Osper his name is. And the

1388
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 1: guy is the most unassuming person. You think he'd be

1389
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 1: um an usher at um at church or something. He

1390
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:30,639
Speaker 1: comes in, He's very mild and just does his thing,

1391
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:34,000
Speaker 1: you know. And Joey, let me tell you, Joey's probably

1392
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:35,800
Speaker 1: gonna be a good boy on Saraday because he knows

1393
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 1: Sunday is going to be a big challenge. It's like

1394
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:41,480
Speaker 1: the Bills going against Kansas City and the AFC Championship.

1395
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 1: That's what it is like. See see you know what.

1396
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:48,679
Speaker 1: That's my question is that you look at at Joey

1397
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 1: Chestnut or this teacher from Boston and in stature there,

1398
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:54,560
Speaker 1: they're not the biggest guys on that stage. I was

1399
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:58,640
Speaker 1: kind of curious through as you consider the Bill's rosterer,

1400
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 1: who you think would be the best chicken wing eater

1401
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 1: on the Bill's roster right now? Is it? Are you thinking?

1402
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:09,360
Speaker 1: Is it Spencer Brown, Star Latulila? Are we going with

1403
01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 1: size or are we going with sneaky stomach athleticism here?

1404
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:19,600
Speaker 1: You know what, josh Yellen's a little sneaky to me.

1405
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:25,599
Speaker 1: You know, Um, Devin Singletary, the way he slices and dices,

1406
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:28,519
Speaker 1: I could see him going through a flat you know,

1407
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 1: with the separation going through the middle. Devin Singletary would

1408
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 1: scare me. But you know, our big guy who just

1409
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 1: is getting better now, and I don't want to encourage

1410
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 1: him to eat chicken wings. He's just getting himself back

1411
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 1: in shape, I mean, a big guy. It depends on

1412
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 1: the light to the contest. If it's a marathon, I'm

1413
01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 1: taking Singletary. Okay, okay, I'm taking Singletary because he doesn't

1414
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 1: talk about it. He doesn't talk about it. That is

1415
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 1: I think he's in the closets. That's a dark horse candidate.

1416
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 1: You just pull. That was good? I wow, I enjoy that.

1417
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 1: See now, if Lee Smith, if Lee Smith was still

1418
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 1: on the roster, I would have picked him in a second,

1419
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 1: because that's one of the few Bills players who was

1420
01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 1: still eating chicken wings during the season on the bench.

1421
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 1: I ate him on the bench, didn't well, Yeah, which

1422
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:16,479
Speaker 1: is why he looked more like an offensive tackle than

1423
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:18,760
Speaker 1: a tight end. But you know, he had to block,

1424
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 1: so it all worked. So, Drew, is there anything that

1425
01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 1: we have not covered here with respect to the wing Fest? Like,

1426
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:29,120
Speaker 1: is there anything you know wing Fest goers need to

1427
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 1: know as far as getting in and out of here,

1428
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:34,840
Speaker 1: any of the protocols that they have to be concerned about.

1429
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:37,720
Speaker 1: It's an outdoor venue, so I'm guessing it's it's it's

1430
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 1: free and easy because they're gonna be eating and drinking. Yeah,

1431
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 1: you know, it's a great question. So we're very cognizant

1432
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:46,760
Speaker 1: that people want to be safe. We want people to

1433
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 1: be safe. They see about him Mark Stadium. We're about

1434
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 1: double the footprint for the festival as we were at

1435
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:55,080
Speaker 1: Sale and Field. So when you first walk in, you

1436
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:57,679
Speaker 1: walk it. You buy your ticket outside Gate five, which

1437
01:23:57,760 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 1: is basically one side of the bill store and everitt roade.

1438
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 1: You enter in gate four, and when you enter in,

1439
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 1: you turn left, you buy your food tickets, and then

1440
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:08,599
Speaker 1: we have restaurant row on that big outer concrete concourse

1441
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 1: all the way around the left side of the stadium

1442
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 1: pass like where Gate seven is, and that's where you're

1443
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:17,719
Speaker 1: going to buy your wings. And when you get your wings,

1444
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 1: you can go in the Pepsi Club and eat them.

1445
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:21,439
Speaker 1: If you go in the Pepsi Club when you're not eating,

1446
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:23,240
Speaker 1: we asked that you wear a mask, or if you

1447
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 1: go in the restrooms, wear a mask. Other than that,

1448
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:27,599
Speaker 1: you don't have to the best part is you can

1449
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:29,640
Speaker 1: walk down to the field and you can be on

1450
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:32,599
Speaker 1: the turf and that's where we have a main stage

1451
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 1: with live music and crazy contests and sponsors with a

1452
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 1: lot of activities. The Bill's alumni, matter of fact, are

1453
01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 1: going to be down there with the boot a booth

1454
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 1: and some members of the Bills MAPI, a lot of

1455
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 1: the characters of the fans that dress up crazy at

1456
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:50,160
Speaker 1: Bills games, the Elvis Elvis will be there. They'll be

1457
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:52,400
Speaker 1: there in a tent. So you can be on the field.

1458
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:54,519
Speaker 1: We all be strow tables. You can eat down there,

1459
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 1: you can buy a beer, you can go back up top,

1460
01:24:57,240 --> 01:24:59,439
Speaker 1: you can kind of roam around. We have twenty thousand

1461
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:02,599
Speaker 1: seats open, so it and the tents are all spread

1462
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 1: out really wide. So the safety factor is fantastic all

1463
01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:10,800
Speaker 1: you know, all spaced outs and it'll be fun and

1464
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 1: there's not many opportunities you get to be on the field.

1465
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:14,680
Speaker 1: When I walked down the field when we were, you know,

1466
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:18,559
Speaker 1: first looking at doing the festival, it was surreal. I mean,

1467
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 1: now I know when land when Neil Armstrong landed on

1468
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 1: the moon, oh wow, he saw it every night. But

1469
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 1: when you step your feet on it, my lord, I

1470
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:28,200
Speaker 1: mean it's like, am I really here? And you look

1471
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:31,479
Speaker 1: up like wow, it's amazing. It's like landing on the moon.

1472
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 1: All right, Well, listen, Drew. We know you'll put on

1473
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:36,599
Speaker 1: an all star event, as you always do every year.

1474
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 1: We certainly look forward to it. Noon to nine on Saturday,

1475
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 1: noon to seven on Sunday. Get your tickets at the

1476
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 1: door if you don't have them all ready, and get

1477
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 1: ready to have your eating face on. Maybe maybe go

1478
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 1: on a fasting tonight so you're ready for tomorrow or

1479
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:56,800
Speaker 1: ready for Sunday, depending on which day you attend. Drew,

1480
01:25:56,880 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 1: thanks for giving us the info and good luck this weekend.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it's gonna be a great event. Thanks for

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01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:05,600
Speaker 1: having me, guys. It's a pleasure. And just for you

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01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 1: guys there, it is the wing King with love it

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01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 1: all right. That's Drew Serves of the Wing King National

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01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:16,639
Speaker 1: Buffalo Wing Festival this weekend here at high Mark Stadium.

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01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:19,439
Speaker 1: Kevin and I will be back in just a second

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Speaker 1: here on One Bills Live, presented by collid to Health.

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01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back One Bills Live. Boy.

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Speaker 1: I don't about you, Kevin. I'm pretty fired up for

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01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:47,559
Speaker 1: a wing fest now. Um, that's gonna be an event

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01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 1: and a half. It's just I've been to it a

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01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:55,360
Speaker 1: couple of times. Some of the wing concoctions people come

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01:26:55,439 --> 01:27:00,320
Speaker 1: up with, it's amazing, Like I had a pineapple ango

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01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:04,400
Speaker 1: salsa wing one time when I went there, which you

1495
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:07,760
Speaker 1: know who thought that was possible And it wasn't bad.

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01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:12,000
Speaker 1: So it's really an opportunity for people who know wings

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01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:15,560
Speaker 1: backwards and forwards here in Buffalo to kind of experiment

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01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 1: a little bit, get out on the outer reaches of

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01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:21,040
Speaker 1: wing creations. That's that at least that's the selling point

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01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:24,680
Speaker 1: for me in going to that thing. So well, see

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01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 1: if you ever did we have a place here in

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01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 1: Connecticut that they called them, they called them dirty wings.

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01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:33,880
Speaker 1: Have you ever had a dirty wing? Which is which

1504
01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 1: is I guess what they do is they they deep

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01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:40,200
Speaker 1: fry them twice, so throw them in there for I am,

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01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:42,840
Speaker 1: and then maybe rebatter them again and then fry them again.

1507
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:46,640
Speaker 1: Really good. I mean, you know, okay, saying it is

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01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:49,720
Speaker 1: on par with Buffalo, not Western York material, but for

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01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 1: central Connecticut not bad, all right, I have not Now

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01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 1: I'm not going to pretend to be on the cutting

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01:27:57,280 --> 01:28:01,800
Speaker 1: edge of wingh knowledge, but that is a new one

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01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:03,840
Speaker 1: for me. So I'm sure there's people in Buffalo have

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01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:06,600
Speaker 1: heard of the dirty wing, but no, I I've not

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01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 1: tried one, nor I have heard of one. So I'm

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01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 1: going to have to investigate that. I do have family

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01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 1: in West Hartford, so maybe the next time I'm out

1517
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 1: that way, I'll have to ask you to let me

1518
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 1: know where that establishment resides and give that a shot. Sure,

1519
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:21,920
Speaker 1: there is one thing I wanted to run past you

1520
01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:26,560
Speaker 1: that appeared. I believe this was on the Bucks team website.

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01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:30,479
Speaker 1: Tom Brady was in like a three player interview and

1522
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 1: he was asked about some of the player's safety rules

1523
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:38,839
Speaker 1: that have come into the NFL, many of which protect

1524
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:40,960
Speaker 1: quarterbacks as you well know. I mean, you can't lay

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01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:43,000
Speaker 1: a finger on them below the knees, you can't hit

1526
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 1: them above the shoulder pads, among other things, including when

1527
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:50,400
Speaker 1: they declare themselves when they slide and give themselves up.

1528
01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:56,000
Speaker 1: So here is Tom Brady's comment about the player's safety rules,

1529
01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 1: which he actually takes issue with to some degree. Here.

1530
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:00,439
Speaker 1: So I want you to listen to and then let

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01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:02,800
Speaker 1: me know what you think it's not being taught the

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01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:05,360
Speaker 1: right way. Like a quarterback should only throw the ball

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01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 1: to certain places because your receiver is in danger of

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01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:10,120
Speaker 1: getting hit. For example, when I used to play against

1535
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:12,760
Speaker 1: ray Lewis, I wouldn't throw the ball to the middle

1536
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:16,600
Speaker 1: of the field because he would he'd go after you

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01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:18,680
Speaker 1: and he would hit like and we didn't always have

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01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 1: the biggest receivers, but he would hit him and knock

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01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:24,280
Speaker 1: him out of the game. And now every hard hit

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01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:25,960
Speaker 1: is a penalty on the defense. So I feel like

1541
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:30,639
Speaker 1: they penalize defensive players for offensive mistakes. So like if

1542
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 1: a quarterback I was watching the Chicago Bear game, the

1543
01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:38,800
Speaker 1: quarterback messes up, doesn't see the blitzer or the line

1544
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:40,560
Speaker 1: screws up. I don't know what happened the quarterback or

1545
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:42,720
Speaker 1: the line. On offense, the defensive player comes in and

1546
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:45,719
Speaker 1: hits him hard and they throw a flag on the defense.

