1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Seven year old Athena's strand 2 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: was looking forward to a birthday party and birthday presents, 3 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: but it didn't turn out the way her family planned. 4 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: A fed Ex driver, thirty one year old Tenor Horner 5 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: now formally indicted for kidnapping seven year old Athena while 6 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: delivering a birthday present to the home. He is now 7 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: also charged with capital murder and is facing the death penalty. 8 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for 9 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: being with us here at Fox Nation and Serious Leven 10 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: a Texas f X driver now charged and the kidnapping 11 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: and strangling death of a beautiful seven year old little 12 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: girl he allegedly kidnapped from her Dallas home. He's been 13 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: formally indicted with a murderer, and in Texas that means 14 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: the state can announce the death penalty will be sought. 15 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: Now he has his own story, which I'm sure is 16 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: a big lie, because once you hear it, I think 17 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: you'll agree with me. Tanner Horner, thirty one years old 18 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: tell us investigators he accidentally hit a Fenistrand with his 19 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: truck that he panicked, grabbed her and put her in 20 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: his FedEx car. Fearing what would happen if he told 21 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: her mom and dad, he strangled her in the truck 22 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: and dumped her body seven miles from home off some 23 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: country road. She was found December two. Now, at that time, 24 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: she was at the home of her dad and mom, 25 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: and I believe the stepmom fully was convinced she was 26 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: just outdoors playing. Little did she know the FedEx delivery 27 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: guy had abducted beautiful little Athena. And in another headline, 28 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: Athenis Transsather is now suing FedEx and a delivery driver 29 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: he says strangled his daughter dead, claiming the company was 30 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: negligent in employing him and failing to supervise him. Jacob 31 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: strand Athena's dads seeking over a million dollars in damages 32 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: from FedEx. He also names Horner and the contractor that 33 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: hired him in his new lawsuit. Now Athenis Trans Biomom 34 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: has also lost a private investigation into the circumstances surrounding Horner. 35 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: Tanner Horner, the FedEx driver hiring Horner, now held on 36 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: capital charges of murder and aggravated kidnapping in Wise County, Texas. 37 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: But how did the whole thing start? Take a listen 38 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: to our friends at CBSDFMW search cruise had been now 39 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: here all day long trying to figure out where exactly 40 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: she is. It's a very wooded terrain, and just a 41 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: few moments ago I actually saw another group of volunteers 42 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: with flashlights as they try to go out trying to 43 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: find Athena. Now take a look at your screens. This 44 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: is what seven year old Athena Strand looks like. She 45 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: was last known with her dad and stepmom at her 46 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: house on a County Road seventy three near Cottondale. Here's 47 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: what happened. According to the Sheriff's office, Athena's stepmother called 48 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: the Sheriff's department just after six thirty last night, saying 49 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: Athena was missing. After searching for about an hour, the 50 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: two had an argument and then Athena's dad wasn't home 51 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: at the time. Right now, officials think Athena walked out 52 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: on her own. You're hearing it just as everyone heard 53 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: it at that time. She looks like a little angel. 54 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: How do you have a fight with your stepmother and 55 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: then suddenly just disappear from the family home with me 56 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: An all star panel to makes sense of what we 57 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: know right now, Alexis Terscha joining US Crime Online dot 58 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: Com investigative reporter Alexis. First of all, this takes place 59 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: in Paradise, Texas. And from what I understand, that's about 60 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: forty miles northwest of Fort Worth. What can you tell 61 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: me about Paradise, Texas. Well, it is in Wise County, 62 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: and you're exactly right. It is northwest of Fort Worth 63 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: and Dallas. Arlington's considered part of the Dallas metropolitan area. 64 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: It is a small area. It's just a county that's 65 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: only about seventy thousand people. Even though it's near these 66 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: really big cities, it's a much smaller community. Seventy thousand people. 67 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,679 Speaker 1: Straight out to Robert Crispin joining US private investigator, also 68 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: former Federal Task Force officer for US Department in Justice 69 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: d EA Miami Field Division. No lack of business in Miami. 70 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: Former homicide Crime Skits Children investigator now at Crispin's Special 71 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,799 Speaker 1: Investigations and you can find me at Crispin Investigations dot Com. Robert, 72 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: seventy thousand people in the big scheme of crime. That's 73 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: still considered a small town. Now, Listen, I grew up 74 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: on a red dirt road literally much much smaller population. 75 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: But when you're talking about suspects, you can take out 76 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:44,239 Speaker 1: I mean statistically women, you can take out everybody younger 77 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: than let's just say ten. You can take out everybody 78 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: statistically older seventy or older. And then what you've got 79 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: left out of seventy thousand in the big scheme crispin 80 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: as a small suspect pool, especially when you're looking at 81 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: an area that's over an hour drive in traffic from 82 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: a big city. You think you're in a safe community, 83 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: right you would, But what that seventy thousand does is 84 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: it it really gives you the opportunity to narrow things 85 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: down versus being in a population of several million in 86 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: a city. So it really helps the investigators narrow down, 87 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: especially in the area where this happened. Being I believe 88 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: it was somewhat rule. You're going to have, you're gonna 89 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: have witnesses, and you're going to have stuff that's going 90 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,679 Speaker 1: to point you pretty much directly to your suspect pretty quick, 91 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: versus something happening in downtown Miami. Well, I mean talking 92 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: about pointing to a suspect. To Wendy Patrick, California Prosecutor 93 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: author Red Flags and a new book, Why Bad Looks Good, 94 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: Biblical wisdom to make smart choices in life, love, and friendship. 