1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: I'm Hillary Clinton, and this is you and me both. 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: During my time as Secretary of State, I encountered firsthand 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: the challenges of managing multiple crises across the globe. You know, 4 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: every conflict requires your attention, every opportunity requires your attention, 5 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: and it all happens at the same time. Success in 6 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: the job means being able to balance it all while 7 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: never losing sight of the bigger picture. And while the 8 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: world is rightly focused now on the horrific violence that 9 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: erupted in the Middle East because of Hamas's inhumane attack 10 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: on Israeli's men, women, children, babies, while that crisis is continuing, 11 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: we also have to stay focused on Russia's brutal and 12 00:00:55,600 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: barbaric war against Ukraine, which rages on. Ukrainians need our help, 13 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: you know. Back in September, I had the opportunity to 14 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:10,839 Speaker 1: join with leaders, activists and philanthropists at the annual meeting 15 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: of the Clinton Global Initiative what we call CIGI in 16 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: New York. Together with First Lady Olena Zelenska, we announced 17 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: the launch of a CGI Ukraine Action Network that's a 18 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: coalition of partners committed to supporting the people of Ukraine. 19 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: Since its invasion of Ukraine in February of twenty twenty two. 20 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: Russia has violated all the rules of engagement, committed war 21 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: crimes and genocide. Thousands and thousands of Ukrainian civilians have 22 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: been injured and killed indiscriminately, and thousands of Ukrainian children 23 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: have been kidnapped. In the face of this violence and devastation, 24 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: people of goodwill all around the world are stepping up, 25 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: helping to supper sport the humanitarian crises on the ground. 26 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: I want to share with you my conversations with two 27 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: such people who are making an incredible difference. Both of 28 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: my guests today have been doing everything they can to 29 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:19,559 Speaker 1: support the people of Ukraine in their brave and necessary 30 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: fight to defend their homeland, to defend their freedom, to 31 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: determine their own future, and both are members of our 32 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: CGI Ukraine Action Network through their respective organizations. Later, I'll 33 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: be talking with actor and director Liev Schreiber, who co 34 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: founded Blue Chech Ukraine, an organization that he will tell 35 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: us about. But first I want to introduce you to 36 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: Olga Rudneva. Since Russia first invaded Crimea back in twenty fourteen, 37 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: Olga has been working to support veterans, women and to 38 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: train paramedics. The following Russia's full scale invasion in twenty 39 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: twenty two, Olga and two partners quickly saw the need 40 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: for another vital service, providing prosthetic limbs along with rehabilitative 41 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: services to the hundreds of soldiers as well as civilians 42 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: who have lost their limbs in this terrible war, and 43 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: so they created the Superhuman's Center, a rehabilitation clinic that 44 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: does just that. As CEO, Olga brings her invaluable skills 45 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: as a leader and an entrepreneur. But you know, even 46 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: more impressive to me, as you'll hear, is the courage 47 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: and humanity she brings to this very difficult and emotionally 48 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: challenging work. I am honored to be speaking with her, So, Olga, 49 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: welcome to you and me both. And I had the 50 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: honor of seeing you at the Clinton Global Initiative in 51 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: September in New York City. Recently. Where am I talking 52 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: to you now? 53 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 2: Right now? 54 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 3: I'm in Kiev and we just survived a very horrid 55 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 3: night of rocket attacks on Odessa, so it was a 56 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 3: lot of air as Syrians during the nighttime. But I'm 57 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 3: in Kiev for the next couple of days and then 58 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 3: back to Lviv to Superhuman Center. 59 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: Well, I'm sorry that you and every other person in 60 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: Ukraine has to continue to suffer from this terrible war, 61 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 1: but there are so many Ukrainians who are doing everything 62 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: they know to do, and you're one of them. And 63 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: I want you to tell our listeners about the organization 64 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: that you and others have started called Superhumans. What is it? Olga? 65 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 3: First of all, I want to say, please do not 66 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 3: feel sorry for us. We know what we are fighting for. 67 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 3: We are fighting for our freedom, independence and the right 68 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 3: to be a country. So please be proud of us, 69 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 3: and we need support. You know, we can win this war, 70 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 3: but we can't win it without external support. A year 71 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 3: ago we decided to look what we can do today 72 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 3: for tomorrow because we are doing at the beginning of 73 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 3: war with my partners, that humanitarian warehouse where we are 74 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 3: helping foreigners who collected humanitarian aid to bring this aid 75 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 3: to Ukraine and distribute that amongst those who needed. So 76 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 3: we thought, okay, what else can we do because we 77 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 3: couldn't sleep, we couldn't eat normally. The only thing that 78 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 3: you can do is work hards you know, to help 79 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 3: your country, and we realized that losing cleams and amputation 80 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,799 Speaker 3: is going to be a very big problem. So Andrestevenitzer said, 81 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 3: let's do the prosthetic center, and we will do the 82 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 3: predeases for people who lot their limbs. We will do rebilitation, 83 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 3: and we will provide psychological support. So with this picture 84 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 3: in mind, we started building superhumans in Lviv, and we 85 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 3: built it over four and a half months during the 86 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 3: full scale invasion, and we opened our doors on April fifteenth. 