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Speaker 1: What would you talk about on your on your podcast

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Speaker 1: Firms Represents show? Did you know this is our one

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Speaker 1: fifteen minute morning show podcast. It's not. You're right, it's not.

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Speaker 1: Let's celebrate anyway in the Buddhist celebrate. So around the

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Speaker 1: fifteen minute morning show podcast table, in our fifteen minute

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Speaker 1: morning show podcast studio, we've got Scary Hello, We've got

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Speaker 1: Dave Brody. Hello, we have Garrett, we have Danielle straightening,

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Speaker 1: and yours truly, So what would you talk about if

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Speaker 1: you had a fifteen minute morning show? Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: the floor recognizes Dave Brody. Go. Well, there was a

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Speaker 1: court case this week that I found very interesting. But

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Speaker 1: in that court case, a highly publicized there was some

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Speaker 1: breaking news, some shocking news, and the reporters all had

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Speaker 1: to turn in their phones before they went into the courtroom,

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Speaker 1: not expecting any shocking news. So when the shocking news

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Speaker 1: And I started thinking those times in my life where

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Speaker 1: and I was going crazy, like scary would do when

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Speaker 1: good thing. My mom just said the same thing to me,

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Speaker 1: Italy at the Vatican right and the she was going

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Speaker 1: Pope's coming early. She's standing there with a woman and

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Speaker 1: me give you a taste of historical, uh perspective shift.

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Speaker 1: All right, Back when mobile phones, when cell phones first

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Speaker 1: when you didn't have your phone with you back then,

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Speaker 1: You can't immediately take a picture of your dogs curled

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Speaker 1: the money. Well, I will tell you this past weekend

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Speaker 1: like a damn it. I missed something important and it

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Speaker 1: you know. That's another thing I'm loving about watching mad

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Speaker 1: You had adopted anytimes I'm sitting, dude, I was in

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Speaker 1: Nate's phone buzzes, wait hard, he looks at his phone

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Speaker 1: It was my tax person. So get my taxes done.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's always that for the most part, Well, Garrett,

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Speaker 1: I think it's it's we multitask. I mean we It's look,

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Speaker 1: Sometimes that have lots to put in your kittens. You

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