1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Life is not a race. Life is a marathon and 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: you tackle it every single day, one step at a time. 3 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hello, Emily about it Here? You are listening 4 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 2: to episode one fifty four of Hurdle, a wellness focused 5 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: podcast where I sit down with inspiring individuals to talk 6 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 2: about their big wins, tough moments, and everything in between. 7 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: On the show, you can expect vulnerability, motivation, and candid 8 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: discussions with everyone from top athletes and CEOs to aspiring 9 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: entrepreneurs on what it really takes to follow your passions. 10 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: My mission is simple to inspire you to be your 11 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: best self, move with intention, and of course, have some 12 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 2: fun along the way. 13 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 3: Today I am so. 14 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: Amped to be chatting with trainer and wellness coach Massy Arias. 15 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: I have been following Massi for gosh some time now, 16 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: so I was super interested to have this conversation with 17 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: her and learn about her backstory, which, without a doubt, 18 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: man has a lot of hurdles. In today's episode, she 19 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: goes into a whole lot of detail, getting into all 20 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: of it about her coming to the US from the 21 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 2: Dominican Republic at age thirteen, dealing with being bullied in school, 22 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: navigating abusive relationships, and also her brother's stage four cancer diagnosis. 23 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 2: She also shares about the hurdle moment that got her 24 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 2: into fitness, slipping into a deep depression that had her 25 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: barely leaving her bedroom for eight months. Learning how to 26 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 2: exercise change everything for Massie, inspiring her to not only 27 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: get strong physically, but also mentally. Now today, the New 28 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: Mom lives in Los Angeles and she offers up fitness 29 00:01:55,800 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: plans and inspiration to her millions of social media followers, 30 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 2: feeling more fulfilled and excited for both life and her 31 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: career than she ever imagined. There were so many things 32 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 2: I loved about hearing from Massi today. 33 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 3: First of all, her resilience, her strength. 34 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 2: I mean, there were points in the conversation where I 35 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 2: had more questions, but I just kind of wanted to 36 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 2: let her speak because again, her passion, her strength, it 37 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: is awe inspiring. And also I can appreciate that she's 38 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: a single mom, She's working her butt off, and she 39 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 2: really puts a heavy, heavy emphasis on the importance of 40 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: education when it comes to her training, to furthering her 41 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 2: business and so on and so forth. So MASSI, thanks 42 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 2: so much for your time. I am inspired by you. 43 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: And I'm so excited to bring this episode to the feed. 44 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 2: Before we get into it today, I'm going to keep 45 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 2: this intro short. 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Voicemails questions I want to hear from you. 63 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 3: I want to. 64 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: Answer them on an upcoming episode of Hurdle. Click the 65 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: link in the show notes and leave me a voice 66 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: message today with that, let's get to hurdling. 67 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 3: Today on the. 68 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: Show, I am sitting down with Massy Arias. She is 69 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 2: a personal trainer, she's a health coach, she's an entrepreneur. 70 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 3: How you doing today? 71 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: I am doing great. Thank you so much for having me. 72 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: It's a beautiful day here in California. 73 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 3: I have to give you some props. 74 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: I personally my fitness wardrobe very tame on the color front. You, 75 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 2: my friend, post the most beautiful looking on palms as 76 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 2: you are doing all of the crazy things that you do, 77 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: but your color profile is on point. 78 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: And the crazy thing is that I lived in New 79 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: York for twelve years and when I initially moved to 80 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: the States, it was in New York City and my 81 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: favorite color was black, and it was black head to 82 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: toe all day, every day. I still love black, but 83 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: I started to add a lot more color into my 84 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: life when I came to California. When I moved, it 85 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: made that transition from New York to California. But it's 86 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: it's good. 87 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: Do you feel self conscious at all about the sweat 88 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: and the colors? Because sometimes that's what prevents me from 89 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: going bright colors for working out. 90 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: Like, here's the thing, we're all adults. If I'm working out, 91 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: I'm working out. I don't care if it's I don't work. 92 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: I don't usually wear workout clothes to look cute in 93 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: the clothes. Yes, I love a nice outfit. I love color, 94 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: but I don't stay away or I don't steer away 95 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: from color because of the sweat, Like that is something 96 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: that's going to happen regardless. So no, I don't stay away. 97 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: But I know what you mean by just sweat areas 98 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: looking a little suspect, But I don't. 99 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't mind it just a little suspect. Well, 100 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 3: you mentioned moving to New York. You did so from 101 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 3: the Dominican Republic. Is that right? 102 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, So talk to me about that time in 103 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: your life and moving to New York City as a 104 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: young girl. 105 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: Oh my god, where do I start. I came to 106 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: the States when I was thirteen, and just like every 107 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: dream of all immigrants like you, moved to the States 108 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: to get a better life, have a better future. And 109 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: that's what my parents did. So I first came with 110 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: my brother. I ended up in Queens, Southozone Park, and 111 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: that was a really hard transition because I did not 112 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: want to leave. I did not understand why am I 113 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: going to you know, I'm thirteen, I don't know any better. 