1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio, 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here coming 3 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: up on this football Friday. Of course we're going to 4 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: talk football. We'll look back on Thursday night football. We'll 5 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: talk about, you know, just same old, same old from 6 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: George Pickens, who's the guy getting all the heat for 7 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: his performance last night in Detroit. We're also going to 8 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: have a conversation about somebody else who's getting the heat, 9 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: and that's somebody is JJ McCarthy. What exactly is the 10 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: plan for him? In Minnesota. We are going to have 11 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: another edition of Quinn's Wins. This time it's the Conference 12 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: Championship weekend edition. We've also got an appeal to be 13 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: heard because I feel like I've got a gripe and 14 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: find out whether or not my fine will stay and 15 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: if there's been more added on to a plus, we're 16 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: going to have our picks against the spread we've got 17 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: in case you missed it, and we've got the leftovers. 18 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 2: It's all yours. 19 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: Coming up next here, Two Pros and a Cup of 20 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: Joe on a Football Friday, Fox Sports Radio. 21 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 3: Hey, thanks for listening to the two Pros and a 22 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 3: Cup of Joe podcast with Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox, and myself, 23 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 3: LeVar Arrington. 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They know that it's 54 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: come to Jesus' time here on this football Friday. They 55 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: know that's going down later on in the show, and 56 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: so they're going to have to answer for it. But 57 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: you know, it's great about things that you've seen in 58 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: the past. If you've seen it in the past one time, 59 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: eh whatever. Listen, you know, everybody has an off day, 60 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: everybody has an off game. Everybody has some sort of 61 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: an issue that pops up now, problem whatsoever. And then 62 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Brady Quinn, you see George Pickens 63 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: have a game like that last night, and you go, yep. 64 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 2: He still got it. 65 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: There's still the threat, there's still the possibility that George 66 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: Pickens could have a moment or a couple of moments 67 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: in a couple of games from last night like he 68 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: did that he's had in the past, and now the 69 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: whole conversation about we're going to have him long term 70 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: and he's going to be around here long term, We're 71 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: going to build around this guy now seems like a 72 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: let's just wait and see, because he's shown the ability 73 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: to have games like that in moments to where you're like, 74 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: we just don't know if we can trust this guy 75 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: moving forward. 76 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 5: It's one of the reasons why he's super talented, but 77 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 5: you just can't rely on him. And that's the reality, 78 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 5: and it kind of questioned last year, like there's games, 79 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 5: there's plays where you're like, does he love football? 80 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 6: Does he really like doing this? 81 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 5: You have questions about that and even you know, sometimes 82 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 5: just seeing his I don't know if it's a lack 83 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 5: of awareness, lack of efforts. He's super talented, but you 84 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 5: can't say he's the best player on that team by 85 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 5: any way, shape or forum, where there's just too much 86 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 5: of an inconsistency, inconsistency in his effort. Yeah, and what 87 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 5: he does when he goes out there. 88 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: And I think there's been this notion that when the 89 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: Steelers really butcher that one boy, they couldn't make that 90 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: work with George Pickens. And it's like, all right, whose 91 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: track record do you trust the most when it comes 92 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: to knowing when to turn the page on a wide 93 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: receiver or turn the page the Pittsburgh Steelers or George 94 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: Pickens in the spot. And Pittsburgh has done this over 95 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: and over and over again. 96 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 2: And it's not to say because there was a report that. 97 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: Came out on ESPN it was Todd Archer and Jeremy 98 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: Fowlery yesterday who said that they've had to punish him 99 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: multiple times the Dallas Cowboys have for little infractions, for 100 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 1: little things that have popped up late to the team bus, 101 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: late to meetings. There was the story that him and 102 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: CD Lamb were out when they were playing in Vegas 103 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: on Monday night against the Raiders, that him and CD 104 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: Lamb were out at Red Rocks Casino or whatever the 105 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: hell the place is called, and that CD Lamb was 106 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: throwing up in a trash can outside the building at 107 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: seven point thirty in the morning. They're just stuff like 108 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: that that pops up and it always has with him 109 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: to where he had that fight to end the game 110 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: against the Browns last year. Randomly when he was with Pittsburgh, 111 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: they're just throwing down right next to the fans in 112 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: the back of the end zone. It's like this whole 113 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: notion that because Dallas went on a