95 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: She's at Wendy Patrick PhD dot com and you can 96 00:06:55,320 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 1: hear her on Today with Doctor Wendy KCBT Wendy and 97 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: child goes missing and step Mommy is the only one 98 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: at home with a child. The first place you look 99 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: is step mommy. You separate her from everybody else, and 100 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: you hone in on the questions they cause as minutes 101 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: go by. When a child is missing, every second counts. 102 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: Children that are abducted are usually killed within three hours 103 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: if it's a stranger abduction. So the first thing you 104 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: do is you get step mommy and put her on 105 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: the hot seat. Exactly right. You start at the very 106 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: core of where the child went missing, and then you 107 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: work outwards. So you're right, it would start with a 108 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: stepmom it would begin to extend to the next door neighbor, 109 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: and it would very slowly and methodically go from there. 110 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: Because you're right, it is within the first three hours, 111 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: So that would be exactly where you would start. And 112 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: you'd want to get that testimony while it's fresh. You'd 113 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: want to get that interview, so you'd be able to 114 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: then move confidently to see who else could have been 115 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: in the area. And with a small town, you'd think 116 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: it's more somebody saw something. Yeah, you know, And I'm curious, 117 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: Alexis rush Shuk. You've given me the gist of the area, 118 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: but I need to know. Do they live in an 119 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: apartment complex as a single family dwelling? Was there a 120 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: gate around it? Because I remember the case of Isabella's selice, 121 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: and you and I covered that together. Isabella was taken 122 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: out of her home by a stranger to her. He 123 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: tangentially knew the family. But I kept looking at the 124 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 1: entrances in exis to her home, and they had a 125 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: huge wall, remember that attached to the side of the house, 126 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: in the front on the sides and went all the 127 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: way to the back and joined. I mean, you'd have 128 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: to jump over the wall, and she was much too 129 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: small to do that. So any intruder, I mean, how 130 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: do you get into the home. So I need to 131 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: know about the timeline, what happened that day just before 132 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: she disappears, what time did she disappear, and what, if 133 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: anything do we know about the structure. Alexis Terrez chuck. 134 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: So she came home from school about four or fifteen, 135 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: and so if you think of four fifteen, but it's 136 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: getting dark at four fifteen, now it's getting it's just 137 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: before sunset really, which is, you know, right around five. 138 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: So she goes in her house, she finds out this 139 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: is what you know, her mom has said. Stepmom. She 140 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: goes in the house, she finds out her dad is 141 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: not there. He has left to go on a hunting trip. 142 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: And apparently she was julotle upset about this. I mean, 143 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: she probably just likes dad and wants to spend some 144 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: time with him. So she then there was apparently an 145 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: argument with her stepmom about this, and stepmom didn't see 146 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: her for a little while. So fourth fifteen, Wait a minute, 147 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: right there, what do you mean stepmom didn't see her 148 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: for a little while. What does that mean? Well, the 149 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: stepmoma has said that there they had an argument. She 150 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: didn't say what kind of argument it was, but that 151 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: then she didn't see the little girl. So I guess 152 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: she thought she went into her room in her house. 153 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: Maybe she sent her to her room, but she just 154 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: said she didn't see her for a little while. And 155 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: then she made dinner and she went to get Athena 156 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: for dinner, and she went to her room, couldn't find her, 157 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: looked around the house and couldn't find her, and that's 158 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: when she started to get panicked. We also know alexis Terrestie. 159 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: This is a single family home and it's about two 160 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: hundred yards away from the street. Two hundred yards that's 161 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: two football fields away from the street. So what person 162 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: is going to come all the way up the drivewaynes 163 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: drive back in there, get to the home, get the 164 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: girl and leave without being noticed. Another thing, I'm gonna 165 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 1: go to Scott A. Johnson, forensic psychologists joining us out 166 00:10:55,080 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: in Minnesota, thirty two years in the business and find 167 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: him at Forensic Consultation dot org. Author of multiple books. 168 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: Scott Johnson, thanks for being with us. Isn't it true 169 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: that a known, a tried and true parental technique is 170 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: when your child throws a fit or is angry at you, 171 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: you let them cool off, right, let them go to 172 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: their room, let them color, do their homework, you know, 173 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: until they get get hungry and can ask you for something. 