87 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 1: Well, it's an extraordinary story, and I am in great 88 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: admiration of what you and others have done. You know, 89 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: I served in the United States Senate with Danny Ineway, 90 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: a Medal of Honor winner during World War Two who 91 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: lost his arm, And I remember having a long conversation 92 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 1: with him about that, and I'll never forget him saying, 93 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: you know, I could have not just lost an arm, 94 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: but lost my life even if I'd stayed alive. But 95 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: the people who took care of me, who gave me 96 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: the support, who taught me how to address myself and 97 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: how to do day to day activities, they gave my 98 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: life back to me. 99 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 2: Exactly. 100 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 3: You know, sixty percent of those people who get their 101 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 3: brutises never used them because they actually don't know how 102 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 3: to use Nobody taught them. And then we realized that, 103 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 3: I know it sounds weird, but we don't need lax 104 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 3: and we don't need arms. We need lax to come 105 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 3: somewhere and arms to grab something, to hold, something to 106 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 3: give a haalk to someone. So we need to give 107 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 3: the reason for these people to leave their apartments so 108 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 3: they will wear their prestiges. That was a point where 109 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 3: we added one more service to Superhuman Center, the service 110 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 3: of finding new roles for our patients, giving them not 111 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 3: only in new arms or lags, but giving them a 112 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 3: new life, bring them back to the economical system, to 113 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 3: the civil life and to their families. 114 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: It's a big challenge you're facing. I mean, you do 115 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: have thousands of Ukrainian civilians, even children, as well as 116 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: your brave soldiers needing prosthetics, and it's important to underscore 117 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: that part of the reason you have so many injuries 118 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: is how absolutely evil the Russians have been in their 119 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: placement of bombs and minds. Is that correct? 120 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 3: Absolutely? There are two issues that Ukraine is facing. The 121 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 3: first one is mines. They are all over Ukraine forty 122 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 3: percent of Ukrainian territory is mine. And you know, we 123 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 3: often say that if the war over tomorrow, it'll take 124 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 3: us years to the mine. And also mines are very tricky. 125 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 3: You know, sometimes they look nice or they are are 126 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 3: hidden in children toys. In my own house, it was 127 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 3: in the Washington machine. Andre Stavnitzer had it at his 128 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 3: house at the kitchen. So they are targeted at civilians. 129 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 3: That's one issue. Another issue, Russians are targeting paramedics and 130 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 3: medics at the front lines. Medics are very often to 131 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 3: be killed first so they can't save lives, and medic 132 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 3: vocation course, they are targeted by Russian So that means 133 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 3: the person who was wounded, even with a minor injury, 134 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 3: they put turniquets very high and then it takes sometimes 135 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 3: ten hours by his or her comrades to take the 136 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 3: person out to the stabilization point. During these ten hours, 137 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 3: you just lose your hand up to the shelter and 138 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 3: that brings us multiple amputations. It brings us high amputation. 139 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 3: They're very expensive to deal with and they are very 140 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 3: difficult to you know, to teach this person to walk 141 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 3: or to operade within new hand. So that's two issues. 142 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 3: And it's it's a barbarian approach. Because every war has 143 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 3: some rules. This war doesn't have any rules. Russians breaking 144 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 3: the rules all the time. They don't care about civilians. 145 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 3: They target press when they see that it's media. Ah, 146 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 3: they target paramedics, and they don't care about children. 147 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 2: And that's the war. You know, we are surviving for 148 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 2: year and a half already. 149 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: It's really important to me to stress that as terrible 150 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: as war is under any circumstance, which we all understand, 151 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: the attitude of the Russians led by Putin is genocidal. 