little bit of 114 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: a heater and he showed his skill set that all 115 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: of a sudden, well, we're just going to forget about 116 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: all that stuff. And it's on the Steelers who screwed 117 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: that up and didn't make it work. No, Like, I 118 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: think they knew what they were doing, because they knew 119 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: this was always going to be a possibility, so they 120 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: just trusted and went with DK Metcalf and said we'll 121 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: roll the dice with that. 122 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 5: I think the worst part, too, is a lot of 123 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 5: these instances where you see him getting in trouble. He's 124 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 5: with Ceedee Lamb. You know, it seems to me he's 125 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 5: like one of those guys where maybe he's bringing something 126 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 5: down with them, which is terrible for this team and 127 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 5: what it could be. So if there's one thing Jerry's 128 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 5: done a good job of, he's never going to turn 129 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 5: away guys who are talented. That being said, he's also 130 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 5: never really won to worry about or be concerned about 131 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 5: the culture that he has in his locker room or 132 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 5: what he builds amongst the players. 133 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:34,799 Speaker 6: In that locker room. 134 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 5: I mean, you think about when they had their glory days, 135 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,679 Speaker 5: their most success I mean, the stuff that was going 136 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 5: on during that period of time, the White. 137 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 6: House everything else. 138 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 5: Oh god, well, that's arguably one of the greatest errors, 139 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 5: if not the greatest, of Dallas Cowboys football. So when 140 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 5: you take into consideration that was going on back then 141 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 5: and they still there's elements that Jerry's probably like, yeah, 142 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 5: you know, talent's gonna you know, outweigh whatever other you know, whatever, 143 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 5: the things that come along with that, Like eventually talent 144 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 5: will win will win football games because of it. I 145 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 5: don't know, I think you're gonna have both. Like I 146 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 5: don't ever hear as many issues within Detroit Lyons with 147 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 5: those players quite as much. It seems like Dan Campbell's 148 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 5: got a much better idea of, you know, what his 149 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 5: players are doing. 150 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 6: I just I don't know. 151 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 5: I think this is also important because look, Jerry's never again, 152 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 5: He's never gonna turn away guys who are talented, but 153 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 5: there's also been cases where those guys have impacted or 154 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 5: affected that locker room and how the Dallas Cowboys are playing. 155 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 3: On the field of times. 156 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys, a guy who 157 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: gets a lot of the heat and has gotten a 158 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: lot of the heat over the past several years there 159 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: in Dallas, spoke about the disappointing performance by George Pickens 160 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: last night. 161 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 7: When you're the typle player that he is, I'll be 162 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 7: the first to say it's hard to do that weekend 163 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 7: and we out, But I think George can. I know 164 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 7: George believes he can, and I think he would just 165 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 7: say that this game wasn't up to a standard, and 166 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 7: I'm sure he'll loan it and I know he'll be better. 167 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: Last night was one of the first times I've seen, 168 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: especially this year, Dak Prescott really get on guys like 169 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: Jake Ferguson's fumble. 170 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 3: He was getting on him. 171 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 2: George Pickens. You could tell him. 172 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: Visibly frustrated, which he never does that, visibly frustrated about 173 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: the route that he ran. That result, I think we 174 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,239 Speaker 1: might have been a third down late, But you know, Kirk. 175 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 6: Kurbstreet DJ Reid knocked away. 176 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: Kirk Kurbstreet took time away from calling Brian Schottenheimer shaddy 177 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: for fifteen hundred times last night during the broadcast to 178 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: point that out. It did, like I look at Dak 179 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 1: Prescott and they go say whatever you want about that guy. 180 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: He is the calming, stabilizing presence in the circus, Like 181 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: he's the guy inside the circus tent there in Dallas 182 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: and has been for a decade now that at least 183 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: she could depend on him, Like, whatever you want to 184 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: say about it, he's not a big game quarterback and 185 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: all the criticisms that have come along with him. That 186 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: guy's earned his money having to deal with the cast 187 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,719 Speaker 1: of characters and the owner that he deals with over 188 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: the past ten years. 189 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 6: He's their MVP, he's their best player. 190 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 5: He's kept that thing afloat and kept them competitive and 191 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 5: to your point, like he has taken a lot of 192 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 5: flak for people on the outside. Who I mean again, 193 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 5: and he probably knows even deeper how many of these 194 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 5: issues there are actually going on behind the scenes. So 195 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 5: a credit to him for his level of play and 196 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 5: having to deal with all the stuff he's had to 197 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 5: deal with throughout the course of his career, because it's 198 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 5: just it feels like it's always something with the Dallas Cowboys, 199 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 5: and in this case, it's going to ultimately impact their 200 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 5: ability to be a playoff team. 201 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 6: And I think, you know, over the past few weeks, 202 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 6: like they're good enough. 