1547
01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 1: So they've almost moved the protection of your opponent to

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01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:53,760
Speaker 1: you as opposed to where it should be, which is

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01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:55,800
Speaker 1: on yourself. Like if you're a quarterback, you got to

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01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:59,320
Speaker 1: protect yourself and your players. It shouldn't be the responsibility

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01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:02,120
Speaker 1: of your opponent to protect you. And I think that's

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01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:05,639
Speaker 1: a real It creates really bad habits for players because

1553
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:08,240
Speaker 1: you feel like I can basically do anything. I could

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01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:11,639
Speaker 1: run and not slide. I can throw my receiver into

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01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:14,680
Speaker 1: any coverage and not have any repercussion for it. The

1556
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:16,439
Speaker 1: only they're gonna do is they're actually gonna blame the

1557
01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:19,720
Speaker 1: defensive player for making a good, solid hit, And now

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01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:21,600
Speaker 1: the defensive players gonna fe like, oh, I can't do that,

1559
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:24,000
Speaker 1: even I feel like it was an offensive mistake. So

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01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:26,439
Speaker 1: in the end, I think it's a really disservice to

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01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:29,479
Speaker 1: the sport because the sport isn't being played at a

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01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:32,760
Speaker 1: high level like I believe that it once was. It's

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01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:36,759
Speaker 1: actually deteriorates because you're not teaching the players the reasons

1564
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:40,960
Speaker 1: and the fundamentals of what the sport should be. Now, Kevin,

1565
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:45,519
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I for many reasons still detest

1566
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:49,640
Speaker 1: that man, but he is bang on with this in

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01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:51,880
Speaker 1: my opinion. I don't know where you come down on it,

1568
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:55,120
Speaker 1: but I think in many ways he is one hundred

1569
01:30:55,240 --> 01:31:00,439
Speaker 1: percent correct. I'm listening to that bite, and I'm saying myself,

1570
01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:06,519
Speaker 1: can you imagine what the open market, free agency bidding

1571
01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:09,719
Speaker 1: war among TV networks to be to get Tom Brady?

1572
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:14,280
Speaker 1: And I mean he'd blow Romo's money out of the water,

1573
01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:17,960
Speaker 1: right that. That's like that, that's like tip money what

1574
01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:20,680
Speaker 1: Romo makes compared to what Brady could get. It was.

1575
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:23,240
Speaker 1: It was a very I don't know that I've heard

1576
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:29,680
Speaker 1: Tom Brady be that candidate and that um verbose on

1577
01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:34,600
Speaker 1: much of anything. He's usually so reserved. I thought he

1578
01:31:34,720 --> 01:31:37,280
Speaker 1: was really I thought he was really eloquent and what

1579
01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:39,840
Speaker 1: he had to say right there, he's right. Look, you

1580
01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:43,400
Speaker 1: know officiating in football. I was on the college football

1581
01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:46,439
Speaker 1: set last night with with Sam Macho played in the NFL,

1582
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:49,639
Speaker 1: played college football Texas and we're watching and we're watching

1583
01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:51,599
Speaker 1: one of the games and there was a personal foul

1584
01:31:51,640 --> 01:31:53,880
Speaker 1: penalty called in the defense, and I mean, it's it's

1585
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:57,320
Speaker 1: bang bang, It's like this is okay, this isn't okay.

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01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:02,920
Speaker 1: It's so tough to officiate. I feel like in general,

1587
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:05,920
Speaker 1: there should there should be more of a respect among

1588
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:09,879
Speaker 1: players for their peers when it comes to safety. Sometimes

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01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:12,560
Speaker 1: that's lacking in the NFL. I think Brady's on the

1590
01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:14,160
Speaker 1: money right there. I think I don't know that the

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01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:18,040
Speaker 1: game is taught the right way anymore, but it's awfully

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01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:21,680
Speaker 1: revealing to hear a quarterback speak up in defense of

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01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 1: the guys who are trying to take the quarterback's head

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01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:26,760
Speaker 1: off half at the time. Yeah, And I think it's

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01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:30,080
Speaker 1: I think he speaks from a position of authority because

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01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:33,439
Speaker 1: he's played long enough to have spent half his career

1597
01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:37,479
Speaker 1: in an era where those protections were not instituted yet,

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01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:40,080
Speaker 1: and now he has seen the results of them in

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01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:42,320
Speaker 1: the second half of his career. So I think his

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01:32:42,439 --> 01:32:46,200
Speaker 1: opinion is very well formulated. And I'm not saying that

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01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:50,679
Speaker 1: I'm not saying his opinion is absolute, one hundred percent

1602
01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:53,200
Speaker 1: correct in every facet. I understand what the league is

1603
01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:56,599
Speaker 1: trying to do with their safety measures, the things they've

1604
01:32:56,680 --> 01:33:00,479
Speaker 1: changed on special teams and stuff, But in the grand

1605
01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:02,960
Speaker 1: scheme of things, I think he is right in saying

1606
01:33:03,680 --> 01:33:09,439
Speaker 1: that the onus of offensive players learning how to protect

1607
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:13,200
Speaker 1: their own and how to protect themselves. Chiefly, the quarterback

1608
01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:17,400
Speaker 1: should not fall completely on the defensive player and be

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01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:20,519
Speaker 1: his responsibility. And the thing I like the most is

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01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:24,799
Speaker 1: this guy's already watching Bill's tape of the Bill's defense

1611
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:28,479
Speaker 1: against Chicago in the second preseason game, because the play

1612
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:32,360
Speaker 1: he's referring to is Andre Smith knocking Justin Field's head

1613
01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:37,280
Speaker 1: clean off when the protection was absolutely wrong on the play.

1614
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:40,720
Speaker 1: So he's even watch you know, they don't play him

1615
01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:43,719
Speaker 1: till week twelve or fourteen or something. He's already watching

1616
01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:49,920
Speaker 1: Bill's defensive tape that day. But then again, listen, no

1617
01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:51,960
Speaker 1: one accused Tom Brady of being a dumby, right, he

1618
01:33:52,040 --> 01:33:54,679
Speaker 1: knows it's up watch as much goals material as you kid.

1619
01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:57,599
Speaker 1: That's right. We have to take a break here. We're

1620
01:33:57,640 --> 01:33:59,479
Speaker 1: gonna go around the league a little bit. Here an

1621
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:03,480
Speaker 1: hour number three as we talked to NFL Networks Daniel Jeremiah,

1622
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:06,960
Speaker 1: who'll be picking his brain on the powers in the AFC. Next,

1623
01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:08,800
Speaker 1: you're on one of Bill's Live Be's gonna buy Colloid

1624
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:28,040
Speaker 1: to health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio at a Steve Tasker

1625
01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:30,840
Speaker 1: who has been all all the fields. Kind of unique.

1626
01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:33,080
Speaker 1: He was kind of a dual role player for you, Steve,

1627
01:34:34,439 --> 01:34:40,479
Speaker 1: Steve a blimp. We're not even in the stratosphere of normalcy.

1628
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:47,240
Speaker 1: There we go our number three on a Friday, Chris

1629
01:34:47,320 --> 01:34:51,000
Speaker 1: Brown and ESPN Sports Center anchor Kevin Connors build it

1630
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:53,920
Speaker 1: for Steve Tasker and uh, we're gonna make it a

1631
01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:57,760
Speaker 1: trio here as we bring in a man who wears

1632
01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:00,840
Speaker 1: many hats. NFL network analysts to the Move the Sticks

1633
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:03,680
Speaker 1: podcast with our good friend Bucky Brooks. Can follow him

1634
01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:06,479
Speaker 1: on Twitter and Move the Sticks also does some stuff

1635
01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:09,680
Speaker 1: on the Chargers or radio network during the season. I mean,

1636
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:11,680
Speaker 1: I don't know where he has a spare moment, but

1637
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:14,719
Speaker 1: he found something for us. It's Daniel Jeremiah joining us. Daniel,

1638
01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:17,120
Speaker 1: thanks for giving us the time as always. How are

1639
01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:20,040
Speaker 1: you doing you ready? We're nine days away from week one.

1640
01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:23,240
Speaker 1: I guess fewer if you have a Thursday night game. No,

1641
01:35:23,479 --> 01:35:26,160
Speaker 1: I'm pumped the man. It's it's nice to finally get

1642
01:35:26,200 --> 01:35:28,880
Speaker 1: to the point Chris and Kevin where we're not talking

1643
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:31,600
Speaker 1: about I think this might happen. And these are the

1644
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:34,240
Speaker 1: top five this and the top five that and maybe

1645
01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:37,080
Speaker 1: and hopefully and wishing, and it's like, oh, actually, we

1646
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:39,360
Speaker 1: have games, we can actually just talk about the games.

1647
01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:44,560
Speaker 1: It makes life a lot simpler, Daniel. I'm I'm a

1648
01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:50,240
Speaker 1: huge fan of your work, specifically digging into the draft.

1649
01:35:50,479 --> 01:35:53,920
Speaker 1: And you know, it's this is unusual this week that

1650
01:35:54,040 --> 01:35:56,000
Speaker 1: we you know, you go from the preseason, there's no

1651
01:35:56,080 --> 01:35:58,680
Speaker 1: Week four normally. Now we have this week off. And

1652
01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:01,120
Speaker 1: I heard Brandon being talking about the opportunity that he's

1653
01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:04,000
Speaker 1: going to be able to get out to several games,

1654
01:36:04,160 --> 01:36:07,280
Speaker 1: not a couple of games, several games he was talking

1655
01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:10,960
Speaker 1: about here. I'm curious, as a general question, what are

1656
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:15,320
Speaker 1: evaluators looking at when they go to games Daniel, Versus

1657
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:18,240
Speaker 1: when they're looking at the tape of a guy. That's

1658
01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:21,240
Speaker 1: a great question, kevinet to me, the importance of going

1659
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:22,680
Speaker 1: to games, and I don't know if a lot of

1660
01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:24,760
Speaker 1: people even really know this is you're going there to

1661
01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:27,519
Speaker 1: get body types first and foremost, because when you're watching

1662
01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:29,880
Speaker 1: the tape, you're seen on the video. You don't get

1663
01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:32,439
Speaker 1: a sense for what a guy looks like in person.