174 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: But long story short, a cooling off period. We even 175 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: suggest that to parents. In fact, that's in the written 176 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: letter of the law. When you are discussing a crime 177 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: of passion, if the p has a cooling off period 178 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: and returns and commits a murder, it's not in the 179 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: heat of passion because there has been a quote cooling 180 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: off period, in other words, for the passion to subside. 181 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: You're not angry anymore. So it's recognized in the black 182 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: and white letter of the law. So certainly it would 183 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: apply in this case. The stepmom let the little girl 184 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: go to her room, Brett. She did the right thing. 185 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: So let the child calm down and be heard and 186 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: just let it go. So, okay, Crime stories with Nancy Grace. 187 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 1: Okay to you, Eliza Terrestrian. Any idea how long the 188 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 1: stepmom and the daughter were separated before stepmom that comes concerned. 189 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: It was only about an hour, so as sad chat 190 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: home about five four or fifteen, about five thirty, the 191 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: stepmom realized that that's when she went to look for her, 192 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: and so she looked and looked. It took her. She 193 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: was looking for her for an hour. I don't want 194 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: to say that she waited an hour because she didn't. 195 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: She was looking for her and as you can see, 196 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: you know from some of the photos and the video 197 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: from the scene, it's the property is wide. She probably 198 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: could have walked all the way down to the mailbox. 199 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: She was looking around for her, looked at the house, 200 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: maybe behind the house, if there was a play area, 201 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: But she was looking for her for an hour, and 202 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: that's when she called police. And again with that, I 203 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: don't find that unusual, Wendy Patrick, because I've told you 204 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: this story before when John Davy went missing in the 205 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: babies or a superstore. I grabbed Lucy like a football 206 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: and started running to the front door, which was all glass, 207 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: because I immediately feared that someone had taken him out, 208 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: and that was the obvious exit. Screaming my son is 209 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: missing helped me. And you know, I was looking all 210 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: around the store before I even can dawn on me 211 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: to call nine one one. So I find that perfectly normal. Yeah, 212 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: I remember that story, Nancy, and you know it is normal, 213 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: and it's especially normal if it's a large property. I mean, 214 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: if you've got a long way to look, if there 215 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 1: are a number of police, as she could have walked 216 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: to even on the property, you know, even if it's dark, 217 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: and especially perhaps if it's dark, should probably look a 218 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: little more closely it's not unusual. And you know, Alexis 219 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: did a great job of specifying it's not a delay 220 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: where she's sad and just wondered what she should do. 221 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: She was actively looking. Can you even imagine going upstairs 222 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: to get your stepdaughter for dinner and she's gone. I 223 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: mean this that thought, I know, nanthy Uni, what that 224 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: feels like. Your heart just just races. And so this 225 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: mom probably didn't even have a concept of time as 226 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: she looked through her property unfortunately unsuccessfully to find this 227 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: little girl. She immediately COLLS nine one one following a 228 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: search for the little girl. Take a listen to Nick Starling, CBS. 229 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: When I asked Sheriff Lane Akin if someone could have 230 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: possibly taken her, he told me all options are on 231 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: the table at this point and they will leave no 232 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: stone unturned. Now, several dozen search crews have been out 233 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: all day, in the air and on foot trying to 234 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: find this little girl. On usually you found the child 235 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: close to the house, under the house, in the eddy, 236 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: in the laundry, under the bed. Usually that's what happened, 237 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: but it didn't happen this time. So then the next 238 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: thing is you look around the house and then you've 239 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: got to expand that as time goes on, you know 240 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: that sinking feeling, that feeling like, Okay, they're here, they 241 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: got to be here. You look under the bed, you're 242 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: look in the closet, you look behind the shower curtain. 243 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: Then you go out in the yard, you're look in 244 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: the car, and that feeling that sinks in when you've 245 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: run out of places to look. Let's hear what Sheriff 246 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: Lane Aiken has to say. And that search, for the 247 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: most part was that area of the house, inside the house, 248 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: under the house, and then the immediate area and that 249 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: six acred track where they live, but they weren't able 250 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: to locate the child. Later on in the night we 251 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: had THHP who came to help, and multiple local pds 252 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: joined in and helped us in the investigation and the search. 253 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: And in the nighttime we had DPS one on one helicopter, 254 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: DPS one on one and four PDS air one that 255 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: were there and they had thermal imaging helping to locate 256 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: e signatures on the ground, but they didn't find anything 257 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: other than wildlife rabbits, hogs and some deer and no 258 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: indication that there was any human activity. They're doing everything right. 259 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: At that point, after thermal imaging helicopters and bringing in 260 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: the Texas Highway Patrol to help, they take another step 261 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: to find this little girl. Take a listen to the sheriff. 262 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: Local law enforcement as well as Rescue one. Search and 263 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: Rescue one had their canine teams, and those canine teams 264 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: worked throughout the night in the darkness until the early 265 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: morning hours trying to pick up a track a trail. 