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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barria, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally Bet, coming soon to Ohio on eight

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN. Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Oh it's live on a Tuesday this year.

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Speaker 3: Plee The Browns Daily brought to you by Bally Bet,

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Speaker 3: coming soon to Ohio on eight fifty esp and Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: Merely Bo in the Great Sea at the undisclosed location.

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Speaker 3: The sun is shining. My friend, It's gorgeous, gorgeous.

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Speaker 4: It's a beautiful thing. But I gotta tell you, boy,

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Speaker 4: hit me, I'm a little bit nervous right now as

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Speaker 4: I'm not feeling like I was.

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Speaker 5: Oh.

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Speaker 4: No, I received a text from somebody, Oh God, who

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Speaker 4: believe is that they have identified the undisclosed location. This

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Speaker 4: may or may not be Nanah. And she sent me

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Speaker 4: this and asked me if that looks familiar, And I

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Speaker 4: said no, I said, I've never seen those trees before.

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Speaker 3: Never.

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Speaker 4: This is what I said. So there are people out

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Speaker 4: there right now working the Internet, trying to scouring, trying

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Speaker 4: to identify the location. And and I was told by

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Speaker 4: this individual that Gibbet's clues that he lets slip the

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Speaker 4: other day were instrumental in their process.

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Speaker 3: I think secretly underminding the undisclosed location.

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Speaker 2: I mean not even secretly. I think he wants people

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Speaker 2: to know where all. What I think though, was we

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Speaker 2: were a couple of people today that walked up to

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Speaker 2: the fence over here.

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Speaker 4: We might need r J and Boykin on you know,

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Speaker 4: patrol now, because if I can't, if it's that easy

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Speaker 4: find in the end disclosed location, then I don't feel safe.

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Speaker 3: I'm like Eba, I don't do well at parties. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's where I'm at, right with that?

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Speaker 4: You know, I thrive? Yeah, kegger tonight. Yeah, incredible episode.

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Speaker 4: By the way, you haven't watched Succession yet. Stop listening

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Speaker 4: for five minutes. But it's Tuesday.

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Speaker 5: Disclaimer.

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Speaker 3: I think there's enough time.

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Speaker 4: Five minutes. Stop listening. We'll be done with this in

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Speaker 4: five minutes. Yeah, I think there's enough time.

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Speaker 3: So the great probably the most most incredibly visceral fight

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Speaker 3: scene between a husband and wife I've seen since Tony

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Speaker 3: and Carmela in White Caps is the way I kind

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Speaker 3: of felt what.

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Speaker 4: It had though, a common to it, just the calmness

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Speaker 4: to it was a little bit of a contract.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The physicality, Yeah, it was just.

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Speaker 4: People standing there being like you want the real truth?

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Speaker 3: Ah, Bootsy, here you go, here you go.

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Speaker 4: Okay, ouch, I'm gonna hurt you now. Okay, I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: hurt you even more now, Okay, I'm gonna really, really

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Speaker 4: really hurt you. And I don't know where they go.

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Speaker 2: I don't know where you say after that.

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Speaker 3: And once you have the final haymaker of you're unfit

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Speaker 3: to be a mother. Once that happened, then at that point,

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Speaker 3: you're there's no coming back.

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Speaker 4: And I'm team Walam's Gams, to be honest with you,

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Speaker 4: I was.

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Speaker 3: I don't think how far that's come, because if you

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Speaker 3: think about how how bad he was in the first season,

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Speaker 3: like how hateable by the way your team a guy

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Speaker 3: who had a fake emotion for having to fire a

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Speaker 3: firing them, Like that's that's how bad all the.

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Speaker 4: People are on that thing. I even like on the

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Speaker 4: show at all. Well, I think full stop.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I real quick, just just big picture. I think

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Speaker 3: I used to think he was great.

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Speaker 4: I do.

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Speaker 2: I do hate him, not too.

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Speaker 3: I think the the one. The one thing that is

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Speaker 3: that that's a little bothersome about what's happened since they

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Speaker 3: eradicated Logan from the situation. Who was the fulcrum of

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Speaker 3: the whole thing was? Is you spent the better part

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Speaker 3: because Kendall's name is on a piece of paper, Like

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Speaker 3: Like how did that? Doesn't I didn't like that. I

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Speaker 3: that I don't think you needed to add all this

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Speaker 4: Agreed and even and I thought that Shive inviting me

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Speaker 4: there was such a just brutal, cruel move because the

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Speaker 4: last time Tom saw him, he's like, I would kill

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Speaker 4: him for sure, and doing it for her powertru her yes,

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Speaker 4: for power, right, which was basically to backstab her brothers

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Speaker 4: he's gone. He's a joke.

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Speaker 5: It was.

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Speaker 4: It was a rough It was an an enthralling episode,

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Speaker 4: but also a rough episode, and it left me being like, oh,

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Speaker 4: the other person I like is Jerry. I thought it

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Speaker 4: does a great, great Jerry episode.

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Speaker 3: I could have got you there, but no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: And by the way, I'm controlling the narrative about everything.

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Speaker 4: You're giving me a ton of money and if you

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Speaker 4: do anything at all, I have very incriminating things on you,

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Speaker 4: this will blow you up.

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Speaker 3: So don't try him. Yeah, I like the con Man too.

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Speaker 4: Con Man's play is pretty great. Oman. Oh my, go

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Speaker 3: Diplomatic plates so great, We'll walk right through the airport,

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Speaker 4: So that was great, And I think I do like.

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Speaker 3: I'll be honest, So I like Frank and Carl, all

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Speaker 4: Frank Carl are fine. Jerry, I really like Carl. I

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, that guy's amazing.

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Speaker 4: I think I like that guy. He comes here a

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Speaker 3: Then there's amazing. I like that guy a lot.

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Speaker 2: I don't know who that guy's name is, but he's.

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Speaker 4: I think he must be the guy that is cast

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Speaker 2: You know who that guy is?

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Speaker 3: No, that's that he was the guy who sided with

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Speaker 3: Cercy in the final season of Game of Thrones. Wait

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Speaker 3: what the Iron Fleet? Not the Iron Fleet they he

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Speaker 4: That's the sailor the brother Yeah yeah, are you sure? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Which is just not so stupid. That guy, it's the

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Speaker 3: same guy.

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Speaker 4: Wow, Yeah, that I did not see. I don't know

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Speaker 4: why I didn't put that to get it. Must be

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Speaker 4: his beard was a much thicker beard. Now I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: find him.

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Speaker 2: I don't have verification. I'm almost positive though, I like

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Speaker 2: certain it's the same guy.

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Speaker 4: I like it. I'm just trying to find him on here.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't even make it in a he doesn't make

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Speaker 4: it on the top cast of a Game of Throwing.

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Speaker 4: The guy was played a massive role down the stretch anyway,

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Speaker 4: all right, but yeah, great episode there, Barry drifting into

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Speaker 4: very dark territory.

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Speaker 3: I have not gotten into that one.

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Speaker 5: So good.

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Speaker 4: The first two seasons are so good and it it's

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Speaker 5: It's just worse.

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Speaker 4: Going to see how it ends. We'll see how it ends. Success.

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Speaker 3: They've only got so they only have three left of succession, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's it. Yeah, that's the end of it. Great show.

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Speaker 4: Brutal just absolutely unbelievable in my opinion. With Brutal Fight,

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Speaker 4: that was just you're just watching that, like whoa, Yeah, it's.

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Speaker 3: This guy, same guy. Me, what's this guy? Same guy?

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Speaker 5: What?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's unbelievable. You're on?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're you're on?

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Speaker 3: Yeah that guy?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: How did I not see that? I feel like I

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Speaker 4: I could kind of see that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how about it?

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Speaker 4: God, it's beard makes them look so different.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the beard, that's what does it. It's so

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm getting to the IMDb just to confirm. But

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Speaker 4: It would still surprise me because it must be.

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Speaker 2: Is he Oh maybe not?

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Speaker 3: No, that's possible.

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Speaker 4: He looks like I'm so confident. Yeah, he looks like him.

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Speaker 4: It looks like him. I'm going to figure out who

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Speaker 4: it is. Yeah, I don't figure out who is kind

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Speaker 4: of as we go on. But nonetheless, give a security detail.

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Speaker 4: We need it official. Nana's out here causing problems.

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Speaker 5: She's not over here.

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Speaker 4: How do we know she's got photos? Just said, I'm

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Speaker 4: so mean.

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Speaker 5: Don't don't drive on the lawn. I can tell you

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Speaker 5: what happens. If that happens, what happens. I'm sure that

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Speaker 5: top men get involved.

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Speaker 3: Top men for law drive. We're not an Augusta national,

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Speaker 3: for God's sakes.

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Speaker 4: Just saying like, come on, it's paid for, by the way,

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Speaker 4: my new what about my new move today to back in?

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Speaker 3: I like that quicker escape.

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Speaker 5: Well, I don't know how much quicker you can get

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Speaker 5: currently than our situation.

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Speaker 4: I'm on a high alert. Now, you're fine an undisclosed

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Speaker 4: location when it doesn't feel as undisclosed. They take people

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Speaker 4: to undisclosed locations. You know what, they're called safe houses. Okay,

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Speaker 4: it's a different guy. I'm parked in parked.

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Speaker 3: The guy looks so similar, he does similar.

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Speaker 4: But what's his name is?

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Speaker 3: It's a very honest Yeah, it's the one with the

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Speaker 3: crazy name.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Wow, they could be they really are there. Look at that.

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Speaker 2: They're really similar, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: Really similar. Okay, I got that wrong, bet me O.

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Speaker 4: Listen, we got to the right answer, and you gave

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Speaker 4: us all a lot of enjoyment.

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Speaker 4: Here there are we now now that we're alerted.

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Speaker 5: Good. Great, there's consequences. Who's who's who's working on any places?

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Speaker 3: So last night was the NHL Draft lottery.

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Speaker 3: So, I mean this isn't anything. I don't think there's

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Speaker 3: There is one of those kids. His name's Connor Bedard.

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Speaker 2: So they they leaned into it. The injuries were all legitimate.

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Speaker 3: Actually comes into play before he comes into play from

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Speaker 3: So two other quick things on Chicago before I tie

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Speaker 3: sure you aren't aware of this, they spent a decade

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Speaker 3: I did not know this. It didn't get covered much

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Speaker 4: You're a wealth of information.

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Speaker 5: This is what I do.

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Speaker 3: I drink and I know things. So fast forward to

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Speaker 2: That's what I meant. They pulled a Texans. That's that's

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Speaker 3: Now, Anaheim had the best odds of getting the number

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Speaker 3: If you are slotted two, the worst you can pick

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Speaker 3: You can't go lower than four. One has an eighteen

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Speaker 3: If you're the second worst, then it's like ten percent

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Speaker 4: It's only forty What are the other sixst I was

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Speaker 3: To say, all the other teams have these minuscule amount

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Speaker 4: Huh. Okay, So.