114 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: And it was a really hard transition learning and adapting 115 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: to the culture. I was bullied a lot in school 116 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: just because of my accent. And it is funny because 117 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: it wasn't even about other cultures that were making fun 118 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: of me, but my own, like Latinos right, So that 119 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 1: to me was very interesting. My father at the time 120 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: was in a relationship with this amazing woman who she 121 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: really really took the time to concentrate on me learning 122 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: the language, so she would never speak to me in Spanish, 123 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: barely just when she needed to translate a few things. 124 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: And I took it upon myself to actually, you know, 125 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: once that rebellious side of me of not wanting to 126 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: move and leave my friends, and just as I was 127 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: just a teenager, once that I came to terms with 128 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: that realization like okay, well this is my new normal, 129 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: I took it upon myself to really integrate myself into 130 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: the culture and learn the environment. And when I enrolled 131 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: in high school, I was put in ESL English as 132 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: a second language, and a year later I was out 133 00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: and graduated. When I was seventeen, and then my brother 134 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: who came to the States with me, had gone back 135 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: home because he did not like the culture. He is 136 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: or was a mama's boy at that time, and he 137 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: just didn't have a lot of fun here, so it 138 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: was really really hard for him to adjust to the culture. 139 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: And that same brother, we are one year apart, he 140 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: develops burketsymphoma, and in the transition for me graduating high 141 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: school and applying to Sunni schools, meaning out of the 142 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: state schools, my brother gets terminal cancer stage four, and 143 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: me being the only person you know, my dad, Yes, 144 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 1: he understands here and there English, but he still has 145 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: maintained his businesses pretty much in like Spanglish. So I 146 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: took it upon myself. I said, you know what, I'm 147 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: not going to go away for school. This is more important. 148 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: I stayed in Queen's and I went to Queen's College, 149 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:12,719 Speaker 1: and for about a year I spent it in Presbyterian 150 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: Hospital with my brother and my mother taking care of him. 151 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: I've always been someone that in the back of my head, 152 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 1: I've always been, my mom tells me all the time 153 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: growing up, I've always been that person with big dreams. Right, 154 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: So my parents, especially being the only girl in the family, 155 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: had a lot of put a lot of responsibility on 156 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: me and had a lot of hopes that I would 157 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 1: be as mature as I was growing up. I would 158 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: just carry that on, and for me it was really 159 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: hard just transitioning, graduating and having certain dreams to then 160 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: wait a second, I have to stop all these dreams. 161 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: My family is more important. From seventeen to nineteen was 162 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: when my my brother came with terminal cancer and I decide, 163 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: you know what, let me just take care of my 164 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: brother and be there to support my family in any 165 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: way that I can. At that time, it was just 166 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: me translating for my mom. So in those two years, 167 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: one year spending in Presbyterian Hospital with my brother, I 168 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: was going to school full time, being in the hospital 169 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: full time with my mom, and working part time at 170 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: this store Aldo selling accessories. And I supported myself with 171 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: the school grants and my little job. So my brother 172 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: gets better. I getting into a relationship that truly I 173 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 1: was too young, to be quite honest with you. Too young, 174 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 1: didn't know what I was doing. And in a transition 175 00:10:56,040 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: from nineteen to twenty two, I can tell you that 176 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: I pretty much lost myself. My decision of emancipated. To 177 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: emancipate came at a heavy cost because I felt alone. 178 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: I didn't have my family, and then I fell into 179 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: lying to my parents because I couldn't keep up. I 180 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: couldn't keep up with school, I couldn't keep up with work. 181 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: I missed my family so much. I you know, the 182 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: decision to emancipate was not something that my parents agreed on. 183 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: So it was me rebelling and saying no, absolutely no, 184 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 1: I'm going to stay here and I'm going to make 185 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: something out of myself. So in these three years, I 186 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 1: literally was involved in a relationship that I taught me 187 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: a lot but gave me body dys morphia. And this person, 188 00:11:56,280 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: truly just this was expected every single thing I could 189 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: think a woman feels respected by so, and meaning I 190 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: was too young being in relationship with someone a little 191 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: bit older, a few years, not by a lot, but 192 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: a few years, a couple of years older, And it 193 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: was not fun. And I found myself lying to my 194 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: parents about this relationship, lying to my parents about my 195 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: performance in school, lying to my parents about what I 196 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: was doing every single day. And at nineteen I started 197 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: to get all these tattoos. I hid all these things 198 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: from my parents, and it was a couple of years 199 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: of complete just just recklessness. It truly shaped me with 200 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: a lot of insecurities. I was very disappointed in myself 201 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: for not carrying through the life that I said I 202 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: was going to carry through a young woman, and it 203 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: was I was spiraling and I had no control, pretty 204 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: much no control whatsoever. And some point I started feeling 205 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: that I was not living to the full, like to 206 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: my to the expectations that I had, to the expectation 207 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: that my parents had. And in the Latino culture, our 208 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: parents put a lot of responsibility on their children, and 209 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,719 Speaker 1: my parents knew, like they knew, Massie is going to 210 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: be something great. Massi is going to be something great. 