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Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross, Welcome
Speaker 1: to the show. Here we go another week of football
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Speaker 1: I am here at the Star and the s WBC
Speaker 1: mortgage office of Derek Eagleton, once again, joined by my
Speaker 1: co host Kurt Daniels, Nate Newton, Jesse. How are you
Speaker 1: fellas doing? I'm doing great, man, I'm excited. But you
Speaker 1: say taking the color? You got color? You got me, Jesse,
Speaker 1: Kurt and checking the color baby, I'm geep me. And
Speaker 1: they got original color. You got that spray tan color. Though,
Speaker 1: I tell you what. We we got these sweet set
Speaker 1: up for our podcast, for our show, since it looks
Speaker 1: like we might be doing them from home for a
Speaker 1: little bit. We got these nice fancy microphones. Chris, you
Speaker 1: know Chris Beam dropped him off to us. Beam st
Speaker 1: We got h We got these nice little lights and
Speaker 1: I turned my light on right before we came on
Speaker 1: the air, and I looked straight into it and I
Speaker 1: still cannot see, Like that thing is bright and it's small.
Speaker 1: It's only like that bigger round. I am struggling right now.
Speaker 1: So so much to talk about. First off, did y'all
Speaker 1: have a good weekend? How was yalls weekends? My week
Speaker 1: you was good? Can I turn on my light? Good? Thing?
Speaker 1: You got that Nate's broadcasting closet? Yes, sir, you better
Speaker 1: know it. How about you, Jess? How Derek let you
Speaker 1: back in there? Well, he doesn't know I'm in here,
Speaker 1: so and he doesn't know what's missing. He didn't take
Speaker 1: a good inventory. So if y'all, if y'all see something
Speaker 1: behind me that you like, Um, if you see something
Speaker 1: over there that you won't let me know, and I'll
Speaker 1: i'll might be able to borrow it permanently. Take all
Speaker 1: If he got into que doll paraphrom there, you take
Speaker 1: that out of you. Oh no, you do not mess
Speaker 1: with that stuff. You do not mess with that, Jess.
Speaker 1: How you do it? Brother? I'm good man, had a
Speaker 1: great weekend. I'm happy it's Monday. I got a little
Speaker 1: joy inside of me. Read a good word this morning.
Speaker 1: But when I got up and I'm ready, I'm ready
Speaker 1: to talk some football. Man. I'm happy. I'm always happy
Speaker 1: to see you guys. Well, I'm wonderful to see you too,
Speaker 1: jes Let's let's just get into it, man, let's go.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw it out there. I know everybody wants
Speaker 1: to talk about. Are we getting this man or not
Speaker 1: good idea or a bad idea? What are we doing?
Speaker 1: The fans are going crazy. Cuss us out, come, cuss
Speaker 1: us out. We need you well, you know stands. What
Speaker 1: do you guys think signed him? Don't sign him? What
Speaker 1: are you thinking? I'm letting Jesse go curse on that one? Well,
Speaker 1: I'm letting Kurt go first. You guys have seen practice,
Speaker 1: may know better. But the report you're sounding like Clinton
Speaker 1: Dix isn't playing very well and Darian Thompson could be
Speaker 1: your second starting safety. I don't know, are you feeling
Speaker 1: good about that one? Um? You know, Thomas sounds like
Speaker 1: he's got a lot of baggage with him, so I
Speaker 1: don't know. It better be a sweet, sweet deal for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, you know, uh, you know, I've got to
Speaker 1: see a few practices thanks to Nick eating and the guys,
Speaker 1: you know, and and Derek though and uh, Shannon, you
Speaker 1: didn't have anything to do with it. But anyway, Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I think these coaches are liking Darien too.
Speaker 1: He ran a lot Sunday with with with the first team. Uh.
Speaker 1: But I heard him. I heard coach Nolan Holland some
Speaker 1: positives at how Clinton Dick. So we'll see, man, the
Speaker 1: competition is thick at a few positions and a few
Speaker 1: positions I found out the competition ain't even what we
Speaker 1: thought it would be, you know. So because they get
Speaker 1: they feel good about certain guys due to this pandemic
Speaker 1: and uh speth on the young guys. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: they got thirty one in there, Treyvon Diggs, he's working. Uh.
Speaker 1: But other than that, the other rookies, man, they just
Speaker 1: getting in where they fit in at. But for me,
Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a complicated thing for me because
Speaker 1: you think we always remember what Earl Thomas was when
Speaker 1: he was with the Legion of Boom and Seattle, just
Speaker 1: how good of a player he was. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that he's fallen off a lot, but he's fallen off
Speaker 1: something that just happens with age and time that you
Speaker 1: lose some of that productivity, some of that ability to
Speaker 1: go out there and be just a supernatural athlete. And
Speaker 1: my biggest thing is when you're trying to create a
Speaker 1: new culture. When you brought in Freaky Mike and the crew,
Speaker 1: you're you're trying to create this entirely new culture with
Speaker 1: guys who the coaching staff is kind of still unfamiliar with.
Speaker 1: They met him, you know, via online, but this is
Speaker 1: the first chance they got a chance to be with
Speaker 1: them hands on. And so when you're trying to create
Speaker 1: that culture and you're trying to have those personalities come
Speaker 1: to the forefront. And we've seen this team in the
Speaker 1: past before that when it comes to leadership, they don't
Speaker 1: have the alpha dogs that Nate you had in the nineties,
Speaker 1: right because we saw guys come in who's been here
Speaker 1: for five or six days and all of a sudden
Speaker 1: they lead the team. And we know the guys that
Speaker 1: you played with Nate and other teams with a come
Speaker 1: in and said, hold on, young fellow. You know, hold on,
Speaker 1: my guy. We appreciate you being here. But I do
Speaker 1: the hooting hollerand around here, I tell folks who are
Speaker 1: to go So now what you have to always have
Speaker 1: in the back of your mind is if you let
Speaker 1: a guy like Earl Thomas come into this fold, who
Speaker 1: seems to be one of those guys who is a
Speaker 1: dominant alpha male, what message is he's sending you got guys,
Speaker 1: you're trying to get acclimated, guys, you're trying to bring
Speaker 1: a long system, you're trying to input things that you're
Speaker 1: trying to get figured out. And when you add an
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas to that mix, and from what the reports
Speaker 1: have been saying, from what he was and Baltimore was,
Speaker 1: he just beginning to do his own thing. He kind
Speaker 1: of almost went rogue, showing up late for meetings, being
Speaker 1: contentious with his teammates, doing his own thing. If that's
Speaker 1: the kind of culture that you want to input into
Speaker 1: your you know, that kind of adds to you want
Speaker 1: to input into your culture, then you could be setting
Speaker 1: yourself up for disaster. So it kind of comes to
Speaker 1: that point where does his talent outweigh all of the
Speaker 1: other things that comes, all the other baggage. And if
Speaker 1: the answer is closer to know than a resounding guest,
Speaker 1: then I stay away from a guy like that, and
Speaker 1: I just go forward with the guys that I have,
Speaker 1: because it's much easier to get those guys to kind
Speaker 1: of do what we need to get done. Maybe not
Speaker 1: as a maybe maybe not be more as athletic as
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas, but they're gonna be where up they're supposed
Speaker 1: to be, be there own time, have the right attitude,
Speaker 1: have the right culture viewpoint, and and and and you know,
Speaker 1: be assigned aligned, and just do their job and not
Speaker 1: try to go off script like we've seen and heard
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas was doing in Baltimore. Uh. And so that's
Speaker 1: where I'm at with that. I'm not I'm not a
Speaker 1: I wasn't a huge fan of signing him when he
Speaker 1: left Seattle. I'm not a huge fan of signing him now.