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Speaker 3: Get to the thing last night, they're unveiling the thing,

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Speaker 3: Columbus Blue Jackets will be picking thirds the first drop, right,

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Speaker 3: But the problem was they haven't revealed that yet on

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Speaker 4: Yep, Weeks read off the.

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Speaker 3: Prompter and gave it away even though the omelobes, even

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, The actual lottery was actually done two

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Speaker 3: This is a Ron Burgundy moment. It wasn't a rigged moment,

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Speaker 3: They still could have made sure that the Chicago won

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Speaker 3: the lottery. It begs this question. Astute point, mister Emory.

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Speaker 3: Why not just do the and balls in front of everybody,

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Speaker 4: That's how the NBA does it as well.

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Speaker 3: There's no reason to have a closed door. Nobody cares

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Speaker 2: Just have them pop.

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Speaker 3: Here's the number, here's the team, this is them. Why

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Speaker 5: Doors to certify. Yeah, it gets like certified like two hours.

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Speaker 4: This is what it needs to be.

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Speaker 3: There used to be though, like the ball would pop

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Speaker 4: It should be a hundred balls going and one gets

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Speaker 3: That's who gets there every Saturday night. They do it

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Speaker 3: around this country for state lotteries with big Why can't

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: So you go from on one night I mean, it's

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Speaker 3: It's crazy Wiggins all of that stuff, like we've been

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Speaker 4: It's just it was tough.

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Speaker 3: The drama of it was incredible, tough, incredible.

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Speaker 5: I can't someone someone's out of a job.

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Speaker 3: Somebody at somebody blew it on the prompter in theob

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Speaker 5: So but it just damages They call the growth question

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Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly. So things are starting to trend back in

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Speaker 5: the right direction. For a long time they weren't. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: and now you throw this shadow over him.

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Speaker 3: I think this will be my view on it is

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Speaker 3: this is largely forgotten tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: Because you know what, because one and if it had

446
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Speaker 5: been Chicago that had been picked third, then it would

447
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Speaker 5: have never done. No.

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Speaker 3: It's I mean, the best example of the NHL not

449
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Speaker 3: being rigged is that Connor McDavid plays in Edmonton. Like

450
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Speaker 3: that's literally the last place you'd want him to play

451
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Speaker 3: is a north as far north as you can be

452
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Speaker 3: from a population standpoint in North America of significant population

453
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Speaker 3: and in the Western time zone, like you're not, yeah right,

454
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Speaker 3: that's not going to work at all. So yeah, but

455
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Speaker 3: that happened. I mean, the drama of it was incredible though.

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Speaker 4: Well yeah, I even blew up on my Twitter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And as bad as the Blue Jackets have been, yes,

459
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Speaker 5: they're the following that that organization has.

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Speaker 3: They put twenty thousand people in that barn every home

461
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Speaker 3: game in March to watch bad hockey. Meantime, the black

462
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Speaker 3: Hawks didn't draw anybody. And they're an original six who

463
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Speaker 3: had Tas and Caine and won three Cups in the

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Speaker 3: last decade plus.

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Speaker 2: And they they get it.

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Speaker 3: It's just sometimes life's not fair and it's that that

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Speaker 3: type of enormous flip.

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Speaker 4: Can can we do a speaking of a big Ta transition,

469
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Speaker 4: speaking of life's not fair?

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Speaker 3: Sure?

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Speaker 4: How about the punt God so ahead For those people

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Speaker 4: who don't know, this kid was coming out of San

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Speaker 4: Diego State and Areza yep, and was punting the ball

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Speaker 4: ninety yards. Oh yeah, I don't remember exactly where he

475
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Speaker 4: got drifted I'm pretty sure Buffalo. I know he got

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Speaker 4: drafted by the Bills, But wasn't it like a reasonable round?

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Speaker 3: It wasn't like her third round? Yeah, not for a punter.

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Speaker 3: I think it was the third round.

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Speaker 4: He is accused of rape, yes, by a young lady

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Speaker 4: down there at San Diegos.

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Speaker 5: Bill's drafted him in the sixth rounds. I thought it

482
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Speaker 5: was take number one that feels more reasonable.

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Speaker 4: But nonetheless to punter got drafted ye, yeah, I guess

484
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Speaker 4: one did get drafted this year. Anyway, he's accused of

485
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Speaker 4: rape again. I do think we need to find a

486
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Speaker 4: balance in our society of you are innocent until proven guilty,

487
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Speaker 4: like anybody can accuse anybody of anything, correct, but you're

488
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Speaker 4: innocent until proven guilty. But at the same time, if

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Speaker 4: he were to be guilty, they don't want to run

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Speaker 4: the risk of him being on their roster when else

491
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Speaker 4: he's convicted, so he gets cut, yes, and basically is

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Speaker 4: out of the NFL. Well, it turns out yesterday it

493
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Speaker 4: was released that it was he is innocent, in fact,

494
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Speaker 4: he wasn't even present at the time, and that it

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Speaker 4: sounds like there was a lot of consensual things that

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Speaker 4: happened with other people, but not Mada Raza.

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Speaker 3: So he wasn't even there.

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Speaker 4: That's the prosecution. It has been determined now that he

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Speaker 4: was not even present at the at the time of

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Speaker 4: the alleged incident.

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Speaker 3: Man, I saw this this morning, but I'm right now,

502
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Speaker 3: I'm just like looking on ESPN just for the story.

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Speaker 3: I don't see it anywhere.

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Speaker 4: The new evidence shows that Bill's former Bills punter Matt

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Speaker 4: Raza was not present at the house when a woman

506
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Speaker 4: alleged that he had sexually assaulted her. Evidence instead shows

507
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Speaker 4: that the accusers having consensual sex with several other men

508
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Speaker 4: that night. A Raisa, being falsely accused of the of

509
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Speaker 4: the crime caused him to lose his job, and it

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Speaker 4: is yeah.

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Speaker 3: So where's the uh, where's the So? Yeah, obviously he

512
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Speaker 3: needs you know, he ought to be back in the league.

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Speaker 3: His talent would certainly allow for that and be the case.

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Speaker 3: And then you know, where is the damages on that front?

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Speaker 3: Is that her as the accuser or is it the prosecutor?

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Speaker 3: Where chargers ever brought?

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Speaker 5: I think so.

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Speaker 3: Now, But I saw this this morning, but I didn't

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Speaker 3: have a chance to really get into it. Yes, So

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Speaker 3: I'm just curious, like, was he ever charged, well, or

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Speaker 3: is this just accusations?

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Speaker 5: No, because I'm looking, I'm looking at something on Buffalo's

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Speaker 5: news radio station.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: The former Buffalo Bills draft pick was cut by the

526
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Speaker 5: team before the start of the season over allegations. Those charges, however,

527
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Speaker 5: have officially been dropped as of today. DA announces no charges.

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Speaker 2: So he was a subject of a civil lawsuit.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's really because it says those charges were dropped,

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Speaker 5: But in the tweet it says the DA announces no

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Speaker 5: charges in San Diego State University football alleged rape case

532
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Speaker 5: involving former punter Matterisa. From the release, ultimately, prosecutors determined

533
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Speaker 5: it is clear the evidence does not support the filing

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Speaker 5: of criminal charges and there is no path to a

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Speaker 5: potential criminal conviction.

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Speaker 4: There is still, i think, a civil case out there

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Speaker 4: because that is a different preponderance of evidence. There is.

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Speaker 3: But it claims that he was there, and now there

539
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Speaker 3: is evidence that he was not correct So that makes

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Speaker 3: no sense. It is why I'm just going through this

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Speaker 3: as fast.

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Speaker 4: I like, yeah, yeah, yeah, so we'll see ultimately what

543
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Speaker 4: happens with him now he had when he was deposed.

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Speaker 4: I think in regards to the civil suit, he had

545
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Speaker 4: admitted to at some point having a sexual relationship with

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Speaker 4: the accuser.

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Speaker 2: I have no I can't speak on that.

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Speaker 5: I don't.

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Speaker 4: I know he did, but that was not that is

550
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Speaker 4: not this. So anyway, he certainly is not guilty of

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Speaker 4: a crime. So we'll see what happens with him.

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Speaker 3: But that it's just one of those it's a one

553
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Speaker 3: of those wild stories, and it's you just I don't

554
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Speaker 3: even know what the right answer is.

555
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Speaker 4: I just know that it was obviously a very it

556
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 4: was a big NFL story. And now who knows what

557
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 4: happens with this kid? Who knows if he ever plays

558
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Speaker 4: in the league again, who knows should if he?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 4: I mean, it feels based on this, it feels like

561
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Speaker 4: if this these facts are the facts. Yeah, yeah, so

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Speaker 4: we'll see. Yeah, that's that is absolutely whid wild.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one of the I don't I don't have

564
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Speaker 3: enough on it to be able to speak articulately on

565
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Speaker 3: on where that thing ought to go. But that's, uh,

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Speaker 3: that's wild story.

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Speaker 4: It is a wild story because it was one of

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Speaker 4: those things you would have heard so much that it

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Speaker 4: became just fact and then he was gone, evaporated. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm curiously if the Bills will ever say anything, and

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Speaker 4: I wonder in a situation like that, they they cut

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Speaker 4: him so that I would imagine they don't control his rights.

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Speaker 4: He is a free agent to imagine, right, Yeah, wild,

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Speaker 4: that's wild.

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Speaker 3: We have some details on the NFL schedule which will

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Speaker 3: come out Thursday. We will get to that coming up next.

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Speaker 3: Also on the program today, we'll have a conversation with

578
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Speaker 3: Jordan Akins, our new tight end from ZZ. You have

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Speaker 3: that to look forward to, which is very nice. We

580
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Speaker 3: should also mention here out of the gates, we do

581
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Speaker 3: have a couple of roster things. We've waived defensive tackle

582
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Speaker 3: Ben Still and wide receiver Marquez Stevenson as well.

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Speaker 2: From the rosters, you have that. You have that information

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Speaker 2: that is out there.

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Speaker 5: Now, all right?

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Speaker 3: Coming up next, as I mentioned, we'll go around the league.

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Speaker 3: Take a look. We're getting closer to schedule revealed day.

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Speaker 3: NFL schedule on Thursday night at eight o'clock. Here are

594
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Speaker 3: some things that we know about this. This is from

595
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Speaker 3: is that Travis's mom, Yes, Travis Kelcey's and Jason Kelsey's

596
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Speaker 3: mom on Twitter last Friday that her son pointed out

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Speaker 3: that may be dropping including the Eagles at Chiefs in

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Speaker 3: week two. So that'll be Sunday Night football Week two.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So Donna Kelcey Dona Kelsey posted something on posted

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Speaker 5: a Facebook comment last week about the Chiefs Germany game

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Speaker 5: in November, who they were playing, and then she also

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Speaker 5: alluded to the fact that the Chiefs would be going

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Speaker 5: to Germany again next.

