1 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: How does a five year old boy go missing from 2 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: in the middle of a field in Fruitland, Idaho? First 3 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: of all, what is a five year old boy doing 4 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: alone out in the middle of a field, but then 5 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 1: go missing? Crime stories with Nancy Grace. First of all, 6 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: take a listen to this. Pruveland police start searching for 7 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: a missing and endangered five year old. The boy, Michael Vaughan, 8 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: was last seen in the area of Southwest ninth in 9 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: Arizona in Pruveland late Tuesday. He was wearing a light 10 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: blue Minecraft shirt and dark blue boxer briefs with sandals. 11 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: Anyone with information should call nine one one, the paid 12 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: County Sheriff's office or Fruitland Police. So far, officers have 13 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: scoured through three thousand acres of farmland, drained irrigation ditches, starts, 14 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: through garbage cans, and a septic tank. I've got a 15 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: lot of questions. Let's introduce an all star panel to 16 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: break it down and put it back together again. First 17 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: of all, joining me twenty seven years metro major case 18 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: including swat now Lawyer James Shellnut at Shelnut Law Firm 19 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: dot com, Doctor Angela Arnold, renowned psychiatrists joining us out 20 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: of the Atlanta jurisdiction. Karen L. Smith, forensic expert, lecturer 21 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: University Florida and host of a hit series, Shattered Souls podcast. 22 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: Eric Grossarth now joining us from the area with the 23 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: East Idaho News dot Com and you can find him 24 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: on Instagram, Twitter at Eric Grosarth. Eric, I don't understand 25 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: how this little five year old boy just goes missing, 26 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: who was supposed to be watching him. You know something 27 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: that investigatives haven't necessarily told us yet. We do know 28 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: that he was in his neighborhood. It is a neighborhood 29 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: in a small, small community. But those streets end up 30 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: right there on farmfield, so you got acres and acres 31 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: of farm fields, and then the interstate right from there, 32 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: and then the snake rivers. So okay, wait wait wait 33 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: wait wait wait wait wait, that was a lot of information. 34 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: Eric Grosar. Eric Grosar joining me from East Idaho News 35 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: dot Com. Let me take that one line at a time, 36 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: because I'm hearing open Field. Then I heard you say 37 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: all the streets converge at this location. A very small community, 38 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: but you're leaving me to believe it is a residential 39 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: community like a suburban community, and near an interstate and 40 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: near the Snake River. All of that means potential locations 41 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: for this five year old little boy we're talking about 42 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: Michael Vaughan. What happened, Derek, Let's just start at the beginning. Yeah, 43 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: so Michael was last seeing around his house around six 44 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: thirty PM that day and at some point his family 45 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: or Eric, do you have children? Eric? Just curious? I do, okay, 46 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: So then you know, six thirty for children this young, 47 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: it's getting about supper time if they haven't already. You know, 48 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: they like to eat it four thirty and five o'clock 49 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: in the afternoon. So at this point I would assume 50 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: the parents are home from work. I'm just speculating here. 51 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: I don't know this. You got to help me. And 52 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: the child is there at six thirty than what in 53 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: the hey is he doing out in a field after that? 54 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: And you know, that's the million dollar question there associated 55 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: with this key. Somebody just said that they saw him 56 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: walking along that street and in the close that minecraft. 57 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: He showed what they saw and he vanished. A lot 58 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: of these details hadn't been where we get just because 59 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: there is a lot of unknowns, but he did at 60 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: some point walk wander away from the house, and we 61 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: all know with kids how easy it is. They can 62 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: walk long distance very quickly. No, actually I don't. I don't. 63 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: I know that other people say that. But I can 64 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: tell you this. If the twins at age five or 65 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: at home at six thirty, I don't know how they 66 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: would have gotten out of the house and wander away 67 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: without anybody noticing anything. I will tell you this, Eric 68 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: gross Arth. On our back door, we had, of course 69 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: the door handle, would you could lock it, and then 70 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:49,559 Speaker 1: we put a but yes, yeah, thank you Jackie's side 71 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: bark slide bark. Well listen this, Eric, there were some 72 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: steps going upstairs right beside that back door. I mean, 73 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,799 Speaker 1: like stand on the step and open the door, the doorknob. 