211 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: And I wasn't great. So in those years of I'm 212 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: becoming a woman, not having my my my mother close 213 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: to me, just becoming a woman figuring things out on 214 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: my own, it was really really hard, and I was 215 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: so stubborn. I thought I could do it all and 216 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: everything's going to be okay, and I'm going to manage everything, 217 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna show my parents a My decision of 218 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: going against the group what they wanted me to do 219 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: was worth it. So then I made a decision of 220 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: I need to do something different. I really have to 221 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: open up to what's really happening. My father comes back 222 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: from the Dominican Republic, comes back to the States, and 223 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: I decide this relationship it's not going to like a 224 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: break broke up. And from the breakup, everything pretty much hit. 225 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: I said, what am I doing? My father comes back 226 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: and I quit everything. So in the next a months, 227 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: I spent it in a room my dad. I quit everything, 228 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: and my dad said, let me just help you. This 229 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: is what I'm here for. Let's reconnect this couple of 230 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: years or three or four years that he had been gone. 231 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: And I spent it in a room I used to 232 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: live in Brooklyn at that time, in this tiny little 233 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: apartment with my dad. I spent eight months in a room, 234 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: not doing anything. So that's when my depression and pretty 235 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: much my decision to start fitness came about. So in 236 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: this eight months, a lot of people suffer from depression 237 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: and suffer and exhibit different responses to it. I was 238 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: just not eating. And mind you, I'm almost five nine, 239 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: I'm a pretty tall person. I was down to one 240 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: hundred and ten pounds, but not one hundred and ten 241 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: pounds of ag she has lean muscle mass. Ah, she 242 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: looks great. No, it was just unhealthy and I was 243 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: not the healthiest person coming out of not living a 244 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: very healthy lifestyle. So my body started destroying itself. My 245 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: body started, my gum started receding, I was losing my hair. 246 00:15:54,160 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: I became so scrawny and so small. It was you 247 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: could see my rips. It was just not healthy. And 248 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: I tried pretty much everything from cognitive therapy to herbal 249 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: medicine to hypnosis to try to get these feelings of 250 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: just heartache. 251 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 2: I want to just unpack and double click for a moment, 252 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 2: going back to this time in your life where you 253 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: knew you weren't in the healthiest relationship, and because of that, 254 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 2: you started to hide aspects of your life, obviously all 255 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 2: of the tattoos with the people you care about. I mean, 256 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 2: I think that's something that a lot of people can 257 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 2: relate to for different reasons in their lives. 258 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 3: Right Like when we know. 259 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 2: That something might not be the best for us, but 260 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 2: we're not ready to let it go yet, we just 261 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 2: stop filling in all the blanks. For you at that time, 262 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 2: was there anyone that you talked to about your relationship 263 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 2: or was that all just deep inside. 264 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: My best friend, you know, my best friend, and it 265 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: wasn't the best I just hit it. I remember showing 266 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,479 Speaker 1: a picture to my mother and my mother did not 267 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: like this guy. So I hit everything. You know, my 268 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 1: family was very orthodox. You have to do these things, 269 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: and this is how you're gonna graduate from high school, 270 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: then graduate from college, then find a nice man you're 271 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 1: gonna marry, and just buy the book. And I've never 272 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: been this type of person. I've never been traditional from 273 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: a very beginning. My mom describes me at someone very 274 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: not traditional. And I was hiding all these things because 275 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: it wasn't what my parents wanted for me. So my imagine, 276 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: seventeen years old, a kid, you're out, you make this 277 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: decision that is not what your parents want, and you say, 278 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: uh uh, I'm gonna show you guys just stubborn. And 279 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: I hid everything from my parents. I was so stubborn 280 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: and proud, and it was just I spiraled yea out 281 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: of control with everything. 282 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 2: No wonder why when you were in that room all 283 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 2: of the time and you were just feeling so overwhelmed 284 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 2: because it wasn't even like you had in your mind 285 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,479 Speaker 2: let your family down, but you hadn't even had a 286 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 2: legitimate conversation with yourself about what it was that you wanted. 287 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 2: You were just so beside yourself about this idea that 288 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 2: you weren't living out or doing what. 289 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 3: They made you feel like you were supposed to do. 290 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that transition, like from this seventeen to twenty two, 291 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: I know what it is to live in one bedroom 292 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: apartment with three roommates, eat couple of noodle soups. I 293 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: was so proud. I would not contact my parents for 294 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: absolutely anything. Anything. I said, I'm going to do this myself, 295 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 1: and I'm just I was so proud. There was one 296 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: book that I purchased for a breakup, How to Heal 297 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: a Breakup? I remember, and I felt so lost. And 298 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 1: one of the exercises that the book had at that 299 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: time was that I needed to get rid of all 300 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 1: the toxic things in my life. That's when I made 301 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: a transition of Okay, I have to let this go. 302 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: All toxic things, alcohol, cigarettes, weed, all of it, the clubbing, everything. 