203 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 5: The defense has made the strides they've needed to offensively speaking, though, 204 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 5: it's just you've got to have someone outside of Ceedee 205 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 5: Lamb you can rely on, and I don't know. 206 00:09:58,640 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 6: That George Pickens is that guy. 207 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 5: And it's unfortunate because again he's super, super super talented. 208 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt. 209 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: Speaking of talented, the Detroit Lions are loaded, and sometimes 210 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: I forget watching them because it's been kind of an 211 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: up and down year for them a little bit. Sometimes 212 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: I forget watching them. How talented that team is, Like 213 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: for all the talk with the Dan Campbell gets and 214 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: he deserves all the credit he gets for Ben Johnson, 215 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: all the love he got for Detroit is loaded with dudes, 216 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: whether it's Jamier Gibbs, what like just Ama Ross, Saint 217 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: Brown on a bum ankle, Willie Like you look up 218 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: and down that lineup and it's hard to find other 219 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: places in the league that have as much talent like 220 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: blue chip guys like the Detroit Lions do. 221 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 2: And Jamier Gibbs put on a show last night that 222 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:50,839 Speaker 2: was fun. 223 00:10:51,400 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 3: They built it the right way up sticks. It's all 224 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 3: I can say. It's all I could give you. But 225 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. Pickens did have his opportunity. Lamb 226 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 3: went down. He had his opportunity, and it just you know, 227 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 3: but they did put up offensive they did put up 228 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 3: some some points last night. It just I don't know, man, 229 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 3: they sliced and diced their defense up. I mean, I 230 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 3: don't know. It's it's interesting because Dak is playing some 231 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 3: some really good football, like really good football. I mean, 232 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 3: but you know, he's under duress. He I mean, he 233 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,719 Speaker 3: was under so much pressure, like they were pressure in 234 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 3: the hell out of him. And and to me, I 235 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 3: feel like for for Dallas, and I know, I know 236 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 3: Williams ran for you know, Javonte got to sixty seven 237 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 3: yards rushing. But I just don't think that they have 238 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 3: a balanced attack. I really don't. And you're right outside, 239 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 3: I feel like Pickens. Pickens has been playing better in 240 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 3: my estimation, better than Cedee Lamb. But I think the 241 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 3: reason why Pickens plays so well, and you were able 242 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 3: to see it is because of Ceedee Lamb being out there, 243 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 3: and so when he left the game, you know, it 244 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 3: was his opportunity for it to be his show and 245 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 3: his show alone, and it wasn't. It wasn't what took place. 246 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 3: But I don't know, man, you know, Dallas, I just 247 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 3: are they snake bitten? Like I feel like there's a 248 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 3: couple of teams, like I always say Washington is a 249 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 3: snake bitten team for some strange reason, there are certain 250 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 3: teams they're just snake bitten teams. I just wonder it's 251 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 3: Dallas a snake bitten team because they had what they 252 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 3: needed from their quarterback in terms of the way he performed. 253 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 3: I mean, he got sacked a lot. But I don't know. 254 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 3: I don't think their defense played well enough. I think 255 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 3: the offense did what it needed to do. They score points. 256 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 3: I mean, they got it what, they got it down 257 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 3: to eight point game at one point in time. It 258 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 3: just they couldn't stop. They couldn't stop Detroit from answering. 259 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: It's almost like Dan Campbell saw Maddie Refluse across the 260 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: field and was like, I remember him, Oh, it'll be 261 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: easy work. Oh I remember him. I remember that guy. 262 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: He was here for a while, we saw him a while. Yeah, 263 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: we'll be all right here, we'll be okay. 264 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 265 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 1: And they just couldn't get a stop, couldn't get a 266 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 1: stop at all. But here's the one thing I do 267 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: know that it's a football. 268 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 8: Friday, and Friday, and I slept. 269 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 3: I slept in. I slept in, I slept in. Come on, 270 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 3: I slept in. I don't know how it happens, happened, 271 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 3: but it happens. But it happened, but it happens. I 272 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 3: will sleep well, sleep Street, I will sleep. Let's be sleep. 273 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 3: Let's be sleep. Let's be sleep. Let's be sleep. 274 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, shut you again. 275 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 3: Shot. Friday night is a football Friday. Come on, stay 276 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 3: football Friday. Rock them, suck them out it frime. 277 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 2: You can feel it. It is a football Friday. 278 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 3: Here on. 279 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 2: Two pros and a couple of jokes. 