1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: After my Broncos ran over the Cowboys yesterday for one 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy nine yards and Bowl next throwing for 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: two seventy four and four touchdowns, Jerry Jones gave a brutal, 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 1: honest quote about his Cowboys. I don't know. I don't 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: know what's realistic. Could one better player if we didn't 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: pay too big of a price, have a better player 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: on defense? 8 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 2: Possibly help. 9 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be cute, but that's where you 10 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: go get help because you think that you could go 11 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: get help for your defense. Are we one player away 12 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: on defense? I think we're not. I think we're more 13 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: than than that. But we're closer than it looks in 14 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: my mind. Is executing better on defense? 15 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: O cho? Yeah? Now this is what I don't get. 16 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: The reports are that he. 17 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: Inquired about Trey Hendrickson from the Bengals. 18 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: What I don't get. 19 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: Who had michaeh that's four years younger than Trey, right, 20 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: But you say no to that. Now, if you signed, 21 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: if you signed Miles Garrett, what you got back You're 22 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: gonna have to give up more to get a player 23 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: like Miles Garrett than what you got. 24 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 2: For Michael Parsons. 25 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely something. Maybe maybe he wasn't thinking 26 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 3: because Jerry Jones did say they were better off defensively 27 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 3: with Michael Parson going. 28 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 2: You said that it was a lie, he told it. 29 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, you said when Kenny Clark came, it makes your 30 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 3: defense better. And you also said, well we were no 31 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 3: closer to winning Super Bowl with Michael Parsons, So what's 32 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 3: gonna be the difference when he's not here? M hm. 33 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 3: So all those things are now coming back to haunts 34 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 3: you because now your defense is thirty first in the league, 35 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 3: right above us. 36 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: But I always thought that would. 37 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: I think the thing is chose that you look at 38 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: because they didn't have another player opposite of Michael who 39 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: will see he. 40 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: Got Rashan Gary. 41 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: Now, so now he has somebody that can if you don't, 42 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: if you don't double Bichah, he's gonna get you. If 43 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: you don't double Michael, he gonna get your quarterback. He's 44 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: gonna pressure your quarterback. So now, right now, team's got 45 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: more concerned about Michah than they are Rashan Gary. Gary 46 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: is getting a lot of one on one and he's winning. 47 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: I think he's probably up there close to his total 48 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 1: for his career high. I think his career high is 49 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: like nine. He's gonna have double digit. I can see 50 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: a scenario he has thirteen fourteen sacks, and that's because 51 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: of the guy that's opposite of him. But I think 52 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,119 Speaker 1: a lot of this had to do with egos. I think, 53 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: you know, Jerry wanted to draw a line in the sand. 54 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: He didn't like the way the negotiation was going. He 55 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: felt he had a deal with Michael. When Michael shuk 56 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: his hand and X, Y and Z, he said, Michael 57 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: called the meeting. Michael said he wanted to meet with him, 58 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: he wanted to talk to him, and he thought that, 59 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: you know, he thought one thing, Michael thought another thing, 60 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: and from that point on, Jerry was done. Jared was 61 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: not gonna do And Jerry made it bundantly clear, if 62 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 1: you play in Dallas this year, you're going to play 63 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: under your current contract. No, there is no contract extension. 64 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: You're going to play with on your on your rookie deal. 65 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 3: Hey, and you understand that, especially when he's handled other 66 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 3: other contracts, waiting until the last minute to get him done, 67 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 3: making those players wait as well. And it doesn't You're 68 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 3: You're not special, You're not any more special than that. 69 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 3: You're not any more special than Zeke, you know, not 70 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 3: any more special than CD Lamb. So when he and 71 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 3: one thing about Jerry, he's one of the few owners 72 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: that you're not for the bully. No, you're not for 73 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 3: the you're not for the bully. Me I'm I'm I 74 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 3: am the program. 75 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think in that situation on jo Jerry is 76 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: a guy, you got to make him feel good. Yeah, Jered, 77 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: you know, I really want to be here X Y 78 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: and Z, so forth and so on. And like I said, 79 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: the number that he got, Jerry wasn't willing to go there, 80 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: but Jerry were at the time. I guess it was 81 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: gonna be a number bigger than what Micah, excuse me, 82 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: what Miles Garrett got. So it's gonna be something around there. 83 00:03:58,360 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: Now. 84 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: Was he gonna go in the blind and play forty 85 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: seven million? Hell no, when the highest when the highest 86 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: contract at that time for a defensive player was a 87 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: Nick Bosa at around thirty two thirty three million. And 88 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: you mean to tell me you're gonna have somebody go 89 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: thirteen fourteen more million per year than the highest paid 90 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: And y'all, no, absolutely not so, Jared felt he made 91 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: a very good, a very compelling offer that he was 92 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: willing to go. Make him the highest paid, give him 93 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: forty million dollars a year annually. And I don't know 94 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: what the guarantee was. But when that, when that fell through, 95 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: Jared was no longer interested in and and and dealing 96 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: with it. 97 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 3: He wasn't budgeted, he wasn't ecuse me, he was set. 98 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 2: This is what I offered. I'm not going a penny more. Yeah, 99 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 2: this is it. 100 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: And like you said, now, because everything that was going 101 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: wrong before, you know, oh you know, we didn't do 102 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: this when Michael was here, and Michael couldn't stop the 103 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: run and y'allah blah, y'all, y'all, it was a lot 104 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: of Micah. I ain't heard him mentioned Michael lately. You're 105 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: running through you. You can't. 106 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 3: You can't mention them. And and listen, Michael Parsons, whether 107 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 3: they were running through you or not. When he was there, 108 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 3: he was an impact player. He changed He can change 109 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 3: the trajectory of a game at any point. He get 110 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 3: any games at any point. He is a massive destructor 111 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 3: all four quarters. Now you don't have that, you don't 112 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 3: have that. 113 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: No, look that the liebackers aren't that good. Uh, your corners, 114 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: I mean, Bland is your best corner. You know, Diggs 115 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: is out, he's on our so you got backups in there. 116 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 2: Uh, I think Hooker is injured. They just that they don't. 117 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: I mean, they just don't have guys that can shut 118 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: the you know, turn the lights out of the place. 119 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: And that's what when Dallas was successful. When Dallas was 120 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,119 Speaker 1: when they had that, they had that at every level. 121 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: You know, they had a kid Norton, they had had 122 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: Darren Woodson, and they had a Time and they had 123 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: a Haley and they had those guys. 124 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 2: They don't have that now, Yeah, they don't have that. 125 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 3: They don't. 126 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: Offensively, they're they're they're mentally talent, They're they're inconsistent. 127 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 2: They're inconsistent. The Broncos have a really good defense. 128 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 4: They do. 129 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: The Broncos have a really good defense. 130 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: And if you are what you say you are defense offensively, 131 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: that should you should welcome that challenge. You should welcome 132 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: that challenge. I thought the Broncos played an unbelievable ball game. Look, 133 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: I knew the Broncos. I thought the Broncos would struggle 134 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: a little more defensively than what they struggled with the 135 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 1: Cowboys than what they did with the Cowboys offense. I 136 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 1: knew the Cowboys offense wasn't gonna be able to no, no, 137 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: because they're because they're they're not that good on that 138 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: side of the football, and they haven't been that good 139 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 1: on that side. 140 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 2: Of the football for the extended period of time. 141 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: And because of the way they're built, they're built to 142 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: play with a lead. If they don't go Look at 143 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: the Cowboys when they don't have a lead. Got those 144 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: small guys, O yoe. Small guys don't held up well 145 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: against the run. 146 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, they undersized, they underside. But one thing they can do, 147 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 3: they can run. Boy, they can run sideline and sideline. 