1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: At least. He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: Williamson on your home of the Black and Gold Steelers 3 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: Nation Radio. Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolly with Matt Williams 4 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: that we are alive from Steelers training camp here at St. 5 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: Vincent College and the Stealers getting ready here to run 6 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: what I believe will be the final period here of 7 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: team competition here and I get a first and ten here. 8 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: So how about this though? We got Pickens Deonte Claypool, 9 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: Friar Muth and Nausey Harris the field to get with 10 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: Mitch Drobiskie in number one on boom hits, Friar mu 11 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: over the middle. Well done. I can't remember hurry up 12 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: here this hurry up yeah. I can't remember many reps 13 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: when you had those five on the field altogether, and 14 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: it's exciting to see its first down there. Whoop? That 15 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,839 Speaker 1: did jump starter. I don't know if a false start 16 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: or I think so. I'm not sure if I was 17 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: on O or D, but it was Dan Moore jr. Uh. 18 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: It looks like they are in another dime a little 19 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,639 Speaker 1: dime here too. That was on the offense, Little dime, 20 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: dime dime dime excites me. That's a nice strow right 21 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: down to two in a row, right to firemouth in 22 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: the middle of the field. How many of those happened 23 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: last year? Not many, especially hitting him on the run, 24 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: lighting him on the run fifteen yards down field, two 25 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: plays in a row. That the thirty eight given. It 26 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: took a shot on the outside there. One on one 27 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: pickings not the best round ball, to be honest with 28 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: you now, trying to lead him a little bit. That 29 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: looks like a predetermined read. So I was getting one 30 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: on one and it wasn't a great throw. Probably you 31 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: put a little more air under it. Fourteen, Go be big. 32 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: He was kind of kicking himself. Fourteen, go be big, 33 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: Go be big, and go be the best guy out 34 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: there and pluck it over his head. Yeah. I do 35 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: like seeing with used back to back plays that loved him. 36 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: He's now out and Hayward's in. Okay, Hayward plays a lot. 37 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: Get the Harris split all the way down here at 38 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: the bottom with Deante Johnson to the inside. I don't 39 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: know if anyone on this team has more catches in 40 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: practices at Latrobe than Hayward. It's been pretty It came 41 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: out of his brakes, and uh, you wonder so hard. 42 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: I mean, not knowing the calls and the all the adjustments. 43 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: If that's on the rookie or yeah, it was Hayward 44 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: supposed to sit that one down because he he threw 45 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: it as if he was just gonna sit down. Boom 46 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: him and the numbers. But hey, we're broken outside and 47 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: I'm I've heard some things about that in the game too, 48 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: where there was that near interception that looked like a 49 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: terrible decision, but we don't quite know. I mean, did 50 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: the the youngster not realize it was zone when it 51 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: was man or you know, vice versa. The deep ball 52 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: there overthrew them again, you had a one on one 53 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: that was gunner versus the corner there twenty something might 54 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: have been so witherspoon. Yeah, we got a fourth down here, 55 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: there we go. So let's run us through here. It says, 56 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: uh Rabisky has him in the in the huddle. Here 57 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: we got a lot of offensive substitutions. You've got a 58 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: lot of different guys, and now we get a bunch 59 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: of moves back in, a bunch of different guys on defense. 60 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: And this is the one Zoe. You got the same 61 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: five that I mentioned that you had played the most 62 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: snaps ten Yeah, eleven personnel looking looking Friarmouth. Okay, you're 63 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: gonna get that. I think you would have got that. 64 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: He caught that about two or three yards short of 65 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 1: the sticks, but which there was nobody around him. He 66 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: was super quick to turn up field. There's no one 67 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: around him. Trubisky put it on his his upfield shoulder 68 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: to give him a little bit of a head start there. 69 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: Then they clock it. Uh, we don't have the we 70 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: can't see. We can't see what the clock shows here, 71 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: but they can't. They can't done too much time. But 72 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: obviously they're unning a two minute drill. Yeah, they're down 73 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: to the twenty three here now, so yes, second and 74 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how much times on the clock or 75 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: the score. They need to feel good, they need a touchdown. 76 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: It's one thing we missed being up here. Whisky breaks 77 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: the huddle. Here, we get Johnson and Clay pulled down 78 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: here to our left, get pickings up top on the right, 79 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: just outside of Friarmouth, Naji Harrison the backfield next to 80 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: uh Trubisky. Here, that's a awfully daunting group there. Oh 81 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: it is. That's off running by himself there, nobody around him. There, 82 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: He gets uh three yards, gets out about about twelve yards. 83 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: Nice one thing I've noticed in at least in this drill, 84 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: saying he's the same his third none. So we got 85 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: eight yards there and they're moving to they're moving to 86 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: moving to markers here, So okay, I thought he got 87 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: to there wasn't a marker on that sideline too. Got 88 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 1: t get a cheap ten there. That's such a nice advantage. 89 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: Like the sees parts, he runs straight for the sidelines 90 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: on the kind of an angle, knows he's not gonna 91 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: get touched. Head Harris out there with him. Yeah. Right, 92 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: And then one thing I was about to say was 93 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: I haven't seen any where they're they're getting five men 94 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: in the route. Yeah, Nausey might hesitate for a second, 95 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: but they're getting five guys in the route, and those 96 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: five are hard to cover. Even on that last one 97 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: the farm with Catcher, he you know, he chipped first 98 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: and then leaked out and it was all by himself. 99 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: That one was kind of the opposite where they're keeping 100 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: Nausey in for a second. But I was on purpose 101 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: because they were running the screen. They just read it 102 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: didn't bite on that at all. Yeah, so, uh, but 103 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: still it didn't eat much clock. I mean he threw 104 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: it his feet on purpose clocked it basically. Yeah. So, 105 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: but now the second second tenure on the fourteen thirteen 106 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: looks like you get the thirteen going in, so breaking 107 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: the huddle here again times on the clock. We got 108 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: trip receivers down here to the right. You get there, 109 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: you got uh Johnson pickings and claypool order from the 110 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: outside in motions. We have firm with up top by himself. Okay, 111 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 1: he was in line that was actually actually eighty three 112 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: there and he hit him on the cross where he 113 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: gets about three yards there. I assume that was the 114 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: first read because those three receivers you mentioned the last 115 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: the wid side of the field all ran verticals. Yeah, 116 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: and then he just kind of ran underneath it all. 117 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: So we got third down here, now third and about 118 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: eight and open jump all nice job corner defense, nice 119 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: job by the corner there, go up and get it 120 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: and swap that thing away. Who is it down there? 