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Speaker 3: Year, two years in a row. They're running it right back.

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Speaker 5: Which has been denied by a couple people, but not

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Speaker 5: denied by the people that if that not by the

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Speaker 5: top level. So some guy responds, looks like a great

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Speaker 5: chance the Eagles play New England and Germany. Apparently we

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Speaker 5: were there to play one of them. That being the case,

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Speaker 5: no shot they put that game in Germany. You may

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Speaker 5: have two trips over sees this season. She was talking

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Speaker 5: about Philly playing over this guy was talking about Philly

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Speaker 5: playing over there and whatnot, and then she out of nowhere,

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Speaker 5: she just goes Chiefs plays Eagles week two in Arrowhead.

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Speaker 3: There you go, So that'll be the That'll be Sunday Night.

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Speaker 4: Football week two. Could you imagine then that? I think

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Speaker 4: you're gonna get Chiefs Dolphins or Chiefs Begals at followed

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Speaker 4: by Chiefs Eagles.

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Speaker 3: That is a tough sort for them, while you can

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Speaker 3: go Chargers too. Chargers still all tough. So Chargers Dolphins

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Speaker 3: or Bengals would be.

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Speaker 5: So there's some Twitter handle calling themselves at Nerding on

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Speaker 5: NFL NFL schedule update Just for the record, because she

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Speaker 5: says week two they play at Arrowhead. The Royals play

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Speaker 5: a home game at two ten on that Sunday, which

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Speaker 5: would be a direct parking conflict. Plus Arrowhead Stadium is

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Speaker 5: hosting a Beyonce concert the night of Monday, September eighteenth.

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Speaker 5: Our best guess, if true, this game would be Sunday

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Speaker 5: Night Football on the seventh.

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Speaker 3: Oh you don't say, I believe Uncle Bo said that.

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Speaker 4: I believe he did say that right away, right, Yes.

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Speaker 3: That's Sunday Night Football. If it's fift week too, It'sunday

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Speaker 3: Night football. They're not put that anywhere else. My guess

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Speaker 3: is that that's be way up on the draft rankings

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Speaker 3: of games as you're here's the problem here, this is

636
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Speaker 3: why this thing is that the thought it was going

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Speaker 3: to be delayed. They're having to draft every game. So

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Speaker 3: in the old days, you would draft each week. You'd

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Speaker 3: look at the week you draft Thursday night, Sunday night,

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Speaker 3: Monday night, and then and also America's game of the

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Speaker 3: week the four twenty five. Then everything else was just

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00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 3: slotted AFC game, CBS, NFC games, Fox, AFC teams hosting

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Speaker 3: NFC teams, Fox opposite CBS. Does that's it now because

644
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Speaker 3: they got rid of the parameters, every game is being drafted.

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Speaker 3: It's the only that's why we're in this spot. They

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Speaker 3: there aren't any givens anymore. They should never have gotten right.

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Speaker 3: So there were six to eight games every week that

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Speaker 3: were given. Yep, this was a CBS one o'clock, this

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Speaker 3: was a Fox one o'clock.

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Speaker 5: Easy.

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Speaker 3: Now once they get all the weeks situated, now that

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Speaker 3: now are they're having to draft every game.

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Speaker 4: Houston, Indy one o'clock Sundays, easy, Busy Bucks Panthers won.

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Speaker 3: So done simple, that's how it's done. But now so

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Speaker 3: now they're having to go through all of this.

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Speaker 5: Well and so, as Adam Schefter alluded to, and I

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Speaker 5: think we talked about it a little bit yesterday. First

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Speaker 5: Black Friday game ever, teams can be on Thursday Night

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Speaker 5: football twice and not all teams are guaranteed of prime time.

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Speaker 4: Everybody should get a primetime game. That's ridiculous.

661
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 5: It's the NFL, It's the Amazon. Amazon doesn't watch. Amazon

662
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 5: does not want the Houston Texans.

663
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 3: They don't tell you the least attract I think there's

664
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 3: less attractive teams than them. Now. First round pick quarterback

665
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 3: Tampa is a tough watch right now.

666
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 5: I think great Arizona without.

667
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 2: They're loaded up Arizona. Arizona without Kyler is pretty brutal.

668
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 4: Real quick back that we were talking about Donna kelce

669
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 4: So Rich eisen It did a segment on his show

670
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 4: tagged her, Travis and Jason. It said, did Donna Kelcey

671
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Speaker 4: already spoil a couple of the Chief Kingdom's Key twenty

672
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Speaker 4: twenty three matchups? She responds to eisen on Twitter, ha

673
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 4: ha it was already out on the Kansas City Star

674
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 4: May fourth article, I am not privy to anything, lol,

675
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 4: which I would think that she wasn't privy to anything

676
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 4: because I don't think our players know. It's not like

677
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 4: Travis would know.

678
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 2: No, he wouldn't. I don't think he would know anything.

679
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 4: So she's saying she read that in an article that

680
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 4: was in the Kansas City Star. So maybe listen, maybe it.

681
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 3: Was a specially God bless her. But like you read,

682
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 3: some people read stuff on the internet. They think it's true.

683
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 4: Right now if it is true, let's see.

684
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: Maybe it is.

685
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 3: But I have a feeling like if that was in

686
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 3: the Kansas City Star on May fourth, that we would

687
00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 3: have gotten wind of it totally.

688
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 5: As maybe it's in a.

689
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 3: Comment section, yeah can and you can't differentiate what's comments

690
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 3: and what's the story. I have to you used to

691
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 3: have to deal with that all the time with athletes,

692
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 3: especially in the college athletes who would get because in

693
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 3: college sports, I think message boards are far bigger deal

694
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 3: than they are in the NFL. I would have to

695
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 3: deal with it all the time with like Buckeye players,

696
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 3: Like listen, dude, like what you read on a message

697
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 3: board is not what a reporter is writing.

698
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 5: That's coming from S.

699
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 3: That's from S right. People like yeah right, and the

700
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 3: cronies like, you're not, that's not the media, right, well,

701
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 3: the media.

702
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 2: What I was reading this and this and this. It's like, dude,

703
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 2: that's some jockamo writing in a board. It's that is

704
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 2: not a beat writer. Dude, you understand, but they can't differentiate.

705
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 5: Well, and now in social media there's no differentiating.

706
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 3: No, And it's just like what happens in cable news,

707
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 3: like you can't differentiate between the stuff that happens in

708
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 3: the afternoon, which is the news, and the stuff which

709
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 3: happens at night, which is.

710
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 2: All opinion correct. So we just can't know. We're just

711
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 2: not very smart.

712
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 4: The line blurred.

713
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 2: I mean we're not.

714
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 3: We're not smart as a society. We're getting dumber by

715
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 3: the moment. Computers to kill us.

716
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 5: If it's not if it's not week one, if it's

717
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 5: not week one, that game is going to be on

718
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 5: a Sunday night, it's just a matter of of course.

719
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 3: Well, but here's what we don't know. We don't know

720
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 3: how much. Bezos was like, hey, I didn't appreciate the

721
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 3: crap games the last six weeks, and I'm paying you

722
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 3: a premium play.

723
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 5: By play guy didn't either.

724
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 4: No, by the way, I'm shocked that they're running it back.

725
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 3: I am too.

726
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 4: I'm shocked that Al Michaels wasn't like Look, I.

727
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 3: Think he likes Herbie as a person. Herbie's about as

728
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 3: likable as can be, totally, but I think that the Yeah,

729
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 3: I'm surprised too. I'm surprised that that they didn't pull

730
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 3: Sean Well No, Sean Payton's coaching. I'm trying to think

731
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 3: who we could be in that, who could have slid in?

732
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 4: Didn't they do that?

733
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 5: Was it?

734
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 3: What was the first round playoff game? Didn't they do

735
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 3: the playoff game? They didn't do a playoff game? No,

736
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 3: they said goodbye that last Thursday, and that was it.

737
00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 4: Who did the play my play?

738
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 5: Was it?

739
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 4: Dongee? Did Dungee do a playoffs?

740
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 3: Dungeon did a playoff game with with Al.

741
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 5: Al came back for NBC because NBC had two games

742
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 5: that weekend.

743
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 4: They can't it like the Jags crazy comeback and then

744
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 4: they were like dead.

745
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 5: They were dead.

746
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 3: Like Al lost gas Ball a little bit on that one.

747
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 3: It was like he got in Jacksonville. It was a

748
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 3: night game in Jacksonville, and it was they were It

749
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 3: was overwhelming opposition. Who is the to the hell they

750
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 3: play went Chargers, Chargers.

751
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 4: The Chargers a huge in the through like three picks

752
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 4: in the first.

753
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 2: Hand right right right, chargers were up huge.

754
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 3: I think he like thought blowout and then he just

755
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 3: didn't adjust. And he was probably pissed off too, because

756
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 3: I'm sure he likes the Chargers. He's from l A,

757
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 3: so he thought, you know, I'm sure he has some

758
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 3: sort of interesting That was one of the worst of

759
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 3: the ever.

760
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 2: Really was. It was very, very bad. It was he's

761
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 2: my guy, but that.

762
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 4: Was totally I'd love the truth. Get them. Yeah, about

763
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 4: some of the things that.

764
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 3: Right now, ESPN is paying a premium for Buck and Akman.

765
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 4: And apparently maybe they're in somebody else to their roster

766
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 4: and not have to call games. McAfee supposedly is leading.

767
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:10,720
Speaker 5: Oh we'll get that at two fifteen.

768
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll get to that a little bit later on

769
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 3: them all right, said ESPN. ESPN Sunday Night Football, Amazon

770
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 3: plus Fox and ABC who need a big game or

771
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 3: Fox and CBS who want big games? At four to

772
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 3: twenty five, Nance and Nance Romo's on, they're calling them,

773
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 3: they're doing that game. So like, how do you who

774
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 3: do who's what's the pecking order? How do you decide

775
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 3: who's getting the draft picks?

776
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 4: Do you think it just changes every week?

777
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 3: Because right now we're sure that Amazon's paying a premium

778
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 3: for THEIRS. We know ESPN's paying more for THEIRS.

779
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 5: Now, and I know that CBS and Fox get to protect.

780
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 2: X number of games. Is that still the case? It

781
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 2: is still the case, but it's not a lot. I

782
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 2: want to say, it's only a couple, like two or

783
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 2: three games that can protect year.

784
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean their job is to create television shows, correct,

785
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 4: so you want to put the most marquee matchups in

786
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 4: the best slots that you can. But the other thing

787
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 4: that to me that's wild about this is that it's

788
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 4: all flexible now right after the middle of.

789
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 3: The season, it is. But who gets the ability to flex?

790
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 3: Like can Monday Night Football flex too?

791
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:24,760
Speaker 4: I thought it was Sunday and Monday.

792
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 5: I don't know if money can Monday can do it

793
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 5: this year starting next year, I think.