280 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: So we are gonna have the usuals coming up later on, 281 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: and we're gonna have a little something extra added into 282 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: our two of the program. 283 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 2: We've got another edition of in case you missed it. 284 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: We've got the Call Conference Championship Weekend edition of Quinn's Wins. 285 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: We've also got our picks against the spread in the NFL. 286 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: We've got the leftovers, and we've got very important appeals hearing, 287 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: all right, So we are going to hear an appeal 288 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: from me here on this show to try and get 289 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: out of a fine that was assessed earlier in the 290 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: week and hour two, all of that is yours here. 291 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 2: I'll shoot ten dollars. Let me tell you something. 292 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: It goes a long way in knoxic goo, all right, 293 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna try and hold onto every every cent 294 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: I can. Coming up next here though, on the show, 295 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: we are going to tell you, and before we do that, 296 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna tell you about Sesame Street because Sesame Street 297 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: has help raise all of us and now it's our turn. 298 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: Donate this holiday season at sesame dot org because the 299 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: world needs Sesame and Sesame needs you. If you're thinking 300 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: to yourself, God, it sounds kind of messy in there, 301 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: don't worry about it. 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You're not impressed by Jamiir Gibbs. 346 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 3: No, Jamiir Gibbs is very impressive. He is very impressive. 347 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 3: I mean he I got another special back. 348 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:29,479 Speaker 1: I got another staff for you if you want it 349 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: all right here at Detroit the Detroit status. The Detroit 350 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: Lions have won fifteen straight games following a loss, tied 351 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 1: for the longest street and a streaking any far. 352 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 6: How's that stabs? 353 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 3: Nothing wrong with pipe and smoke it? Oh wow. 354 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 2: By the way, Jamiir Gibbs went to Alabama. 355 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh, Georgia. But yeah, what a what an 356 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 3: amazing segue. 357 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: Well, I mean it's appropriate considering Alabama has got a 358 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: head coach in Kaylen de Bor. There's been some whispers 359 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: out there, some rumblings that maybe maybe he's the guy 360 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: that Penn State is after. And so Kaylen de Bor 361 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: spoke yesterday to the media about how he feels about 362 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: Tuscaloosa and if there's any interest that he has potentially 363 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: in Penn State. 364 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 10: We are extremely happy at Alabama, love the challenge, love 365 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 10: the grind, love this place. And there's never been any link. 366 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 10: There's never been any conversation, there's never been any interest 367 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 10: either way, and so I'm glad we can put that 368 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 10: to bed right now. 369 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 2: So the two to Pat Craft swing in a Miss. 370 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 3: Gohique. You're experts. 371 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 5: I mean, at this point, I don't know that Penn 372 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 5: State is going to have another option other than Terry Smith. 373 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 5: I think Brian Dables still out there, so he's a 374 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 5: candidate obviously, But of all the name sames we threw 375 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 5: out there, it seems like everyone either went somewhere else, 376 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 5: signed then extension or you know, they're not looking to 377 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 5: hire John Gruden, I guess, but I would I would 378 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 5: say this, this could not have gone how Penn State 379 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 5: had thought it, and I think if they are being 380 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 5: honest with themselves, they might have miscalculated the decision in general, 381 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 5: especially based on how the team played down the stretch, 382 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 5: because I thought they did start to play some better 383 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 5: football and the schedule got easier too, like there were 384 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 5: going to be wins for them at the end of 385 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 5: the season, you know, from that standpoint, and who knows. 386 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 5: I mean, there were three and three when they fired 387 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 5: James Franklin. You know it's nine and three gonna be 388 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 5: good enough to get in. No, but it's not a 389 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 5: bad season. And you know, you might say, I don't 390 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 5: know that they would have, you know, won the last six. 391 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 5: But again, I think James Franklin's a good football coach. 392 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 5: And the way this is all gone if the entire 393 00:19:56,040 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 5: reason that James Franklin was fired was because he couldn't 394 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 5: get over the hump of winning some of those big 395 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 5: games and they thought they'd get a jump on that. 396 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 5: Whoever that next head coach is, you'd be lying if 397 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 5: you said this thing hasn't failed miserably because I don't 398 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 5: know that they've gotten their first, second, third, four, fifth, 399 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 5: sixth choice step being said, it doesn't mean that they're 400 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 5: not gonna get a good coach or it's not gonna 401 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 5: work out. We see that sometimes how it happens. Pete 402 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 5: Carroll at SC for example, was an example of that. 403 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 5: But this is just this couldn't have gone how Penstead 404 