Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2: All Right, Ladies headlines, Oh oh Greamer, Oh god, how now?
Speaker 2: I was really really sad about that. This said life.
Speaker 3: Oh, I know.
Speaker 2: I woke up and I literally audibly went no, so young, no,
Speaker 2: And Alan's like what and I'm like no, like literally
Speaker 2: just kept saying, He's like, babe, what's wrong? I said,
Speaker 2: this breaks my heart. It was very much in the
Speaker 2: timing of you know, we were talking about postpartum and
Speaker 2: depression and all the things, and with Hayden Panetiera's death,
Speaker 2: it just it broke my heart. It literally just broke
Speaker 2: my heart. And I think what also just made me
Speaker 2: really sad about it was again all the i'm gonna
Speaker 2: say ninety percent, I'm gonna be fair on that, like
Speaker 2: or kind women going how could she leave her this?
Speaker 2: How would you? All the comments and then still not
Speaker 2: like understanding how someone has dealt with a lot of addiction,
Speaker 2: postpartum and struggle, and then you know, bringing back up
Speaker 2: the whole Nutrigena. The fact that I watched the interview too.
Speaker 2: She was so beautiful and just open and honest on
Speaker 2: that Kelly and Michael show. I watched the clip and
Speaker 2: I'm like, what a beautiful moment. And then for that
Speaker 2: beautiful moment of vulnerability and honesty and just like sharing
Speaker 2: something that even then women were not speaking about. For
Speaker 2: them to lose a contract, for her not to hear
Speaker 2: one word from the Nutrigena team, like, shame on them.
Speaker 2: And I wish they would put out a statement and
Speaker 2: they say correct, not that I know of. I have
Speaker 2: no idea, so maybe they didn't, But like, I just
Speaker 2: think that's so awful. Like I understand losing sponsorships with
Speaker 2: certain things, like if someone got caught doing something that
Speaker 2: was maybe illegal. I can understand losing partners. I don't
Speaker 2: think people should lose their jobs based on extra Maria things.
Speaker 2: I just don't ye unless it's affecting. But if it's
Speaker 2: affecting a brand, I can look at it and go, Okay,
Speaker 2: is that the best person for the brand? So maybe
Speaker 2: I can understand it. I still I'm like, kind of
Speaker 2: do you.
Speaker 3: Have an opinion on the cold Play situation?
Speaker 2: If someone is representing a brand, I think again, it's
Speaker 2: just hard, so that's where the piece. But when you're
Speaker 2: talking about postpartum like, oh, depression, how is that negatively
Speaker 2: affecting like that she didn't say it like in a
Speaker 2: like she's.
Speaker 3: Felt like a gift to the brand, like.
Speaker 2: To celebrate women. Like why didn't you use the opportunity
Speaker 2: to be like, you know what, let's speak into this.
Speaker 2: Why did they take it as a negative? Like imagine
Speaker 2: the spiral of being like I was open and honest
Speaker 2: about something and I just lost ten or however many
Speaker 2: years of a decade long partnership because I was honest
Speaker 2: about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't under and I don't understand because were
Speaker 1: they getting a lot of backlash? Like that's my question
Speaker 1: in this whole thing. I'm like, how is it truly
Speaker 1: affecting you in a negative way? Now? Do businesses have
Speaker 1: the right to make these choices the morals clause? Sure,
Speaker 1: there are clauses and they have rights to do these things,
Speaker 1: but they also you have rights to do a lot
Speaker 1: of things, and there's consequences for them. But I don't
Speaker 1: understand how this one was falling badly on them. I
Speaker 1: mean maybe because they weren't talking about it ten years
Speaker 1: ago people were saying, I can't believe you would work
Speaker 1: with someone Like what were they saying that was so
Speaker 1: affecting them? So badly. That's what I think.
Speaker 3: The gentigraphic like exactly that news Regina hits.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't even understand unless they just quickly jumped
Speaker 1: at it, you know before, I don't know. It doesn't
Speaker 1: add up to me. I think it was all and
Speaker 1: I don't think that was.
