1 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: Hey, well, I welcome in. I'm Doug Gottlieb. This is 2 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: all fall up. We got a lot of good guests 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: lined up with the connects at the Final four. Maybe 4 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: next the Final four you just do like a booth 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: and just roll through like a hundred of these. But, um, 6 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: I think you'll enjoy today's pod because I want to 7 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: hit really on three things to think about. But when 8 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: I say three things, there's a lot of depths to it. 9 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: So let's start with the college basketball final four kind 10 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: of recap, And there's several different levels of recap because 11 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: you know, off the floor of the Final Four there's 12 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: not just the host city and all that all that stuff, 13 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: but also you know jobs, and in college basketball, final 14 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: four usually coincides with coaching jobs and with coaching moves. 15 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: We'll get to those, I think in in in short order, 16 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: but not at this pod. With college basketball, like, let's 17 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: take a case study of what we saw. You know, 18 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: I'm really fortunate to get to work for Westwood one 19 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: covering the NCAA tournament. And when you're doing all this 20 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: work and seeing every game, like all sixty eight games 21 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: I watched, and I was pretty thorough with how I 22 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: watched all of them too. Like when you're most people, 23 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: when you do studio work, and I've done studio work 24 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: going back to the ESPN days, you know you'll have 25 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 1: six games on it once and you try and take 26 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: some notes, mental notes, physical notes, You get some box scores, 27 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: you see some highlights. You try and I've always tried 28 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: to really be be not just an opinion giver and 29 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: an analyst, but also at times you've got to tell 30 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: the real story of what happened in that those games, 31 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: because there's nothing more infuriating, I think from a fans perspective. 32 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: Then when somebody who's supposed to be an expert says 33 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: they watched the game, but they're really just reading off stats, right, 34 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: So you try and end. So that's how I first try. 35 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: And it's not usually the job of an analyst to 36 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: tell the story, but you can tell the story within 37 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: your analysis, if that makes any sense to you, right, 38 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: you know, It's like I'll never forget. I was on 39 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: a set one time, and it was when Florida lost 40 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: in the NCAA Tournament to Louisville and the Elite eight, 41 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: and at halftime they came to us and they said, 42 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,839 Speaker 1: at the time, Florida was you know, pressing, and as 43 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: Billy Donovan was theirs, maybe I think Billy against against Potito, 44 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: and the question was about pressing. Why didn't they why 45 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: don't they press more? And by the time they came 46 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: around to me, there were several other people on the 47 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,399 Speaker 1: desks and they were being critical of Florida's game plan 48 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: because here they are all their offense they'd create off 49 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: their press, and they hadn't pressed in the first half. 50 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: And so, you know, because you look at the turnovers 51 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: and let's say Louisville at the time, I had like 52 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: three four turnovers. Well, the problem with it was that 53 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: Florida had only made four field goals and was like, 54 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say four of eleven something crazy from the 55 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: freeth to line where they had or maybe seven to 56 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: eleven from the free to line, but they had missed 57 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: the second free throw in all of those miss free throws, 58 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: never the first free throw. And so I was trying 59 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: to explain, you know, you're trying to explain is the 60 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: analysis of not just what happened, but why, you know, 61 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: they were saying, not as they were saying the why, 62 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: like why is Florida not winning? Well, they're not pressing, 63 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: and they forgot to point out the what which was, Oh, hey, 64 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: Florida only made four field goals and they've missed you know, 65 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: three second free throws or four second free throws, and 66 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: so it's you can't press. Yeah, only skip Prosters Xavier 67 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: teams were the only teams I can ever remember that 68 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: purposely pressed on a miss basket. Anyway, So working in 69 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: studio can be a really can be a lot, just 70 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: because you know you're trying to you have to manage 71 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: yourself in your own time. There's usually some decent food, 72 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: everybody's having a conversation. You're trying to tell people what's 73 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: coming up. And when you were for West with one, 74 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: you don't have those distractions, right, there's the food distraction, 75 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: but you know that comes a couple of times a 76 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: day and maybe you get up once to go get 77 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: a cup of coffee. But otherwise I watched every game, 78 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: and you know what my biggest takeaway is in a 79 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: lot of ways to win a basketball game. There's a 80 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: lot of ways to win a basketball game. You know 81 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: what simple analysis of the NCAA tournament would be is 82 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: you gotta have guards to win the NCAA tournament, and 83 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: by and large you do. You know, by large, you 84 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: have to have quality backcourt play, especially in college basketball 85 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: more so than the NBA. You gotta have quality. You 86 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: do have to have quality backcourt play. But a lot 87 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: more people can handle in an NBA game than you 88 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: know in a college game, and the game is is 89 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: just different. But you gotta have guards to win. In 90 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: twin March, Well, Ukon just want an extual championship. And 91 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: I'm not taking a shot at just the Newton. He 92 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: scored a ton of points thirty two hundred and sixty 93 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: six points in high school in El Paso. But the 94 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:58,239 Speaker 1: reality is that Yukon a program that previous to this 95 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: Yukon championship team, everyone had had not one, but two 96 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: point guards on it. You know, like people forget that 97 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: Shabaz was on the same team as Kemba, you know 98 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: that Ricky Moore was on the same team as as 99 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: Khalid el Amine. Right, So Yukon goes from having having 100 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: two point guards and one usually being a star. Right 101 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: And when anytime they won a national championship that they 102 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: always had a star guard, point guard and combo guard. 