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 5: has had. 405 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 3: Hoped maybe for some which is a said, it's said 406 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 3: commentary to think that some people work very diligently for 407 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 3: their own agendas to sabotage and do things that are 408 00:20:53,480 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 3: you know, not positive and not productive to our state 409 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:04,959 Speaker 3: community and in particular to our Penn State football team. 410 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 3: It hasn't gone the way that that it was intended 411 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,479 Speaker 3: to go. I mean, I think that's pretty clear. It's 412 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 3: pretty obvious, and it's it's gotten a little bit uglier, 413 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 3: you know, well maybe even a lot uglier, maybe a 414 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 3: whole bunch uglier as of as of late in terms 415 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 3: of how things are being looked at, how things are 416 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 3: you know, being being released, certain information that shouldn't have 417 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 3: been released, and certain things that are going on that 418 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 3: are taking place. It's a it's a shorting of the stock, 419 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 3: so to speak. And there are certain people that are 420 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 3: actually in prominent positions at the school and and you know, 421 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 3: and their their prominent names in the school's history that 422 00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 3: that are taking the light and having the opportunity and 423 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 3: the ability to look at our program be where it's 424 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 3: at so that what you can swoop in and save 425 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 3: the day the way you want to save the day, 426 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 3: so that you can restore things that were, you know, 427 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 3: in your estimation, unjustly unfairly lost due to circumstances. That's 428 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 3: that's you know, there's a lot of politicking. There's a 429 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 3: lot of things going on behind the scenes that what 430 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 3: are you talking about? Yeah, I don't know, I know 431 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 3: what I'm talking about. 432 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 6: I mean, if I if I throw out paterno. 433 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 3: Oh, go ahead, throw out paternal gut. Well that's you're 434 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 3: throwing it out there. Well of course it's the name. 435 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 3: But but go ahead, gohead go. I'm gonna guess jay, 436 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 3: I mean, go ahead, keep going. What else would you 437 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 3: be going? 438 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 5: Okay, I you know, there's there's obviously a tough relationship 439 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 5: there based on how things have gone, you know, since 440 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 5: everything that was exposed to what fifteen years ago? 441 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 3: What have you yeah, long time, and the. 442 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 5: Relationship has had it with the family has been kind 443 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 5: of interesting, and I think they're obviously Joe Pitturna had 444 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 5: the greatest run of any coach of Penn State, and 445 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 5: you know, sometimes that tends to be forgotten. 446 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 6: So some people like to turn back the page and 447 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 6: look at that. 448 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, uh, when when your only campaign is 449 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 3: to do that Q is to try and and clear 450 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 3: your your dad's name and his legacy, and that's like 451 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 3: become your lifelong journey, and you bring people along with that, 452 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 3: you create a lot of dissension. He could have been 453 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 3: somebody that was some a force that that was for good. 454 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 3: But you know, he's not like even that song you 455 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 3: guys sent me yesterday, like that guy that's connected to 456 00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 3: that post. He's he's an antagonist. He's an antagonist, and 457 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 3: he's been working to clear Joe's name for years and 458 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,719 Speaker 3: now he's taken on the duty and the responsibility of 459 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,479 Speaker 3: trying to clear Jerry Sandusky's name in all of this. 460 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 3: So again, it's a large conversation. Yes, it's a super 461 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 3: large conversation, and in a lot of ways, for me, 462 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 3: it's an embarrassing conversation because what happened happened, and when 463 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 3: you look at what morals are supposed to be a 464 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 3: part of how people conduct themselves and live their lives 465 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 3: and how things are handled. To think that you, for 466 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 3: this long have been a thorn in the side of 467 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 3: a community that your dad was a major, major part 468 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 3: of building the culture and foundational pieces that you know, 469 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 3: may penn state what it is. It's a joke. It's 470 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 3: a joke. And to act as though what happened didn't happen, 471 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 3: or that there's no culpability whatsoever that should have been 472 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 3: on Joe's name based upon what took place is its 473 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 3: poor commentary and the things that have been done and said. 474 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 3: It's almost as like, are you trying to erase what 475 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 3: took place? Are you trying to remove your dad's name 476 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 3: from what took place? It happened during his watch, and 477 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 3: that's the reality of it. And it should have been 478 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 3: dead and gone. This program should have been able and 479 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 3: allowed to move on. But because of the type of 480 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 3: community that it is, in him being a part of 481 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 3: the school board and him having you know, one particular 482 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 3: person in you know Lebrono, Anthony Lebrono, being connected to him, 483 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 3: and being a money gud. They've they've been on