266 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: They picked up a short trail that just kind of 267 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: circled around the house and then headed back over toward 268 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: twenty one, twenty three, two different dog teams ran that trail. 269 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:04,959 Speaker 1: I go, but still we didn't find a female. Okay, 270 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: Robert Crispin, they're doing everything right. Did you hear what 271 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: the sheriff said about the dogs. They bring in the dogs, 272 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: they go round and around and around the house, and 273 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: then that's it. That would suggest she didn't leave the house, correct, 274 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: They would have picked up on that scent and they 275 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: would they went somewhere with that set with those dogs. 276 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: Those dogs are fantastic, which immediately is going to make 277 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: them jump to that child was removed on that property, 278 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 1: hence taking this case apartment or the child is somewhere 279 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: on that property. Since the dogs aren't indicating she left 280 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: another thing, could you explain what the thermal helicopters do. 281 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: So the thermal imaging is in other terms called flur 282 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: forward looking in for red. And what it does is 283 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,479 Speaker 1: it it projects down onto the ground or in the 284 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: air wherever to pick up heat from a body heat 285 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: from someone. You see it now on Fox News all 286 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 1: the time when you see a lot of the illegals 287 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: coming across the border. It's nighttime and you see a 288 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: bunch of white images walking through a very dark wooded area. 289 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: So the thermal is going to pick up on the 290 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: body heat and it's it's going to tell you if 291 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: there's a child lost. They use it a lot for 292 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: children that are lost in the wilderness or people that 293 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: are lost in the weldness. In this case, they're looking 294 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: for maybe the child wandered into the woods and got 295 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: lost or is vetted down somewhere, and that thermal imaging 296 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: or that flear is going to pick right up on 297 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: it and it's going to hone in where that kid is. 298 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: It's very amazing technology. And what about the fact that 299 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 1: there is a six acre track for them to search 300 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: six acres of wooded land. It's going to be very difficult. Well, 301 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: the helicopter is great because it can cover such a 302 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: large area and that flur. They can dial it in 303 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: to within a few feet, or they can go out 304 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: a little bit wider and start to do a grid 305 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 1: pattern and fly back and forth, which is why you 306 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: see helicopters flying in circles or up and down or 307 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 1: back and forth. They're doing a grid search and there 308 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 1: are projecting that flur under the ground and they're going 309 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: to pick up things such as a deer. They're going 310 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 1: to pick up a rabbit, They're going to pick up 311 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 1: a duct, They're going to pick up anything that is 312 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: emitting to keep and it's going to lock onto that child. 313 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 1: And it didn't. And of course, to special guests joining us, 314 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: a forensic psychologist Scott A. Johnson out of Minnesota. Why 315 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: is it that children, when they are faced with an 316 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: argument with their parents, they may go hide. Why do 317 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: they hide? Well, they're sort of get out in their head. 318 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: You know, why is mommy or daddy angry at me? 319 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 1: Or maybe they're angry at mom or dad for being 320 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: angry at them. And I think it's just hiding makes 321 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: things better at the time. I guess it's just a 322 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 1: human nature. The next thing cops are doing now the 323 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: shaff tries to piece together a timeline. Remember, at this juncture, 324 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: if step mommy is not involved and Daddy's not involved, 325 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 1: that means this is a stranger abduction. A stranger abductions 326 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: overwhelmingly the child is killed within three hours. So what's 327 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: the timeline? Listened to Sheriff Lane Aiken had about four 328 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: or fifteen seven year old athen of Strands stepped off 329 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: her school bus arriving home like she does almost every 330 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: day at County Road thirty five seventy three in Paradise. 331 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: Had about six forty pm that same day, Why is 332 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 1: Canty Sheriff's Office dispatch received a nine one one call 333 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 1: from athena step mom reporting that Athena was missing. Within 334 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: about fourteen minutes, we had deputies, ms, volunteer fire departments 335 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: there and there was a search that commenced just right away. 336 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: You know, as far as I can see, alexis teresta 337 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 1: crime online like commonist to gative reporter, And they wasted 338 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: no time. As soon as they got the call from 339 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: the mom, they did their own all out search. They 340 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: brought in thermal imaging, as you heard Robert Crispin describing 341 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: floor they brought in. They're doing everything, and they're doing 342 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: it quickly. They also very important nail down the timeline. 