1664
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:34,840
Speaker 1: When you can walk down the sideline and pregame stretch

1665
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:37,120
Speaker 1: and watch guys, you know body type. When you literally

1666
01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:39,320
Speaker 1: have to give a description in your notes from literally

1667
01:36:39,479 --> 01:36:42,200
Speaker 1: head to toe of the guys, and you can watch

1668
01:36:42,240 --> 01:36:44,360
Speaker 1: them move around, then you can watch them interact with

1669
01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:47,240
Speaker 1: their teammates. You're really trying to use this opportunity to

1670
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:49,160
Speaker 1: get all the information that you can't get just from

1671
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:52,519
Speaker 1: watching tape. And really, you know, the Buffalo doesn't have

1672
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:55,000
Speaker 1: to worry about this for a very long time. But quarterbacks,

1673
01:36:55,040 --> 01:36:56,439
Speaker 1: you want to go out there and see those guys

1674
01:36:56,520 --> 01:36:59,120
Speaker 1: throw live because you don't get a sense truly for

1675
01:36:59,200 --> 01:37:01,680
Speaker 1: how the ball comes off their hand unless you get

1676
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:03,400
Speaker 1: a chance to see them up close and personal. But

1677
01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:05,519
Speaker 1: there's a lot of when you look at the schedule,

1678
01:37:05,720 --> 01:37:07,840
Speaker 1: there's a lot of double dip opportunities. I was just

1679
01:37:07,880 --> 01:37:10,760
Speaker 1: talking to a GM buddy about this this week and

1680
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:13,000
Speaker 1: he was debating about poland off. Like out here on

1681
01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:15,640
Speaker 1: the West Coast, you have I think SC plays San

1682
01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:18,400
Speaker 1: Jose stayed at like two, and then you could watch

1683
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:20,439
Speaker 1: the first half of their zip over to the Rose

1684
01:37:20,520 --> 01:37:23,120
Speaker 1: Bowl and you can watch UCLA and LSU. I think

1685
01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:25,400
Speaker 1: it kicks at four thirty or five or something. So

1686
01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:28,280
Speaker 1: not having NFL games this weekend, this is kind of

1687
01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:30,519
Speaker 1: that one weekend where the decision makers can really get

1688
01:37:30,520 --> 01:37:34,840
Speaker 1: out and see some dudes Daniel, you mentioned Josh Allen,

1689
01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:37,800
Speaker 1: so I'll jump in head first on that. And you know,

1690
01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:40,040
Speaker 1: he goes out and works with Jordan Palmer as we

1691
01:37:40,160 --> 01:37:42,719
Speaker 1: know in the off season, as he's done for several

1692
01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:46,599
Speaker 1: off seasons now. And while his game took the giant

1693
01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:48,479
Speaker 1: leap that it did last year in a lot of

1694
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:53,080
Speaker 1: obvious ways, you know, completion percentage, paul location, you know,

1695
01:37:53,240 --> 01:37:56,720
Speaker 1: decision making, resetting protections at the line pre snap and

1696
01:37:56,800 --> 01:38:01,479
Speaker 1: then post snap recognition. I'm wondering if the improvements we

1697
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:05,360
Speaker 1: see this year are much more nuanced and maybe not

1698
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:08,920
Speaker 1: as evident to the casual fan. And if that is

1699
01:38:09,000 --> 01:38:14,800
Speaker 1: the case, Daniel, where do you think those will manifest themselves? Well,

1700
01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:17,280
Speaker 1: I think all of the physical stuff has been fixed.

1701
01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:19,160
Speaker 1: And when you go back and look at him at

1702
01:38:19,160 --> 01:38:21,160
Speaker 1: Wyoming and look at the changes that him and Jordan

1703
01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:24,479
Speaker 1: really worked on to kind of fix really from his base,

1704
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:28,080
Speaker 1: kind of fixing his platform that really helped his accuracy.

1705
01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:31,200
Speaker 1: So physically, I think he's in a great place where

1706
01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:34,200
Speaker 1: everything is lined up and working together. And now I

1707
01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:37,600
Speaker 1: think the crazy part that's scary for everybody else in

1708
01:38:37,640 --> 01:38:40,680
Speaker 1: the AFC is that now everything mentally is just going

1709
01:38:40,720 --> 01:38:43,559
Speaker 1: to happen faster and quicker as he just gains more experience.

1710
01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:45,400
Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden, you're seeing a look not

1711
01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:47,320
Speaker 1: for the first time, the second time, the fifth time.

1712
01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:49,760
Speaker 1: Now I've seen this over with my experience, I've seen

1713
01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:52,760
Speaker 1: this ten times. So man, now you're processing goes to

1714
01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:55,639
Speaker 1: a whole other level. And we saw that leap last year.

1715
01:38:56,120 --> 01:38:57,720
Speaker 1: I think that's just the tiboth the iceberg of what

1716
01:38:57,840 --> 01:38:59,599
Speaker 1: you could see from him going forward. So when you're

1717
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:02,240
Speaker 1: a mechanically right now, you don't have to be watching

1718
01:39:02,320 --> 01:39:04,560
Speaker 1: tape and worrying about things and looking, Okay, am I

1719
01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:07,400
Speaker 1: too narrow? Am I too wide with my bass? Forget that.

1720
01:39:07,560 --> 01:39:09,920
Speaker 1: I am just looking at the eleven defenders, what looked

1721
01:39:09,960 --> 01:39:11,880
Speaker 1: they're giving me, and how I can attack them. So

1722
01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:14,680
Speaker 1: that's what's it's really scary. That's why I'm so high

1723
01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:16,640
Speaker 1: on this team. Is as great as Josh was, I

1724
01:39:16,720 --> 01:39:22,800
Speaker 1: think there's more Daniel. It's it's refreshing to hear that perspective.

1725
01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:24,640
Speaker 1: And you know, Chris and I talked a little bit

1726
01:39:24,680 --> 01:39:28,679
Speaker 1: earlier in the show about the projection for Josh Allen

1727
01:39:28,760 --> 01:39:32,400
Speaker 1: coming into the league and what he's become and how

1728
01:39:32,640 --> 01:39:35,800
Speaker 1: inexact a science this is and I understand that you

1729
01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:38,800
Speaker 1: know the need for people to make projections. And I

1730
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:42,439
Speaker 1: shared with Chris I Trevor maddag is a guy who's

1731
01:39:42,600 --> 01:39:45,920
Speaker 1: whose opinion I respect as much as anyone. He knows

1732
01:39:46,080 --> 01:39:47,920
Speaker 1: the game inside and out. And I asked him after

1733
01:39:48,040 --> 01:39:49,400
Speaker 1: Day one of the draft what he thought at the

1734
01:39:49,400 --> 01:39:52,559
Speaker 1: Greg Russo pick, and he said, I'm not so sure.

1735
01:39:52,920 --> 01:39:54,680
Speaker 1: And I think in the preseason what we've seen is

1736
01:39:54,680 --> 01:39:58,840
Speaker 1: that Russo has made that that adjustment. What have you

1737
01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:01,240
Speaker 1: seen from from so? What do you what do you

1738
01:40:01,360 --> 01:40:05,680
Speaker 1: think is realistic to expect from him here in year one? Yeah,

1739
01:40:05,720 --> 01:40:09,200
Speaker 1: I think there's a real He was He was a player.

1740
01:40:09,240 --> 01:40:11,040
Speaker 1: When you talk to folks around the league, opinions where

1741
01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:13,720
Speaker 1: all over the map. And I started with him. I

1742
01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:16,040
Speaker 1: think he I think he'd still ended up being my

1743
01:40:16,120 --> 01:40:17,760
Speaker 1: top edge rusher or right around there. I think he's

1744
01:40:17,800 --> 01:40:21,639
Speaker 1: an eighteenth or player or somewhere around there. But with Rousseau,

1745
01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:23,920
Speaker 1: you had this combination of a guy with just rare

1746
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:27,400
Speaker 1: to length. He had a good get off, not like

1747
01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:30,880
Speaker 1: a big time, big time dynamic explosive player, but he's long,

1748
01:40:30,960 --> 01:40:32,720
Speaker 1: He understood how to use his arms, and he was

1749
01:40:32,760 --> 01:40:34,880
Speaker 1: a finisher, and so those are the positives that I

1750
01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:36,960
Speaker 1: saw when I watched him that I got excited about.

1751
01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:38,960
Speaker 1: And I'm like, Okay, this guy's so young. He's a

1752
01:40:39,040 --> 01:40:41,640
Speaker 1: former high school receiver in safety. He hasn't played the

1753
01:40:41,680 --> 01:40:44,200
Speaker 1: position that long. Like there's more in front of him.

1754
01:40:44,320 --> 01:40:47,320
Speaker 1: And I've always been someone who values the finish ability.

1755
01:40:47,400 --> 01:40:49,439
Speaker 1: So I don't care if you're playing in the ACC,

1756
01:40:49,800 --> 01:40:52,439
Speaker 1: the Sun Belt, your Division two, Division three, when you're

1757
01:40:52,439 --> 01:40:56,120
Speaker 1: putting up production like he did in the ACC, I

1758
01:40:56,320 --> 01:40:58,160
Speaker 1: valued that. Now when you talk to people who didn't

1759
01:40:58,160 --> 01:41:00,519
Speaker 1: like him around the league, they'd say, you know, they

1760
01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:03,160
Speaker 1: rush him over guards a lot. They kicked him inside.

1761
01:41:03,200 --> 01:41:05,200
Speaker 1: He beat up on some of these tomato can guards

1762
01:41:05,240 --> 01:41:06,960
Speaker 1: that they saw. And I'm like, yeah, you know what,

1763
01:41:07,040 --> 01:41:09,200
Speaker 1: there's left tomato can guards in the NFL too. You're

1764
01:41:09,200 --> 01:41:12,240
Speaker 1: allowed to let him rush inside there as well. I

1765
01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:13,680
Speaker 1: just thought the kid had a knack. I thought he

1766
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:17,040
Speaker 1: played hard. He needed to get physically stronger and just

1767
01:41:17,120 --> 01:41:18,720
Speaker 1: need to become a little more polished. And I think

1768
01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:20,719
Speaker 1: what you've seen in Buffalo, you saw it in the preseason.

1769
01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:23,960
Speaker 1: Now he's really starting to add some some hand moves

1770
01:41:23,960 --> 01:41:25,720
Speaker 1: to the mix and be able to use that length

1771
01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:28,160
Speaker 1: that he has. You're seeing the power as he just

1772
01:41:28,320 --> 01:41:30,559
Speaker 1: grows up, he grows into his man strength. You saw

1773
01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:33,320
Speaker 1: some of that power in the Detroit game. So I'm

1774
01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:36,120
Speaker 1: bullish on him. I thought he got unfairly kind of

1775
01:41:36,280 --> 01:41:38,639
Speaker 1: dinged through the process. He had had a bad pro day,

1776
01:41:38,680 --> 01:41:40,880
Speaker 1: and I think people kind of hung onto that too much.

1777
01:41:41,880 --> 01:41:43,639
Speaker 1: But I was big on him coming through the process.

1778
01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:46,559
Speaker 1: And I think Buffalo Man, I think they they lucked

1779
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:48,519
Speaker 1: out with him kind of falling right in their lap. Yeah.

1780
01:41:48,520 --> 01:41:52,400
Speaker 1: It was interesting, Daniel, because this week coach McDermott laid

1781
01:41:52,439 --> 01:41:56,400
Speaker 1: out for us. Somebody asked him about Boogie bash him

1782
01:41:56,479 --> 01:41:58,960
Speaker 1: and how he's coming along, you know, through this training

1783
01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:03,200
Speaker 1: camp in preseason process, and coach McDermott was very revealing

1784
01:42:03,280 --> 01:42:06,920
Speaker 1: because what he told us was they've basically taken Greg

1785
01:42:07,040 --> 01:42:11,600
Speaker 1: Rousseau and let him focus on one position, one responsibility,

1786
01:42:12,240 --> 01:42:14,240
Speaker 1: and you know, let's have you hit the ground running

1787
01:42:14,240 --> 01:42:17,080
Speaker 1: as fast as possible. With Basham, who, as you know,

1788
01:42:17,320 --> 01:42:20,400
Speaker 1: is the far more experience college player. They've got him

1789
01:42:20,439 --> 01:42:23,760
Speaker 1: handling two and three different defensive responsibilities. I think he

1790
01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:26,600
Speaker 1: might be backing people up in many ways across the

1791
01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:29,120
Speaker 1: board on that defensive front, and he's also playing on

1792
01:42:29,240 --> 01:42:32,960
Speaker 1: kickoff and on special teams, and so I think he's

1793
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:38,439
Speaker 1: still thinking and playing, whereas Rousseau is just going right now. So,

1794
01:42:39,040 --> 01:42:41,920
Speaker 1: knowing Basham to be the experienced player that he is,

1795
01:42:42,880 --> 01:42:47,559
Speaker 1: is it fair to maybe expect a little bit longer

1796
01:42:47,720 --> 01:42:51,200
Speaker 1: learning curve with as much has been has been put

1797
01:42:51,320 --> 01:42:54,720
Speaker 1: on his plate. Well, I think it brings up a

1798
01:42:54,760 --> 01:42:57,679
Speaker 1: great point because you'll talk to people around the league

1799
01:42:57,680 --> 01:42:59,640
Speaker 1: that will say, okay, young player, I don't want to

1800
01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:01,400
Speaker 1: over him. I want to put him in one spot,

1801
01:43:01,479 --> 01:43:04,639
Speaker 1: let him get comfortable, Noah's assignment as alignment and assignment,

1802
01:43:04,680 --> 01:43:07,400
Speaker 1: and let him go. But there are other guys, and

1803
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:09,479
Speaker 1: I think to me, the smart coaches are able to

1804
01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:11,640
Speaker 1: tell the difference some guys. You can put that on him,

1805
01:43:11,640 --> 01:43:13,840
Speaker 1: you know, doing the Charger games. Dear, when James came

1806
01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:16,600
Speaker 1: into the NFL and it was like, Okay, he can

1807
01:43:16,720 --> 01:43:19,200
Speaker 1: handle all this. You can use him in different places

1808
01:43:19,240 --> 01:43:21,800
Speaker 1: and different roles on a weekly basis, and he was fine.