Speaker 1: The thing with him is just as he's not. I
Speaker 1: watched him play a little bit last year because I
Speaker 1: like to follow guys who i've fans seem to go
Speaker 1: overboard with, and I follow him. He's not that guy anymore.
Speaker 1: And when you start showing up late and not being
Speaker 1: the guy you was in Seattle, everybody, everybody knows that
Speaker 1: you've fallen off a liit physically, but they wanted that
Speaker 1: leadership that you brought in Seattle, that promptness, stood attention
Speaker 1: to detail. You went off on this guy about him
Speaker 1: probably blowing us sigmon or vice versus. We don't know
Speaker 1: the inside stir on that, but you took it too far.
Speaker 1: So what you're telling the Ravens is your services are
Speaker 1: no longer needed because they have a culture of toughness,
Speaker 1: of doing the right thing, of playing great defense. Here
Speaker 1: with the Dallas Cowboys. What I felt we lost over time, Jesse,
Speaker 1: you may you can bite into this is we lost
Speaker 1: the voice in the room with the coaches. The coaches
Speaker 1: here are trying to establish themselves and who they are.
Speaker 1: They are the alpha males right now, and they will
Speaker 1: let as this team go, they will find their own
Speaker 1: alt for males, guys that they can trust to step
Speaker 1: up and say and do the right thing, much like
Speaker 1: Jimmy did. We when Jimmy got here, nobody was alt
Speaker 1: for mail. But as time went on, the Emmett Smells,
Speaker 1: the Charles Hayles, the Tony's Holbers, Troy Agmans, they stepped
Speaker 1: up and went into the leadership roles. And I think
Speaker 1: that's what they want. They When you have a bad
Speaker 1: report as a veteran player, especially one that's making a
Speaker 1: lot of money and not living up to that production
Speaker 1: of that money. No, you don't bring him here. And
Speaker 1: I'm always be excited about a player. But does he
Speaker 1: fit I don't think not right now. Maybe maybe coach
Speaker 1: can talk to him. Freaky Mike has a way of
Speaker 1: talking to guys and getting them settle down. But to
Speaker 1: know what, I couldn't trust Thomas at this time. Who
Speaker 1: do y'all think? Go ahead, shall Well, you're gonna to
Speaker 1: expound on that, curt Are You're just gonna say, hey,
Speaker 1: I think you'll bring up a great point. I don't
Speaker 1: want to cut off our favor. I think y'all, Hey,
Speaker 1: I think y'all brought up some great points. Stop go ahead,
Speaker 1: and my point, I mean, my point is exactly your point.
Speaker 1: I guess I hadn't thought about it in terms of
Speaker 1: the leadership aspect. But I mean they have some young
Speaker 1: guys who are trying to develop now as leaders of
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith. I mean, does he get affected by that,
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence? Does he get affected by that? I just
Speaker 1: I'm agreeing with you guys, is that I don't know
Speaker 1: if the talent there is worth it anymore. To potentially
Speaker 1: disrupt what McCarthy's trying to build, what this defense is
Speaker 1: trying to build. I mean, Jaylen had some quotes yesterday
Speaker 1: or over the weekend about, you know, the defense has
Speaker 1: something to prove and he wants to be a leader
Speaker 1: in that, and according to reports, in practice, he's doing
Speaker 1: exactly that. He's playing ball. So I would hate to
Speaker 1: disrupt any of where this team has headed, what this
Speaker 1: team is building by bringing in the guy that you know,
Speaker 1: he left seat under bad terms and you know, apparently
Speaker 1: got in a fight with a teammate in Baltimore and
Speaker 1: like they said, you know, in late to practice and
Speaker 1: all that, I mean not apparent, not apparently not yea,
Speaker 1: not apparently. Yeah, but you don't. You just can't bring
Speaker 1: that into this this situation where got a you know,
Speaker 1: Harbo and that that already established regime there can't control
Speaker 1: or keep you know, they're him from affecting their locker room.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how a new one can either, you know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think Yeah. To expand on that, I think one
Speaker 1: of the weirdest feeling things on game day last year
Speaker 1: was when they brought in Michael Bennett and and he
Speaker 1: stepped up towards the end of the year and became
Speaker 1: a vocal leader on the team when you kind of thought, okay,
Speaker 1: the vocal leaders are these guys, and he kind of
Speaker 1: stepped in and you know, would would break down the huddle,
Speaker 1: and he was very vocal in the locker room and like,
Speaker 1: like really vocal, like you could hear him yelling outside
Speaker 1: of the locker room sometimes. And to me, that was
Speaker 1: a really weird vibe because you had built this team
Speaker 1: and you had kind of got your guys in there,
Speaker 1: and then another guy comes in that that was new
Speaker 1: to the team and was very you know, outspoken and
Speaker 1: a very alpha, alpha male type guy, and to me,
Speaker 1: it just you know, I'm obviously not in the locker room,
Speaker 1: but just being around the team, it was just a
Speaker 1: strange vibe, and I wonder, you know, obviously this would
Speaker 1: be a little different because it's at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the season and not in the middle of the season,
Speaker 1: but it's kind of the same premise. You bring a
Speaker 1: very outspoken, you know, dominant guy in a locker room
Speaker 1: and it changes the whole dynamic when you've you've built
Speaker 1: it with the guys that you want here. So I'm
Speaker 1: from that standpoint, I'm kind of like, hey, let's just
Speaker 1: let's see what you got. You got this team, you
Speaker 1: you built it in the offseason. You got your guys
Speaker 1: in here. Now, if the guy can play and play
Speaker 1: his lights out, obviously that changes a lot. If a
Speaker 1: guy can, you know, come in and he's the best
Speaker 1: of his position. Um, but I just I'm kind of like, you, guys,
Speaker 1: why why mess with it? Why messed with the chemistry
Speaker 1: when you have your established leaders in the locker room.
Speaker 1: If you're not bringing in Lebron yeah, I mean honest,
Speaker 1: I mean, because you just don't need him, you know it.
Speaker 1: And it probably it probably wasn't a long discussion. You know,
Speaker 1: it probably wasn't a long discussion. We probably gave it
Speaker 1: more conversations than they did, you know, because coach McCarthy
Speaker 1: made a statement, we're confident in our eighty guys. Is
Speaker 1: that not what he says? I mean, y'all've read something,
Speaker 1: you know, some statements. Well, he said he's contact with
Speaker 1: his eighty guys. With that said, though, not to say
Speaker 1: that behind work closed not to say behind closed doors,
Speaker 1: y'all know, Like, oh, Nate, you gotta eat your words. Uh,
Speaker 1: we got we got talking, but still said, are you guys,
Speaker 1: how was it with Clinton when you guys were worried
Speaker 1: about the position that you knew was a a vocal
Speaker 1: guy and he was gonna change the dynamic of the
Speaker 1: locker room. What were the conversations among players? Did you
Speaker 1: guys even care? Were you just like whatever? Or were
Speaker 1: there conversations of like, hey, you know this is gonna change,
Speaker 1: or hey, you know this guy's gonna challenge this guy
Speaker 1: or things like that. How is it as players when
Speaker 1: you know that a new guy might be coming in?