343 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: They're doing everything right so far, and that they even 344 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: had people on horses searching because it's you know, it's 345 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: not an urban area, so they're searching all around thinking 346 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: maybe she got lost, but if somebody took her, maybe 347 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 1: they're still close enough that they could find them and 348 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: get her back safely from them. They absolutely took this 349 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: very seriously. They did not think that she had run 350 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: away at all. They were very worried about her. The 351 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: minutes tick by in the search and then there is 352 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: a break. Take a listener share of Lane aken and 353 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: we want to send our condolences out to the family 354 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: of Athenas Strand. Her body was recovered about two hours ago, 355 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: maybe three six miles that direction. It hurts our hearts 356 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: to know that that child died, so much so that 357 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: that she is on her way now to the Medici 358 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: Examiner's office and there's a Texas ranger in front of 359 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: her and there's a Texas ranger behind her. This community 360 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: does not like losing our children, and we could see 361 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: it because of all the people who came out and 362 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: helped us throughout this ordeal. The stepmother is doing everything 363 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:26,479 Speaker 1: she can to find Athena. The bio dad is gone. 364 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: Of course, he turns around and comes back, but he's gone. 365 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: At the time of the disappearance, there's no indication of 366 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: a forced entry. There were no visitors in the home, 367 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 1: no relatives, no next door neighbors came over. Take a 368 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: listen now to our friends at WF A. Cherif lean 369 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,959 Speaker 1: Aiken of Wie County told us that law enforce been 370 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: got a tip Friday regarding Little Athena that they knew 371 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: a FedEx driver had been in the area of Athena's 372 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: house in rural Ice around the time she went missing, 373 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: but the tip and investigative work leading them to thirty 374 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: one year old Tanner Lynn Horner, the driver of that 375 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 1: FedEx truck who was delivering a package to Athena's home. 376 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 1: He was taken into custody on Friday and gave a 377 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: confession to investigators per the sheriff, telling them where he 378 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: dumped Athena's body. It was found roughly six miles southeast 379 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: of Boyd investigators believe she died within an hour of 380 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: being abducted again. In the last days, the dad of 381 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: seven year old Athena Strand is suing FedEx and the 382 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: delivery driver who's triangled his daughter dead according to him, 383 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 1: claiming the company who was negligent and employing him and 384 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 1: failing to supervise him. Authorities were led to her body 385 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: by a tip, a tip about a fed Ex delivery person. 386 00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: It's every parent's worst nightmare. I was recently writing another book, 387 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: and it's called Don't Be a Victim. And when I 388 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: was researching Don't Be a Victim, I did a whole segment, 389 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: a whole chapter on how to stay safe at your home. 390 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: And I wrote on and on about what to do 391 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: if a delivery man or a repairman comes to your 392 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: home that you don't know. I don't mean cousin Eddie 393 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: that can fix your fridge, mean anybody that comes to 394 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: your home, whether it's the pizza guy, the painter is 395 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: going to paint the back of your house, the delivery guy, 396 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: the electrician. How to take steps to protect yourself. And 397 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: you know, when I wrote the book, I was thinking 398 00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: about mostly women living alone or with their roommates gone 399 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: that find themselves alone and face with the prospect of 400 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: letting an unknown male into the home or female. And 401 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: I keep thinking about the stepmom, probably in the kitchen 402 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: fixing supper, thinking Athene was back in her room, cooling 403 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: off from their argument about dad taking a hunting trip. 404 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 1: And somehow, according to what we know now, Athena was 405 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 1: no longer in her room. She had been kidnapped and killed. 406 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 1: I'm just imagining stepmom, you know, making the pasta or 407 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: whatever she was making and setting the table, and when 408 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: she goes to get a thinner for supper, she's gone. 409 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: Take a listen now to our friends at kate x 410 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: as our cut seven. The body of seven year old 411 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 1: Athena Strand has been found. A Wiss County Sheriff Lane 412 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 1: Atkin announced late last night that Strand was kidnapped by 413 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: a fed Ex driver. That driver, he says was doing 414 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: a delivery, had Athena's home at the same time. Athena 415 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: left home after an argument with her stepmother. Sheriff Atkins 416 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,479 Speaker 1: says she was likely killed within an hour after she 417 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: was kidnapped. Her body found southeast of Boyd, about ten 418 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: miles from where Athena was reported missing too Alexe to rush. 419 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: So did the little girl we think go outside? Did 420 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: she never go back to her room? She did go outside. 421 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if she went back to her room 422 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: first or not, but she did go outside. I guess 423 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: when the truck was there. You know, Roma, Crispin. It's 424 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: just too much to take in that your child goes 425 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 1: outside to play and you have to worry that the 426 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: FedEx guys coming up the driveway. I mean, I tell 427 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: my children when a delivery person comes, don't open the door. 428 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 1: Do not open it. And we specifically, like in the book, 429 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: have a window by the door so you can look 430 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 1: out and see who it is. Don't open the door. 431 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: But a seven year old child is thinking like we think, Crispin, 432 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: and she's already out there. She's not in the home, 433 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: and she's outside when this FedEx driver pulls up. Not 434 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 1: in the town of seventy thousand people, I guarantee you 435 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: everybody sleep with their doors open in their cars, left unlocked. 436 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: Innocence of a seven year old probably saw the truck 437 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: coming up and was excited to run out and say 438 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: hi and get the package for their parents. That's the 439 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 1: sad part or the iron of all this. So back 440 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: to you, Alexis. To rush Chuck, Alexis, I wanted to 441 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: ask you about the tip. Apparently it was a neighbor 442 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: in the community, in the neighborhood that saw a FedEx driver. 