148 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 3: But when you come down hill at. 149 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: Them, I ain't I ain't trying to go outside. I'm 150 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: trying to go right down here. I'm trying to go 151 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: right down ninety five. I don't want nothing. I don't 152 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: want nothing. I don't want nothing with three letters with 153 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: three numbers in it, because that's the loot. I'm going 154 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: north and south and and and that's that's what That's 155 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: what the Cowboys are like. 156 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 2: And they lack size, they like they lack a hair. Race. 157 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 2: You gotta have a you gotta have you need one. 158 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 2: Oh Joe, you got you got to have a dog. 159 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 2: You need one. 160 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 3: For any team to succeed. I know we talk about 161 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 3: we talk about skill set. I know we always talk 162 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 3: about high character guys. You know, and all this these 163 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 3: hey all that. You need three dogs at the three 164 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 3: key positions that can change the game. You need a 165 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 3: dog that's a quarterback. You need a dog that on 166 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 3: that front foor somewhere either detack of the defensive end. 167 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 3: And you need a dog at receiver. Sometimes you get lucky, 168 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 3: you get your dog at running back. 169 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 4: Mm hmm. 170 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 3: But the three those are the three most important places 171 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 3: where you need a guy. You need that guy, the 172 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 3: guy that can change defense and the dynamic of your offense. Man, 173 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 3: stop playing. Oh you know he's not that good. He's 174 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 3: a high character guy. Yeah, okay, get your man right. 175 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting to see what the Broncos does 176 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: moving forward, because PS two is gonna be down for it. 177 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: That look like he might be placed on R because 178 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: he can shut down. He he is sensational, he's amazing, 179 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: and he allow he allowed Coop and those other guys 180 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: to eat Bonito Allen those guys Straan. Uh, they do 181 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: a great job. Hey, we got a very special guest 182 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: joining us right now. 183 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 3: You see what's up up like you rob something. 184 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 4: No, I'm just comfortable, man. 185 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: Okay, welcome to the show. Ramp Safety Cam, Curl Cam. 186 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: How you doing man, I'm. 187 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 4: Doing good, and I appreciate you all for having. 188 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: Appreciate you coming on the bye week. You guys are 189 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: coming off the bye week. So what did cam do 190 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: in this bye week? 191 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 2: So what so? 192 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: So take us through your bye week. You had the 193 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: whole week off, so you got out of town boom. 194 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 4: No, I ain't even believe. I ain't gonna lie. I 195 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 4: stayed here. 196 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 5: I was tired, okay, because we did all that traveling 197 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 5: like Baltimore. 198 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 2: That whole week. 199 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, when we traveled to London and play like within 200 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 5: like that certain amount of time. So I was really 201 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 5: all right from all the traveling and we ain't get 202 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 5: I ain't get home till like Monday, two thirty in 203 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 5: the morning, damn. Like I slept all Monday Tuesday. I 204 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 5: went to the city a few days, you know what 205 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 5: I'm saying. But I just spent time with the family, 206 00:09:58,120 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 5: really just trying to let my body rest. 207 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 3: Okay, you ain't do nothing outside of that though, like 208 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 3: to get away, just to get away from the game 209 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 3: of football. 210 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 5: I mean yeah, like you know, I take the kids 211 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 5: to the park and stuff, like you know what I'm saying, 212 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 5: Like just a little little stuff. 213 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 4: I ain't do nothing crazy. 214 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: Crazy, Yeah, Like you guys are number one, the first, 215 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: your first red zone, defensive touchdowns allowed, thirty points allowed, 216 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: eighth and takeaways. What do you think the biggest reason 217 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: you guys are having such success on the defensive side 218 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: of the football. 219 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 5: I mean, I feel like the system we got in 220 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 5: the scheme we got, it's built around our players, and 221 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 5: what we were able to do is like it's built 222 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 5: for our skill set. And you know, we've been in 223 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 5: this systems our second you're going on in the system, 224 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 5: so we all comfortable with each other, especially in the secondary, 225 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 5: Like this is the first place, like the first time 226 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 5: i'd seen Leu's bring back a whole like secondary unit. 227 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, usually every year the 228 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 5: room changes, you know what I'm saying. But you know, 229 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 5: since we did that, that just helps us play even 230 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 5: faster because we more comfortable each other and you know know, 231 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 5: how each other play. 232 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and now that you are in your second year 233 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 3: other's defense, how comfortable are you? 234 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 2: You know? 235 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 5: I mean I'm real comfortable, Like I'm real comfortable with 236 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 5: how Shula cars game, and I'm real comfortable with with 237 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 5: all my teammates, you know what I'm saying. And I 238 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 5: just like flying around those guys like we have to 239 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,599 Speaker 5: make him plays, you know what I'm saying. You know, 240 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 5: trying to keep doing that. 241 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 3: Hey, does your coach, your defensive coordinator do does he 242 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 3: allow you the freedom to do things off script that 243 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 3: really really isn't part of X and those But because 244 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 3: you're the one out there on the field and playing 245 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 3: the game and you have a feel for stuff, can 246 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 3: you go off script and do stuff based on what 247 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 3: you've seen on film? 248 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, as long as you make the play, 249 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, ain't gonna be too mad. 250 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 5: But now they do emphasize on us not being robots 251 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 5: though you know what I'm saying, They don't want to 252 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 5: teach the football instances away from us, you know what 253 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 5: I'm saying. So he listens, he let's just play how 254 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 5: we play. You know what I'm saying. We're gonna always 255 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 5: go within the scheme, you know, in the play call. 256 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 5: But you know he lets us go out there and 257 00:11:59,040 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 5: fly around. 258 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: Okay, you're known for your physical style of play. How 259 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: did you get the how do you get the nickname? 260 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 2: Cam Bam? 261 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 4: Uh? I got that name? Like in high school it 262 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 4: was a I ain't gonna lie. 263 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 2: You know. 264 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 4: The females used to call me that. You know what 265 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 4: I'm saying. 266 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 5: Oh, but yeah, no, you know, you know I bring 267 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 5: that boom on the field too. 268 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. You know rhymes, you know, 269 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 4: but like, yeah, it's just it's just a little nickname. 270 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 3: Hey, let me let me I got I got a 271 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 3: question for you since they call you cam Bam and 272 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 3: you and you knowing for you know, coming down here 273 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 3: coming to the party. You you think you think you 274 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 3: would have been able to hit me if you were playing, 275 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 3: Like if I just happened to be in this area, 276 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 3: you think you would hit me? Yeah? Like, hey, hold 277 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 3: on you laughing? You see you think about, Hey, you're 278 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 3: a little thing. Man, I'm two twenty. What you talk 279 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 3: about then? 280 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 4: What you what you're waying? Back then? 281 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 3: Back then I was two thirty. 