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Speaker 1: once we hop off. Thank you to everybody, shaid happy birthday.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. It's been a cold year, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I had to really with my body
Speaker 1: into a different shape. No, I didn't have no health
Speaker 1: scares or nothing like that. It was just time. Like
Speaker 1: once I got the information, I was able to really
Speaker 1: gain control of my body and start to make it
Speaker 1: do things like, uh, use all of the excess you know,
Speaker 1: energy or fact that that was around. And shout out
Speaker 1: to everybody that empowered me with that, especially my little brother,
Speaker 1: YB young brother. You know Cam's little brother, Cam who
Speaker 1: works on the network, My big brother. But shout out
Speaker 1: to Elijah, honorable Elijah Muhammad. It's been a journey and
Speaker 1: this year been crazy. It's been crazy as hell. A
Speaker 1: lot of y'all know, some of y'all don't know. Obviously.
Speaker 1: I came into the game with my brother's from tde
Speaker 1: Top was one of the first people that was like
Speaker 1: a street executive that.
Speaker 2: Was in my corner.
Speaker 1: I remember when he signed Jay Rock Me, Jay Rock
Speaker 1: and Nip put out our first mixtapes in two thousand
Speaker 1: and five.
Speaker 2: My mixtape was called White Lightning. It was a street album.
Speaker 1: Jay Rock's first street album was called Watch Finest Volume one,
Speaker 1: and Nip's first Nipsey Hussein Recipees. His first tape was
Speaker 1: called Slawson Boy Volume one. So we all met each
Speaker 1: other in the same year. When we first came out,
Speaker 1: I was older than them, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I was already like in the streets. They were really young.
Speaker 1: Nah might have been like twenty nineteen twenty. Jay Rock
Speaker 1: might have been like eighteen nineteen twenty. You know, they
Speaker 1: were all really young. I was like twenty five. I
Speaker 1: was already a floor fledged game member twenty four twenty five,
Speaker 1: maybe probably about twenty four. But I had already. They
Speaker 1: was just coming into being an adults. I was already.
Speaker 1: I had been thugging in the streets at that point,
Speaker 1: four five, six, seven years out of school. I mean,
Speaker 1: I graduated high school at seventeen. So when we first
Speaker 1: got in this game, it was crazy. It was it
Speaker 1: was really crazy.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: We felt like we was on our own, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean.
Speaker 1: We didn't always felt embraced by the people. We didn't
Speaker 1: always feel embraced by the people that we felt like
Speaker 1: we supported our whole life. So we started our own
Speaker 1: movement and it was called the White Lightning. Let me
Speaker 1: excuse me, Jesus, I'm sorry, it was my mind. It
Speaker 1: was called the New West Movement. Shout out to Bishop Lamont,
Speaker 1: shout out to Mike stro you know, really my left
Speaker 1: and right arm and everything we was doing. And again
Speaker 1: when we first started it like it was really just
Speaker 1: us trying to make you know, It's like, imagine you
Speaker 1: on the earth after God flew the earth, so none
Speaker 1: of the old information is there, Like, none of the
Speaker 1: old information is there because the earth had been flooded, right,
Speaker 1: So the earth had been flooded, so there's nobody there.
Speaker 1: So you just born out of nothingness. And that's how
Speaker 1: it felt coming into West Coast hip hop. We was
Speaker 1: like born into nothingness. We didn't have nobody to give
Speaker 1: us gain. They didn't tell us nothing. They didn't tell
Speaker 1: us nothing about producing records at least me, nor did
Speaker 1: they tell us how we should treat each other, what
Speaker 1: should be the rules coming from just street urban culture
Speaker 1: into the artistic expression in the community that we call
Speaker 1: hip hop, the people that put on artistically so shit, Really,
Speaker 1: we was writing the rules as we went. That's what
Speaker 1: made it crazy. We were writing the rules as we went.
Speaker 1: So a lot of the rules that the New West
Speaker 1: for in two thousand and six, seven and eight was
Speaker 1: rules that me and my crew was coming up with.
Speaker 1: Like we were like, okay, one thing we was gonna
Speaker 1: do was we was gonna help each other. I don't
Speaker 1: care if this is your first mixtape and I got
Speaker 1: a single that's the number one song on radio, which
Speaker 1: had happened four or five times at that point. But like,
Speaker 1: I didn't have no problem. I'd have no problem putting
Speaker 1: other people in position to shine. It didn't matter where
Speaker 1: my record was at. We were all the same. We
Speaker 1: were all gonna do this together because I knew then
Speaker 1: it would take a movement. Shout out to LEEI shout
Speaker 1: out to Mr Green, Monique, Girl six, everybody at the
Speaker 1: lunch table. To Homie Dante, I'm glad you back, Kelvin,
Speaker 1: what up my boy? Nick David Jones, Series Squishy, my
Speaker 1: favorite BB, everybody else Amber, everybody here, fatt what up
Speaker 1: my boy? So back to the point, Uh, when we
Speaker 1: started to started to put it together, we just was
Speaker 1: really running with everybody. You know, I mean, we was
Speaker 1: running with everybody like we was never like. We just
Speaker 1: supported each other, you know what I'm saying, as best
Speaker 1: as we could. And that's all I could ask, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, That's all I could really ask,
Speaker 1: was that we supported each other. A lot of things
Speaker 1: were inherited, you know what I'm saying, a lot of
Speaker 1: the issues were inherited. Like remember, I'm coming to the game,
Speaker 1: like fresh off the corner like this, I'm not no
Speaker 1: type of music. Matter of fact, the only person I
Speaker 1: had met in the music industry at that time was
Speaker 1: Doctor dre Oddly, which is crazy when you think it's
Speaker 1: like pretty much the centerpiece, the mantle of West Coast
Speaker 1: hip hop to a degree. He's the only person in
Speaker 1: the music industry that I had met that I had
Speaker 1: talked to about music. I'd met him a couple times,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and he was really encouraging,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He let me know that
Speaker 1: I had a future in hip hop, like at a
Speaker 1: time when I didn't quite know it. So I didn't
Speaker 1: really have a problem with nobody, no legends, no nothing, like,
Speaker 1: I didn't know nobody shit that these just dudes I
Speaker 1: just heard on CDs. Like I heard, they was from
Speaker 1: around the way, you know what I'm saying. But I
Speaker 1: didn't know Snoop or Cube or dub They was just
Speaker 1: you know, niggas that I knew from different communities that
Speaker 1: made music that was like famous and popular.
Speaker 2: So I didn't know them.
Speaker 1: But Bishop, you know, he had already been trying to
Speaker 1: get into business for a few years, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: he already had been honing this craft as a MC,
Speaker 1: so he had a different relationship with Snoop Dogg. So whatever,
Speaker 1: you know, trauma came with him knowing Snoop. I know,
Speaker 1: he was in a position for DJ Quick to sign him.
Speaker 1: Mike Stroz battle Catch little brother. You know, a lot
Speaker 1: of people don't know, but Mike Strow was actually battle
Speaker 1: Catch younger brother. So he had already been forging his
Speaker 1: way through the music industry meeting people Topic Topic had
Speaker 1: already had to deal with DUBC you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: That didn't really work out.
Speaker 1: So a lot of the conflict that you heard with
Speaker 1: the New West and really the foundation was things that
Speaker 1: I inherited, just being down bringing the same mentality from
Speaker 1: being a gang bagger into into the space. You know,
Speaker 1: what I mean, into what we call hip hop, into
Speaker 1: the space itself, and I'm just riding with the homies,
Speaker 1: like if they got a problem, you know, we got
Speaker 1: a problem.
Speaker 2: Now, that don't mean.
Speaker 4: That.
Speaker 2: Don't mean that. Like I was, I don't have dish records.
Speaker 1: This in nice Cue, I don't got disrecords, Thistion Snoop Dogg,
Speaker 1: I don't have dish records. This in DUBC. I don't
Speaker 1: really have them type of records. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I don't have those type of records. All my records
Speaker 1: is just really what we was on and this is
Speaker 1: the time. But obviously I inherited everybody else's situation, and
Speaker 1: you know, I stood up like a real player supposed to.
Speaker 1: I never ran away from the responsibility of what we started.
Speaker 1: Now at that point, Kadot is coming into position, right,
Speaker 1: He's just getting hisself going. As the New West started
Speaker 1: to kind of dissipate because everybody started to kind of
Speaker 1: I think it put the legends in position to where
Speaker 1: they had to like start dealing with the younger acts.
Speaker 1: They had to take on the task of raising the
Speaker 1: next generation. They had to take on the task of
Speaker 1: raising the next generation at that point, we wouldn't be
Speaker 1: ignored and shout out to you know, all of the legends,
Speaker 1: because they did. They found people that they took on
Speaker 1: the task. So to watch Kendrick, right, somebody who I
Speaker 1: really been knowing again for a long time, was a
Speaker 1: kid and toured together, you know, chopped it up together,
Speaker 1: was able to hear his mind, able to do different
Speaker 1: dope things with him, you know, put him on music
Speaker 1: and really just listen to him, help him develop. No,
Speaker 1: even while we're developing at the same time, because it
Speaker 1: wasn't like we were developed acts, you know, no matter
Speaker 1: which radio song I had, Like, I wasn't a developed act,
Speaker 1: Like I was really just raw the culture, you know.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like I wasn't. I didn't know nothing about being no rapper.
Speaker 1: I didn't know nothing about none of that shit. I
Speaker 1: was just really a developed talent. Like, excuse me. I
Speaker 1: wasn't a developed talent. I was, like the real deal
Speaker 1: I was. I wasn't. Dog Dog had been rapping. Dog
Speaker 1: had been rapping. Domino taught Snoop Dogg how to write
Speaker 1: a rap like like in the eighties, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like in the eighties, Domino. Domino, who ended
Speaker 1: up becoming a platinum artist, taught Snoop Dogg how to
Speaker 1: write a rap. One two three and this is Oh Gee,
Speaker 1: the Freaks, could you move?
Speaker 2: You're pretty?
Speaker 5: Hey?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Domino taught Snoop how to write a rap. Like
Speaker 1: Domino is a platinum act and he taught Snoop how
Speaker 1: to write a act. You know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: Ice Cube was already writing raps at fourteen, thirteen years old,
Speaker 1: when hip hop was in his you know, as far
Speaker 1: as the records, when it was in his infancy. Remember,
Speaker 1: he writes this one of the most classic records of
Speaker 1: all hip hop, all genres, all across the world, Boys
Speaker 1: in the Hood. He's about sixteen years old, Like he's sixteen,
Speaker 1: and he wrote a record that's one of probably one
Speaker 1: of the most important records in the history of hip hop.
Speaker 1: Sixteen year old Ice Cube wrote that for easy You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So, like these dudes were really
Speaker 1: they grew up in the same environment, but they were
Speaker 1: already into the arts. Like they were already miles ahead
Speaker 1: of what I would be musically, Like them dudes were
Speaker 1: already next level coming into the business. Classes was just
Speaker 1: some dude that used to sell Sharon and gang bang
Speaker 1: and got some ads in school and was good at
Speaker 1: chess and a bunch of other things that seemed like
Speaker 1: their conflict. I mean, my only musical understanding is my
Speaker 1: mom really loved music.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I didn't know nothing about music like I just my
Speaker 1: mom loved music. So I knew all of the music
Speaker 1: that came out. Obviously I saw all the cultural things.
Speaker 1: But again, you're talking about more of a cultural person,
Speaker 1: like a phenom, than some taught musician. So I say
Speaker 1: that to say when it came to Kendrick, like, it
Speaker 1: was only so much that I could even show him
Speaker 1: because I only knew. I can only tell him what
Speaker 1: I experienced that fast and what my sober mind was
Speaker 1: able to retain from this experience from that point.
Speaker 2: To where I was at.
Speaker 1: So to watch him come full circle into where he's
Speaker 1: at now right and really find himself as a man,
Speaker 1: To really find himself as a man, to really position
Speaker 1: himself culturally, to be the overseer of this culture, to
Speaker 1: be an overseer of this culture, to understand and embrace
Speaker 1: the fact that you needed to really bring the streets
Speaker 1: together because that was something that I was doing, because
Speaker 1: that's what I really do.
Speaker 2: That's what I had none to do with hip hop.
Speaker 2: This is what I really do.
Speaker 1: I've really again shout out to the Black Wall Street
Speaker 1: you know, face g riding game.
Speaker 2: They for the most part put me on.
Speaker 1: It's fair to say like they gave me a platform
Speaker 1: to showcase my talent.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, These is pi rules. They
Speaker 2: ain't not crips like me.
Speaker 1: They pile rules my my relative Black Tone from Villagetown,
Speaker 1: Rest and Peace is the one that connected my music
Speaker 1: with Fox scent rest In Piece Villagetown Toonis from Villagetown,
Speaker 1: Pou Tone excuse me, tonis from Villagetown Poux Fox sent
Speaker 1: rest In Pieces from west Side pou and they are
Speaker 1: the ones that passed my music to face in g Rid.
Speaker 2: So I was already innately into this thing of crips
Speaker 2: and bloods.
Speaker 1: My older brother who managed me pretty much my whole
Speaker 1: career until of recent Pool is from through Town Brim,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I understood when Dot
Speaker 1: had the line where he didn't feel a part of
Speaker 1: what the New West was because he never had to
Speaker 1: be a part of the New West. He was a
Speaker 1: part of me. He didn't have to understand the whole movement,
Speaker 1: you know, it was. It was a lot of dissension.
Speaker 1: It was a lot of people using it to benefit themselves,
Speaker 1: to get themselves in positions with people, and it's.
Speaker 2: All good, like that's what it was for.
Speaker 1: So to watch it come into a place to where
Speaker 1: he finally took on the responsibility of the culture, don't
Speaker 1: let me be wrong. I always thought he represented Compton
Speaker 1: just fun. I always thought he represented the West Side
Speaker 1: just fine. I always thought he represented TD just fine.
Speaker 1: I always thought he represented me just fine, and anybody
Speaker 1: else that you know, he might have felt poured into
Speaker 1: his career, I mean, but to watch him take on
Speaker 1: the responsibility of the streets, it is a task.
Speaker 2: But it is one that we should have to do.
Speaker 1: I explained this to my Homebay Conflict yesterday, and I
Speaker 1: was telling him being a hip hop artist is truly
Speaker 1: being an elected delegate of a community. You don't just
Speaker 1: represent your interests. You are an elected delegate of a community.
Speaker 1: You are the voice of people that don't have a voice. Now,
Speaker 1: it's the same reason we get mad at politicians like
Speaker 1: they don't speak for us. They don't say what we want.
Speaker 1: So hip hop is very much the burden of culture.
Speaker 1: If you in this shit just to speak for yourself,
Speaker 1: then you are fucking up. This ain't just your therapy.
Speaker 1: This ain't your therapist, It ain't just about you. Hip
Speaker 1: Hop is the movement of we, not the movement of me.
Speaker 2: Feel me.
Speaker 1: It's the movement of we, not the movement of me.
Speaker 1: And I don't think people really understand that. I don't
Speaker 1: think people really get that. I think people getting up
Speaker 1: in this business and they think to themselves, know what
Speaker 1: people care about me? Don't nobody give a fuck about you, man,
Speaker 1: They don't. Everybody got their own problems. We can only
Speaker 1: live vicariously through you. We want you to be successful.
Speaker 1: My community wants me to be successful so they can
Speaker 1: feel successful because maybe they don't have enough time, maybe
Speaker 1: they got to raise their kid, They have to dedicate
Speaker 1: their life to creating, you know, creating a lane for
Speaker 1: another human being to exist and go to another level,
Speaker 1: so they don't have the opportunities to pursue what I
Speaker 1: pursue every day.
Speaker 2: So they put into me.
Speaker 1: So it's my job to get onto all these platforms
Speaker 1: and represent them correctly.
Speaker 2: You know nothing you want to know.
Speaker 1: One of the greatest things to hear in my ears
Speaker 1: when my older homie plucks say, glasses, man.
Speaker 2: I love how you speak for us.
Speaker 1: It's like my older homie who I looked up to
Speaker 1: my whole life. You know what I mean, and I love.
Speaker 1: I love when Shady say, man, gee, you be representing.
Speaker 1: I love to hear that when people from my community,
Speaker 1: not just my neighborhood, anywhere. You know, if it's a
Speaker 1: G honey from on the park, you know, shout out
Speaker 1: to Redo. If it's a G homie from Carver, shout
Speaker 1: out to uh Carver t you know, shout out to
Speaker 1: everybody from my community. Right at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: I love when them people say, you know, man, thank
Speaker 1: you Glass. It's like you make us look good.