121 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: Is that twenty nine? That? Yeah? So Witherspoon breaks that 122 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: jump all up against pickings. Yeah, it's some some serious 123 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: height and length there. We're well done. That's what it's 124 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: interesting Hayward play in these situations. Uh. I mean, it's 125 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: not like he's playing over Friarmouth, but he's playing well. 126 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: I think in that situation, you want to get a 127 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: guy who was a former running back the ball in 128 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: space to allow him to run after the catch, right, 129 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: But he's gonna play snaps. I keep talking about him. 130 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: All right. So here's the fourth down play here, and 131 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: you got your best five on the field here. Yeah. 132 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: I mean it's a tough five to match up again, 133 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: it really is. And the guys behind him aren't bad, right, 134 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: all right? Pick it takes a shotgun, snap drops back, 135 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: looking to his left. Did Deonte Johnson did he catch that? 136 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: I thought he did, but may I don't think he 137 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: hold it in. That might have been past interference on that. 138 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: They kept They kept Harrison the block and he looks 139 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: like he's mixing it up a little something there, some words, 140 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: some heated words in the amongst the big guys. But 141 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: it looks like all's well there. I thought Deante had 142 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: a one handed cradle would into his body catch there. 143 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: It looks like the corner might have gotten there. It 144 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: might have got but incomplete that was on series O 145 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: all and on Yeah, Now who do we got here? 146 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: So it looks like this one is going to be 147 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: pick It running this one. Okay, So the number situations 148 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: starting here at the thirty seven yard line, so first 149 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: and ten. This looks like a lot of starters on defense, 150 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: so some there's some out there, Yeah, some out there, 151 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: some backups as well. And they just took Bush off 152 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: the field. Yes, plane is in there now, inside backer, 153 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 1: good pass rush off the edge? It was who was 154 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: that left outside linebacker that has down here beside the 155 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: behind the drill was fifty Yeah, they got to get 156 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: a good get off. That's a completion of about seven 157 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: yards there too. I we got Warren running with the two's. 158 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: I mean they gets pretty clearly his job. I mean that. 159 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 1: I guess McFarland could get involved in this taking de 160 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: Lante Scott out there. Um, something something bugging them on 161 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: that one. Yeah, he gets a little shaken up there. 162 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: I think he collided with somebody after on his pass 163 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: rush there after the ball was thrown, so he is 164 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: out to Pickett, has it? We had a second and 165 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: three here and to break the huddle here, Hey get 166 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: left tackle there? Yeah, I noticed that too. Yeah, right, 167 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: tack wars and inside hand off to Jaylen Warren and 168 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: he he picks up the first down. It must be 169 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: a fair amount of time on the clock here, but 170 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: we got we're gonna give him sims gunning as we 171 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: give him five on that way, and boy can it 172 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: looks like pick a drop back to past looking looking 173 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 1: gunshofsky again down to the third. Yeah, drove up the field, 174 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 1: sit down, balls on him immediately, good read by Pick. 175 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: It got that quick, alright, he taken it, gets him 176 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:02,719 Speaker 1: up there quickly takes a snap pressure up up up. 177 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: That's yeah, nice play there by there. It's thirty five, 178 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: well done, Pick. I tried to drive it in there 179 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: and just and if you see that, we saw that 180 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: three times, say where the defensive back was able to 181 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: get underneath of the receiver on some of those in 182 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: cutting routes, and that one he was able to hold onto. 183 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: Let's stock has gone up to me, I thought dramatically 184 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: in the last one play where he that he didn't 185 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: make down way down the field down by the gold line. 186 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: But his run defense a run. He's tough. I mean 187 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: their version and I think Hilton's the guy one thinks 188 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: of of a smaller, undersized slot that might not have 189 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: the best forty time or the best height and weight 190 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: in the world. But they're bulldogs. They tackle, they throw 191 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: their body around, they have some short area quickness, they're 192 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: really physical. They're blitzers. Molet's the new version. And I 193 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: don't know how many snaps will get out of the 194 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: slot because it gets a lot of options there. But 195 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: he's a pure slot that does exactly what I said, 196 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 1: And again I every time I watched him in this 197 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: camp in general, he's been very impressive. You know, even 198 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: that drill we saw on Thursday where there it was 199 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: from numbers the sideline and you said they you know 200 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: they did it at the indoor two or I wasn't 201 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: at and you're one on one with a back that 202 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: he gets him on the ground. Tough, tough little guy 203 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: and and UH said little. I mean he's hunter pounds 204 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: for a little for this game, right right, But the 205 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: biggest guys out there just does the job. And Uh, 206 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: I've talked to him a couple of times on this camp, 207 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: really been impressed with his just as overall knowledge of 208 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: the game and understanding of what it is they're asking 209 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: him to do. And I think you're real comfortable with 210 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: him on the field. Yeah, And I don't know how 211 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 1: much will play or whatever, but he's going to be 212 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: a Steeler and he's a valuable one. Yeah, I thought, 213 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 1: I think you'll see, you know, if it's you know, 214 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: if it's third and four and you're in the nickel 215 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: or you're in a dime, he's out there because he's 216 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: actually he's an extra run defender. If it's third and twelve, 217 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: maybe not, maybe not. Yeah, I don't think you line 218 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: them up against Andrews, but you do against Boyd or 219 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: you know what I yeah, I mean, depending what team 220 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: comes down and what different slot options you're thrown at. 221 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: But he definitely has a role on this team. He 222 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: definitely a role on his team. I bet the coaches 223 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: love him. Yeah. Just a smart, bright guy. Uh yeah, 224 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: tough everything that you want your your nickel corner to be. 225 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's a tough job. That's a tough job. 226 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 1: Is that the toughest job in football in terms of 227 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: what you you're asked to do? I mean maybe physically 228 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: for the dimensions a corner is like it's really hard 229 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: to be a center or ago and they're built for 230 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 1: that job where these nickel cornerbacks are typically they're a 231 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: little undersize five ten right sometimes, and then you ask 232 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 1: him to play the run like that's in their sister. 