their 484 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 3: crusade to to clear Joe and to me, the way 485 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 3: they've been able to do it is methodically doing things 486 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 3: that undermine what goes on with leadership after school, and 487 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 3: it has led to this, It has led to it 488 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 3: being a hard coaching staff or coaching coaching search because 489 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 3: he's basically basically things have been leaked out, have been 490 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 3: put out there that have been damaging to what it 491 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 3: is that is taking place with the coaching search, and 492 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 3: it's just led to decisions. I know, it sounds like 493 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 3: I'm and that's why I haven't wanted to talk about it, 494 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 3: because it sounds like I'm just I'm speaking on things 495 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 3: that the listening audience isn't privy to and maybe you 496 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 3: got I mean, you guys probably don't know either. 497 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: But well, it's pertinent to the story because nobody can 498 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: figure out what's going on because clearly this wasn't the plan. 499 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: Like the latest report from ESPN says that now Matt 500 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: Campbell's going to be the guy that they are going 501 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: to try and pursue from Iowa State. 502 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 3: Who's which. 503 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 5: Great I'll just I'll just I'll give you my two 504 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 5: cents of what I've experienced and then some of what 505 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 5: I've heard. Someone described the situation as messy, and I 506 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 5: asked them to elaborate, and they went as far as 507 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 5: to mention that there is not everyone's not on the 508 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 5: same page. There is some forces kind of working against 509 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 5: each other. There's not a unified front. That's correct, and 510 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 5: that oftentimes happens when you don't get the first candidate. 511 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 5: Kurt Signetti was the first target. They thought they could 512 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 5: get him. Didn't work out. Signetti stays, and now it 513 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 5: turns to you know, maybe Matt Rule or whoever else 514 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 5: you want to throw into the conversation after that, and 515 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 5: the hard part becomes the familiarity for Rule with the 516 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 5: entire place, and situation may have been such that he said, 517 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 5: I know there's forces working against the administration, like you 518 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 5: had just discuss, Like I know that place too well, 519 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 5: to the point where it's not as clear and simple 520 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,719 Speaker 5: of a decision. You know, it's gonna be harder than 521 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 5: I think to build that thing back up because there's 522 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 5: some people who might be working against me. 523 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, So he passes. 524 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 5: And there's some others that have said I'd rather go 525 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 5: elsewhere yes, so I do know from I don't know. 526 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 6: And that's and here's the thing is, I know you're who. 527 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 3: Wants to walk into that, like what coaches want to 528 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 3: walk into a situation where you know, the undermining of 529 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 3: what's taking place is from one of the most powerful 530 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 3: names in the history of the school. And and and 531 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 3: and that's the conclusion. 532 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 5: Why would I call and look and look at the difference, 533 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 5: Look at the difference, for example, between PennState and LSU, right, 534 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 5: both state schools, and the difference, I'd sit there and says, 535 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 5: as much as you want to say, well, the governor 536 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 5: is getting involved in Louisiana and this looks like it 537 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 5: could be messy, I don't know. It looks like the 538 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 5: whole entire state's pretty unified and try to figure this 539 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 5: out and trying to find the guy that they believe 540 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 5: is going to Now whether Lane Kiffin is the guy 541 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 5: or not kind of just doesn't matter. Like they got 542 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 5: the guy that that was on their list. I mean 543 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 5: the entire state, the entire university, every alum, every donor, 544 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 5: They're all unified and trying to figure that out. And 545 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 5: this is a this is a school that and program 546 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 5: that's won multiple national championships as the start of a new millennium. 547 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 5: So you know, there's one contrasting example. And so so 548 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 5: the word I heard was kind of messy. And then 549 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 5: to your point of what's happened is there are times 550 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 5: where you get people who try to preserve the legacy. 551 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 6: That was left behind. 552 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 5: And who's is it? 553 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 9: Is? 554 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 6: It? Is it uh Dickerson? 555 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 5: Or who who's the running by the Hall of Fame 556 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 5: running back that doesn't want any of his records to 557 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 5: be broken? 558 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 6: It's uh is there? 559 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 5: It's it's kind of like there's people who feel that way, 560 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 5: whether like I don't want anyone to I'm in here 561 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 5: and be better than what I was or what my 562 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 5: dad was, and and they want that because that's part of. 563 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 6: Their legacy, right or that is their legacy. 