794
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 4: And then they were talking about flexing on Thursdays, which

795
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 4: you cannot do well. Well, that got turned down at

796
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 4: the owner's meetings. But it's not dead. It should be dead.

797
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 4: You got to play on Thursday this week? No, you

798
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 4: can't do that.

799
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 3: I gotta tell you what Like it feels like they've

800
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 3: tried to like level the playing field for all their

801
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 3: media partners. But it's it's a little bit like Ken

802
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 3: ol Roy love them all, not in love with them.

803
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 3: One crown, one head one, there's got to be one

804
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,439
Speaker 3: who has that's the last head to put a crown?

805
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 5: Oh no, wild and cop So according this is five

806
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 5: days ago from Yahoo Flex scheduling will expand to Monday

807
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 5: Night Football beginning in twenty twenty three. Games will be

808
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 5: able to move from Sundays to Mondays and vice versa

809
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 5: from week thirteen and beyond. The NFL would need to

810
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 5: make those switches with at least twelve days notice.

811
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 3: Okay, so then if Sunday Night Football and Monday Night

812
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 3: Football wants the same game, who gets it? And can

813
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 3: CBS or Fox block it? At four to twenty five?

814
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 2: The good news is there's enough franchise quarterbacks in this league,

815
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 2: especially in the AFC, that you should have great matchups.

816
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 3: In all those spots. Here's the question that I have,

817
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 3: But there are certainly some better than others. Of course,

818
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 3: there are better matchups. When the last time the NFL

819
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,959
Speaker 3: didn't draw, It doesn't matter who's playing on Thursday or Monday.

820
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 3: People are gonna watch it, right And to me, like

821
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 3: it almost feels like it's it almost feels like the

822
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 3: four to twenty five as should be the most protected.

823
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the one that generates the biggest ratings.

824
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 3: It generates the biggest ratings, It has actual competition from itself.

825
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 5: Yep.

826
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 3: The other three don't. Yep, they're running unobstructed.

827
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 4: They'll watch it because of fantasy football, gambling, and because

828
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 4: it's the NFL, and because every game matters. That's why

829
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 4: we can have these awesome NBA playoffs. And I know

830
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 4: it's in the rundown somewhere that we'll talk about what

831
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 4: to do with the NBA rgular season. I don't know,

832
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 4: and making some tournament in the middle season. I'm not

833
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 4: interested in that either. I don't care about that whatsoever.

834
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 4: These playoffs are great, but the regular season matter. That's

835
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 4: the advantage that college football and the NFL have. There's

836
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 4: a reason to me that those are the two biggest

837
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 4: sports because everything matters, every game matters. You could watch

838
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 4: our season last year and be like that loss in

839
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 4: Week two the Jets, which was horrific, is going to

840
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 4: have a ripple and there's a good chance that's gonna

841
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 4: come back to bite you at some point in the season,

842
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 4: and it did.

843
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 3: There the sense of urgency everything matter, all has and

844
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 3: the fact that it's once a week feeds into all

845
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 3: of that.

846
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 4: It's once a week. You can marinate on the game

847
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 4: for a few days. You can then look ahead for

848
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 4: a few days, and then it is played out and

849
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 4: then you get to do it again. But everyone matters.

850
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 5: Every game, all right, So bear with me because this

851
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 5: is a little lengthy, but this is the NFL scheduling six.

852
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 4: In baseball games. It's a wild number.

853
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 5: Flexible scheduling will be in effect during the following windows.

854
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 5: For Sunday nights, it may be used twice between weeks

855
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 5: five and ten, and in the NFL's discretion, weeks eleven

856
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 5: through seventeen for Monday nights.

857
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 3: Even that's most of the season.

858
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 5: I'm assuming like week eleven is like Thanksgiving, or Week

859
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 5: ten maybe is Thanksgiving, and that's why it's for Monday nights.

860
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 5: It may be used weeks thirteen through seventeen.

861
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 3: So those two, who has priority if they both want.

862
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 5: To say, The games initially scheduled for Sunday night on NBC,

863
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 5: Monday Night, ESPN or ABC are tentatively scheduled and subject

864
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 5: to change. Only Sunday afternoon games are eligible to be

865
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 5: moved to Sunday night or Monday night, in which case

866
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 5: the initially scheduled Sunday Monday night game would be moved

867
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 5: to Sunday afternoon.

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00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,240
Speaker 3: So in other words, Monday can't take Sunday and Sunday

869
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 3: can't take Monday.

870
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 2: Right.

872
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 5: Sunday afternoon games may also be moved between one pm,

873
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 5: four four oh five and four to twenty five.

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00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,280
Speaker 3: I still think that you have to have a pecking

875
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 3: There must be some pecking order between NBC and ESPN,

876
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 3: But they feel right now that they have more juice

877
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 3: than Fox and than NCBs. T that does feel that

878
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 3: way that CBS and Fox can't stop anything from happening.

879
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 3: So if I'm Fox and CBS and I load up

880
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 3: on the games I want early, I'll take all the

881
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 3: early good games because I can't control the back end.

882
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 4: My guess is that would be when you talk about

883
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 4: the hierarchy, that may be how it is like in

884
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 4: the beginning, they get to protect a couple of games

885
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 4: here and there, and then as the season goes.

886
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 5: And maybe that's why Fox said, why do we need

887
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 5: to invest so much in Buck and Akman when we

888
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 5: can't We're not even going to be guaranteed two or

889
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 5: three years down the line of having the best game.

890
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 4: Well, they're gonna get super.

891
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 3: Bowl though, so's ESPN.

892
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 4: Though.

893
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 3: Now ESPN is gonna get a couple of Super Bowls now.

894
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 4: Correct, So that's on a four year rotation. Amazon is not.

895
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 3: Right, No, not yet, not yet, they won't.

896
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 4: Look, it's gonna end up being And is there still

897
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 4: a max of primetime games? Or now can you play

898
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 4: as many as you want? I mean could they put?

899
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 5: No, there is a max on the prime time game.

900
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 4: So I've seen that from numerous meeting, even with flexes.

901
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 5: Right now come the flex window, and I think the

902
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 5: flex window would be after week eleven.

903
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 4: I mean, you're gonna end up with You're gonna end

904
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 4: up with the Chiefs playing a ton of primetime. You're

905
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 4: gonna end with the Eagles, the Eagles big market bills

906
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 4: Cowboys because they all cowboys. If the Giants are any

907
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 4: good again, they're gonna be down in there a ton.

908
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 3: The Jets are going to play a ton of Primetime

909
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 3: Jets will played the Max.

910
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:57,720
Speaker 4: The Max.

911
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 3: Absolutely, let's do that tomorrow. On the show, five teams.

912
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 5: Were most interested in, Okay, I'll roll that overtle'll do.

913
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 3: They never want to know.

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Speaker 5: What.

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Speaker 3: more on that. This from Matt Bowen his Top thirteen

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00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 3: remaining free agents. Here's some names that are still out

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00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 3: there in the free agency pool, Gibbe, you think some

931
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 3: of these names are surprising? Yanagokway at the top of

932
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 3: that list, Dalton Risner the guard is two, our guy,

933
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 3: Jadavian Clowney is three, Marcus Peters four, Isaiah winn Is five,

934
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 3: Teddy two Gloves is in there, Leonard Floyd, Frank Clark,

935
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 3: Justin Houston, Melvin Ingram, John Johnson, Kareem Hunt still out there,

936
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 3: and Ezekiel Elliott as well.

937
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 4: That's three players from our team a year ago. Prominent

938
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 4: players who are not have not found a home at

939
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 4: this time.

940
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 3: Is there anyone on this list who doesn't fit the

941
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 3: qualification of I'm gonna wait and see how this shakes

942
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 3: out in camp?

943
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 4: Probably well. John Johnson, remember he was it was done

944
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 4: that he was going to the unlike a day he

945
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 4: was a day one free even say with the Chargers,

946
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 4: and then it didn't work out. The guy that I

947
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 4: would say maybe that doesn't make the most sense, only

948
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 4: because he's played in the league for just six years,

949
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 4: is in Gockway. But you know, you look at in Gockway,

950
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 4: he has at least eight sacks every season he's been

951
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 4: in the League eight twelve, nine and a half, eight, eight, ten,

952
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 4: nine and a half, and he's done it amazingly as

953
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 4: a pass rusher. That's pretty good. He's played for five teams.

954
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 4: Started with Jacksonville, then he was with Minnesota, finished with

955
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 4: Baltimore that year. In twenty twenty Raiders. In twenty one

956
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 4: he has ten sacks. Last year, Indy has nine and

957
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 4: a half. To me, that is the guy that if

958
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 4: we could bring in and say this is our extra

959
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 4: pass rusher, that would be great. The other guy who

960
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 4: fits would fit as well. We've mentioned Frank Clark quite

961
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 4: a bit on the show. He is a pretty deductive player.

962
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 4: He's been in league one year longer obviously than in Gockway. Yep,

963
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 4: Michigan kid, but Glennville, Yeah, Michigan, third second round pick

964
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 4: by the Seahawks and fifteen. He has not been as productive,

965
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 4: by the way as in Gockway. Last three year six sacks,

966
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 4: four and a half sacks, five sacks, and he was

967
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 4: a Pro bowler though three of the last four seasons.

968
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 4: Even though with only eight sacks six sex, four and

969
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 4: a half sacks. I just think in Gockway can get

970
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 4: to the quarterback and the other guy that I think

971
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 4: would make sense if we're looking for a veteran. Is

972
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 4: Justin Houston. Now Justin Houston a little bit longer in

973
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 4: the tooth, but boy did he give us fits when

974
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 4: we played the Baltimore Ravens this year. And I think

975
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,720
Speaker 4: he's a guy that absolutely can still get it done.

976
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 4: He had nine and a half sacks last season. He's

977
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 4: had nine or more sacks in four of the last

978
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 4: six years, eight or more in five of the last

979
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 4: six years. So those are the three names that jump

980
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 4: out to me on that list. Absolutely, I'm shock John

981
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 4: Johnson doesn't have a home right now. Clowney is definitely waiting.

982
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 4: I do think it really is surprising me John Johnson

983
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 4: has not found a team yet.

984
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 5: Would you do?

985
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 3: I guess I remember it now that I read it

986
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 3: with Justin Houston that he had twenty two sacks in

987
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 3: a season.

988
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, back in.

989
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 4: Fourteen, I knew he led the league in sacks one year.

990
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have said twenty two because that's double. His

991
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,240
Speaker 4: second and third best seasons are eleven eleven.

992
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

993
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 5: So, but yet.

994
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 3: Twenty fourteen where he goes Yeah, first team All Pro? Yeah, Yeah,

995
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 3: he's a I mean, he's got four Pro Bowls under

996
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 3: his belt, a first team All Pro.

997
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 4: I think he could start. Like I said last year,

998
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 4: he was very good against us.