Speaker 4: Happy see day long. Let's handling. I got that's good man.
Speaker 2: I'm going to work with me. Let me, let me.
Speaker 1: It's shout out to my brother Trap who just popped
Speaker 1: up on the live. I'm glad he came because nobody
Speaker 1: else came from my that p that the dudes and
Speaker 1: shitty I don't know where still that still didn't pick
Speaker 1: up the phone but.
Speaker 3: No, so.
Speaker 2: My defensive hip hop.
Speaker 1: It's so important to me because again, like I said,
Speaker 1: it changed my life, Like it's saved my life. Like
Speaker 1: I'm not exaggerating to y'all. Man, it saved my life.
Speaker 1: It's saved my life. Like, man, I'd have been in
Speaker 1: prison for life or possibly dead or very rich off PCP,
Speaker 1: which I don't like those chances. It's only a handful
Speaker 1: of people that made it through to get paid see me.
Speaker 1: So again, when you start saying you're a hip hop artist,
Speaker 1: remember like you you carry the burden of culture, street
Speaker 1: urban culture. When they keep saying the culture, it can
Speaker 1: be two different things. Some people referencing black culture and
Speaker 1: some people representing what we're talking about the culture. So
Speaker 1: whichever community you gotta represent. So again, like I.
Speaker 3: With my bad, what.
Speaker 2: Is like.
Speaker 1: If you don't take on a task, are you really
Speaker 1: a representative?
Speaker 3: Shit?
Speaker 1: Are you really a representative? If you take on the task.
Speaker 1: If you don't want to take on the task, get
Speaker 1: up out of here. If it's about you, get up
Speaker 1: out of here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can. I think that right there.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Because it's always hip hop
Speaker 4: has always been the voice of the voiceless though, So
Speaker 4: if you ain't, if you ain't gonna if you ain't
Speaker 4: gonna be there be the voice of the you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, of the people who can't be heard,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying that represents this hip hop culture,
Speaker 4: then you might need to sit back, man for a minute.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm gonna make some poppy tunes or something
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 1: Pop is mere, Yeah, pop is me, hip hop is we.
Speaker 1: And it's funny because like you start off trap right
Speaker 1: and you just become the voice of whichever small community right,
Speaker 1: let's say, watching Common. But then the more you start
Speaker 1: getting out there, right, Like for me, when I start
Speaker 1: going on that crazy sabbatical right stopping town of Town,
Speaker 1: I felt like I needed to represent the Bronx or
Speaker 1: Queens as much as I represented Compton or Watts. Like
Speaker 1: there's a moment that happens where it's like I feel
Speaker 1: the responsibility to say what everybody from the ghetto want
Speaker 1: to say. Everybody Like I don't even get the ability
Speaker 1: just to be, you know, a West Coast nigga or
Speaker 1: southern California. It got I gotta be like that ghetto
Speaker 1: nigga for real, Like I gotta be like, well, what
Speaker 1: would a Queen's nigga want me to say?
Speaker 2: What would a Brooklyn nigga want me to say?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, It's not about you know,
Speaker 1: there are spaces that this thing has took me into
Speaker 1: bro to where I'm no longer just a Wats crip.
Speaker 1: I'm no longer just a nigga that grew up in
Speaker 1: Compton and Watts. I'm no longer just a nigga that
Speaker 1: grew up in California. I start to represent every bodies
Speaker 1: struggle from the ghetto. You know how many platforms trap
Speaker 1: I visit that it's like that, like I don't just
Speaker 1: get the luxury of just being no longer just a
Speaker 1: little la nigga. It's like, no, I gotta be a
Speaker 1: brother for real, and not like any kind of brother.
Speaker 1: Like I don't get the luxury or nobody in hip
Speaker 1: hop really gets the luxury of being just like black.
Speaker 2: You know how we say like, oh, well, you know
Speaker 2: you're just black because you're black. No no, no, no.
Speaker 1: No no no no no.
Speaker 2: Success that ain't what hip hop is.
Speaker 1: Hip Hop burdens you with the voiceless, so therefore, like
Speaker 1: you have to speak for black people in the struggle,
Speaker 1: not just not just the you know the fact of
Speaker 1: being black, where some rich white man could talk crazy
Speaker 1: to you and you rich too, but like, really the people,
Speaker 1: the have nots. Now, there are plenty of spaces where
Speaker 1: I get there and I gotta be like fuck, like
Speaker 1: I gotta speak for the have nots.
Speaker 3: So let me this story, right.
Speaker 4: Do you think that that some artists when they when
Speaker 4: they gained success, and they gained so much success that
Speaker 4: they they they don't know how to relate to the
Speaker 4: to the voiceleste anymore. Now they now they start rapping
Speaker 4: about all the money they got, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: all the places they've been in the car they driving
Speaker 4: and ship like that. You think that happens like that?
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what's funny, I think more than anything, trapped,
Speaker 1: I think more than anything, you really.
Speaker 2: Start to see who people are.
Speaker 1: So while it is a burden, and hip hop is
Speaker 1: the burden of culture, right, while hip hop is the
Speaker 1: burden of culture very.
Speaker 2: Much, right, it's also a pleasure.
Speaker 1: Like, while it is a responsibility, I have to there's
Speaker 1: also something innately in my mind that makes me realize
Speaker 1: I get to you know what I mean I'm a
Speaker 1: little simple words, which is because like have to and
Speaker 1: I get to I'm lucky to represent that have now.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I think you get people who don't really
Speaker 6: want to represent them.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I think money right, when you start to make money,
Speaker 1: that is, it frees you, or in your mind, it
Speaker 1: frees you of the responsibility of representation. It frees you,
Speaker 1: like now you don't have to because now you already didn't.
Speaker 1: You know, the wall is pulled on everybody's eyes, Like
Speaker 1: now everybody in tripping. Now you can sell them success.
Speaker 1: I had a dude dming me at like eight o'clock
Speaker 1: this morning talking shit to.
Speaker 2: Me, right, I guess he's it's fair to say he's
Speaker 2: a Drake.
Speaker 1: Fan or fanatics, telling me that I was obsessed with
Speaker 1: Drake because he sees content that I'm talking about where
Speaker 1: I may be commenting on something him and some other
Speaker 1: guys going through or Kendrick, And I said, that would
Speaker 1: be crazy to me that you think I would be
Speaker 1: the fanatic. These are two people I know, like, I
Speaker 1: know both of these guys. I know them. I know
Speaker 1: I remember this dude first came in the door. We've
Speaker 1: met a couple times. We've politiced a couple times. That's
Speaker 1: for Drake. Kendrick is like, this is my friend, So
Speaker 1: I'm commenting on something.
Speaker 3: That I know.
Speaker 1: Everybody in the situation he was felt like he could
Speaker 1: shame me off with Charlemagne. You know Charlomagne. You know
Speaker 1: he did this.
Speaker 2: I know him.
Speaker 1: I'm like, so you feel like I'm obsessed because I'm
Speaker 1: talking about people that I know. You don't think you're
Speaker 1: obsessed because you're talking to people you don't know me.
Speaker 1: You don't know Drake, you don't know Kendrick, or you
Speaker 1: don't know Charlotte Magne. But you know, eight o'clock in
Speaker 1: the morning talking to me about three people that I
Speaker 1: know that you don't know, and you don't realize who's obsessed.
Speaker 3: You really had that conversation on your cday?
Speaker 2: Man, Oh that was today? That was today?
Speaker 3: You know yesterday, Okay, okay, I hunt everybody.
Speaker 1: Off, all of the all of the parliaments. I want
Speaker 1: to argue yesterday. I was like, look, I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: do this today. Shout out to the Squishy because she
Speaker 1: reminded me. She was like this today, big old you
Speaker 1: know made you on and you're gonna be arguing with
Speaker 1: these crazy niggas. I was like, you know what, You're right,
Speaker 1: I'm tripping. I'll give with you all tomorrow. Shout out
Speaker 1: to Mike Love, thank you for the fifty dollars. That's
Speaker 1: how we start the lunch. That's good lunch. Appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Sorry y'all late your lunch table. I was in the
Speaker 1: counselor's office. Double shot of Johnny Black on me and
Speaker 1: Joy Yo c A g Man. I appreciate that, bro.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Demo Radio, thank you for the ten
Speaker 1: dollars man, great birthday present, player man, I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Happy birthday. G you speaking truth today. Enjoy your day,
Speaker 1: my brother. I appreciate that. That's a fact. It's all week.
Speaker 1: It's all week.
Speaker 3: It sagity chervice. I'm celebrating. We celebrate the whole week.
Speaker 2: Fuck it if that's what we're doing.
Speaker 1: But it was weird to me that he was diluted
Speaker 1: to where and I noticed that when people talk to
Speaker 1: me on Twitter, and I think this is the problem
Speaker 1: with social media, Like I realized it, and I was
Speaker 1: telling the homie conflict on his stream. He has a stream.
Speaker 1: Make sure y'all check it out. It's called Off Prairie.
Speaker 1: It was like surprisingly, really really good. And I don't
Speaker 1: want to say surprisingly because Connor is really like an
Speaker 1: intellect and he's really emotionally intelligent.
Speaker 2: Man. When I tell you this conversation was deep. It
Speaker 2: was deep.
Speaker 1: So make sure y'all check that out when you get
Speaker 1: a minute Off Prairie Fire with Prince Angels. But he
Speaker 1: was saying some stuff to me, and it just made
Speaker 1: me remember exactly why I'm here.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Like, I called you up one day and I told
Speaker 4: you that shit man, I said, you gotta be like
Speaker 4: the hip hop dictator. Man, you gotta leve motherfucker. Remember
Speaker 4: that time out I said. You gotta know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: The gatekeepers be. That's it. It's needed.
Speaker 3: Be. It's just needed. It's needed within this culture. Man,
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I saw a white man saying I don't really care
Speaker 1: about that soul ship, that soul ship, some bullshit sampling
Speaker 1: soul ship, and I'm just thinking to myself, like, what
Speaker 1: in the fucking may AIGs is going on? I mean,
Speaker 1: you know that unk ship And I'm like, and so
Speaker 1: if I genuinely. Ever, I'll be honest. I'll be honest
Speaker 1: if I genuinely had an issue with Drake, which I
Speaker 1: really don't. You know what I mean, I don't have
Speaker 1: issue him at all. Right, Like I like his songs,
Speaker 1: like I like any other artist songs makes really good
Speaker 1: records when they're really great. I've never turned his song
Speaker 1: off for the most part, Like he makes fantastic record.
Speaker 1: As a man, he's a regular man. He's a good man.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't really know Cus well enough to be judging
Speaker 1: the type of man he is. But I tell you this,
Speaker 1: when I used to listen to his music and I
Speaker 1: finally start understanding what was happening with music, I really
Speaker 1: blame him for taking the soul out of hip hop.
Speaker 1: Bro right, and it sounds weird because it's nuanced, and
Speaker 1: somebody made fun of that's my new favorite word. But
Speaker 1: it's a great area, right, And it's like the gray
Speaker 1: area comes from.
Speaker 2: The bass guitar, right, that was there.
Speaker 1: His vocal is the same for equency as the bass guitar.
Speaker 1: So when he's speaking right, he has to represent what
Speaker 1: the bass guitar represented in music.
Speaker 2: That sonic that puts soul the music is the bass guitar.
Speaker 1: And because his octave or excuse me, his frequency or
Speaker 1: his where he's at vocally, it's right where the bass is.
Speaker 1: They started removing the bass guitar, low end and high end.
Speaker 1: It's not a ton of med because that's where he
Speaker 1: goes vocally. So then as he starts being successful, right,
Speaker 1: people from the culture want to achieve success. They want
Speaker 1: to achieve success, so they're following what's being successful because
Speaker 1: that's the one thing.
Speaker 2: Poor people will do.
Speaker 1: You know, we're going to follow what's successful because we
Speaker 1: want to be successful. We don't want to be poor.
Speaker 1: We don't want to have be the have nots. We
Speaker 1: want to have.
Speaker 3: Oh, we create also too.
Speaker 1: So he's literally been the med. Once he set that going,
Speaker 1: that became the thing of music. So that's why your
Speaker 1: argument sometimes I can't really argue when you say, man.
Speaker 2: Where is the soul of music?
Speaker 1: You usually are using this critique for drill and I'm like, nah,
Speaker 1: but it's not their fault. Like, there was a wave
Speaker 1: of music that started happening, right, and again this is
Speaker 1: coming from Kanye.
Speaker 2: Tocuz to the owl.
Speaker 1: Right, Kanye had the base in his music because his
Speaker 1: octave would be right above the base where he was
Speaker 1: at the owl shit is right at the med. So
Speaker 1: the feel of the music is the bass.
Speaker 6: Yeah, if I had a harsh critique or something I
Speaker 6: didn't really like to me, that's the problem.
Speaker 1: Hence, that's where you get a white kid that's able
Speaker 1: to say I don't like that soul shit. That's like
Speaker 1: saying you don't like black people. And so when I
Speaker 1: hear people like Jelil White bro and they like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know the hood stories, the hood is the bass guitar.
Speaker 1: If it's just strings, everybody got strings. If it's just drums,
Speaker 1: everybody got drums. The bass guitar is what makes black.
Speaker 2: Music what it is.
Speaker 1: Even Motown they would use strings, they would still have
Speaker 1: a fucking bass guitar. So again, if I had a catigue,
Speaker 1: well for harmony, it would be he removed the soul
Speaker 1: out of fucking black music. Now is there's still music
Speaker 1: that do got bass? I mean, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1: But again, because it's so popular, right and his records
Speaker 1: are so popular, hip hop looks like, well he's making
Speaker 1: rap songs without a bass guitar. I make rap songs
Speaker 1: as well, So if I want to reach his success,
Speaker 1: I probably need to remove the bass guitar. And again
Speaker 1: that's where we get back to Kendrick Lamar. You know,
Speaker 1: I mean shout out to dot. I'm proud of him
Speaker 1: projects like like Like like to Pemble Butterfly, where he
Speaker 1: went out of his way to include the bass guitar.
Speaker 2: Nobody realized that project.
Speaker 1: To me, sonically is a It's like a rebellious moment
Speaker 1: where sonically the game was trying to go. So while
Speaker 1: I'm not like, again, I like that record, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? I would never say it's as great
Speaker 1: as GNX as far as what records are and what
Speaker 1: albums are, but I tell you.
Speaker 2: One thing, it was way more important to.
Speaker 1: Watch him rebel against the current state of music, and
Speaker 1: that's something nobody else didn't pay attention to. Side note,
Speaker 1: I never asked and verify, but I really believe King
Speaker 1: Coot is a drake.
Speaker 3: This they said King Culta was a I think it
Speaker 3: was drake. I'm thinking about.
Speaker 1: I never verified it, but putting everything together that I
Speaker 1: know and what's happening and then what that album represented.
Speaker 1: One day I talk to him about it, and I
Speaker 1: get to him. Maybe I talk to him about it
Speaker 1: on here, but I know he just he tried to
Speaker 1: avoid talking, which I could respect that too, crazy. Thank
Speaker 1: you for five dollars. Great birthday give men. I'm happy
Speaker 1: for all of it. Nick out here on the road
Speaker 1: getting to it cuz but I have to tap in.
Speaker 1: Happy see they.
Speaker 2: Lock my low. Appreciate it.
Speaker 1: What his days on. Shut out to girl six. Thank
Speaker 1: you for the ten dollars. Happy birthday glasses. Just like you,
Speaker 1: hip hop saved my life. Keep doing what you're doing here,
Speaker 1: It is appreciated. I'm glad y'all appreciate it.
Speaker 3: We're gonna have lops today.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Revenge. But he samples great soulful music.
Speaker 1: It's not all him, but yeah, I agree, he made
Speaker 1: hip hop soappop that it's in a non soulful space allway.
Speaker 1: But it's not just about and this is where it
Speaker 1: kind of It's like it's like saying Kentucky Fried Chicken
Speaker 1: went out his way to keep soul food soulful.
Speaker 2: Like imagine you.
Speaker 1: Woke up Revenge and everywhere you went, all the food
Speaker 1: tastes like you went to these popular soulful restaurants and
Speaker 1: now they just start cooking their food like the kernel.
Speaker 1: Like they took that recipe, the cold slaw, the mashed potatoes.
Speaker 2: They stopped really making soul food, y'all.