152 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: I mean, he wants to wipe out Ukrainian people because 153 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: you've had the courage, the temerity even to stand up 154 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: and defend yourselves. And so nobody is safe. There's no 155 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: mercy shown, there's no rules, so violating every convention, the 156 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: Geneva Conventions on war, everything one can imagine. And it's 157 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: why I want Americans to realize that your war is 158 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 1: our war, Your fight is our fight. But you know, Olga, 159 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: you've set this up so quickly. How did you do it? 160 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: First of all, you were building it in the middle 161 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 1: of a war, and you were equipping it, and you 162 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: were recruiting personnel for it. How were you able to 163 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: get all that done in such a short period of time. 164 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 3: I should say, you know, huge thanks to American people. 165 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 3: You know, we have amazing donor Howard Buffett Foundation. Howard 166 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 3: was the first person who trusted in us, and we 167 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 3: told him we want to do that, and he took 168 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 3: the most difficult part, which is you know, building and 169 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 3: reconstruction and equipment. He said, okay, you do the work 170 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 3: and I'll cover expenses. And yeah, we did reconstruct that 171 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 3: in four and a half months. Equipped that, you know, 172 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 3: understanding that we need to act as fast as possible. 173 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 3: I remember Christmas Day when all construction workers said they're 174 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 3: not going to work because it's a holiday. So we said, okay, 175 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 3: we will bring you to the installation of bionic arm. 176 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 3: For construction workers, losing the arm is actually, you know, 177 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 3: the end of the world. So they saw the guy 178 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 3: who lost the arm and we were installing this bionic 179 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 3: arm and we said, listen, we have to install it 180 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 3: in the corridor literally, and they said, okay, wait, we understand. 181 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 3: And they all went to the construction site and they 182 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 3: all worked all holidays, including Christmas Day, because they realized 183 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 3: what we are doing and why we are doing and 184 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 3: the most important for whom we are doing that. So 185 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 3: that helped us. You know, this motivation and the fact 186 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 3: that everyone on the construction site knew what they do 187 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 3: and why they do. That helped us to be very quick. 188 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 3: And when we started hiring the team and we realized 189 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 3: that it's not enough just to build amazing center and 190 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 3: bring the best equipment. 191 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,119 Speaker 2: We don't have expertise in Ukraine. 192 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 3: So we started training especialists all over the world and 193 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 3: the world was very open. They said okay, some came 194 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 3: to Ukraine, some accepted us. So we trained the team 195 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 3: starting like from February and on April we were al 196 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 3: ready to opened our doors and we already at that 197 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 3: time had three hundred patients inline. Right now we have 198 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 3: eight hundred patients in line waiting for their prestiges. 199 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: And how many people have you treated since you've been. 200 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:45,599 Speaker 3: Open since mid of April. We installed two hundred precises. 201 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 3: But it's important to say that we are dealing with 202 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 3: the most difficult cases. It's a lot of people who 203 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 3: got rejection from other centers because of very high imputations, 204 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 3: double triple and putations. 205 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 2: We have a patient in Ukraine. 206 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 3: He was told in Ukraine and abroad that he's probably 207 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 3: will never ever gonna walk. And I see him walking 208 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 3: on a daily basis. I mean he's absolutely I see 209 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 3: him planking. He's double amputy. Yeah, he's planking. I will 210 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 3: send the video. He is literally he's planking and he's 211 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 3: doing you know, his apps. 212 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 2: And I look at him. He is absolutely amazing. 213 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 3: He's already going out on the street and every time 214 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 3: I ask him it's difficult, He's like, no, I'm fine, 215 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 3: I'm gonna walk. So he is an amazing inspiration for me. 216 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 3: So we take difficult cases. These patients are with us 217 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 3: for more than a month very often, and I wish 218 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 3: we could do more pertises. 219 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: But who would look after difficult cases? 220 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 3: Who would look after cases where people had psychological problem? 221 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 3: Because we had several patients and they were feeling pain 222 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 3: all the time and we couldn't. You know, we had 223 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 3: this civilian lady, she was in a bus for her son. 224 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 3: Out of eight people, four were killed, so she survived. 225 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 3: We brought her to Germany at that time and she said, 226 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 3: I can't wear prestigos because it's I'm feeling pain because 227 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 3: of burns. We brought her to Kief and then psychologists 228 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 3: said that she has psychogenic pain. She thinks she is 229 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 3: in pain, but she is not. And the problem was 230 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 3: she's from her son. Her house was fully burnt out, 231 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 3: and she was afraid that. As soon as we installed 232 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 3: her proteases, we discharged her. She has to go back 233 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 3: home and there is no home, and her mind was 234 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 3: thinking that she is in pain. So we helped her 235 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 3: to find a job, We found her place to live. 236 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 3: She's wearing prestiss. She is fifty six. She is happy, 237 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 3: she reunited with the family. She's living in the western 238 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 3: part of Ukraine. You know that kind of support people 239 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 3: need here. Sometimes it's just to talk with the psychologist. 