999
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 3: I mean honest with you, I think we need one

1000
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 3: of these guys.

1001
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 4: I'll take one of them all day long.

1002
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:43,959
Speaker 3: I think you need one.

1003
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 2: I think you need somebody that you can count on

1004
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,879
Speaker 2: opposite Miles and hope that some of the young guys

1005
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 2: develop in it.

1006
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 4: You have Obo two, but like that guy had five

1007
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 4: sacks in his last six games.

1008
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 3: You're counting him to Like.

1009
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 2: I want to, I want knowns. If we can get

1010
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 2: a known, I'm for a known. I'm always known when

1011
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 2: it comes to the pass rush. There's nothing wrong with that.

1012
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 2: And it also the fact of the matter is it

1013
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 2: would leave us, in the event of an injury to

1014
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett, it would leave us to be incredibly thin

1015
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 2: at that position. I think if we can bring a

1016
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 2: Yannick and Gockway in here, you bring a Frank Clark

1017
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,479
Speaker 2: in here, you bring uh Houston, one of those three

1018
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 2: I think would be really really nice for this football team.

1019
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 2: But at the same time, you draft a guy in

1020
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 2: the third round Alex right, like he's got to be a.

1021
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 4: Player for you in year two, he's got to go.

1022
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 4: They like Isaiah Maguire, He's got to be a player

1023
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 4: for you. But I do think, yeah, I'm I would

1024
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 4: not be against that at all. And I think in

1025
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 4: Gokway just as far as a pure pass rusher, he

1026
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 4: gives you a lot of fits. He's probably built most

1027
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 4: similarly to Obo. I think he's around six two two fifty.

1028
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 4: Houston's a bigger guy, sixty three two seventy, but he's

1029
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 4: a little bit older. But he he'd be a one

1030
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 4: year Rentan. He's thirty four. I mean, he's no joke.

1031
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 4: He's not a spring chicken.

1032
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 2: No no.

1033
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,760
Speaker 4: And then Frank Clark is you know, a year older

1034
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 4: than in Gotaway.

1035
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 3: One of the things from the edge rusher perspective, yah

1036
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 3: yah d yabi of the bucks Uh, he's gonna wear

1037
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 3: numbers zero. I would just go on record. I don't

1038
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 3: like zero and football. I don't like the look of it.

1039
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 3: It looks like an O to me. On any jersey,

1040
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 3: on any football jersey, it looks like an oh.

1041
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 4: I like a double zero fine like Jamato, and I

1042
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 4: feel like it's a lignement only.

1043
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 3: That's fine, that's fine. I'm for double zero zero looks

1044
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 3: like the letter oh on a football uniform. It doesn't

1045
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 3: look like that on a basketball uniform.

1046
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 4: No.

1047
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's because of the size of it.

1048
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 3: My guess is just because the basketball uniform numerals are smaller,

1049
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 3: so it doesn't it doesn't seem quite as odd. But

1050
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 3: on a football uniform, it looks like the letter oh

1051
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 3: on the uniform. So it's glad. Like Elijah was like

1052
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 3: contemplating it, I'm glad that he that he stuck with eight.

1053
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 3: That's that's the best correct Yeah, that's the correct old

1054
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 3: miss number. Yeah, that's that's the correct way to do that,

1055
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,280
Speaker 3: all right. Coming up second hour of the program, included

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1057
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Speaker 4: Joined now by Browns tight end Jordan Aikins and Jordan's Fall.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the Cleveland Browns. Man.

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Speaker 6: I appreciate it, man, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 4: So let's talk about it. Hey, you got here this

1074
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 4: off season. Obviously you're familiarity with our quarterback DeShawn Watson.

1075
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 4: You guys had some success together down in Houston. What

1076
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 4: kind of was that process like for you, because you

1077
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 4: get to decide where you want to go as well

1078
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 4: as the teams that have interest how to kind of

1079
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 4: match up that you wanted to be a brown and

1080
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 4: the Browns wanted to hear as well.

1081
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 7: Well, you know, training in Houston and Deshaun trains in

1082
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 7: Houston as well, So we trained in the same facility actually,

1083
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 7: So one day going and you know we're training with

1084
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 7: training and some of the Texans players as me know

1085
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 7: if I'm going to sign back, and you know, Deshaun

1086
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 7: was like, yo, you know what I'm saying, you come

1087
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 7: to Cleveland. You know, Cleveland always an option, so you know,

1088
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 7: and previously before that, my agent was already talking to

1089
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 7: me about Cleveland. So you know, I kind of chopped

1090
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 7: it up with DeShawn and you know, got to feel

1091
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 7: for it, you know, and you know, me and DeShawn

1092
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 7: had chemistry, so you know, we just took it from there. Man,

1093
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 7: played it everybody ear day by day, and you know,

1094
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 7: God make some things happen.

1095
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 4: Coming off of a career year for yourself, right, career

1096
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 4: high and catches, yards and touchdowns, what do you think

1097
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 4: kind of helped click for you last year? And then

1098
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 4: now where do you think you can even take that

1099
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 4: now that you're back with your guy Deshan Watson.

1100
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 7: Just my experience, man, I've been playing this game for

1101
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 7: five years, well way longer than that, but professionally five years,

1102
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 7: and you know, just you know, on the field, I've

1103
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 7: always knew how to make you know, how to create separation,

1104
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 7: how to recoverage. It just was very difficult with you know,

1105
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 7: certain quarterbacks on quarterbacks, so you know last year, you know,

1106
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 7: we had ca Me and Mills had chemistry from the

1107
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 7: year before, and they kind of just let me spread

1108
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 7: my wings and you know, and we actually got to

1109
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 7: talk and communicate and get on one a quarter about routes.

1110
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,879
Speaker 7: So you know, he helped me out. I helped him out,

1111
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 7: and we helped the team out. We produced a lot.

1112
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 4: How happy here to be back with DeShawn.

1113
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 7: I am so uplifted, man. Deshaun is a great quarterback.

1114
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,760
Speaker 7: Plays never did nine times out of ten my plays

1115
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 7: from Deshaun came from scrambling, you know, thinking he's sack

1116
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 7: when I'm staying on him. Oh so, man, I'm very

1117
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 7: excited to be here.

1118
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 2: Man.

1119
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 7: Just the organization you can you know, it feels different,

1120
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 7: you know, the camera street of coaraderie, the coaches, everyone

1121
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 7: is like on one accord and I really appreciate them.

1122
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 4: So that's one thing you're gonna tell everybody about because

1123
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 4: people were not used to Deshaun Watson and the scramble drill.

1124
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 4: That's something that I know We're gonna do a lot

1125
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,919
Speaker 4: more of that. But you said it right, Every play

1126
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 4: is an opportunity, no matter what you think is happening.

1127
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 6: Definitely, man every play man.

1128
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 7: One play he rolled out, he got kicked in an

1129
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,919
Speaker 7: eye and through a laser beam for a touchdown. I've

1130
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 7: seen so much happen from Deshaun, but you know, he

1131
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 7: overrides adversity. He's a great quarterback. He is his IQ

1132
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 7: is unbelievable off the charts, and you know he definitely

1133
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 7: can lead his team to a championship.

1134
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 4: All right, so we're happy to have you here. But

1135
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 4: you mentioned been in the league for a little while. Now,

1136
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 4: let's go back to draft day because it's such an

1137
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 4: exciting time. You have a dream, you're able to achieve

1138
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 4: that dream. You hear your name called for you in

1139
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 4: the third round of the twenty eighteen draft. What was

1140
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:54,919
Speaker 4: that night like for you?

1141
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 5: Man?

1142
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:59,720
Speaker 7: It was surreal, man. I mean I was with my family.

1143
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 7: I didn't want no cameras. I didn't want many people

1144
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 7: around me. I had my daughter, had my niece and

1145
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 7: my brothers and it was it. We was just overwhelmed

1146
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 7: with emotion. You know, I played baseball. I was drafted

1147
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 7: out of high school third round, and you know it

1148
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 7: kind of didn't go my way. You know, I just

1149
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 7: prayed and leaned on it, and you know, some way.

1150
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 7: Guy led me back to the grid is and once

1151
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 7: you know, the second opportunity to present itself, and you know,

1152
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 7: we just was flooded with emotions.

1153
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 6: Man, my mom my, brothers. You know, we was.

1154
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 7: Crying, jumping, dancing, We had a great time. And you know,

1155
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 7: once you figured out we was going to Houston, was

1156
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:35,240
Speaker 7: very excited.

1157
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 4: So your journey, obviously is a unique one because you

1158
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 4: mentioned me, you're thirty one, you've been in the league

1159
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 4: five years, you were drafted, so obviously that explains the

1160
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 4: baseball path there. You can walk around here with a

1161
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 4: little bit of like, I'm an athlete. Guys, I've been

1162
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 4: drafted in two professional leagues. There aren't many people that

1163
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 4: can say that I'm this planet period. So that's pretty cool.

1164
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 4: So let's go back to your baseball career. What position

1165
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 4: did you play baseball?

1166
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 6: I was drafted as a center fielder.

1167
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 4: Before then we were a big center fielder.

1168
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 7: But actually, man, when I was eighteen, man, I was

1169
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 7: only six foot one seventy.

1170
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 6: Five and could fly around like a four fourth flat.

1171
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 6: I could fly.

1172
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 4: So when did you grow into the man you are now?

1173
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 6: Man?

1174
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 7: My dad is humongous. My uncles look refrigerators, they're huge.

1175
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 6: So you know, I always wondered when it would hit.

1176
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:23,280
Speaker 7: I'll say I was one seventy five, going high school,

1177
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 7: graduating high school, rookie year, I went up to one

1178
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 7: ninety two. Uh, the next year I was up to

1179
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 7: like two oh five. The next year I was up

1180
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 7: to like two fifteen. It's just kept going, kept going.

1181
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 7: So they're they're spassing. They're thinking like I'm not eating

1182
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 7: right or something's wrong with my body. Fats on like one.

1183
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 7: So you know, I started explaining to him like, look, man,

1184
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 7: my dad's huge. I'm probably gonna be a big boy.

1185
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 7: So other than that, man, I was a dressed as

1186
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 7: center fielder. And the bigger I got, the older I got,

1187
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 7: the stronger I got.

1188
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 6: They just moved me to right field.

1189
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 4: Your right fielder moved me to left field.

1190
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 7: Wherever the wherever the how you said the sky report went,

1191
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 7: wherever the most balls was it, That's where I would be.

1192
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:02,479
Speaker 6: So I'll just go and track the ball.

1193
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 4: You go from that. And then, as you said, that

1194
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 4: didn't work out the way that ultimately you wanted it to,

1195
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 4: and you're like, I'm gonna try my hand at football.

1196
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 4: So you go to UCF and play at such a

1197
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 4: high level. You were a third round pick in the

1198
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 4: NFL draft, and to be a third round pick and

1199
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 4: what were you twenty six.