Speaker 1: Y'all stopped really making soulful and they start making it
Speaker 1: like Kentucky fried chicken.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So I get.
Speaker 3: Potatoes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if I did have a critique, that would be
Speaker 1: the only critique.
Speaker 2: But I really don't have. I really don't care.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie to you, man, like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest shout out to two crate grind. Oh nah,
Speaker 1: y'all talk like Drake the oli rapper. No, no, no, sir,
Speaker 1: that's not what y'all talk like Drake is the only
Speaker 1: rapper of the world.
Speaker 3: No, not at all.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: That's not the point I'm saying. If I had a critique,
Speaker 1: that would be my critique.
Speaker 2: But I don't.
Speaker 1: And the more I realize, bro, the real power and
Speaker 1: hip hop is that you can see it's not like
Speaker 1: this in pop music. Pop music happens in waves. Jazz
Speaker 1: actually used to happen to some degree in waves, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Not in his origin, but like
Speaker 1: when it became this mans tream success R and b
Speaker 1: happens in waves. Hip hop is the one thing that
Speaker 1: allowed these unique perspectives to happen at once. You can
Speaker 1: have this kind of funk bassed you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's funk based g funk shit that Doctor Dredd Snoop
Speaker 1: is creating, right, that's I mean, it's just the funkiest
Speaker 1: bass lines with mog keyboards and you know these leads yo,
Speaker 1: just fantastic at the same time, and it could be
Speaker 1: as successful as this guy from Staten Island with these
Speaker 1: dirty samples that sound like they were converted in like
Speaker 1: for a bit.
Speaker 2: They just you could hear the fuzz on a record and.
Speaker 1: He's sampling this song and they're explaining to you how
Speaker 1: cash rules everything around me at the same exact time, right,
Speaker 1: and it's nine people rapping on one song and it's
Speaker 1: just this dirty thing where the drums is just you know,
Speaker 1: doing shit, and the melody is faint, but it's it's pronounced,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and they're speaking this language.
Speaker 1: It could happen at the same time as this big
Speaker 1: old dude that's selling sex appeal. He got to be
Speaker 1: three hundred pounds six foot one, black as the Knight
Speaker 1: look crazy lazy eye, and he could come on and
Speaker 1: finest women with this smooth version of R and B
Speaker 1: and you know, and it's just smooth and it's clean,
Speaker 1: and it's just gorgeous the way it sounds, and it's
Speaker 1: coming out. It ain't all funky, but it's it's it
Speaker 1: got a soul to it, and it's happening right then
Speaker 1: and there. At the same time, it's some niggas from
Speaker 1: the country.
Speaker 2: You feel me.
Speaker 1: Where they shit is kind of funky, but they speaking
Speaker 1: a whole different language.
Speaker 2: It could happen at once. It could happen at once.
Speaker 1: That's what makes what you would call this genre special.
Speaker 2: It never had.
Speaker 1: To be homogenized like other genres like it is now.
Speaker 2: It never had to be.
Speaker 1: I do think money became an important thing for everybody
Speaker 1: over the last fifteen sixteen years, seventeen years.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I do think people wanted to be successful, you know,
Speaker 1: I do think there's a lot less barriers for entry.
Speaker 1: So you do have a lot of people repeating the
Speaker 1: same thing. So I'm not blaming anybody. I understand what
Speaker 1: I know what wanting to be wealthy feels like I
Speaker 1: know what wanting to be famous feels like. I know
Speaker 1: the desire and you can't help. But look at what's
Speaker 1: going on. You know what I'm saying, and it matters,
Speaker 1: But I do blame hip hop again. Shout out to
Speaker 1: two K grind on nine. What you just said didn't
Speaker 1: circle around the bass guitar. It was them bringing their
Speaker 1: own thing to the game. It was all based guitar driven.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 3: So Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 4: I like the fact that that you elaborated on the
Speaker 4: fact that everything was able to be different and that
Speaker 4: so cooking color the way ship seems right now though
Speaker 4: you think have to be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how you think we got to the Cookie Coultor stage?
Speaker 4: Though?
Speaker 3: What it was it?
Speaker 4: The success that came along with Oh, I've seen this
Speaker 4: person right here become success. I'm gonna do it the
Speaker 4: way he did it instead of doing it the way
Speaker 4: you wanted to do it the way you You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: What do you think it was that right there?
Speaker 2: No, that's a great question.
Speaker 1: We'd have to go into why the original people did
Speaker 1: it this way from the beginning. Yeah, we'd have to
Speaker 1: go originally, why they do this while they was doing
Speaker 1: this thing?
Speaker 2: From the beginning.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. I mean, I think.
Speaker 1: I think, I think what happened was all of those
Speaker 1: musicians were inspired by what they grew up listening to
Speaker 1: the music, the producers, the DJ.
Speaker 2: Right, I think.
Speaker 1: That was what was working, right, and they were listening
Speaker 1: to soul and funk and R and.
Speaker 2: B or whatever it is.
Speaker 4: Like.
Speaker 1: You could hear the funk and the P funk and
Speaker 1: Doctor Dre and Snoops music. You could hear the the
Speaker 1: kind of.
Speaker 2: The R and B jazz and the stuff.
Speaker 1: You could hear the jazz and Pete Rock or let's
Speaker 1: say that the jazz and puff stuff. You know, he
Speaker 1: definitely had more of a funky style jazz, but you
Speaker 1: could hear it in it.
Speaker 2: You could hear the R.
Speaker 1: And B, the the Anita Baker or the or the
Speaker 1: Gladys Knight and Bone. You could hear the blues and
Speaker 1: the ghetto boys, right, you could hear that. So when
Speaker 1: they transitioned all of that stuff into hip hop, right,
Speaker 1: they were transitioning real music relationship. And I think over
Speaker 1: the time, hip hop started leaving its own fingerprint, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And now people were being raised
Speaker 1: off of just hip hop.
Speaker 3: Hip hop. Yeah, I get you. So you get.
Speaker 2: More rappers today, right you?
Speaker 1: You?
Speaker 2: You you getting?
Speaker 1: You get more rappers today that are just rapping because
Speaker 1: of rap, Like that was something that conflict. Asked me,
Speaker 1: Prince Ashless asked me the music. He said, what rapper
Speaker 1: made me want to rap? And I'm like, no rapper
Speaker 1: made me want to rap.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like I'm not saying I didn't noticed rappers before. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, no rapper, I never saw a rapper rapper
Speaker 1: like me, I want to do that now. Again, every
Speaker 1: MC got their own journey, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But that was not my journey. I mean when I
Speaker 1: started rapping, I start thinking like damn, okay, who would
Speaker 1: I want to rap?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: But I felt like I started rapping because I needed
Speaker 1: to say certain things, Like I was truly driven by
Speaker 1: the culture, you know, to speak, Like when I say
Speaker 1: the culture, I'm I mean La Streetlight to speak. So
Speaker 1: again I think what happened, you know, because we're really
Speaker 1: talking two thousand and nine, We're not talking to the
Speaker 1: two thousands. Because even if you go into the two thousands,
Speaker 1: like let's say two thousand and five, game album sounds
Speaker 1: completely different than Jez's album. Mm hmm it none of
Speaker 1: that shit sounds the same.
Speaker 2: Game.
Speaker 1: Jez, who else came? Who came out in two thousand
Speaker 1: and five in New York.
Speaker 3: Two thousand and five in New York.
Speaker 2: Not the guys that was already out, but I think
Speaker 2: they had.
Speaker 3: A new act. Black albums dropped around that time.
Speaker 1: You're not not the guys who are already experimenting with
Speaker 1: some dudes. Yeah, Kanye is out in two thousand and five.
Speaker 1: Kanye album doesn't sound anything like Game or g Z album.
Speaker 4: G Z Wayne came out. We called a tour around
Speaker 4: that time. Come and came out, Massacre came out, you said,
Speaker 4: not fifty though, Yeah, came out, Beans came out, the becoming.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So like even if you take what beings had
Speaker 1: already been in the game. But my point is, I
Speaker 1: think we started talking about when it when it came
Speaker 1: to the computer. When it got to the computer, like
Speaker 1: the the the computer created less barriers and entry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like when you didn't have to go and save up
Speaker 1: to buy a NPC or SP or any of the
Speaker 1: things that you had to do with music. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean to to to really prove your commitment.
Speaker 1: Hold on still.
Speaker 2: Calling me, calling me.
Speaker 3: It was up in eighty d last night.
Speaker 1: Your commitment, right, like your commitment had to be. You
Speaker 1: really had to be into this. It was no chance
Speaker 1: that you know what I mean, you was playing around
Speaker 1: and I think again, and this is the thing that
Speaker 1: is really hip hop for sure, making it more available
Speaker 1: to people that can't afford it, you know, I mean
Speaker 1: that sho shout out to the programmers, the fruity loose
Speaker 1: guys and all of those guys.
Speaker 2: That's like the most hip hop thing.
Speaker 1: But what happens is you also get a lot of
Speaker 1: people that probably shouldn't come through the door, right, people
Speaker 1: that are only motivated by money, that are.
Speaker 2: Only motivated by money.
Speaker 1: See, you know previously you couldn't you know, you didn't
Speaker 1: get people that was only motivated by money, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, by two thousand and nine, you could get
Speaker 1: a lot of people that was.
Speaker 2: Only motivated by money.
Speaker 1: So therefore it wasn't as much study, you know, it
Speaker 1: wasn't as much you know, something to really express. It
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, I could start making beats and make
Speaker 1: some money. And now if you come into this business
Speaker 1: thinking about making money, right, it's like you're going to
Speaker 1: look at what's making money. And if you came in
Speaker 1: this business in twenty ten or eleven, it was hard
Speaker 1: to not notice who was making money. So guess what
Speaker 1: You're going to format it? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You start to format it, right, You start to format
Speaker 1: it like what's making money because you want to make money.
Speaker 1: It's available, This is why you got into it. So
Speaker 1: that is what pasteurized it. So while it is the
Speaker 1: greatest thing to happen in hip hop and it is
Speaker 1: going to give us more culture than we ever had
Speaker 1: from different places, it's also going to give us a
Speaker 1: lot of bullshit like fast food restaurants. Fast food restaurants
Speaker 1: started off as a great idea, but as it became
Speaker 1: more of a money making thing, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And guess what, you got a lot of boo fast
Speaker 1: places that do not nerurish your body. Even now, the
Speaker 1: places that were pretty decent, they got to compete with
Speaker 1: the places that really don't care and doing it for money,
Speaker 1: so they gonna lower their quality of product.
Speaker 2: You feel me, So that's what happened to me.
Speaker 3: Trap Now I.
Speaker 4: Could dig it. I can definitely dig it though, Like
Speaker 4: I always say to people all the time. I say,
Speaker 4: if you're going, if somebody asks you if we can
Speaker 4: get some good food phone, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: They ain't gonna point you to the bullsh to McDonald's.
Speaker 2: To McDonald's, McDonald's over there on thirty nine.
Speaker 4: Over there, you know what I'm saying. So that's what
Speaker 4: I always think like that. But now hip hop, man,
Speaker 4: it is just something that that that the originality within it.
Speaker 4: It's kind of been cut short a lot lately, though, Man,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And it still exists, but it's so much of the
Speaker 1: same thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: That we get lost there. Trust me.
Speaker 1: I'm listening to music and I'm listening with's going on.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, cause I see what's going on. I
Speaker 1: see it, feel me. I see what's going on. But
Speaker 1: when you're confident in what you do, when you're confident
Speaker 1: in what you do right, you don't even have to
Speaker 1: like people tell me, like the Homies was telling me, like, man,
Speaker 1: dot just blew it open with the sound. And I'm laughing,
Speaker 1: like what sound. I don't even hear what people say
Speaker 1: in the sound. That whole thing of wave and sound
Speaker 1: is so beneath where I'm at as a hip hop act,
Speaker 1: as a hip hop where that don't even I don't
Speaker 1: care what nobody else is doing that like I'm in
Speaker 1: the Like the spirit of jam Master Jay is in
Speaker 1: a nigga, man, the spirit of Eric Wright is in
Speaker 1: a nigga.
Speaker 2: I don't care what nobody else is doing them.
Speaker 1: Niggas can't fuck with what I'm gonna bring to the
Speaker 1: table culturally. I'll be laughing people like, but you gott
Speaker 1: hurry up and drop something, g because you know what
Speaker 1: Kendrick just did.
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck what Dot just did.
Speaker 1: I swear to God, I don't Outside of being a
Speaker 1: fan of good music, I'm not listening to what Dot
Speaker 1: did and thinking about I said, I need to go
Speaker 1: back in and make some changes. Nigga, Please, nigga, I'm
Speaker 1: about to put on at another level.
Speaker 2: It don't matter what he did.
Speaker 1: Now you have to again, because you're in the business, right,
Speaker 1: you have to be mindful. But I'm laughing, like y'all
Speaker 1: think this is what hip hop is about. You're trying
Speaker 1: to make some shit that sound like another nigga shit.
Speaker 1: You well, you know his shit sound like mine's nigga.
Speaker 1: That niggas shit is a cultural revelation out of this world.
Speaker 1: It is not about how the music sounds, Nigga. You
Speaker 1: could put out a thousand songs that sound like that
Speaker 1: shit and it won't have the same effect. That ain't
Speaker 1: how this shit work. This shit in his prime is
Speaker 1: a bunch of shit that sound different. I never mistake
Speaker 1: a puff record for a Doctor Dre record. I never
Speaker 1: mistaked a motherfucking uh uh. I'm losing my mom. But
Speaker 1: who do our cast music?
Speaker 3: Organized noise?
Speaker 2: I never.
Speaker 1: I never in my life heard an organized noise record
Speaker 1: and thought it was a Doctor J record. I never
Speaker 1: heard a DJ Unique record and thought it was a
Speaker 1: Pete rock record.
Speaker 2: So what the fucking sound got to do with anything?
Speaker 1: People asking me talking about some sounds or I'm like, bro,
Speaker 1: you have to develop a cultural a cultural thing that
Speaker 1: you're gonna feed to the people that you're gonna represent
Speaker 1: a group of people with right, and then you deliver it.
Speaker 1: This is just a soundtrack. People talk about sounds. So
Speaker 1: everybody finna come out with a song that sound like
Speaker 1: TV off. That shit ain't gonna happen. You can't make
Speaker 1: that song. You dumb ass mother. You can't make that song.
Speaker 1: M you can't do that. That's not what this ship
Speaker 1: is about. And that's where I've been trying to get
Speaker 1: people to understand. Shout out to Joey west Side, a G.
Speaker 1: What's your favorite restaurant to go? Sit it down at
Speaker 1: a favorite restaurant? Probably Del Frisco's in New York Manhattan.
Speaker 3: That wasn't no sign, that wasn't outside.
Speaker 1: Because I was wearing shorts and I was like, damn's say,
Speaker 1: Bosting Nova. No, No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't eat Boston Nova.
Speaker 1: That shit horrible.
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 1: Shout out to La Man. I'm not fucking Boston. Boston
Speaker 1: Nova is just a thing in Hollywood when the street
Speaker 1: in the morning. That's better than Dennis. That ship is
Speaker 1: not regular time of day, that regular time of day
Speaker 1: eating for I'm not eating that ship at no regular
Speaker 1: time of day.
Speaker 3: Y'all heard that close Berries Close barries in.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I haven't been in a while.
Speaker 1: Shout out to two K grind on nine recipes reco
Speaker 1: away at that part.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm getting old getting names.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Kevin back in the day that was
Speaker 1: called biting, trying to fucking rite it was, It's still
Speaker 1: called biting, and it's revenge. All artists got fitted, they
Speaker 1: getting them off YouTube.
Speaker 2: I'm crying.
Speaker 1: They just and I respect it, forgive me, like, don't
Speaker 1: let me sound like. I don't want to sound like
Speaker 1: an elitist of hip hop. That's another thing too, As
Speaker 1: very much as I understand moving forward my place as
Speaker 1: as truly like a dictator of this, as a tyrant
Speaker 1: to defend hip hop's honor and to keep it pure,
Speaker 1: to keep it with ghetto people as long as possible,
Speaker 1: so people keep getting opportunities because eventually the business is
Speaker 1: gonna you know, they gonna rock and roll this shit.
Speaker 1: It's gonna happen. But I feel like, as the furor
Speaker 1: of hip hop at this point, right, it's important, right
Speaker 1: that I really speak for it, and I don't want
Speaker 1: to be elitist. I don't want to be so pure
Speaker 1: that I want y'all to think that people that I'm
Speaker 1: saying aren't hip hop are not worthy of enjoying.