103 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 1: Same thing happened when you know, the Kemba and and 104 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: and Ben Gordon. Now he's obviously more of a combo 105 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: or two guard, but the point is you got to 106 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: have great guards, right like Hawkins is just a shooter 107 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: and Tristan Newton is not a point guard, and they 108 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: were able to get by without having a true point 109 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: I actually think that of the things that should be 110 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: discussed with Yukon's national championship run. I don't think the 111 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: level of dominance is it's impressive, but you have to 112 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: take the context of they didn't really play any of 113 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: the teams that would be considered the top twenty teams 114 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,559 Speaker 1: in the country based upon seating. That's not their own fault, 115 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: but I think that's one of the reasons they were 116 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: such an incredible disparity in some of these scores. And 117 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: I I'll fully admit I picked them to lose to 118 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: Iona in the one bracket I filled out. You know, 119 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: you got to pick some upsets, and the logic behind 120 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: it was, well, they didn't have a point guard, and 121 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: you know, traditionally, traditionally, when you don't have a point 122 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: guard and you face a team that pressures and presses 123 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: like Rick Pertino's clubs, ricktin is an incredible tournament coach 124 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: as well. But of the things that should be discussed 125 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: is a lot of times we think of college basketballs, 126 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: you get the best players, and whoever gets the best 127 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: players to play the hardest and play the most together 128 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: and share the ball, and you know, you create relative 129 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: space for him. My guys are better than your guys, 130 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: and they're playing together better. Now, I'd say that Yukon's 131 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: guys are really good, but that's a team that had 132 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: to run a system. They had to run a ton 133 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: of sets. They had to space you out, they had 134 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: to find ways to create shots for each other with 135 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: off the ball movement way more so than even on 136 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: ball screens. You know, that's just not a team. Now, 137 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: the Tristan Newton in the championship game is was just 138 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: bigger than Derri Entremaldi. Get in the lane and finish 139 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: over him. But getting it up to court was a 140 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: bit of a you know, was a bit of an adventure. 141 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: And here you're like in a national championship game and man, 142 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: they can barely get the ball up the court. So 143 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: I look at the Yukon thing, that was in many 144 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: ways a coaching win. You know, a coaching win in 145 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: that in order to win at that level with level efficiency, 146 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: with that roster, as impressive as a roster as it is, 147 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: it had to be created really all the preparation and 148 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: coaching you can do to put in sets and an 149 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: offense that fit your personnel and that allow you to 150 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: succeed without having a true point guard or somebody that really, 151 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: you know, puts it on the deck and creates for others. 152 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: So I think that was that's a fascinating case study. 153 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: But the but the end statement, which is a really 154 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: a statement I've heard said many a time, but it 155 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: couldn't be more true, is there's a lot of ways 156 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: to win a basket pot game, just aar especially a 157 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: college basketball game, and there's a lot of creative ways 158 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: to lose a basketball game as well. Bob Ritchie's going 159 00:09:58,400 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: to join us and we'll put him on the pod. 160 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: Of course, he was head coach Furman and they famously 161 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: beat Virginia, Like, are you kidding me? Without they beat Virginia, 162 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: You know, you don't you don't think that the key 163 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: Hay Clark is not was not the best point guard 164 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: in the country. But if you said, who's the most 165 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: solid point guard of the country. If you if you 166 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: pulled coaches and you put a list, he would be 167 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: among two or three that you would go. You know, 168 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: this guy may not win you a championship. This guy 169 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: may not win you a game in the NCAA tournament 170 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: based upon his own exploits. But this guy is not 171 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: going to lose you a game. And you know what 172 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: he did. He did. But there's a lot of ways 173 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: to win. I mean San Diego State in order to 174 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: win in the national semifinals. That's the beauty of Sania 175 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: State winning where man, they just kind of maul you defensively, 176 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: funnel you to their big, super physical they switch on everything, 177 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: you know, with certain lineups, and then you know, offensively 178 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: they kind of move it around. They run some sets, 179 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 1: but their best offenses, you know, rebounding and putting it in. Ironically, 180 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: I love the fact that the nation has finally learned 181 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: about xing on free throws, something they've done at Standing 182 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: or State for years and years, actually for over twenty years, 183 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: since nineteen ninety nine. It's a real drill they do 184 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: where not even drilling, it's you drill it in somebody's 185 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: head when they shoot free throws at practice. They have 186 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: three guys that are hoop and one guy shooting the 187 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 1: other two X and you just get a program in 188 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: your mind. This is what we do. I had a 189 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: lot of people will go, hey, I saw you tweet 190 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: about that. How do they practice that? It's really simple. 191 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: They just every time they shoot a free throw, they X. 192 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: No questions as so um, I mean, and look, you 193 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: look at how Florida Atlantic won games, you know, playing 194 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: way a lot of five out and then when you know, 195 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: and when Golden was in the game, they'd run four out, 196 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: one in with a ton of ball screen stuff. I 197 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: did think that against any state trying to throw it 198 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: to him in the post. You know. It's one of 199 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: the things that that that that I've come to believe, 200 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: which is there are exceptions to this rule. And Tristan 201 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: Newton played exceptionally well for the most part, is a 202 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: bit of an exception to the rule. And this is 203 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: going to be a hard one in the transfer portal. 