282 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 4: All right, all right, you got it? If you two 283 00:12:58,600 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 4: thirty then you got it. 284 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would have ran through you. But don't, man, 285 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 3: don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. 286 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 4: With you. 287 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: What was some of the factors what was so appealing 288 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: for you with signing with the Rams. 289 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 5: Well, honestly, like off the bat, just you know, Sean 290 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 5: y Vay, you know what I'm saying, just even before 291 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 5: I got here, just seeing him from Afar and you know, 292 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 5: hearing things about him and watching his interviews and stuff 293 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 5: like that's just off the bat, like a guy you 294 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 5: want to play football for. You know, It's just the 295 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 5: type of guy he is. And you know, I knew 296 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 5: it was a winning coachure here. You know, they just 297 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 5: won the Super Bowl not too long ago, you know 298 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 5: what I'm saying. You know, they always get into the playoffs, 299 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 5: you know, So it was just it felt like the 300 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 5: right fit. 301 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 302 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 5: It's a bunch of young, hungred guys on the on 303 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 5: the defensive side with some stuff to prove, and you know, 304 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 5: I felt like I fit right in. 305 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 1: You came in the league kind of like I came 306 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: in the league. I was self around draft pick. I 307 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: was one ninety two, your self around draft pick, and 308 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: I never felt. 309 00:13:59,200 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 2: Like I made it. 310 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: I feel like I had to go out there every 311 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:05,719 Speaker 1: single year and reprove myself that, like I gotta give 312 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: them one reason. And I always keet this mindset I 313 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: gotta get when I went to practice camp, I would 314 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:11,599 Speaker 1: I say, I gotta give him one reason. 315 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 4: To keep me. 316 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 2: Just one, man. You see that rock shop ran, man, 317 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 2: you see that catch that he made. You see how 318 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 2: he picked up that blip. Just one. 319 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: I needed one reason for him to say, yeah, we 320 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: gotta keep him another day. What was your mindset coming in? 321 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: You got a seventh round draft pick, but the commanders, 322 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: what was your mindset? Because you know, normally seventh round 323 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: picks don't camp bodies. They just they just hey, they 324 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: need somebody to fill out the roster. They really tried, 325 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: they really try to give it. No look, but you 326 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: got to see me because I'm gonna make you look no. 327 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 5: In fact, na my mindset. I mean I knew getting 328 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 5: drafted in the seventh round. Like I was just talking 329 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 5: to myself, like, you know, I gotta take everything to 330 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 5: the next level, you know what I'm saying, just to 331 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 5: try to make this team. You know, coming in because 332 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 5: I was the only rookie dB. They had picked up 333 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 5: the whole like draft process. You know, they ain't pick 334 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 5: no fraids up and nothing. So I was the only 335 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 5: rookie dB in the room. So like it's like I'm 336 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 5: going against vets. I'm competing against vets, you know what 337 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 5: I'm saying. 338 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 4: People already being in. So I just know how to 339 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 4: take everything to the next level. 340 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 5: And you know, all my vets there back then in 341 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 5: twenty twenty season, like they really brought me in, you 342 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, and showed me the way, and 343 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 5: I just sat back washing them and learned and you know, 344 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:19,359 Speaker 5: started making plays. 345 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, you look being in too different. Look Washington, LA. 346 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: How similar or how different are the defensive systems that 347 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: where you were in DC compared to what you are 348 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: in right now in LA. 349 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 4: I feel like it's a it's a difference. 350 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 5: I feel like in Washington it was more of like 351 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 5: you know, like a like a straightforward this is. 352 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 4: What we're doing. 353 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, We're not really we wasn't 354 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 5: really doing no disguising. Like you know, man, like you. 355 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 2: Just going out there. You ain't got no ski mask, 356 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 2: you ain't got nothing. 357 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 4: You ain't got no dark You're just going like that's 358 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 4: how there real is though, Like. 359 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 2: You know, like I know, Jack, We're gonna put your position. 360 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 4: You gotta make the play, you know. That's all that matters. 361 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 5: And I feel like this Rams defense, it's it's a 362 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 5: it's a way more complex defense, you know what I'm saying. 363 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 5: We run tons of different coverages, Like it's subages that 364 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 5: I'm I'm learning about this year. I didn't even know 365 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 5: it was coverage, you know what I'm saying. So it's 366 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 5: a real complex defense and it fits us because we 367 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 5: got real smart players on our defense, you know what 368 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 5: I'm saying, that can think on the fly, you know 369 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 5: what I'm saying, And we communicate very well, like this defense, 370 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 5: communication is key for sure. 371 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 372 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 3: And it's funny when you talk about defenses being very 373 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 3: complex and you're able to do more with the defense 374 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 3: when you had the right players with the right skill 375 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 3: set and can communicate. It brings me back to that 376 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 3: two thousand Ravens, that two thousand and early two thousand 377 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 3: Steelers defense. But KC, they used to run defenses that 378 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 3: wasn't even on film. They weren't on film, and people 379 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 3: were always out of position. But they were so good 380 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 3: with a great understanding of being able to communicate and 381 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 3: when the ball snaps, they'll fly back through exactly where 382 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 3: they're supposed to be at. But it was so confusing 383 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 3: for me as an offensive player. So the fact that 384 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 3: you guys are able to do that, to run complex 385 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 3: stuff that you really don't see on film. You really 386 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 3: don't know what's coming. And keep an offense thinking all 387 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 3: the time, especially at the snap and after the snap 388 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 3: of the ball, you're always having an advantage, always have 389 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 3: an advantage defensively for sure. 390 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: Man, Cam, I'm looking at you. Guys are schedules. You 391 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: got the Saints, Niners, Seahawks, Bucks, Panthers, Cars, Lions, Seahawks, Falcons, Cardinals. Damn, 392 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: y'all got a lot of birds up in there, the Seahawks, 393 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 1: the Cardinals, the Seahawks, the Falcons, the Cardinals. Y'all will 394 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 1: trying to put some of these birds out their misery. 395 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we're gonna do that for something. 396 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 5: Man. 397 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 4: That's the. 398 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 3: Speaking of man. What has it been like, man to 399 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 3: watch Pook and the cool Man and Davonte Adams Man, 400 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 3: Davonte still, I know, you know, we talk about some 401 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 3: of the best receivers in the game. You know, they 402 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 3: mentioned Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson, you know JSN and 403 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 3: some of those, those those younger guys. But to me, 404 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 3: Devonte Adams is still the best rock runner in the league. 405 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 5: Like with him, But it's crazy, man, just starting off 406 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 5: like a practice, just watching them every day at practice 407 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 5: and being able to go against those type of guys 408 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 5: every day, Like it makes this a lot better as 409 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 5: a defense because every every team you're not seeing that 410 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 5: every day every day. 411 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 4: So that's that's just making us better. 412 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 5: And then the ad Matthew Stafford in the mix with 413 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 5: those two, like it's crazy, but like it's just it's 414 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 5: amazing to see in practice with us. 415 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: And it's hard to like, why follow the quarterback eyes 416 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: and Matthew Stafford looking over here and he throwing the 417 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: ball over there? Throw the ball over here. You're like, coach, 418 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: why you go there? Because he was looking over that quarterback. 