Speaker 2: That's not what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying people that aren't hip hop don't make
Speaker 1: great rap songs.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying.
Speaker 1: People that aren't hip hop, aren't worth us enjoying their music.
Speaker 1: But we definitely don't have no business making them people us.
Speaker 1: We definitely don't have no business selling it out. So
Speaker 1: somebody whose story is being told already in masses can
Speaker 1: use our shit to tell their regular ass story. We
Speaker 1: only got this lane. We don't have a lot of lanes.
Speaker 1: We got Tooby and hip hop. We got Tooby and
Speaker 1: the hip hop. We cannot give.
Speaker 3: It up shut out to be.
Speaker 2: We gotta hold this thing a little bit. We gotta
Speaker 2: hold it.
Speaker 1: We gotta hold it longer than our ancestor Hell, longer
Speaker 1: than our ancestors Hell rock and roll. We gotta hold
Speaker 1: it a little long than our ancestors Hell Jazz. We
Speaker 1: gotta hold it. Gotta keep something for the ghetto to
Speaker 1: keep expressing itself.
Speaker 3: I want to say somebody.
Speaker 4: I want to say somebody say, hip hop's like the
Speaker 4: only drama just being let the people infiltrate. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like like, well, we're trying our best
Speaker 4: not to, but they every so often they keep trying
Speaker 4: to do it though, you know what I'm saying, They
Speaker 4: keep trying to do it, but we won't let it happen.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, because it's ours so much
Speaker 4: and it has to be done by us in order
Speaker 4: for it to be successful, and took it in by
Speaker 4: the world.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You know what I think.
Speaker 1: That's where this conversation again, that's why I said that,
Speaker 1: that initial conversation specifically, like I said, you know how
Speaker 1: I felt like we talked about it with Kanye before.
Speaker 1: I mean why I told you like to me, that
Speaker 1: was the first part where it started getting loose, like
Speaker 1: right where, oh, it's not quite Kanye West, like tribe
Speaker 1: is not quite Kanye West. They are. I never felt
Speaker 1: no matter if Dayla I saw what the college, I
Speaker 1: never got better than niggas. I never got that from Daylight.
Speaker 1: So I never got that from Troup. I never got
Speaker 1: that from ll COJ, nobody else who came from working
Speaker 1: class communities. I never got that feeling from them.
Speaker 3: Yay forgive me, forgive.
Speaker 1: Me for being honest about Yay because everybody know Yay
Speaker 1: is in my top five and I love Yay. But
Speaker 1: Yay is the first time I started getting that energy
Speaker 1: like I'm better than the streets, I'm better than you
Speaker 1: niggas that was the first time I felt it. Not
Speaker 1: saying it was true. I'm not saying it's his message.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that trap it was.
Speaker 4: It was the pig Polo coming through looking like the
Speaker 4: Peppy Boys. Stand was it was? It like was it
Speaker 4: wasn't the Raps because he was talking about being being
Speaker 4: an everyday man.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I don't think hip hop is about being the
Speaker 1: everyday man. I think hip hop is about being us
Speaker 1: every day like And I don't mean just like at
Speaker 1: the elite level of blackness. I mean like talking like us,
Speaker 1: being like us, really being a part of the have not.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I never got that from everywhere.
Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1: I did find different people who just mess with words.
Speaker 1: They were like dope guys of English words. They would
Speaker 1: just flip English words. I'm not saying that again. I
Speaker 1: really tread carefully when I talk about Kanye West, because
Speaker 1: everybody knows Charlotte.
Speaker 2: Everybody know I.
Speaker 1: Love Yay, so you know, I really have to protect
Speaker 1: his legacy as much as I can critique it. So
Speaker 1: I feel like he is the first thing where people
Speaker 1: felt like he was not he was completely away from
Speaker 1: the streets. That was the first time people ever got
Speaker 1: that feeling like and people felt like they had something
Speaker 1: right that was a little bit more suburban. So people
Speaker 1: that was from the suburbs could be like, oh, I
Speaker 1: came in through Kanye. It's not so much that you know, like,
Speaker 1: it's not about shout out to Kevin. It's not about
Speaker 1: him not writing the raps. He didn't write his rap
Speaker 1: Puff didn't write his raps. That's not I'm not saying
Speaker 1: the art merit of it, right, but what I'm saying is.
Speaker 2: The cultural part of it.
Speaker 1: Like I think Yay is the first person you know,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna sound crazy, but he's the first person
Speaker 1: that I felt like culturally he was fucking generic.
Speaker 4: So so let me ask you this, right, So we
Speaker 4: were just saying about the voice of the voiceless, right,
Speaker 4: so you didn't feel as if somebody that came from
Speaker 4: the hood but went to college, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: should have had a voice within him, say my soul.
Speaker 2: That's tried to me. That's what that feels like.
Speaker 1: He come from he come from different, though he's different
Speaker 1: them niggas still felt like, like, forgive me for lack
Speaker 1: of better words. They still felt like slaves, they still
Speaker 1: felt like people that somewhere they came from poor people
Speaker 1: and they went to college. Yay, felt like a freedman
Speaker 1: who went to college. I'm talking about the first album, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about College Dropout. As much as I love
Speaker 1: that record, Like, I think he used soul samples to
Speaker 1: make us feel a deeper story, what's happening when his
Speaker 1: story was surface and ship, his culture was surface.
Speaker 2: Human being in America broke his break break. That's normal.
Speaker 1: People break bones, especially people that get in car accidents.
Speaker 1: That's an all American story.
Speaker 3: Like if the.
Speaker 1: Depth of your struggle or your all American story is like, hey,
Speaker 1: I got in a car accident and I had insurance
Speaker 1: and I rehab myself and I wanted to wrap.
Speaker 2: I just don't know how, and don't get me wrong,
Speaker 2: like again, bro, like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's what Eddie Winslow already did it. It
Speaker 1: was on television, theo Huxtable did. It was on television
Speaker 1: like that. We didn't need it here it was. It
Speaker 1: was not a voice of the voiceless. It was never
Speaker 1: not represented in mainstream I'm not on you revenge.
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not on you, bro, I'm not saying that.
Speaker 1: Look, this is why I don't never be one that
Speaker 1: had his conversation, which y'all it.
Speaker 4: Needs to happen. Though it needs to happen, man, come on,
Speaker 4: it didn't need.
Speaker 1: To happen because I'm telling you that opened the door
Speaker 1: for a Jewish man that can use the N word.
Speaker 1: Because they was like, well, he's like him. No, he
Speaker 1: is not like this guy or maybe.
Speaker 6: Her Chicago man some degree, but it is different.
Speaker 2: Let me stop, because that was that's a little lo like.
Speaker 1: Again, Man's like, that's when hip hop started going against
Speaker 1: the streets. Like the depth of college dropout was about
Speaker 1: working at the mall being accused of stealing pants. That
Speaker 1: is not some unique black story. It is not a
Speaker 1: story that needed to be told.
Speaker 2: And I don't think I.
Speaker 3: Think it did. It did.
Speaker 2: That's a standard story in America.
Speaker 4: Listen, listen, heavy Black people are not a mono lift.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying that we're.
Speaker 2: About black people.
Speaker 4: No, but but all right, But the struggle comes in
Speaker 4: different ways though, be you know what I'm saying. It
Speaker 4: don't just come from y'all. I gotta sell drugs. This
Speaker 4: that this no, it comes from yo. Listen, I gotta
Speaker 4: wake up and go to.
Speaker 3: Work, and.
Speaker 1: It's about the struggle unique to street urban culture. Of
Speaker 1: course people in hip hop had just that street urban No,
Speaker 1: he said.
Speaker 2: He did not say it was boosted.
Speaker 3: He was still the store.
Speaker 2: No, he said.
Speaker 1: They accused him of stilling o the store and everybody
Speaker 1: that get a college job steals the store, all the
Speaker 1: white people. I'm telling you, bro, look shout out to
Speaker 1: super Jedi.
Speaker 2: This is a fact. I don't think college drop out.
Speaker 2: It didn't. It did not age.
Speaker 3: Well mind that's it did.
Speaker 2: Yes, No, it did. I think the music aged.
Speaker 1: The message sounds like he wants hip hop to just
Speaker 1: be for black folks. Of course, not the fact that, okay,
Speaker 1: two K grind, you might not be black. Everybody that
Speaker 1: come from street urban culture is not black. The story
Speaker 1: al Capone like you know, Whitey Bulger. They white people, yo,
Speaker 1: Jewish people come from the ghetto. It's a lot of
Speaker 1: people who praying from the ghetto.
Speaker 3: It's everywhere.
Speaker 1: So yes, okay, so you are black, So again, forgive me, brother,
Speaker 1: that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying, of course, I
Speaker 1: don't want it to just be for black people. I
Speaker 1: wanted to stay of street urban culture because that's the
Speaker 1: thing that makes it special. If it becomes just mainstream
Speaker 1: and every person could use it, it doesn't matter, No
Speaker 1: Jesus Walks didn't age well, yes it did. Didn't age well,
Speaker 1: yes it did. No, it didn't right now, don't let
Speaker 1: me wrong. But again, college dropout, it's not quite my beautiful, dark,
Speaker 1: twisted fantasy.
Speaker 3: But that was that. That was because it was a
Speaker 3: different It was different, sis.
Speaker 1: No, that's because I think Kanye West took off the
Speaker 1: training wheels. I think college drop out is jay On
Speaker 1: training wheel. I think, uh, late registration is jay On
Speaker 1: training wheels. I think graduation is jay On training.
Speaker 3: No, no, I'm not letting you do that.
Speaker 2: I'm not training.
Speaker 4: That's the best trilogy to ever come out of hip hop, right,
Speaker 4: it's the best trilogy to ever come out of No,
Speaker 4: and it's the least.
Speaker 2: And it's the least hip hop of all hip hop?
Speaker 3: How the hell is it the least? You just die? No,
Speaker 3: music is the key of hip hop. Those are not
Speaker 3: what I said.
Speaker 1: But that's not what I said, But I honored the thought.
Speaker 1: That's not what I said. Yes, I am a Kanye fan.
Speaker 1: But revenge just because I'm a fan of somebody and
Speaker 1: I support them. They are not above critigue. So that's
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Speaker 1: Like I think that's like Kanye understood what the music
Speaker 1: needed to be to translate to us.
Speaker 2: I think he is.
Speaker 1: Very much a scientist, but I think when you listen
Speaker 1: to the depth of what's going on on the records,
Speaker 1: it just don't really have no depth.
Speaker 3: Get out of here. I'm not going for that man.
Speaker 4: That man was speaking for these, for these he was
Speaker 4: the voice of the voiceless of the and that's why
Speaker 4: that whole triller. He stayed within the college people. They
Speaker 4: didn't have no you saying it's quest did a video
Speaker 4: on top of the cleaners on Lindon Bulevard, the street.
Speaker 3: There wasn't no college, motherfucker. They were street niggas big,
Speaker 3: but they were street niggas that went to college.
Speaker 4: Some niggas ain't going to college got signed to like
Speaker 4: sixteen I.
Speaker 3: Went to college.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, that's the feel of it. The people in college.
Speaker 1: Black people in college need a fuck. They have a
Speaker 1: fucking TV show, A Different World is all about black college.
Speaker 1: It's no, they're not voiceless. College is the loudest voice
Speaker 1: in the world.
Speaker 3: Him is not a real school. You know that, right?
Speaker 3: Who know him? Is not a real school? Right? He's
Speaker 3: a him him and is not.
Speaker 2: A real school.
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I'm saying No, it's not a real school. He's crazy.
Speaker 2: No glasses loves backpack era.
Speaker 1: Glasses love backpack era, Like, it's not backpack. Kanye is
Speaker 1: not a backpack rapper.
Speaker 4: Was a fake, That's my point. He's a braggadocious rapper.
Speaker 4: It's a bragadocious rapper. That's what it is.
Speaker 1: That's my point. Like, he's not a backpack rapper. And
Speaker 1: this is the crazy part. Everybody who wants to get
Speaker 1: in hip hop that really that is not drenched in culture.
Speaker 1: All they gotta do is lie and tell people they're
Speaker 1: a backpack rapper. All they gotta do is start rapping
Speaker 1: with backpack rappers.
Speaker 4: Level.
Speaker 2: If you not like a cultural dude, the easiest way
Speaker 2: to get.
Speaker 1: In is through the conscious side, because you could just
Speaker 1: act like you like a backpack rapper.
Speaker 2: I swear to God, bro Like that used to be.
Speaker 1: The argument with people when I would critigue Drake on
Speaker 1: his street urban culture presence through his music. They'd be like,
Speaker 1: when he did songs with Little Brother and he rapped
Speaker 1: on all of these was.
Speaker 6: Look the rest in peace, theylla deylla, he rapped Odyla.
Speaker 2: Like he rapped on it. I'm like, cuz I hate
Speaker 2: that that.
Speaker 1: Is the entry level into motherfuck to where you be
Speaker 1: like that's hip hop because you know he wrapped it.
Speaker 1: He knows Deyla is fucking Dela passed away and was
Speaker 1: main Street.
Speaker 2: Every fucking body likes Little Brother. Everybody. If you go
Speaker 2: to a Little Brother concert, everybody is there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know what I think it is though,
Speaker 4: because it's no it's no authenticity. Check within that with
Speaker 4: within that that side right there, so you don't gotta
Speaker 4: check it. Nobody's gonna check it. See does he really
Speaker 4: mean what he's saying right now about this conscious rap
Speaker 4: that he's doing though, you know what I'm saying, just
Speaker 4: delivered to.
Speaker 2: A Guccie backpack. A Gucci backpack is the antithesis.
Speaker 1: It's the It's the antonym of fucking conscious and fucking backpack.
Speaker 3: You gotta have a jance for it. You gotta have
Speaker 3: a chance for it.
Speaker 2: You cannot have it defeats the purpose.
Speaker 1: If you have a fucking Gucci backpack as a backpacker
Speaker 1: like you, that's like having lightly seasoned soul food.
Speaker 2: It's like cooking spinish.
Speaker 1: Like greens that don't go together.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've seen that video the other day, right and
Speaker 4: the dude or first. The video shows old girl season,
Speaker 4: her sees her chocoal.
Speaker 6: She season the chocolate and white, and the white man
Speaker 6: was like, Okay, we got at least lightly season and chicken.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw that good white people be done.
Speaker 1: Where they fucking season in the chargo. So okay, Wait,
Speaker 1: are you saying shout out to the homie don dubs?
Speaker 3: Wait?
Speaker 1: Are you saying middle class kids can't be hip hop? No,
Speaker 1: that's not what I'm saying. That's not what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Everybody can be a rapper. I'm saying, but street urban culture.
Speaker 1: Middle class kids need to be bathed in eat urban
Speaker 1: culture to be hip hop. There is nothing not voiced
Speaker 1: about a middle class lifestyle.
Speaker 2: Nothing.
Speaker 1: Most programs are about middle class lifestyle. So I'm not
Speaker 1: saying middle class people can't be hip hop. I'm telling
Speaker 1: you they have to be bathed in street urban culture.
Speaker 1: Mind you right. Inglewood is considered a middle class community.
Speaker 1: Carsoner is considered a middle class community. It's not middle class.
Speaker 1: They just can't be middle class middle class. They still
Speaker 1: need to be street urban cultured middle class people. Shout
Speaker 1: I'll tell okay from the bad glasses in this hot
Speaker 1: tape this is not a damn hot take. Olka, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's not a damn hot I'm out of y'all making
Speaker 1: it like my takes is hot just because I'm making
Speaker 1: you think a little bit more.
Speaker 3: He cook, he cook, He just cooking.
Speaker 1: I'm not giving you a hot take. Hip Hop can
Speaker 1: come inside of your house, right It could be your parents.
Speaker 1: You can live in a suburb, but if your parents
Speaker 1: is a bunch of street people, your ass hip hop. Listen,
Speaker 1: your parents can be good people, but if they raise
Speaker 1: you in the community, your ass hip hop. You could
Speaker 1: be somebody who your parents are not hip hop, and
Speaker 1: your neighborhood particularly is not hip hop. But then when
Speaker 1: you go to school, your whole life, all you do
Speaker 1: is running too street urban culture people. All you do
Speaker 1: is run to them, and you still could be hip hop.
Speaker 1: But you gotta be somewhere bathe in street urban culture.