204 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: It's the question that I think a lot of you 205 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: who are college coaches who listen wonder about when you're 206 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: finding a kid in the portal, is, um, what does 207 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 1: that kid look like at a higher level of competition? 208 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: And many of the and it's not as much right 209 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: now with some of the younger players because COVID and COVID, 210 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: your seniors and the transport portal and I think we'd 211 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: all agree that you miss more on high school players 212 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: now than you than you did previously, right because you know, 213 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: because the evals are the time to eval is very 214 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 1: very different, and you let them go to a lower 215 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: level school and then maybe you'd transfer up that they 216 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: developed and maybe they want to take that first scholarship 217 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: offer if they're not a top fifteen kid. But there 218 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: are times in which you'd level out a little bit 219 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: and a lot of Slava Golden. I think he's really 220 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: good and they used him very smartly. But in terms 221 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 1: of you know, catching and posting up and rolling, you know, 222 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: the San Diego State guys are really athletic and really strong. 223 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: They had at least three, if not five turnovers trying 224 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: to feed him in the post. So let's get back 225 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: to San Diego State. How they how do they win? 226 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: They win the way they always win, defense and rebounding 227 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: and then you just throw in a shot to win 228 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: a game. But that's very different from how Yukon won. Also, 229 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: very good defensively a bit of a different scheme, right, 230 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: because they don't switch five. They funnel you to snogo 231 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: or to clinging, and those guys are a gigantic backline, 232 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: and I thought that they did a clinging especially did 233 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: a better job as the year went on of recovering 234 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: and guarding out in the perimeter. But how they won 235 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: by spacing you, playing quickly in transition, shooting threes, especially 236 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: off their actions, getting slips and rolls, and then obviously 237 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: very good defensively San Diego State defense, and then just 238 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: kind of try and maul you on the glass, whether 239 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: it's field goals, field goal attempts, or free throw attempts. 240 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: You know, Miami, they want to pressure you defensively and 241 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: then spread you out and shoot a bunch of threes 242 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: and then run to rebound and then flo atlantic. Also 243 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: some five outs before out one end with a lot 244 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: of rollers. But um and I like, look, you could 245 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: easily make the case they should have won the Sandy 246 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: State game because their actions they ran were incredible. But 247 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: you got to prepare for the whole team, and there's 248 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: a portion of that game that they weren't prepared for 249 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: with the with the free throw box, outs. But the 250 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: end all be all takeaway is there's a lot of 251 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: ways to win college basketball games. You know. Sometimes it's 252 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: with five out, sometimes it's with big lineups. Sometimes there's 253 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: small lineups. And I also appreciate that these teams are 254 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: committed to who they are mostly because of their personnel, 255 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: but some of because this is who they are, right 256 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: Like Sandy States. Personnel has changed over especially over the 257 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: last ten years. You got what you know, some are 258 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: scoring guards, some are just the tending guards whatever. But 259 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: they kind of you know, they'll adapt defensively. The idea 260 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: is still the same. The other part too, it is 261 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: Dannie Hurley kind of dismissed this, and he's going to 262 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: come on the pod, but he said, you know, he 263 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: made it out like the Big East didn't really get 264 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: them back to where they are. And look, he would 265 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: know about his program far better than we would. But 266 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: I would challenge him on that because here's the part 267 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: of the American that everybody in the conference would say, 268 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: but they would never say aloud because you just don't 269 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: say it when you're in a conference. It's really hard 270 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: to get people in stores Connecticut or and you know, 271 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: not just the students on campus, but to get people 272 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: from West Hartford to drive in for two lane, when 273 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: which Chita was down to start ly started to get down, 274 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: like whichta East Carolina, you know South Florida. These are 275 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: just not even Houston. When Houston got good, like that's 276 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: it's unless there's a high ranking by their name. What 277 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: about Houston makes me get up out of my bed 278 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 1: and look, this is not the same Big East. It 279 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: doesn't have Syracuse. Georgetown's not any good. You don't have Pittsburgh, 280 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: so you don't have some of these traditional rivalries for 281 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: a lot of the older people that come to those games, 282 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: and they come because they want to see Georgetown versus Yukon, 283 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 1: they want to Villanova, but there's at least a lot 284 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: more familiarity. And then you add in Xavirew is really good. 285 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: De Paul has at least been competitive. But Providence is 286 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: old Big East as well, you know Northeastern kids, So 287 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: there is there's some familiarity. And what it does is 288 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: it allows you to sell seats and bring back the 289 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 1: positive vibes even if it didn't look at all like 290 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: the old Big East, and it looks partially so like it. 291 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: The fact is that just the name the Big East 292 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: kind of stirs up all the memories of all the 293 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 1: great teams and games in the past. And you know, 294 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 1: the other statement of college basketball is, hey, your league 295 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: matters way more in terms of filling up your building 296 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: than it does some sort of league pride and representation. 