74 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: It's right there. Together John, David Lynch and Lucy Lynch, 75 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: by the time they were eighteen month two years old 76 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: could go up two steps and reach up and change 77 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: a site slide bar. So we had to put something 78 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: even higher up so they couldn't reach it. That like 79 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: little monkeys. So I'm not saying he can't get out 80 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: because they could do that at two years old. And 81 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: this Michael is five. But how does he how has 82 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: he gone that long and nobody noticed Eric, and why 83 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: aren't police telling us what happened? You know, this is 84 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: one of those that they're still trying to piece together 85 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: everything that happened. There's a lot of information, including the search. 86 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: There is several investigators that have been called in to 87 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: talk to people. There's been the witness after with this, 88 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: hundreds of them that have been coming in with different tips, 89 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: and they need to come in and talk with all 90 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: of these people searching these homes talk to different investigators, 91 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: So there's a lot. They have said that Michael's parents 92 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: have been cooperative with investigators, but they still have a 93 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: lot to talk about and there's still a lot of 94 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: unknowns in a case like this, especially where you still 95 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: have this person missing. Michael's one of the few people 96 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: that would probably know exactly what happened at that moment 97 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: when he walked away, that would tell them what happened 98 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: with me. Yeah, I mean, I know the child is 99 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: what happens if the child is still alive. You were 100 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: earlier hearing our friends at Idaho Knees six. Now take 101 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: a listen to our cut too. This is Kristen Skariva 102 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: Idaho Knees. The search for a missing treasure Valley Boy 103 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: escalates as it goes into a second day. Police officers 104 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: in Fruitland need the community's help in locating that little boy. 105 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: Five year old Michael Joseph Vaughan is considered endangered and 106 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: was last seen at his home near south West ninth 107 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 1: and Arizona in Fruitland. That was around six thirty eight 108 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: Tuesday evening, and search efforts have it begin immediately to 109 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: find whole teams walking through nearby neighborhood, searching by air 110 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: with rons and even a helicopter. The Idaho Mountain Search 111 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: and Rescue Team brought their search dog to help with 112 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: the efforts. Vaughn is about three and a half feet tall, 113 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: his blonde hair and blue eyes. He also goes by 114 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: the nickname monkey. I'm just thinking about that. Just three 115 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: and a half feet tall. He's a little bitty thing, 116 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: goes by the nickname monkey. I'm looking at him right now, 117 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: big beautiful smile. He's very very tiny. Allegedly goes missing 118 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: from a field near his home. Now. I'm looking at 119 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: the field right now, and I noticed that people going 120 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: through the field are with the FBI. Now very curious 121 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: as to why. The Idaho State police has called in 122 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: the FBI to help find Michael. But something about this 123 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: story is not hanging together for me. Now, tell me 124 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: about the area. That's so one of my problems here 125 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: at Grossarts joining me from East Idaho News dot Com. 126 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: You're saying it is a residential community. I'm looking at 127 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: the field that I think this is the one where 128 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: he was last same, I don't see anything in the distance. 129 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: I see what I think to be a structure where 130 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: a few outhouses around it. But it looks like a 131 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: farming structure. So it is a residential neighborhood or what. Yeah, 132 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: So this is kind of common out here in Idaho. 133 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: You'll have these small communities with maybe five six thousand 134 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: people and there'll be a residential community and then it's 135 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: surrounded by farm fields. I'm in a larger town by 136 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: Paris house is here, but their backyard is farmfield and 137 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: it goes on for miles and miles. So there are 138 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: these residential communities in these farm fields. But something else 139 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: to point out that this is only about now or 140 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: from Idaho's largest city of Bois. You hop on Interstate 141 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: eighty four there in between the Idaho and Oregon, so 142 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: you're nearer, larger communities, but there's still lots of these 143 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 1: farm fields. And when we talk farm fields, that's another 144 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: theme that investigators have been searching as canals. They've got 145 