419 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 4: Guys he doing that to some practice too. It's not 420 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 4: just do it. 421 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: Too hey when we saw it on the tape because 422 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: in the game, you didn't know it because I was 423 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl when he threw When he did 424 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: that in the Super Bowl when he threw a he 425 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: was looking like this here and he threw the ball 426 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: and Cooper Cup ended up catching it. It was right 427 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: by because the linebacker was dead right if he looks 428 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: at if the linebacker is gonna pick it. 429 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 2: But because he was looking over here and. 430 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: He threw it, he's like, oh here in the throat, like, oh, 431 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: my goodnesses. 432 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 3: That right off his head. Hold. 433 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 2: That was nice. That's crazy. 434 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 4: We see that every day. Man, it's crazy. 435 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 3: To what And you know coach Yard still a receiver. 436 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 3: Coach hu yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was my coach 437 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 3: at Oregon State. 438 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 2: Really yeah. 439 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 4: Yard is a cool dude. 440 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 3: Man, my guy, Man, that's my guy. 441 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: Well, Cam, thanks for joining us tonight, man, best of luck, 442 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: continued success, stay healthy, and hey, you guys got a 443 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: nice little schedule coming up. But hey, you done got 444 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: your bye week, you get your second win. Now it's 445 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: time to hey, time to go finish the task. 446 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 4: Sir, already. I appreciate you all for having man, thanks 447 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 4: you for coming on. 448 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 2: Appreciate it. Enjoy the rest of the evening. 449 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 4: Man. 450 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 2: Oh yall, wow, michaeh. He just can't let it go. 451 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: Last night, he blasted how the Cowboys have treated Trayvon Diggs. 452 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: He told Joy Epstein of Yahoo's Sports. Honestly, I feel 453 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: like they f my dog over, you know what I mean. 454 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: He's coming off a catastrophic knee injury, and I just 455 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: think they did they did right by him. I don't 456 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: think that. I didn't think they did right by him. 457 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: He didn't participate in all camp. He's going out there 458 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: playing Week one and two, and I just think you 459 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: don't do that. I just don't think you do that 460 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: to a player like that, and the type of knee 461 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: injury that he had, they forced him out there. He 462 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: has no reps. Really, he's telling me he was in 463 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: warm up phase during the week one though, even with 464 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: the ramp up. I just feel like, just don't do that. 465 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: I just feel like they screwed him over. The organization 466 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: let him down, you know what I mean, if you 467 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: just don't do that to a player, and I think 468 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 1: it was mad wrong and I just pray for him. 469 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 4: Now. 470 00:20:54,880 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: You know, Michaeh and Trayvon are really really good friends. 471 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: He's echoing what trayvond relaid to him. 472 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 3: What he can't say itself. 473 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: What he can't say, I tell Michael Michael ain't here, Michael, 474 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: you'll say it. 475 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 3: I can see where Michael is coming from Austin coming 476 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 3: off of injury like that also, but you have to 477 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 3: think on the cowboys in well, if you're coming off 478 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 3: of injury, you know, why don't you why don't you 479 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 3: be here with us? Why don't you rehab with us? 480 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 3: So we can we can, Hey, we can watch you 481 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 3: and we can dictate how far. 482 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 2: Along you are. 483 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 3: But when you're not here, we don't know. 484 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't know. 485 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 3: So when you do come back, you know, but we 486 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 3: think you're ready because you're taking care of your business 487 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 3: away from the facility, you know, doing it your way 488 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 3: with your own doctors or whatever you may have it. 489 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,239 Speaker 3: So now we don't we don't, We don't know. So 490 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 3: when you come back here, we expecting you to be ready. Yes, 491 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,479 Speaker 3: So that's where that comes from. And putting him out 492 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 3: there if he's not ready, Now you come back and say, 493 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 3: oh you're not ready and use out there doing things. 494 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: Your wait and you weren't here. If you're here and 495 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: you're not ready, that's one thing. You're there and you're 496 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: not ready because you know we can we can update it. Okay, 497 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: the progress Jared gonna come as the trainers. How far 498 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: along is Trayvon? 499 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 2: Yes? 500 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 1: Will he be able to go week one? Do we 501 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: need to put him on the pump list? What do 502 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: we need to do? Well, you're telling us if you're 503 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: not here training, that you're on schedule, and so you 504 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: no longer need our training staff because you believe the 505 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: training that you have is gonna put you in a 506 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 1: position to be where you need to be. Right and 507 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: when they got that kind of money tied up in you, ah, 508 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: it's gonna be. 509 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough. It's tough, which is why they took 510 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 3: that five hundred thousand from me. Yes, well you don't 511 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 3: want to Okay, we know what. Let it. Let let 512 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 3: us recoup some of this, Let us get some of 513 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 3: this back. They can give you a better understanding on 514 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 3: how serious we are and how upset we are that 515 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 3: you're not taking the owners and getting yourself prepared for 516 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 3: the season upcoming season. Here in the faciit where we 517 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 3: can document and keep tabs on how far along you 518 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 3: have to go, so we know what to do, so 519 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 3: we know that on our end. 520 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: So I think the thing is o Joe is that 521 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: they put him out there. If I know he's not helped. 522 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: I put him out there. I'm gonna make it look bad. 523 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 1: So that way, when we release him, ain't nobody gonna 524 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: feel me. 525 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 2: Man. 526 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: You see how my man played. Yeah, listen, and he 527 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: had a bad injury. Yeah, I don't know if it's 528 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: the same because he towards a cl and then he 529 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: had another I don't know if it's the same ash. 530 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: Was it the same need that he towards a clo 531 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: wasn't a different knee? But in any case, you know, 532 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 1: he had two injuries, two knee injuries in the last 533 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: two years. That's how you asked him an awful lot, 534 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: Ojo asking an awful lot. And here's the thing, he's 535 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: predicated he's gonna take risk. You can take those risks 536 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 1: when you have a defensive line that can put pressure. 537 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: When you had Michael and you had d Law playing 538 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: at extremely high levels that was collapse in the pocket, 539 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: you could take those risks. Now he's still playing that 540 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: same way and they don't get that same pressure. So 541 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: guess what that means, big plays giving up? 542 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, it's. 543 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: Just it's it's it's tough. I see both sides. That's 544 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: the thing. Oh Joe, and that's what I tell you. Look, God, 545 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: I understand that you want to be away from because 546 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna beat o'yo. 547 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 2: I'm there all. 548 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: I'm there from when we get back in training camp. 549 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get really one week away, that's the bye week. 550 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: Other than that, I'm there all of September, October, November, December. Uh, hopefully, 551 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: if we're lucky cowboys hadn't been so fortunate all of January. 552 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: But I know I'm gonna be there for five months 553 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: and I know you don't want to be there in 554 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: the off season rehabit. You're there February, March, April. Guess 555 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: what ota start in April? Yeah, damn, I ain't even 556 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: get a chance to get a break, O yo. When 557 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: they got that kind of money invested in you, when 558 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 1: you got that kind of contract. I'm telling you, this 559 00:24:54,200 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: is the expectations that they have. And you know, there 560 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: you're saying that you're ready to go, because if you're 561 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: not there rehabit and you're coming off that serious injury, 562 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: you better be on your You bet you better that 563 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: thing better be yeah. Hey, you better be able to 564 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: do the Tussie roll with that knee and everything you 565 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: do Hey, all that. 566 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 2: God, they're gonna be looking. It's like, bro, why why 567 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 2: why weren't you? Yeah? 568 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 3: I know one thing, even though he's not ready, he 569 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 3: probably won't be a Dallas cowboy. 