Speaker 1: I do not want to hear middle class people rapping
Speaker 1: about being fucking middle class. That's not hip hop. Just
Speaker 1: because you can rap don't make you hip hop. Just
Speaker 1: because you like jay Z don't make you hip hop.
Speaker 1: I don't care how much you emulated. If you don't
Speaker 1: speak the language, if you don't understand the fashion. If
Speaker 1: you don't understand what makes this thing special, you are not.
Speaker 4: I think it should show your pinches that you got
Speaker 4: up in the in the stool one day. Yeah, some
Speaker 4: dope ass pictures. Fine, some dope pictures like that you got.
Speaker 4: You got a bunch of them ships, older man kings
Speaker 4: of hip hop right there.
Speaker 3: That's just fire.
Speaker 1: So again, like I'm not saying, I'm not saying, no
Speaker 1: middle class people rapping about middle class ship is not
Speaker 1: hip hop. It's not. You don't fucking need hip hop, bro,
Speaker 1: you don't fucking need hip hop. Fuck man, you don't
Speaker 1: fucking need hip hop.
Speaker 3: Bro. What they got though, what they got though.
Speaker 1: Music, Man, they fucking already got popping.
Speaker 2: They already have representation.
Speaker 3: Iro's not a representation of nobody.
Speaker 2: It's a representation of most Americans. It's regular. Look you,
Speaker 2: m h. I'm saying, no, we hip hop doesn't need that.
Speaker 3: No you.
Speaker 1: If you have a Gucci backpack, that's not no fucking backpack.
Speaker 1: That's not what they mean when they said backpack. Shout
Speaker 1: out to two K grind on nine. Will Smith won't
Speaker 1: like not been. Will Smith is from Philadelphia. He did
Speaker 1: not avoid the Colture.
Speaker 2: He could not He could not avoid the coach. Will
Speaker 2: Smith could not avoid the culture.
Speaker 3: It was outside of his house.
Speaker 1: Said, look, there's a very general line, right, there's a
Speaker 1: very general line. If you're in Philadelphia, your ass is
Speaker 1: the coachure. I don't care which part of Philadelphia you
Speaker 1: It's fucking Philadelphia. So yo, Yeah, Will Smith is the
Speaker 1: fucking coach. I don't care what money they got. It's Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: You can't even they don't even have a nice neighbor
Speaker 1: hoods in Philadelphia, bro, Like the best neighborhood in Philadelphia
Speaker 1: still look like you somewhere close to the bullshit, Like
Speaker 1: Philadelphia is a unique place. I went out there, hung
Speaker 1: with Deshan Jackson. Shout out to d jack first Battle
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer in football. Eventually just amazing talent from LA.
Speaker 1: I went to his house. He lived in a nice mansion.
Speaker 1: That shit looked like we were still in the hood. So, yes,
Speaker 1: Will Smith is fucking hip hop. He's from fucking West Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: I don't care if it is a middle class community.
Speaker 1: It is surrounded in nigga shit in culture. Yes, Will
Speaker 1: Smith is fucking hip hop Kanye Yes, Like I struggled
Speaker 1: to understand what's going on.
Speaker 2: But I really think.
Speaker 1: He's it's more music than him, right, it's more music
Speaker 1: than him. But again, that's a whole other conversation, and
Speaker 1: y'all obviously not ready to have it. I'll be thinking,
Speaker 1: y'all be on this thing making shit with me, but
Speaker 1: y'all really don't. Y'all just be making me think I'm
Speaker 1: fucking crazy, like y'all don't know, Like a fucking car
Speaker 1: accident ain't fucking that's regular. That's American shit. And I'm
Speaker 1: not mad at it because he used a Shaka con temple.
Speaker 1: That shit brought it home that nigga had insurance in
Speaker 1: a car accident. I think that's great. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: he's not hip hop demo. I'm not saying that, bro,
Speaker 1: It's not what I'm saying. I'm just thinking out loud.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking out loud. I'm thinking out loud. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying he's not hip hop. Obviously, I think Drake's not
Speaker 1: hip hop. I'm sure Drake's not hip hop, right. I
Speaker 1: think obviously Post Malone is not hip hop. There's a
Speaker 1: few people that I know that are not hip hop, right,
Speaker 1: But that don't make them not fantastic rappers. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying Kanye is not hip hop. I thought about it,
Speaker 1: and I'm saying when I when I listen to his raps,
Speaker 1: they are middle class raps. To some degree, they are
Speaker 1: middle class raps. But I can't jump out on the ledge.
Speaker 1: But that's also bro why he also is doing shit
Speaker 1: that we be thinking is crazy, like running around with
Speaker 1: this white lady and all this dumb ass shit. That's
Speaker 1: why we be looking at him strange. He's ours, but
Speaker 1: we'd be looking like, what the fuck are you doing?
Speaker 1: Like that's you ever noticed? That's why that shit be happening, Like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck is happening? What are you fucking doing?
Speaker 1: Why did this lady walking around with tape on as
Speaker 1: an outfit? She taped her titties and taped her ass
Speaker 1: and taped her vagina, and that's her fucking outfit.
Speaker 2: Think about it.
Speaker 1: He said, as a fucking teenager or as a kid,
Speaker 1: he had a picture of Maryland Monroe on his fucking wall.
Speaker 1: Who the fuck like Maryland Monroe when we was young,
Speaker 1: see revenge, This is revenge. You grew up in the suburbs, right,
Speaker 1: I think it's in Tennessee right, who You didn't have
Speaker 1: no picture, no fucking Marilyn Monroe as no fucking thirteen
Speaker 1: all the finance sisters out in the nineties, in the eighties,
Speaker 1: you had a picture of Marilyn Monroe. No, you fucking didn't.
Speaker 1: Then none of us think Marilyn Monroe was fine. That
Speaker 1: was the white lady that was sleeping with the president.
Speaker 1: That's all we knew about her. She was kind of
Speaker 1: cute when she was sleeping. She was like a little
Speaker 1: slut sleep with the president. Forgive me, because that lady
Speaker 1: passed away. So I don't want to just be shitting
Speaker 1: on that lady. None of us had no I swear
Speaker 1: to god, the man said he had Marilyn Monroe on
Speaker 1: his wall.
Speaker 2: Kanye be talking some shit, and I'm not mad at him.
Speaker 2: I think he is great.
Speaker 1: Guinea's in my top five. It's fucking Kanye West. I'm
Speaker 1: just being honest with the critigue. Like this is something
Speaker 1: he said, look at this white lady. Keep he keep
Speaker 1: bouncing from white lady to white lady, right, keep bouncing.
Speaker 1: It's like you got this white lady that looked like
Speaker 1: the last white lady and she.
Speaker 3: Walking around with no that shit.
Speaker 1: It's weird to us. No, everybody from Cali is not
Speaker 1: hip hop. Cali is a huge state where people don't
Speaker 1: all have to be in hip hop, so we don't.
Speaker 1: We're not like Philadelphia. Now, if you came from Compton,
Speaker 1: Compton is like Philadelphia. That's like Philadelphia. Philadelphia is like
Speaker 1: even in nice areas. The culture is the culture. You
Speaker 1: ain't getting away from it. I don't care what you
Speaker 1: do in Philadelphia, your ass is gonna get the coature
Speaker 1: because Philly ain't no fucking joke. They that's a dope
Speaker 1: ass deep town. So again, I'm not saying, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: not hip hop. I'm just critiguing what I noticed the
Speaker 1: more I learned about what hip hop was for me.
Speaker 1: So again, like y'all gotta ease up. Stop definding. I'm
Speaker 1: not attacking your right to hip hop. I'm telling you
Speaker 1: what it is. That's all I'm saying. Bro, Like that
Speaker 1: man be doing some crazy shit that don't represent all
Speaker 1: of us. And that is the one thing, Like, what
Speaker 1: is being black? If it ain't about how you treat
Speaker 1: other black people? It's being black about how white people
Speaker 1: treat you or how you treat other black people. You
Speaker 1: get what I'm saying, how you see other black people,
Speaker 1: you just be doing some crazy shit. That's my man, bro.
Speaker 2: Real story.
Speaker 1: Kanye liked my music early on, and a lot of
Speaker 1: people say Bro, like gee, people will think Glasses getting
Speaker 1: his own way, and I get why they say that.
Speaker 2: Shout out to.
Speaker 1: Pun from the community, different homies who think I get
Speaker 1: my way because I really stand on certain things and
Speaker 1: it's not just standing for nothing, Like I don't just
Speaker 1: be tripping, but I see it differently. I really care
Speaker 1: about what people think of me and my community. That
Speaker 1: shit matter to me, Like I don't need billions of dollars,
Speaker 1: Like I make more than enough money to take care
Speaker 1: of myself. Now you know what I'm saying. So I
Speaker 1: don't need millions of dollars for verification. I'm really the
Speaker 1: nigga in real life. I walk around every day and
Speaker 1: I'm that nigga that don't change. It ain't a room
Speaker 1: of people that I've been in. I could be in
Speaker 1: a room with Dog and I'm that nigga in that
Speaker 1: room with Snoop Dogg. It's fucking Snoop Dogg, and I'm
Speaker 1: that nigga. I could be in a room with Doctor
Speaker 1: Dre and people asking me questions because I'm that nigga
Speaker 1: for real. I'm not talking shit. I'm saying culturally, is
Speaker 1: just this thing going on that I represent it truly
Speaker 1: like it's really me. So I don't have the insecurity
Speaker 1: that I need a bunch of extra economics or excess economics.
Speaker 1: Feel me to be somebody no matter which room I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm that nigga. People looking at me, they gonna stop
Speaker 1: and talk. So but if being black is not how
Speaker 1: you treat other black people or how you see black
Speaker 1: people what I'm saying, then what is it?
Speaker 2: What is it?
Speaker 3: Bro Like?
Speaker 2: What is it?
Speaker 1: Here's a real story, two real stories that people felt
Speaker 1: like I got in my own way. First story, Kanye
Speaker 1: West loved me. He thought I was dope, told the
Speaker 1: Homeboy plane Pat shout out to John Monopoly. John Monopoly
Speaker 1: is my man. Y'all heard his name. I heard his
Speaker 1: name a million times around the conye cecle. John Monopoly
Speaker 1: is an early fan of Glasses Malone, same for Loupez Yasco,
Speaker 1: same for Chile, the early fans of Glasses Malone, and
Speaker 1: really thought that I was a phenomenon when it comes
Speaker 1: to culting, right, I didn't even know what the fuck
Speaker 1: it was. But they was into what I was doing.
Speaker 1: Shout out to jay Z to this day. Still love right,
Speaker 1: still text me say dope, shit, that's not the point.
Speaker 1: So Kanye was an early believer in Glasses Malone I
Speaker 1: got certified. He's like, man, I want to work with
Speaker 1: that dude. So they say, hey, Glasses, come to the studio.
Speaker 1: This is the same studio that Hit Boy work at.
Speaker 1: Right now, Uh, what's the name of the studio.
Speaker 7: I don't know anyway, where it's at on l A
Speaker 7: sound like lebre Anyway, Long story short, Kanye wants me
Speaker 7: to come to the studio.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I love Kanye. You know this is
Speaker 1: early Kanye. This is two thousand.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get to that all in. I got you.
Speaker 2: Let me get to that. Let me finish this.
Speaker 1: So I go to the studio playing pat like, man,
Speaker 1: Glass come up here, Kanye want to meet with you,
Speaker 1: blah blah. I'm like, all right, cool, Like, I like Kanye,
Speaker 1: this is two thousand and eight. Sell them eight, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I'm like yeah, yeah, I like Yay.
Speaker 1: That's the dude that got the college drop out and
Speaker 1: you know lay registration. Yeah, that dude is tough. So
Speaker 1: I go to the studio. I'm like, all right, uh
Speaker 1: I meet the front desk. They say, okay, he's in
Speaker 1: the back studio right here, just go a way for him.
Speaker 1: He had to go grab some stuff. I said, no problem,
Speaker 1: So I walked back there. I walk in the room.
Speaker 2: It's a bunch of fucking candles lit.
Speaker 1: Like old candles, like brass candles, cuz they just all
Speaker 1: lit up candles everywhere cuse they lit up in the
Speaker 1: room dark.
Speaker 2: So I walked in the room and I'm.
Speaker 1: Just sitting there and it's just a hundred fucking candles
Speaker 1: lit and it's dark, and these candles look weird. Cousin,
Speaker 1: I'm like, the fuck is going on? Cuz so he's
Speaker 1: about to put you in. They're about to put you in,
Speaker 1: about to put you in. Illuminati's about you.
Speaker 7: Nah.
Speaker 1: No, I just didn't understand how. I didn't understand how
Speaker 1: vibe work at the time, because again, I'm really the coat.
Speaker 1: I didn't understand vibe. I'm not gonna say that because
Speaker 1: I don't believe Yay is like that. That's one nigga.
Speaker 1: Nobody count That's what nigga came. Nobody convinced me of
Speaker 1: about spirituality. That's the one thing we didn't argue about
Speaker 1: history that as been coaching this or even sometimes his
Speaker 1: blackness could be weird. But one thing spiritually, I know
Speaker 1: we are in alignment. You feel me, but I didn't
Speaker 1: understand vibe. So it's all these candles because and they
Speaker 1: brass and gold and shit, and I'm like, what the
Speaker 1: fuck cauz like I don't know what's going on, Like
Speaker 1: I don't know what's happening, Like, what the fuck is
Speaker 1: going on? Because this shit is horrible? So I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: long story short three minutes. I'm like, I can't be
Speaker 1: in here, bro, I gotta go.
Speaker 2: So I just leave.
Speaker 1: I don't go tell plane Pat, I don't hit but
Speaker 1: not I don't say nothing. I just get on. About
Speaker 1: twenty minutes.
Speaker 2: Pat hit me. He like, gee, when youre at, I
Speaker 2: was like, gonna have to go do something cause you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: He's like, all right, just let me know when you're
Speaker 1: coming back. I never went back.
Speaker 4: That was your chance, be to get at the ruin
Speaker 4: AI be you will shit it be you wushit it
Speaker 4: to the roof right now? What that was your moment suh.
Speaker 1: I couldn't do it, cause it just I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I was ignorant. But I just like, so I'm saying this,
Speaker 1: I don't believe cousins on no bullshit.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't, no, bro, And I'm not having it. I'm
Speaker 1: not having it. I'm not having it because I'm murdering
Speaker 1: right now. This glass is the lowe because I'm hopping
Speaker 1: out and I'm still worse right now.
Speaker 3: But I'm not having it.
Speaker 1: But at least I understood vibe because now my studio
Speaker 1: be dark and I got lights. They go up in
Speaker 1: the sky, cuts and clouds and lights and ship to
Speaker 1: keep the arm beyond Popper, so I get on beyond.
Speaker 1: I didn't get it. Then, I didn't get it, like
Speaker 1: setting the workspace, I didn't know. But I'm being honest
Speaker 1: saying that, like I'm not having it if it's Kanye,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's Michael Jackson, because turn the
Speaker 1: lights on. See the real life, I should have just
Speaker 1: turned the fucking lights on. The yeah, more glasses glasses
Speaker 1: today would walk in and just turn the fucking lights
Speaker 1: on and walk back of that motherfucker.
Speaker 2: I turn them lights off.
Speaker 1: How I would impose my will on the space glasses today?
Speaker 1: Would impose his will on the space glasses? Then, wouldn't
Speaker 1: impose his will on the space glasses today, would just
Speaker 1: turn the lights on. I'll walk in, turn the lights on.
Speaker 1: Say what I gotta say? Keep it moving. I mean, like, hey,
Speaker 1: turn the lights on. This shit weird, because that's what
Speaker 1: I felt. So that's one thing, right, Second thing is Drake. Right,
Speaker 1: This is a real story with Drake, and he probably
Speaker 1: mad that I tell a story because you rich anyway,
Speaker 1: stop don't stop backing like that, because it's true.
Speaker 2: So Drake was trying to build more of a relationship
Speaker 2: with me.
Speaker 1: But I felt like with me it would always have
Speaker 1: this weird energy where it was like, yo, we all
Speaker 1: signed to cash money, but like like I knew, like
Speaker 1: I was the streets and I didn't really care that
Speaker 1: he was successful, Like you know that never meant that
Speaker 1: to forgive me. I know this sound crazy to y'all,
Speaker 1: but I really believe in masculinity, Like you could have
Speaker 1: a million dollars and I could have ten dollars and
Speaker 1: you not the nigga I am. If you not who
Speaker 1: you truly are, Like if I see any dessension of
Speaker 1: who you truly are. Like, if you act like you
Speaker 1: want to be somebody you not for two seconds, we're
Speaker 1: probably not going to be cool.