233 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: They're seeing offensive lineman, they're seeing tight ends trying to 234 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: block them, they're seeing fullbacks trying to knock their heads off, 235 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: and they're running with tight ends and trying to match 236 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 1: up to cover those guys. Yeah right, I would say 237 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: in terms of dealing with people bigger than you and 238 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: probably more talented than you, Yeah, nickel corner's brutal. And 239 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: this is more of a bigger picture not thing. And 240 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: I'm curious. Someday there'll be a study when there's more knowledge. 241 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: But nickel corners have only really been considered a starter 242 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: now five years most most do you invest in them? 243 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: You know, like when they let Mike Hilton go? How 244 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: much long? How long can Mike Hilton play? How much? 245 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: How long can Ima let play? It's kind of like 246 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: a running back where you might just bring in a 247 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: guy on the cheap, beat the crap out of him 248 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: for four years, and then not give them money and 249 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: try to find another one because they take a beating, 250 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: you know, I mean that's a that is a real 251 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: man's job. The problem is when you find a good one, 252 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: that's the thing. You know, you do you want to 253 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: let that guy go or do you want to try 254 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: you try your hand again with you know, Arthur Molessa, 255 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:59,599 Speaker 1: that's bounced around the league a little bit. He was 256 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: with the same Aints, he was with the Jets. You know, 257 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: he's been a special teams guy and now you bring 258 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: him here. You know, he played played some nickel when 259 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,599 Speaker 1: with the Jets, Hilton was an immediate star. Yeah, I 260 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,599 Speaker 1: mean he pounced around. He was with the Jaguars, and 261 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: he was with the Patriots, and he comes here and 262 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:15,719 Speaker 1: he gets you know, finds a home and then he 263 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: gets paid. Um. You know, but do you start to 264 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: see teams And we talked about it during the draft 265 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: this past year where a lot of the cornerbacks we're 266 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: we're more nickel sized. Um. You know. Yeah, you get 267 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: the big guys and they're gonna go early, but you 268 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: don't often you don't see those you know, they never 269 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: would have been considered first for second round picks ten 270 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: years ago, twelve years ago. Now a great nickel corner 271 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: will go in the second round. Where he used to 272 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: be going fifth. You know, he was a kid from 273 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: from Washington. I was saying, went to Tennessee last year 274 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: and it was a rookie this past year, had a 275 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: good year. You know, he was a second round pick. 276 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: Really good player. Um, there's there's a lot of examples recently. 277 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: You know where you're gonna draft those guys high. They're 278 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: in demand. I just wonder if you pay them, Like 279 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: how long is there there show the shelf life? I 280 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: think it depends on the player a little bit. You know, 281 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: see a bigger body guy, you know if all you 282 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: see teams have paid some of the safeties that do that, 283 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: the Buddha bakers in the in the honey Badger and 284 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: guys like that, because that's really what they are. And 285 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: there's even like a gardener Johnson in New Orleans who 286 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: he's a bigger bodied slot you know that. I don't 287 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: know if they call almost a corner or safety. He 288 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: plays more corner, more slot than anything or you know 289 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: more in Indianapolis is considered probably the best corner slot 290 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: corner in the league. He's making good money. I just 291 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: wonder how long their their shelf life is, Yeah, because 292 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you know that that's is that why we've 293 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: now seen perhaps some of the safeties not get paid. 294 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: You know, you can't pay everybody. No, you can't pay everyone, 295 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: you know, do you do you kind of try to? Okay, well, 296 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna try to pay our safety, well like a 297 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: two million dollars a year for that for our second safety. 298 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: But because we're gonna pay six for the our nickel corner, 299 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: because you got so much, you go around, right, it's 300 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: such an important thing because everybody's got good receivers. Now, Yeah, 301 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: and there's a cover guys. I think it used to. 302 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: I don't mean it's a throwaway position by any stretch 303 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: at all. That's not what I'm implying, because I think 304 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: in the past people looked at it like it's a 305 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: throwaway position. You know, we'll find another one just like them. 306 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: I just don't know how long they last in the 307 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: league now, and I don't think we have a long 308 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: enough data to tell, you know, to do these guys 309 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: last longer than running backs or do they last as 310 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: long as corners? Dude, Corners generally have a long shelf life, 311 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: you know, outside guys, you know, but the beating that 312 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: these guys stay here, they're outside guys that don't want 313 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: to go play Nickel corner. No, a lot of them 314 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: don't and won't you know, yeah, I mean I don't 315 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: think you want to see Witherspoon there, you know. Yeah, 316 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: I mean that's a change of direction and things of 317 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: that nature. You need to have in there because you're 318 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: you're covering little guys, you're covering big guys. You gotta 319 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: play the run. You gotta be able to physical positions 320 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: and do those things that hit the quarterback and just 321 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: set the tone. And you know, right, I mean that's 322 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: not an easy job. It absolutely is not. He is uh, 323 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. We are alive Steelers 324 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: training camp here at St. Vincent College. Steelers just wrapping 325 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 1: up their practice here and you hear the fans yelling 326 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: for different guys to come over and get their autographs 327 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: and things of that nature. Matt, we'll take another guys 328 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: doing extra work though. Yeah, once again, it's been a 329 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: pretty constant at these training camp practices for sure. But 330 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: we're gonna take another break. We'll be back with more 331 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: right after this. He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and 332 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: Matt Williamson on Home of the Black and gold Steelers 333 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: Nation Radio Welcome back. I am Dale Alli. He is 334 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: Matt Williams. This is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio 335 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: and ESPN nine seven, bringing you are live coverage here 336 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: from Steelers training camp practice at St. Vincent College. Steelers 337 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 1: wrapping up their practice about five minutes ago, maybe ten, 338 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: but going through there's still a lot of guys on 339 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: the field getting some extra work in here, and we 340 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: saw every team in the league get some work in. Yeah, 341 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: last few days, Matt, and well, there's some injuries and 342 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: other infro. How do we get that. I want to 343 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: throw one thing at you. I I often referenced Brandon Thorne, 344 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: and I subscribed to his stuff, and I think he's 345 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: the best line guy out there. Well, he came up 346 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: with his forty best defensive lineman in the league and 347 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: I haven't ready yet I forward it to you, but 348 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 1: he started it with a quote from Alejandro of Illanueva, 349 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: who is still a favorite around here, of course, and 350 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 1: someone Villanueva on playing offensive tackle in the NFL. It 351 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: reminds me of jumping out of an airplanes when I 352 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 1: was in the Army. There's very little upside. The best 353 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: thing that can happen to you when when you chump 354 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 1: is to survive. Playing tackle was kind of the same way. 355 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 1: The best thing that can happen is that nothing happens 356 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: like it's almost all bad. Survive that you know, you 357 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: can have fifty five great reps right where you dominate 358 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 1: the guy cross from you, he gets a sack or 359 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: a half a sac and you had a bad game. Yeah. 360 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: I've talked about this a lot for the last couple 361 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: of hours. I'm excited to watch you all twenty two 362 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: really of the Steelers O line because I think that 363 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: when it's all said and done, more in chooks may 364 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: have had two bad reps each and if people will 365 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: remember those and you know, we saw the strip sack 366 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 1: of Rudolph and those things in there, or a big 367 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: sack late. But all in all, I think the tackles 368 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: probably held up well for ncent. The snaps you know 369 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: about the inside guys, Yeah, I mean that's just the 370 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: reality of it. Uh. The Jets uh losing Zack Wilson 371 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: Uh for two to four weeks. He is on his 372 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: way to l A to have surgery. Said bone bruise 373 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: and it's maybe a little torn meniscus in there. As well. 374 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: They avoided disaster, though that looked pretty bad when it happened. 375 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 1: Wouldn't have been disaster met because I think they would 376 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 1: have traded for Jimmy Garoppolo, like he'd already be a 377 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: member of the Jets, right. I mean Roberts Law and 378 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: their offensive coordinator, the little floor brother, they both came 379 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: over from the Niners. Have been a perfect situation. And 380 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: maybe that a been a better team, but that's not 381 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: what you want when you draft the kids second overall 382 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: the year before you know you're building around he heard 383 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: of throwing an interception too. Um, I mean there's no 384 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: sign to say he's better or worse or you know anything. 385 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: If I'm the Jets, I might explore trading for Garoppolo anyways. Yeah, 386 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: I was thinking that too. You know, it's like you 387 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: get him for really cheap. You have a good young team. 388 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: He could mentor Wilson and or fill in the meantime. 389 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: I assume Flacco's the fallback plan for now. Yeah, I 390 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 1: mean he qualifies as one of those Williamson watched them 391 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: in high school guys, and that's never good for you know, 392 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: how long you can play. Plus, he's not the mobiles 393 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: guy in around. Um it shot kind of shocks me. 394 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 1: Joe still't the league. Yeah, the Browns lost their starting 395 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: center Nick Harris a few plays into their opener. Uh, 396 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: that's a torn a. C l Um made big hopes 397 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 1: for him and that's why they moved on from Tredor 398 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: who's still out there. I'm shot Trader hasn't gotten a call. 399 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: And again, if I were the Steelers, I'd consider that 400 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 1: that is he is the world just telling us the 401 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: Treader is not able to perform right now physically? I mean, 402 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: or is he just still asking for too much money? 403 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: Maybe there's that there's that thing. Well I'm only playing 404 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: if I get four million dollars or five million dollars. Well, 405 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: we're not going to give you that, right. Yeah. I 406 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 1: mean when Jensen went down with the box, who was 407 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 1: one of the best centers in the league, I thought, 408 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: didn't where the Browns day just spend it on Uh 409 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: Julio Julio Jones like the day before, an hour before 410 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: or whatever. But the fact he didn't end up there, 411 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: hasn't yet landed back with his old team that knows 412 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: him better than anyone. Um. Again, is it on him 413 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: or is he just not passing tests because he's the 414 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: starting center all day long. And if again, if I 415 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: knew that he was healthy, I would be really interested 416 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: in him here. Uh. In Baltimore, it looks like j. K. 417 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: Dobbins is back at practice, but they're still unsure if 418 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: he'll be ready for the start of the season. Apparently 419 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: that was more than just a tourn a c L 420 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: for him last year. There was I think it was 421 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: more than that. Yeah, there was some more other additional 422 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: damage in there. So he's still not back. Uh. Jeffer 423 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: Kuda back for the Detroit Lions after tearing his achilles 424 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:12,239 Speaker 1: last season. He's rotating as the Lion's third cornerback. Not 425 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: what you want. I got another top five pick. Like 426 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: we've mentioned with Wilson that they're counting on to be 427 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: a long term guy. You wonder, you know, is he 428 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: gonna end up like uh, the Jags, dude Henderson that 429 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: they traded the Carolina for a third round pick and 430 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 1: now he's fighting for playing time. You've brought up a 431 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: lot corners, A lot of them have a better stay 432 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: with their second team than their first. Yeah, I mean 433 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 1: it's becoming a trend more and more in this league, 434 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: and who knows. I mean, could we even be in 435 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: the conversation six months from now saying Steelers are picking 436 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: twentieth overall. So there's a lot of corners. This a 437 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: good year to go all the way in on a 438 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: corner maybe, But I think a lot of those guys 439 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: get overdrafted because there's a shortage and then therefore, don't 440 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: you know, hit the ground running. Yeah, it's tough. It's 441 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: a tough position. It is because you're gonna be tested. 442 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: You're gonna be tested a lot and a lot of 443 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: times at the NFL level. Um teams are projecting what 444 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: that cornerback. Okay, we're gonna play a lot of man here. Well, 445 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: he played a lot of zone in in college and 446 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: nobody threw at him. Threw at him. They don't get tested, 447 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: They get a reputation they're the best athlete on the field. 