564 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 3: You know, there's people who it's almost if we're if 565 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 3: we're too good, if we win a national title, if 566 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 3: we if we do well, then it's like you can 567 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 3: actually definitively put put that issue to bed. As long 568 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 3: as we teeter on the edge of being an elite 569 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 3: program and don't cross over into being one, you can 570 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 3: still have the conversation and some way, somehow it's still 571 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 3: relevant and and so to me, it's it's strange, man, 572 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 3: It's it's really really strange that someone would actually be 573 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 3: so dedicated to creating so much confusion and being an 574 00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 3: issue to the to the community for this long over 575 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 3: what took place, and continue to make it an issue 576 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 3: that people have to relive within our community. It sucks, 577 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 3: it doesn't feel right. I don't subscribe to it. But 578 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 3: to tie it all together, the reason why it becomes 579 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 3: even more relevant to the scenario is that Terry Smith 580 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 3: has done an amazing job of supporting our program, of 581 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 3: supporting the young men that were left to try to 582 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 3: figure this thing out without James Franklin being the coach, 583 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 3: and he should have a legitimate opportunity to be the 584 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 3: head coach, the next head coach of Penn State. But 585 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 3: the way things have happened behind the scenes, and knowing 586 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 3: what it is that like what a j. Paterno is doing, 587 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 3: and being a part of the board of trustees and 588 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 3: having a voice and doing things and having access to 589 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 3: hearing certain things that are are pieces of information that 590 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 3: could be hurtful to what we're doing in our cause 591 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 3: and our purpose. It comes back to the idea of 592 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 3: Now you have a head coach who I don't know 593 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 3: if you guys saw that he wore the four oh nine, 594 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 3: the Joe four oh nine on his jacket during the games, 595 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 3: and then the whole campaign of making him the head 596 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 3: coach and the reasoning behind them going the direction they 597 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 3: went in was based around Joe. Now there's a lot 598 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 3: of there's a lot of respect that should be given 599 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 3: to what Joe has accomplished and what he represents. And 600 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 3: there's no doubt about it. You know, a lot of 601 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 3: guys have come out and said it. You know, Oj 602 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 3: McDuffie was the first one to come out and start 603 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 3: saying what it represents, our values and all those different things, 604 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 3: and he's right. You know, a lot of other you know, 605 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 3: players have been upset and said that it should be 606 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 3: Terry and and you know what, maybe they're right. But 607 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 3: I think what happened here is once again, we have 608 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:13,959 Speaker 3: become such a community that is rooted in reactionary situations, 609 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 3: like we've been forced to have to react to things 610 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 3: that have happened, and so that's how we are. We 611 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 3: rally to one another. We're going to rally around Terry 612 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 3: because Terry's one of us he played for Penn State. 613 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 3: He's one of us, so people are going to rally 614 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 3: around him. And now it takes on if you, if 615 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 3: you're smart and you're you're pushing your agenda, you're gonna 616 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 3: sprinkle and you're gonna feed, and you're gonna see this 617 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 3: situation once again, not about the situation being for Terry 618 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 3: Smith to get the head coaching job, but your all 619 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 3: terror motive of using Terry Smith to push the agenda 620 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 3: forward of what you really wanted to get done, which 621 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 3: is you're trying to clear Joe's name. 622 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: You know what I think about now that I didn't 623 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: realize at the time what he was actually saying, now 624 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: that all of this stuff is start to come out. 625 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 1: Matt Ruhle's statement when he was first asked about the opening, 626 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 1: and he was, you know, love Penn State, loved the program, 627 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: met my wife there, have so much respect for Pat Craft. 628 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 1: It was almost like, listen, I love everything about it. 629 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: I love pet but but there's other issues. It was 630 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 1: almost like he was he was telling you that the 631 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: issue and he was telling you and at that moment, listen, 632 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with that place and the 633 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: guy who's who's making the higher and all. He was 634 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: almost like he was letting people know without letting him 635 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: know there's a problem there. And the fact that he 636 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 1: said no and stayed at Nebraska I think probably should 637 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: have been a sign that there was that there was 638 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 1: other stuff going on at the moment. 639 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 3: And and that's you know, for me, I don't I 640 00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 3: don't like I know what's going on with the process. 