Speaker 2: I'm just being honest. That's just how.
Speaker 1: It's not on purpose, because it's who I am, it's
Speaker 1: my existence. I fought to be me. I fought my
Speaker 1: homies to beat me. I fought niggas from other neighborhoods
Speaker 1: than me. I shot to be me niggas used to
Speaker 1: the homies. Oh man, guess you want some smart shit.
Speaker 1: I'm ana squabbler, nigga. Damn bitch. You can't even whoop me.
Speaker 1: Whatever you thought you was can't out beat me. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna make all this work for this for me. So like,
Speaker 1: if you show any dissension about appreciation and who you are,
Speaker 1: and I see you giving up a little bit, like
Speaker 1: if you if you are square and you trying to
Speaker 1: act street, You're not going to really like how we're
Speaker 1: gonna interact. It's not gonna work out for you. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be bad. You gotta be yourself, pure and unadults reated.
Speaker 1: You gotta be yourself. So I noticed that being around
Speaker 1: because a couple of times so it was starting to
Speaker 1: evolve me into space where I'm like, yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know if.
Speaker 2: I'm really gonna fuck with dude like this, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like not not that I didn't think he was gonna
Speaker 1: be tough or be the best rapper in the game,
Speaker 1: Like the nigga was sharp because hello, dope, like he
Speaker 1: was brilliant and they really wanted me to work with him.
Speaker 1: Shout out to the armies like Day was pushing it.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, you gotta be authentic. That's why me
Speaker 1: and nipples. So that's why me and kid youre get
Speaker 1: sirted them niggas is really who they is. I can
Speaker 1: you don't gotta be gangster, you just gotta really be
Speaker 1: well they both gangsters.
Speaker 2: Who is not a gangster?
Speaker 3: That really?
Speaker 2: Uh Loope is street too, So I can't say Loupe.
Speaker 1: Pete.
Speaker 3: Pete.
Speaker 1: Pete is a perfect example the god do the large
Speaker 1: thing with Pete ain't no fucking gangster. But that's my man,
Speaker 1: because Pete's Pete. Even when he's crazy and he's talking crazy,
Speaker 1: Peter's Pete still ain't no Still it's still so it's
Speaker 1: not that. So we going to an ev for Wayne's
Speaker 1: birthday party, right, and it's an event in Hollywood. It's
Speaker 1: over there behind like it's off of Librea and Santa Monica.
Speaker 1: It's off of Lobrea and Santa Monica. And huh no, no,
Speaker 1: this is a this is a weird place that they
Speaker 1: used to do parties at. It's not like a restaurant.
Speaker 1: It's like a like a set, like like a stage
Speaker 1: set type place. But they do parties over there. You
Speaker 1: do a lot of big parties over here. So me,
Speaker 1: pun a couple of us go to the party, right,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna tell a story. So we hop out.
Speaker 1: We mobbed up to the party. I'm talking to bird
Speaker 1: Man because I'm taxing cause it's very sus Okay, No,
Speaker 1: actually it ain't sus It actually is that. It's not
Speaker 1: sus What do you sus is when you think it
Speaker 1: could be gay, that area is actually gay. And you
Speaker 1: know you don't take your ass over there. If you
Speaker 1: see a girl, it's probably a guy. You know that.
Speaker 1: And that's why it's nothing wrong with it. You know,
Speaker 1: when you're getting that area, it is not sus It
Speaker 1: is committed. It is not suspect. It's not a suspected area.
Speaker 2: That is convicted.
Speaker 3: You know what it is life.
Speaker 1: It is not a suspect. It's guilty. Okay, that area
Speaker 1: is guilty. You know what's happening. But that's where, you know,
Speaker 1: the entertainment industry do all of that shit. So you
Speaker 1: you know you in the industry cause you gotta go
Speaker 1: over there. And that's cool. Like I you know, I
Speaker 1: don't have no problem with nobody that's doing their thing
Speaker 1: because just be you. If you a man that think
Speaker 1: you a woman, just do you whatever, just be you unapologetically.
Speaker 1: So we hop out the car met pun and y'all
Speaker 1: can go to the community and verify this. We walking
Speaker 1: up a couple of us niggas like, Lass, what's up now?
Speaker 2: I'm like, what up, Crev? We're doing?
Speaker 1: Drake is coming up behind me. He's calling my name.
Speaker 1: I see cousin, but I'm mobbing, huh, Like, Hey, this nigga,
Speaker 1: Drake call you. I'm like, yeah, I see that cause
Speaker 1: I talked the cousin. He's calling me classes Hey glasses, Jay,
Speaker 1: you hear it up. I am not turning around for
Speaker 1: cuz because I'm trying to get in here. But it's not, Honestly,
Speaker 1: it's not just because it's because he just gave me
Speaker 1: vibes of like insecure. I don't like insecure men. I
Speaker 1: just don't because I like. It's not I don't like him,
Speaker 1: I just don't vibe well. So that's another time cause
Speaker 1: where it's like, so I am proud of who I am,
Speaker 1: and I want everybody else to be proud of who
Speaker 1: they are. And if you tell me you not, I
Speaker 1: could deal with it. But when you have a false
Speaker 1: sense of pride, we're not probably going to be okay.
Speaker 1: If you falsely represent yourself, we are not going to
Speaker 1: be okay. You we are not the one thing with
Speaker 1: me and Charlotte Manine at work in our relationship. He
Speaker 1: is who he is Van Layton, he is who he is.
Speaker 1: We gonna be fine. We could be on the opposite
Speaker 1: side of the street and we're gonna be fine because
Speaker 1: I can get with that. I could fuck with that.
Speaker 1: I could fuck with a man that's who he is.
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck. If you don't believe in fighting.
Speaker 1: If you Martin Luther King and you not gonna punch
Speaker 1: another motherfucker back, and your whole movement is built on
Speaker 1: not hitting the motherfucker.
Speaker 2: Back, I could fuck with that.
Speaker 1: I can't fuck with a motherfucker talking tough, Like if
Speaker 1: Martin Luther King was popping it and then now the
Speaker 1: police kicking your ass and you ain't doing nothing. Me
Speaker 1: and Martin Luther King couldn't be hommies. We just couldn't
Speaker 1: fucking be humpy. But Martin the King on his non
Speaker 1: violent movement and he's not gonna fight back long as
Speaker 1: he's honest, I can rock. So that's where we come
Speaker 1: into a space in a business. I'm just not with
Speaker 1: none of the other shit that's not tough. Shout out
Speaker 1: to my little hommy ad from the community. He thinks
Speaker 1: it's old fashioned, it's not. I'm a man, bro, I'm
Speaker 1: a man, unapologetically. I'm the lok unapologetically. I'm not doing
Speaker 1: nothing else beside this. There's no reason. Listen, I make
Speaker 1: six figures a year right now being me. I don't
Speaker 1: need seven figures to be somebody else. I mean maybe
Speaker 1: if I was acting in the Hollywood film. If they
Speaker 1: don't want to get me seven and they figures to
Speaker 1: act like somebody else, that's fine.
Speaker 2: I'll just live with these six figures. I'll take it.
Speaker 2: That works for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that ship if I can make six figures being me,
Speaker 1: That's that's enough.
Speaker 3: But I'm not.
Speaker 1: You can't pay me seven figures to act like somebody
Speaker 1: else that ain't on no Hollywood screen.
Speaker 3: It was, it was.
Speaker 4: It was great to you know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 4: a lot of people running around here and now I
Speaker 4: know who they are, So that's why they ended up
Speaker 4: acting like somebody that they not. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: When you understand who you is, then man, it's easy
Speaker 4: to be comfortable in your own skin then who you are.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 2: Let me get back to what Allan was saying.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, did mean to ignore you all in He
Speaker 1: asked me a question and post it and I just
Speaker 1: skipped shout out to Sean Akerman. Man, I appreciate the
Speaker 1: birthday gift for ten dollars my boy. Much love for
Speaker 1: that dog. Yeah, all they said, So what did that
Speaker 1: say on the thing that I had up there?
Speaker 2: Gee? We need a Tale live feature. I talked to Tyler.
Speaker 2: You know why fuck with talent?
Speaker 3: Tyler?
Speaker 1: It's really him, bro me and ty Lib is good.
Speaker 3: Bro niggast hating ty Lib on Twitter.
Speaker 1: He understands his brand and he dives down to it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna deliver that.
Speaker 2: I got you. I'm gonna get you that tile.
Speaker 4: That'll be dope. That'll be dope. I need to produce that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you do, you should? You should? Uh?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is the most important hip hop artist the last twenty years,
Speaker 1: next to Kendrick Probably not, probably not, that's probably Keith.
Speaker 2: Keith is probably probably not you said chief Keith is that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Keith is probably the most the most important artist
Speaker 1: over the last twenty years. Keith's phenomena.
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, bro, you just see it.
Speaker 1: I think Yay is the bridge to people not hip hop,
Speaker 1: like into hip hop.
Speaker 4: But but but see, at the same time, they have
Speaker 4: to be the one to put keep up on that
Speaker 4: level to where everybody was gonna be able to accept
Speaker 4: them like that though too.
Speaker 2: You mean all the white.
Speaker 1: People is gonna accept him because the black people already
Speaker 1: except the Keith, we was already up on that ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: is just a bitch people. He's a bridge going to
Speaker 1: white people and white people coming in. He's he's a
Speaker 1: different kind of keeper. He's a bridge. He's not a gatekeeper.
Speaker 1: He a bridge because he don't stop ship. He let
Speaker 1: all this ship come in. He don't care if it's
Speaker 1: somebody that hate.
Speaker 3: Niggas Taylor Swift.
Speaker 4: He don't get yea about Taylor Swiffer wasn't for that motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Yeah sure, he put on seven st He put Taylor
Speaker 1: Swift on my radar.
Speaker 3: Wen Taylor Swift on.
Speaker 2: My radar, bro I never knew. I was like, who
Speaker 2: is he talking?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 3: Who is he talking about?
Speaker 2: I was like, who is this person?
Speaker 1: And they kept showing this little white lady with this
Speaker 1: She was kind of flustered. I'm like, what is this
Speaker 1: little white lady?
Speaker 3: Even? For real? For real? That is a I don't
Speaker 3: even know how that.
Speaker 4: No, Look, the Bridge West Wild that's it right there.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not Look, I'm not saying hip hop
Speaker 1: gotta be thugging. I'm saying hip hop needs to be
Speaker 1: a street urban culture.
Speaker 2: It has to be.
Speaker 4: See why when you say that, they don't understand. They
Speaker 4: just think like gangster, don't They don't understand the street
Speaker 4: urban culture means.
Speaker 3: It's the way you walk, the way you talk, the
Speaker 3: way where you had.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that the way we carry
Speaker 1: but the way that is the way that poverty has found.
Speaker 2: And then don't get me on.
Speaker 1: Some middle class people adopted their whole life.
Speaker 2: They may don't need it, but they've been raised in it.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: That's the one thing about Yay Demo that I don't
Speaker 1: play with. That's why I will never I'm really careful.
Speaker 1: I will never say he's not hip hop because one
Speaker 1: thing that motherfucker.
Speaker 2: Got is audacity.
Speaker 1: That nigga do shit. You be like the audacity of
Speaker 1: this nigga. So that's why I don't play with ya.
Speaker 1: I don't fuck with ya like I won't. You don't
Speaker 1: hear me saying he's not hip hop. That nigga is
Speaker 1: sheer audacity, That nigga don't have no idea his rifle.
Speaker 2: That nigga is a cold, cold nigga.
Speaker 3: He is cold.
Speaker 2: So again that's my point. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's like.
Speaker 1: I get it, and he is, to me, the bridge
Speaker 1: that allowed others to come in and start acting like us.
Speaker 1: He's the ridge of that. So you know, it started
Speaker 1: being more like people before Yay they knew hip hop
Speaker 1: was them niggas. Even the day I sold the Tribe car. Course,
Speaker 1: what's one of the early niggas went to college. It
Speaker 1: was a couple of niggas went to college.
Speaker 3: It was a couple of mona.
Speaker 4: I think the entry level, Like like when it came
Speaker 4: to somebody being a college rapper.
Speaker 1: Not a college rapper, somebody, I mean somebody.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of people went to college that rap.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean in the earliest, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I knew that people that went to college, I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But they didn't put it in their music though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's not I don't want to hear no
Speaker 1: nigga rapping about going to college in his fucking music.
Speaker 4: The people that's in college want to hear this ship
Speaker 4: that's called rap music.
Speaker 2: It don't gotta be hip hop.
Speaker 1: Fuck man, it don't gotta be hip hop, Kenny g
Speaker 1: don't gotta be jazz.
Speaker 2: It can be pop music.
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, right, So in school days?
Speaker 4: Was they represented hip hop? In school days? The Spike
Speaker 4: We movie like the way they that's the way they
Speaker 4: was looking in the movie with the hairstyles they wore.
Speaker 1: Okay, so yes, yes, because they they look like the
Speaker 1: niggas from the ghetto.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm telling you. That's not what's happening with
Speaker 3: this come from the hood. To what's happened with ya.
Speaker 1: That that's not what happened with ya. He is not
Speaker 1: school days on tracks. That's not wise him a staff, right,
Speaker 1: len staff he was, he was doing all that shit
Speaker 1: things that he understood about college, but that's not he
Speaker 1: didn't look like that's not the same. He didn't feel
Speaker 1: that way, like there is a like there is a
Speaker 1: cultural experience at college right that is very much this right,
Speaker 1: but that's not him. That that wasn't him to me,
Speaker 1: Like Yay is a black man, that's the thing. Like
Speaker 1: he's a nigga. He got banked up audacity for sure.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying street urban culture. You know, I think
Speaker 1: he knows what and that's why I won't ever kick
Speaker 1: him out. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying, but he
Speaker 1: is where the very tippy top, the tippy top. If
Speaker 1: you go anywhere past that, that shit ain't hip hop.
Speaker 1: That's once you past that, that's it. You niggas have
Speaker 1: let somebody working in at right air and sh'ld be
Speaker 1: talking about how the customers be customery to make it
Speaker 1: hip hop.
Speaker 2: It could be fly ass rapped. It don't gotta be
Speaker 2: hip hop.
Speaker 4: It could still embody hip hop. Like we said at
Speaker 4: the beginning, when you are the voice of the voiceless,
Speaker 4: you are considered to be representing hip hop.
Speaker 1: So college is not a voiceless place. College is voiceless.
Speaker 1: Yes we do.
Speaker 6: There's been multiple shows and movies about what people going
Speaker 6: through in college.
Speaker 1: I know, I thought shit. College has covered as anything else.
Speaker 1: It's a ton of movies about college. Even the Black
Speaker 1: College has had a TV show for seven years.
Speaker 4: Hill Man is not a real school. Stop saying that. Man,
Speaker 4: you're talking about the show for seven years.
Speaker 1: It's not that I'm saying human is. I'm telling you
Speaker 1: that the college. But it's covered. There's no fake shows
Speaker 1: about the hood.
Speaker 2: Right now. There's not no TV shows about the hood.
Speaker 2: The closest one we.
Speaker 1: Got to was everybody thought it was the greatest one
Speaker 1: is about them niggas in Baltimore.
Speaker 3: They're talking about Baltimore, that them niggas.
Speaker 1: Uh, you know, that was the closest hood show we
Speaker 1: ever had. We don't got no fucking hood TV shows.
Speaker 1: If they make up, if they make a if they
Speaker 1: make a movie about LA culture is from the police's perspective,
Speaker 1: the cops perspective, the fucking father's perspective, the closest we
Speaker 1: got to is minuesus society. So again, it's like, yes,
Speaker 1: I don't think college. I don't think college has anything
Speaker 1: to do with it. I think black hood kids go
Speaker 1: to college.
Speaker 2: They really do.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, but if you start rapping about being that, like, okay,
Speaker 1: if you're a black hood kid rapping about going to college,
Speaker 1: that's dope.
Speaker 3: That's why he did.
Speaker 2: He didn't.
Speaker 1: He's not a black hood kid rapping about going to college.
Speaker 1: He rapped like a middle class nigga going to college
Speaker 1: and you.
Speaker 4: Know it, Chicago, on the South Side whatever it like Philly.
Speaker 1: That's why I won't play with his hood shit. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I won't say he's not the culture.