303 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: I removed people that didn't need to belong in my life. 304 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: That made that encouraged me to do these things. I 305 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: removed absolutely everything that I thought was anchoring me, anchoring 306 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 1: me in sadness, anchoring me in bad habits, anchoring me 307 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: in bad choices. And one of the healthiest choices was exercise. 308 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: And it actually mentioned it in the book. I was 309 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: not going outside. I was not even taken in sun. 310 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: And I remember with my best friend and we signed 311 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: up for the gym. And mind you, I'm one hundred 312 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: and ten pounds. I can't even do a push up. 313 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: I'm just so little. And there was one thing that 314 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: carried everything up to this point. I wanted to feel strong, 315 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: and for me, it wasn't even about physic my physical strength, 316 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 1: because I was so weak. I was so weak. A 317 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: lot of people don't know I have exercise in those asthma. 318 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: I'm allergic to the world. I have so many allergies 319 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: I have. I said, Oh my god, I reflecting on it, 320 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: I can't believe that I was just in this toxic relationship. 321 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: How How did I bring so much toxicity in my life? 322 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: I know better. I felt like an impostor. I felt 323 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 1: like I was not living to the full, my fullest potential. 324 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: And when it came to exercise, a lot of people 325 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: don't relate exercise to actually life. I was the girl 326 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: who couldn't and I was a cardio buddy at that 327 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: time because I didn't know how to do anything. And 328 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: in the transition the last couple of months that I 329 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 1: was with my dad in that room, I started educating 330 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: myself because I had to do something. At some point. 331 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: I had to do something. At some point, I said, 332 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: if I continue this way, I don't think I am 333 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: going to be here. Because I had suicidal thoughts. I 334 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: was literally destroying myself from the inside out. So I 335 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: started moving and it was the elliptical. My friend and 336 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: I would go to the elliptical. She's a little bit 337 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: more to love than I am, and that I was 338 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 1: at that time, and we were just like, do the 339 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: elliptical here and there. I was going out more. I 340 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: was feeling a lot better. Right after being on the elliptical. 341 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: I would feel better. I would come home. I started 342 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: to get a little bit more hungry. But then I said, 343 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: wait a second, I'm just wasting away. I went all 344 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: the way down to like one hundred and eight pounds, 345 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: So how did I make a transition to even heavier lifts. 346 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: I started going to the library, and to avoid my 347 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: father from coming home to catch me in the middle 348 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: of the afternoon when I was telling him, oh, no, 349 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: I'm still going to school, but I'm not. I would 350 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: go to the library and I would get all these 351 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: books I remember, like all the Ace books, the Nasam books, 352 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: and I would read and I remember I opened up 353 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: Instagram on twenty eleven. I opened up Instagram and it 354 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: was just a outlet for me to meet new people. 355 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: And in this book, not only did I get rid 356 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: of all the toxic things, but I started making new relationships, 357 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: started making new relationships in the gym because we were regular, 358 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: started making new relationships in this app that at that 359 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: time was a filter app, and then people would interact 360 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: with you. And I remember when I first started my journey, 361 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: I couldn't even do a push up nothing. I just 362 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: wanted to feel super strong. So I started educating myself 363 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: and I started using Instagram to share, just share what 364 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: I was doing. And I remember one photo went viral 365 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 1: in the middle of me just being depressed, me trying 366 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: to figure out. One picture went viral. I get eleven 367 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: thousand followers out of nowhere. I said, why, just my stomach, 368 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: like I'm not even healthy, and I would talk about 369 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: these things. At that time, it was men go beeca. 370 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 1: I would talk about these things, I'm not healthy, and 371 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: I literally started sharing my journey and people saw someone 372 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,959 Speaker 1: from zero turning to the person that I am today. 373 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: And there is a huge connection to me between the 374 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: strength that I feel in the gym and with doing 375 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: all the things that I thought I would I was 376 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 1: never going to accomplish it. I related to my mindset. 377 00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 1: It taught me how to be regimented, how to be 378 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 1: hopeful that, hey, I may not be able to do 379 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: this right now, but in a week or two or 380 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: three or four, I accomplish. I accomplished absolutely everything that 381 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: I wanted to accomplish. And at that time, bodybuilding dot 382 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: Com had Jamie Easen and she had a twelve week 383 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: program out there that I did and I tried to 384 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: emulate it as much as possible as I could, the 385 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: best that I could. And I couldn't do any of 386 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: the things that she had put besides like maybe a 387 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: five pound dumbbells, couldn't do the pushups, couldn't even understand anything. 