448 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: And to your point, I think you also draft athletes there. 449 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 1: You know that you draft the six foot kid that 450 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: runs the four three and we'll teach them how to 451 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: play football, maybe till year four, until we learned how 452 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: to play football, or you know. The Steelers have had 453 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: good success grabbing corners from other teams you know, Witherspoon, 454 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: Nelson Hayden. You know, let's let someone else do the 455 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: hard work with them. Then they draft them high and 456 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: you know, grab the the athlete that has already learned 457 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: a thing or two that just maybe the way to 458 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: go at that position. I'm thinking that more and more. 459 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: By the way, did you see Already Burns list is 460 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: number one on the Seahawks death chart. So there were 461 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: many that were quick to point out, well, the Seahawks 462 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: of you know that five of their defensive starters or 463 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: even six didn't play well. Were you were the same 464 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: ones that were thrilled with Already Burns being here because 465 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: he was one of the six. He's one of the 466 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: six guys that you're counting there. Yeah, and so, I 467 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: mean I realized some of them are Jamala Anderson and 468 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 1: Quandrie Digs and Brooks their young impressive linebacker. But it's 469 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: not like that. Teams the eighty five Bears and five 470 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: or six of their starters are great, great players. Yeah, 471 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: the Packers activated offensive lineman Lteen Jenkins. Yeah, there's a 472 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: lot of activations, Christian Watson, tight end Robert Tonyan. So 473 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 1: I guess that's good news and it's kind of like 474 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,239 Speaker 1: the Dobbins thing. Okay, we're activating you, doesn't mean you're 475 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 1: gonna be there in week one. Oh. Also in the 476 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: Dobbins news, no news, no good news on Gus Edwards either. No, 477 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: he's still he looks like quite a way way so 478 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:53,959 Speaker 1: Mike Davis. He's the two right now. To Davis's credit, 479 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: one year ago, we didn't think he's stunk. You know, 480 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,479 Speaker 1: he had a really bad year with Atlanta. No one 481 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: thought he was a second coming to Jim Brown or anything. 482 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 1: But he's had an okay career. But still, I mean, 483 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,479 Speaker 1: that's not what you were counting on if you were 484 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: the Ravens. I wonder with their wealth of draft pick 485 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: here comes the rain, here comes the rain. Yeah, I 486 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: wonder with the Ravens wealth of draft picks that everybody praised, 487 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: you know, you had five fourth round picks or whatever 488 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: it was, maybe you should have taken a back in 489 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 1: the receiver earlier offense does still matter, just continuing other 490 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: than tight ends, take a bunch of tight endsnch ofight 491 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: ends right and upon her. And I know they took 492 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: a back in the sixth round, but maybe you should 493 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: have used the mid round pick on those two spots. Yeah. Um, 494 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: how about this one? Former pit player Quadre Olison was 495 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: first up for the Falcons and they're running back rotation. 496 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: Really that surprises me a little bit. I mean that's 497 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: over our's year. I wonder if Cordill Patterson's actually going 498 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: to be more receiver again. Might be. Ye, they're short there. 499 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: They like big physical receivers. Um who five He had 500 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: five carries for thirty three yards though, so it wasn't 501 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: it wasn't awful. No, I mean he's a downhill pounder. 502 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 1: I mean he's not Derrick Henry, but they look for 503 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry types. You know, they want big physical guys 504 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: and he fits that mold. Yeah. Um, I'm just reading 505 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: through some stuff here on on the NFL dot com 506 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: with takeaways from some of the games. Here, there's this 507 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: is one Steelers first round quarterback Kenny Pickett turned down 508 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 1: the volume and all those negative practice reports with an 509 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: inspired first showing a bit extreme after Mitch Trobiski and 510 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph helped serve with their position of positive outings too. 511 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: Uh okay, I mean I guess what they're saying is 512 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: all three places they all played well that's exactly what 513 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: we're saying. Yeah, I mean, I guess there were some negative, 514 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 1: you know, reports about their picket and not of late, 515 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: not as many of late. Yeah, I think the reports 516 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 1: were more of he's not Joe Montana yet, folks. I mean, 517 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: he looks like a rookie, and he looked very much 518 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: like a rookie early in camp. As we suspected. The 519 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: Jets have moved at George fan over to right tackle 520 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: after signing Dwayne Brown. He'll be the left tackle at thirty. 521 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: Should work out well enough, I suppose seven, and they 522 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: gave a two year deal. These left tackles are now 523 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: just starting to hang around forever. The wit worse and 524 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: those guys, you know, they're smart and tough, goes a 525 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: long way. It was a long way when the tricks 526 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: of the trade. Uh, looks like Beckton will ever play 527 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: for them again. Yeah, I don't know. I mean a 528 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: question of Browns on a two year deal and Beckton's 529 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: kind of expensive, and there was not great news before that, 530 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: and who knows. It looks like the forty center position 531 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 1: speaking of that, or speaking of the center position, looks 532 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: like it's gonna be Jake Brendel because Daniel Brunskill, who 533 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 1: was fight battling with him for a starting job, has 534 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: a hamstring injury. That's another one that, like their interior 535 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 1: offensive line is a problem is a underreported disaster or 536 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: right now. And they have a lot of mid round 537 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: picks and banks. There was their second round pick out 538 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: of Notre Dame last year, which made no sense to 539 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: me because he's like a three or fifty pound masher. 540 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: He's not a shanty type player at all. Um the 541 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: podcast I host with Brian Peacock, he does the Niners 542 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: and he hates the idea, but he thinks that they're 543 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: looking for more power, Like I don't know why you 544 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: miss messed with the best running game. And yeah, interior 545 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: line for the Niners is a problem area. So who's 546 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: the starting center? Now? Uh? What did I say? His name? 547 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 1: Was here? Somebody I've never heard, somebody who's never been 548 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: in my kitchen, Jake Brendle. Wasn't he the fly or whatever? 