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: to bring the water into these fields. So there are 146 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: lots of canals and different waterways throughout all of this 147 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: is a maze of little waterways and fields in these 148 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: small communities in Idaho. So yes, there is that residential aspect, 149 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: but it's right next to the western farming communities. Okay, 150 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 1: now I'm starting to get an idea of what you're 151 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: talking about. It's very similar where I grew up, as 152 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: some people will say, out in the middle of nowhere 153 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: in Middle Georgia. There were maybe maybe four to ten 154 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: houses around our home. But then if you go behind 155 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: the homes, there would be woods, verily, very heavily wooded, 156 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: and then it gives a way to farmland as far 157 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: as the eye could see. So, yes, there are homes 158 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: around his home, Michael's home, but beyond that it's all farmland. 159 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 1: Crime stories. With Nancy Grace, we are talking about the 160 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: disappearance of a five year old little boy, his name 161 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: Michael Vaughan. Take a listen now to our friend at 162 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: the Fruitland Police Department. This is Chief J. D. Huff. 163 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 1: Listen today the Police Department, in conjunction with the State Police, 164 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: multiple Treasure Valley law enforcement agencies, and the Federal Bureau 165 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: of Investigation, we continue to search for missing and endangered 166 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: five year old Michael Joseph Vaughan MJ to his family 167 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: and friends. Michael was last seen near his residence on 168 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: Southwest nine Street in Fruitland at approximately six thirty pm 169 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: on July twenty seventh, twenty twenty one. Operations to date 170 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: include the methodical search of the area near Michael's residence, 171 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: which included two irrigation runoff ditches which were drained by 172 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: the Fruitland Public Works Department in an extensive search and 173 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: rescue effort including the use of k nines, aeriel and 174 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: marine and land support. Idaho Fish and Game officers are 175 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: continuing to search the river by boat for four to 176 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: five miles down river and back up and then the 177 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: slews of the Snake River as well. Joining me an 178 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 1: all star panel. Let's go straight out to James shelnot 179 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: twenty seven years metro major case including swat now lawyer 180 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: at Shelnut Law from dot Com. Jameson why typically would 181 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: the FBI be called on a case like this. Well, 182 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: so the FBI has a policy, Nancy. This says that 183 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: if a child is of tender years, then the FBI 184 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: will get involved in the investigation of a missing child. 185 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: And tender years to the FBI means a child's under 186 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: twelve years old. So if a child is under twelve, 187 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: all that has to be done is a call place 188 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: to the local FBI office and they will send FBI 189 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: just to come out there. Typically, the FBI does not 190 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: get involved in a bowl cases unless there's some indication 191 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: that there's some type of interstate crime going on. But 192 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: with a child that young, the FBI's policy is to 193 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: get involved in provide assistance anytime it's requested. Let me 194 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: understand something else. Eric Grossar's joining us from East idahunes 195 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: dot com. Michael's last thing wearing a light blue Minecraft shirt, 196 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: dark blue boxer briefs, and size eleven blue flip flops. 197 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 1: Child eleven. I mean he had on his underwear. That's 198 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: what they're shaying, is that he had his T shirts 199 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 1: and then his box or brief underwears and then his shoes. 200 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: So he was running around that day in his underwear. 201 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: And it's my understanding that he has two siblings, and 202 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: I'm curious about their ages. For those of you just 203 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: joining us, the tip line is two zero eight six 204 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: four two six zero zero six. That's the Fruitland Police. 205 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: Repeat to zero eight six four two six zero zero six. 206 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: Joining me, forensic expert Karen L. Smith. So he's home 207 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: at six thirty. How did he get out? And who 208 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: saw him in the field? Good question? You know, he's fine, 209 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,839 Speaker 1: he's little. You said that your kids were able to 210 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 1: unslide the lock when they were two, So I don't 211 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: know about if he was out there and nobody knew. 212 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: The reporter mentioned somebody's being him on the streets. Do 213 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: we have any and more information about that? Who was 214 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: the last person to see this child? Which direction was 215 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: he going? You know? Was he running? Was he playing? 216 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: Was he walking? Was he lost? Did he lose track? 