Speaker 1: This is how it was for me because we I
Speaker 1: experienced that with Charles Haley. When you see Jimmy with
Speaker 1: bring guys in. Jimmy liked to bring guys in the
Speaker 1: just let him hang out. He will say, hey, Mike,
Speaker 1: come get this guy. Got him over here, He'll let
Speaker 1: it if he's serious about he would let him hang
Speaker 1: out with us and watch how we worked and how
Speaker 1: we do things. How this guy mashed with other guys,
Speaker 1: but Charles Haley he was getting regardless of what we thought.
Speaker 1: Because all Jimmy wanted to know was did he love football?
Speaker 1: And was he went in to work and rushed the
Speaker 1: passer and all those criterias was met. He brought Charles
Speaker 1: in and the first time we got in a team setting,
Speaker 1: Charles just started giving out advice, whether it was wanted
Speaker 1: or wounded. He started scouting everybody. I mean, he broke
Speaker 1: down the whole locker room, every player that he thought
Speaker 1: was an intricate part of his team. He broke it down.
Speaker 1: He broke them down, he scouted them and cussed us
Speaker 1: all out as he did it. Now, the day's locker
Speaker 1: rooms can't handle that, and I promise you ain't. But
Speaker 1: a few locker rooms can handle that type of guy.
Speaker 1: But we can handle that guy because we know who
Speaker 1: we were and we know what we were about, and
Speaker 1: that's winning games. So that was a difference, Jesse. And
Speaker 1: maybe you have a different experience than me. No, I
Speaker 1: think the same thing that you said, Nate, which I
Speaker 1: think rings true through a lot of locker rooms. In
Speaker 1: the locker room that I was in, several locker room
Speaker 1: that I was in, the biggest thing is the biggest
Speaker 1: thing is it's can you help us? Like, can you
Speaker 1: help us and win football games? If that's that's a yes, right,
Speaker 1: then everything else we can adjust with. But if you're
Speaker 1: if if that's the first thing that you want to
Speaker 1: see when a new guy comes there and you go, Okay,
Speaker 1: I've seen all this, guys, and then you start looking
Speaker 1: at his work ethic, what is he doing in practice
Speaker 1: and meetings? And can he help us win? Because what
Speaker 1: you don't want, you don't want the distractions to come
Speaker 1: in because you're already saying it's hard enough to do
Speaker 1: what we do and to get wins. And when we
Speaker 1: bring somebody else in who ain't really with us, who
Speaker 1: ain't been with us for instead of big amount of time,
Speaker 1: and you're a distraction. But then that's when you come
Speaker 1: a little bit of an outcast. But guys want to
Speaker 1: know can this guy help us win? Because everyone understands
Speaker 1: that there's a fine window of opportunity that you have
Speaker 1: to play in this league to win football games and
Speaker 1: win at a high rate. So if a guy can
Speaker 1: come in and does it it can play and does
Speaker 1: it kill our chemistry, then he's welcomed in, you know.
Speaker 1: And you look at a guy like Charles Halley, and
Speaker 1: Charles may have come in and cussed everybody out, but
Speaker 1: Charles came in and he went to work, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So his productivity was at a level
Speaker 1: where you say, you know what, it's maybe not the
Speaker 1: dude that we want to always be friends with, but
Speaker 1: I want them on my team on Sunday. And that's
Speaker 1: the kind of thing that you got to be able
Speaker 1: to differentiate when you're talking about the guys in the
Speaker 1: locker room at different positions and so on and so forth.
Speaker 1: So you know, and that's the thing is that what
Speaker 1: a lot of times is is the talent worth the
Speaker 1: tolerance of whatever they bring. England when you went to
Speaker 1: New England, man, your talent was so great on the
Speaker 1: special team that hey, Belichicks and we could put up
Speaker 1: with Jesse, right. You see, I ain't stay long. Wasn't
Speaker 1: good enough, Kurt, Kurt, you drought up earlier Jalen and
Speaker 1: you know he's he's been having a good training camp
Speaker 1: so far. And you know, we know that the issues
Speaker 1: that Sean Lee's had was staying on the field. And
Speaker 1: then you know, Layton, we'll see what happens with with
Speaker 1: his health issues. Jalen's been doing some great things off
Speaker 1: the field as entrepreneurs Approach entrepreneurship program that that he
Speaker 1: started this year. It was just really cool thing that
Speaker 1: he did, and he's doing a lot of stuff off
Speaker 1: the field. Is he ready to take that step and
Speaker 1: become a leader on this defense and step up and
Speaker 1: be in the same conversation as a Tyrone Crawford and
Speaker 1: and a DeMarcus Lawrence and those type guys, because you know,
Speaker 1: if Sean Lee and Laton have a hard time getting
Speaker 1: on the field, he's going to be a guy that
Speaker 1: these some of these younger guys look up to because
Speaker 1: he's been on the team for quite a few years now.
Speaker 1: Is he ready to take that step? And is he
Speaker 1: that guy? Is he ready? I think I think Nate's
Speaker 1: shaking his head. Let me say this, man, I've watched
Speaker 1: him and he is practicing lights out. Yaya, don't do
Speaker 1: nothing for me? Does a lot for me? Okay? And
Speaker 1: who was beating Jaylor's horn two years ago? More than me?
Speaker 1: I go by what I see in games. Jayalen can
Speaker 1: go back to that guy two years ago easily because
Speaker 1: he has athletic skills and he has the will to
Speaker 1: do it. Now. Jayleen has been looking good in practice
Speaker 1: the three or four I've seen, he's looked good. Lateness
Speaker 1: came up and it's not been live, but he's came
Speaker 1: up and stuck his his head and his shoulders and
Speaker 1: everything into the little bit they've done. Both of these
Speaker 1: guys combined can be something truly special, especially when they
Speaker 1: get pulled back in there full time. But right now
Speaker 1: he's doing everything perfect. And the reason I'm shaking my
Speaker 1: head is not that I can't believe that he can't
Speaker 1: be a leader. But if under the direction of playing
Speaker 1: well through these coaches scheme and they're gonna put him
Speaker 1: in position and make plays, and if Jalen stole back
Speaker 1: chackling the way we saw two years ago, and you'd
Speaker 1: be like, Yeah, ain't nobody gonna doot his horn bigger
Speaker 1: than me? But right now, no, until I see it. No.
Speaker 1: Last year he got some criticism for a kind of
Speaker 1: freelancing a little too much. Well to move to weak side.
Speaker 1: Help that because he can roam a little more, is
Speaker 1: Kurt let me slow done? The coaches were not tolerated.
Speaker 1: I don't think the coaches would tolerate the freelancing unless
Speaker 1: you prove to them that you are instinctive enough to win.
Speaker 1: You freelance seventy percent of the time you win the
Speaker 1: great I can't pronounce the kid name, y'all help me
Speaker 1: to get this safety for the Stillers, Oh well, I
Speaker 1: the model. Yeah and Earl Thomas when they were in
Speaker 1: their prime at safeties, they would freelance a lot and
Speaker 1: coaches would never say nothing because seventy five the eighty
Speaker 1: percent of the time they were spot on making plays.
Speaker 1: If Jayalen exhibits that, then coach would be like, okay,
Speaker 1: what did you see? You explain, They're like okay, cool,
Speaker 1: I understand, but what did you see? And you ain't
Speaker 1: made a tackle all game? And you're like, well, I
Speaker 1: saw this. What did the defense say? What was your assignment?