1809
01:43:22,760 --> 01:43:25,120
Speaker 1: So I don't like him when you come into it

1810
01:43:25,160 --> 01:43:27,439
Speaker 1: and say that's one rule applies to everybody. I think

1811
01:43:27,439 --> 01:43:29,360
Speaker 1: you got to look at the situations individually. And I

1812
01:43:29,439 --> 01:43:32,479
Speaker 1: think boogie basham. Hey, he's got experience, you know, a

1813
01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:35,240
Speaker 1: lot of experience playing up front, he's got experienced playing

1814
01:43:35,320 --> 01:43:38,320
Speaker 1: in multiple spots like he did at Wake four. So

1815
01:43:38,800 --> 01:43:41,000
Speaker 1: to me, it's nothing, you know, totally new to him.

1816
01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:42,680
Speaker 1: You know, maybe covering kicks. I don't have to go

1817
01:43:42,720 --> 01:43:44,240
Speaker 1: back and look, I don't remember covering a lot of

1818
01:43:44,320 --> 01:43:49,000
Speaker 1: kicks off a few times Wake from what we understand. Yeah,

1819
01:43:49,200 --> 01:43:52,320
Speaker 1: So usually usually when you're at his level at a

1820
01:43:52,360 --> 01:43:54,400
Speaker 1: place like that, they say we're gonna we'll save you

1821
01:43:54,439 --> 01:43:58,240
Speaker 1: those reps. But uh no, I think that's smart. I think, hey,

1822
01:43:58,600 --> 01:44:00,600
Speaker 1: the players are going to tell you and show you

1823
01:44:01,000 --> 01:44:02,960
Speaker 1: what they're comfortable with. And at this point in time,

1824
01:44:03,000 --> 01:44:05,000
Speaker 1: Gregors soa who not only didn't play a lot of

1825
01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:06,840
Speaker 1: college football, I didn't really play the position much in

1826
01:44:06,880 --> 01:44:09,800
Speaker 1: high school. Let's let him get comfortable and let him

1827
01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:11,840
Speaker 1: see some success, and then you can kind of evolve

1828
01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:15,479
Speaker 1: his role after that. So I agree with what they're doing. Daniel,

1829
01:44:15,560 --> 01:44:19,640
Speaker 1: we're talking about some young defenders, and Tremaine Edmonds is

1830
01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:23,800
Speaker 1: the guy who, though he has a couple of years

1831
01:44:23,800 --> 01:44:26,240
Speaker 1: as of NFL experience under his belt, is still an

1832
01:44:26,360 --> 01:44:30,800
Speaker 1: awfully young football player. And I think that there is

1833
01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:34,519
Speaker 1: a faction of Bill's fans who say, you know what,

1834
01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:37,960
Speaker 1: didn't have a great year last year. And I watched

1835
01:44:38,040 --> 01:44:40,800
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmondson play playing, and I say, you know what,

1836
01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:45,240
Speaker 1: there are reasons to explain why maybe he wasn't the

1837
01:44:45,360 --> 01:44:49,280
Speaker 1: dominant linebacker that we hoped he might be. When you

1838
01:44:49,400 --> 01:44:52,680
Speaker 1: watch Tremade Edmond's tape, what do you see? Well, I

1839
01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:56,679
Speaker 1: think there's you know, with him, there's just a fact

1840
01:44:56,760 --> 01:44:59,799
Speaker 1: of if you think you're going to get this downhill

1841
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:03,280
Speaker 1: banger who's just gonna be just blowing things up, you know,

1842
01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:05,800
Speaker 1: like ray Lewis coming downhill, that's not who he is.

1843
01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:10,240
Speaker 1: That's not how he plays. He's long, he's rangy, he's outstanding.

1844
01:45:10,439 --> 01:45:12,439
Speaker 1: He has been, you know, throughout college, and then you

1845
01:45:12,520 --> 01:45:15,200
Speaker 1: see it in his young career in the passing game,

1846
01:45:15,280 --> 01:45:17,000
Speaker 1: being able to get in lanes, use his length. He

1847
01:45:17,040 --> 01:45:18,680
Speaker 1: can run and cover, you can blitz him and do

1848
01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:22,000
Speaker 1: different things. He's ultra athletic. He just is not a

1849
01:45:22,600 --> 01:45:26,360
Speaker 1: you know, overly physical attack dog type linebacker. That's not

1850
01:45:26,439 --> 01:45:27,880
Speaker 1: the way that he played in college. I don't think

1851
01:45:27,920 --> 01:45:29,760
Speaker 1: that's that's who he is. So I think some of

1852
01:45:29,840 --> 01:45:33,000
Speaker 1: it is just expectation of what you're looking for. I know, personally,

1853
01:45:33,040 --> 01:45:34,880
Speaker 1: if I'm building a team at this point in time

1854
01:45:34,920 --> 01:45:37,920
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, give me the long rangey, fast

1855
01:45:38,040 --> 01:45:40,360
Speaker 1: linebacker that can run and cover and help me in

1856
01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:42,720
Speaker 1: the passing game. And maybe there's gonna be times where

1857
01:45:42,760 --> 01:45:44,519
Speaker 1: he gets washed a little bit in the run game.

1858
01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:46,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I want guys that can play the past.

1859
01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:50,439
Speaker 1: So to me, I've value his skill set, maybe more

1860
01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:52,680
Speaker 1: so than so much super old school that says, man,

1861
01:45:52,760 --> 01:45:54,680
Speaker 1: this guy's not a you know, we used to say

1862
01:45:54,720 --> 01:45:57,200
Speaker 1: and scouting a glass eater. Right, He's not coming down

1863
01:45:57,280 --> 01:45:59,760
Speaker 1: and this is you know, body's flying all over the place.

1864
01:46:00,280 --> 01:46:04,120
Speaker 1: That's just not the way he plays. Talking to NFL Networks,

1865
01:46:04,240 --> 01:46:08,799
Speaker 1: NFL analyst Daniel Jeremiah and Daniel, we've got an AFC

1866
01:46:09,040 --> 01:46:13,439
Speaker 1: East that has been changed dramatically suddenly. Josh Allen is

1867
01:46:13,479 --> 01:46:17,000
Speaker 1: the oldest starting quarterback in the division at age twenty five,

1868
01:46:17,560 --> 01:46:22,320
Speaker 1: which is nuts. But even though the Patriots have pulled

1869
01:46:22,360 --> 01:46:24,360
Speaker 1: the trigger here and they're going to be going with

1870
01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:29,160
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback in mac Jones, it seems evident, as

1871
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:31,479
Speaker 1: much as Bill's fans hate to admit it, that the

1872
01:46:31,520 --> 01:46:33,479
Speaker 1: Patriots are going to be a much tougher out this

1873
01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:37,920
Speaker 1: year than they were last year. What reasons would you

1874
01:46:38,120 --> 01:46:41,640
Speaker 1: give for that being the case as we enter this

1875
01:46:41,720 --> 01:46:44,960
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one season. Well, I think you look on

1876
01:46:45,000 --> 01:46:46,960
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball. Obviously we're gonna miss

1877
01:46:46,960 --> 01:46:49,000
Speaker 1: Gilmore here for the first part of the season, but

1878
01:46:49,320 --> 01:46:52,000
Speaker 1: getting those guys back with Dante Hi Tower and company,

1879
01:46:52,360 --> 01:46:54,840
Speaker 1: and then some young players you're seeing like josh Ucha

1880
01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:56,960
Speaker 1: kind of take that next step. I think the defense

1881
01:46:57,120 --> 01:46:59,720
Speaker 1: is going to be much better. I think Mac kind

1882
01:46:59,720 --> 01:47:01,400
Speaker 1: of allows him to just go back to what they

1883
01:47:01,439 --> 01:47:04,920
Speaker 1: were comfortable with and calling offense, with the way they

1884
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:07,840
Speaker 1: can go empty and spread you out and pick you apart.

1885
01:47:07,960 --> 01:47:10,200
Speaker 1: That way, I'll be able to be physical with a

1886
01:47:10,280 --> 01:47:12,400
Speaker 1: good offensive line and run the ball. He's you know

1887
01:47:12,680 --> 01:47:14,840
Speaker 1: historically in college and now we'll see it's different, but

1888
01:47:14,920 --> 01:47:17,240
Speaker 1: he's been a good decision maker protected the football. So

1889
01:47:18,080 --> 01:47:19,519
Speaker 1: all those things kind of look like kind of a

1890
01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:22,840
Speaker 1: classic Patriots Patriots team. So I think that's why you

1891
01:47:22,960 --> 01:47:25,920
Speaker 1: see some increased optimism there. I was talking to some

1892
01:47:26,040 --> 01:47:27,280
Speaker 1: about this the other day, though, I thought it was

1893
01:47:27,320 --> 01:47:31,120
Speaker 1: fascinating if you added up the experience of the quarterbacks

1894
01:47:31,920 --> 01:47:35,960
Speaker 1: in this division, and then add up the defensive experience

1895
01:47:36,040 --> 01:47:39,080
Speaker 1: of the head coaches in this division. I can't imagine

1896
01:47:39,080 --> 01:47:40,920
Speaker 1: there's been a greater disparity in the history of the

1897
01:47:41,080 --> 01:47:43,760
Speaker 1: NFL than what that is in that division. You've got

1898
01:47:43,800 --> 01:47:46,479
Speaker 1: four defensive head coaches, you've been doing it forever at

1899
01:47:46,520 --> 01:47:49,559
Speaker 1: a very high level, and you've got all these young quarterbacks.

1900
01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:51,960
Speaker 1: You've got Josh's starts in a half a year or two.

1901
01:47:52,200 --> 01:47:57,800
Speaker 1: That's it. Man. About Zach Wilson Daniel, you know, I

1902
01:47:57,880 --> 01:48:02,720
Speaker 1: think that there were some people who who felt coming in,

1903
01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:05,200
Speaker 1: you know what by you don't know if he had

1904
01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:07,559
Speaker 1: quite the experience as some of the Power five guys.

1905
01:48:07,560 --> 01:48:10,080
Speaker 1: And then there were some people who were quite high

1906
01:48:10,160 --> 01:48:11,920
Speaker 1: on him, and I think the early returns had been

1907
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:13,920
Speaker 1: maybe the Jets finally got this one right. What are

1908
01:48:13,920 --> 01:48:17,320
Speaker 1: your thoughts? Yeah, he was my second quarterback behind Trevor,

1909
01:48:17,439 --> 01:48:19,479
Speaker 1: so I thought that was the right pick for them

1910
01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:22,240
Speaker 1: and kind of bring it all together. One of the

1911
01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:24,680
Speaker 1: things that made my evaluation of him, and really I

1912
01:48:24,720 --> 01:48:27,320
Speaker 1: would say Trey Lance in terms of really liking Trey

1913
01:48:27,439 --> 01:48:30,679
Speaker 1: Lance easier to kind of kind of back those guys

1914
01:48:30,720 --> 01:48:33,719
Speaker 1: and sponsor those guys was I looked back and I go, Okay,

1915
01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:36,920
Speaker 1: it was too low on Patrick Mahomes. Well, Mahomes came in,

1916
01:48:37,040 --> 01:48:41,000
Speaker 1: he was so raw, but he had this unbelievable talent.