443 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: What do we know was in the tip and why 444 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: did the neighbor Why didn't that stick out in the 445 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: neighbor's mind. I believe that the neighbor had seen the 446 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: FedEx truck and it was around the same time, and 447 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: that it was very close to the house, and so 448 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 1: they thought, well, maybe something had happened there. Everybody knows, 449 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: you know, FedEx has the tracking on the truck, and 450 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: that that would be the reason that they would be 451 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: able to trace it very quickly and then they could 452 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: get the cell phone of the driver and find out 453 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: where it was. I don't know if the neighbor went 454 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: into that much of depth, but you're absolutely correct, Alexis, 455 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: Terres Chuck, a neighbor happened to remember seeing a FedEx truck. 456 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: For all we know, Stepmom didn't even know a package 457 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: had been delivered. We don't know if it was dropped 458 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: at the mailbox or dropped on the front porch. She 459 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: may never have even seen the FedEx delivery guy. But 460 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: I want you to take a listen to what the 461 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: FBI says happened. Joining us at Fox News. Listen. When 462 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: you look at the digital evidence that's out there and 463 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: you combine all these different things, it is very easy 464 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: to track somebody if you have a combination of a 465 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: visual identification of what vehicle was, if they have a 466 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: tracking device on that truck, and if the individual who 467 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: kidnapped the girl has a cell phone on her. I'm 468 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: not sure if the seven year old had one on her, 469 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: but the phone company's in cooperation with law enforcement, especially 470 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: in an emergency circumstance, they have the ability to track 471 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: a phone. So and it's it's pretty easy to figure 472 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: out where it was. It's just a click of a button. 473 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: It just has to have legal approval. Straight out to 474 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: Robert Crispin, joining us from Crispin Investigations dot com. So 475 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: what happened? How did they truck and buy his phone 476 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: or by the FedEx truck tracker and how does that work? So, Nancy, 477 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: these FedEx trucks, I'll have GPS's summer along the line. 478 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: In this investigation, it started to move very quick and 479 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: they be able to determine what driver dropped that package off, 480 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: and they probably won't write straight to FedEx. And they 481 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: were able to find out where is that truck, get 482 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: the history of it. Because GPS is you can go 483 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: back in time and you can do a playback, and 484 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: you can do a certain time. You can search between 485 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: one and five o'clock. It'll tell you exactly where that 486 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: truck is. And I guarantee they probably went and did that, 487 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: and that put that truck in that driveway at that time, 488 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: and it all started to come together. Then they were 489 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: able to go find the truck, identify their driver, and 490 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: start to move this case forward. Then we can start 491 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: doing cell phone work, i e. His cell phone, the 492 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: electronic digital leash that we all carry every single day 493 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: that reports to towers. There's hundreds of towers everywhere, and 494 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: each tower has an address. Some are on private property, 495 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: some are on businesses. And your phone is you're talking 496 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: and driving, is going to bounce off these towers. If 497 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: you drive from Miami to four Lauderdale, you're bouncing off ten, fifteen, 498 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: twenty different towers. And each one of those towers have 499 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: an address, so I can track you or anyone can 500 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: track you moving up an interstate, moving through a neighborhood. 501 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: Digital evidence the best evidence. It brought him right to 502 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: mister FedEx man. Prime stories with Nancy Grace Little Lathena Strand, 503 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: just seven years old, kidnapped and allegedly strangled by a 504 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: FedEx driver outside of Dallas. Strand vanished from her dad's 505 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: home there in Wise County, her body found two days later, 506 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: Horner thirty one telling cops he accidentally hit Strand with 507 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: his truck and panicked and in his panic, strangled her dead. 508 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: I don't believe that for one minute. If he really 509 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: hit her, he would have should have called nine one one. 510 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: Sounds like Tom on Casey in he's a bogus story 511 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: that Kelly drowned in the backyard pool and instead of 512 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: calling nine one one her dad just decided to put 513 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: her in a trash bag and throw her in a swamp. 514 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: Does not make any sense one because it's not true. 515 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: Doctor Kendall Crowns, Chief Medical Examiner, Tarrett County, there In 516 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: Texas Lecture University, Texas, Texas A and M and Faculty, University, 517 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: Texas Medical Branch. Doctor Crowns, thank you for being with us. 518 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: No problem, Nancy, happy to be here. Doctor Crowns. I 519 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: know that you have done literally thousands of autopsies. Is 520 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: it different when you have to perform an autopsy on 521 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: a child? Children autopsies are always unfortunate, you know, it's 522 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: emotionally a little bit more taxing. But if you still 523 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: follow the same procedures, then you have to come to 524 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: the answers so you can get the information necessary to 525 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: help law enforcement find out who did what or figure 526 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: out what happened. Would you say, doctor Crowns, that when 527 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: you have a stranger on stranger child abduction, not when 528 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: a family member or relative martyrs a child, but stranger 529 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: on stranger, the motive is usually sex, a sex attack 530 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: on the child. Yes, typically when it's an unknown individual 531 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: picking the child up, it is they're a sexual motivation too. Guys, 532 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: I want you to hear more from our fans. A 533 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: Khou police A Tanner Horner, a contract driver for FedEx, 534 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: was delivering a package to the Strands home in Wise 535 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: County when she was abducted. Authorities believe Athena was killed 536 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: only an hour after she was taken. The video shared 537 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: with our sister station WFAA that you're Seeing Right Now 538 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 1: shows an investigators surrounding that truck in Paradise yesterday afternoon. 