297 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: Like the Mountain West reaching the Final four does not 298 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,479 Speaker 1: suddenly eliminate the fact that the Mountin West hadn't won 299 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: a tournament game in years. You know, Sandy year State one, 300 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 1: But you've got to be in the right league. The 301 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: right league is kind of everything, you know, And as 302 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: Santy your State explores the possibility of what league they 303 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: want to get into, you know, what the pack looks 304 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: like and what the Big twelve looks like. It's really 305 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: really important facility wise. They can absolutely compete in the 306 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: Big Twelve today. As of today, they could. Their practicability 307 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: would be right there, middle of the pack, The arena 308 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: would be right there, probably middle of the pack. But 309 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: please understand, it's a higher level of competition than a 310 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: game by game basis. And like, no one thinks more 311 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: of what ten Miles has done at San Jose State. 312 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 1: But if San Jose State is you know, close to 313 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: the bottom of your league. Look at the bottom of 314 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 1: the Big Twelve. At the bottom of the Big Twelve 315 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: at the end of the season was Texas Tech and 316 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: Oklahoma State and West Virginia, so whereas Wyoming that was 317 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: a dumpster fire Colorado State, you know, and then you 318 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: get to San Jose State, So you got to be 319 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 1: in the right league geographically, and you've got to be 320 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: in the right league in terms of the level of 321 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: player that you're bringing in. And like, I'm interested to 322 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: see what BYU does. I think BYU should be better 323 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: than they've been, but they were fifth placed in the WCC. 324 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: What are they What are they gonna look like? What 325 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 1: are they gonna look like in the Big twelve? That's 326 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,719 Speaker 1: big boy basketball. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports 327 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows 328 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 1: at Fox Sports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio 329 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: app search f SR to listen live. Second statement is 330 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: got to be in the right league. Yeah, I think 331 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: I think Beeheim said it several times over about Syracuse 332 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 1: and I know that he made a Final four while 333 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: in the ACC. But they haven't been competitive at the 334 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: top of the a SEC. They're in the wrong league. 335 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: That's not who they are, and Yukon fell apart for 336 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: a lot of reasons, but being in the wrong league 337 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: was a big, big reason, big big reason. Last college 338 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: basketball statement is I'm becoming more and more aware of 339 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 1: a lot of these NIL deals and how they're the norm. 340 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: They're not one off that guys are getting well compensated. 341 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: I don't think it's as universal as many in the 342 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 1: portal would lead you to believe, or many pun ins 343 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 1: would lead you believe. But they're at the top end. 344 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: There's a lot of money to be had, and like, look, 345 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: this is the path we've chosen. But I think there's 346 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: and and Dan Hurley pointed this out. He said on 347 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:38,719 Speaker 1: his roster, no one came to Yukon because of NIL 348 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: And I think that's probably the smartest way to say that. 349 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that you're not going to want to 350 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: or have to compensate guys when they transfer. It's just 351 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: the reality is, like, Okay, if somebody's offering you something 352 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: and somebody's offering you nothing, you know, no matter how 353 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: much you like the person offering you and nothing, they're 354 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: not offering you a something. And so you go somewhere 355 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: they're going to offer something, even if you don't like 356 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,239 Speaker 1: them as much as the guy offering nothing right on 357 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: the other hand, you just it's a buyer beware, you know. 358 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: And some of these kids are really smart. Like I'll 359 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: without naming names because people get really in a huff. 360 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: A good portion of these guys understand, hey, this is 361 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: actually as good as it's going to get. I am 362 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: not I'm very unlikely to be able to capitalize in 363 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: the NBA on my basketball ability collecting money overseas, and 364 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: for some of these guys, like, look, you gotta go 365 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: overseas to make money overseas, but oftentimes to make the 366 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: real money overseas, you gotta play at a lesser rate. 367 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: You know, some of these guys, you're gonna go make 368 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: four or five six a month just to start built 369 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: up a resume and reputation, and then you start making money. Meanwhile, 370 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: this is time spend away from the United States, time 371 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: spent overseas. That's not always easy for most of these guys. 372 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: So you know, like I know of a guard who 373 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: left and I asked his people, why is he leaving. 374 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: He's in a great situation. He's been a starter, he's 375 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: been really well regarded and they were asking for upwards 376 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: of a half a million to six hundred thousand dollars. 377 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if they'll actually get it. I don't 378 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: know how these deals are actually done in terms of 379 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: with the collectives and what it looks like on paper 380 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: as opposed to what it looks like when it's being discussed. 381 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 1: But their point was, he's not an NBA player, this 382 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: is the time in which he can make the most money. 383 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: Of course he should go. And I understand that like 384 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: a Hunter Dickinson thing. You know, Hunter Dickinson seems like 385 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 1: a pretty smart kid. Now I'm not sure I love 386 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: the idea if he goes to Maryland suddenly, like he 387 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 1: wouldn't He wouldn't go to Maryland the first time. And 388 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: I know that he tries to. He tells people all 389 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: the time that they didn't offer him. I've been told 390 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: that nothing would be further from the truth. But all 391 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: of that is it really is a mood point, because 392 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: what matters is Hunter Dickinson, whether you like it or not. 393 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: And I just I don't think you transfer in your league, 394 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: especially when you played in that league for four years 395 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 1: and now you're going to compete against a school that 396 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: you have a degree from I don't know. It's the 397 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: Hunter Dickinson is going to be if he goes to 398 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: a Big ten school, if he goes home to Maryland, 399 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: how can you welcome him back to Michigan hoops as 400 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: an alum? And maybe it goes really really well with Maryland. 