570 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 2: No, I don't see scenario in which he will be 571 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 2: next year. 572 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 3: Listen, Trayvon, boy, you can see this boy, we come 573 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 3: on that. Come on down to Cincinnati. Boy, you're gonna 574 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 3: love it. 575 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: Don't go down to Cincinnati. They ain't gonna put no pressure. 576 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: They're gonna they're worse than think about it. They worse 577 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: than the cowboys, Trayvon. And you see what happened in 578 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: the secondary in Dallas and Cincinnati. 579 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 2: Worse than them. 580 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 3: Hey, listen, come on down there, come on. We got 581 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 3: new DJ Turner, Cam Taylor Break. Were gonna add you 582 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 3: to the pot. The more, the better, the more to marry, 583 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 3: help us improve. We'll rank thirty second right now. In defense, 584 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 3: you can come in. We need an impact player. Huh. 585 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 3: We got Trey Hendrickson on that edge. 586 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 2: He won't be there next year. 587 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 3: That's huh. 588 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 2: He won't be there next year. 589 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 3: Okay, let me, let me, let me pitch my let 590 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 3: me pitch my stuff to Trayvon. 591 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: We don't lie to him and get get him there. 592 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,479 Speaker 1: And the people that you say gonna be there are 593 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 1: not gonna be there. 594 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 3: Right, well, we need an impact player and he can 595 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 3: come back. You chill, rest, get your knee together, come 596 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 3: back next season. Boom. By that time you're gonna be 597 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 3: We're gonna get the Trayvon Diggs. Oh and number seven 598 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 3: is available. 599 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: And you ever call the store and they tell you 600 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: they got something. When you get up there, they ain't 601 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: got it. Oh, I thought we had it. That's why 602 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: I called. Cause you think I would have brought my 603 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: ass up here if you didn't have it. I came 604 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: up here because you told me you had it. You 605 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: could have told me that on the phone that you. 606 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 2: Didn't have it. And by the way, you know you 607 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 2: didn't have it. 608 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 3: Now you done got me up here for no god 609 00:26:59,080 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 3: dam you got me that. 610 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 2: You got me up here. No, you're not sorry. 611 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: You could have took your ass right behind, gotten from 612 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 1: behind this counter and come back just that. 613 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 3: Hey, but they'll get slicker with you too. Now. Well, well, 614 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 3: since you're here, you you mind if I show you 615 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 3: something else? 616 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 2: No sure. 617 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 1: For me to matter, I walk mass and I walk 618 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 1: up out of here. No, it's like I go, if 619 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 1: I go looking for something, on, do you have the 620 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: brown loafers? 621 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 2: They come back. 622 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: We didn't have the brown, but we got black and 623 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: ox blood. I didn't ask for either one of those. 624 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 3: I ask for brown. 625 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, well no, if I'd have wanted black or ox blood, 626 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: guess what I said, You have a black loafer or 627 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: ox blood loafer. 628 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 2: That's what I would have asked for that. 629 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 3: Hold on, you just slicked just you just slicked through 630 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 3: that word and there that that sounded like a big 631 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 3: word and that sounded like a color. 632 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 2: Well ox blood, Yeah, what what's that? 633 00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 3: What's that? And you and you get you you getting 634 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 3: real fancy, you getting real fancy. 635 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:04,479 Speaker 2: Ox blood? 636 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 3: You know what that means? What color that is? What 637 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 3: part of the fan? 638 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 2: Reddish? 639 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 3: Reddish? 640 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 641 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, why ain't just say red then? 642 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: Because it's not red. It's like a. 643 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 3: Doctor you there's no need to be fast. 644 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: Okay, how about this here we don't have we do 645 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,239 Speaker 1: have a kanyac or we have a black How about that? 646 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 2: Is that better? Kanya? 647 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 3: Okay? So we talked about shoes, We talk about alcohol, 648 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 3: We talked. 649 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: About shoes, the color shoes, colors, shoes coming kanyak okay, 650 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: color dress shoes? Okay, I got you. I got you. 651 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: Why don't you Why don't you. 652 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 3: Just say burgundy? 653 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah you? 654 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 3: Are you real? A? Were you real? Are you faster 655 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 3: at night? 656 00:28:56,040 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 2: Okay? What kanyac or burg my bad Burgundy? There you go. 657 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: But I just looked and I get it, My good fer. 658 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: You should be one of the happiest men on earth. Yeah, uh, 659 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: you're somewhere. I mean, if you didn't feel wanted or 660 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: appreciated in Dallas, they gave up one of their better 661 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: players and two first round picks for you, and they 662 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: paid you a boatload of money. So I'm not even 663 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: worried about Dallas anymore. Yeah, it'd have been great to 664 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: finish my career there, but it didn't happen. For whatever reason, 665 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: it didn't happen. It didn't happen. Man, Dallas is the 666 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: last thing on my mind. 667 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, but listen, it might be the last thing on 668 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 3: his mind. But when reporters asked him certain questions, then 669 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 3: he just he's gonna answer it. 670 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: I'll just say, you know what, I'm not there anymore. 671 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 2: That's not me. I still have great friends in that 672 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 2: locker room. 673 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: I wish them nothing but the best unless they played it, 674 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: unless they played the Packers. But other than that, I 675 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: don't really care to talk about the Cowboys anymore. Yeah, 676 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: you know, we know, we know. First of all, they 677 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: don't need to ask Jerry about Michael either. We know 678 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: how Jerry feels about Michael. We know how Michael feels 679 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: about Jerry and the Cowboys. It's understood. See what's understood, 680 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: don't need to be discussed. I mean, I wouldn't. There 681 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: are certain situations you would you Why would you ask 682 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: somebody when you already know the answer, right, It's not 683 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: just because now you won't clicks. Now you know how 684 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: that man feel about the Cowboys. You know how Jerry 685 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: feels about Michael. Yeah, and I'm not I'm not even 686 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: I'm not e wasted. I'm not wasting my time even 687 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: even having a discussion about that. But it's a situation where, 688 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: you know, Diggs, maybe he felt that he was healed. 689 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: Maybe he felt that he was he was healed well enough, 690 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: O yo. Instead of having to beat in Dallas, he 691 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: could rehab wherever else he was. I don't know where. 692 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if Dallas is is home. I don't 693 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: know where its home. Is, but maybe he had felt 694 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: he had progressed to the point that he no longer 695 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: needed to be up under their watch. Right, But when 696 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: you come back and they give you a physical and 697 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: the knee is not where it needs to be, they're 698 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: going to feel some type of way because you could 699 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: they their feeling is that you could have been here 700 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: and this could have progressed in a positive manner because 701 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, or Joe, we're paying 702 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: your money, we gonna get you on the field. 703 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 2: Now, I'm just saying, I'm just saying. 