217 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 1: Of which house was his? These are all questions that 218 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: should have been asked and answered already, Nancy. The frantic 219 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: search goes home for a five year old little boy 220 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: who goes missing, seemingly right under his parents. Knows who 221 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: is this little missing boy? Michael Vaughan, again, if you 222 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: could describe for me, Eric Grossarth, what he was wearing. Yeah, 223 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: so Michael was last seen wearing this blue Minecraft T shirt. 224 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: It's been lastered all over the missing person's report there. 225 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: He also was wearing I guess the black boxer briefs 226 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: with a lion green stitching and then size Levy flip flops. 227 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: So he was in a T shirt in his boxer 228 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: briefs and flip flops, last seen on his street running 229 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: around the neighborhood. And that neighborhood again is surrounded by 230 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: fields and canals and all of that farm community that 231 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: we talked about a minute ago, you know. Part of 232 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: it to doctor Angela Arnold, I'm renowned psychiatrists joining us 233 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: out of the Atlanta jurisdiction is that much like where 234 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: I grew up, there's a very very low crime rate, 235 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: and people think they can let their children go play 236 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: outside without watching them because nothing has ever happened in 237 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: the neighborhood before. So under those circumstances, the parents probably 238 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: thought there was no problem letting him go outside. I'll 239 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: tell you the burning question that I'm having inside, is 240 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: this a typical behavior? Like do they do the kids 241 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: typically run around outside at night after dinner, and as 242 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: you also pointed out, Nancy, where were his siblings? Like 243 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: if everybody runs around outside, it that's one thing, isn't it? 244 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: But why was this the only kid? And are his 245 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: siblings older or younger than him? But why was he 246 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: the only one that was outside playing at this time 247 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: of night? Now I understand Eric Grace Art the parents. 248 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: I want to follow up on what doctor Angel Arnold 249 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: just said. The parents saw him in the home at 250 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: six thirty and you still can't tell me he saw 251 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: him out in the field. What I can tell you 252 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: is that the investigators are keeping that close to them 253 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: during this investigation. They've been talking to a lot of 254 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: the neighbors, going from home to home, looking through surveillance video. 255 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: But he was the last seen near his house at 256 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: six thirty pm on July twenty seven, so they were 257 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: searching shortly after that time that he disappeared. The first 258 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: alert for the neighborhood like a reverse NIME when one 259 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: call was around eight twenty pm, so a couple hours 260 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: later and investigators are searching through that neighborhood. So it 261 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: wasn't like he was missing for days when he was 262 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: reported missing, it was just moments after he was last 263 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: seen in that neighborhood that investigators were called out and 264 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: they began their extensive search. You know what, the search 265 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: has been extensive, but I'm still we've still got a 266 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: big gaping hole in the timeline because I don't know 267 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: who saw him out in that field. I know that 268 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: they missing in endangered child lord goes out at eight 269 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: twenty pm, But who saw him last at six thirty? 270 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: Was that in the home or was that out in 271 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: the field. How far away is the field from his home? Eric, 272 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: So what we do know all investigators have said again 273 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: is that a person. We don't know who that person is, 274 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: but they said that somebody saw him near his home 275 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: on this southwest ninth Street which dead ends into a 276 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: farm field at six thirty. So investigators haven't released to 277 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: us who last saw him, but somebody saw him on 278 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: the street, which again goes towards the field. Guys, take 279 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: a listen to more from the Fruitland Police Chief J. D. Huff. 280 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: We also want to emphasize the Michael's family continues to 281 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: be one percent cooperative with our investigation, and we're asking 282 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: you to be extremely respectful of their privacy during this 283 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: situation and we would appreciate that super difficult time, as 284 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: you would know. So Michael's last scene wearing a light 285 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: blue minecraft T shirt over here on my left, dark 286 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: blue blocks or briefs. Child size eleven sandal and he 287 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: stands three foot seven inches tall. He's fifty towns. He's 288 