Speaker 1: Jesse speak on this? Please? No, you're hitting it right
Speaker 1: on the head. That's the that's the that's the catalyst
Speaker 1: for Jaylen Smith is we don't need the raw rod.
Speaker 1: We got enough. Ra Roy guys, we don't need enough.
Speaker 1: We don't need all the words and the speeches and
Speaker 1: all that just swiping all that kind of stuff. For Jayleen,
Speaker 1: it his leadership comes with the productivity. Can you go
Speaker 1: out there and make plays at your position, That's all
Speaker 1: we care about, That's all your teammates are going to
Speaker 1: care about. And then once you do that, because we
Speaker 1: see we get a chance to sit on these shows
Speaker 1: for an hour and talk this and that, XS and
Speaker 1: those and all that kind of stuff. But Jayala is
Speaker 1: sitting in the meeting room with his teammates and they're
Speaker 1: watching the film with him and seeing him freelance and
Speaker 1: be wrong and be out of position and miss tackles,
Speaker 1: and they're like, damn, bro, I mean cool, you know it.
Speaker 1: We cool and were cool and all. But you know
Speaker 1: if your message falls on deaf ears. When I'm sitting
Speaker 1: in a meeting room with you and I see your
Speaker 1: screw ups and then you come out and tell me,
Speaker 1: come on, we gotta be great today, I'm looking at
Speaker 1: you like damn. But in practice what your priest brother like,
Speaker 1: you've been great. First, before you tell me to be great,
Speaker 1: you go out, head in, lineup and be where you're
Speaker 1: supposed to be and make the tackles cover guys. And
Speaker 1: then once you do that, man, you could tell me.
Speaker 1: You could tell me that annexation of Puerto Rico and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna listen to you. You can tell me every
Speaker 1: you can read to me the back of a paint can,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to listen to you. But you can't.
Speaker 1: You can't sit here and be the leader of me,
Speaker 1: of another grown man. You can't leave me when I'm
Speaker 1: sitting here watching you in film be trash. And I'm
Speaker 1: not taking personal shots at Jail, and I'm just giving
Speaker 1: you what it looks like when you're sitting in a
Speaker 1: meeting room and they get to see every single snap
Speaker 1: dissected over and over and over again, whether that be
Speaker 1: in the defensive meeting room or when you go to
Speaker 1: the linebacker meeting room. Because offensively, you know we're in
Speaker 1: a team meeting. You know we may we may watch
Speaker 1: every play, but then you know it gets broken down
Speaker 1: again in your offensive meeting, and it gets broken out
Speaker 1: of getting your position meeting. So it's gonna be hard
Speaker 1: for my leader at the receiver group to tell me
Speaker 1: I need to do X, Y and Z with my routes.
Speaker 1: When you ain't doing X, Y, Z and your routes,
Speaker 1: that message falls on deaf ears. So the leadership part
Speaker 1: for Jailing is yes, showing up every day, being a
Speaker 1: leader on practice, being a leader in the meetings. But
Speaker 1: when we turn that film on broad when we turn
Speaker 1: that film on baby boy, you've got to be where
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be fifty four Every single time. Before
Speaker 1: you can start telling me where I need to be.
Speaker 1: You gotta go ahead, get the spec out of your
Speaker 1: own eye, for you are about the log in mind
Speaker 1: and you see a big enough you need to be
Speaker 1: right now is heading into a commercial break, Kurt. Sorry
Speaker 1: to cut you off, but as the leader of this
Speaker 1: podcast today, I am leading us into break so we
Speaker 1: can pay bills. Hold that thought, Kurt, because I know
Speaker 1: I know, Kurt, don't. You don't have many thoughts on
Speaker 1: this show, so I'm sorry that I just cut you
Speaker 1: off from one. So hang on to that. We would
Speaker 1: get to it when we come back from this cartial
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Speaker 1: the season. All right, You're welcome, sir. Do you want
Speaker 1: to you want to expand on your thought or do
Speaker 1: you do you remember? Well? I just had I had
Speaker 1: a question, and maybe we want to move on or not.
Speaker 1: But just from the first segment, two questions. Really, I mean,
Speaker 1: oh my god, we let you expand on a thought.
Speaker 1: Then you have one question. Now you got two questions.
Speaker 1: You hijacking the whole show. I'm just trying to set
Speaker 1: you guys up to talk more. That's all so one.
Speaker 1: I mean, we all this talk about Earl Thomas. The
Speaker 1: flip side is are you worried about Clinton? Dis I
Speaker 1: mean safety again, seems like it could be an issue.
Speaker 1: And then along with that is Jalen. Well, let's let's
Speaker 1: just start with that. I'll get to the other question later.
Speaker 1: Are you worried at all about safety? Not right now?
Speaker 1: I'm not not yet, not yet, nope, no, no, no, oh,
Speaker 1: that's simple enough. I want to give these players with
Speaker 1: I want to give these players with this this culture
Speaker 1: staff and this culture staff with these players an opportunity
Speaker 1: to show with something. Thank you you m all right?
Speaker 1: I guess it's uh. The disadvantage though, is you're not
Speaker 1: going to see something until you're what two three weeks
Speaker 1: into the regular season and that preseason right about? What
Speaker 1: what about Jayleen? Shannon? Scare you? What about Jayleen that
Speaker 1: you have to ask that? Well? My other question about
Speaker 1: Jayleen simply was this he I mean, you still got
Speaker 1: some questions marks a linebacker with the vander Ess. You're
Speaker 1: not sure what is health is going to be, shan
Speaker 1: Lee haven't even practiced yet. And after that, you know,
Speaker 1: you're not sure what you have. You got some some
Speaker 1: good role players and like Thomas, but is Jalen good
Speaker 1: enough talent than he can kind of carry that group
Speaker 1: or is that another troublesome spot. The talent of Jalen Smith.
Speaker 1: We've seen flashes of it, right. We saw what he
Speaker 1: was at Notre Dame pre injury. We saw him get
Speaker 1: back post injury, and you see these magnificent, magnificent flashes
Speaker 1: of a guy who can be sideline a sideline He's
Speaker 1: built like someone put them together in the lab, and
Speaker 1: you just want more consistency. It's always for me with
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith. Can you be consistent? Can that talent? Can
Speaker 1: that talent and productivity consistently meet and be on a
Speaker 1: high level, Like Nate was saying about the safety play,
Speaker 1: can you be on a high level seventy eight ninety
Speaker 1: percent of the time. Yes, you're gonna make mistakes. This
Speaker 1: is there's no perfect player that's ever played this game.
Speaker 1: But you can't make the critical mistakes in situations consistently.
Speaker 1: And we've seen that from Jaalen too often that in
Speaker 1: moments where we need you to be correct, what we
Speaker 1: need you to make the tackle, what we need you
Speaker 1: to be in good coverage, you come up short and
Speaker 1: then we see flashes of like, oh man, if we
Speaker 1: can get that player right there, like the dude that
Speaker 1: just ran from one hash mark to the sideline and
Speaker 1: covered the receiver. Can we get that. That's the biggest
Speaker 1: thing about Jail. It's the talent. We've seen flashes. But
Speaker 1: in this league, especially being a starter, being a flash
Speaker 1: and the playing pipe player is not something that we
Speaker 1: can you can't depend on it. A coach can't depend
Speaker 1: on it. A defense can't depend on it, the teammates
Speaker 1: can't depend on it. And that's the kind of player
Speaker 1: that keeps coaches up at night when saying, man is
Speaker 1: the hell of a talent, But is he going to
Speaker 1: be where he's supposed to be and do what he's
Speaker 1: supposed to do every single time? That's the biggest thing.