388 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: And that was the transition to oh my god, this 389 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: is making me feel good. Oh my god, I can 390 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 1: put all my energy into something that is making me 391 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: feel accomplished. Then I started to get popularity. I meet 392 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: some people on social media, and then I started seeing 393 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: this industry of like people that compete and they manipulate 394 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,239 Speaker 1: their bodies. Oh my god, bodybuilding. I competed in all 395 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: these fitness competitions for a year and a half and 396 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: it was the most unhealthy industry you can think of. 397 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 1: It created a lot of issues like body even more 398 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: body dys morphia, because when you're getting on stage, someone 399 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: is telling you my twenty four inch waist. At that time, 400 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 1: in mind you I have very narrow hips, very very 401 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 1: narrow hips, and someone is telling me getting a corsette 402 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: make your way smaller so that you have the appearance 403 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: of making your hips larger. This is as I started 404 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 1: to learn about nutrition. I'm looking at my plan and 405 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: I said, how is this possible? This doesn't make any sense. 406 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: Where are all my vitamins and my nutrients and my micronutrients, 407 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: Like this doesn't make sense. I saw a lot of 408 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: girls who would prepare themselves for these competitions, not even 409 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: having the right amount of time to building of muscle, 410 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: doing trash diets, doing just the most unhealthy things, developing 411 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: bulimia and orexia, body dys morphia, all kinds, all kinds 412 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: of conditions that are within the bodydys morphia disorder. So 413 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: I said, I need to create a plan that made sense. 414 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: How can someone accomplish their goals and still maintain a 415 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: healthy relationship with food. So I went from the bodybuilding 416 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: training competition side into health and wellness and I made 417 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: that transition and it's been amazing. I haven't stopped. Like 418 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: I said, I am never going to stop doing what 419 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: I'm doing because my story and my journey and even 420 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 1: the creation of my businesses have helped thousands and thousands 421 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: and thousands and thousands. 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Shout out first and foremost to your 465 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 2: good friend who listened to you when you were going 466 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 2: through those hard times, and then the woman that showed 467 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 2: up with you to go to the elliptical to help 468 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 2: you get out of your own way to like embrace fitness. 469 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 2: I think everyone needs a friend like that, and I 470 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 2: often think that it's hard, especially I mean you guys 471 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 2: when you were younger, but especially when you get older 472 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 2: to find those friends that are like non judgmental and 473 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 2: you can just be completely yourself with That's just so 474 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 2: so important. And then to follow that up the concept 475 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 2: that you started to work out and you started with 476 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 2: the elliptical, and the elliptical became your gateway to doing 477 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 2: so much more. I think many struggle with this idea 478 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 2: that sometimes, yes, the first step is the hardest, but 479 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 2: you're not going to be able to do the bench press, 480 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 2: do the push up, do the heavy squat, run a marathon, 481 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 2: all of these things from moment one and so for you, 482 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 2: and I'm sure I know because I follow you on Instagram. 483 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 2: You've talked about this before. Just the power of that 484 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 2: first step, the power of that self belief, the power 485 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 2: that if you truly believe that you can do something, 486 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 2: then you are the person that's got to light that. 487 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 2: You are the person that's got to go after it. 488 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: Oh. Yes, most people think that I have been an 489 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: athlete since high school and they have no idea. I 490 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: don't want people to consume my fitness as entertainment, you 491 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I'm going to give you 492 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: the real of things. I Am not going to be 493 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: doing things that potentially can send the wrong message, even 494 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: though you can send the wrong message unintentionally, you know. 495 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: So for me, when I speak to a beginner, I 496 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: fell in love with how I felt. It's hard, especially 497 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: when you're starting and you don't know where to even begin. 498 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: It is probably one of the hardest things that you 499 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: are going to do. But because it's one of the 500 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,959 Speaker 1: hardest things changing your lifestyle, it's going to be one 501 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: of the hardest things that you ever do. It's going 502 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: to teach you how to be reskill and how to 503 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: be relentless if there's consistency in it. And when you 504 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: fall in love with the feeling, think about how you're feeling. 505 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: And to me, it was the after because in the beginning, 506 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: oh my. 507 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 3: God, did not feel good. 508 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: The alarm reaction that your body has in the soreness, 509 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: and you're just like, what this is going to be 510 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: my life for the you know, for the rest of 511 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: my life. I have to learn a lot because I 512 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: went from like zero to like hero without knowing, without 513 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: knowing much, and until I got all my certifications, until 514 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: I got the education, until the years of experience and learning, 515 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: even learning different philosophies from different mentors that I've had 516 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: work at this point, so thankfully, I've even on the business. 517 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: We've removed that, Hey, you're gonna start from a from 518 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: zero and here's what I'm going to give you. No, 519 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: We've developed promming that is sustainable, and that is the 520 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: whole brand. It's always been about mental health, about performance, 521 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: and the body follows. It's always been about making the 522 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: healthy choices first so that you can start feeling better. 