240 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 3: So lots of stories, lots of stories. 241 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: Taking a quick break, stay with us. You know, the 242 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: courage of the Ukrainian people has been tested time and 243 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: time again. How do you keep that energy? How do 244 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: you keep being resilient? You know, every one of us 245 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: as human beings, you know, we get exhausted, we get tired. 246 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: How do you keep going? 247 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 3: The first thing again, we know what we are fighting for. 248 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 3: It's very important. We just know what we are fighting for. 249 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 3: I think this is the most important thing that you know, 250 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 3: we understand that we are fighting for our right to 251 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 3: speak our language, for our right to wake up in 252 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 3: our country, in our cities and our houses, and we 253 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 3: want to have the rights. 254 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 2: To go on my done if we don't like our governments. 255 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: You know, that's Ukrainians, that's democracy, that's free. 256 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, for the Russians, I guess it's going 257 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 3: to be very big tragedy after the war. People don't 258 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 3: know what are they fighting for. 259 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: I agree with you that there is going to be 260 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: some kind of reckoning. I don't know what it is, 261 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: but there will be some reckoning inside Russia. So how 262 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: do you see the next year for superhumans? Are you 263 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: trying to get more funding, are you trying to build 264 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: satellite offices? Are you trying to recruit more people? 265 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 3: First of all, we are launching one more service, which 266 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 3: is reconstructive surgery. We have people who literally lost their faces, 267 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 3: and losing your face is like closing care identity. So 268 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 3: one more service restoring faces, ability to breathe, ability to see, 269 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 3: ability to hear, and we want to scale up. We 270 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 3: are looking at five more regions. I'm not sure we're 271 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 3: going to do five more next year, but at least 272 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 3: two more because we need to provide services closer to 273 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 3: the places where our patients are. Ukraine is a very 274 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 3: big country. We are at the western part of Ukraine 275 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 3: at the most safe place, but we want to go 276 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 3: closer to the front lines to open one more two 277 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 3: more superhumans in twenty twenty four, one more service feeding 278 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 3: with the prestigious more people. Right now, we can do 279 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 3: fifty patients. It's one million dollars only in prosthetic components. 280 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 3: It's very expensive things, but we need to do two 281 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 3: hundred three hundred per months because the need is very big. 282 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:23,959 Speaker 1: Well, part of the reason I wanted to talk with 283 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 1: you is that I have a small understanding because along 284 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: with the late Senator John McCain, I helped to raise 285 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 1: money for the Intrepid Center that does exactly what you're 286 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: talking about in our country, and it was established to 287 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: take care of our returning soldiers who had been injured 288 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: in Iraq at Afghanistan. So I have a special caring 289 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: for what you're doing because I know what a difference 290 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: it can make as we get close to closing oga. 291 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 1: What gives you hope for the future of your country. 292 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 3: You know, maybe we are over evaluating, you know, the 293 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 3: role of Ukraine. But we see right now Ukraine as 294 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 3: a country that fights the world evolved, which is Russia. 295 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 3: If Russia will invade Ukraine, it can do to anyone 296 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 3: in this world. So that gives us hope that we 297 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 3: have a special mission, you know, to fight for the 298 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 3: whole world. And I think that it's probably it helps, 299 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 3: you know, sometimes to feel that you are a hero. Also, 300 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,239 Speaker 3: these people that I see every day. There's people that 301 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 3: walk in in a wheelchair and three days later they 302 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 3: walk to me and they hug me. They give me 303 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 3: hope every time when I tell them, I'm sorry that 304 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 3: it happened to you, and they tell me, don't be sorry. 