1200
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 3: When you were drafted?

1201
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 4: Then, Okay, to get to be a third round pick

1202
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 4: of twenty six is astounding in its own right. So

1203
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 4: how did you kind of make that decision when we

1204
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 4: were like, you know what, I think I'm actually pretty

1205
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 4: good at this too.

1206
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 5: Well.

1207
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 7: My rookie year UCF, I barely touch on touch the

1208
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 7: field as a wide receiver.

1209
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 6: In college, I was a receiver, so I figured out.

1210
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 7: Like, man, I gotta get on this field. You know,

1211
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 7: I got to get on his field. So in high

1212
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 7: school I was a returner. I was a primate returner,

1213
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 7: kick off returner.

1214
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 6: Quarterback too, and wide receiver.

1215
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 7: So I said, you know what, let me play some

1216
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 7: SPS teams coach, So George o'laire was like, okay.

1217
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 6: One day, he was like, you know, I'm big, So

1218
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 6: he was like, you a little too big be back

1219
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 6: there returning. So he gave me a trial.

1220
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 7: You know, I call some balls. You know, baseball players

1221
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 7: our track the ball very well, and he was and

1222
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 7: he gave me a shot. In my first return, I

1223
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 7: think it was like seventy two yards against Penn State

1224
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 7: my first game back.

1225
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, we broke. We broke about two or three

1226
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 6: that game.

1227
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 4: So how did you get from that to a tight end? Uh?

1228
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 6: Ground my way up from that?

1229
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 7: The second year I was what was that twenty fifteen,

1230
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 7: I was a returner and a receiver. First game came out, Man,

1231
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 7: I think I want to say I had like two tudies,

1232
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 7: but then I tore al Okay, so.

1233
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 6: When I tore a cl you know, I said, and

1234
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 6: I recovered.

1235
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 7: I came back and coach Sean Beckton, who was the

1236
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 7: cornerback coach at time, converting to a wide sever coach.

1237
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 7: He told me said, look, so you know, it's a

1238
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 7: lot of money in this tight end. You know, it's

1239
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 7: a tight end spot and you could be a hybrid.

1240
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 7: You can create a lot of Mitch matches and you know,

1241
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 7: and in the space, we know what you can do.

1242
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 7: So you know, I just leaned on him, and you know,

1243
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:56,919
Speaker 7: throughout my recovery, you know, he taught me a lot

1244
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 7: as tight end and I took it from there.

1245
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 6: God's blessed me.

1246
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 4: Unbelievable story. That's awesome, by the way, And yeah, like

1247
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 4: I mean I've played outfield, I've played receiver, I've been

1248
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 4: a returner, and now you're There are many tight ends

1249
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 4: that have ever been returners at any point in their lives,

1250
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 4: maybe in peewee or something like that, but certainly not

1251
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 4: in college. And so here you are now, blocking, I

1252
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 4: imagine is probably the biggest adjustment for you, and you

1253
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 4: haven't even been doing that that long.

1254
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 6: No doubt, man, No doubt.

1255
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 4: Blocking is I just want to run around, Throw me

1256
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 4: the ball, Yeah, let me track it.

1257
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 6: Yeah. Blocking is definitely a different breed man.

1258
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 7: It's a mindset, it's a want twist effort, and you

1259
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 7: definitely got to put on some pounds for that.

1260
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 6: So you know, I put on some pounds, man.

1261
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 7: I am about about two forty five, you know, two

1262
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 7: fifty range from there during the season, and now I

1263
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 7: put my cleasing and ground.

1264
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 6: I do what I gotta do for my team.

1265
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 4: How excited are you coming to an offense where you

1266
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 4: know they love tight ends? Here Kem's fancy absolutely loves

1267
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 4: the tight end position. You'll have two of them out

1268
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 4: there a lot, you'll have three of them, And I

1269
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 4: know our offense is gonna evolve with the Sean and

1270
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 4: maybe a little more eleven. But there's always roles for

1271
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 4: the tight ends and guys that can create mismatches in

1272
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 4: space like you for sure.

1273
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 7: Man, it's on there man, Like I've been been playing

1274
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 7: against you guys from on time, you know, the Browns,

1275
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 7: And that's one thing we always say, as the tight

1276
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 7: ends in Houston were like, man, if we could just

1277
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 7: get some of these screens, if we could just you know,

1278
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 7: open up like they could, if they use us like

1279
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 7: the Cleveland use their tight ends, it'll be awesome.

1280
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 6: Man.

1281
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 7: I mean, like I remember watching like Hooper and the

1282
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 7: Joeku and even Harrison. Man, like some of the ross

1283
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 7: they run, they stretched the field, they shut it down.

1284
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 6: Seems sick. You know.

1285
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 7: You get to read the leverage of the defender. I

1286
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 7: didn't I when I was in Houston.

1287
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 6: I was only.

1288
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 7: Labeled as like flat sticks, you know, I have I

1289
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 7: have speed, but they wouldn't let me take the top off,

1290
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 7: you know.

1291
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 6: So it's like it's like just the freedom.

1292
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 5: Man.

1293
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 7: It's just like Shaq was being you know, released from

1294
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 7: me and just being able to showcase my talent. That's

1295
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 7: all I want to do and thankful from last year,

1296
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 7: you know. Coach Lovely Smith you know, believing the men

1297
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 7: and give me the opportunity and you know, to showcase

1298
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 7: my talent, and God blessed me.

1299
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 6: And now I'm back with the Shaun and we are

1300
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 6: ready to get the thing rolling.

1301
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 4: He believes in you too, and I think all the

1302
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 4: Browns fans will as well. Awesome, great to meet you,

1303
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 4: welcome to the Browns. Amazing story and can't wait to

1304
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 4: see out there on the field making place.

1305
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 6: I appreciate you having me, man, I appreciate everything.

1306
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Speaker 4: You think you can be a little bit of a

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Speaker 4: sleeper weapon. Absolutely, Deshaun mikes feeling right. He's already looked

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Speaker 4: very good and talking to some of the coaches. They

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Speaker 4: are impressed. And again this is all on air, but

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Speaker 4: you can just see the way the guy moves away,

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Speaker 4: he runs routes, the speed that he has. I think

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Speaker 4: that that is a definitely under the radar pickup. And listen,

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Speaker 4: he's the guy that set everything in motion, right. He

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01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 4: catches the touchdown, he catches the two point conversion to

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Speaker 4: knock the Houston Texans out of the number one overall

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Speaker 4: pick on a fourth and twenty. He from Davis Mills.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, he's got some speed. He had some success

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Speaker 4: with Deshaun Watson in Houston together they know each other.

1319
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 4: Crazy story, such a good baseball player goes that route, drafted,

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Speaker 4: ends up, you know, going back to college is a

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Speaker 4: twenty six year old rookie and is still a third

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Speaker 4: round pick. I mean that's incredible to me. And so yeah,

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Speaker 4: good move. Tight end can catch the football and I

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Speaker 4: think absolutely will be away. And you know, we're gonna

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Speaker 4: do a lot more eleven personnel this year, but we're

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Speaker 4: still going to have stuff from under center with two

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Speaker 4: tight ends and with Aikens and Adjoku and then Amari

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Speaker 4: and DPJ or a Mari and Elijah Moore, DPJ and

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Speaker 4: Elijah Moore, we're gonna be able to create a lot

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Speaker 4: of mismatches or even put good one out there in

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01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 4: some of those twelve personnel looks to just take the

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Speaker 4: top off the defense. We have so many things that

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Speaker 4: we're gonna be able to do. But yes, long story short,

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Speaker 4: the question you asked. I do think Jordan Akins has

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Speaker 4: an opportunity to be a very nice weapon for the

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Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns and to be somebody that becomes, you know,

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Speaker 4: a mismatch for us in some of those heavier personnel groupings.

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Speaker 3: Gonna be fun, gonna be fun over once we get

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01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 3: to where we can get into mini camp and see, yeah,

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Speaker 3: a little bit of.

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Speaker 4: It even in the OTAs. We'll have a media day

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Speaker 4: each every week and we'll have you know, that'll be

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01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 4: offense defense. You'll get a real look, you'll get a

1344
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 4: little bit of a look exactly, and so I think

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Speaker 4: that it will be that'll be a lot of fun

1346
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 4: to get to see that.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 3: Coming up next could be a major changing of the

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Speaker 3: guard in the media industry. We get to that coming

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Speaker 3: the fan club for dogs. Can I uh one one

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Speaker 3: beef that I have here with the endisclosed location. I've

1361
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 3: never understood.

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Speaker 2: These napkins on the end of a no idea on

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01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 2: couches and chairs.

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01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 3: And when we at the furniture store and I'd go

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01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 3: in there and you put you have these things and

1366
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 3: you put them on and then you deliver it, and

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Speaker 3: the what would you call these?

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Speaker 5: Like what is this?

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Speaker 3: I think you have his napkin for furniture that is

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01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 3: like an arm rest cover, So an armrest cover. My

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01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 3: issue with it was, who wouldever, like, how long do

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Speaker 3: you really want this to last? That you're preserving these armrests?

1373
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 4: Right?

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01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 3: Twenty years? Like it's two decades, two decades from now

1375
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 3: we're doing CBD in the undisclosed location for the latest renovations.

1376
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 3: Are we gonna be like, oh, thank god we had

1377
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 3: those napkins on the arm rest the chairs still work well.

1378
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Speaker 4: And what what's it? Protecting its oil their forearms is

1379
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 4: but I'm saying, like, because there's oils in your forearms

1380
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Speaker 4: or they're putting a drink up there.

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Speaker 3: No, no, I want this, Why what's the what's the point?

1382
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 2: Get rid of it?

1383
01:04:57,840 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 5: Rid of it?

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01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 3: Come on, come on, this is pretty uh this is

1385
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 3: now it's has this been further confirmed that the March.

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Speaker 4: Chefter would tweet it about it today.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well there you go. So Pat McAfee appears to

1388
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 3: be heading two espns. So it's not that long ago,

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Speaker 3: within the last year or so where McAfee landed that

1390
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Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty million dollar fan dual deal.

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Speaker 5: So the March updates are from two hours ago that

1392
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 5: are in your no, so this is it? Okay, So.

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01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 3: McAfee now could be walking away from that one hundred

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01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 3: and twenty million dollar fan dual deal. He's in the

1395
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 3: midst of a second of the four year contract. McFee

1396
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 3: just became a father of a baby girl's talked about

1397
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 3: reducing the behind the scenes work that running your own

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01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 3: company and show entails. I don't blame him there. The

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01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:48,439
Speaker 3: exact amount of money McAfee will earn in this new deal,

1400
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 3: which potentially sounds like it's going to be ESPN, it's

1401
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 3: not to be expected to be eight figures per year,

1402
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 3: maybe less than the thirty million dollars a year fan

1403
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:59,919
Speaker 3: duel deal is potentially walking away from whatever the number,

1404
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 3: as it comes at a time when Disney is shedding

1405
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 3: a bunch of jobs. Difficult optics for those at the

1406
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 3: company if the deals goes through. Here's the reality of it.