523 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: And then we get a little bit more technical, okay, 524 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, for me, fitness 525 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: is more than just the aesthetics. The body is there 526 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: because of all the things that I do and the 527 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: consistency that I have. But the foundation of all the 528 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: things that I do come from the standpoint that I am. 529 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: This is my healthy outlet to cope with anxiety, with sadness, 530 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: with fear, with everything. This is my outlet. If you 531 00:33:53,040 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: cannot relate exercise and living this lifestyle as a this 532 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: is the game of life. Then you're going to have 533 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: a hard time getting into it. 534 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 2: I'm curious you went from being very closed off and 535 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 2: being open about what was going on with your life, 536 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:17,479 Speaker 2: only sharing some details with few individuals. Did you go 537 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,399 Speaker 2: through a period where it was quite difficult for you 538 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 2: to be actually transparent about what you were going through, 539 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 2: even in terms of your fitness journey, because you were 540 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 2: used to being so closed off. Did you feel just 541 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 2: so vulnerable when you started to share with more and 542 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 2: more people on that Instagram following really took off. 543 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: I feel vulnerable with my family, with the people that 544 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: were close to me, not vulnerable with the strangers. But 545 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: now have become sort of like my tribe, right, and 546 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 1: I understood that my story. The amount of emails, Oh 547 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: my god, the amount of At some point, I used 548 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: to get so many letters of emails and people that 549 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: would stop me in the street, like you have no 550 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: idea how you've changed my life, And still it was incredible. 551 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: So it's so funny because my family started to learn 552 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: about all these things, especially my mom when I started 553 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: to share my journey, she didn't know really what I 554 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: was going through, and a lot of my family found out, like, 555 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: oh my god, Massie was dealing with this and oh 556 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: my god, Mossie was this yes, and they found out 557 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 1: through social media. 558 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 2: Do you remember that first conversation you had with your 559 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 2: mom to actually address some of the things that had happened. 560 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: She was so upset. She was so upset because she 561 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: blames herself. Oh, I wasn't like she wasn't there for me. 562 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: And it wasn't that I didn't want her to be 563 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: there for me. It was like, I have so much 564 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: respect for this woman who raised me. If I could 565 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: be fifty percent of who my mother is, oh my god, 566 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: I've accomplished a lot. She's amazing and it was my 567 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: decision and she took it very personal. Our relationship is 568 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 1: completely different now, it's she's my best friend. My family 569 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 1: completely changed and we're open now. We're all the transition 570 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: from what happened to my brother. It's made my family 571 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: a lot more different, a lot healthier. 572 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,760 Speaker 3: Did he pass away, No, he's alive. 573 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 1: My brother is a miracle. And I remember when we 574 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: got the diagnosis that he was cancer free because he 575 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: and let me read, let me use that word again 576 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 1: about terminal stage four, stage four cancer and when he 577 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 1: got better. This is going to sound crazy, but I 578 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 1: remember my brother waking up one day and saying that 579 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: he didn't want any treatment, that he felt this warm 580 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 1: feeling in his stomach and that God had cured him, 581 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: and that he didn't want any anything. He didn't want period. 582 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 3: And when. 583 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: When the doctors did cat scans, they realized that the 584 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: tumors that were at some point the size of a baseball, 585 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: and they were shrinking with the treatment because he got radiation. 586 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 1: He had multiple treatments for his cancer with chemo, and 587 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: chemo is pretty much poisoned in your body. So when 588 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,760 Speaker 1: they did a cat scan, they realized, oh my god, 589 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: these tumors that were the size of a golf ball, 590 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: it's just the scars. So to me, my brother is 591 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: a miracle, and to me it brought a lot of hope. 592 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 1: So my family completed letely changed. The whole family completely 593 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 1: changed because this, to us was a miracle. 594 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 2: I know something else that for sure has changed you forever, 595 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 2: the birth of your daughter. When you were pregnant with 596 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,720 Speaker 2: your daughter, talk about photos that went viral. 597 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 3: Obviously, I don't need to tell you twice. 598 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:22,280 Speaker 2: You still having you know, visible abs while being pregnant. 599 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 2: I'm sure the feedback that you got at that time, 600 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:31,800 Speaker 2: so much of it unsolicited, couldn't have been easy to navigate. 601 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 1: You know, my pregnancy was very controversial in a sense that, 602 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 1: let me be straight with you, humans, modern humans, we're 603 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 1: not supposed to be sitting We're not supposed to be 604 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 1: driving for hours and cars. We're not supposed to be 605 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: sitting in front of computers. We are persistent hunters. So 606 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 1: when the hunter gatherer days you had pregnant women, it 607 00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 1: doesn't matter even if they just gave birth and they 608 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 1: had to migrate every single day five to six miles. 