Speaker 2: Fair at all. No, I don't think it was fair
Speaker 2: at all. And I think it's really sad and everything
Speaker 2: that she was dealing with and struggling with it just
Speaker 2: broke my heart. I think what also, the piece that
Speaker 2: really breaks my heart is that apparently she was with
Speaker 2: her abuser again. And that's the part where I'm like,
Speaker 2: it's so hard, Like again, I have had these conversations
Speaker 2: on here before where like he was one of my abusers,
Speaker 2: was physically abusive, and then I would go back to
Speaker 2: that abuser, like literally after I called the cops one
Speaker 2: of the times and said he just tried to kill me,
Speaker 2: I went back that night to him. Yeah, And it's
Speaker 2: like that, like that cycle is such an impossible cycle
Speaker 2: to break, and I wish people like would give some
Speaker 2: grace and empathy for that, but there's no there's no
Speaker 2: help for that either, Like there's truly not there's so
Speaker 2: much isolation, you know, and there's so much like people
Speaker 2: don't understand it, and so they're so quick to say things,
Speaker 2: but it's like it's very hard to get out an
Speaker 2: abusive relationship. It's and it just broke my heart that
Speaker 2: like she went back too, But again people don't There's
Speaker 2: there's no help in that area.
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of times in situations like this,
Speaker 1: with addiction and with domestic abuse, I think people am
Speaker 1: around you and the post part of all of it,
Speaker 1: I think people around you try to help, you know,
Speaker 1: as much as they know how that they can, and
Speaker 1: then they lose hope and they essentially a lot of
Speaker 1: the time end up. And you know, I've been in
Speaker 1: this situation losing a relationship with someone because you don't
Speaker 1: know how to help, because we as everyday people can't
Speaker 1: help our loved ones get out of these situations, you know.
Speaker 1: And it's like, so I saw where her mom, who
Speaker 1: was estranged, you know, said we tried to get her
Speaker 1: away from him. I'm sure they did, you know, but
Speaker 1: like until she wants to get away from him, there's
Speaker 1: not much that people around her could do. So that
Speaker 1: does beg the question for how do we help these
Speaker 1: people in these situations. I don't know the answer to that,
Speaker 1: but and.
Speaker 3: Kind of like a trademark characteristic of these relationships is isolation.
Speaker 3: Like I witnessed that majority of my life, Like I
Speaker 3: watched it be abusive and volatile, and it just and
Speaker 3: it was there was never breaks and there was never
Speaker 3: going to be a divorce, you know. And so I think,
Speaker 3: but I did watch the social circle get smaller and
Speaker 3: smaller and smaller, and like that it does from an
Speaker 3: outsider trying to help. Inside you're you're so boundaried out,
Speaker 3: like there's no way for you to get in sometimes
Speaker 3: to speak, I mean, I think the biggest thing and
Speaker 3: I think we learned this as friends during like the
Speaker 3: relationship in the the divorce with your ex was the
Speaker 3: best thing we could do was just to pour the
Speaker 3: trust back into yourself, you know. But like I mean,
Speaker 3: like as friends for us to say, well, what do
Speaker 3: you stop telling you what to do? Because you were
Speaker 3: always being told what to do? And it's just I mean,
Speaker 3: it's just I've watched it. I watched people try and fail,
Speaker 3: So I don't I hate it, and it makes me
Speaker 3: really said, she's also a mom, So there's just a
Speaker 3: sweet baby that doesn't have their mom anymore.
Speaker 2: I know, it's heartbreaking. What do you guys have any
Speaker 2: other thoughts on any of the any.
Speaker 3: Do we know any information? I honestly an overdose, correct
Speaker 3: the speculation, I didn't know anything.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know that they have said for sure,
Speaker 1: But at last I saw the speculation was that it was
Speaker 1: an overdose and narcan was found in the home and stuff. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, from what I have seen and read of
Speaker 1: their relationship in the past, it's been around drugs a
Speaker 1: lot in the past, so I'm not sure. Oh, so sad, aiden,
Speaker 1: you know, And it's just it really also is just
Speaker 1: so sad to see so many of these people who
Speaker 1: grew up in the industry and what ends up happening
Speaker 1: to them, and not all of them, but a lot
Speaker 1: of them, you know, And it's so sad and it's
Speaker 1: so scary. It's just a hard world to grow up
Speaker 1: in as a kid.
Speaker 3: And they're so human.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just human. Yeah, Yeah, it's it's so sad.