539 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 1: Authority say Warner has confessed to talk to taking and 540 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: killing Athena, and they do not believe that he knew 541 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: the family. He's currently being held in Wise County Jail 542 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: on a one and a half million dollar bond. This 543 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 1: little girl was likely sex assaulted and murdered within one hour. 544 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:37,720 Speaker 1: This beautiful little life ripped from her family and murdered. 545 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: Statistics show stranger on stranger abduction of children result in 546 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: a murder overwhelmingly within three hours. It brings to mind 547 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: a mother Aaron Runyon and her gorgeous little girl, Samantha 548 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: run and the killer Ajandro Avila. Take a listen to 549 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,479 Speaker 1: our cut twenty four our friends from Fox eleven. Little 550 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: Samantha Running was taken from her front yard in Stanton, 551 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: kicking and screaming. Please ask your capture to let you go. 552 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: We love you. She is my sill little Linda. Please 553 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: let her go. We won't sleep either, were you Alejandra Abula, 554 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: an accused child molester who had beat an earlier charge 555 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: a few years prior, dumped Samantha's body the next day 556 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 1: after he took her, abused her, and killed her. Abila 557 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: now sits on death row for what he did to Samantha. 558 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 1: Another case for the child, and there are so many, 559 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: is murdered within a very short time after the abduction. 560 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 1: Straight out to our special guests got a Johnson psychologist. 561 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: What is the thinking why murder the child and why 562 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: so quickly after the abduction? Well, there's probably two main reasons. 563 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: One of course, is to avoid detection, and the other 564 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:13,320 Speaker 1: is likely simply I'm done using the child. They're done 565 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: with the child, so there's no point in keeping them. 566 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: So it's like the child is why an empty McDonald's 567 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: coffee cup. He's throw it away. He used it and 568 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: get rid of it. You know, Nanty, this is Wendy. 569 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,919 Speaker 1: Another reason it could be that a seven year old 570 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: is verbal. A seven year old is old enough to 571 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 1: provide a suspect description, to provide the vehicle. You know, 572 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: this isn't a three year old, So perhaps that's also 573 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 1: a motivation. Sometimes in let's say older children older being 574 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,919 Speaker 1: seven or older than that, she would have been able 575 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: to describe her assailant to say, every time the fat 576 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,280 Speaker 1: X comes to your house, you got to worry about 577 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 1: your children. You know how many times have I been 578 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: walking or jocking, sometimes with one or both of my 579 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:02,479 Speaker 1: twins and I see a truck going slowly behind us 580 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: or in front of us. I'm like, get off to 581 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: the side. Let mind me see this truck is because 582 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: they're going so slowly and I don't like that, it's abnormal. 583 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 1: And then I see it's FedEx truck or an Amazon truck. 584 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, never mind, it's FedEx. Come on, everything's okay. 585 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 1: Not in this case. Take a listen to our cut sixteen. 586 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,760 Speaker 1: This is raywas w FAA. The company also says contract 587 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,879 Speaker 1: drivers have to go through a criminal history background check 588 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 1: through a third party. Horner does not appear to have 589 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 1: a prior criminal history. Authorities say Horner confessed to taking 590 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 1: and killing Athena, and it is currently in the Wise 591 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: County Jail on a one point five million dollar bond. 592 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: As to the why behind what Horner allegedly did to 593 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 1: Athena on Wednesday, that is something we don't know yet. 594 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,320 Speaker 1: It's been a really, really tough few days. It hurts 595 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:56,959 Speaker 1: our hearts to know that that child died. And more 596 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:02,800 Speaker 1: from Special Agent with the FB from Fox and interestingly enough. 597 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: When I was looking at the FedEx page a minute 598 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: ago about what it takes to become a contractor. There 599 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 1: there are some things that they have, some hoops they 600 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: have to jump through. But one of the things that 601 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,839 Speaker 1: surprised me is that if you have a felony or 602 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 1: any other record, or you're on probation or have been 603 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 1: on parole, they're okay with that as long as it's 604 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 1: been a year since those things passed. Now that's very 605 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: interesting to me because you know, in this country, if 606 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 1: you've done something and you're a felon, you probably have 607 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: a record of doing things. And as we see with 608 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 1: this alleged report from this other individual, this person had 609 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: a history potentially of and most likely of doing these 610 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: violent things. Yeah, that's a woman, said, a woman who 611 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: claims that he raped her when she was sixteen years old. 612 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: We don't know the disposition of that case. That's right. 