Speaker 1: See a guy that can make or break this defense? Yes, no, no, yes.
Speaker 1: And the reason I'm saying no is I don't think
Speaker 1: they'll let him. See he don't have the same and Jesse,
Speaker 1: you can correct me, but I don't think he has
Speaker 1: the same pool that he had last year. Well I
Speaker 1: would say yes, he can hurt this team when you
Speaker 1: missed three and four attackers the game, I don't think.
Speaker 1: I think I think they would take a shot with
Speaker 1: a young guy like Francis Bernard, number forty four, Luke Gifford,
Speaker 1: who's who's who's coming up banging pretty good the last
Speaker 1: few practices. By scene, I think they're like, you know what,
Speaker 1: come on, come on, guy, this is your going into
Speaker 1: your second year of starting. Come on, we expect better.
Speaker 1: So but they're gonna have to give everybody three or
Speaker 1: four games being no training camp for its preseason games,
Speaker 1: no hard banging. They haven't had a scrimmage. They've done
Speaker 1: they do they bang a little bit, but they didn't.
Speaker 1: They an't. Nobody's smashing nobody. So I think they'll giv
Speaker 1: him opportunity. But I don't think the ropist is loan
Speaker 1: for any guy, you know, and maybe the money dictate
Speaker 1: that it does, but I don't think these she just
Speaker 1: want to go through that. So I'm saying And the
Speaker 1: reason I say yes, I was just gonna say, Nate,
Speaker 1: you're you're saying that the leasha is shorter here, that
Speaker 1: this coaching staff, if he has a bad you know,
Speaker 1: two or three games in a row, they wouldn't hesitate
Speaker 1: to bencham Yeah, to do something because if you if
Speaker 1: you allow this what message Jery you're seeing, Okay, man,
Speaker 1: you are untouchable, go ahead on do your thing. What
Speaker 1: then you ask another guy, No, I don't think it's
Speaker 1: gonna work that way. That's why I'm saying no, That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And the reason why I say yes
Speaker 1: is because I think this culture staff, when you look
Speaker 1: at Nolan and McCarthy, what they've done in the off
Speaker 1: season has seen the flashes that we've all seen, and
Speaker 1: they're saying, man, we're gonna put a lot on this
Speaker 1: guy to produce in his third year, and if he
Speaker 1: does it, then we are required now to do something
Speaker 1: about it. And now you have to put guys in
Speaker 1: who aren't used to being starters. That breaks your defense down.
Speaker 1: And for me, like Jalen, playing at Jaalen's best consistently
Speaker 1: can make this defense one that is unstoppable. Jalen not
Speaker 1: being in there, and I'm having even putting one of
Speaker 1: the guy the guy in the names that Nate just mentioned,
Speaker 1: Guys who aren't used to playing forty fifty snaps a game,
Speaker 1: Guys who aren't used to going up against a Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: m A A Drew Brees, and they haven't been able
Speaker 1: to hear those things happen, and they're now having to
Speaker 1: learn on the run, which again hurts your defense because
Speaker 1: you're getting to a crucial moment and because those players
Speaker 1: haven't been putting those positions before. Those quarterbacks then abuse them,
Speaker 1: those running backs then abusing those Titans don't abuse them
Speaker 1: because they haven't been in it. So I think that's
Speaker 1: why to make a break with Jalen that if he's good.
Speaker 1: If he's good Jalen and on point Jalen and consistent Jalen,
Speaker 1: this defense could be one that's unstoppable. If you have
Speaker 1: to remove him from the field because he's just not
Speaker 1: that guy, and you have to bring in one of
Speaker 1: these guys who and now maybe you go get a
Speaker 1: guy off the off the street to bring him in,
Speaker 1: a veteran guy. I know the guy like in Philadelphia, Nigel.
Speaker 1: He's an available linebacker guy. He's a guy who has
Speaker 1: skins on the wall. But if you have to go
Speaker 1: one of these other backup guys to be your starter,
Speaker 1: that that that makes your defense, That puts a hole
Speaker 1: in your defense more than it does anything else. I agree.
Speaker 1: But but they but they're gonna try to use Jalen
Speaker 1: in so many different ways to if this cat don't
Speaker 1: be effective, I would be shocked. They're gonna try to
Speaker 1: give him so many opportunities and put him in so
Speaker 1: many positions to win. If he don't. Man, Wow, jes
Speaker 1: don't don't even go there, brother, go there. Man, You're
Speaker 1: you're telling the truth. Now he's telling the truth. But
Speaker 1: I'm just saying they're gonna give him ever opportunity and
Speaker 1: put him in so many positions to win. They are
Speaker 1: they are I just realized yesterday. And I don't know
Speaker 1: because I guess because it's such a weird year and
Speaker 1: we're kind of in a holding pattern on a lot
Speaker 1: of things, and we're trying to wait see how things
Speaker 1: shake out, and you know, from a you know, just
Speaker 1: a I guess an operational standpoint, You know, Kurt, are
Speaker 1: we going to be in the office next week? Are
Speaker 1: we going to get to do this? And that that
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that the seasons in three weeks fellas
Speaker 1: like the season starts in three weeks twenty days. You
Speaker 1: start thinking, Lyell cam Irving, Sehwan Lee haven't practiced yet,
Speaker 1: Tyrant Smith is out, Jordan Lewis might not practice this week.
Speaker 1: You know, doesn't sound like any really significant injuries, but
Speaker 1: a lot of time getting missed in the seasons only
Speaker 1: three weeks away. Are you guys worried about prep times
Speaker 1: and having enough time on the field and the new
Speaker 1: coaching staff and everybody messing together? Is that is that
Speaker 1: something to be worried about or is all that going
Speaker 1: to take care of itself and kind of come out
Speaker 1: to the wash. When you start playing football here in
Speaker 1: a few weeks, you know, done, Terrrio Poe is limited,
Speaker 1: Griffin is Everson. Griffin is just getting back into the
Speaker 1: groove and he's got a little team work the other day.
Speaker 1: Uh they should everybody should be okay. Everybody should be
Speaker 1: okay because after this week passed, then you start slightly
Speaker 1: stopped prepping for you your first game. Ain't getting everybody ramped. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's because they's a player. Everybody's as long as Tyron
Speaker 1: Smith got legs and can run, as long as uh,
Speaker 1: you know, let's play that Cam Urban. We don't need
Speaker 1: him anytime soon. Uh done, Terrio Pole, We're gonna need
Speaker 1: And I saw him, he shotting the ramp up. He
Speaker 1: went from a baby crawl to you know, I said,
Speaker 1: man put a poke chop Sammich out in front of him.
Speaker 1: Hill sprint. But uh, I mean they they are moving
Speaker 1: these guys, Brent Daniels and Jim Meyer and these guys,
Speaker 1: they're doing the right things to strength. They're just slowly
Speaker 1: ramping these guys up. It's it's much like college. Our
Speaker 1: bodies kind of get older. And Jess can talk about this,
Speaker 1: but it's just like college. You older than me. You
Speaker 1: tell us, Yeah, not what I'm saying. I'm the youngest
Speaker 1: one of the group. MYO, I got rusty, got rusty.