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 1: got blonde hair, blue eyes, and he answers to the 289 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: nickname Monkey. The Fruitland Police Department will continue to organize 290 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: search and rescue operations with resources provided by the Idaho 291 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: Mountain Search and Rescue Team, the Fruitland Fire Department, and 292 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children and Others 293 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Then you's also searched for 294 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: a five year old little boy, goes on. Police have 295 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: already looked through nearly two hundred garbage cans, drained canals 296 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 1: and irrigation ditches, and even pumped a septic tank in 297 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: the area. That's interesting to me, James shell Nut. Why 298 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: would they pick out that particular septic tank. You know, 299 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: there's some indication that the child may be in there. 300 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: There's some indication that it is a possible dumping site 301 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: for this child, and it's also possible indication that the 302 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 1: child could have fell in there. I think there's several 303 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: reasons that they could be doing that. I need to 304 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: explain you to explain because a lot of people listening 305 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 1: and watching right now, James shell Nutt, they don't know 306 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: how you just fall into a septic tank. So I'll 307 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: let you explain that. Well, I'll tell you this kids, 308 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: kids can It depends on the top of septic tank too. 309 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 1: Is this a top of septic tank that has an 310 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: access on top of it? How large is the access 311 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: or is this one of those that you would have 312 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: to move the lid? Okay, I think that's that's what 313 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: we need to also underground septic tanks, as Nancy, Oh, great, 314 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: chuff in. So Nancy, this septic tank that they focused 315 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: in on somebody head so there are what this makeshift 316 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 1: wooden lid that was about two feet by six feet white. 317 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: So that's an area that he could have easily fallen 318 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: in there. It was just a wooden lid. All he 319 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: would have to have done is pushed it up a 320 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: little bit and he could have fallen in that tank. 321 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: That sheds a lot of live because you know, the 322 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: normal septic tank is you know that we see nowadays 323 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: around most houses has got a small access hole in 324 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: case it needs pumping, and to the extent it doesn't 325 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: has a large concrete lid that a child couldn't have 326 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: moved in. That does explain a lot, and it tells 327 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: me that the police or at least put some credibility 328 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: into the fact that the child may have left on 329 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: his own age. I agree, because if they thought that 330 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: the family was involved or the child had been kidnapped, 331 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: they wouldn't be looking at a septic tank. I don't 332 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: think to explore whether he could have fallen in there 333 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,479 Speaker 1: by accident or while playing. To you, Eric gross Arth, 334 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: is a septic tank underground or do you have to 335 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 1: climb up on top of it? From what I understand, 336 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,959 Speaker 1: this is one of those that's set in the ground, 337 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: and of course they have those access points there that 338 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 1: they can pull off when they do need to promplement 339 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: maintenance provide maintments on the septic tanks. So from what 340 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: I understand, they could have been a he was playing 341 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 1: and happened to fall in, And that seems to be 342 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: a large section of their searches, these canals and these 343 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 1: other areas they were asking people to look. At one 344 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 1: point for areas where Michael could hidden in their house, 345 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: check their cars, check little crawl spaces, things like that. 346 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: So early on in the investigation, they've been looking at Hey, 347 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: this kid could have wandered off and been trapped somewhere 348 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: that he was just exploring. He was inquisitive, and that's 349 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: something that happened quite frequently with five year old kids. 350 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friends, say kat VB News 351 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: Channel seven. From the air and on the ground, crews 352 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: from multiple agencies went door to door talking to neighbors, 353 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: searching yards and nearby fields, all in hopes of finding 354 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: five year old and Michael Jokes who've gone. Neighbors say 355 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: they learned about the five year old's disappearance around seven 356 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: thirty on Tuesday night. They say Michael was a happy 357 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: kid who lived in this neighborhood with his parents and grandfather. 