549 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: Might have been the same guy. Did you see justin 550 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: watching former South Fayette football star Justin Watson five catches, 551 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: including a twenty two yard touchdown for the Chiefs on Sunday, 552 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: looks looks like he's gonna make uh make that team 553 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: this interesting because Tampa Bay Buccaneers Ross the Clemson kid 554 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: is out for the year. Unfortunately, there's a spot to 555 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: we have there. And Okay, yeah, good guy Justin Watson, 556 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: so good for him for Yeah, there you go. Um, 557 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: Albert oh played a lot in the rotation with the 558 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: other Broncos tight ends. It looked a little at the 559 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: Broncos usage report. He's the only one of their offense 560 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: ive played at all. I mean, the guys you think, 561 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: like the top two receivers, top two running backs, none 562 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: of those guys draft a great Dolsits who we liked 563 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: in the draft in the third round. Uh, everybody's saying 564 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: that Alberto is gonna be this fantasy sleeper and all 565 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: this stuff that I don't know guaranteed yet. Now I 566 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: think it's guaranteed. Um, with Patrick's injury, I would think 567 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: you'll see less receiver three receiver sets than originally planned. 568 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: Maybe that opens the door for both of them a 569 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, Zack Moss had a good preseason starts 570 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: against the U for the Bills. Against the Colts, Um Cook, 571 00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: the rookie did very Yeah, I got some work with 572 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: you challenge, so that those thoughts that we had of 573 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: a go go talk to the Bills about Zack Moss. 574 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: That's probably not gonna happen. I think, as we said earlier, 575 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: I think the Steelers are pretty happy right now with 576 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: they're running backs, right. I mean I thought I threw 577 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: a trace Sermon's name Moss. You know guys that were young, cheap, physical, 578 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be in that market at all. Out of 579 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: the Steelers now happening? What you got? Um? Apparently the 580 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: uh we saw Travis a t M with ten touches 581 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: in one quarter with the Jaguar starters and put your 582 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: pace for forty. I'm no mathematician, right, that's a lot. 583 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: That's the Steelers are playing, of course. Yeah, I would 584 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: think you'll see a lot of a t N. Robinson 585 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: still out of the equation. I think they are holding 586 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: out hopes that he'll be around for week one. Um, 587 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: a t M supposedly looks one back. All the camp 588 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: reports have been glowing Rember. Yeah, his quarterback in college 589 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: is now his quarterback in Jacksonville. I think he can 590 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: throw the ball. Yeah, my fantasy teams, I can promise 591 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: you that I'll bet this guy won't be, even though 592 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: last week you said that, well, he might be Daniel Jones. 593 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: Did you see his took three big hits in one quarter? 594 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: He just got it. It was not not good. No, 595 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: they even played Barkley a little bit early, and you 596 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: know this, Yeah, Jones struggled. Um. I don't know what 597 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: to think of that group. There's so much inconsistency around him. 598 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: Would it would it make sense to go get Jimmy 599 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: and sign him to a two year deal and just 600 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: have him there for Jones or the next guy. I mean, 601 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: that could be a Jimmy Landing squat. Reporters in Buffalo 602 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: have not seen Bill's cornerback for Davious White since an 603 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: workout early in training camp. They're guessing that he could 604 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: start the season on the pub list. That's a big 605 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: that's a big problem. The first I read that, I 606 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: heard that it would be Kier Elam and Christian Bentford 607 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: the tight battle for snaps opposite him, and now Elam's 608 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: got a little bit more. I know very little about 609 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: Benford except that people have raved about him in camp 610 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: as a camp darling rookie. He's a rookie, non pedigree guy. 611 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: He's certainly not your Davis White. Yeah, that's a that's 612 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: a big deal. Uh. Dolphins lost uh cornerback Trill Williams 613 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: uh to a torn a c l against the Bucks. 614 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: It looked like he was they picked him up from 615 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: the Saints. It looked like he was going to be 616 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: the back, top corner back on the outside and that, well, 617 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: that's not gonna happen. Now. They play a ton of 618 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: dime and corners on islands. Corners are important for them. Yeah. Absolutely. 619 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: We just think of Malik Willis's performance on he makes plays, 620 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, yeah, I didn't think he was bad. Um, 621 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: H'm intrigued. I mean, by all accounts, he has a 622 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: lot of learning to do, and um, we'll see. I'm intrigued. 623 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: I'm rooting for him. I liked him a lot coming 624 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: out of school. I thought he'd gone earlier than he did. 625 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: I think some people think he's a year away from 626 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: being a year away. You know which you want to 627 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: you know, everyone thought would be a year away, But 628 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: I think he's two years away in general. But that offense, 629 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: I don't count on Tannehill, Henry Hooper, Woods Burkes and 630 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: a bad old line for much so Therefore, does Willis 631 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: get a package early on just to create some offense. 632 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:20,959 Speaker 1: It might be he might get in a little earlier 633 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: playing time than you think. Yeah, we could happen there. Um, 634 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: it looks like our guy Carson is strong. The Eagles 635 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: gave him the highest guaranteed salary of any undrafted free 636 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: agency and it looks like a long shot to make 637 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: the roster for the Eagles. Yeah, nothing's been good since 638 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: any I mean, his tape is good, but everything since 639 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: has been bad news. Yeah, he didn't have It doesn't 640 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: fit their offense at all, No, not one bit, right, right, Like, 641 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: I don't know why he would even sign there than 642 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: the highest guaranteed sound right. I Mean it made me 643 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: think that a lot of times when those guys happen, 644 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: it's a medical We want you, but we're not going 645 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: to spend pick on you, so we'll give you a bump. 646 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: We like your tape and if you can overcome the 647 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 1: medical stuff, great. But they weren't running quarterbacks. I don't 648 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: understand why that is a strange one. As a strange 649 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: one he is Matt Williamson, I am Dale, Lolly. You're 650 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation. Radio. We're 651 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: gonna take a break. We are live from Steelers training 652 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 1: camp here at same fens of College. Looking down there, 653 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: Chooke's a quarter for holding holding court down there below us, 654 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: Uh signing a bunch of autographs. Um. I know it's 655 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: him because I can see the head sticking up. Because 656 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 1: he is six ft six. He stands out that crowd 657 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: for sure. He had a pretty good game. Yeah, did 658 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: you see he had just flattened the Uh, just a 659 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: complete pancake blocking them on the fifty two. You'll see 660 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: it when you re watch. I did remember it. I 661 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: don't remember who fifty two is, but yeah, But anyway, 662 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: so we're gonna take another break. Here. You're listening to 663 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: our live coverage here from training camp on ESPN nine 664 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,760 Speaker 1: seventy and Steelers Nation Radio. He's Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lolly. 