1917
01:48:41,479 --> 01:48:45,040
Speaker 1: And then you had Josh Allen, who in hindsight should

1918
01:48:45,080 --> 01:48:48,759
Speaker 1: have had him up higher. Again unbelievably raw and talented.

1919
01:48:49,320 --> 01:48:51,320
Speaker 1: But here's what I here's a lesson that you learn.

1920
01:48:51,640 --> 01:48:56,200
Speaker 1: Those guys Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes incredibly intelligent, incredibly

1921
01:48:56,280 --> 01:48:59,600
Speaker 1: hard working, and they love football. So like when you

1922
01:48:59,680 --> 01:49:01,360
Speaker 1: go back, I can do the background on those guys.

1923
01:49:01,400 --> 01:49:03,760
Speaker 1: As you did, those things came up. And so what

1924
01:49:03,920 --> 01:49:06,200
Speaker 1: I got to the point was, Okay, look, if you've

1925
01:49:06,240 --> 01:49:09,720
Speaker 1: got the talent, you work hard, you love football, you're

1926
01:49:09,760 --> 01:49:11,920
Speaker 1: gonna figure it out. Like eventually, you just got so

1927
01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:14,240
Speaker 1: much ability, you're gonna work at it and you're eventually

1928
01:49:14,240 --> 01:49:16,040
Speaker 1: going to put it put it together. So that was

1929
01:49:16,120 --> 01:49:18,639
Speaker 1: like with Zach and with Trey Lance, two guys who

1930
01:49:18,960 --> 01:49:21,720
Speaker 1: aren't a finished product, so to speak, but you've got

1931
01:49:21,840 --> 01:49:24,720
Speaker 1: unbelievable ability. And then when I got to meet with

1932
01:49:24,880 --> 01:49:27,599
Speaker 1: Trey and talk to folks that were around Zach, they

1933
01:49:27,800 --> 01:49:30,280
Speaker 1: rave about just how smart these dudes are and how

1934
01:49:30,360 --> 01:49:32,560
Speaker 1: hard they work at it. So that allowed me to

1935
01:49:32,840 --> 01:49:35,640
Speaker 1: maybe you don't see it all yet, but you can

1936
01:49:35,760 --> 01:49:38,200
Speaker 1: buy in on this thing coming together at some point time.

1937
01:49:38,400 --> 01:49:43,720
Speaker 1: So how difficult does that make the decision on a

1938
01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:47,040
Speaker 1: week to week basis for somebody like Kyle Shanahan, Because

1939
01:49:47,439 --> 01:49:49,439
Speaker 1: you come out of the preseason and Trey Lance is

1940
01:49:49,479 --> 01:49:53,200
Speaker 1: completed just over forty six percent of his passes. On occasion,

1941
01:49:53,479 --> 01:49:56,840
Speaker 1: it's looked unbelievable, but more often than not, in terms

1942
01:49:56,880 --> 01:49:59,360
Speaker 1: of keeping your team on the field, it probably hasn't

1943
01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:02,439
Speaker 1: reached a level the consistency that Kyle Shanahan wants. So

1944
01:50:03,520 --> 01:50:06,000
Speaker 1: is it just a matter of him assessing him every

1945
01:50:06,080 --> 01:50:09,400
Speaker 1: week in practice and saying, well, he's reached critical mass,

1946
01:50:09,479 --> 01:50:12,439
Speaker 1: now we can put him on the field. Yeah. First

1947
01:50:12,439 --> 01:50:13,720
Speaker 1: of all, I would be curious to know how many

1948
01:50:13,720 --> 01:50:15,760
Speaker 1: fingers he broke in the process of that forty six

1949
01:50:16,080 --> 01:50:19,840
Speaker 1: percent completion percentage, because I that that gosh, what is

1950
01:50:19,880 --> 01:50:22,439
Speaker 1: his name, the one Richie James, I think dropped four

1951
01:50:22,479 --> 01:50:24,160
Speaker 1: of his balls and I'm like, he still hasn't seen

1952
01:50:24,240 --> 01:50:26,479
Speaker 1: that ball yet, it's just on him. And then then

1953
01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:28,599
Speaker 1: he had some drops. Yeah, but I think you're gonna

1954
01:50:28,600 --> 01:50:30,800
Speaker 1: assess it, like you said, just the week, the week

1955
01:50:30,880 --> 01:50:33,800
Speaker 1: by week growth. The interesting thing is that Trey has

1956
01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:36,960
Speaker 1: kind of that trump card, which is while I'm learning,

1957
01:50:37,280 --> 01:50:39,800
Speaker 1: while I'm becoming more you know, more accurate, and be

1958
01:50:39,960 --> 01:50:42,400
Speaker 1: learning how to take a little off the ball. While

1959
01:50:42,400 --> 01:50:44,559
Speaker 1: I'm doing all that, I can rush the ball twelve

1960
01:50:44,680 --> 01:50:47,240
Speaker 1: thirteen times a game and probably get you, you know,

1961
01:50:47,439 --> 01:50:50,840
Speaker 1: eighty yards. Not to mention, the backs are going to

1962
01:50:50,920 --> 01:50:53,519
Speaker 1: be able to get loose because now the backside defensive

1963
01:50:53,640 --> 01:50:55,679
Speaker 1: end has to account for me on every single play.

1964
01:50:55,680 --> 01:50:57,479
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna change the math in the run game

1965
01:50:57,560 --> 01:51:00,240
Speaker 1: so he can impact the game far beyond what he

1966
01:51:00,360 --> 01:51:04,000
Speaker 1: does just throwing the football and running that traditional Shanahan offense.

1967
01:51:04,080 --> 01:51:06,760
Speaker 1: So everybody's intrigue to see how they're gonna put this

1968
01:51:06,840 --> 01:51:09,320
Speaker 1: thing together. I tend to think that you'll see Trey

1969
01:51:09,400 --> 01:51:11,479
Speaker 1: Lance sprinkled in. I think you'll see him sprinkled in

1970
01:51:11,520 --> 01:51:14,320
Speaker 1: Week one. I think they'll find plays for him down

1971
01:51:14,360 --> 01:51:16,640
Speaker 1: in the goal line, maybe in some short yardage. But

1972
01:51:16,840 --> 01:51:18,760
Speaker 1: just let a defense, even if you played him one

1973
01:51:18,800 --> 01:51:22,080
Speaker 1: series of game as an opponent, to have to spend

1974
01:51:22,160 --> 01:51:25,920
Speaker 1: your time to try and figure out assignments. When they

1975
01:51:25,960 --> 01:51:27,479
Speaker 1: can run the stuff they can run with him in

1976
01:51:27,520 --> 01:51:31,719
Speaker 1: the quarterback run game. It's going to be a nightmare, Daniel.

1977
01:51:31,760 --> 01:51:35,439
Speaker 1: Who's a team that no one's talking about that in

1978
01:51:35,600 --> 01:51:39,040
Speaker 1: December and January, we're gonna say, Wow, I didn't see

1979
01:51:39,120 --> 01:51:42,280
Speaker 1: that happening. Yeah, I think you know, Look, I think

1980
01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:45,000
Speaker 1: there's a couple teams out here in the AFC West,

1981
01:51:45,120 --> 01:51:47,040
Speaker 1: and you know, I do the Charger games. I know

1982
01:51:47,160 --> 01:51:49,559
Speaker 1: how talented they are. And everybody says this every year, right,

1983
01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:52,200
Speaker 1: everybody jumps in the Chargers. Then injuries, miss kicks, and

1984
01:51:52,560 --> 01:51:54,880
Speaker 1: you know, things go astray. But I'm just telling you

1985
01:51:54,960 --> 01:51:57,120
Speaker 1: watching this team a bunch. There's a lot of talent

1986
01:51:57,200 --> 01:51:59,559
Speaker 1: on that roster. And I would add the Denver Broncos

1987
01:51:59,600 --> 01:52:01,720
Speaker 1: into that mix as well. I don't you know, I

1988
01:52:01,760 --> 01:52:04,240
Speaker 1: don't necessarily love the decision to go with Teddy. I

1989
01:52:04,280 --> 01:52:06,120
Speaker 1: thought it would have made more sense to give Drew

1990
01:52:06,200 --> 01:52:08,320
Speaker 1: Locke one more crack at it, and then if it

1991
01:52:08,400 --> 01:52:11,080
Speaker 1: doesn't work Withdrew it, you know, Teddy comes in reserve,

1992
01:52:11,160 --> 01:52:13,800
Speaker 1: and it's fine, he'd come in there and clean it up.

1993
01:52:13,880 --> 01:52:15,760
Speaker 1: But they have a chance. When you look at a

1994
01:52:15,840 --> 01:52:18,439
Speaker 1: speed that they have. They've got two four four tight ends.

1995
01:52:18,720 --> 01:52:22,320
Speaker 1: You've got Jerry Judy Courtland Sutton, kJ Hamdler. It's like

1996
01:52:22,360 --> 01:52:24,960
Speaker 1: a track team that they have offensively, so if they

1997
01:52:25,040 --> 01:52:28,000
Speaker 1: can build up leads and get points, now you turn

1998
01:52:28,120 --> 01:52:30,559
Speaker 1: that defense loose with all their pass rushers and Patrick

1999
01:52:30,640 --> 01:52:33,800
Speaker 1: Surtan has been a great mix there with Vic who's

2000
01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:37,439
Speaker 1: a phenomenal defensive coach. I just think nobody really is

2001
01:52:37,520 --> 01:52:40,080
Speaker 1: pointing to the Denver Broncos, but it's gonna be on Teddy.