641 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 3: I know what's taking place. I've chose to stay away 642 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,240 Speaker 3: from the conversation. I've I've chose to not disclose because 643 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 3: it is a lot of it is privy information, so 644 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 3: I can't just jump on the radio and talk about it. 645 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 3: And that's a dilemma for me being a radio host. 646 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 3: I get it, but it's just not what I can do. 647 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 3: I just know this. It ultimately comes back to this 648 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 3: one singular agenda. There are money people tied to the 649 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 3: Paterno name and J Paterno is it has been trying 650 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 3: to manipulate him and his little his crony Lobrono, have 651 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 3: been constantly through the years. This is not a now problem. 652 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,720 Speaker 3: That's the thing that maybe people that don't pay attention 653 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 3: to Penn State every day are not aware of. This 654 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 3: is not a now problem because we had a botched 655 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:57,359 Speaker 3: coaching search. That's not This has been a problem ongoing 656 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 3: ever since his statf you has been removed, ever since 657 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 3: the way he's spoken of has been tarnished. It's been 658 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 3: a thing because his family is such the paternal family 659 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 3: is such a prominent figure in the history of the school. 660 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 3: And that's why it is like Jay Paterno was at 661 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 3: the you know, basically at the center of politicking to 662 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 3: get James Franklin out in the first place. He didn't 663 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:32,399 Speaker 3: want James Franklin there. So it's like nothing is going 664 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:37,240 Speaker 3: to be I often wonder what is it exactly does 665 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,320 Speaker 3: he want to happen so he can leave us alone, 666 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 3: Like I just wish Jay Paterno and Lebrono could go 667 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 3: somewhere and never come back to the Penn State community. 668 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,720 Speaker 3: Like for good or for bad. We have to find 669 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 3: a new head coach. And to think that you would 670 00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 3: be okay shortening the stock of our credibility, of the 671 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 3: stability of what it could be to come work, the 672 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,280 Speaker 3: prestige that could be connected that your dad helped build, 673 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 3: that you would actually be at the precipice of being 674 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 3: the reason why we're being talked about the way we're 675 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 3: being talked about, and things are falling apart. The way 676 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 3: that they're falling apart, it's it's crazy. Like if you 677 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 3: go back, you could see little things like if you 678 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 3: go look at the Ohio State game, look at what 679 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 3: sideline he's on. If you go back to the Oregon game, 680 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 3: look look at where Jay was during the game. You're 681 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 3: in Phil Knight's box at the Penn State game. We 682 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 3: just went to Adidas. You know, you're you're in support 683 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 3: with Oregon in the white Out game and you're a Paterno. 684 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,879 Speaker 3: You know, the Ohio State game, you're on Ohio State 685 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:57,720 Speaker 3: sideline with shoes that are replica shoes of Joe Paterno's shoes. 686 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 3: You have your pants cuffed like your dad on Ohio 687 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,879 Speaker 3: State sideline. If you look at the little things, the posturing, 688 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 3: the agitating, the things that he has done, he has 689 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 3: facilitated confusion, and that's what it's been and that's what 690 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 3: it's continued to be. And now he's getting what he wants. 691 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 3: So good for you, Jay, Good for the Paterno family 692 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 3: if that's what you're really looking to do in order 693 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 3: to restore Joe's name, I still don't think it's ever 694 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 3: going to happen. But here you go. Here we are, 695 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 3: the stock is short it and here's your opportunity. So 696 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 3: let's see what it is you're going to you know 697 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 3: you're going to do. And it's sad because you're making 698 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 3: Terry upon in the situation and you're putting him in 699 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 3: a situation where he has to almost be like the 700 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 3: remember the Titans coach and win a national title for 701 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 3: it to be legitimized. 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It ended. 726 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 11: For the first time in nearly nineteen years, Lebron James 727 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 11: did not record double digits. 728 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:07,359 Speaker 2: That's right. 729 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 11: Last night in the Lakers win over the Raptors, Lebron 730 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,839 Speaker 11: scored eight points. He shot four of seventeen from the field. 731 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 11: That is one and ninety seven straight games for Lebron 732 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 11: with double digits. The streak comes to an end. However, 733 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,399 Speaker 11: you got to give him credit because the Lakers had 734 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,800 Speaker 11: the ball in the closing seconds. Lebron had the ball, 735 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 11: he could have put up a shot to get to 736 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,879 Speaker 11: double digits and said he passed it off to Ruy 737 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 11: Hachimura in the corner. Ruey hit a three at the buzzer. 738 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 11: The Lakers win it so selfless. Lebron good on new Man. 739 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 11: Look at that. 740 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 1: He's a new man, just in time for them to 741 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 1: trade him. This is just wonderful stuff. For By the way, 742 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,360 Speaker 1: the fact that he went almost thirteen hundred games scoring 743 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 1: at least ten points is gone. Like you talk about stats, Yeah, 744 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,319 Speaker 1: you could make a stat for anything, but that is bananas. 745 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 2: The career he's had so. 746 00:40:58,480 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 6: Good for you. 747 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 3: He's wanted the best, Yeah, it is uh