1407
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 3: And this is when anybody complains about stephen A and

1408
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 3: how much he makes, I'm quick to point out that

1409
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 3: is one man who is a content producing machine. And

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01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 3: the fact that he could be on what's his show

1411
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 3: as at first take, he can do first take with

1412
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 3: him Molly and fill in the blake whether it's Russo

1413
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 3: or whoever, and they can argue for two hours and

1414
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 3: fill two hours of time. And then he can go

1415
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 3: on Countdown and do two hours of a pregame and halftime,

1416
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 3: and you can go on Sports Center and do a

1417
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 3: fifteen minute hit. He does a radio show, and he

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01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 3: does a podcast. He does all this stuff where we

1419
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 3: compared to in the old days where people always pine

1420
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 3: for like Sports Center and all of that. Do you

1421
01:06:56,120 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 3: know how much money it costs to do stories anytime

1422
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 3: a network like Real Sports or ESPN, like with the

1423
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 3: East sixty stuff. Okay, those are vanity plays, man, Those are.

1424
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 4: Not profit Oh no, probably cost a lot of those.

1425
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 3: Are lost leaders, Ye, absolute loss leaders. When do you

1426
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 3: think about how expensive that stuff is to produce? So

1427
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 3: what's Pat McAfee. He is a one man content machine.

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01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 3: They can put him on in the middle of the

1429
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 3: day with his show for two hours if they want.

1430
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 3: They'll podcast his show and it's one of the biggest

1431
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 3: podcasted shows. They'll put him on College Game Day where

1432
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 3: he rejuvenated that show. He was a shot in the

1433
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 3: arm for College Game Day Bigley. Yeah, you can tell

1434
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 3: that at the very first week last year he became

1435
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 3: a regular. They can do the they did the they

1436
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 3: had him do, like the Peyton Manning version of college

1437
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 3: football with his guys on the sidelines. Yeah, and they

1438
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 3: also did it from his studio. That wasn't as good

1439
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,959
Speaker 3: as the Manning. It was just too wide. It wasn't

1440
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 3: as it needs to tighten up. But just think about that.

1441
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 3: I mean, so here's you're talking about cutting all these jobs.

1442
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 3: It's a bad look obviously, but a lot of those

1443
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 3: jobs are they're not producing five hours of content today.

1444
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 4: Here's my thing. McFee just did all the things you

1445
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 4: talked about. But I like the fact that he is

1446
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 4: running his own show. All of a sudden, you go

1447
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 4: to ESPN and you're falling under the Disney umbrella. There's

1448
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 4: a lot of stuff on his show that is.

1449
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 5: That podcast will change, especially.

1450
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 4: If free he is, he's free to say whatever he wants,

1451
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 4: free to use profanity when he wants. They have some

1452
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 4: edgy content. I like that.

1453
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 3: Didn't you think they would have to keep that? It's Disney,

1454
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 3: you don't doesn't give to Deadpool. Yes, but you don't

1455
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 3: get to do It's different. I think it's very different.

1456
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 3: When and I said that, I don't know if I

1457
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 3: know he's Marvel, but I don't know if they own

1458
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:53,680
Speaker 3: him or not.

1459
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Speaker 4: Stand by my point?

1460
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 3: Is I get your point? Does he have to play

1461
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 3: down rules or.

1462
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 2: Is he allowed to?

1463
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 3: You know, because like when Simmons had his podcast on ESPN,

1464
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 3: like the Open would say occasionally touches on mature subject matter,

1465
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 3: Viewer discutched discrete listeners.

1466
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 5: As part of Disney's acquisition of Fox assets, the company

1467
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 5: took over Fox Movie Studio, which controls limited Marvel ip

1468
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 5: including X Men, Fantastic Four, in Deadpool. There you go,

1469
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Speaker 5: good job.

1470
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Speaker 3: So you know, I think if you're McAfee, you have

1471
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:28,599
Speaker 3: got to protect what that show is. But I also

1472
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 3: understand from his perspective, like he's already made all the money,

1473
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 3: so let's say he made if he's finishes two years

1474
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 3: of the deal, he's made sixty million, so his cut

1475
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 3: of that, let's say, is thirty by the time he

1476
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 3: pays everything else out and everything else, And now he's

1477
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 3: looking at all, Right, I don't have to manage people.

1478
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 3: I don't have to do payroll. All he canna do

1479
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 3: is my show and I.

1480
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:50,879
Speaker 5: Show up, I come into work, and I leave.

1481
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 3: And I do twelve million, and they'll do it at

1482
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 3: his place.

1483
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 4: Part of what I think is also cool about him

1484
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:57,799
Speaker 4: running his own shows. He's able to reward his guys.

1485
01:09:57,880 --> 01:09:59,680
Speaker 4: He's such a great guy.

1486
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 5: I think they're all in the article.

1487
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 3: At some point though, ESPN is going to say this

1488
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 3: guy is not worth this much. So that's what happened

1489
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:10,719
Speaker 3: to Levattard. Yeah, and then that's what led to his divorce.

1490
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:16,639
Speaker 3: Was they tried was it kid Greg Cody's kid, who's

1491
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,759
Speaker 3: a columnist with the Miami Herald. They tried eliminating his kid,

1492
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 3: and Dan got pissed off about that, among other things

1493
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 3: than trying to stifle what he said. So for so

1494
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 3: that's my point. So that's a perfect example. That's the

1495
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 3: doppelganger of it is and.

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01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 4: He was not happy there. I know a lot of

1497
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 4: people I've spent have been very fortunate, spent a ton

1498
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 4: of time with the great Dan Patrick. Did not like

1499
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:43,639
Speaker 4: their yoke. It's a yoke situation. He is yokes right now.

1500
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 4: He has he can do what he wants. He can

1501
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 4: do w w E when he wants to w w E,

1502
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 4: he can do.

1503
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 3: But what's making him stop esp? What would make him

1504
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 3: not want to do that? Why would he take less

1505
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:57,679
Speaker 3: to take on the yoke.

1506
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 4: Because he obviously is a levy eating some other responsibilities

1507
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:03,559
Speaker 4: that he currently has. But if I was, I would

1508
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:07,719
Speaker 4: say Streamlin Wyban, delegate that to other people.

1509
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 3: It's possibly just good at too much stuff when it

1510
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 3: comes to Internet, you know his of content, because he's

1511
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 3: damn good on WWE.

1512
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 4: He's great at WWE.

1513
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 3: He's great on that, he's great on the college football,

1514
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 3: he's great on his own show. Like he just might

1515
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 3: be too good at everything. You know what I mean? Yes,

1516
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 3: I with you, Like it would be hard for me

1517
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 3: to give up what I had built. I would probably

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Speaker 3: just I'd probably do what you said. I would find

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01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 3: somebody to manage the stuff that I find inconvenient. Unless

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01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 3: he's worried about a fan duel disappearing five years from

1521
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 3: now or DraftKings or whatever whatever it is. Yeah, but

1522
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 3: I mean, so what, you've made one hundred and twenty

1523
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 3: million over four years. Yeah, yeah, you're done.

1524
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:50,640
Speaker 4: And he's making money from the WWE.

1525
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's making money for He's got a bunch

1526
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 3: of revenue streams right now.

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01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1528
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it must be a good reason to do it.

1529
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 5: I don't know, walk away with two years left.

1530
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 3: That's obvious, Like, wow, obviously he's got there's more to

1531
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 3: it in terms of what he's dealing with behind the

1532
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,760
Speaker 3: scenes that's forcing him to even look into all this

1533
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:13,839
Speaker 3: or uncertainty somewhere.

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01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 5: It's got to be. There's just no, we don't know

1535
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 5: the full picture.

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01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 4: Correct. Think that's probably fair.

1537
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:20,640
Speaker 3: There's no way for us too.

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01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:26,480
Speaker 4: I just don't. I I like him because he's so him.

1539
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 3: I think it's critical that his here's the other thing

1540
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 3: about him. He's great. But like Rogers put that on

1541
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 3: the map, Rogers coming on that show every exclusively every Tuesday,

1542
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 3: launched it new heights, new level, that's game record.

1543
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, because what are they gonna do? What are they

1544
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:52,639
Speaker 5: gonna do with your boy AJ? What are they gonna

1545
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 5: do with AJ? What's ESPN doing with AJ? Well, he's

1546
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 5: sitting there just smoking his stoke. Are they going to

1547
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:00,559
Speaker 5: pay him six figures to smoke his stoke? You on there?

1548
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 3: I don't know, great question, I can text him.

1549
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 4: My guess is the leverage that McFee has. He says,

1550
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 4: this is what everybody getting paid, and that will be

1551
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 4: true at the beginning. My question is how long does

1552
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 4: that remain true?

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01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 2: Well what and how long is his show? Is it

1555
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 2: two hours?

1556
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:15,760
Speaker 4: I think so?

1557
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like one to three or is it noon

1558
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 3: to two or something like that.

1559
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:22,440
Speaker 4: It's often while we're on Yeah.

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01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, because I talked to his producers all the

1561
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 5: time about getting him on. Yeah, twelve to three ish.

1562
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 3: Okay, so three hours is the show. So think what

1563
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 3: that block would do for ESPN's daily programming. If that

1564
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:36,679
Speaker 3: was on every day, you didn't have to worry about

1565
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 3: it and never deal with it like that's just there.

1566
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:43,760
Speaker 3: There's tremendous value for that for them. All right, ap

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01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 3: will join us next. We'll try it to put him

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01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:46,760
Speaker 3: in a body bag. We'll do a little bit of

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01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 3: higher or lower. You listen to Cleveland Browns Daily, brought

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Speaker 3: to you by Bally Bett coming soon to IIOWA eight

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Speaker 3: fifty esp in Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bouley Back coming

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Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in to Cleveland Brown's Daily on

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01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 3: a fifty ESPN Cleveland. As we what happened here?

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01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 5: Gibe? What did you do?

1577
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 4: Ray?

1578
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 3: Yah? So, I don't know what happened here? I just

1579
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 3: lost the show run down.

1580
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 5: You need me to send it to you again.

1581
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 3: It just disappeared. Did I accidentally delete?

1582
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Speaker 5: I don't know.

1583
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 3: Ah, yes I did.

1584
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Speaker 5: There it is.

1585
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 3: I know it's next. I know that I know that

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01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 3: Ape's here. I know that we don't want to put

1587
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 3: him in a body bag, and I know that it's

1588
01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:01,080
Speaker 3: time for a little high or lower and we're uh,

1589
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:02,719
Speaker 3: I know we're gonna go on the Twisted Tea Hotline,

1590
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 3: brought to you by Twisty hard I Seed, official sponsor of

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01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 3: your Cleveland Browns Keep it Twisted Cleveland for a little Higher, Lower, better, worse,

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Speaker 3: Presented by your friends at the Ohio Lottery.