305 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 3: I'm very proud of losing my legs because it's my 306 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 3: input in the victory of Ukraine. When I hear that, 307 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 3: that gives me hope. What else gives me hope? People 308 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 3: are delivering kids in this country, you know. I was 309 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 3: really surprised when I heard about my first friend who 310 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 3: was pregnant, and I was like, oh my god, people 311 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 3: still want to have kids, and she's like, of course, 312 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 3: life's go on. When I go on the streets, I 313 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 3: see food delivery. It gives me hope. You know, even 314 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 3: during air Syrians there is someone cycling, you know, delivering 315 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 3: the food because they have to be on time. That 316 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 3: gives me hope, you know. And kids go to school, 317 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 3: That gives me hope. You know, women put on makeup, 318 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 3: go to work, you know, and providing for their children 319 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 3: when men are at the war. So we didn't give up, 320 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 3: and that's enough hope to keep moving. When you see 321 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 3: that we are still alive, it gives you energy to 322 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 3: keep living, you know. I think that's how it works. 323 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 1: I think that's how it works. And it is an 324 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: existential struggle between good and evil. And when the history 325 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: of this era is written and the final victory is one, 326 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: the world will owe Ukraine and the Ukrainian people a 327 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: big debt. Augus, thank you so much. I'm going to 328 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: give you the last word. Anything else you'd like to 329 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: tell our listeners. 330 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 3: Please stand with Ukraine. We proved that we are brave, 331 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 3: but we need support of the world to keep going. 332 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 3: And we will definitely win this war. And one day 333 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 3: we're going to celebrate the victory the whole world together 334 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 3: with Ukraine. 335 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: Well, I look forward when we can get it arranged 336 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 1: to come to Ukraine and visit Superhumans and so many 337 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: of the other wonderful people we're working with at the 338 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 1: Clint Global Initiative who understand how important it is that 339 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: we stand with you. Thank you so much, Olga, and 340 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: keep doing that great work. 341 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Waiting for you at Superhumans. 342 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 3: It'll be a great present and surprise for our patients 343 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 3: and our doctors. 344 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: To find out more about Superhumans and to donate to 345 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 1: support their essential work on the ground in Ukraine. Go 346 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: to superhumans dot com. Now my next guest, I think 347 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: it's fair to say is is more of a household name. 348 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: Maybe you first saw him on the big screen in 349 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: the Scream trilogy if you're into horror films. Leev Schreiber 350 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: also wrote and directed the film Everything Is Illuminated, which 351 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: he filmed on location in Ukraine. He's also done a 352 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: lot of stage work, Shakespeare, the Classics, you name it. 353 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: But I'm talking to him today because of the remarkable 354 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: way he has stepped out onto the world stage to 355 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: lend a hand to Ukrainians. Leev is the co founder 356 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: and major cheerleader for Bluezech Ukraine, an organization that identifies 357 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: vets and fasttracks urgent financial support to Ukrainian groups providing 358 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: critical humanitarian aid on the front lines. Lee have also 359 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: joined us at CGI in September, and I'm really happy 360 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 1: to be able to speak to him again. 361 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 4: Hello Secretary Glinton. 362 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Oh, how are you doing today? 363 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 4: I'm great. We've resolved all of the technical issues. 364 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: That's always a good sign. 365 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 4: I was really good at this stuff until I hit 366 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 4: about forty and then for some reason it just stopped. 367 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 4: And now I have to find a young person, which 368 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 4: is a clear sign. 369 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: That's called evolution. It's called evolution, right, Well, thank you 370 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: so much for joining us on the podcast. I'm not 371 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: only a fan, which I will confess before we start 372 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 1: of your body of work, but I am a bigger 373 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: fan because of you, know the very smart way that 374 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: you are working to help Ukraine in its struggle against 375 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: the barbaric invasion by Russia. I would love for you 376 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 1: to tell our listeners what is Blue Check Ukraine, How 377 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: did you get involved, and what makes it different from 378 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: other aid organizations. 379 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 4: Well, the headline answer is that Blue Check is an 380 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 4: effort to fast track financial support primarily to local NGOs 381 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 4: in Ukraine. A humanitarian watchdog group out of the UK 382 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 4: called Humanitarian Outcomes, published two reports, one last June that 383 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 4: reported that of the two point six billion that had 384 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 4: been donated to Ukraine, only six million of that had 385 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 4: made it to the actual local NGOs on the ground, 386 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 4: who arguably are really doing most of the work. They 387 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 4: published a new one in May which said that one 388 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 4: percent of the donations were going to these local ENGOs 389 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 4: and so that they were recommending really figuring out ways 390 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 4: to localize aid because it's these local communities who are 391 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 4: most knowledgeable about what the needs are, how to fulfill them, 392 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 4: the language, the intelligence, the resources, the personnel, and so 393 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 4: Blue Check is really just a group of friends trying 394 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 4: to get the message through to people that the Ukrainians 395 00:23:55,320 --> 00:24:00,239 Speaker 4: are really the best equipped people to help themselves. Need 396 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 4: to do is support them, is really to continue to 397 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 4: support them. And so I got into it because a 398 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 4: friend a friend called me and I'd made a film 399 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 4: about Ukraine, and so they thought I would know something 400 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 4: about Ukraine, which I really don't. I just made a 401 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 4: film and they said how can we help? And I 402 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 4: really didn't know where to send them. So I just 403 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 4: thought the normal avenues like Red Cross and all of 404 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 4: these international aid organizations who are all doing great work. 405 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 4: The problem is that in a situation like a war, 406 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 4: it's very acute and you have to move very very quickly, 407 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 4: and a lot of these larger international aid groups, because 408 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 4: of their overhead, because of their liability, because they are 409 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 4: not always able to work in country, are a little 410 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 4: slower to react. And we've got a situation, as you 411 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 4: well know, that is very acute and we need to 412 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 4: respond as quickly as possible. 413 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: You know, there's so many important areas of need right 414 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: now in Ukraine that people can feel overwhelmed. And you 415 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 1: I've been there, talk a little bit about what you've 416 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: actually seen on the ground, because the resilience, the smarts 417 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 1: of the Ukrainian people who are trying to deliver this 418 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: aid is really impressive. 419 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 4: They're extraordinary, they really are. We have twenty two partners 420 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 4: right now. For the most part, we were looking for 421 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 4: NGOs that are in Ukraine, but we're also finding people 422 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 4: who have volunteered their services, extraordinary Americans. There's a guy 423 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 4: named Ryan Hendrickson who I am just so impressed by, 424 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 4: who is a retired Special Forces Green Beret Army guy 425 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 4: who was injured by a landmine himself and now he 426 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 4: makes these humanitarian missions to Ukraine to demine these villages, 427 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 4: which is an extraordinary service to them because obviously he's 428 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 4: really knowledgeable in this from given his experience and background. 429 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 4: There's another group called Project Victory, which is a group 430 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 4: of US veterans who have gone over there to basically 431 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 4: do everything. They initially came to teach stop bleeding techniques 432 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 4: and they've gone on to do evacuations, shelter reinforcements. When 433 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 4: the Kokova Dam was destroyed by the Russians, they were 434 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 4: our first contacts on the ground who told us that 435 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 4: we needed to get water into the populations there. And 436 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 4: because these guys our veterans, they know how to handle 437 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 4: themselves in frontline situations. You know, we pretty much have 438 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 4: a group in every oblast in the country with a 439 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 4: concentration on vulnerable populations, particularly elderly people, women and children, 440 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 4: injured civilians. We have a group called Stirrenki, which is 441 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 4: support for the elderly, which is actually quite a big 442 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 4: issue in terms of the work we do on the 443 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 4: front lines, because they're the ones who don't leave. 444 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: Explain that you talked about that at CGI, and I 445 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: think a lot of people were surprised because they might 446 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: have thought, oh, well, first get the elderly out, but 447 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: the elderly won't leave. 448 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 4: They don't want to leave. It's their land and they're there, 449 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 4: as you could understand. Actually, you know, these people have 450 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 4: built their farms and their homes on these lands, and 451 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 4: it's their land, and in their minds they're not giving 452 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 4: it up. And as you mentioned, they're very strong, resilient, 453 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 4: and I would add. 454 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: Tough people, stubborn, maybe stubborn a little bit. 455 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 4: They're not afraid of the Russians. And so unfortunately, when 456 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 4: you have these missile attacks, it's very often that you 457 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 4: see elderly people becoming displaced or losing their homes or 458 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 4: getting injured. So Sirrenki is a group that exclusively works 459 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 4: to service them, to evacuate them, to bring unfortunately because 460 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 4: most of them won't evacuate, to bring them warming kits, 461 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 4: to bring them food, to reinforce their homes, shelters, things 462 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 4: like that. And then of course you have the non 463 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 4: material support, you know, like gender specific aid groups like 464 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 4: the Women's Center, because as you probably know, the men 465 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 4: who are of fighting age are all conscripted into military service, 466 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 4: so that leaves a lot of these single moms out there, 467 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 4: and the Women's Center was an extraordinary group that was 468 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 4: team of lawyers