358 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: Cynthia Walker lives in the neighborhood and was walking her 359 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:56,719 Speaker 1: dog as the search was happening. Five years old, I 360 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: don't know that he would walk under too far without 361 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: one of us snim by. Now there are volunteers, many 362 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: many volunteers outten scanning the fields, and we just want 363 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: to have Michael back. We want him home safe. You know, 364 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: I'm curious about something you said, Eric Grossar, it's joining 365 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: us from East Idaho News dot Com about the interstate. 366 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 1: How close to his location where he's last scene is 367 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: the interstate? Oh? You know, I'd say the closest distances 368 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: thread to five farm fields away you run into the 369 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 1: interstate there. Can you see this location from the interstate? 370 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of hard to see exactly, like 371 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: the two areas right there. It's very flat, Eric, it's 372 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: very flat land. I'm looking right at it. That field 373 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 1: as flat as a pancake. And the reason I'm asking, 374 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 1: I don't know who on the panel remembers Shasta and 375 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: Dylan Grownee. They were playing in an above ground pool 376 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: in Cord Delane And if you fly over that and 377 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: look down, you see nothing but green, nothing but farmland 378 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: and green forest. That's it. And this freak was driving 379 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: along the interstate, looks over and at a distance sees 380 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: Shasta the little girl grownee at that above ground pool. 381 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 1: Comes off the interstate and late in wait he goes in. 382 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: He massacres the whole family to get Dylan, the little 383 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: brother at Shasta grownee and keeps them for weeks and 384 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: weeks and weeks. I think I covered it nearly every night, 385 00:24:55,720 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: trying to find them, torturing them, molesting them. He would 386 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: molest the little boy over and over and over, and 387 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: he would strangle the little boy until he would pass 388 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 1: out and then come back and wake back up, over 389 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: and over and over. He ended up killing the little boy. Ultimately, 390 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: Shasta was with her kidnapper and they were walking around 391 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: inside like a seven to eleven, like a quick trip. 392 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: And the woman there, the clerk, had seen Shasta on 393 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 1: one of the programs and called in a tip and 394 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: saved her life. That was in the middle of nowhere, 395 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 1: no crime, zero crime rate. But this guy driving along 396 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: the interstate happened to look over and in the distant 397 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: seize the little girl, and then the whole thing unfolded. 398 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 1: That's my curiosity. You said this is one hour from Boys, 399 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 1: is that correct? Era, Yeah, so this is about an 400 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 1: hour and twenty minutes from Boise, And talk about could 401 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: somebody have seen Michael wandering away from that house on 402 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: that field. So Michael's house stiffs on the field. But 403 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: there's a little bit of an embankment down towards the 404 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: end of that neighborhood where the road's up there, So 405 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 1: it's not the clearest shot from the interstate to Michael's 406 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: street there. But again it's always that possibility. Did he 407 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: wander a good distance through these several farm fields to 408 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: the interstate. I don't know. But again, you're about an 409 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: hour from Boise, which is a large populated area. There 410 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: is a crime over there in Boise, not more than Fruitland, 411 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 1: but again it's it's hard to see it from that interstate. 412 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: Do we know if there were crops coming up in 413 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 1: that field at the time, and of so, what top 414 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 1: of crops they are? I mean, this is prim planning 415 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: cop just saying, shall not the field I'm looking at 416 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: where everybody's searching. It's ankle. The growth is at your 417 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: ankle ankle height. Crime stories with Nancy Grace, guys are 418 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: talking about an unsolved case. The little boy is missing 419 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: right now tipline two zero eight six four two six 420 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: zero zero six. Its name Michael Vaughan, mother Brandy and 421 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: father Tyler desperate to get their quote monkey back, that's 422 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 1: his nickname. I want you to take a listen to 423 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: our cut sixteen. This is Kim Feels at Katie VB 424 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 1: news Channel seven. It has been almost a week since 425 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 1: a five year old boy disappeared in Fruitland, and today 426 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: the Fruitland Police Department is asking residents to check security 427 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: footage and search their property as they and multiple other 428 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: state and federal agency search for Michael Vaughan. Michael, who 429 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: also goes by the nickname Monkey, was last seen six 430 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: days ago on Tuesday evening in Fruitland. He has three 431 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: feet seven inches weighs about fifty pounds. He was last 432 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: seen