Speaker 3: I hate that. And I watch, you know, Charles Eston
Speaker 3: is a friend of ours, and I watch his really sad,
Speaker 3: heartfelt tribute to her, and just the I mean it's
Speaker 3: a friend. This is like loved ones. She's a friend,
Speaker 3: she's a daughter. I mean that is just what a loss?
Speaker 2: Yeah, frustrated David Crumholtz puts acting on holden definitely. David Crumholtz,
Speaker 2: known for his recent role in Oppenheimer, en roles in
Speaker 2: the Santa Claus franchise and Harold and Kumer films, and
Speaker 2: now sent a since deleted thread he's taking a break
Speaker 2: from acting. He wrote, I kind of sort of put
Speaker 2: my acting career on hold the other day. It's been
Speaker 2: something I've been petrified to do for a year. Specifically,
Speaker 2: the fear was that I'd go broke and not be
Speaker 2: able to handle being out of the game. But I
Speaker 2: sent the definitive email, he added, and got to say,
Speaker 2: a huge wave of relief washed over. Mate. Not sure
Speaker 2: what I'm going to do for money instead, or how
Speaker 2: I'm going to do it, but I just removed a
Speaker 2: humongous burden, one that I truly didn't fathom the weight
Speaker 2: of until it was gone. He received a lot of
Speaker 2: positive support for his choice and added that there was
Speaker 2: a time when being competitive and self involved really served
Speaker 2: my pursuit. That time has passed much to my overwhelming surprise,
Speaker 2: there will always be great joy and the exercise, But
Speaker 2: for me, the profession has lost its gleam.
Speaker 3: Do you ever feel like that which piece, well, any
Speaker 3: of it, but more that the professions lost its gleam
Speaker 3: because you've been in this a long time. You were young,
Speaker 3: still young, I might add, but but like you know,
Speaker 3: almost twenty five years in, that's it changes, right, Like
Speaker 3: I even watch it with Preston and music, because it
Speaker 3: used to be for the fulfillment and the fandom and
Speaker 3: the la la and now at one point, yeah, and
Speaker 3: now it's like to pay for our family and to
Speaker 3: provide means, you know, to support a whole household. But
Speaker 3: it's gotten less shiny, and not that he doesn't still
Speaker 3: love it, but yeah, he doesn't love being away like
Speaker 3: he did.
Speaker 2: And I think for me, it's one of those things
Speaker 2: where it's I love I love, I love acting, I
Speaker 2: really do like. I love being on set, I love
Speaker 2: being around people, I love creating things. I think it's
Speaker 2: it's such a like a therapy for me too, you
Speaker 2: know that it's I just really enjoy playing and like
Speaker 2: stepping into different characters. I feel like I'm like chasing
Speaker 2: something and it's like a you know, obviously like I'm
Speaker 2: still wanting that series regular role again, but it's like
Speaker 2: even when, because I know there'll be a when unless
Speaker 2: I quit, which I don't. I don't see why. No,
Speaker 2: I mean like there I don't want to do Actually
Speaker 2: I don't think you know how.
Speaker 3: To quit anything kind of specifically acting like I think
Speaker 3: it's so DNA.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm like, one day when that happens, like
Speaker 2: I've realized that it's not going to be like the
Speaker 2: fulfillment that I think it's going to give me. That
Speaker 2: makes sense, Yeah, that makes sense. And that is the
Speaker 2: piece where I'm just like I'm okay with it, not
Speaker 2: because I always thought like, oh, I'll just be so
Speaker 2: happy when that happens. Like and someone said something in
Speaker 2: a comment one time that really hit with me. They're like,
Speaker 2: you kind of have it. You've got a beautiful family,
Speaker 2: and so you really just start to take things into consider.