Speaker 1: Like same thing with Philly, Chicago, one of them places
Speaker 1: where your ass is gonna be culture. I don't give
Speaker 1: a fuck what you got going on.
Speaker 2: He is culture. It don't matter. His mom can moved
Speaker 2: into a nice neighborhood. I know she did.
Speaker 1: He had been raised by his mom, had a doctorates,
Speaker 1: I know she did. But he wasn't going to avoid
Speaker 1: the culture. He couldn't avoid it.
Speaker 4: You know what, though, he kind of listen were talking
Speaker 4: about college. He was kind of into college stuff too. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean it's called college date registration.
Speaker 3: But he's still made into the graduation up.
Speaker 1: But that I think about him succeeding in life, that
Speaker 1: would be my issue.
Speaker 2: It's just not black.
Speaker 1: If I had a critique, it's not black hood going
Speaker 1: to college, it's regular American going to college. But that's
Speaker 1: not true because he's from Chicago. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: If this was true, I would be saying he's not
Speaker 1: hip hop.
Speaker 3: He's definitely hip hop.
Speaker 1: But I'm not saying he's not. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He's from fucking the South Side of Chicago. Even in
Speaker 1: the suburbist most suburb area of south Side Chicago.
Speaker 2: It's fucking Chicago. It's Chicago.
Speaker 1: Now I'm not saying it's where keeping them from. I'm saying,
Speaker 1: but it's still Chicago. You're gonna run into the culture
Speaker 1: is gonna be right there. So I'm not saying about you.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, but he's the very tippy top of where
Speaker 1: hip hop is at.
Speaker 2: Like, once you passed Kanye, that shit ain't hip hop.
Speaker 3: So so past Kanye is Drake.
Speaker 1: Fuck yeah, because now you get a Jewish man raised
Speaker 1: in a Jewish community using slang words from all over
Speaker 1: the country, just like anything goes.
Speaker 2: So, No, that's not hip hop. I'm not letting that show.
Speaker 4: So Kanye shout owed the line of being hip hop
Speaker 4: and not being hip hop.
Speaker 2: Well, he is the border.
Speaker 1: He's hip hop, but he's the borders, the border, like
Speaker 1: he's San Diego.
Speaker 3: Once you go past him, it's Mexico, Mexico.
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck how much Mexican people act
Speaker 1: like they're from San Diego. They from Mexico people, They
Speaker 1: not from San Diego. Kanye West is san Diego. Once
Speaker 1: you cross over there, you in another country.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's the bridge, the bridge, he's.
Speaker 1: The bridge right over a little Some of him is
Speaker 1: in Mexico.
Speaker 2: Some of Kanye is like.
Speaker 3: Way over there stronger, No, no.
Speaker 1: Them fire records. I'm not talking about the Nigga records records. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna play with the record. I think they
Speaker 1: overrated this hip hop records. But there there hip hop records.
Speaker 3: Those are not non hip hop records. No.
Speaker 2: I mean, actually like that is the last great himself.
Speaker 1: Actually like that as the last great productions in hip
Speaker 1: hop that was that was that, Yeah, But to even
Speaker 1: flip that punk and bring that into hip hop and
Speaker 1: bring people like Daft Punk into the party is fire. Like,
Speaker 1: I'm not playing with you, bro, Don't don't get my
Speaker 1: critique confused with I'm not playing with that that niggas
Speaker 1: stored Neo in the Matrix. He's the one, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He ain't to be fun, he ain't
Speaker 1: to be played with like that.
Speaker 2: Nigga is.
Speaker 1: Again, my critigue is fine, and I don't care if
Speaker 1: cut and like it. My critigue is fair. But don't
Speaker 1: don't get it fucked up. He's the last great to
Speaker 1: me that really brought other people into hip hop, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But that's also why he be
Speaker 1: doing all this crazy shit now that Nigga crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Kanye is not a musician. Shout out to Matrix to
Speaker 1: code it. That's what see. Hip hop is not about
Speaker 1: being a musician. He's not really a music that. Nigga
Speaker 1: can't play the fucking piano. He barely could play the piano.
Speaker 1: He's not no musician that Nigga is. He's a culturist.
Speaker 1: He understands culture way better than most people like that
Speaker 1: dude studies this shit, like for real, he knew to
Speaker 1: use that Shakakhan sample.
Speaker 2: He know what to use.
Speaker 1: He know how to make that shit work. He is
Speaker 1: a monster. That nigga is a real scientist from Chicago.
Speaker 1: He not to be played with.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That dude ain't to fucking be played with. He's like
Speaker 1: he's old.
Speaker 4: He's a visionary, you know what I'm sayings, he brings
Speaker 4: his visions that had life.
Speaker 2: He a monster.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying. He is the border of hip hop.
Speaker 1: And then he'll do a lot of uni hip hop shit.
Speaker 1: That is true, shout out to EP. He did study
Speaker 1: is that is true. He studied the culture. But he
Speaker 1: is a part of it, even if it's loose. But again,
Speaker 1: it's like, that's what I'm saying. He is the tippy
Speaker 1: top and ever since he happened, slowly they've been. They
Speaker 1: brought a Jewish guy in that uses the N word,
Speaker 1: that never used the N word in his regular life,
Speaker 1: that never uses the N word in his regular life.
Speaker 2: He don't even hunt.
Speaker 1: He didn't hang with niggas to call somebody a nigga,
Speaker 1: that thing about Drake. He didn't hang with niggas to
Speaker 1: cast my niggas. So when he get on the record,
Speaker 1: he start using the N word. It just looked weird,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That's I get I get it.
Speaker 1: I remember telling Doctum. I'm like it just he says it,
Speaker 1: it's weird, like you know what I mean. So it's like, yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Remember when my man first sorry about Drake. He was
Speaker 4: around way and all that shit. He said, Joe the
Speaker 4: kid getting the boof and just and it's a whole
Speaker 4: other person.
Speaker 1: When they introduced him, they was like, yeah, we got
Speaker 1: this kid from Nickelodeon. So shout out to everybody still
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Speaker 1: So when they first told us that they were signing him,
Speaker 1: they was like, we're signing this pop kid from Nickelodeon,
Speaker 1: Like he's a pop artist. And he walks in and
Speaker 1: this dude is light as the sky. He's light as
Speaker 1: the sky. And I'm like, damn. And he's talking and
Speaker 1: I'm like, Eh, how is this gonna work? And they
Speaker 1: started playing that fucking music and I was like, whoa shit,
Speaker 1: This mother fucking animal. Jesus crisis. Motherfucker is an animal,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. As soon as you hear
Speaker 1: Drake's music, You're like, this motherfucker is an animal. You
Speaker 1: could hear it. You're like, oh shit, Like I just
Speaker 1: knew instantly at that time.
Speaker 2: He was like.
Speaker 1: He was good, bro, we could have we could a
Speaker 1: coatigue about his topics. You know what I mean, did
Speaker 1: cry about girls a little much for hip hop's liking,
Speaker 1: you know, raps liking.
Speaker 3: Whatever he happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was amazing, bro, he was fucking amazing. He
Speaker 1: was fucking amazing. So I noticed when he he just
Speaker 1: talked straight up and down like he sound like an attorney,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like a real attorney. Cut
Speaker 1: Like he talked straight up and down, and that threw
Speaker 1: me off because I was like, damn, I would hear
Speaker 1: him talk. He never used the N word. I'm like, huh,
Speaker 1: but I didn't trip. I'm like, whatever, cut this nigga
Speaker 1: music is dope. So you know, I watched him blow
Speaker 1: up up close, Like I saw that nigga blew up
Speaker 1: and he was dope.
Speaker 2: So it made since I was like, man, that nigga sharp,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: What I mean, shout out to forty all the dudes
Speaker 1: behind the music, because that he was amazing.
Speaker 2: I was like, Damn, this nigga tough, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. But I knew it was different.
Speaker 1: So as he slowly started to integrate himself into street
Speaker 1: urban culture, talking like us.
Speaker 2: That's when I was like him it was nigga. And
Speaker 2: then it was like him. It's different.
Speaker 1: So you know, I didn't really chip off of it
Speaker 1: till I took time to learn what hip hop is.
Speaker 2: Shout out to two K Grind. Oh nah, you don't
Speaker 2: got to defend this.
Speaker 1: It's no, I'm not a attacking What up, niece, I
Speaker 1: see you saying uncle skin tone issues in.
Speaker 3: The black community.
Speaker 1: That's intellectually lazy. Two K, don't be too just because
Speaker 1: I mentioned I'm not saying he was bright like his
Speaker 1: skin tone. I mean the way he walked in the studio,
Speaker 1: he didn't have the ominous feel of somebody that came
Speaker 1: from the corner, not light his skin.
Speaker 2: That's just lazy.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 3: Go back to two K.
Speaker 1: Shout after two K Grind or nine Canada not Compton,
Speaker 1: but there is places in Toronto that very much are
Speaker 1: like Compton.
Speaker 2: They will murder you out that motherfucker.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So again, it's one of those things to where it's
Speaker 1: just different. But I watched it and that was the thing.
Speaker 1: So I think I think Kanye is the border. Patrol
Speaker 1: is the border.
Speaker 2: I think that's as far as he can go.
Speaker 3: So so with then he said.
Speaker 2: Talk let me no.
Speaker 4: So I think I think at times, though I hate
Speaker 4: I hate that right there. When people think that when
Speaker 4: we say he not hip hop has something to do
Speaker 4: with him being from Canada or his skin, I'm saying
Speaker 4: him being a by racial, by racial kid. No, that
Speaker 4: that has nothing to do with it not hip hop.
Speaker 4: I'll tell him, but that ship all the time. I say, Yo,
Speaker 4: the reason why he not hip hop is because you
Speaker 4: could just you could just tell, you can tell that
Speaker 4: he don't come from the cloth of what what what
Speaker 4: it is to come from hip hop?
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You know, he wasn't he learned hip hop, He wasn't
Speaker 4: raised hip hop, you know what I'm saying. And I
Speaker 4: think people get lazy when they start thinking that we
Speaker 4: were saying that because because of his background, or or
Speaker 4: well it is Christmas background, or because of his it's
Speaker 4: rat you know what I'm saying, it's biracial being from Canada,
Speaker 4: or so on and so forth. And I'm saying, there's
Speaker 4: many people that's bi racial, as many people as white
Speaker 4: as hip hop. There's many people that's that's from Canada
Speaker 4: that's hip hop. You know what I'm saying. You could
Speaker 4: just tell that it ain't it ain't authentic with him
Speaker 4: like that though, but he make great music. Though not
Speaker 4: gonna never say that stuff make great music.
Speaker 1: That motherfucker is amazing, man, that motherfucker made shout a
Speaker 1: fellow sat Shout out to two gray or nine minute
Speaker 1: sage up in this motherfucker shut up in this motherfucker
Speaker 1: forty three on November thirty. Yeah, that part fucking go. No, No,
Speaker 1: it's just lazy. It's just intellectually lazy and disingenuous. It
Speaker 1: don't got nothing to do with race. This is more
Speaker 1: of a cultural conversation ethnicity that matters, right, Like like
Speaker 1: if you don't have a street urban cultural ethnicity, then
Speaker 1: if again, you don't have to be a thug. But
Speaker 1: ll Coolja is not a thug. But listen to the
Speaker 1: way he talks. He talks like everybody else talks. So's
Speaker 1: it's not.
Speaker 3: Back in the day that was kind of crazy.
Speaker 2: That's just lazy, bro, that's just lazy.
Speaker 1: So again now it's Kanye is the border, and I
Speaker 1: think that's fair. Shout out to Sean Akerman who makes
Speaker 1: a great point. And I keep saying this the root
Speaker 1: of coach, it's in the rap. The root of culture
Speaker 1: is not just skin. The root of culture is the
Speaker 1: land that way of life yard of find like. It's
Speaker 1: not like it's all kinds of people that live in
Speaker 1: that cultural realm uh oh. So after being Frank Easy
Speaker 1: is from Oakland, not Chicago, So I never heard that Frank.
Speaker 2: I'm not fit to get into that, Frank.
Speaker 3: Because I know more.
Speaker 2: Not do that.
Speaker 1: I purposely never went down that road with Yay. I'm
Speaker 1: not going down that road.
Speaker 3: So why did even represent the south side forever?
Speaker 1: I'm not going down that road. We're not gonna go
Speaker 1: down that road.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: Two k grind on nine. It's not coming off as
Speaker 1: black people can't even be racist.
Speaker 3: Man, that's a problem.
Speaker 1: What bro like? Of course I'm not racist? What are
Speaker 1: you thinking?
Speaker 2: Bro Like? What are you thinking? Of course? Is not racist?
Speaker 3: Just a hip hop style, honey.
Speaker 1: Yay, probably act like a nigga from Oaklawn because it
Speaker 1: do be different. Again, when you start really going into
Speaker 1: this shit, you'll be like, oh that makes sense.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: A nigga would have had one hundred jokes for a
Speaker 1: nigga that had Marilyn Monroe up on that What that
Speaker 1: nigga would i'ld have snatched that ship down off my homeboy,
Speaker 1: wal If you don't take this old punk ass shit
Speaker 1: out of here.
Speaker 3: Oh on he had marily War.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, he talked about how he looked up to
Speaker 1: Maryland Road. That's why he like Kim. He thought that
Speaker 1: was his own mariln Morom like, how you idolize a whore?
Speaker 3: Bro?
Speaker 1: The two K grind on nine, Yes, they can two
Speaker 1: K grind on nine. Black people cannot be racist, bro, Like, See,
Speaker 1: this is what makes me think you're not a brother.
Speaker 1: Black folks make racist jokes all day, Bro, That's not
Speaker 1: what being racist is. See, this is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: This is what makes me think. And then when you
Speaker 1: don't have your picture, it makes me think that you're
Speaker 1: a white man posing as a brother, because that's not
Speaker 1: what racism is. Racism is not about making a joke
Speaker 1: about cultures or ethnicity.
Speaker 2: That's not what we're talking about.
Speaker 3: He's a white man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta be bro, Like.
Speaker 3: Just put your picture off, Tom? What you do?
Speaker 4: Bro?
Speaker 1: What the fuck man?
Speaker 2: This nigga said a joke is racism.
Speaker 1: I'm like, nigga, racism is when you bro, what the
Speaker 1: fuck man?
Speaker 2: See, this is what I'll be saying. This is you
Speaker 2: ruin it for me right now?
Speaker 3: Looking over time and you.
Speaker 1: You just what, bro, Just keep it a being cause
Speaker 1: damn racist jokes. Niggas commit slavery, and you talk about
Speaker 1: somebody made a joke.
Speaker 5: It's not what racist. Fuck simple, I'm glad you at
Speaker 5: the lunch table. Shout out at the lunch table. But
Speaker 5: Jesus christ Man, give me a break, brou why do
Speaker 5: I have to peel back this much layers of racism.
Speaker 5: I'm not doing that on this podcast. I'm not going
Speaker 5: into what racism is. If you don't know what racism is,
Speaker 5: do not sit your ass at the fucking lunch table.
Speaker 5: Don't sit your ass down. REVERSI he definitely not black.
Speaker 5: Stop responding. So Yeah, anyway, I think yay is the
Speaker 5: top exactly. Shout out to Mike l Man. I'm glad
Speaker 5: you came to the lunch table. We all got that one.
Speaker 1: Cousin who grew up in the suburbs, and even though
Speaker 1: we picked on them, they still have ties in our culture.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 1: That's Kanye to me, right, Like he's that cousin that
Speaker 1: niggas would be joking with. But you know, you love
Speaker 1: him still. He still got the coating, you know, he
Speaker 1: still got the culture. But he just still different. That
Speaker 1: is the the top level, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like, if jay Z was walking around with a white
Speaker 1: lady tapped around her titties, man, we'd be so disappointed.
Speaker 2: I'll jump off a bridge.
Speaker 1: Jay Z got rid of Beyonce and got a white
Speaker 1: lady and she had tape around her titties, tape around
Speaker 1: her waist and her vagina and.
Speaker 2: Ship that was her outfit.
Speaker 1: I'll be like, that's fucking j that's hot.
Speaker 4: Jay None did it now, you know made it to
Speaker 4: mean Jay did that. I'll be so just to put
Speaker 4: tape around the titty, tape around the ass and all that.
Speaker 3: They gotta check.
Speaker 2: Put that what I'm saying, so mad and disappointed.
Speaker 1: If it was a white lady they had on, that's fire.
Speaker 3: That's fire. That's the next thing.