that was really working for gender equality 469 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 4: before the war, and after the war switched over realized 470 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 4: that they needed to provide evacuation services, women's health services, counseling, 471 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 4: and things like that for mothers and children. So there's 472 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 4: a lot. They're doing a lot. 473 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: They are doing a lot, and you know, when you 474 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 1: hear the stories of what they're up against, it just 475 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: enrages me. That it does to you too, that here 476 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: we are twenty twenty three and we have a regime 477 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: led by Vladimir Putin that has committed every crime against humanity, 478 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: every war crime. And I think there's a real need 479 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: for Americans, all of us, to recognize their fight is 480 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: our fight. But what got you so motivated to help? 481 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: Because you've gone pretty far in making the case as 482 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: to why it their fight is our fight. 483 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 4: You know, I've very moved and driven in many ways 484 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 4: by my grandfather's generation, that is to say, the generation 485 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 4: of Americans who fought for democracy in World War Two. Primarily, 486 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 4: I was also very impressed by the ones who fought 487 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 4: in the Spanish American Civil war without an organized military 488 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 4: to push back against fascism, and it feels like as 489 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 4: I watched this war unfold on television with my children 490 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 4: on the couch, and I saw these sort of normal 491 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 4: looking middle aged men saying goodbye to their wives and 492 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 4: children going off to fight a war in which I'm 493 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 4: sure you and I both thought they were vastly outnumbered 494 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 4: and out gunned, and it felt they're not coming back. 495 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 4: This is really horrible. And as I thought about it, 496 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 4: what they're fighting for, sovereignty, freedom, the right to raise 497 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 4: their children the way they want to raise them, to 498 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 4: speak the language that they want to speak. Those are 499 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 4: American values, and why aren't we in this? It has 500 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 4: so little to do with me having some Ukrainian ancestry, 501 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 4: and everything to do with what I believe American values 502 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:09,959 Speaker 4: are and what our place is in the geopolitical world, 503 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 4: of what we provide, what we provide to our own citizens, 504 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 4: and the opportunity that we present to those who are persecuted. 505 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 4: And it just felt, you know, after having spent the 506 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 4: past twenty some odd years of my life being very 507 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 4: well rewarded by my career and my life here, that 508 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 4: it was the least I could do to respond to something, 509 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 4: and the minute that my celebrity, which had really done 510 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 4: nothing but break the misery to this point, and my children. 511 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 4: It makes raising children incredibly difficult, as you. 512 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: Probably, Yeah, I can relate to. 513 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 4: That extraordinary job. Yeah, it just it suddenly was paying 514 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 4: back in dividends. Like I was able to accomplish things. 515 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 4: I was able to speak to people like you. I 516 00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 4: was able to get the attention of the media, and 517 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 4: I was able to point focus where I felt focus 518 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 4: should be pointed. And that was an incredibly good feeling. 519 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: You know, it sounds very much like it was a 520 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: combination of your head and your heart. I mean, you 521 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: really brought it all together in this. And you've actually 522 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: been to Ukraine, most of our listeners, haven't. I think 523 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: you've made a film inside Ukraine. 524 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 4: Well, I've made a few. Now. Initially, what I was 525 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 4: trying to do was to sort of film the situation 526 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 4: on the ground in the hopes that I would bring 527 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 4: those films back and they would raise money. Yes, that's 528 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 4: obviously what we're trying to do, is we're trying to 529 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 4: raise money to fund these organizations. And then once I 530 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 4: got to meet President Lensky and had a couple of 531 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 4: interviews and talks with him, we decided together that making 532 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,959 Speaker 4: a documentary would be useful. So I sat down with 533 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 4: the president for a series of interviews, and Andre Singer, 534 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 4: who made a really wonderful portrait of Korbache'v, worked with 535 00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 4: me on the film. 536 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: Also has that come out yet? 537 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:01,959 Speaker 4: No, it hasn't. We've just finished. 538 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: Thank you for finishing it. I mean, it's really I 539 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: think we should flood the zone. There needs to be 540 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: as many documentaries, you know, fictional narratives that are kind 541 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: of docu dramas. 542 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 4: It's impossible for people to tell unless they've seen it, 543 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 4: unless they see it and they feel it. And that's 544 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 4: the other thing is I think that we are essentially 545 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 4: emotional creatures. And you're right to say I came in 546 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 4: with my head in my heart. I would say mostly 547 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 4: my heart, because my head is getting thicker at this 548 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 4: point in my life. 549 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: But well, you've taken a lot of blows to it 550 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: in your film career. 