Speaker 2: It's like, I I love my role right now as
Speaker 2: a mom, and how I'm able to do what I
Speaker 2: love and still be able to like be here and
Speaker 2: like just take you know, a movie that does every
Speaker 2: three weeks and have do sponsors, like all those these
Speaker 2: wind down, Like all these things are really fun. They'll
Speaker 2: be a time and place, but when I book that
Speaker 2: series regular role, it's not going to be like, oh, yes,
Speaker 2: everything's perfect now, because they'll still be challenges. There will
Speaker 2: still be things that are you know, we're gonna have
Speaker 2: to face and like, you know, I'm walking through something
Speaker 2: right now where we're talking about a show that like
Speaker 2: is like filming in Canada and I'm like, okay, well,
Speaker 2: how that's a whole other arena that like how would
Speaker 2: I do that for six months out of the year
Speaker 2: or you know, and it's like it's not going But
Speaker 2: I also know it's something that I love to do
Speaker 2: and I'll never walk away from it. I may again
Speaker 2: never I might not ever get a series regular role again,
Speaker 2: And that's okay because I'm still going to be doing
Speaker 2: it in some form or fashion, sure, and that is
Speaker 2: what I that's what I want, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But like the chase of it, like I don't like
Speaker 2: I have an audition today that I'm gonna put on
Speaker 2: tape later and it's it is what it is, Like
Speaker 2: I can tell by your body, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like it's it. But because I'm like the chances are
Speaker 2: two percent. I know that now, like, and it's not
Speaker 2: gonna It doesn't mean that I'm not good enough. You know,
Speaker 2: it's just not the one yet. And it's okay. Something
Speaker 2: will happen. I will get an offer or something, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. It may not be as many
Speaker 2: as I used to as I get older what about it, or.
Speaker 1: It might be, but that's not the thing that's going
Speaker 1: to be Oh my god, I'm so happy.
Speaker 2: There's not going to be the burden weight right exactly.
Speaker 1: And you're still going to be looking for the next
Speaker 1: thing always. I mean, it's not like you're gonna get
Speaker 1: that series regular and be like, well, now I gotta
Speaker 1: get whatever. I don't know, yecause you're always looking for
Speaker 1: that next thing. In a good way, though, I do that.
Speaker 1: I mean that in a positive way. So it's not like, oh,
Speaker 1: you've hit it and now we can just sit here
Speaker 1: and coasts.
Speaker 3: For the rest of life.
Speaker 1: You know, Like it's still you're going to be working hard.
Speaker 2: But I can understand like that feeling of burden. I mean,
Speaker 2: because honestly, in February I did call my agent saying
Speaker 2: I think I'm done, and like the second I said
Speaker 2: it to her. I regretted saying it because that's not
Speaker 2: my truth. I'm just at a point where I'm yeah,
Speaker 2: of course I'm frustrated, and I didn't like the experience
Speaker 2: that I had, you know, and it's okay to be
Speaker 2: frustrated and feel those things. And then but I mean
Speaker 2: I genuinely was like I think I'm done. I think
Speaker 2: I'm gonna quit. And then like seconds that came out
Speaker 2: of my mouth, I was like, that wasn't the truth.
Speaker 2: I'm just tired and I'm frustrated. And you can still
Speaker 2: feel that and pick yourself back up again, absolutely and
Speaker 2: start fresh again. But if he felt that enormous off
Speaker 2: of them, then like that's how you know. That's how
Speaker 2: you know. Like there's things that you know, I might
Speaker 2: say I don't want to do anymore and you have
Speaker 2: that weight off and it feels great.
Speaker 1: Well I can see that. I can see there being
Speaker 1: things in your career where you're like you've let go
Speaker 1: of it and you feel that.
Speaker 2: Really yeah, like one day, who knows, there might be
Speaker 2: a relief when we end this. I don't know, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like there are like doing spumps,
Speaker 2: I don't know, Oh, like it's like something where it's
Speaker 2: like when week who knows stuff, but I do.
Speaker 3: Like even when Preston was like, I don't know, like
Speaker 3: you know, he struggles with being away from us so much,
Speaker 3: like he's just gone so much and he's missing so
Speaker 3: many things. And as they get older, they're bigger and
Speaker 3: bigger things. So it's like, you know, Legend's one of
Speaker 3: the few kids on the team that doesn't have the
Speaker 3: dad at practice and doesn't have a dad at baseball
Speaker 3: like or at the baseball game, and so and like,
Speaker 3: you know, he's made it to a couple of cheer comps,
Speaker 3: but he you know whatever. And so I finally the
Speaker 3: other day was like, Okay, well what would it like
Speaker 3: if you did, Like what would we do? Let's like
Speaker 3: just try it on in our brains for a minute
Speaker 3: and just you know.