401 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: But even at Maryland, like is he one of your guys? 402 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 1: If he has one great season where he played four 403 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: seasons against you and there was a lot of shit 404 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: talking about each other, going back and forth, especially Dickinson 405 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 1: talking about Maryland. Now he can put it off and say, hey, 406 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: it was Mark Jers and it wasn't. But it doesn't 407 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: really matter. It really doesn't. What matters is how we 408 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 1: view it. But I do think that there's a certain 409 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: reality to it where you go, hey, I could stay 410 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: here and play another year, or I can put myself 411 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: in a it's like a it's like a guy who's 412 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: should be franchise tag one more year, or you get 413 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: out of it and go and make some legit money. 414 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: Because the likehood is Hunter Dickinson. While he could make 415 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, a million dollars, the likelihood of him 416 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: making a million dollars in the NBA in the next 417 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 1: year or two is not strong. He's a very good 418 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: college about some player. This is not me shitting on 419 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: him in anyway. I like him a lot more and 420 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: people are like, wow, what about his attitude? And it's theatrics, like, 421 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: you know, lookum, some of that stuff can be a 422 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 1: little over the top. It's usually not directed. It's the 423 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: m more directed the fans. He's like a World Wrestling 424 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: It's like a WWE character more so than than any 425 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: sort of like uh, flamboyant basketball player bad boy. But 426 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: we've discussed before. You do have to have a bad guy. 427 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 1: Every movie has to have a bad guy. Every basketball 428 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: team has to have a bad guy. You just can't 429 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: have too many of them, you know, because then they, 430 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: you know, then they become a gang. Like you know, 431 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: you get two or three hundred Dickinson's and it's like 432 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: it's like a biker gang. Yeah, we don't need we 433 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: don't need all that. I guess I was Tennessee this year. Anyway, 434 00:26:55,119 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: point is I understand Dickinson going like, hey, I fulfill 435 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: my obligations here. Now I'd like to be go and 436 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: capitalize on everything I've built. I do that I understand 437 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 1: now I don't know what he would have made to 438 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: stay and play another year and been a true hardcore 439 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: Michigan man, And maybe I don't think it's possible in 440 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: this case. Some of these relationships, the coaches are worn out, 441 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: the players are worn out. It's better for just it's 442 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: a fresh start. I think that's a good portion of it. 443 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: So I understand, but I'm also going to point out 444 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: that that doesn't win you championships. What Yukon did was 445 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,719 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, they have a couple of transfers. Christan 446 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 1: Newton stepped up a level from East Carolina, moved up 447 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: a level. The rest of their transfers are guys that 448 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: were looking for a new home. They weren't dudes that 449 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: were chasing a check and a good you know they're 450 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: starting lineup. Those are guys they they recruited and they developed. 451 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 1: The traditional way still works Standy State has always been 452 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: a program that takes the transfers always. Now, not all 453 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: these guys, they're about half and half with this team, um, 454 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: but the transfers weren't guys that were any different from 455 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: other transfers they have. You know, Jada don Ledie comes 456 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: up the bench for him like there's the guy who's 457 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:37,239 Speaker 1: on his third third school, right, so he's played at 458 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: two high majors and he transferred I would say down 459 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: to them to the Mountain West. Even though UM Sandy 460 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: State is a high major. That's still transferring down a 461 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: level from Big twelve and Big ten. Derren Trammel, he 462 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: transferred up all of them, right. He was San Francisco City, 463 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: then he was at Seattle. Uh the head coach got 464 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: fired right early in the season, and then he left 465 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: at the end of the season after twenty games. Those 466 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: are the same type of transfer as the staeniorge State 467 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: has always got, always got. Now they have some NIL, 468 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: I'm sure, But I would also tell you that those 469 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: aren't guys that were commanding huge dollars in NIL in 470 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: order to pick in San Diego State. Tell everybody they 471 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: were only chasing after the NIL. So statement number three 472 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: about college basketball is there's a smart way to do this, 473 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: and there's no Just like there's no one way to 474 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: win a basketball game, there's no one way to build 475 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: a team. But you absolutely positively do not have to 476 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: build a team by going out and paying top dollar 477 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: or the top guys on the market in NIL and 478 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: you can be very, very successful. You know, Nigel Pack 479 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: was the only guy that somebody laid out top dollars two. 480 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: And I'm not sure if you if you've researched it. 481 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: But the guy Rui who was championed as you know, 482 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: mister and I l and he was ragging about how 483 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: much money he's gonna give next year. You thought this 484 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: year was good. Yeah, Now he's being sued by his 485 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: business partner and their stock is in the toilet. So 486 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: there's a lot going on there. There's a lot of 487 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: ways to win a game. Being in the right league matters, 488 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: and you can't. It doesn't mean you can't. You don't 489 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: have to, and many have been more successful building a 490 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: team with players who aren't chasing the largest check. All right, 491 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: let's get to the Angel Reeth thing. If you watched 492 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: any of my stuff on social media, if you listen 493 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: to anyway things on the radio show, which by the way, 494 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: you can listen to daily three to five Eastern twelve 495 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: to two pacifics if you've watched, if you've listened, you 496 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: would know that I feel like I'm the only one 497 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: telling the real truth here from a like a basketball perspective. 