551 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 4: When you feel something, it's true, you know, you know 552 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 4: it exists in your bones. And that thing about seeing 553 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 4: these stories, I'm really I can't begin to say how 554 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 4: impressed I am by the Ukrainian people, and also how 555 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 4: concerned I am that they're getting tired and that we 556 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 4: need to continue to support them. 557 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. You know, when you talk about 558 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: what you're doing and the fact that you met President Zelenski, 559 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: describe for our listeners what you thought of him. This 560 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: Youngish man who you know somewhat improbably got elected president 561 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: in the first place, then gets thrust into wartime leadership. 562 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: And I see you grinning on the video. 563 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 4: Well, no one was expecting President Zelenski's response. No one 564 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 4: was expecting that level of courage. I grinned because we 565 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 4: shared a profession. And you know people say such awful 566 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 4: things about actors, Well here's one, here's one who proved 567 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 4: his metal. But no one was expecting that level of courage, frankly, 568 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 4: and it's exactly what the world. It's not just what 569 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 4: Ukraine need, it's what the world needed. Those principles and 570 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 4: that dignity. That little recording that he made on his 571 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 4: phone after the first night, smiling with the other generals, 572 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 4: saying yatut moitut at these words in Ukrainians you probably know, 573 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 4: mean we are here. I'm here, the President's here, We're 574 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 4: not going anywhere, and the part that resonated for me. Moitut, 575 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 4: we're here, We're here together. That's what matters, that we 576 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 4: can face this down, we can stand down bullies. He's 577 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 4: not a tall guy, you know. Most people know him 578 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 4: as one of the funniest actors to ever come out 579 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 4: of the entertainment industry in Ukraine, and super talented, super intelligent, 580 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 4: but not Henry the Fifth. And here he had the intelligence, 581 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 4: he had the dignity, he had the humanity to make 582 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 4: the right choice. He knew what the right choice was, 583 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 4: that some things are worth putting your life on the 584 00:34:55,560 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 4: line for. And for me that resonated so deeply with 585 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 4: my American values and the patriots in our history and 586 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 4: our life who made our lives possible. I owe them 587 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 4: a debt, you know, and I owe people like him 588 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 4: a debt. And so I was incredibly honored to get 589 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 4: to meet him. And Madame Zelenska, as you know, as 590 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,839 Speaker 4: well as also extraordinary. 591 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: In her own she really is too. You mentioned that 592 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: you were watching Ukraine coverage with your children. I know 593 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:27,839 Speaker 1: you've just had a new baby, so I assume it's 594 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: your two older children, right, Yes, that sounded so important 595 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 1: to me that you were watching with your children and 596 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 1: talking to them about what they were seeing. What was 597 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 1: that experience likelyav. 598 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 4: I have to admit that it was a selfish one 599 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 4: that I was looking at these people serving their country 600 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 4: and I was thinking what have I done as I 601 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 4: sat there with my kids, and how could I explain 602 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 4: our lives in a way that made sense to them? 603 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 4: But I also I think it was important to expose 604 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 4: them to the situation. They were old enough, in my opinion, 605 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 4: Guy was thirteen and Sasha was fifteen to understand it, 606 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 4: or at least to ask questions and to understand who 607 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 4: we are and by that I don't mean Ukrainian. By that, 608 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 4: I mean Americans and where we fit into something like this, 609 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 4: and what we do when this kind of barbarism. You know, 610 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 4: the military strategy that he's employing that attacks not just 611 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 4: civilian infrastructure but medical infrastructure. 612 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: That's right, hospitals. 613 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 4: Intentionally, Which is why we really, really really need to 614 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 4: keep our eye on Ukraine and to continue to help 615 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 4: our brothers and sisters who are fighting for those values. 616 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 1: Amen, Well, I can't thank you enough for stepping up 617 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: and stepping into this important matter and using your reach 618 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: to try to keep us all focused on what's really important. 619 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,320 Speaker 1: Thank you so very. 620 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:05,720 Speaker 4: Much, Thank you, Madam Secretary. 621 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 1: To learn more about the work Blue Check Ukraine is doing, 622 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: or to make a donation that they can get directly 623 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 1: into the hands of people on the ground in Ukraine 624 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: doing essential work, go to blue Check dot in. 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