Speaker 2: But yeah, and I guess I could honestly relate to
Speaker 2: the music piece, like though it's sad and there's pieces
Speaker 2: I miss about music and touring that was a big
Speaker 2: burden to not I don't I didn't want to be
Speaker 2: on the road, right, yeah, I didn't want that. Like
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I got a baby, buy I got
Speaker 2: a grab on a bus like that's not like that
Speaker 2: wasn't what fulfilled my heart and soul. Sure, and I
Speaker 2: didn't want to keep pushing for some thing where I
Speaker 2: could feel myself just hitting that wall every single time
Speaker 2: and being told no, you're not this or this and
Speaker 2: like and and I'm like I did I didn't like it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I didn't like the what these program directors were. I
Speaker 2: didn't like any of it. I didn't like. I did
Speaker 2: not like feeling like I was not good enough every
Speaker 2: single time. That's how I felt from like the comments
Speaker 2: of certain people, like certain program directors that rhyme with
Speaker 2: a gator, you know what I mean, like.
Speaker 3: And hater for them.
Speaker 2: So I'm just saying, like, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: like when you're constantly told that you're just not good,
Speaker 2: Like I'm like, I don't want to keep doing this.
Speaker 2: This is not fun for me anymore.
Speaker 3: Like this is a conversation in my home. Yeah, it's wild.
Speaker 3: Well it's like you know, they sent out a project,
Speaker 3: right and and somebody comes back with like a time
Speaker 3: to go back to the studio and you're like, put
Speaker 3: my heart and soul and you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like it's just a wild time.
Speaker 3: But also these people aren't saying things to their faces either,
Speaker 3: So it is what it is. I just, I just,
Speaker 3: I know we've all had those moments in life where
Speaker 3: like we've quit something and we've felt the relief, and
Speaker 3: then there's other times.
Speaker 2: Where like marriages, I felt, Wow, now.
Speaker 3: That's a whole nother podcast. I definitely feel that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the relief I remember a deep relief.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: A sadness and a relief. Yeah, two things true at
Speaker 3: the same time, one hundred percent. Oh yeah, sadness, but
Speaker 3: not because of the person. Like I remember someone's like, well,
Speaker 3: I never cried a drop. I'm like, oh no, my
Speaker 3: tears were not for you, sweetheart. My tears were for
Speaker 3: the family that I lost, like and dream. It was
Speaker 3: never because of you, Like, let's not lose that in translation,
Speaker 3: like let me be, let me be. We're still clear
Speaker 3: on that, you know what I mean, Like, because I remember,
Speaker 3: you know, he even spoke on our podcast He's like,
Speaker 3: I didn't cry once, and I'm like I always thought
Speaker 3: about that because I'm like, was he trying to say
Speaker 3: that to be like like.
Speaker 2: Not that he was like trying to be mean or whatever.
Speaker 2: But I've always reflected on that because I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: I also like, my tears were not for you.
Speaker 3: I think that is probably like a symptom of the
Speaker 3: emotional intelligence. I think that that was what that was. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't, but I do think it's funny.
Speaker 1: Okay, no, but it's a fashion.
Speaker 2: But we know too much. It's my favorite version of us.
Speaker 2: It's okay when someone doesn't cry about the end of
Speaker 2: a and they can be relieved. But I want to
Speaker 2: be clear, my tears were.
Speaker 3: Not the.
Speaker 2: State. I just have never actually said that because it
Speaker 2: was like I was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, while you say this, but I really want to
Speaker 1: say to you, is now okay.
Speaker 2: Speaking of marriages, Juliana Hoff reacts to x getting married
Speaker 2: in Idaho wedding on a post of Brooks and his
Speaker 2: new wedding announcement, Juliana commented, congratulations, so so happy for
Speaker 2: you both, sending you all love, health and happiness for
Speaker 2: the years to come for you and your family. I
Speaker 2: love that Juliana and Brooks previously got married on the
Speaker 2: same Idaho lakeside in twenty seventeen. He told people that
Speaker 2: he knew this venue is where he wanted to get
Speaker 2: married from the start.
Speaker 3: So thoughts ladies like he's married two different women in
Speaker 3: the same venue. Yeah, same l same like, oh same la.