704 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying, I understand all that other stuff that you're saying, 705 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: but we trying to get you on the field. Yep, 706 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: We're so we got the Steelers re and not Aaron 707 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: Rodgers with his former wide receiver Pittsburgh are signing with 708 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: vetteran wide receivers mb Is Valdere Scantling, Aaron's former teammate 709 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: with the Packers. Scantling only thirty one years of age. 710 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: He began his professional career in Green Bay, playing on. 711 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 2: The Pack twenty one. 712 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: His twenty twenty season, uh he had six hundred and 713 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: ninety receiving yard sixth receiving touchdowns, which are both career highs. 714 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: He also said that he also I think he won 715 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: two super Bowls. He won two Super Bowls with Mahomes. 716 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, I think he went too super 717 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: Bowl with Mahomes. 718 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 2: Oh Joe, you like you like this pick up? 719 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 3: I mean it's cool, it's cool. 720 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 2: It's a player. 721 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 3: It's a player that's familiar with Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers 722 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 3: also familiar with him. I think he's gonna be fine. 723 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 3: Got another speister, you had more speed, You already got 724 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 3: Calvin Austin, you got DK. Now you ad mvs who 725 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 3: also can run and is a deep threat. He can, 726 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 3: he can, you can stress the defense. So we're gonna 727 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 3: see how he's used, what positions they put him in. 728 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 3: You know, they put him into to make the plays 729 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 3: and use his skill set to his strengths in helping 730 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 3: that offense. I think I think he's gonna be all right. 731 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. I think he was there. 732 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: He was He was San Francisco earlier this year and 733 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: got released from there. I think he was in Buffalo 734 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: last year. So hopefully he finds a home that he 735 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: can stick. Like I said, he's only thirty one years 736 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: of ages. Kind of bounced around the last couple of years, 737 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: but hopefully he can get there and stay for. 738 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 2: To the end of the season. 739 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: Oh Joe Kendrick Perkins appeared on out the Mud podcast. 740 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: He said, I don't f with Joah. You know why 741 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: I don't f with jaw The reason I'm so mad 742 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: at you. ESPN spent millions of dollars to do an 743 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: all access on John Memphis. 744 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 2: They did that for joh Bro. 745 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: I was like the one that was praising joh We 746 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: annointing you as a chosen one, and you f it up. 747 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: Guess what, Not only did you make you look bad, 748 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: you made me look bad. They recognize you because of 749 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: me speaking highly of you. It ain't no coincidence that 750 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: you went from having three games on ESPN to fifty two. 751 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: Job responded, you know the reason I don't for my 752 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: noted riders. You're the reason for my notoriety. Come on, 753 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: don you showing a wound f with you out of 754 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: with your can hey? 755 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,919 Speaker 3: Well listen, they went from three games and being being 756 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 3: televised because of Job because of his play on the 757 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 3: basketball court. You know, he's very energetic, he's very animated, 758 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 3: plays a buvet he's exciting. He's an exciting player. That 759 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 3: is why people have gravitated in ESPN even want or 760 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 3: to you know, go and do whatever whatever it is 761 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 3: and spend the millions, you know, to go see him. 762 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 3: John's made some mistakes, some mistakes, yes, some mistakes that 763 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 3: you learned from. He deserves to be in the conversation 764 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 3: when he comes to talk about the better basketball players 765 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 3: in the NBA, then Steph Curry's, the Lebron James, you know, 766 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 3: the Wimby's and Kevin Durants, James Hardens. He belongs in 767 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 3: the conversation with some of the better players in the 768 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 3: NBA despite him being as young as he is. And listen, 769 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 3: we all make mistakes on I'm sure, I'm sure at 770 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 3: this point he's learned from him. He's not going to 771 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 3: get too many more opportunities to make mistakes of that 772 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 3: magnitude and and and kind of staining the NBA shield. 773 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 3: But I mean, he's on he's on the right path. 774 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 3: He's on the path. He's a dynamic player. And one 775 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,919 Speaker 3: of the reasons why he says, this is the reason 776 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 3: what you're doing right now is why don't why don't 777 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 3: mess with you? What you right now, why are you 778 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 3: even conversing? 779 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: And you know that's that's I don't I don't think 780 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: to be fair. Perk is not the reason for John's notarioty. 781 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: We have to accept responsibility and accountability for our own actions. 782 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 1: Perk having to talk about it on ESPN, as we 783 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: all had to do at one point in time. We 784 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 1: were appointed, we were disappointed when it initially happened, and 785 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: so we like, you know what, hey, he a young 786 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 1: I mean, John's twenty one, twenty two, twenty three years 787 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: of age, put himself in a bad spot. Let's hope 788 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 1: he learns and grow from it. And the next thing, 789 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: you know, guess what, he's back on ig and he 790 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: got he got this dick out again. And I'm like, 791 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: come on, y'all, you just you just went there after 792 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: you were suspended to begin with, and you went there 793 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: and you talked to Adam Silver, and you know, you 794 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: gave this man your word. I'm assuming that you gave 795 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 1: him your word that you would not find yourself in 796 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: this position again. And so that's what and and we 797 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: all had to talk about it. And I think the 798 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: thing is what we try not to do is like, 799 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: you know what you're not your worst mistake. 800 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 3: M H. 801 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 1: A lot of times that's that's we get labeled. We're 802 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 1: never our best actions, We're just our worst mistake. And 803 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: so I think, you know, Look, I don't. I don't 804 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: want to speak for Perk. You know, I know Perk obviously, 805 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: I know Perk. Perk started out, he was on he 806 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 1: was on Fox, he was undisputed with skipping out, and 807 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 1: then he went to ESPN and and and and and 808 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: and carved out a niche for himself. Great, but and 809 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: and and maybe maybe is a sitution wah where with 810 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: John said, Look, I disagree with what Johwadi says. 811 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 2: Perk is the reason why for his notoriety. Maybe maybe now. 812 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: Like when when we talk about stuff Ojoe, once we 813 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: talk about something on here, I'm not going on Twitter 814 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: to try to to try to highlight it again. Yeah, 815 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,399 Speaker 1: I'm done with it. Once I talk about it here, 816 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: we talk about the show, I'm done with it. I'm 817 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: not having a conversation with anybody else about that situation. 818 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 2: I'm done with it. 819 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: I've already said what I would, I've already said what 820 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: I felt I needed to say on that situation. Uh, 821 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 1: but it's tough. It's really tough, Ojo. In this business. 822 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,800 Speaker 1: If you have relationships and somebody that you have a 823 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: relationship with, they mess up. 824 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 2: Because now people are sitting there, liked, is here what 825 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 2: you're gonna say? You bought it? Messed up? 826 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,879 Speaker 1: You ain't say nothing, yea waiting Yeah, I mean, it's 827 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: like it's like that's what they're waiting. They wait, They're 828 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: waiting on to hear you say something. So for the 829 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 1: most part, I just try to like, if I have 830 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 1: a relationship or I speak to someone, I don't really 831 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 1: say anything about it. 832 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,280 Speaker 2: Now, little Lebron situation. 833 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 1: Everybody knows how I feel about Lebron so far, the 834 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 1: so and so, they automatically assume that I'm kicking it. 835 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 2: With Lebron up in brent Wood, and any time he 836 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 2: had an event, I'm there. I'm not. 837 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 1: People just choose to overlook what I call broad out 838 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: or I criticize something that he's done. They overlook that, oh, 839 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 1: the clutch checks must not be coming no more. The 840 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: director posit ain't gonna hit no more. 841 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 4: Bro. No. 842 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 1: I just if he's right, he's right. If he's wrong, 843 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 1: he's wrong. It's simply it ain't no more than that clutch. 