665 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,959 Speaker 1: We'll be back right after this to finish up the show. 666 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: This is The Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 667 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: on your home of the Black and Gold, Steelers Nation Radio. 668 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is Matt Williamson 669 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 1: and Matt Uh. This is our on going coverage from 670 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: Steelers training game like here on ESPN Night seven and 671 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. Matt and I are the drive on 672 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 1: the Steelers Nation Radio. You can hear us year round 673 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: from four to six during the season. We are on 674 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: bringing all kinds of good stuff five days a week. 675 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: I can also hear us both on the pregame shows 676 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 1: and things of that nature. Um Man, I thought it 677 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: was a big day from Matt Canada. As we mentioned 678 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,760 Speaker 1: earlier in the show, Uh kind of unleashing that offense 679 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: a little bit every all three quarterbacks looking good as 680 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:02,280 Speaker 1: a testament to him. The running game was a testament 681 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: to him. It takes me to New England. So apparently 682 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,359 Speaker 1: this has come out now that New England let Matt 683 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: Patricia called plays for Brian Hoyer. Well, Joe Judge called 684 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: plays for rookie Bailey Zappy. I have heard that what 685 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: on God's Green Earth are they doing up there? Right? 686 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: And neither one was Mac Jones the starter. So it's 687 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: the very old backup in the very like you break 688 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,439 Speaker 1: a cold pol que in half and send the guys 689 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,839 Speaker 1: into the room and say this is tryouts. Yeah, and 690 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 1: one of you is gonna be the coordinator. And I 691 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: don't know if you're familiar with Greg Bdard. Yes, I 692 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: know Greg well, I thought you did, okay, and I 693 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 1: you may know better than I do. I think he 694 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: has a site similar to Decay in the New England area. 695 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 1: And Greg's background is exclusively football for many many years now. 696 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 1: You know he's been doing as long as you and 697 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 1: I have basically, and I'm certain I didn't read it 698 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: from my own eyeballs that he's come out many times 699 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 1: and has said in my whole history of doing this, 700 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: I've never seen worst training camp offense than what is 701 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,839 Speaker 1: going on with the Patriots right now. And he's getting 702 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 1: his heward right now in New England for saying that. 703 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,359 Speaker 1: He's just being honest, being honest every practice he's not 704 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: watching from afar. He's very dialed in. He knows his 705 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 1: stuff and looks at their offense and thinks it's the 706 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: worst one he's ever seen, you know, in training camp. 707 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 1: I don't know what to think of that. I mean, 708 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: I I understand that you never can be critical of 709 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 1: Belichick and he's earned all of that. But what they've 710 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 1: done lately coaching and roster wise, and by that I 711 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:40,800 Speaker 1: mean like the last two years is curious or crazy 712 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: or both. It's somewhere between curious and bonkers, and it 713 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 1: might be leading more towards the bonkers. I mean, all 714 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: good things come to an end. Was Chuck Noles great 715 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: a coach his final season as he was in eight? 716 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: Probably not? Was Landry? Was Shula? Probably not? You know, 717 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: in is Pete Carroll the guy he was a couple 718 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: of years ago? Is there a reason Sean Payton walked 719 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: away from the game this year? You know, I just 720 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: think that I'm not sure what Bill is doing lately. 721 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,879 Speaker 1: I don't know if Bill knows what he's doing right now, 722 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,760 Speaker 1: because it's it's a strange situation. Offensive coordinators are important. 723 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 1: Coordinators do matter, and and you know you don't call 724 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 1: it right. You know there's always a secret up there. 725 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:27,280 Speaker 1: Who's calling the defense? Right? Well, it's Bill Belichick's defense? Okay, okay, 726 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 1: who's doing it? Is it his son? Now calls your 727 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: offensive place? This is in nineteen seventy two. Or the 728 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: quarterback goes out there and calls his own right, unless 729 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 1: your quarterbacks a second year quarterback. It was weird in 730 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: Miami that they had co coordinators, and they quickly changed 731 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 1: that with this new coaching staff. That's not gonna fly 732 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,320 Speaker 1: a you're gonna have a coach now in New England 733 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: depending on who the quarterback is. And I know I'm 734 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: in distanced them, right and or is neither one the 735 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,439 Speaker 1: guy or you know, there's no one taking that job 736 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,280 Speaker 1: and taking it by control and judging Patricia. Former NFL 737 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,240 Speaker 1: head coaches unsuccessful ones, but they were NFL head coaches. 738 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 1: One a special teams guy went a defensive guy like 739 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 1: this is bizarre behavior and it sounds like practices are 740 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: a disaster. If this were any other coach than Belichick, 741 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 1: That's kind of where I'm going with, right. I mean, 742 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 1: maybe three or four guys in the league and including 743 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 1: the one here in Baltimore, probably get away with it 744 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,320 Speaker 1: for a while. But if they're the thirty second ranked 745 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 1: offense in the league at Halloween, they're not getting Nobody 746 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 1: gets away with those, you know what I mean? Like, 747 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,840 Speaker 1: who do you fire? Well, we gotta get rid the 748 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: office cordinator. Who is it, right? I mean, do you 749 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,359 Speaker 1: start pushing Bill out or yeah? I mean, I don't 750 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: know what to make of all that. I just think 751 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 1: it's it's very strange, very strange. Indeed, uh as I 752 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 1: mentioned Matt, I thought Matt Canada had a nice day 753 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: at the office. Yeah, And you know, I was is 754 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: vociferous a critic of him as anyone last year, and 755 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,280 Speaker 1: I audit that, hey, you're working with with an eighteen 756 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 1: year veteran quarterback. You're gonna do what he wants to do, 757 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 1: what he what he is capable of doing. But I 758 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: thought that they could have been a little more creative 759 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: with some of that stuff. Um, but I thought that that, 760 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 1: you know, you're starting to see some of the things 761 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 1: that he wants to do, Canada wants to do with 762 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 1: this offense. And I know a lot of listeners were 763 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 1: shocked that Canada was returned this year, you know, And 764 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 1: I get that the offense was hard to watch. Generally speaking, 765 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: if you would just watch that tape and not know 766 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,359 Speaker 1: any of the circumstances, most offensive coordinators on thirty two 767 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 1: teams probably would not have been retained. I get that, 768 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 1: and I'm not saying he should have been or shouldn't 769 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,280 Speaker 1: have been, But I think that now we know his plan, 770 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 1: how it's going to be implemented with the style of quarterback, 771 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 1: I think Pickett and Robinsky have a lot of similar 772 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 1: traits that