Speaker 2: First of all, I love the congre like I love
Speaker 2: the congratulations. Hell, I love that. So I just think
Speaker 2: that's always so beautiful to see. Yeah, Like, for example,
Speaker 2: one of the questions here is did Mike publicly congratulate?
Speaker 2: I mean that publicly, But he wrote me a card?
Speaker 3: Remember did I show you guys that I vaguely remember this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he he wrote me a like a really sweet card. Well.
Speaker 3: I also think he deeply like respects and loves Alan,
Speaker 3: so I think.
Speaker 2: He Yeah, it was just like I just remember, like
Speaker 2: I didn't need some public right right. I don't know
Speaker 2: if he commented. I haven't looked back on like my
Speaker 2: wedding cook to see like who commented, But like it
Speaker 2: was the private piece of it that was so sweet.
Speaker 2: That was like he wrote such a thoughtful card of
Speaker 2: like being like I'm proud of I'm happy for you
Speaker 2: and all the things you're getting, what you deserve and
Speaker 2: all that you know, And it was just like I
Speaker 2: love that. So but he lucked out.
Speaker 3: That's what That's what my statement was trying to be like,
Speaker 3: you have taken such a mature high road and you've
Speaker 3: married someone that also does the same. It could be
Speaker 3: very easily not that way, And so I think, like
Speaker 3: his appreciation feels healthy and valid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, for sure, but I don't. But what do
Speaker 2: you guys think about the same like kind of location.
Speaker 1: I think if it doesn't bother her, then what does
Speaker 1: it hurt?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I find it interesting. I actually.
Speaker 2: I'm so curious to see I kind of had a
Speaker 2: feeling that was big, But I'm curious where.
Speaker 3: Don't like it.
Speaker 2: I knew you weren't going to that's I knew I
Speaker 2: was going to falter to Catherine on this one. I
Speaker 2: was gonna agree with Kat and I knew I had
Speaker 2: a feeling too. Yeah, why do you think that's the feeling?
Speaker 2: It's you're more like the intentionality.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which I am too.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, I can so separate and
Speaker 2: then marry someone off of the same like you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. I'm like such a good point, Like
Speaker 2: I would be like, you want to get married in
Speaker 2: the same castle, me and I all got married, Like you.
Speaker 1: Really do kind of contradict yourself all in that. I
Speaker 1: wasn't sure where you'd go, But that makes sense. I
Speaker 1: knew where I was. I knew where you would.
Speaker 3: Probably There's just so many places in the world that
Speaker 3: we could go, you know, And I.
Speaker 2: Gets it's important. It must be special to him, yes,
Speaker 2: of course, and again and to them, you know, I
Speaker 2: certainly know one to be on a record, I would
Speaker 2: love to just I would love to just say that
Speaker 2: I want everyone to be you know, many times after
Speaker 2: I said my one thing, I'm like, I want everybody
Speaker 2: to be happy, because that is my truth.
Speaker 3: That's right, and I do. I I if it doesn't
Speaker 3: bother her, doesn't bother me. But I've had a very
Speaker 3: if you were in a situatuation where a location has
Speaker 3: been repeated and it didn't I was the first of
Speaker 3: that location, and so it did not bother me at all.
Speaker 3: But I wondered sometimes if that if if the person
Speaker 3: even knew that was always my thing.
Speaker 2: Obviously this day she knows because it's so public. But
Speaker 2: can I contradict myself yet again?
Speaker 1: I know I kind of have something too, Like.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to go to a place that either
Speaker 2: one of us had. So I've never had a honeymoon
Speaker 2: follow my marriages. I never have either, well I have now,
Speaker 2: but like, yeah, you know, what I mean, It was
Speaker 2: really important to me to not be in a location
Speaker 2: where either one of us had gone before. I like that,
Speaker 2: But of course I would find a vacation with someone else.
Speaker 2: So that's where I can contradict myself right there, Okay,
Speaker 2: Because I wanted it to just be something that we
Speaker 2: experience together and vacation together and experienced together for the
Speaker 2: first time. Yeah, for some reason that was important to me.
Speaker 2: Couldn't care less if he got married in Scotland before,
Speaker 2: couldn't care less that, like you know whatever is That
Speaker 2: was the piece that I was like the most. And
Speaker 2: then like in this situation, like who cares? Like everyone
Speaker 2: like if it's important to them, it's yeah again all
Speaker 2: the things. Yes, no, no, I get it.