498 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: First thing, is if I was excited about the game. 499 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: You know, you're not getting me to go into the 500 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: Agerewthal mode and go like, well, you know, just women's basketball, 501 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna lie. I haven't always been a 502 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: fan of women's basketball. And there's a lot of the 503 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: theatrics and stuff that took place in that game, which 504 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: I would say a lot of us who parachuted into 505 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: win we're like, what, this is a weird alternative universe. 506 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: That's actually probably the lead in talking about women's college basketball. 507 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: There's a time at ESPN when I was asked to 508 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: do what's called a full circle broadcast, and the full 509 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: Circle broadcast was like six cameras and me and one 510 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: of the lists. We're basically like, I had to kind 511 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: of call the game, but really we're just talking about 512 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: all the different screenshots, all the different ISOs on coaches 513 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: and ISOs on players and what we're seeing and all 514 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: the surrounding things. It was before the days in which 515 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: you could really go second screen, but it was a 516 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: great second screen show. It's pretty fun. But I remember 517 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: spending and it was in Cleveland. It was that Rutgers 518 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: Yukon Final four. Rutgers Tennessee Final four where Imus and 519 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: said is stupid stuff the day the day of the 520 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: championship game, the day of the championship game. So I 521 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: just come out to men's final four, flown to the 522 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: women's Final four, and I just remember, like, it looks 523 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: like the NCAA tournament. It sounds like the NCAA tournament, 524 00:32:53,320 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: but it's it's like an alternative version of everything you're 525 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: used to. And the perfect example is that championship game 526 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: where women's basketball is officiated very differently than men's. Usually 527 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: you can't the coaches can't say anything to the officials, 528 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: and the Eyewall coach complained about it afterwards, like I 529 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: just couldn't even communicate with it. Meanwhile, at the other end, 530 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: I mean, that's like a Wayne Newton look that she 531 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: was rocking. You know, Kim Moki is wearing some like 532 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: ridiculously bright outfit and I know that's her thing. But again, 533 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: the men's side doesn't do that. It's very different. So 534 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: I've just used that as the backdrop. I mean, the 535 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: the taunting and trash talking and hand gestures like outside 536 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,040 Speaker 1: of too small that no one does that in the 537 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: men's game. And it's one thing to do with it. 538 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: It's another thing that's champion. But in the game itself, 539 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: I was super excited. I thought South Carolina's game plan, 540 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 1: you know, of never running to it. Kaylin Clark off 541 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: a ball screener. Just when she brings up the ball 542 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: to court, just run two editor, Baker give it up 543 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: and then denier of the ball back and then when 544 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: she gets the back, run two editor again. Not that hard, 545 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: makes somebody else speach you, But I thought that that game, 546 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: you know, the Lsuiowa game was ruined by the officiating. 547 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: You know, even Angel Reyese being in foul trouble in 548 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 1: the first half, Like, what are we doing? Came here 549 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: to see the kids playing, not you ref But part 550 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: of that is the alternative world of women's college basketball. 551 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,919 Speaker 1: We see an officiated be bad in the men's game. 552 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: The differences in the women's game, especially the female officials, 553 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: in like an effort to show solidarity with each other, 554 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: but also in kind of ownership of the spot. They 555 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 1: think they own the sport. The officials, it's really the 556 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,879 Speaker 1: egos there in many ways are ridiculous. It is considering 557 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: your guys are away supposed to be in this together, 558 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 1: to try and grow the game, and you're not helping. 559 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:11,399 Speaker 1: So I thought the deficiating was atrocious. You know, yes, 560 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: they let Kim Moke get away with everything, and you know, 561 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: you give Caitlyn Clark a technical foul for batting a 562 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: ball out of bounds, like a delay a game, like 563 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: what are we doing? It's a championship game. But the 564 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: most important part is all this angel res nonsense, you know, 565 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 1: and I understand trash talk takes place. I've actually played 566 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: basketball as you know. There's dinners being trash talk and 567 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 1: just outright taunting. And you know, Caitlyn Clark has said 568 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 1: when she did that, you can't see me. It was 569 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: to her coach, she had a shot, she turned around. 570 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,720 Speaker 1: I think it was because it was against this Hailey 571 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: van Leth, who is a noted trash talker. And the 572 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:56,399 Speaker 1: first thing is like, guys don't talk that much trash. 573 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: They're not that loud about it, they're not that proud 574 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: about it. And maybe some of it is we don't 575 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: hear it as much because some of the orientas are 576 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: a little acquieter on the women's side times. But it's 577 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 1: like they take what they think is the core part 578 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: of basketball, the trash tog element and amp it up 579 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: to a level, almost a dramatic level, that it doesn't 580 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: actually exist in the men's game. Like now, that stuff happens, 581 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: Like I said, I watched all sixty eight games. That 582 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: shit didn't happen anywhere else other than the women's games. 