2002
01:52:40,160 --> 01:52:41,760
Speaker 1: You know, they're gonna have you have to score points

2003
01:52:41,760 --> 01:52:43,800
Speaker 1: in that division because the Chiefs are gonna score points,

2004
01:52:43,800 --> 01:52:45,600
Speaker 1: the Raiders are going to score points, the Chargers are

2005
01:52:45,640 --> 01:52:48,680
Speaker 1: gonna score points. So as Teddy enough, that's gonna be

2006
01:52:48,760 --> 01:52:51,200
Speaker 1: something we find out being as close as you are

2007
01:52:51,400 --> 01:52:55,280
Speaker 1: to the Charger situation, Like, what has been your early

2008
01:52:55,400 --> 01:52:59,799
Speaker 1: impressions of Brandon Staley? I mean, because from this vantage

2009
01:52:59,800 --> 01:53:01,840
Speaker 1: point point, I know Brian Dabele is one of the

2010
01:53:01,880 --> 01:53:05,440
Speaker 1: finalists for that job, and you know the Charges organization

2011
01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:07,519
Speaker 1: decides to go with a defensive head, a guy with

2012
01:53:07,600 --> 01:53:10,160
Speaker 1: a defensive pedigree at head coach. I'm just kind of

2013
01:53:10,200 --> 01:53:12,320
Speaker 1: curious how he's kind of set that all up and

2014
01:53:12,680 --> 01:53:17,080
Speaker 1: just your initial impressions of being around him. Yeah, I mean,

2015
01:53:17,400 --> 01:53:19,120
Speaker 1: I remember talking to coach day Ball when he was

2016
01:53:19,120 --> 01:53:22,440
Speaker 1: going through that interview process and having some phone conversations

2017
01:53:22,479 --> 01:53:25,800
Speaker 1: with him, and I Buffalo is very fortunate to again

2018
01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:28,040
Speaker 1: get to keep him in the fold there and let

2019
01:53:28,160 --> 01:53:30,000
Speaker 1: him continue to develop. Josh, He's going to be a

2020
01:53:30,040 --> 01:53:33,600
Speaker 1: great head coach when his time comes. With Staley, the

2021
01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:35,320
Speaker 1: thing that jumps out to me and the time that

2022
01:53:35,360 --> 01:53:38,120
Speaker 1: I've been around him, I mean, he is brilliant in

2023
01:53:38,320 --> 01:53:40,200
Speaker 1: terms of how he sees the game and how he

2024
01:53:40,320 --> 01:53:42,360
Speaker 1: calls the game. The Rams had the number one defense

2025
01:53:42,439 --> 01:53:44,960
Speaker 1: in the NFL last year, and you can look at

2026
01:53:45,040 --> 01:53:46,439
Speaker 1: him and say, well, they didn't you know, obviously got

2027
01:53:46,439 --> 01:53:48,800
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald and you've got Jalen Ramsey, but they were,

2028
01:53:49,160 --> 01:53:51,400
Speaker 1: you know, the linebacker position, they weren't very deep or

2029
01:53:51,520 --> 01:53:53,880
Speaker 1: very talented. And he just finds a way to accentuate

2030
01:53:53,960 --> 01:53:55,479
Speaker 1: your strengths and he finds a way to kind of

2031
01:53:55,520 --> 01:53:58,479
Speaker 1: hide your weaknesses. And so they didn't play to their

2032
01:53:58,479 --> 01:54:01,280
Speaker 1: guys in the preseason. He went with the McVeigh philosophy

2033
01:54:01,360 --> 01:54:04,680
Speaker 1: of just resting, sitting everybody not taking any chances. So

2034
01:54:05,160 --> 01:54:07,160
Speaker 1: even after being out there at a bunch of practices

2035
01:54:07,200 --> 01:54:10,120
Speaker 1: and seeing preseason games, I don't know exactly how this

2036
01:54:10,479 --> 01:54:12,479
Speaker 1: defense is gonna work, how they're gonna do it. All

2037
01:54:12,520 --> 01:54:15,479
Speaker 1: I know is he's got some incredibly talented players with

2038
01:54:15,680 --> 01:54:18,080
Speaker 1: you know, and with Durwin James and Joey Bosa and company,

2039
01:54:18,680 --> 01:54:21,240
Speaker 1: Kenneth Murray, and he's got a lot of speed. So

2040
01:54:21,640 --> 01:54:23,800
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see how he deploys all these guys.

2041
01:54:23,840 --> 01:54:25,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, if you're around him for five minutes, like, Okay,

2042
01:54:25,840 --> 01:54:28,080
Speaker 1: that dude's he's smart. Yeah, he's I just not and

2043
01:54:28,200 --> 01:54:30,160
Speaker 1: pretend like I know exactly what he's saying. And there's

2044
01:54:30,160 --> 01:54:34,240
Speaker 1: a couple things just shooting right right over me. Hey, Daniel,

2045
01:54:34,440 --> 01:54:36,360
Speaker 1: one more question about quarterbacks. You know what happened this

2046
01:54:36,440 --> 01:54:40,880
Speaker 1: conversation and it occurs to me. Then in the AFC East,

2047
01:54:41,240 --> 01:54:43,840
Speaker 1: you know, the Bills, of course have a non power

2048
01:54:43,960 --> 01:54:46,560
Speaker 1: five guy at quarterback. We talked about Zach Wilson b

2049
01:54:46,720 --> 01:54:48,560
Speaker 1: why you're not a small school, but it's a non

2050
01:54:48,640 --> 01:54:52,680
Speaker 1: power five. You mentioned Trey Lance. Patrick Mahomes is a

2051
01:54:52,800 --> 01:54:56,440
Speaker 1: power five guy, but he's not one of the traditional powers.

2052
01:54:56,560 --> 01:54:59,040
Speaker 1: And then among the quarterbacks in college football this year,

2053
01:54:59,080 --> 01:55:01,960
Speaker 1: you look at them, a lead Willis, who went to

2054
01:55:02,120 --> 01:55:05,280
Speaker 1: Auburn and plays at a nonpower five now and Carson

2055
01:55:05,360 --> 01:55:09,200
Speaker 1: Strong on nonpower five guy, with all of the scouting

2056
01:55:09,280 --> 01:55:12,480
Speaker 1: that is done, and with all of the tape that's

2057
01:55:12,520 --> 01:55:17,880
Speaker 1: available on tape material that's available on guys, now, how

2058
01:55:18,000 --> 01:55:21,360
Speaker 1: is it that we're often seeing schools not identify at

2059
01:55:21,400 --> 01:55:23,880
Speaker 1: these guys. How are these players slipping through the cracks

2060
01:55:23,920 --> 01:55:27,400
Speaker 1: to the degree that they are Well, I think there's

2061
01:55:27,440 --> 01:55:29,360
Speaker 1: it's a great question, Kevin to me. I think there's

2062
01:55:29,360 --> 01:55:32,920
Speaker 1: a difference between trying to position yourself to be the best,

2063
01:55:33,320 --> 01:55:36,080
Speaker 1: you know, sixteen seventeen year old quarterback you can be,

2064
01:55:36,720 --> 01:55:39,440
Speaker 1: versus trying to be the best twenty two, twenty three

2065
01:55:39,520 --> 01:55:41,440
Speaker 1: year old quarterback you can be. And I think what

2066
01:55:41,560 --> 01:55:43,000
Speaker 1: we see as a lot of you know, the offers. Now,

2067
01:55:43,040 --> 01:55:44,960
Speaker 1: we're going out to these kids as freshman sophomores in

2068
01:55:45,040 --> 01:55:47,959
Speaker 1: high school and a lot of those kids are football

2069
01:55:48,080 --> 01:55:50,720
Speaker 1: only that as urban Meyer used to talk to me about.

2070
01:55:50,760 --> 01:55:53,320
Speaker 1: He called them spandex quarterbacks. Right. So they're playing seven

2071
01:55:53,400 --> 01:55:55,920
Speaker 1: on seven year round and going to quarterback camp here

2072
01:55:56,000 --> 01:55:58,360
Speaker 1: and they're in the Elite eleven are doing all this stuff. Meanwhile,

2073
01:55:58,760 --> 01:56:01,480
Speaker 1: you know, Zach Wilson playing basketball. You know, all these

2074
01:56:01,520 --> 01:56:04,600
Speaker 1: other guys are playing multiple sports and developing their whole

2075
01:56:04,680 --> 01:56:09,000
Speaker 1: athlete and competing all year round, and then all of

2076
01:56:09,040 --> 01:56:11,400
Speaker 1: a sudden they arrive at college. Maybe they're at this level,

2077
01:56:11,760 --> 01:56:13,960
Speaker 1: but man, two to three years later, you're seeing this

2078
01:56:14,520 --> 01:56:17,880
Speaker 1: transition and this growth, this transformation, and these guys where

2079
01:56:18,080 --> 01:56:20,000
Speaker 1: you know, if you're at some of these power five schools,

2080
01:56:20,360 --> 01:56:23,000
Speaker 1: you're excited you brought this kid in. But he's maxed,

2081
01:56:23,080 --> 01:56:25,080
Speaker 1: he is tapped, he's at a private quarterback coach. And

2082
01:56:25,160 --> 01:56:27,480
Speaker 1: so he was twelve years old. He was you know,

2083
01:56:27,560 --> 01:56:30,920
Speaker 1: everything was about getting that scholarship. He wasn't playing other sports.

2084
01:56:31,080 --> 01:56:32,720
Speaker 1: And what you see is what you get. They don't

2085
01:56:32,760 --> 01:56:35,560
Speaker 1: get better. So I think there is something to that

2086
01:56:35,760 --> 01:56:37,920
Speaker 1: with these guys that just you know, Josh Allen, I mean,

2087
01:56:38,040 --> 01:56:39,400
Speaker 1: I have to go back and look, but I'm sure

2088
01:56:39,440 --> 01:56:41,160
Speaker 1: you guys have heard the story a million times. He

2089
01:56:41,320 --> 01:56:43,080
Speaker 1: was just he grew like crazy. He went to a

2090
01:56:43,120 --> 01:56:46,320
Speaker 1: crazy growth spurt, so nobody was talking to him when

2091
01:56:46,360 --> 01:56:48,560
Speaker 1: he was young. Yeah, and he played basketball and he

2092
01:56:48,640 --> 01:56:50,080
Speaker 1: was a pitcher in baseball. So he was a three

2093
01:56:50,120 --> 01:56:54,080
Speaker 1: sport athlete over there at Fire exactly. Yeah, listen, DJ,

2094
01:56:54,240 --> 01:56:59,120
Speaker 1: we appreciate the time as always enjoy the radio broadcast

2095
01:56:59,200 --> 01:57:01,840
Speaker 1: chair again. There's all we know you have a lot

2096
01:57:01,840 --> 01:57:04,480
Speaker 1: of fun doing those Chargers games, so we appreciate it,

2097
01:57:04,560 --> 01:57:06,480
Speaker 1: and I'm sure we'll catch up with you down the line.

2098
01:57:07,760 --> 01:57:09,800
Speaker 1: It's always it's always a treat, Kevin. It's great to

2099
01:57:09,840 --> 01:57:12,120
Speaker 1: meet you as well. Until tasker I said, what's up,

2100
01:57:12,440 --> 01:57:15,680
Speaker 1: I will do that. We will take a break here,

2101
01:57:15,760 --> 01:57:19,040
Speaker 1: but when we come back, Kevin and I, we'll get

2102
01:57:19,120 --> 01:57:22,640
Speaker 1: your last thoughts from the Friday mail bag. And we've

2103
01:57:22,680 --> 01:57:24,960
Speaker 1: got a question I think for Kevin as well from

2104
01:57:25,240 --> 01:57:27,280
Speaker 1: a listener. We'll fire that off at him when we

2105
01:57:27,360 --> 01:57:29,720
Speaker 1: return here on one Bill's Live, presented by Collid to Health.

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. So we've got one more question

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Speaker 1: here in the fan Friday mail Bag, and this one

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01:57:46,960 --> 01:57:51,040
Speaker 1: has been posed to you, Kevin and Robert wants to

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Speaker 1: know what is your favorite Buffalo sports moment. I think

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Speaker 1: I gave this a little bit of thought because I

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Speaker 1: did see it earlier. There are a lot. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you gotta remember that I'm of a certain age that

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Speaker 1: when the Bills were making their their four playoff run,

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Speaker 1: four super Bowl run of the playoffs. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: the sweet spot for me as a fan. I'm in

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01:58:18,000 --> 01:58:21,200
Speaker 1: high school in college, so I'm living and dying with

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01:58:21,400 --> 01:58:24,200
Speaker 1: every single one of those Super Bowls. Not to say

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be now, but really living and dying back then.

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Speaker 1: For me, it's the it's the ninety three playoff comeback

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Speaker 1: against the Oilers. And I've told this story before. I

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Speaker 1: was doing my college application for Ithaca College where I

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Speaker 1: wound up going, yeah, started watching the game. We fall

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Speaker 1: behind big, This game's over. I gotta bang this application out.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it. I don't know. I can't watch anymore.

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01:58:48,200 --> 01:58:51,200
Speaker 1: So I go into my room filling out the application.