are obviously very important for this scheme and 773 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: if it doesn't work this year, well he probably won't 774 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 1: be back. But this will be the true test of 775 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 1: what man Matt Canada is and what his vision is. 776 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 1: And we'll see and test number one, which is a 777 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 1: much smaller test than the ones that happened in the 778 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 1: regular season, was a raging success for me. Yeah, I 779 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 1: mean the thing that I really liked to you know, 780 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 1: you saw some some runs open up. Well, yeah, you 781 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,399 Speaker 1: saw some some past some of the passes that were 782 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 1: thrown were schemed up, things of that nature. Throws that 783 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 1: you see that just didn't happen last year that you 784 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: see across the league of play action. Here's a cross 785 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 1: or over the middle of boom, you get them out there, 786 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: pick up twelve. You know, like nothing came easy last year. No, 787 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 1: it's it certainly didn't. It was almost like the Steelers 788 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,320 Speaker 1: were fighting themselves half the time. On offense, They're swimming 789 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: up stream from the start. And I'll mention again they 790 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 1: had seventeen They scored seventeen points in the first half 791 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 1: of that game. And I understand it's a preseason game, 792 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 1: but I watched seventeen eighteen Steeler football games and in 793 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,919 Speaker 1: twenty four or twenty two. I'm sorry if you count 794 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 1: the preseason games, and then they had seventeen points in 795 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 1: a first to have one slash year once um, so 796 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 1: that to me was was encouraging. There's results, and they 797 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: were moving the football pretty consistently. There were there weren't 798 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,399 Speaker 1: the three announce that we saw so much of last 799 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 1: year that just put your defense at too much, too 800 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 1: much at risk. Yeah, and again it was just a 801 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 1: lot easier, more efficient moving of the football that you 802 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 1: often see in the league now. A lot of the rules, 803 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 1: a lot of the scheme's favor offense. That's what they 804 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,360 Speaker 1: want the league to be, and you know you weren't 805 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 1: able to capitalize on that. Again, I'm gonna watch more 806 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,800 Speaker 1: O line, but I don't think you need the O 807 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: line to be killers, especially with the skill guys. They 808 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,959 Speaker 1: have to have efficient offense, and I'm not talking about 809 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 1: being the best offense in the league, but taking what's 810 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 1: given to you, get the ball out quick, use some 811 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 1: advantages like play action, and get some high quality weapons, 812 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: which I think the seam now has high quality skill 813 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 1: guys on office, you know, and depth and and let 814 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 1: those guys be the stars. Yeah, I mean I I 815 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,800 Speaker 1: watched a bunch of other games over the weekend and 816 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 1: snippets here and there, and honestly, you know, I'll I'll 817 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 1: look at the Steelers. When I look at the Steelers 818 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 1: skill position, guys there in the top third, if not 819 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 1: the topah, right, I think it's a really good group. 820 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 1: And if you get especially if Pickens is truly a star, yeah, 821 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,239 Speaker 1: I mean I think we all know now he's gonna 822 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,720 Speaker 1: be a good player, right, he might be a star. 823 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: He may be better than any skill guy here, right, 824 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 1: you know, I think that's on the horizon very soon. 825 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 1: And that changes the balance. If you know Deante is 826 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:39,000 Speaker 1: your second best receiver, changes everything. James fire Mouse your 827 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 1: number three target. You know, like people or right now, 828 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: you don't have to ride you know, people were worried 829 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 1: about the Steelers riding Naji into the ground. I don't 830 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 1: think you have to worry about that quite as much. 831 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,880 Speaker 1: If you know, again, if you're preparing for the Steelers, 832 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 1: and boy, this rookie special that's gonna be our big goals, 833 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 1: we gotta roll coverage to him time and time again. 834 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 1: So I didn't like the touchdown pass that went the 835 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 1: gunner Olszewski, Okay, Olschewski's out there pickings to two corners, 836 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 1: went with Pickens on that and left Olshefsky by himself. Yeah, 837 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 1: right right, right like that, he's already getting that. Okay, 838 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 1: this guy's big, we're gonna have trouble with him, and 839 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 1: maybe it's just a completely blown coverage. It was coincidental 840 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,839 Speaker 1: the two guys went with with Pickens, but I think 841 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,799 Speaker 1: you're going to see more of that. You're probably on 842 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,319 Speaker 1: top of this with you and I just haven't talked 843 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:31,279 Speaker 1: since the game. Really, his interviews really remind me of 844 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 1: Nausey in that he just has extreme athletic arrogance in 845 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:41,280 Speaker 1: terms of not being an a hole about it. Just wow, 846 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:42,799 Speaker 1: that was really good. He's like, that's kind of what 847 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 1: I do, what I have my whole life, you know, 848 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 1: you know, I know I'm good at this stuff. And 849 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 1: I guess one of you guys that interviewed him, he 850 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 1: did a lot of homework on the opponents, and I 851 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 1: don't think the team did that or scheme did. I 852 00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 1: think he did that on his own, you know, kind 853 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,360 Speaker 1: of I'm going to prepare and do the extra work, 854 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 1: and he likes blocking to you know, it's not just 855 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 1: the diva. I want to TikTok and do you know 856 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 1: all these kinds of things. He's a complete player. Yeah, 857 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna blow this guy up in front of me 858 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:17,279 Speaker 1: and embarrass him. And I know I'm good football. He 859 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,400 Speaker 1: wants to embarrass the guy across from Yeah. Right, and again, 860 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 1: him and Nausea are much different. Yeah, personality types, but 861 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 1: they both know they're good and they've been good forever. 862 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,799 Speaker 1: This isn't news to them. Yeah, you know, the rest 863 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 1: of us are just kind of gett included on this now, 864 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 1: right right right, I've been good forever. That was good 865 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,399 Speaker 1: at Georgia, was good at Bama. I was the top 866 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,840 Speaker 1: recruiting the country. I mean, I'm used to this stuff. 867 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,799 Speaker 1: I mean, this is what I do. This is what 868 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 1: I do, This is what we do. What we do, 869 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 1: but we will not be doing it anymore today because 870 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 1: that's going to do it for today's show. Uh So, 871 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,400 Speaker 1: for my partner Matt Williamson, for Zach Beck at the studio, 872 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,279 Speaker 1: keeping us on the air. For Jacob Brect you're keeping 873 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 1: us on the site. Not getting wet today, Jacob, you 874 00:45:58,239 --> 00:45:59,879 Speaker 1: did a good job of it. Just a little wet, 875 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,800 Speaker 1: just a little wet for Jacob Today, I'm Dale Lolly. 876 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,880 Speaker 1: We thank you for listening to this edition of the 877 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 1: Drive on Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN nine seventy. We'll 878 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 1: be back again tomorrow. H