583 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,720 Speaker 1: So that part's a little weird. But if you because 584 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: so many people didn't watch Kaitlin Clark, it's not like 585 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: she's taunting everybody she plays against with hand gestures and 586 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 1: getting in their face. Angel Reese said she did the 587 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 1: John Cena. You can't see me for two reasons. One 588 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: because they didn't guard one of the girls from South 589 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: Carolina and two, you know, basically everyone else supported her 590 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 1: because Kathan Clark had done that once in the Louisville Okay, 591 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: first of all, so let me get this straight. An 592 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: opposing team dared another person to shoot as part as 593 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 1: the scatter report, and you took such offense to it 594 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 1: that you talk trash when you're up fifteen against the 595 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: same team and you play for a different team in 596 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 1: a different game. Just walk yourself through how bizarre that is. 597 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 1: And you're like, okay, let's move on. The Twitter spear 598 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: wants to support her because well, it's about all women, 599 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:50,359 Speaker 1: and all women should support all women. Okay, that doesn't 600 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 1: make sense even and the other thing, and I'll get 601 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 1: from former teammates other guys, I respect you played hey man, 602 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 1: just trash shock. She can't take she wasn't talking to Angelis, 603 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: she wasn't talking to LSU and oh yeah, by the way, 604 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,800 Speaker 1: it's not trash talk to wait till you're up fifteen 605 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,280 Speaker 1: when no one's been talking the whole game, getting somebody's 606 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 1: face and then taunt them. And I can't even I 607 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: can't even begin to get into the well. I don't 608 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: want to go to the White House because Joe Biden 609 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: some it seems like nice old lady was like, I 610 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 1: just invite everybody over, you know, Jill Biden. It's like, 611 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: I get it. It's like a participation trophy. And but 612 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,240 Speaker 1: Joe Biden was like, is very much like your mom 613 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,760 Speaker 1: when you had a birthday party when you were seven 614 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: years old. Okay, you have to invite the entire class, 615 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: so nobody's sad. That's what it is like. And he 616 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: didn't think that's how this White House things. I would 617 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 1: I would invite you to go and watch the the 618 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: vice president go into the locker room of Howard after 619 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 1: they got blown out in the NCAA tournament. You buy thirty. 620 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 1: She's like, you made everybody so proud today. They're just 621 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 1: so proud of you. Like those guys in the locker 622 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 1: room for Howard. Those guys are mad, they're pissed. They 623 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: wanted to win, Like there's no outa boy because you 624 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: want Yeah, Howard had a great year. It doesn't matter 625 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: to a college because he wants to win the freaking game. 626 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 1: So it sounds condescending, but that's who they are. They're 627 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,800 Speaker 1: not trying to be condescending. They're actually just trying to 628 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 1: be nice to people. But it's so weird because so 629 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 1: many people are not really nice. And and then Joe 630 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 1: Biden thing like she went to the game. It was 631 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 1: a great game, a great atmosphere, did a great number, 632 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 1: and I'm sure she's sitting there going like thanks. She'd 633 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: invite everybody over and everybody will be happy, winners, losers. 634 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 1: It's the right. So Angel Reyes is like taking it 635 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 1: as well. She said shortsmanship because I didn't show good sportsmanship. Well, 636 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: first of all, it wasn't good sportsmanship. It didn't didn't 637 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 1: exude the class you need. And part of it is, 638 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 1: I think most of it is who you play for. 639 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 1: You know, ask yourself this, if you're a coach and 640 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 1: you're listening to this, you can let your kid go 641 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: into at that. You can't see me when you're up 642 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: fifteen and a championship game, says, celebrating with their teammates 643 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 1: first time, nobody would. It's not what we do, you know, 644 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 1: And then you know, she gets into the she just 645 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 1: walks herself into some political statement that doesn't make any sense. 646 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,880 Speaker 1: She doesn't want to go to Joe Biden, but she'll 647 00:40:51,920 --> 00:41:01,240 Speaker 1: go with the Obama's huh excuse me, It's not actually 648 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 1: the way it works. And what are the chances that 649 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 1: Amberis knew that Joe Biden was Barack Obama's licepressing? What 650 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 1: are the what are the chances? But this is what 651 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 1: happens when you know you people are saying things. I 652 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 1: mean like look when when she first got on the 653 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:29,360 Speaker 1: set and said that basically she was haunting Caitlyn Clark 654 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 1: because she felt Angel felt disrespected, or that she so 655 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:40,879 Speaker 1: greatly disrespected a girl from South Carolina. When she first 656 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 1: said that, that's when you need as an SID or 657 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: somebody who's watching out for a young woman to pull 658 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 1: her aside and say like, hey, let's just keep it 659 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 1: to the game. And if Caitlyn Clark comes back and 660 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 1: financially she should go back, Kaylor Clark comes back, it's 661 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,959 Speaker 1: not enough. Like it can't be mad anymore. No one's 662 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 1: that were mad just can't really be upset because it 663 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 1: just doesn't make sense. Yeah, it's just saying something that 664 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 1: doesn't I mean, it happens when you're young first get 665 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,919 Speaker 1: on TV. I don't understand the logic. But the last 666 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,840 Speaker 1: thing is this, it's a it's a great opportunity for 667 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 1: the women's game to grow. I just don't know if 668 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 1: they didn't screw up for many of us BEN fans 669 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 1: or mainstream basketball fans with the kind of the different, 670 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 1: the flamboyance of of one coach, the ridiculously terrible officiating, 671 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 1: and then this taunting nonsense which turns a lot of 672 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:51,240 Speaker 1: people off because the actual substance of the game LSU 673 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 1: was awesome. I mean, I know, I'm sure part of 674 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 1: it is nil, but they were so deep they were 675 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 1: in foul trouble, and you know, they bring people out 676 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: the bench, they can make kids, whereas Iowa, when you 677 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 1: get in the bench, it's not the same. Um, Taylor 678 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,320 Speaker 1: Clarks cured for the game. I mean last year I 679 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 1: saw Armore as a chucker. She continues to develop, and 680 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 1: LSU was they were. They weren't perfect, but they were 681 