wearing a blue shirt and boxer briefs. Fruitland Police 433 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: say that they have combed through the entire city and 434 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: even surrounding areas also enlisted the public's help to do so, 435 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: and now they're asking residents to search their property and 436 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: only their property, as other agencies combed through the area. 437 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: They also say to again review any security footage if 438 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: you have it, maybe even your doorbell cameras. Check that 439 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: because you never know. And they're asking anybody to report 440 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: credible information to the Payatt County Sheriff's Office. Speaking of 441 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: ringing doorbell cameras and other types of home security videos, 442 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: I understand Eric about sixty videos from residents and businesses 443 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: have been collected and officers are coming through the footage 444 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: as we speak right now. Yeah, they're going through all 445 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: of this footage they're piecing together. When you haveighborhoods with 446 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: rene video camera one after another, you can follow a 447 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,479 Speaker 1: person along until those cameras stops. So again they're piecing 448 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: all of those together, trying to see who was in 449 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: the area at the time, where was Michael going. All 450 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: of that can be put together from these cameras that 451 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: could have picked up something. But again they are not 452 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: releasing everything that they found, of course, just hoping that 453 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: they won't hurt well, you know what, doctor Angela Arnold 454 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: psychiatrists joining us, This is a real call to arms 455 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: for citizens, for people, because let me just remind you, 456 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: for instance, just out of the blue, Molly Tippot's case 457 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: was really cracked by home surmillance video that saw Molly 458 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: jogging by this home was not connected to her in anyway, 459 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: and then you see the perp going by in his car, reversing, 460 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: going back and forth, and due to the distinct markings 461 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: are the perps vehicle, they end up finding the vehicle 462 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: and thereby finding the p and thereby finding Molly Tippets. 463 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: So this is a time. For everybody out there that 464 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: thinks they cannot make a difference, you can make a difference. 465 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: You can make a difference, Jumpy and Angie with anything 466 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: that they see, Nancy. And you know what bothers me 467 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: a lot also is these criminals. If this was the 468 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: act of a criminal, know that everyone has some sort 469 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: of device now to record people that go by. So 470 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: how bold, how emboldened do you have to be to 471 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: take a child if you know or did somebody lure 472 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: the child away? But I hope, like you said, Nancy, 473 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: that people get on their ring doorbells and look at 474 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: that tape and like you said, turn it over see 475 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: if there's absolutely anything on there that can help, because 476 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: this little boy has been gone for a long time, 477 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: hadn't he I you know another thing, I'm curious. I 478 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: just do not believe it was I don't have any 479 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: fact to basis on right now, but I don't think 480 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: it was one of the parents that saw the little 481 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: boy out in the field, because if they had seen 482 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: the parents have been totally cooperative with police, are doing 483 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: whatever's required of them. I believe if they saw the 484 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: little boy out in the field, they would have told 485 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: them to come home. So I think someone was driving 486 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: by or walking by and saw him and didn't think 487 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: anything about it. How many times have you seen a 488 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: situation and the thought goes through your mind that's not right, 489 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: and you do nothing. You do nothing. Guys, we're getting 490 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: a lot of texts and emails about what is being 491 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: done to find Michael. I want you to take a 492 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: listen to our cut eighteen. This is our now friend, 493 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: Chief J D. Huff. Listen. You know five year olds 494 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: can get into almost anything. So we've looked through nearly 495 00:31:55,160 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: two hundred garbage cans, drained canals, and irrigation ditches, pumped 496 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: the septic tank in the area that had to make shift. 497 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: You buy six wooden plank lid. We've gathered sixty different 498 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: videos from residential and business security cameras and we're combing 499 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: through that data as we speak. To date, we've received 500 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty three tips. All have been assigned 501 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: to investigators for follow up, and many have already been cleared. 