609 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: Men used to travel eleven twelve miles to hunt. So 610 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 1: we're creatures that are made to move. And when I 611 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 1: got pregnant, I remember I found out that I was 612 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 1: pregnant once I pretty much collapsed on a tough mutter. 613 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,319 Speaker 1: Right at the end, I said, oh my god, this 614 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 1: doesn't feel like Massie, what is happening. Turns out the 615 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,240 Speaker 1: next day I took a pregnancy test because my period 616 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 1: was late, and boom, I'm pregnant. So my pregnancy. I 617 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: never every single post that I make, it's never too 618 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,320 Speaker 1: with the intention of making people feel that I'm better 619 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 1: than them, or that I'm doing things right. I do 620 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 1: things my way, and I was at the top of 621 00:39:54,719 --> 00:40:01,839 Speaker 1: my fitness. I couldn't be any healthier, any more powerful 622 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: when I got pregnant with Indie. So I just carried 623 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 1: that through my entire pregnancy. I never stopped moving on 624 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 1: days that I would feel bad, nauseous, whatever, I know 625 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 1: what made me feel good and that was movement. So 626 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,280 Speaker 1: I would force myself to get in a little elliptical 627 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 1: work to feel great. And I never stopped. I never 628 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 1: stopped my routines and I consulted with my midwife. Everything 629 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 1: was just going normal. I never experienced any symptoms that 630 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:42,399 Speaker 1: are associated with having high inflammation, having unhealthy foods, no 631 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:50,399 Speaker 1: dys minorehea, no hemorrhoids, no bleeding gums. I had literally 632 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 1: a healthy pregnancy with known of the known pregnancy symptoms 633 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: that people have. I educated myself a lot. I am someone. 634 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I can turn this computer around and you 635 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,280 Speaker 1: see all these books. So not only did I educate 636 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 1: myself month to month because I wanted to have a 637 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 1: really healthy pregnancy and if I actually was the healthiest 638 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 1: when I was with in me because everything that I 639 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,439 Speaker 1: would eat, I knew that it would affect her right. 640 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 1: So I had a very controversial pregnancy. Some days where 641 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 1: really just frustrating because people are just very judgmental, and 642 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 1: when you're opening yourself to a global audience, you're going 643 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,359 Speaker 1: to be opening yourself to a lot of opinions by 644 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 1: people that don't know the actual situation that you're living in. 645 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:48,879 Speaker 1: So it was pretty I just posted my pictures saying, yes, 646 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 1: I still have a six I still had a six pack. 647 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,280 Speaker 1: I was like six almost six months, and you still 648 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: see a two pack. I popped I think a week 649 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 1: before seven months. And that was a lot of controversy. 650 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 1: But it shouldn't be because when you or I guess 651 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 1: it should be because it's not the norm, you know. 652 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,280 Speaker 1: But he taught a lot of people, Ay, you can 653 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 1: you can actually have a really healthy pregnancy and you 654 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 1: can still continue if you had already a certain activity 655 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 1: level or a certain performance peak, you can still continue. 656 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 1: Once she was born and she was healthy, and the 657 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 1: way that I transitioned that postpartum process, it was really hard. 658 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 1: I think people saw, Okay, she's not bragging about a 659 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 1: six pack. She actually, you know, did the things that 660 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 1: she needed to do based on her condition at that time. 661 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 1: The fact that she was healthy and didn't have any issues, 662 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: and people respected that once she was born. 663 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 2: How do you brush off the negative when it was 664 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 2: just like ever present during like months, five months, six 665 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 2: month seven of your pregnancy. 666 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 1: I realized there's a book that I love that I 667 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,880 Speaker 1: would recommend anyone to read. And the book is by 668 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:26,240 Speaker 1: David Foster Wallace. This is water. I understand that people 669 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:33,320 Speaker 1: may have different opinions different experiences, have had different experiences, 670 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 1: and when you're open to a global audience, You're just 671 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 1: going to have opinions. And I've come to terms with that, 672 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 1: and I don't let it impact me in a negative 673 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,279 Speaker 1: way because I know who I am and I know 674 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 1: my intentions, and someone who doesn't know me is just 675 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 1: portraying their own insecurities onto me. I understood that from 676 00:43:56,120 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 1: a very long time that people actually showcase their insecurities 677 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 1: onto others, and doesn't face me. 678 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 2: Love that feedback. Okay, so in your life right now, 679 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 2: what excites you. 680 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 1: Seeing my daughter grow? It excites me because I can 681 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 1: I'm literally shaping a meaning me, just like my mom 682 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:27,879 Speaker 1: shaped a meaning her. You know what excites me is 683 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 1: all of the all of the attention that this pandemic 684 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 1: has brought to health and wellness. That excites me because 685 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,359 Speaker 1: I feel like consumers are going to get a lot 686 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:51,879 Speaker 1: more educated educated. What excites me expanding my business. One 687 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,759 Speaker 1: of the things that I've wanted to do for a 688 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 1: very long time, and now I'm at a point where 689 00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 1: I can do that, has been making my fitness accessible 690 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:05,719 Speaker 1: to everyone and creating I'm in the process of creating 691 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:10,279 Speaker 1: or getting to the finish line a app and a 692 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 1: web app, and I know that there's a million in 693 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 1: one apps out there, but this is something that I've 694 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 1: been working very hard on and it's going to offer 695 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:28,359 Speaker 1: people education and the right tools from actual professionals. One 696 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:33,319 Speaker 1: of the questions that I had here on this as 697 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:39,480 Speaker 1: preparation was what's the one advice that was given to 698 