844 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,800 Speaker 1: Don't send me no checks. I was I was employed 845 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 1: by I was employed by Fox and undisputed I was 846 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: employed by ESPN. 847 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 2: Now have we Oh yo, we have our own thing. 848 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 2: That's it, nothing more, nothing less. 849 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: Y'all try to make it out to be that because 850 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 1: if I criticize, broad is the checks. If I don't criticize, 851 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 1: Oh see, now you talked about this, you talked about that. No, 852 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,800 Speaker 1: it's what that's what in this space. That's what you 853 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 1: have to do. It's like, oh, jo, if I'm a fireman, 854 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 1: oh you in that building to put that fire. You 855 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: ain't going this building to put that fire. 856 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 3: What kind of bull job is that? 857 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 2: I'm a fireman? So when you when you do we do. 858 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 1: We have to talk about certain things we just do 859 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 1: and you want me to give my honest opinion, my 860 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 1: honest take on certain things. It's not about a like 861 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,439 Speaker 1: or dislike because I don't know the guys well enough 862 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 1: to have an opinion one way or another. All I'm 863 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: talking about is the guys are on the court, the 864 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 1: basketball player. Now, when we dealt with y'all, we had 865 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,320 Speaker 1: to talk about the gun and the club and the 866 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 1: ig stuff like that. We had to talk about that 867 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: because that wasn't basketball related. But for the most part, 868 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 1: where we critique and analyze, we keep it on the 869 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 1: field unless they do something off the field and we 870 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 1: have to talk about it. But trust me, I've never 871 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: gone to a producer, be it at ESPN B. Yeah, 872 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 1: AT's say oh, oh, I want to talk about this. 873 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,439 Speaker 1: We talk about it. We talk about it. If we don't, 874 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: we don't. I'm good either way. That way, I don't 875 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: really get involved in the topics. I talk about anything. 876 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:26,320 Speaker 1: I can talk about it on this because I followed 877 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 1: I followed football close enough, I followed basketball close enough. 878 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 1: I follow the things that where I feel we're gonna 879 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 1: talk about oh Joe, close enough that I could have 880 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: but an intelligent, honest conversation about it without making it personal. Right, 881 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 1: Oh you did this. I never I never called for 882 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: a video of Russ and his bloopers. Y'all get mad 883 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 1: at me talking about what it was. No, it was 884 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 1: Russ hit the top of the backboard. It was Russ 885 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 1: the Arabauty. All we did was all I did was. 886 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 2: Was talk about it. 887 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 1: Oh if that's what I did, Just like when he 888 00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:59,959 Speaker 1: got the trip of doubles, when we was talking about 889 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,359 Speaker 1: was getting a triple double and we were highlighting him, 890 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: nobody had a problem. So what you want us to 891 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: do when he's not playing well, or he's not and 892 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 1: he's turning the ball over? Should we not talk about it? 893 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:11,799 Speaker 4: Right? 894 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 3: That's how it works. 895 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 1: When Tom Brady played good, I had no problem saying 896 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 1: Tom Brady played good. But when Tom played bad, it 897 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 1: was I had to say he played bad. When Peyton 898 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 1: Manning played bad, When Aaron Rodgers played bad, when Patrick Mahomes, 899 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 1: when Tony Romo, you just do it now, I understand 900 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: when you look at it like, oh you said this, 901 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: but you ain't say this about the black guy. 902 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 2: You said it? Really, dude? Is that where we are 903 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,959 Speaker 2: right down? That's what we're doing. I look at the play. 904 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 1: I don'ld say, oh that black guy threw a touchdown, 905 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: Oh the white guy caught the touch. 906 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,240 Speaker 2: Probably, like, bro, what are you doing? 907 00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 3: I mean, listen to those two. They got to get it. 908 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 3: They gotta get it, get it fixed. Maybe maybe maybe 909 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,840 Speaker 3: they won't. But obviously if they don't fix it, I 910 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 3: think maybe the takes on the takes as far as 911 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,839 Speaker 3: you know, Kendrick Perkins, Perkins, when it comes to talking 912 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 3: about John Moran, you have to be fair, you know, 913 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 3: and that's fair, uh ninety eight percent of the time 914 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 3: when you do talk about Jaw, his play is gonna do, 915 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,800 Speaker 3: is gonna speak volumes. It's gonna speak volumes. In the 916 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 3: whole notoriety comment. Jaw was gonna be job regardless, no matter, 917 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,320 Speaker 3: no matter re win, no matter what NBA team he 918 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 3: was playing for. He could have been down there in Shanghai. 919 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 3: He was gonna make ESPN in Shanghai. ESPN was gonna 920 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 3: travel to Shanghai to go feature and show everything he 921 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 3: had been doing because he is box office. He's one 922 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 3: of those type of players that puts butts in the seats. 923 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 3: That's just who he is based on his skill set, 924 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,480 Speaker 3: his makeup, his DNA, that's just who he is. So 925 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 3: I mean, no one is responsible for that outside of 926 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 3: the INDIVI himself. 927 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but you know know theariety is infamous is 928 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 1: that you're known for things that you would like not to. 929 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 2: Be known for. Y'all did that. 930 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,439 Speaker 1: DeAndre Aiden is trying to stay motivated on the court 931 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 1: and revealed that several of his teammates have made it 932 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 1: a habit to troll him off the court as motivational tactics. 933 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,840 Speaker 1: They all have their own little things to get my 934 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,800 Speaker 1: head all mixed up. Austin Reeves is my guy, Luca 935 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 1: is my guy, but my wings and my forwards. Yeah, 936 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 1: they be trying to get me ticked off before these 937 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 1: games just to get me rolling. I'm starting to see 938 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 1: it as a trend because I don't get a break 939 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,839 Speaker 1: until we're on the court that it's all seriousness. I'm like, Oh, 940 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 1: this is the thing y'all want me to do. Y'all 941 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 1: want me to get your on age, y'all want me 942 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 1: to be fired up. 943 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 4: I like it. 944 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 1: Dudes really care on Sunday night, the big mentality twenty 945 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 1: two points and grab fifteen boards. So maybe it's work 946 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,080 Speaker 1: they working to night because I think they lose in 947 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 1: new Portland right now. 948 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 3: Listen the funny thing about it. Listen, he's been a 949 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 3: part of the locker room for a very long time. 950 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 3: Anything that happens to you on or off the court, 951 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,959 Speaker 3: you know the jokes are coming. The jokes are gonna 952 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 3: fly always. And then this, whether it be a motivating, 953 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,279 Speaker 3: motivating tactic or not, they're going to make fun of 954 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 3: any situations that you have as long as it was 955 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 3: nothing that was harmful. Oh, them jokes w gonna fly you. 956 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 3: You've been in the locker rooms now still to this day, 957 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 3: certain things, certain jokes still fly that that resonate, and 958 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 3: then stuff happens to you that's gonna stay with you forever. 959 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 3: You know, and and your teammates, man, they gonna make 960 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,439 Speaker 3: fun of it all the goddamn time. 961 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 2: Oh Joe, what happened? Can you explain this to me? 962 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 2: What happened? 963 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 1: How does a guy making one hundred plus million dollars 964 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 1: need motivating? 965 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,080 Speaker 3: I mean, hey, hey, well it's different now, you know 966 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 3: that this NBA nine. Sometimes you get that kind of 967 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 3: money and you relax and you sit down. There are 968 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 3: very few that make make a hundred million and still 969 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 3: play the game like they ain't got a dollar to 970 00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 3: their name. They are very few. Again, I'm gonna say 971 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 3: it again. You've seen it before in football. Now, I 972 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 3: can't really make a test to it when it comes 973 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 3: to basketball, but you can because that's something that you 974 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 3: love and are passionate about. But think about how many 975 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,320 Speaker 3: players in the NFL that you've seen get paid and 976 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 3: all of a sudden they disappeared. Now they out there 977 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 3: they on the roster, but the play, which is the 978 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,879 Speaker 3: reason why they got the money they got. For some reason, 979 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,320 Speaker 3: it just disappears. The hungry, the hunger of the drive 980 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 3: they want. 981 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 2: To eventually to wear off. 982 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 1: I can motivate you by fear, I can motivate you 983 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 1: by money, but the only thing that's sustainable is self motivation. 