613 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 1: This guy that FedEx hired has claims in his background 614 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,839 Speaker 1: that he is a rapist. Take a listen our friends 615 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: at crime Online. While Tanner Horner doesn't appear to have 616 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:11,280 Speaker 1: a prior criminal record in Tarrant or Wise Counties, sex 617 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,399 Speaker 1: assault claims had been made against the thirty one year old. 618 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: Twenty three year old Shay Marie from Texas claimed in 619 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 1: multiple Facebook posts that Horner allegedly raped her when she 620 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 1: was sixteen years old. In one of her posts, Marie 621 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 1: shared a screenshot of a text conversation between her and 622 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: Horner's then girlfriend. Marie wrote that Horner quote got her 623 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 1: drunk with the intention of having sex. Shay writes she 624 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 1: was nearly blackout drunk when Horner raped her, a friend 625 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 1: of Marie said, and a social media post that Marie 626 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,720 Speaker 1: did report the rape to law enforcement. Marie wrote Horner 627 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 1: kept touching her, stroking her legs inside and wouldn't stop. 628 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 1: Marie said Horner wouldn't give her his address so she 629 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 1: could leave, and wouldn't leave the room so she could change. 630 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 1: Marie says Horner kept asking what he did wrong. Finally 631 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 1: Marie got ahold of her friend. She ran in the 632 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,319 Speaker 1: bathroom to hide until her friend and her friend's mother 633 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,720 Speaker 1: could come pick her up. In a November twenty seventeen 634 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,280 Speaker 1: Facebook post, Marie writes friendly reminder that ten Or Horner 635 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 1: is a rapist, and in another from just last September, 636 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: Marie wrote that Horner got her drunk to take advantage 637 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 1: of her. Yet here he is driving up the driveway 638 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 1: that six acre plot and sitting right there, right there 639 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 1: is seven year old Athena outside playing. It's not the 640 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 1: first time a FedEx delivery person has been accused of 641 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: a sex felony. Take a listen our friends at crime Online. 642 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 1: Last year, a FedEx delivery man in New York was 643 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 1: accused of rape and sexual abuse, evolving several teenagers. He 644 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 1: allegedly scouted his victims while driving his route in Duchess County. 645 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 1: Joshua Guiniard, thirty, was charged with two counts of rape, 646 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 1: two counts of criminal Sexual will act, and forcible touching. 647 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 1: WABC reports Guineyard was accused of picking up the girls 648 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,799 Speaker 1: in his delivery truck, giving them marijuana, and assaulting them. 649 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: In August, another FedEx driver in New York was charged 650 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 1: with murder and arson after an elderly woman's body was 651 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,320 Speaker 1: discovered after a house fire. Twenty four year old Anthony 652 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,399 Speaker 1: Dotson of Yorkville drove a route near the woman's home. 653 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 1: In March, a FedEx driver in Connecticut was accused of 654 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 1: breaking into a Bridgepoort home, holding a woman and her 655 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: children hostage. Lawrent say Tyrek. Herbert twenty had approached the 656 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 1: woman while she was taking a walk and introduced himself 657 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,240 Speaker 1: as a FedEx driver. The next morning, while the woman 658 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: was making breakfast, Herbert knocked at her door, pointed a 659 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: gun at the woman, and forced his way inside. Herbert 660 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 1: ordered the woman to get on the floor. When the 661 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 1: woman screamed in Spanish for her children to run to 662 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 1: a neighbor's house, Herbert began shaking his head and hugging 663 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: the victim, telling her, ma'am, I'm sorry, I got the 664 00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 1: wrong person. Then he left. The Post reported weeks later 665 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 1: Herbert forced his way into a college student's home and 666 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,479 Speaker 1: raped her. Nearly a year ago, a FedEx delivery driver 667 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 1: in western North Carolina was charged with breaking into at 668 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: least eleven homes before being captured on surveillance video. Investigators 669 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,400 Speaker 1: found several pieces of jewelry and two guns in the 670 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 1: driver's FedEx vehicle. You know, when I see the FedEx 671 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 1: driver pull up the driveway, I usually you can get 672 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,399 Speaker 1: a cold water bottle water to give to them and 673 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 1: welcome them, looking forward to whatever package they're bringing. It's 674 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 1: not safe and it's not safe for your children. If 675 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 1: you think you're invincible. You know your children are not. 676 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 1: This step mom could have no idea what was going 677 00:42:52,719 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 1: to befall Athena that day. From Cherish Periwinkle to Jessica Lonsford, 678 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 1: children are killed within a few hours after their kidnapped 679 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 1: by strangers. Alexis terres Chuck, Where does the case stand now? 680 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 1: Though he is in a custody, he has been arrested 681 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:21,799 Speaker 1: and the police have said that he confessed. They will 682 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 1: not release the detail of confession, but they said he 683 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 1: absolutely confessed and that is how they have charged him 684 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,360 Speaker 1: with her murder. Take a listen now to our friends 685 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 1: at k x A S and the grand jury indicted 686 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 1: Tanner Horner on two charges capital murder and aggravated kidnapping. 687 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 1: That makes this a potential death penalty case. Bethina Strand's 688 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 1: mother released this statement through the Tarrn County District Attorney's office. 689 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,240 Speaker 1: It reads, I would like to thank the Wise County 690 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: Grand Jury for their role in this process. Hearing the 691 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,320 Speaker 1: fact and circumstances of my seven year old daughter's kidnapping 692 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 1: and murder was undoubtedly very difficult for them. I want 693 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,879 Speaker 1: them to know that their work is deeply appreciated. Prosecutors 694 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 1: want the death penalty in this case if he is convicted. 695 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 1: Reminded to everyone this occurred in Paradise, Texas, where the 696 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 1: death penalty is absolutely in force. We wait as justice unfalls. 697 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:17,240 Speaker 1: Goodbye friend,