Speaker 3: And I do like when a location like that is important,
Speaker 3: and sometimes I think it's worth making a new memory
Speaker 3: that sits, you know, like when it is someplace that's
Speaker 3: really important to you. Yeah, and like listen, we'll go
Speaker 3: vacation somewhere where he's of course, because we've been did
Speaker 3: people years before us in New Mexico.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yes, can't go to Mexico.
Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying. But like for something
Speaker 2: that was specific to like our honeymoon. I was like,
Speaker 2: that was very much like can we go here it?
Speaker 2: And He's like no. I went on like, okay, let's
Speaker 2: scratch that, you know. I felt that way when we
Speaker 2: were picking baby names. I was like, oh, gido gee,
Speaker 2: is there any name?
Speaker 1: So what's interesting to me is I I was thinking
Speaker 1: at first when reading this, would it upset me if
Speaker 1: I were Julianne, not if I was the new right?
Speaker 2: Oh that's what I never even looked at it though.
Speaker 1: That's the way I was looking at this the whole time.
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm the Julianne, which is so it
Speaker 3: should bother me. But I I wonder if that person
Speaker 3: knows all of those locations.
Speaker 1: Like I feel like if I were in that position,
Speaker 1: it would bother me. If I were Julianne.
Speaker 2: Oh see, I could care less if my ex got
Speaker 2: married in the same vineyard we got married on also same.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I feel like that would maybe
Speaker 1: bother me.
Speaker 2: But that's so amazing. I love how we're so different
Speaker 2: on like all of this.
Speaker 1: I mean, I definitely probably wouldn't want to if I
Speaker 1: was the new one. Again, it's whatever they want to do.
Speaker 1: I definitely probably wouldn't because I'm like, I don't want
Speaker 1: to have like pictures look the same as like you
Speaker 1: know whatever. But I feel like it would bother me
Speaker 1: if I was.
Speaker 2: Can I ask you why?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm curious myself because that's all kept talking. I'm like, interesting, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it definitely thought me.
Speaker 3: I will say this though, and this may be not
Speaker 3: like super on the same line, but like, I remember
Speaker 3: that my ex moved back to our hometown and so
Speaker 3: I felt very like he got the hometown in the divorce,
Speaker 3: and so for a while I didn't like home because
Speaker 3: I was like, everyone probably has this preconceived notion of me, Like.
Speaker 1: In my mind, the lake was probably a special place
Speaker 1: for them first because they were together first, but it
Speaker 1: could it could. I know totally that. I think. Maybe
Speaker 1: that's why I went there because I was thinking, oh,
Speaker 1: this was so special to them, and then he went
Speaker 1: and just did it again. But anyway, it's just very
Speaker 1: fascinating that I was thinking about.
Speaker 3: Her and not the Yeah, I didn't even think about
Speaker 3: that way. Yeah, so that's why very different always matter.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting, But I hope everyone's really happy. I do too,
Speaker 3: and I do. I actually do really want to stand
Speaker 3: by the statement, like I love making a a new
Speaker 3: memory and recreating a space because I got to do
Speaker 3: that at home and I felt like I can go
Speaker 3: home now, you know, like the rip off the band
Speaker 3: aid and just go back. But so it could be
Speaker 3: that you know, it's super sacred and you get to
Speaker 3: like marry your forever person.
Speaker 1: I mean clearly new wife didn't care no, because she
Speaker 1: get married there. Yeah, so she's cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah the whole time there it is. I mean, listen,
Speaker 2: I I would even marry my ex, like if they wanted.
Speaker 2: If you want to be the efficient.
Speaker 1: Oh, I was like, what kidding?
Speaker 3: We're married, scratch that publicly. I don't know if we
Speaker 3: need to sign up to be ordained.
Speaker 1: Things are getting Also, wasn't thinking ordained first?
Speaker 2: And I'm kidding, But I know you.
Speaker 1: Would do something like that for them, So would Mike
Speaker 1: for that matter, Yes, both, if y'all would do something
Speaker 1: like that, Mike.
Speaker 3: Is actually bummed you didn't that.
Speaker 2: Probably he's like, yeah, anyway, all right, y'all have a
Speaker 2: good one too. Bye