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 1: close to, especially considering the foul trouble me and they 682 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 1: had fifty nine fifty nine a half and they had 683 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 1: like three or four players in tul trouble. It's crazy, 684 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't really. I I don't think 685 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: anybody who's not on air or if they stop and 686 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:37,840 Speaker 1: think about it once the champion Angel Rose hunting Taylor 687 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 1: Clark like, that's never what's a bit about? Okay, I 688 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 1: told you I had. I had men's college basketball, I 689 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: had women's Now here's this on the NBA. I'm not 690 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 1: gonna lie to you until you I watched every NBA game. UM, 691 00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 1: I try and watch as much as possible. Obviously, once 692 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 1: he gets late February early March, very hard to watch 693 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 1: a full game, especially if name But when I've watched, 694 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 1: and I've watched a lot, I continue to believe that 695 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:18,360 Speaker 1: Joel Embiide is the most overall gifted, talented player, and 696 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,840 Speaker 1: he's the last couple two years he's put it together. 697 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 1: I mean, a man that size over seventy tall, shoot threes, handle, rebound, passed, 698 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 1: do everything. He's great. And if you want to give 699 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 1: him the MVP, because he hasn't got one and he's 700 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 1: probably the best player in the league this year, I 701 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 1: can't really argue with that. Yoki is equally remarkable. I 702 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 1: didn't love that. I mean, I said the summer radio show, 703 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,880 Speaker 1: I don't know how you'd give him be the MVP 704 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: when he didn't play against Yokich the second time around. 705 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,359 Speaker 1: If they go and play in Denver, well, why don't 706 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 1: you playing that game? You want to show yourself a 707 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,279 Speaker 1: competing against the other guy in the league and make 708 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 1: an argument. You can't just make the argument, Hey, when 709 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 1: we played at my place, we dominated you, all right, 710 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 1: Now go back and play at their place to see 711 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 1: how that goes. But yokis and I've seen the stat 712 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 1: where you know he gives up more shots at the 713 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 1: rim than anybody in the NBA. That's because that's by design. 714 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 1: He's an amazing player and different from it being right, 715 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,280 Speaker 1: obviously not as athletic, not as gifted, but he finds 716 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 1: a way to make place an unbelievable pass or a 717 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 1: smart rebounder, a good shot blocker, and he's carried his 718 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 1: team to greater heights than EMBID in terms of the 719 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:42,359 Speaker 1: last two regular seasons. It's a regular season award. If 720 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 1: you give it to Yoki, I'm not really offended. I 721 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,600 Speaker 1: think he's incredible and he's gonna play more games than HIMID, 722 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 1: even though he didn't play last night at the time 723 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:54,400 Speaker 1: of this recording. Um Janni's similar to the other two. 724 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 1: The whole thing's built around him. He gives you things 725 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 1: to both ends and nobody else can. And considering how 726 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 1: well the team is performed and how everything's built around him, 727 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 1: there's no Yeah, I got no problem if you give 728 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 1: a tea once. But in terms of value to a team, 729 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 1: I would make the statement that Jalen Brunson should win 730 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 1: the MVP because what you have to do is think 731 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 1: back to the end of last season, the Knicks or 732 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,799 Speaker 1: an abject disaster. There's a good amount of conversation that 733 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 1: Tims this was going to be it. He can't connect 734 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:34,239 Speaker 1: with these guys. Blood out of a rock, Julius Randal, miserable, 735 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,359 Speaker 1: end of season playoff run Josh and Nick Starwards. Now, yes, 736 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 1: Clinton Grimes has come into his own, but let's be honest, 737 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 1: the one big change is Jalen Brunson. Brunson's efficient, he's 738 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 1: but he also it's not like he doesn't score, right, 739 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 1: I mean he's scoring mid twenties a game. He's obviously 740 00:46:55,200 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 1: a very good pastor excellent defender. And there's there's a 741 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,239 Speaker 1: winning quality. They go last year they and they already 742 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,319 Speaker 1: won forty seven games this year. Last year they won 743 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,720 Speaker 1: I think thirty seven all year long. But more than anything, 744 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,440 Speaker 1: it's just the vibes of the team, right, It's not 745 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:19,279 Speaker 1: even about pure wins and losses. Like the Knicks are fun, 746 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,480 Speaker 1: the Knicks are good, the Knicks competitive. And Julish Randall's 747 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 1: having the best season of his career. Huh, what could 748 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 1: that be about? Maybe he's got a point guard and 749 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,320 Speaker 1: a leader that takes care of all the stuff that 750 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 1: Julish Randall doesn't want to do and can't do. You know, 751 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,719 Speaker 1: Julish Ranam's not a leader, is not a talker. He's 752 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 1: not a guy who sets other people up. That is 753 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson. That's what Jalen Brunson does, and so all 754 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 1: Jewish Randall has to do is find his spots in 755 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,879 Speaker 1: his places on the floor where you concern, and he's 756 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 1: very good at that. Look around the rest of the Knicks. 757 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 1: How many other guys are having career years? What do 758 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 1: you think that's about? An ego list superstar who creates 759 00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:01,520 Speaker 1: shots and opportunities for other people. My point is that 760 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 1: if I had a vote, and for some reason I 761 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,480 Speaker 1: do not, and other people do, but whatever, they watch 762 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 1: more of the league, that's fine with it. If I 763 00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,920 Speaker 1: had a vote, I would vote Jalen Brunson as the 764 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:18,840 Speaker 1: league's MVP. The change there is amazing. The trajectory of Tibbs, 765 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 1: the trajectory of the Knicks, the culture of the organization, 766 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 1: all of that. All of that, you don't give him 767 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,920 Speaker 1: one hundred percent of the credit, but you absolutely need 768 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,919 Speaker 1: to give him a good portion of credit. And then 769 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 1: when you consider the tangibles for how much he scores, assists, 770 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 1: steals the idea. He's a very good defensive player. Why 771 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:49,879 Speaker 1: can't Jalen Brunson met the MVP of the NBA? All right, 772 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 1: that's it for this spot. More guests to come. I'm 773 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,080 Speaker 1: Doug Gotlie. This is all ball.