Speaker 1: The hours from the South Shote of Chicago, hell yeah,
Speaker 1: hell yeah, it'd be different if the hours from the
Speaker 1: South Shot Hell yeah. If he was from the ghetto
Speaker 1: in Toronto, it'll be different. I'll be like, yeah, Toronto niggas,
Speaker 1: Trust me, I met some Toronto niggas. Them niggas will
Speaker 1: bust your shit. They really be the culture they got
Speaker 1: they hit going. If that's all it is, it's all
Speaker 1: just geographic and then relations to street urban culture.
Speaker 2: That's all that really come down to.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, you don't have to geographically be in the
Speaker 1: area that street urban culture grows, but if you tied
Speaker 1: into it, if you go to school near it, if
Speaker 1: you you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Things like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we could just tell Okay, this nigga, the homie,
Speaker 1: don dumb want to advocate for satan. The logic year
Speaker 1: street niggas can't become smart, but the smart nigga could
Speaker 1: never become street.
Speaker 2: He can.
Speaker 1: You can throw his life away.
Speaker 2: I've seen it.
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of smart niggas become street and
Speaker 1: they find theyself in prison.
Speaker 2: Yeah you can do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was a line that as you said
Speaker 1: that was funny.
Speaker 3: Said.
Speaker 1: I wasn't gangst at first, but I am now, Like, no,
Speaker 1: my boy, paying for people to be hurt is not gangster.
Speaker 1: That's actually just business, and it could be bad business
Speaker 1: if your stupid ass get caught.
Speaker 2: Don't be doing nothing, stupid boy.
Speaker 1: I do not want to have to be feeling bad
Speaker 1: because your stupid ass locked up trying to play tough.
Speaker 1: This is a big responsibility to beat this shit. It's
Speaker 1: not normal. They have normal. Take a long time to
Speaker 1: understand you can go to prison for life and to
Speaker 1: be okay with it.
Speaker 2: You don't.
Speaker 1: You don't get to the heights that you got where
Speaker 1: you got, you know, hundreds of millions dollars and even
Speaker 1: made hundreds of millions of dollars. And you just start
Speaker 1: getting people hurt. They will put you in jail. Boy,
Speaker 1: your ass will kill yourself. You see what that rich man?
Speaker 1: What's the man that was touching the little girls Epstein?
Speaker 1: You see that nigga killed yourself. People talk about they
Speaker 1: kill him. No white then people that people can't deal
Speaker 1: with jail. Jail is different. You gotta have a ain't.
Speaker 6: Nobody white out, bro.
Speaker 2: That is not for everybody.
Speaker 3: They killed him. I don't get you.
Speaker 1: I ain't kill that nigga hung itself because he knew
Speaker 1: them people was gonna He knew he couldn't take a
Speaker 1: day in jail.
Speaker 3: They killed that man.
Speaker 1: Man think that man killed hisself because he couldn't do
Speaker 1: no day in jail.
Speaker 3: No, they killed that man.
Speaker 4: You gotta hear about the people they had on the
Speaker 4: on the scene, working the scene. It's some crazy ship
Speaker 4: that went on within that ship. But I don't want
Speaker 4: to talk about that ship. Listen though, what you think
Speaker 4: about Drake partner up with the NFL? What what type
Speaker 4: of game of the NFL playing right now?
Speaker 1: It's your business. I guess if I'm in the NFL,
Speaker 1: I'm partnering with Drake too. Ship good business. We need
Speaker 1: to get over there in Toronto. We need to get
Speaker 1: over there in Canada.
Speaker 2: That's all. Plug Come on, Drizzy, come on over here.
Speaker 3: Boy.
Speaker 1: If he was Jewish and Somley, things would be different.
Speaker 1: It'd be a fucking pirate.
Speaker 3: I am your captain. I am your cap.
Speaker 1: See that. That's not a racist joke. That's a cultural joke.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah, that's how its people's look.
Speaker 1: Yeah, are you talking about cut that be talking crazy?
Speaker 3: He do it?
Speaker 2: He ship?
Speaker 3: That's how something. Top five look like that look.
Speaker 1: Like Cuz looked like he would take over a ship.
Speaker 3: The ship he like. He liked that.
Speaker 1: I'm like probably so he looked like he would take
Speaker 1: over a ship. Top five look like he'll make a
Speaker 1: nigga walk the plank. Cuz I ain't playing with Top five.
Speaker 1: Top father like he'll make a nigga walk the plank
Speaker 1: because I'm not.
Speaker 3: Playing in the face and snicking ship.
Speaker 1: Funk around, get on the cruise, cuse pop out and
Speaker 1: make you walk the planks.
Speaker 3: He was talking to.
Speaker 2: He was talking to little Jacob.
Speaker 3: Look, I see that sticking. Shut the fuck up.
Speaker 2: We already out of legal money.
Speaker 3: Million hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: That's over there, sticking niggas up for booty from top
Speaker 1: Booty is a nut because that diggy talking crazy like
Speaker 1: and were watching the video so we see who support him?
Speaker 2: I would they hit it.
Speaker 3: I was like, don't go.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell here the jay like, don't go no
Speaker 1: cruise cause you don't go no cruise.
Speaker 3: Don't pop up, cat, shut the funk up.
Speaker 1: God, don't go no cruise. Can will take over the ship, nigga.
Speaker 1: Look that looked like you take over his ship. He
Speaker 1: gotta fly on his face.
Speaker 2: Because it is a patch to cover his eye. Guess
Speaker 2: that's that's his market. Did you cut that?
Speaker 3: Could need a pass the comfort's eye? Your head too curly.
Speaker 3: They shut the funk up.
Speaker 1: That's funny. Is on Seventh Street. Probably he really crazy
Speaker 1: like he thought. I do know, but I genuinely believe
Speaker 1: he had tried to take over a ship.
Speaker 3: Go back home.
Speaker 2: Wunk the plate made.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was laughing a little. Jay I was like
Speaker 3: this nigga is bogging.
Speaker 6: Care the dollars about to whop like this, I got
Speaker 6: you trolling like like.
Speaker 3: They wanted to go that ship so fast. He was
Speaker 3: like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, call me, call me, call
Speaker 3: me yeah yeah yeah yeah I got you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that ship was hilaravious.
Speaker 1: Nigga just need a hook on his arm because he
Speaker 1: just cut hook on there. That should have worked.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was funny though. That was labo man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man to this culture ship though, man, like I
Speaker 4: agree with you within the Kanye drink though, within the
Speaker 4: him playing border patrol. You know what I'm saying. Making
Speaker 4: sure you know what I'm saying. He's the He's the
Speaker 4: the bridge like you said the bridge, Kanye bridge was
Speaker 4: I agree with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is as far as you can get.
Speaker 1: He's as far. That's the furthest you can get when
Speaker 1: it comes to culture like, that's it. Kanye is the
Speaker 1: furthest because he started acting hella crazy.
Speaker 4: He told he was gonna do it. That's one respect
Speaker 4: abou Kanye. He told niggas everything that was going to
Speaker 4: happen up until when you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Right, No, know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: He very much.
Speaker 1: He very much is. See were talking about how lightly sprinkled.
Speaker 1: He is a street urban culture. He is a nigga
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: That nigga is a nigga like and that's what I
Speaker 1: love that the duty. I'm glad it happened to the
Speaker 1: music industry because they was trying to get away from
Speaker 1: the street.
Speaker 2: They was like, you know, we don't want these motherfuckers.
Speaker 2: You know, they'll come in here one or two. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna come in here and jump on the desk and
Speaker 2: demand we give him some money.
Speaker 1: So they let Kanye in because they thought that they
Speaker 1: was getting That's the thing that made me laugh. They
Speaker 1: let Kanye in and do all of that. They just
Speaker 1: pushing him, Drake. These niggas are way worse than niggas
Speaker 1: from the streets. One nigga just went bad on y'all
Speaker 1: as a collective. Ice killed might make a song, but
Speaker 1: he ain't fit to do all that. Tayo coming there
Speaker 1: with his back, bust open the desk, run my money.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 1: You know, he gonna make some records with you and
Speaker 1: all that, Yo, sug he tripping. They gonna be okay,
Speaker 1: Jay Print, they gonna be okay. This motherfucker Yay goes
Speaker 1: on an all out rent to talk shit about y'all
Speaker 1: like he a nigga. Fuck y'all, fuck the like on
Speaker 1: major platforms, talk shit about your acts. He is a negro.
Speaker 1: He is a nigga for sure. Now he just all
Speaker 1: out just going crazy. They thought they was letting Drake in.
Speaker 1: They was like, oh, you know what, we could control him.
Speaker 1: He's a Jewish person, say the N word. Now his
Speaker 1: emotion got the best. He's swing all of y'all motherfuckers. Now,
Speaker 1: everybody asking a million questions about what's going on with
Speaker 1: your books, you know, the money all kind of shit.
Speaker 1: Every time you do this shit, y'all end up sucking up.
Speaker 1: I wish the record industry understand and just leave. Just
Speaker 1: fuck with hip hop kids. It's easy just to pay
Speaker 1: a nigga. You can't pay a Jewish man. That's a
Speaker 1: Jewish man. See this is where I know he' not
Speaker 1: hip hop. That's a Jewish man.
Speaker 3: He ain't.
Speaker 1: He went full motherfucking up, like straight out of Compton
Speaker 1: Jerry Heller. Look, I'm gonna soothe those motherfuckers. He forgot
Speaker 1: he was even in the battle because he was like,
Speaker 1: I don't care about that fucking battle. They know that
Speaker 1: I'm their guy and they're marketing this. But Drake, you
Speaker 1: were also this to him. I don't care.
Speaker 2: That's some Jewish.
Speaker 3: Shit to do.
Speaker 4: These motherfuckers.
Speaker 3: Out there.
Speaker 6: I'm doing the radio company, the Spotify.
Speaker 2: Now niggas is like trying to get in their books.
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's what y'all ask get, see, y'all, y'all
Speaker 1: thought he was fooling us because y'all got a Jewish
Speaker 1: person that said he'd say the N word.
Speaker 2: Y'all actually got a Jewish person.
Speaker 3: Came out.
Speaker 1: He was like, all you motherfuckers is going towards all
Speaker 1: you motherfuckers, and I don't care you motherfucker.
Speaker 3: When I'm with you, with you.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's what the industry gets. That's what y'all motherfuckers get.
Speaker 1: Y'all fucking y'all wanted a cut niggas so bad. Y'all
Speaker 1: wanted somebody that y'all thought y'all could control. The only
Speaker 1: people y'all could control is poor people.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: That's what the industry don't get. If you get somebody
Speaker 1: who was making sixty thousand dollars a year at six
Speaker 1: years old. You're gonna probably struggle to control them. If
Speaker 1: you get a nigga his mother was a doctor that
Speaker 1: moved himTo the suburbs. You're going to struggle to control him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what he is a deal with a nigga
Speaker 1: from counting.
Speaker 2: It's easy. Just pay him, Just pay him.
Speaker 1: He ain't look he like, you know what I went
Speaker 1: through this Hell, I just want to be a take
Speaker 1: care of my family.
Speaker 2: Drake don't even care about the money.
Speaker 3: He like.
Speaker 1: People think he's sort about money. No, he's just being vindictive.
Speaker 1: It ain't about no fucking money. That nigga tripping. He like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, you guys are promoting this guy. You
Speaker 1: guys are only supposed to promote me. It was a privilege.
Speaker 4: I know the tricks you're doing right now. I did
Speaker 4: the same tricks. You can't do me like that. You
Speaker 4: can't do me like that. I did that. This is
Speaker 4: the game I run.
Speaker 3: This is what I do.
Speaker 2: It on me, And they was doing it on all
Speaker 2: the records, I would imagine.
Speaker 1: But he's like, no, this worked better, So fucking you
Speaker 1: should never put it out should.
Speaker 2: He said, you should have took that line out, like what.
Speaker 1: The super Bowl?
Speaker 3: At the super Bowl, you said, bigger's a super Bowl?
Speaker 3: What do you mean?
Speaker 1: You should have just paid the niggas man, You should
Speaker 1: have just kept it with the black folk.
Speaker 2: Get that's what you get. That's what you get. That's
Speaker 2: what you get.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: That is what You cannot embarrass a Jewish man, even
Speaker 1: if he did it on his own, you bet not
Speaker 1: facilitate or help the embarrass me even if he started it.
Speaker 1: A jewish man shout out to the cool ones, but
Speaker 1: a jewish man to start a fight.
Speaker 2: And Suo asked, when you win the fight.
Speaker 3: Yo, let me ask you this right? So why was it?
Speaker 4: Kind of because they was able to clip that fucking
Speaker 4: push the t ship fast, like hold on, pull that
Speaker 4: ship up there right now, out of there, right now, yo,
Speaker 4: j He was don't clear that ship? JA, don't clear that,
Speaker 4: j SAMPLE, don't clear that? Can we not put on
Speaker 4: little shimming platforms? You know what I'm saying? They cleared
Speaker 4: They did it like that when they knew it was
Speaker 4: coming with the Kendricks shit, they knew they couldn't do it.
Speaker 3: They couldn't do it.
Speaker 2: And he was like, wait a minute. You mean to
Speaker 2: tell me that this little nigger from copy.
Speaker 3: You know what it was though too?
Speaker 4: The song, the song came out under Sony. It wasn't
Speaker 4: U m G. It was under the future ship. That's
Speaker 4: how the ship started off like that. I just now, Oh,
Speaker 4: you're right.
Speaker 2: And he kicked it off first.
Speaker 3: With un G with Sony. You with Sony first.
Speaker 2: Also first this record that was on UMG is his record.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: Push up?
Speaker 3: Yeah, push up?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, because yeah, yeah, Oh that's how that was
Speaker 4: able to happen.
Speaker 3: Be because Sony pushed the ship. I just put it together.
Speaker 3: I just wanted together. Now you let that happen. I
Speaker 3: would have never let that ship happen. Huh Yo. The
Speaker 3: niggas a slick. I just caught that.
Speaker 2: Just bars be bars.
Speaker 3: I just caught that. Just snap. You don't you gonna
Speaker 3: never let that ship fly?
Speaker 2: Be?
Speaker 3: What what? I'm big three? Just who's he's talking about?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: Pull that record, Sony said, push that record be.
Speaker 2: It was like fugging push up you like, well we
Speaker 2: could get some money.
Speaker 6: We gotta you started, you started, you started, and get
Speaker 6: it going.
Speaker 3: Let's get it going.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this Todio season desists on it.
Speaker 1: Like that record. I'm thinking about it. He couldn't pull
Speaker 1: it like he did to push your teeth.
Speaker 3: Crying Bro, that's oh no, no.
Speaker 1: Red Rose pedal, that's how you know it's not bots.
Speaker 1: That's just a joke.
Speaker 6: That song was the biggest There ain't no box helped
Speaker 6: that ship. I mean it could be a part of
Speaker 6: a program, but that ain't help that ship was.
Speaker 2: Like it was good.
Speaker 6: It was a really great record, like you're everywhere, but
Speaker 6: somebody gonna come with one.
Speaker 2: That's a great point.
Speaker 1: The first record at UMG was him talking ship about Kendrick.
Speaker 1: It's pushing you want to do this? Okay, Okay, you're
Speaker 1: gonna start it. Okay, Well he's gonna respond and he
Speaker 1: comes back with the number one record, which is Euphoria.
Speaker 1: Those number two Euphoria win number two.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. They was like, you got something here, cas,
Speaker 3: we got.
Speaker 2: Something tell us you know the records Fellers.
Speaker 3: Let's go, we got something that's crazy. Just now. Oh
Speaker 3: that's the bar Bro.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, Sony put that. You don't able to never
Speaker 4: put that fucking record out. You're going that fucking cold,
Speaker 4: You're going that drake. You know what I'm saying. No, no, no.
Speaker 3: Pull that record, get that record out of here.
Speaker 1: Yeah they could have, they could have mediated it, but
Speaker 1: as Sony you can't mediate it. And then on on
Speaker 1: the UMG side you kick it off with push ups.
Speaker 1: Now they have to let the record through and it's
Speaker 1: just good business.
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm, Wow, that's crazy. I just got I just yeah.
Speaker 4: When you go to the side, you smoke a little
Speaker 4: bit of viola, you know what I'm saying, you stop putting.
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Speaker 1: You get fucked with that viola.
Speaker 4: Get right, man, you start pulling pieces of the puzzle together, Beach,
Speaker 4: the pieces don't put together right there.
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