Speaker 1: You look like a young Bob Marley. But anyway, but
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, it's like college. You've been some losses.
Speaker 1: I've been to college, Joa. You know it's safe for you.
Speaker 1: But these guys gotta sign a cold turk and get
Speaker 1: out there. So they gotta have a scrimmage or two.
Speaker 1: They gotta bang up a little bit this week. I'm
Speaker 1: maybe sunning out to be the last day and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, now you take off from that, bro,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be one hundred miles an hour. So they
Speaker 1: ramping exactly that two week window. As a player, that
Speaker 1: two weeks, Yeah, there is enough to get ready. The
Speaker 1: thing about this is everybody has to do it. Ain't
Speaker 1: nobody got advantage. It's it's certain teams that's dealing with
Speaker 1: the COVID more than others that's being held out. There's
Speaker 1: some guys that are injured. Being that we don't know
Speaker 1: about these season. We're not We don't get these beats
Speaker 1: on our phones and then on our desktops and computers.
Speaker 1: The way we were last year. Hey man, remember Jessica say, hey, fellas,
Speaker 1: guess what just happened? You know, he would break in like, bro, oh,
Speaker 1: we just gotta break this team. This guy ain't practicing
Speaker 1: to day. You know, we don't have that. We don't
Speaker 1: have an injury report that you give, Kurt, so we
Speaker 1: don't know what it's truly going on with the rams,
Speaker 1: you know. So I'll say this to your point, Kurt is,
Speaker 1: it's two weeks enough time to get ready for a
Speaker 1: football game? Yeah, player, Yes, okay? Is it enough to
Speaker 1: get a player ready to perform at his highest level
Speaker 1: in a football game? No? No, no, no, Now what
Speaker 1: you hope is, here's here's your hope. Your hope is
Speaker 1: that I can take this time to get said player
Speaker 1: ready for or the game, and then within that game,
Speaker 1: I have to be able to schematically do things to
Speaker 1: protect him, to see what his strimps are right now,
Speaker 1: and then use those and hopefully, whether it's offense or defense,
Speaker 1: that I've built up enough of a lead where now
Speaker 1: I can do things that doesn't put us in a
Speaker 1: very compromising, persistent position when you're talking about the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: because yeah, everybody's hyped up and up juiced up for
Speaker 1: the you know, from the start of the game and
Speaker 1: your emotions are on high, but then then reality begins
Speaker 1: to hit and that second to half that to happen
Speaker 1: third quarter. Now your lungs are burning and your legs
Speaker 1: a little bit heavy, and now you start to feel
Speaker 1: the effects them not practicing all off season. And so
Speaker 1: that's Can your player be ready to play a game
Speaker 1: in two weeks? Yes, Canny be ready to be at
Speaker 1: his optimal, top tier self in two weeks, that's a no.
Speaker 1: And it's going to take a lot of finagling between
Speaker 1: schematics and uh scoring and whether not on the side
Speaker 1: of the ball they're on. If we're up, we're up.
Speaker 1: I can do things in a more conservative way, but
Speaker 1: I don't want to get to the fourth quarter. Now
Speaker 1: I'm depending on my left tackle to hold up against
Speaker 1: you know, Aaron my left guard, whoever to hold up
Speaker 1: against Aaron Donald William you know right, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't I don't want. I don't want my guys to
Speaker 1: have to be trying to go up against someone who's
Speaker 1: at their optimum prime and they're not. It's a three
Speaker 1: or five offensive linement may not be at their Prime.
Speaker 1: That's that's w Yeah, that's worried. Something expecting when you
Speaker 1: talk about going up against a guy like Aaron Donald
Speaker 1: and Brockers and other players on that Rams defense. I'm
Speaker 1: parting that you Kurt on my screen. You know what
Speaker 1: man for you? You're bringing Frat house down and duomy
Speaker 1: globe doom globe God you brought. You've been rounding this
Speaker 1: game long enough. I'm trying to learn happy about Jesse.
Speaker 1: You always pascified Kurts, so happy about pacify Kurt Kurt
Speaker 1: and not pacify its bat man because he delivered wings.
Speaker 1: That's right, don't forget it. That's about all I come
Speaker 1: through with. We are having at guacamole. We need to
Speaker 1: get on now. We're gonna take our last break. When
Speaker 1: we come back, one of us was at practice yesterday.
Speaker 1: We'll find out who it was and what they saw,
Speaker 1: who impressed them, who didn't, and what they're excited about
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Speaker 1: Shannon screamed something about exploding diarrhea. And ran out of
Speaker 1: the room. I wait on him. You bad? It was yeah, back,
Speaker 1: it wasn't that kind of it was the baby with
Speaker 1: the diarrhea. You there'sn't no one you washed your hands either. No,
Speaker 1: it wasn't for the twenty seconds, but it was a
Speaker 1: good It was a solid seven and a half seconds.
Speaker 1: So yeah, no way he washed his hands off. I did.
Speaker 1: Did you see? Did you see happy birthdays? Twice? Because
Speaker 1: if you didn't, it wasn't a lot amount of time. No,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't get my twenty seconds in. It
Speaker 1: was about the solid okay and a half. But I
Speaker 1: did wash him, Jesse. I did wash him because I
Speaker 1: wouldn't couldn't live with myself if I came back in
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Speaker 1: were you at practice yesterday? I was not? Jesse? Were
Speaker 1: you at practice yesterday? I was not. I wasn't at
Speaker 1: practice either. I'm still I'm still winning on my my
Speaker 1: practice pass. Who do I have to call by? Called Jerry,
Speaker 1: probably called Derek Jerry and called Nick Eatman because Nate
Speaker 1: did and Nate got to go to practice yesterday. Hey,
Speaker 1: right man, it was nice man, different right, Yeah, to
Speaker 1: get to see these guys move around. Uh they don't,
Speaker 1: they don't. They got a whole jess. When you go
Speaker 1: see you can be like, this ain't the same practice
Speaker 1: We've been seeing it for ten years. A lot of
Speaker 1: the one on ones and two twos are gone. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's the COVID situation, but you get a lot of teamwork,
Speaker 1: a lot of three on threes, a lot of half lines,
Speaker 1: a lot of quarterlines. I mean they do a lot
Speaker 1: of situational stuff. I mean it's way different way in
Speaker 1: the temple. You know, maybe if it's cause it's a
Speaker 1: new coach or whatever. But the tempo is up, but
Speaker 1: just a touch, just a not as tempo is a
Speaker 1: people are moving faster and faster, you know, Uh, the
Speaker 1: in between breaks way to have the challenges and all
Speaker 1: of that. You know, the music us almost none existent.
Speaker 1: They want people knowing what to do and here here
Speaker 1: and and execute and so practice is nice, man, practice
Speaker 1: practice is nice. Uh. There's some guys out there showing it. Man,
Speaker 1: who's Wilson's showing who? Yeah? Who were some guys Wilson
Speaker 1: You didn't expect that you saw? Cedric was one of them. Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: he's showing it. And believe it or not, the guy
Speaker 1: that we've been critical of, Tristan Hill, it's putting a
Speaker 1: little pressure up the middle. He had a bad bad Yeah.
Speaker 1: And Gallamore is trying to do his thing. And I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, man, and I know they have a hit.