984 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 1: So eventually, ojo, I can make up crack all the 985 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 1: jokes I want. Yeah, I can pay you all the 986 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 1: money that I want. I can put fear that I'm 987 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,839 Speaker 1: gonna really. Obviously, in basketball, the money guaranteed. So once 988 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,800 Speaker 1: you give him, once he signs his name on the 989 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,840 Speaker 1: contract and you sign your name on the contract, it 990 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean anything because you can't scare him anymore. 991 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,319 Speaker 1: But if a guy that's not self motivated, ain't nothing 992 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:12,640 Speaker 1: you can do. 993 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,480 Speaker 3: But also too, when you're in that kind of environment, 994 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,920 Speaker 3: it's only fifteen guys, you're playing as the Lakers, one 995 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 3: of the best franchises of all time. You understand the 996 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 3: legacy that they have, They've won multiple championships. You you 997 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 3: don't want to let those guys down on everybody's watching you. Now, 998 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,719 Speaker 3: that's all the motivation you need. The money at the 999 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 3: motivation At this point, you're playing for the Los Angeles Lakers. 1000 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:40,760 Speaker 4: What happened? 1001 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 1: There's fifteen guys in every locker room and he wasn't 1002 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,680 Speaker 1: motivated in Phoenix. He wasn't motivated in Portland. What makes 1003 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 1: you think he's gonna come and be motivated in LA? 1004 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,560 Speaker 3: I just told you where's he playing. He's playing in 1005 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 3: LA It's different than playing in Portland. It's different than 1006 00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 3: playing in Phoenix. 1007 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 1: Tell me the difference between the polar bear that's an 1008 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 1: Antarctica and when that's in the zoo in San Diego. 1009 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,839 Speaker 1: Other than his environment, he's still a polar bear. 1010 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 4: I like that. 1011 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:08,239 Speaker 3: That's a good one. 1012 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 2: I like that. 1013 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,760 Speaker 1: So I understand what the Lakers brand is. I understand 1014 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 1: what it represents. But at the end of the day, 1015 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,480 Speaker 1: that just happened to be the same individual that the 1016 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,240 Speaker 1: other two places that was in a better brand. 1017 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,000 Speaker 2: He hasn't changed. Nothing about him is changed. 1018 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 3: How's this game so far? I know it's early in 1019 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,120 Speaker 3: the season. How's he been playing? Good? 1020 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:30,319 Speaker 2: Huh? 1021 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 3: This is the Laker needed a big man? Is he 1022 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,960 Speaker 3: the answer? That was the problem? Last year? It was 1023 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,240 Speaker 3: too small? Is he the answer? 1024 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:40,319 Speaker 2: What's the question? 1025 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 3: Is he the big man that the Laker needed. Is 1026 00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:48,880 Speaker 3: he the answer? 1027 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,719 Speaker 1: Laker big man are normally motivated. That's why they're known 1028 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 1: for the big Man mic and in Minneapolis to will 1029 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 1: to kareem to show. 1030 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:12,520 Speaker 2: Okay, I don't get it. Some things ain't for me. 1031 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 1: It's not for me to understand everything. I don't understand 1032 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,239 Speaker 1: because I think the thing is that we work. So 1033 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 1: you work so hard to get into a position, O Joe, 1034 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,640 Speaker 1: and then now you get there because think about you 1035 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 1: had to be I mean, maybe you're so immensely talented 1036 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 1: that seven foot seven foot. 1037 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 2: I mean, they're probably only they're probably maybe one. 1038 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,200 Speaker 1: Hundred people in the world of eight billion people that's 1039 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:34,240 Speaker 1: seven foot tall and taller. 1040 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 3: So you know eight and seven feet tall too. 1041 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's damn yeah. 1042 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,040 Speaker 1: So I think the thing is for me, ojo because 1043 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 1: I had to work so hard. I'm a very motivated 1044 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 1: I'm a very self driven person. 1045 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:58,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're different mentally, I am. Everybody's not wired that way. 1046 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,960 Speaker 2: No, you're right, that's what That's what makes it. That's 1047 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 2: why I couldn't coach everybody. 1048 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,799 Speaker 1: Oh you're a coach is dreamed all my employers. Man, 1049 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,799 Speaker 1: you're you're a dream I'm gonna be prepared, I'm gonna 1050 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 1: do my work. I'm gonna go home. 1051 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:12,560 Speaker 2: That's it. That's all I want to do. 1052 00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:14,080 Speaker 3: That's why you need to coach. 1053 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,920 Speaker 1: We'll get the based on because you got Shaye and 1054 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,960 Speaker 1: Luca and you got Steph. That's three guards right there. Now, 1055 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,360 Speaker 1: one of those guys gonna I mean, Luca normally leads, 1056 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,840 Speaker 1: uh but but now they just. 1057 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:38,919 Speaker 2: Go front court and back court. So so he would 1058 00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,120 Speaker 2: have to get selected. And then you got. 1059 00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 1: Man so ant Man, Shay, Luca, Steph. I don't think 1060 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 1: he's more popular than any of those guys. So it's 1061 00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,560 Speaker 1: gonna have to be. It's gonna have to be at 1062 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:58,480 Speaker 1: the coach's discretion. Marlene's five oh yo, when with the 1063 00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,399 Speaker 1: last time you guys been to a rodeo. I ain't 1064 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 1: never been to a rodeos. That's a good question unless 1065 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:06,320 Speaker 1: they talk about rodeo. 1066 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,480 Speaker 3: Matter of fact, the last time I went to the 1067 00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,480 Speaker 3: rodeo was down here in d Luke, Georgia, when I 1068 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:16,520 Speaker 3: rolled the PBR bull Dejah Blue. Yeah, that was my 1069 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 3: last time at the rodeo, and I told I told 1070 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 3: the PBR that obviously I would love to make riding 1071 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,040 Speaker 3: bulls a hobby that I would take. I would take 1072 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,360 Speaker 3: that professional actually serious. And they told me, you know, 1073 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 3: we're gonna look into it after football season is over. 1074 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,319 Speaker 3: So I might get back in the bull right now. 1075 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:35,360 Speaker 2: You shouldn't. 1076 00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 1: James Rabella, Oh yeah, O Jo, I U the Laker, 1077 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,360 Speaker 1: arride with you. We can get some good steaks, some cigars. 1078 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:51,520 Speaker 1: Fifty seven hundred, No, it's fifty nine hundred. Tim's being said, Oh, Joe, 1079 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,279 Speaker 1: can you guys wish my wife Natasha? 1080 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 4: What is it? 1081 00:50:56,200 --> 00:51:02,160 Speaker 1: Natassia, Nata, Natassia, happy birthday. We've been together eleven years. 1082 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,440 Speaker 1: She was in an accident a few weeks back, so 1083 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,600 Speaker 1: I'm grateful to be celebrating this one with her. Absolutely, Natassia, 1084 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:15,520 Speaker 1: Happy birthday. You, hubby, guy's been together eleven years. He 1085 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,120 Speaker 1: wanted to let you know he wanted you to celebrate 1086 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:22,680 Speaker 1: this day. That you know that it's special, but he 1087 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,160 Speaker 1: wanted to take a special time to celebrate because he 1088 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 1: realized just how fortunate it is to have you in 1089 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:31,480 Speaker 1: his life and mentioned that you were in an accident. 1090 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:35,160 Speaker 1: Hopefully everything's okay and you guys get to spend some 1091 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:36,799 Speaker 1: extra time loving on each other. 1092 00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,840 Speaker 2: Tell thank you, brother. So much Brouh. I greatly appreciate 1093 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,440 Speaker 2: you following us and oh you. 1094 00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,880 Speaker 1: And I are very very very very grateful to have 1095 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,880 Speaker 1: you as a subscriber and a member that follows us routinely. 1096 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:50,880 Speaker 1: But we want to wish you and your wife with 1097 00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 1: her happy birthday. He'll up soon. That concludes this episode 1098 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,200 Speaker 1: of Nightcap. We want to thank you for joining us us. 1099 00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:04,040 Speaker 1: The Chiefs use a strong three straight scoring possessions in 1100 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 1: the second half to break. 1101 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 2: The game open. 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