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01:58:51,360 --> 01:58:54,680
Speaker 1: My dad calls in, Hey, it's so. It's thirty five

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01:58:54,760 --> 01:58:58,320
Speaker 1: to ten. Not interested, dad, Bills just scored again. It's

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Speaker 1: thirty five seventeen. All right, I'm going to continue filling

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Speaker 1: out the application. Bills just recovered the you know, picked

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01:59:05,840 --> 01:59:08,960
Speaker 1: off whatever. The all of a sudden, the complexion of

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01:59:09,000 --> 01:59:11,960
Speaker 1: the game changes dramatically. So but that's my memory of

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01:59:12,040 --> 01:59:16,160
Speaker 1: that game. It's one that for me, I don't know

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01:59:16,320 --> 01:59:19,040
Speaker 1: that there will ever be a Bills game that, other

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01:59:19,160 --> 01:59:21,840
Speaker 1: than a Super Bowl win, that would supplant that as

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01:59:22,320 --> 01:59:26,320
Speaker 1: the most memorable, most electrifying moment for me as a

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01:59:26,360 --> 01:59:29,920
Speaker 1: Bills fan. Yeah, and I gotta say, you know, sitting

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01:59:30,120 --> 01:59:32,960
Speaker 1: next to Tasker and hearing him talk about that game

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01:59:33,000 --> 01:59:35,800
Speaker 1: and in many different ways several times on this show,

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01:59:37,960 --> 01:59:42,840
Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. He said. Once they went up thirty

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01:59:42,920 --> 01:59:46,360
Speaker 1: five to three with the interception and the third quarter,

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01:59:46,880 --> 01:59:50,680
Speaker 1: you know, interception return for a touchdown, he said, they

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01:59:50,760 --> 01:59:54,320
Speaker 1: just took their foot off the gas. And he said,

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01:59:54,400 --> 01:59:57,680
Speaker 1: even then in the NFL, you can't. You couldn't do that,

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01:59:58,360 --> 02:00:01,480
Speaker 1: he said, certainly not against the team like hours. And

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02:00:01,840 --> 02:00:05,920
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people forget Kevin no, Jim Kelly,

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02:00:06,840 --> 02:00:14,960
Speaker 1: no Thurman Thomas, no, Cornelius Bennett in that game against Right,

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02:00:15,720 --> 02:00:19,120
Speaker 1: it's a great point, right, it's the it's the backup quarterback.

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02:00:20,160 --> 02:00:22,240
Speaker 1: I forgot Thurman didn't play in that game. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: it's it's the backup quarterback against You know, you want

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02:00:26,240 --> 02:00:28,400
Speaker 1: to talk about an offense that was twenty five years

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02:00:28,400 --> 02:00:31,320
Speaker 1: ahead of its time with a Hall of Fame quarterback themselves.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I mean that you know that team,

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02:00:34,440 --> 02:00:36,800
Speaker 1: they all they did was throw the football, and they

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02:00:36,920 --> 02:00:42,040
Speaker 1: had some amazing receivers on that team. And and I

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02:00:42,080 --> 02:00:45,920
Speaker 1: mean to think that they've got a thirty what do

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02:00:46,000 --> 02:00:49,440
Speaker 1: we say, thirty five three, thirty two point lead. There's

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Speaker 1: even if even if the defense collapses, that offense is

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02:00:53,680 --> 02:00:57,839
Speaker 1: still going to score some points. All of those ingredients

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Speaker 1: the backup quarterback against that team in a playoff game,

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Speaker 1: it was it was magic. It was sort of the

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Speaker 1: it's in some ways, Chris, it's kind of where we

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02:01:09,040 --> 02:01:13,040
Speaker 1: are right now. Right the roller coaster is ascending. We're

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02:01:13,120 --> 02:01:16,360
Speaker 1: not at the top like we're it's it's it's getting there.

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Speaker 1: And that's kind of where that team was at that

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Speaker 1: stage of their run. And it was just such a magical,

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02:01:22,280 --> 02:01:24,760
Speaker 1: charming time and it was fun to see the evolution

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02:01:24,840 --> 02:01:27,400
Speaker 1: of the team again similar to where we are right now.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know that there will ever be a

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Speaker 1: better comeback in the history of football. Yeah. My personal

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Speaker 1: story around that game was I am at my girlfriend's

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02:01:37,800 --> 02:01:41,760
Speaker 1: house here in Buffalo, who would eventually become my wife

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Speaker 1: because we had met at school, and I was here

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02:01:45,400 --> 02:01:48,000
Speaker 1: because I was here on break. But the very next

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Speaker 1: day I was starting an internship with the Rochester Americans

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02:01:52,080 --> 02:01:56,360
Speaker 1: AHL hockey team, and so I had to start traveling

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02:01:56,480 --> 02:02:00,960
Speaker 1: back to my campus at Geneseo. I'm a kid and

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Speaker 1: I'm I literally listened to the second half of the

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Speaker 1: game in my eighty two Corolla on the New York

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Speaker 1: State Thruway driving back to Geneseo. So I listened to

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Speaker 1: Van the whole way back, and I'm listening to this game,

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02:02:14,120 --> 02:02:18,360
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, this is insane. This is absolutely insane.

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02:02:18,720 --> 02:02:21,720
Speaker 1: And of course, the closer you get to Geneseeo in

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02:02:21,760 --> 02:02:25,880
Speaker 1: the valley there, your reception starts to dwindle, and so

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02:02:27,440 --> 02:02:29,800
Speaker 1: I was losing reception to the point where I literally

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02:02:29,920 --> 02:02:33,760
Speaker 1: pulled over and I'm just sitting on the shoulder somewhere

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02:02:33,840 --> 02:02:39,000
Speaker 1: in like Bethany, New York on Root sixty three, waiting

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02:02:39,080 --> 02:02:40,960
Speaker 1: for the game to end to see if they actually

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02:02:41,000 --> 02:02:44,240
Speaker 1: would pull it off, because it went to overtime and

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02:02:44,320 --> 02:02:45,840
Speaker 1: I knew I was going to lose the signal, so

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02:02:46,000 --> 02:02:48,320
Speaker 1: I was like, well, i gotta sit here in Idol

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02:02:48,360 --> 02:02:50,760
Speaker 1: for a while and see if they win this dang game.

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Speaker 1: It was bananas, absolutely bananas. When you think about who

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Speaker 1: wasn't playing in that game for them, it's crazy. And

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02:02:58,160 --> 02:03:00,280
Speaker 1: you know, I'm watching Frank Reich run off the field

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02:03:00,320 --> 02:03:02,760
Speaker 1: in the footage we were just showing, and there's a

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Speaker 1: part of me that's saying I wonder if Mitchell Trubisky

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Speaker 1: is going to have to be in a spot like

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Speaker 1: that one week or another. God forbid, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. But I feel so much better that they

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02:03:13,880 --> 02:03:17,200
Speaker 1: have a guy like Trubisky who I think his physical

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Speaker 1: skill set is more in line with Josh than all

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Speaker 1: respect to Matt Barkley. Then Matt Barkley skill set. I'm

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02:03:25,360 --> 02:03:27,680
Speaker 1: not saying he's Josh Allen, but there are more things

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02:03:27,720 --> 02:03:30,360
Speaker 1: that Trubisky can do extending the play, those kinds of

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02:03:30,480 --> 02:03:34,080
Speaker 1: things that fall more in line with Alan as a

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Speaker 1: quarterback than Barkley had. It's a fair point. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I suppose you know this is this is the the

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02:03:42,800 --> 02:03:44,680
Speaker 1: Bills fan in me that the initial thought that I

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Speaker 1: had after watching Trubisky playing the previous season was, hey,

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Speaker 1: what can we flip them for? You know, like we

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02:03:50,360 --> 02:03:53,560
Speaker 1: might need at some point, sure, but hey, this is

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Speaker 1: this is great currency in the offseason, you know, at

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Speaker 1: some point and again it speaks to me, you know, look,

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02:03:59,760 --> 02:04:01,360
Speaker 1: let's let's hope he stays in the fold and we

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02:04:01,480 --> 02:04:04,880
Speaker 1: need you know, there's never such a thing as too

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02:04:04,960 --> 02:04:08,080
Speaker 1: much depth, and he certainly looks like he can perform

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02:04:08,280 --> 02:04:10,320
Speaker 1: very very well in the system. But what does that

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02:04:10,400 --> 02:04:13,440
Speaker 1: say about Brian Dable. I mean that in Chicago they

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02:04:13,440 --> 02:04:17,400
Speaker 1: couldn't unlocked this guy, and it's it's one preseason game. Boy,

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Speaker 1: it was a damn good preseason game for Trubisky. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and uh, don't think there wasn't any exacting of revenge

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Speaker 1: plans that weren't part of that equation a few weeks ago.

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02:04:28,720 --> 02:04:30,680
Speaker 1: I think Davel was trying to make his guy look

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02:04:30,760 --> 02:04:34,320
Speaker 1: good and he did right by him for sure. Kevin.

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Speaker 1: Time for a little NFL true false, brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Yancey's Fancy New York's artisan Cheese, and we begin

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Speaker 1: here a Jimmy Garoppolo Trey Lance quarterback rotation would work

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Speaker 1: for the forty nine ers. True or false. We already

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Speaker 1: had Daniel Jeremiah on the show talking about how he's

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Speaker 1: anticipating seeing such in occurrence. I'm gonna go fall and

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02:05:00,600 --> 02:05:02,960
Speaker 1: I'm not a cliche guy, but I am a big

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02:05:03,040 --> 02:05:06,040
Speaker 1: believer in the If you have two quarterbacks, you have

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02:05:06,200 --> 02:05:08,600
Speaker 1: no quarterbacks. So I think at some point you've got

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02:05:08,720 --> 02:05:11,280
Speaker 1: to have a guy that is the one that the

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02:05:11,400 --> 02:05:16,000
Speaker 1: team identifies as your quarterback. And so to me, Thick one,

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Speaker 1: and by the way, that one's gonna be Trey Lance.

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02:05:20,320 --> 02:05:25,600
Speaker 1: But I think a rotation generally speaking doesn't work. Yeah,

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02:05:26,120 --> 02:05:28,000
Speaker 1: this is interesting because I don't think this is going

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02:05:28,040 --> 02:05:31,320
Speaker 1: to be the only I don't know if platoon situation

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02:05:31,480 --> 02:05:34,600
Speaker 1: is appropriate here because I think, much like Daniel Jeremiah

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02:05:34,640 --> 02:05:36,560
Speaker 1: laid out, I think if Lance plays, he's going to

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02:05:36,640 --> 02:05:41,400
Speaker 1: be sprinkled in, presumably in red zone, maybe in some

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02:05:41,560 --> 02:05:46,760
Speaker 1: other type of read option packages. But I think Garoppolo

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02:05:46,840 --> 02:05:50,160
Speaker 1: gets the balance of the snaps, especially in the first

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02:05:50,360 --> 02:05:52,160
Speaker 1: month of the season, and then if Lance comes on,

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02:05:52,280 --> 02:05:54,320
Speaker 1: well then maybe the conversation changes. But I think we're

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02:05:54,320 --> 02:05:57,320
Speaker 1: gonna see this in New Orleans. Also with Taysom Hill

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02:05:57,440 --> 02:06:00,240
Speaker 1: as a packaged kind of quarterback may be in the

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02:06:00,280 --> 02:06:02,280
Speaker 1: red zone as well, knowing he runs with the ball

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Speaker 1: and Winston usually does not. I'm intrigued. I'm not convinced,

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02:06:09,080 --> 02:06:13,440
Speaker 1: so I don't know. I'm waffling on this. Kevin, I

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02:06:14,240 --> 02:06:16,560
Speaker 1: there's a part of me that says they have a

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02:06:16,680 --> 02:06:19,680
Speaker 1: chance to be more diversified and a better offense. Because

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Speaker 1: maybe it's because I'm not a huge believer in Garoppolo.