Speaker 1: But Tyrone Crawford is looking fluid in his work, individual work,
Speaker 1: and I'm talking about when the when the just the
Speaker 1: D line is working together, working on Damon's hidden He's
Speaker 1: looking nice. Alden Smiths is uh he just wow. I mean,
Speaker 1: I am. I saw him a couple of times in
Speaker 1: the run situations, not in the past situations. He's he's
Speaker 1: heavy handed, you know. Uh, he looks good. Uh six
Speaker 1: four six five two eighty. He looks good. Uh done. TERRYO.
Speaker 1: Poe is working back in. Evan Griffin is working back in.
Speaker 1: We're not allowed to talk about all the formations, but
Speaker 1: but they got some defensively, they got some things that
Speaker 1: are working. Jalen is running like, uh, like a bat
Speaker 1: out of you know what, bro, He's doing his thing.
Speaker 1: He looks good. He stood out to me. He looks
Speaker 1: really good in coverage like he looks yeah, really good coverage. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And secondary wise, man, they look okay because the receivers
Speaker 1: are doing it. The quarterbacks are doing it. The first
Speaker 1: team quarterback. I had to look at the second team quarterback.
Speaker 1: They're all are doing it. They seem to seem to
Speaker 1: have the advantage as of right now. They get a
Speaker 1: few picks here there, they break on the ball pretty good.
Speaker 1: But the offense is basically to me, it's been winning
Speaker 1: and so I think it's a backs look okay, it's
Speaker 1: gonna actually uh take I think games for us to
Speaker 1: see how good they have been. Because Amari Cooper, you
Speaker 1: know nice uh that young kids the first round pick,
Speaker 1: lamb ceedee, lamb. Man, he is smoothed. You know when
Speaker 1: I heard people say, oh, man, he looked at party,
Speaker 1: looked the role. He does a gallop, had a drop
Speaker 1: or two in the practice. I was there, but he
Speaker 1: was all over the field making catches. Noah Brown is
Speaker 1: trying to make it make a bid for this thing.
Speaker 1: And so now what I want to say is this
Speaker 1: right here. Your left guard's Connor Williams, and that's your
Speaker 1: left guard. Your center is Lunar and that's your center.
Speaker 1: The other guys they get the practice when those guys
Speaker 1: decide they don't want to practice. Other than that, I
Speaker 1: don't see no competition. And that's why I was trying
Speaker 1: to tell y'all offer earlier. And the only one that's
Speaker 1: competition is thirty one because he's starting. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Dig Trayman, he's starting, So that's your competition.
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb is your third receiver. That that ain't no competition.
Speaker 1: But on but on our offensive line, they are being
Speaker 1: smart and by saying we ain't in, ain't no competition,
Speaker 1: these guys ain't ready for the NFL. And not if
Speaker 1: the Rams are first opponent, because but Aaron Donald would
Speaker 1: do to them rookies, they would ruin them and we
Speaker 1: won't have them very long. You know said, hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: you've said before that that the defensive line can only
Speaker 1: get better because they're facing such a great offensive line
Speaker 1: in practice all the time. I said, I said the
Speaker 1: opposite way the offensive line is getting better because the
Speaker 1: defensive line. Yeah, at that particular time when they had McCoy,
Speaker 1: Pole Smith Lawrence, Yeah, I thought those dringer guys on
Speaker 1: the offensive line who were trying to get reps that
Speaker 1: I said they would get better because of that, Right,
Speaker 1: that's I assume that's got to work the same with
Speaker 1: the receivers right in the cornerbacks, I mean, our our
Speaker 1: quarterbacks or that's such a seems like you need a
Speaker 1: lot of confidence to play that position. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: assuming they're not getting their confidence knocked down a peg
Speaker 1: or two here. They're actually getting better from from maybe
Speaker 1: getting burned. And let me say this right twenty seven
Speaker 1: seventeen baby sharpness iron Yeah, that's how you gotta do
Speaker 1: it better. This. You gotta be cutting to get some
Speaker 1: good stuff right there, man, to get yourself sharp. These
Speaker 1: guys are not making the catches that these receivers are
Speaker 1: making are nice catches. It ain't in their contested catches,
Speaker 1: And so I'm hoping that their mindset and their mental
Speaker 1: makeup is okay, okay, Yeah, this dude had to make
Speaker 1: a great play to get this, you know, And so
Speaker 1: they do make their fair share amount of plays, you know,
Speaker 1: but you know, as an offense, you always say, what
Speaker 1: do we remember, Yeah, do we remember that bat down?
Speaker 1: Or do we remember that old man? This dude, we
Speaker 1: just caught one between two players. So we always gonna
Speaker 1: glorify the offense on that one catch. You can have
Speaker 1: nineteen great bat downs and all of a sudden, that
Speaker 1: Waine catch for a first down on the one yard
Speaker 1: line's the grettest thing in the world. So did everybody's
Speaker 1: playing well? The office in line, Uh, they look nice,
Speaker 1: They've been practicing well, but but uh they much you
Speaker 1: can do against Alden as a backup. Alden crushed the backup.
Speaker 1: Demarkus rons crushed the backup. I mean, I'm like, what,
Speaker 1: what what do we expect here? If they was handling
Speaker 1: needs to god, we'd be like, oh my god, I deep,
Speaker 1: this is in trouble. Right. Did you did you notice
Speaker 1: that the backup quarterback is getting a lot more reps
Speaker 1: than in previous years. Did that kind of stand out
Speaker 1: to you? That's one thing that I kind of absolutely
Speaker 1: and were getting. Yeah, and end the receiver would be in.
Speaker 1: They're gonna throw the first team thirteen fourteen, They're gonna
Speaker 1: throw the end of receiver. So anybody can be in
Speaker 1: bend newtie got a lot of work, especially before practice.
Speaker 1: They kid pretty fast, he pretty fat. But I know
Speaker 1: whether they ain't what we were about. But he can throw.
Speaker 1: It's that. That's the That's the history of Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy has been known to develop quarterbacks. So you know,
Speaker 1: I can't develop guys if they're standing back, they're holding
Speaker 1: the clipboards. This is my time of development. This is
Speaker 1: my time to see what guys know, what they can do,
Speaker 1: and how I can kind of get get them ready
Speaker 1: in the event that something happens to dak. That is
Speaker 1: the That is the history of who Mike McCarthy is
Speaker 1: of getting and developing quarterbacks all across the board. He uh,
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you they'd be out there before practice.
Speaker 1: The quarterbacks office line deepens line. They were out there
Speaker 1: thirty minutes before. Everybody seemed like working working their craft,
Speaker 1: working their craft, and they went through some simulations of
Speaker 1: two minutes they was working. Man, the quarterbacks are lining
Speaker 1: up at the receivers and they and they calling it.
Speaker 1: So you know, I see DA telling to dude, move off,
Speaker 1: move off, Like what the world you know, he had
Speaker 1: the slide. You know what I'm saying. So I hope
Speaker 1: I ain't getting getting the trouble by saying that. But anyway,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Jesse, when you go out there, I
Speaker 1: know you use a Twitter freak. Don't do it. Don't
Speaker 1: tweet doing the price run. I'm gonna I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: have my privileges were voting, man, because almost yeah, I
Speaker 1: almost twitted something Clarien Hill. I was saying, hey, man,
Speaker 1: what you twitt I'm like, I'm tweeting my wife. Man, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I haven't I haven't
Speaker 1: seen enough of Denucci to to have an opinion on it.