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 1: you the best advice I was given to you personally 699 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 1: or professionally, And one of them is when you know better, 700 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:52,720 Speaker 1: do better. So I know that I can my forte 701 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,239 Speaker 1: is what I do. But there's so many different aspects 702 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 1: of health and wellness that I'm not an expert in. 703 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:04,439 Speaker 1: So when you think about health and wellness in the 704 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:11,239 Speaker 1: medical field or just the health industry, I can tell 705 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 1: you that based on the access that I have because 706 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 1: my money goes into my body. I much rather go 707 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,359 Speaker 1: to the best specialist and energy so that I can 708 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 1: have good energy levels. Being that I do so much 709 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,480 Speaker 1: and I have to come home to a full toddler 710 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 1: who needs my energy, I much rather spend my money 711 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 1: working with an energy doctor instead of buying me a 712 00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,440 Speaker 1: five thousand dollars bag. So it's always been me and 713 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:42,920 Speaker 1: I know that this type of holistic health is very 714 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 1: expensive for a lot of people. So we've been in 715 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,880 Speaker 1: development for a year and a half now of this 716 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 1: platform that is going to offer not only just workouts 717 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,359 Speaker 1: and healthy eating, it's going to offer professionals that are 718 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 1: that are helping those who cannot afford a holistic doctor 719 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 1: or who don't even know where to get the write 720 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:16,440 Speaker 1: information because now you know information is you have to 721 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 1: fact check everything right. And there's a lot of miscommunication 722 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 1: and not miscommunications, miseducation in the health and wellness space. 723 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 3: That's exciting. That's a big deal. On a year and 724 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:27,920 Speaker 3: a half, it's a long time coming. 725 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a lot of moving pieces. And like 726 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,920 Speaker 1: I shared with you, I say, single mom, there's a 727 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,880 Speaker 1: lot of people that don't know how many hats I 728 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:41,800 Speaker 1: have to put on, and it's been This is probably 729 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 1: one of my proudest moments, besides having Indie, being able 730 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 1: to do this with my child, being a single mom, 731 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,960 Speaker 1: and just being a boss. 732 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 2: I love these vibes. Okay, I'm winding you down here 733 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:02,239 Speaker 2: right now. As a boss, you have an opportunity to 734 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:06,719 Speaker 2: offer yourself a piece of advice looking back on those 735 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,880 Speaker 2: darker years, those years where you're staying in one room 736 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 2: all day, struggling through that depression. You have an opportunity 737 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,799 Speaker 2: right now to offer her a piece of advice. What 738 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 2: do you tell her? 739 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:26,439 Speaker 1: We never lose, either we win or we learn. That 740 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:34,239 Speaker 1: has been one quote that I've used for so many years. 741 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 1: I don't I don't feel fear anymore. You can tell 742 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:47,239 Speaker 1: me MASSI we want to go to the moon, and 743 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,480 Speaker 1: I would say, well, let's get to work. Let's work 744 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 1: on a sustainable plan to get to the moon and 745 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 1: how we're going to get there. I've never let fear, 746 00:48:56,080 --> 00:49:00,759 Speaker 1: well now, transition, I don't let fear stop me from 747 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,279 Speaker 1: doing anything that I want. And it's always been that's 748 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:07,120 Speaker 1: how I build pretty much my brand. I have no fear. 749 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,439 Speaker 1: I know what it is to feel like you don't 750 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 1: want to live. Therefore, nothing else brings me fear. I've 751 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:19,440 Speaker 1: already reached a point where if I don't do something different, 752 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:24,520 Speaker 1: I will not be here today. Therefore, anything that I 753 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:28,920 Speaker 1: have ahead of me is it's nothing. I know that 754 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,759 Speaker 1: I can accomplish it little by little, even if it 755 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,640 Speaker 1: takes me my whole life getting it done. At least 756 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,640 Speaker 1: I'm doing I'm living my life with purpose. You never lose, 757 00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,239 Speaker 1: either you win or you learn. 758 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,160 Speaker 2: Lassie, thank you so much, so much, so much for 759 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,840 Speaker 2: your time today. What an incredible story. How do the 760 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,600 Speaker 2: hurdlers keep up with you? How do they follow along 761 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,480 Speaker 2: with you? Give me all of your details. 762 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 1: Well, I'm on every social media platform Instagram as masiariusmes 763 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:05,440 Speaker 1: why i aias launching soon my app. You're going to 764 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,399 Speaker 1: see everything on the website massiires dot com. You can 765 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,320 Speaker 1: follow me on YouTube. There's a lot of amazing content. 766 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:16,200 Speaker 1: You can follow me anywhere, like literally everywhere, and there's 767 00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,840 Speaker 1: a lot of things that we're preparing and coming to 768 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 1: the future. So thank you so much for your time. 769 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,800 Speaker 1: And I just want to end this by telling whoever 770 00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,439 Speaker 1: is listening that if you are in any situation, where 771 00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,839 Speaker 1: you think that your environment and you cannot get out 772 00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:34,320 Speaker 1: of your environment. You can get out of your environment. 773 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:41,040 Speaker 1: Assess what is anchoring you. Assess the toxic people and 774 00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:46,799 Speaker 1: the toxic behaviors and the toxic choices, and you have 775 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:51,680 Speaker 1: the ability to turn that around. And don't let your 776 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:57,160 Speaker 1: goals or that one dream you have detear you from 777 00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:01,840 Speaker 1: accomplish it because it looks so big, so far from you. 778 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,520 Speaker 1: Life is not a race. Life is a marathon, and 779 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,680 Speaker 1: you tackle it every single day, one step at a time. 780 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:13,719 Speaker 2: I'm so grateful for your energy and your vibe. I'm 781 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:18,280 Speaker 2: over at Emilia Body and at Hurdle Podcast. Another Hurdle conquered. 782 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:19,680 Speaker 2: Catch you guys next time.