502 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: Others are being worked on as we speak. We've conservatively 503 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: estimated the number of man hours from law enforcement agencies 504 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: to be in the hour or to be in the 505 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: range of twenty five hundred man hours and that doesn't 506 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: include our EMS search and rescue partners or the hours 507 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: put in by the volunteers from our community. I got 508 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: to tell you, I've never seen a presence like this, 509 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: And on behalf of Michael's family and the citizens of 510 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: the city of Fruitland, I sincerely extend our thanks to 511 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: the chiefs and sheriffs who have came to our aid, 512 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: providing manpower and resources over the last week and certainly 513 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: in the weeks to come. That's not all. Take a 514 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: listen to our cut twenty and the last hours. This 515 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: is what the chief has to say. Drone flights will 516 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: continue along with riverbank searches by boat. This morning, the 517 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: search continued in the area below Southwest Date Street, where 518 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: some heavy foliage was removed and a specialized canine was deployed. 519 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: In the near future, we have a dive team scheduled 520 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: to search pond in the slews down in the area 521 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: of Southwest Date and our search effort and rescue efforts 522 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: will continue as long as we have those resources available 523 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: to continue. That you know what means a lot to me. 524 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: Let me go out to you, Karen Smith, as that 525 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: the parents are so cooperative of course, you first look 526 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: in the home, and that's to be expected. You look 527 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: at the parents and the siblings, as suspects, the grandfather, 528 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: anybody's in and out of that home, because statistically speaking, 529 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: that is where your part will lie. But I'm always reminiscent. 530 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: I always think of Mark Class, who's the poster parent 531 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: for this, When his daughter Polly went missing from a 532 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: sleepover at her own home, he tells the cops here, 533 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: take my DNA, my fingerprints, my hair. Wouldever search my place, 534 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: search my car, search my business, do whatever you have 535 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 1: to do. I don't care, so you can get past 536 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: me and look for her kidnapper. And they did. These parents, 537 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: from all I understand, are being completely cooperative. Yeah, and 538 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: that is so important. You know, when you have a 539 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: home where a child lives or in siblings, you go inside, 540 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: You look at the home. You kind of take in 541 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,720 Speaker 1: all of the information. Are their toys? Is it fairly clean? 542 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 1: You know? Is their food in the fridge? All of 543 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: the things that we look for. As far as making 544 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 1: sure it's not an abusive situation, it doesn't sound like 545 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: that at all. These people are helping. They are desperate, 546 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: and God bless them. I really hope they find Michael States. 547 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: But here's the thing, Nancy, they are expanding this search 548 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 1: out and further out and further out. You have Route 549 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: thirty to the east of their home. You have Interstate 550 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: eighty four to the west. You have the Snake River, 551 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: which is right there at I eighty four, and that 552 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: borders Oregon. So, you know, and I hate to say this, 553 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: but the first place my mind went when I heard 554 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: this little boy was missing under really strange circumstances like that, 555 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 1: was where are all the sexual predators and sexual offenders 556 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 1: in this area, because every single one of them needs 557 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: to be investigated within a thirty to forty mile radius 558 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,919 Speaker 1: of this home. Well, Karen Smith, you're right, You're right, 559 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: and there's nothing wrong with your mind or what you're thinking. 560 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: That is s op to look at known or register 561 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: sex offenders or people that have even had rests in 562 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 1: the area, and you nab them first and question them 563 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 1: and searched their homes. And I'm assuming that has been 564 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: and done. Guys, I want you to take a listen 565 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: to our cut twenty two from news Channel seven kat 566 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 1: v B. Well, bring Michael home. Those are the words 567 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: plastered on flyers, signed and social media posts around the 568 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 1: Treasure Valley. Five year old Michael Vaughan has been missing 569 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: for ten days. Search efforts around the city of Fruitland 570 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 1: and nearby have not slowed down, and people around the 571 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: area say they won't slow down until he know where 572 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: he is. This little boy now missing for days and days. 573 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 1: The tip line two zero eight six four two six 574 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 1: zero zero six. Take a look at Michael vaughan Nancy 575 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: Grace crime story signing off goodbye friend.