Speaker 1: But he throws a good looking ball. Man. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it always yes, hepposed to, but I mean
Speaker 1: he's got a that ball looks good when it comes out. Man,
Speaker 1: it's it's a good looking tight spiral. So all of
Speaker 1: those guys, I mean, yeah, I'm with you, Shannon, all
Speaker 1: of those guys man, Dad, Clayton, Thornson, Uh, Denucci all
Speaker 1: up and the Dalton is throwing some nice balls. And
Speaker 1: uh but you know, ain't nobody coming, ain't no multiple coverages.
Speaker 1: So we don't see it seems like that fourth wide
Speaker 1: receiver spot, it looks like it's it's down to Cedric
Speaker 1: Wilson or no People Brown. Yes, question about Noah Brown.
Speaker 1: It seems like, and Jesse, you've been around the league
Speaker 1: a lot, or does every team kind of take on
Speaker 1: a project and have like a pet cat that they
Speaker 1: keep around. It seems like Noah Brown is kind of
Speaker 1: that project that we haven't really seen a whole lot.
Speaker 1: You know, why do they keep him around? It seems
Speaker 1: like Rico Gathers was that project. It seems like they
Speaker 1: they've always had a guy that that that they you know,
Speaker 1: they keep around a little bit longer than the fans
Speaker 1: would like to see, or like kind of a head scratcher.
Speaker 1: What what causes a team? Are the Cowboys unique in
Speaker 1: that or do all teams have that guy that they
Speaker 1: just don't want to give up on and keep him around.
Speaker 1: I think all teams have that. And what makes Dallas
Speaker 1: a situation, especially now, is it's a guy like Noah
Speaker 1: Brown who you like and you think may have talent,
Speaker 1: who can help you out at some point in time,
Speaker 1: is where do we play him? Like you have so
Speaker 1: many other guys that you want to get the ball too,
Speaker 1: is that you can't even find space for a Noah Brown.
Speaker 1: So the best thing that you try to do is
Speaker 1: you try to keep him on your roster, continue to
Speaker 1: develop him because you're gonna say, at some point in time,
Speaker 1: we're gonna probably need a guy like this, and we
Speaker 1: know that he has the skill set to compete. Not
Speaker 1: as a starter, but you get reps in a starting
Speaker 1: position and in the event that we may lose somebody
Speaker 1: or trade somebody, or something happens to somebody. Now we
Speaker 1: have guys on our roster where the drop off isn't
Speaker 1: such a large drop off. It's just you know, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a Dropta from Amari, but it ain't gonna
Speaker 1: be Niagara Fall drop off. It may be a little
Speaker 1: bit of a bop and we can still go out
Speaker 1: there and compete. But that's all across the board. And
Speaker 1: I mean, we look at a guy last year in
Speaker 1: Philadelphia and Greg Ward, who was around hanging around, you know,
Speaker 1: practice squad, got and came in and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden he was there. You know, there's always guys that
Speaker 1: they have on their practice squad and you know, kind
Speaker 1: of tucked away on their roster, just trying to develop them,
Speaker 1: trying to groom them, trying to grow them in the
Speaker 1: event that they need them or when it's time for
Speaker 1: them to get out there and play. They're already in
Speaker 1: the system. They already know what to do. Now I
Speaker 1: can just insert them and we can keep going forward. See.
Speaker 1: But I think, Jesse, the difference is in these coaches
Speaker 1: if they keep those guys. Unlike in the past, we
Speaker 1: would keep a guy like that and we would never
Speaker 1: see production. But I've known McCarthy to keep quarterbacks and
Speaker 1: receivers and all would saying. You'd be like, whoa where's
Speaker 1: this guy? Men? And you sit there production DeVante Adams
Speaker 1: in Green Bay. That's a guy. Davanta Adams was that guy.
Speaker 1: He was a guy they tucked away and developed and
Speaker 1: developed and developed, and all of a sudden, around you're saying, well,
Speaker 1: damn vont Adams one of the top ten receivers in
Speaker 1: the league. Whered he come from? Well? He was a
Speaker 1: guy that and they kept tucked away and he got
Speaker 1: his chance to go out there and Seane, thank you, Jesse,
Speaker 1: You're great. You're great, Jess. Is it just trying to
Speaker 1: earn my ten dollars, man, I said, is it is
Speaker 1: it too early? I know, I know in training camp,
Speaker 1: if we were all out in California, we would we
Speaker 1: would have a guy or two that we could say, hey,
Speaker 1: don't be surprised if this guy makes the roster. Kind
Speaker 1: of a dark horse candidate to make the roster. I
Speaker 1: know you guys are or even though we're not able
Speaker 1: to get out to practice, y'all are still and you
Speaker 1: still have sources, um that we may be surprised that
Speaker 1: we love a dark horse guy. Nate. I mean you,
Speaker 1: if you've been there more than anybody else, what do
Speaker 1: you think about about that? You know? Once, once we
Speaker 1: get on the linebackers, man, I don't know how many
Speaker 1: they're keeping, you know, but everybody's housing that Francis Bernard.
Speaker 1: I saw him make a few plays. He's a hustle
Speaker 1: type guy. He's built pretty good. Uh. And once again, uh,
Speaker 1: just watching these guys, man, A lot of guys look good,
Speaker 1: but uh, it's gonna be good what the scouts think.
Speaker 1: The scout's gonna play a major role in trying to say, okay,
Speaker 1: this is what we see, how do you like this guy?
Speaker 1: Because they're gonna be able to have, They're gonna have
Speaker 1: a list of guys that are gonna be coming back
Speaker 1: further earliest guys get the virus or get injured. This
Speaker 1: list is bigger, the practice squad is bigger. So it's
Speaker 1: just hard to say. Man, you know what, they really
Speaker 1: don't want to speak in on bubble guys. They say
Speaker 1: the here, they really know what you're speaking on. But
Speaker 1: I'm but I am gonna say that. Friends. And Bernard
Speaker 1: is a nice living kid. He's got a lot of
Speaker 1: buds so far, let's for sure. He said yes, yes, yeah, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: Darian Darian Thompson. I ain't the way he sided at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the year. But as Kurt see it
Speaker 1: earlier before we got there, they're liking this guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's getting some starting reps. Sounds like yeah yeah, with
Speaker 1: Clinton disks struggling. So well, boys, it's uh, it's noon.
Speaker 1: We've done our hour. I guess uh, Shannon had raised
Speaker 1: it up, Jess floating, let's do it. I'm back, Kurt,
Speaker 1: I'm back. My phone dropped out. You know, Kurt, I
Speaker 1: did not have diarrya to begin with. I had to
Speaker 1: I had to go number one. But thank you for
Speaker 1: thanks for thinking that I had Diarrya. But you know what, Kurt,
Speaker 1: why don't you, why don't you bring bringing home today?
Speaker 1: Take us, take us home, fearless leader. You got on.
Speaker 1: No get Mama Gross to bring it home one time. Man,
Speaker 1: come on, need to get Mama Gross back on the show.
Speaker 1: So Kurt, take it home, sign us off, brother, take
Speaker 1: us naga. Kurt. Hey, Shannon, thanks for you know, staying
Speaker 1: with us through all your troubles over there. I hope,
Speaker 1: I hope Derek's office is going one piece. Jesse, Thank you,
Speaker 1: sir for bringing bringing the hot takes. Always appreciated. Nates.
Speaker 1: Always glad you snuck into the practice. I hope you
Speaker 1: can keep doing it. Yes, sir, Baby Grace, all right,
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Speaker 1: appreciate it. Next, no love for Chris Beam, no love
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