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Speaker 1: So because of that, I'm gonna say true I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna roll with the Shanahan decision if this is

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02:06:29,600 --> 02:06:32,760
Speaker 1: what it proves to be, and say this works better

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02:06:32,840 --> 02:06:35,960
Speaker 1: than just Garoppolo all by himself. That's the only reason

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02:06:36,040 --> 02:06:38,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying it because I don't have a ton of

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02:06:38,400 --> 02:06:40,760
Speaker 1: faith in Jimmy g That guy should just spend more

2261
02:06:40,840 --> 02:06:44,360
Speaker 1: time being a cover on magazines, cover model on magazines

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02:06:44,360 --> 02:06:47,000
Speaker 1: than he should be playing NFL football. My wife is

2263
02:06:47,080 --> 02:06:51,280
Speaker 1: just I'll never forget this Kevin Quick story. We're watching

2264
02:06:51,400 --> 02:06:55,879
Speaker 1: Bill's Patriots and or no, we're watching a Patriots playoff

2265
02:06:55,920 --> 02:06:59,400
Speaker 1: game because I'm wherever the Bills are usually, and they

2266
02:06:59,480 --> 02:07:01,720
Speaker 1: show time Brady on the sidelines and this is years

2267
02:07:01,760 --> 02:07:04,720
Speaker 1: ago when Garoppolo is there and Brady's talking to Garoppolo

2268
02:07:04,800 --> 02:07:09,000
Speaker 1: on the sideline, and in typical Buffalonian fashion, my wife

2269
02:07:09,040 --> 02:07:13,200
Speaker 1: goes with Jeezi Yai. Even their backup quarterback looks like

2270
02:07:13,240 --> 02:07:15,280
Speaker 1: a model. What do they not have in New England.

2271
02:07:15,800 --> 02:07:20,720
Speaker 1: That's my wife's that's my wife's discussed with the Patriots

2272
02:07:20,760 --> 02:07:22,160
Speaker 1: at that point in time. That's why you got a

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02:07:22,200 --> 02:07:25,200
Speaker 1: lover um. But yeah, that's why I think I think

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02:07:25,280 --> 02:07:27,960
Speaker 1: that we'll see I think the platoon might work for them,

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02:07:28,040 --> 02:07:31,440
Speaker 1: depending on how Shanahan deploys it all right, NFL true false.

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02:07:31,560 --> 02:07:36,840
Speaker 1: Number two, NFL teams should just acknowledge their rookie quarterbacks

2277
02:07:37,160 --> 02:07:39,360
Speaker 1: are going to play. This is obviously with a nod

2278
02:07:39,400 --> 02:07:46,640
Speaker 1: to Chicago at some time, at some point it is

2279
02:07:46,800 --> 02:07:51,880
Speaker 1: a win. Now. League coaches and general managers' futures are

2280
02:07:51,960 --> 02:07:55,800
Speaker 1: tied to these guys who they have drafted because you've

2281
02:07:55,880 --> 02:07:59,600
Speaker 1: got to have a quarterback at all costs. Fan base

2282
02:07:59,760 --> 02:08:02,160
Speaker 1: is it. And when you pick a guy as high

2283
02:08:02,200 --> 02:08:04,920
Speaker 1: as the first round or in the first half of

2284
02:08:05,000 --> 02:08:08,200
Speaker 1: the first round, you need to hit on that. But

2285
02:08:08,320 --> 02:08:11,840
Speaker 1: as we discussed earlier, you're not putting justin Fields out

2286
02:08:11,880 --> 02:08:14,000
Speaker 1: there in Week one, a guy who doesn't even have

2287
02:08:14,040 --> 02:08:17,000
Speaker 1: a ton of college games under his belt. You're not

2288
02:08:17,120 --> 02:08:19,800
Speaker 1: putting him out there in Week one against Aaron Donald

2289
02:08:19,880 --> 02:08:23,320
Speaker 1: and Rams on the road. I just there's a reason

2290
02:08:23,440 --> 02:08:27,320
Speaker 1: Edie Dalton is storing those games. So if the question is,

2291
02:08:27,960 --> 02:08:31,640
Speaker 1: put guys out there right away, just because I don't

2292
02:08:31,720 --> 02:08:33,960
Speaker 1: rubber stamp that, and I am a big I am

2293
02:08:34,040 --> 02:08:37,560
Speaker 1: a big experience is the best teacher person. But but

2294
02:08:37,680 --> 02:08:41,800
Speaker 1: there are such things as bad experiences. So NFL teams

2295
02:08:41,840 --> 02:08:44,280
Speaker 1: should just acknowledge their rookie quarterbacks are going to play.

2296
02:08:44,400 --> 02:08:47,720
Speaker 1: I would say false, though there is some truth to it.

2297
02:08:47,880 --> 02:08:50,480
Speaker 1: At some point they're going to play, but not just

2298
02:08:51,200 --> 02:08:53,400
Speaker 1: play to play. I think there's got to be a

2299
02:08:53,480 --> 02:08:57,160
Speaker 1: game plan for this. Yeah, I am using that angle

2300
02:08:57,400 --> 02:09:00,880
Speaker 1: as the reason for me saying because I think there's

2301
02:09:00,920 --> 02:09:04,240
Speaker 1: a way for a coach to navigate this discussion with

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02:09:04,360 --> 02:09:07,440
Speaker 1: the media when they're posed these questions where they can

2303
02:09:07,520 --> 02:09:10,360
Speaker 1: just say, hey, look, we think a lot of this kid.

2304
02:09:10,680 --> 02:09:13,280
Speaker 1: He's gonna play. He's just not flat out he's just

2305
02:09:13,360 --> 02:09:16,000
Speaker 1: flat out not ready yet, and so we feel our

2306
02:09:16,040 --> 02:09:18,400
Speaker 1: best opportunity to win a football game is with this guy. Now,

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02:09:18,440 --> 02:09:20,320
Speaker 1: of course, that could prompt a whole another series of

2308
02:09:20,400 --> 02:09:22,120
Speaker 1: quick well when is he When is he gonna play?

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02:09:22,240 --> 02:09:23,960
Speaker 1: He said he's gonna play. When's that gonna happen? Is

2310
02:09:24,000 --> 02:09:27,080
Speaker 1: that week four? Is that week six? So I understand

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02:09:27,160 --> 02:09:29,840
Speaker 1: why they often take the tack that they do, But

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02:09:29,920 --> 02:09:33,440
Speaker 1: for goodness sake, I mean, urban Meyer two weeks ago

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Speaker 1: was saying, well, we still don't know who's gonna start

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Speaker 1: week one. It's like, really, Gardner Minshew or Trevor Lawrence,

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Speaker 1: are you serious? Like I understand you're trying to keep

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Speaker 1: things competitive. But really, and then two weeks later they

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Speaker 1: trade Gardner Minshew, Yeah, and Chris That's that's a great point.

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Speaker 1: That to me is the difference. Okay, the body of

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Speaker 1: work that Trevor Lawrence had at Clemson. I mean, he

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Speaker 1: was playing in the NFL developed mental league. He played

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Speaker 1: in so many big games throughout the course of his career.

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Speaker 1: He has all of that experience justin fields though he

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Speaker 1: played at Ohio State and played in meaningful games, didn't

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Speaker 1: play three years worth of snaps at Ohio State. There's

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a difference right there. So you know,

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Speaker 1: and listen, even the situation Lawrence is stepping into, he's

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Speaker 1: got to be on the field. He is undeniably the

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Speaker 1: future in Jacksonville, but he's gonna get his butt kicked.

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Speaker 1: And you know, listen that you run a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a risk when you do that to a young quarterback.

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Speaker 1: If he's on his back half the time, that's a problem.

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Speaker 1: But again, Lawrence, Lawrence is the different. Lawrence is the outlier.

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Speaker 1: He's the guy that has to play right away. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, that is NFL True Falls brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Yancy's fancy New York's artist in Cheese. We have

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Speaker 1: to break here, but Kevin and I will close things

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Speaker 1: up with what we have learned that's coming up next

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Speaker 1: here on One Bill's Live, presented by Collid of Health.

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, it's that time in

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Speaker 1: the show for what we have learned. And I think

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Speaker 1: we learned that even the experts, people like Daniel Jeremiah,

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Speaker 1: who flat out knows his stuff, I don't think we're

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Speaker 1: going to debate that for a second. It seems like

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Speaker 1: he's got confidence to the Bill's pas where she's going

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02:11:19,920 --> 02:11:22,920
Speaker 1: to be much improved, not only because of Rousseau and

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Speaker 1: bash him, but just because of the collective. I think

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Speaker 1: no one stars coming back helping it Oliver on the inside,

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Speaker 1: getting him one on one matchups. When you hear a

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Speaker 1: guy that is an authority on player, talent and scheme,

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Speaker 1: that's gotta make I don't know about you, but it

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Speaker 1: makes me feel good. I'm encouraged. I'm all the more

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Speaker 1: encouraged big time. And that was sort of what I

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Speaker 1: was getting out when I spoke to Daniel and asked

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Speaker 1: him the question about tremade Edmonds was like, you know,

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Speaker 1: not having store Latoula in the mix last year affects

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Speaker 1: a lot of things, right, It affects your ability to

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Speaker 1: stop the run and get to the quarterback and stop

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Speaker 1: guys at the next level, like at the linebacker positions.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, having him back and hearing Dan you'll say that,

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Speaker 1: and having guys who can go get the quarterback and

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Speaker 1: a get I think Russo Rizo is going to be

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Speaker 1: you know, almost sort of like a like a you know,

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Speaker 1: like a specialty guy. And we'll see him play more

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Speaker 1: than just third down, but on third down situations for sure.

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Speaker 1: Get in there and your one goal is to get

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Speaker 1: to the quarterback, and I certainly think it'll make a difference,

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Speaker 1: let's hope a big enough difference to get past the

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Speaker 1: teams that we got to beat in the AFC. Now,

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Speaker 1: last thing here, on a completely different subject, we know

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Speaker 1: Alexi Lalas from Fox who covers soccer. Being a former

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Speaker 1: US men's national team member, he apparently has a very

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Speaker 1: strong opinion. He has strong opinions on just about everything,

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Speaker 1: but on wings as well. He once tweeted wings are ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: The return on investment is horrible. They are messy, frustrating,

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Speaker 1: and inevitably unsatisfying sauces are literally used to cover up

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Speaker 1: the abomination in a basket. Now, he couldn't be more wrong.

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Speaker 1: But what I would suggest to Alexei is something a

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Speaker 1: former college teammate of mine and Western New York native

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Speaker 1: told me. When you are eating wings and you want

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Speaker 1: to stay as clean as possible, you only use one

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Speaker 1: hand for the duration. Everything you pick up is with

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Speaker 1: one hand. You eat with one hand and discard with

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Speaker 1: one hand. Use same hand. You will cut your mess

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Speaker 1: in half. What do you think of that? Interesting? I

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Speaker 1: thought that the strategy behind that was because you needed

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Speaker 1: to have a clean hand to grab your beer. I

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Speaker 1: thought it does facilitate quick reference of the beverage at

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Speaker 1: hand in case you need to cool your gullet off

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Speaker 1: from the spiciness of the wings. See what you learn

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Speaker 1: stuff here every day. Listen, Kevin, you've been great. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate the time you gave us. I'm sure we'll catch

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Speaker 1: up with you down the road. But if we don't

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Speaker 1: before the season opener, we know you'll be watching. We'll

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Speaker 1: keep an eye off for you on ESPN. Thanks much,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for installments. Be seen s