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Speaker 8: Hello, ap, Hello, guys, how are you doing.

1594
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:18,679
Speaker 3: We're in the end of Slow's location. The sun is out.

1595
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:20,720
Speaker 4: It's wonderful. It's wonderful. Toys out.

1596
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 9: How did you hit him on Saturday? Oh the birthday boy? Yeah,

1597
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:27,679
Speaker 9: played quite nicely at the Valley of the Eagles Ape's

1598
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 9: birthday last week. Yeah, yep, ap.

1599
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 5: What are you pretty?

1600
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 3: Are you liked?

1601
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 2: Are you probably like? What are you like?

1602
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 3: Twenty six?

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01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 8: I'm twenty five?

1604
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:40,679
Speaker 2: Suck whatever?

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01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 4: No? No, no, no, you're young. What did they shoot? What

1606
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:46,639
Speaker 4: do you shoot for the birthday round?

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01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 10: I shot a ninety two and it was a forty

1608
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 10: nine on the front and then turned it around pretty

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01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 10: nicely on the back for a forty one. And had

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Speaker 10: two birthdays one including one on eighteen.

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01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:02,759
Speaker 3: Good job, about a year walk away happy?

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01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 5: And I was. I was pretty happy with the forty

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01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 5: eight on the front nine, and I went the opposite

1614
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 5: way on the back nine.

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01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 3: What a wonderful time I've ever been out there? How

1616
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 3: is that?

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01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 8: Uh?

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01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:13,759
Speaker 4: Good?

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01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:15,639
Speaker 5: It used to be like I think it was called

1620
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 5: Spring Valley Country Club in Ollyria, and it was like

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01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:21,639
Speaker 5: all exclusive and private, and then they went semi private

1622
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 5: and they kind of ruined it. The people ran into

1623
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 5: the ground, and then a new group of investors and

1624
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 5: Jack Nicholas came in and spent five years basically tearing

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01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 5: it up and redoing it. And uh, it's it's an

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01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 5: it's a nice course. There are there there are some

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01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 5: there's weird things like they construction wise, they bulldozed certain

1628
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:49,760
Speaker 5: parts and there's still some debris like in in on

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01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 5: like the hillsides and whatnot. Poison got his foot stuck in.

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01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 5: We almost had to like poisl almost snapped his leg off?

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01:16:58,600 --> 01:16:59,560
Speaker 3: Did we have to amputate?

1632
01:16:59,600 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 4: Almost?

1633
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 5: We thought he was joking and then we're like, oh

1634
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:04,639
Speaker 5: my god, Yellowstone and I had to go get him.

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01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:05,679
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 8: Yeah.

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01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 10: Unfortunately, got stuck in a hole that probably went about

1638
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:12,680
Speaker 10: like midway up my leg, like deft me to the

1639
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 10: top of my shin and it could.

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01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:22,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was just off the green. I was like, wow,

1641
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 5: this is a little tough. But the course itself, it's great.

1642
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:28,760
Speaker 5: It's one of the crown jewels on the west side

1643
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 5: of Cleveland. All right, so let's uh, let's let's play

1644
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 5: a little higher or lower, gentlemen. It's presented by our

1645
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Speaker 5: great friends at the Ohio Lottery, cbssports dot Com and

1646
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 5: Cody Benjamin. I feel like we should just call him

1647
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 5: a contributor at this point. Oh right. Uh. The NFL

1648
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 5: offseason grades, ranking all thirty two teams for their draft picks,

1649
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:57,559
Speaker 5: free agency moves, trades, and more. So, what we're asking

1650
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:01,800
Speaker 5: today he should the following team's grades be higher or lower.

1651
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 4: Ballis hit it higher or lower?

1652
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 5: All right, So he's given seven teams, eight teams in

1653
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:18,600
Speaker 5: a grade, including the Giants, Broncos, Steelers, Eagles, Bears, Panthers, Jets,

1654
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 5: and the number one team in his power rankings for

1655
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 5: the off season work that they've done. This is ranking

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01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 5: on the off season that they The Detroit Lions are

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01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 5: number one. Poisl Should they be lower or are they

1658
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 5: just right? Since you can't go any higher?

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01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 10: I think I think I'm fine with them being an A,

1660
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:43,599
Speaker 10: but I'd say they're like more of like a fringe,

1661
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 10: like an A minus. I just think the way they

1662
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 10: executed their draft was a little puzzling, and while they

1663
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:52,880
Speaker 10: still probably got good players from it, I just don't

1664
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 10: know if I agree with spending two first round picks

1665
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 10: on a running back and a linebacker in the first round.

1666
01:18:58,280 --> 01:18:59,679
Speaker 10: But I thought maybe they could have done a little

1667
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 10: bit better there. But you know, they still made some

1668
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 10: really big additions to the defense. You know, they got

1669
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 10: Cam Sutton Emmanuel Moseley at cornerback and now they've got

1670
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:09,600
Speaker 10: d J. Gardner Johnson for safety too. And you know,

1671
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 10: the defense was always what they needed to attack the

1672
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 10: most this offseason, and I think they've done that. So

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01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 10: I think you can still give them an A minus

1674
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 10: for that regard. I just think the things stopped from

1675
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 10: from getting a full A is just the draft was

1676
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:22,599
Speaker 10: just a little puzzling. I thought they could have done

1677
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 10: a little bit better there.

1678
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 5: I believe mister Bishop would disagree with you and Zigura

1679
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 5: it's not even your turn, but.

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01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:33,839
Speaker 3: No, Bishop, First, they had a very nice off season

1681
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:38,320
Speaker 3: and they blew it in the draft. That's it. They

1682
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:40,760
Speaker 3: and they had a fine draft. It's fine, but it's not.

1683
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 3: It's not a smart draft in anyway, shape or form.

1684
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 3: The idea to take a running back of the in

1685
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 3: an off ball linebacker when they took an off ball linebacker.

1686
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 3: Can you the what ifs that what they could have

1687
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:50,960
Speaker 3: done versus what they did?

1688
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:54,719
Speaker 5: And should this wide receiver being suspended for gambling count

1689
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:55,760
Speaker 5: and against.

1690
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 3: I'm also gonna just say this there I think there

1691
01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 3: are for me. I don't know if I stepping I

1692
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 3: don't want to step too much on what you got.

1693
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 5: Going on here.

1694
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 3: Give me, let me just make sure second address either

1695
01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 3: one of these teams in your thing. So let's just

1696
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 3: say this, the number one on this has got to

1697
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:18,639
Speaker 3: be one of two the Jets who got Aaron Blincoln,

1698
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:21,200
Speaker 3: Rodgers or Philly Yep.

1699
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 5: Correct, that has to be one that's.

1700
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 2: Hey, I don't care which one you pick.

1701
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 3: One of them's number one.

1702
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 4: One of those two, yep. And I would even go

1703
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:30,840
Speaker 4: a step further and I'd say one of the other ones.

1704
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 4: Would I think you'd have to say the Broncos getting

1705
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:36,479
Speaker 4: Sean Payton. I feel like that is a great off season.

1706
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, so to me, if you

1707
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 4: have an a off season, I feel better about your

1708
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:46,439
Speaker 4: team now than I did at the end of last season. Correct.

1709
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 4: And so for the Eagles, I feel like I still

1710
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 4: thought they were the favorite to win the NFC. I

1711
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:53,559
Speaker 4: still do. But what they did in the way that

1712
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:55,800
Speaker 4: they maneuvered in the draft, the way that they have

1713
01:20:56,640 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 4: kind of got their money around incredible. I don't feel

1714
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 4: feel any better about the Lions right now than I

1715
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 4: did at the end of last season. In fact, I

1716
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 4: feel like no Jamison Williams for six games is a

1717
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 4: big bummer in curmins of what I thought they were

1718
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 4: going to be. So yeah, it's great that they got

1719
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:16,919
Speaker 4: David Montgomery and Jamior Gibbs, but they also had DeAndre

1720
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 4: Swift and Jamal Williams, who, oh, by the way, led

1721
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 4: the NFL in rushing touchdowns a year ago. Yeah, the

1722
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:25,280
Speaker 4: fact that they got a couple of corners were good, great, grand, wonderful.

1723
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 4: I don't but I don't feel any different about them.

1724
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 5: I don't know if they improved or the NFC North

1725
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 5: got worse in general, And.

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01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:33,760
Speaker 4: Four picks out of the first thirty one of this

1727
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:36,800
Speaker 4: year's NFL drafts were used at non premium positions and

1728
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 4: they made two of them.

1729
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 3: That's right, So no next higher core lower.

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01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 5: Also given the grade of A, the Carolina Panthers at

1731
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 5: number three. I don't know why you drafted a quarterback

1732
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 5: and is that good enough to get you in A

1733
01:21:57,080 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 5: I guess so in this guy's rankings. Uh ze, girl, just.

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01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 4: Look, I think they're happy to have Frank Reich as

1735
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:04,400
Speaker 4: the coach, so I think that probably I'll give you

1736
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 4: that one too. You made an aggressive move to get

1737
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 4: a franchise quarterback, and so that is an a move.

1738
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 4: Does it pan out? But at least it says I'm

1739
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 4: a serious team. I'm not like the Falcons who drafted

1740
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 4: a running back eighth overall and I'm going out there

1741
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 4: with Desmond Renters. So I think, yes, good move. But

1742
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 4: I think the team that actually won the most in

1743
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 4: that entire exchange was the Bears. I think the Bears

1744
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:30,639
Speaker 4: set themselves up to be phenomenally good, getting Dj Moore,

1745
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 4: getting the extra one, building things for Justin Fields. I

1746
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 4: love what the Bears did more than I loved what

1747
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 4: the Panthers did.

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01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:40,760
Speaker 5: No pun intended ap lower or just right for the

1749
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 5: third ranked Carolina Panthers offseason.

1750
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:46,559
Speaker 10: Yeah, I agree with everything the guard just said. I

1751
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:48,880
Speaker 10: think the the one move where I would also still

1752
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:50,639
Speaker 10: maybe kind of pause a little bit is just that

1753
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:52,719
Speaker 10: you know, they replaced Dj Moore, who they traded away

1754
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 10: with Adam Feelin who I mean.

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01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:55,679
Speaker 8: Who knows.

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01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 10: Maybe he'll have a good season next year, but come

1757
01:22:57,800 --> 01:22:59,320
Speaker 10: out to have to look at the fact that this

1758
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:00,760
Speaker 10: is going to be the first time that he's going

1759
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:02,559
Speaker 10: to be a number one receiver in an offense with

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01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 10: a rookie QB.

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01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 3: To he'sast, He's seven hundred yards the last couple of years.

1762
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 4: He can't run it.

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01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:11,600
Speaker 10: He can't say he's not number one exactly.

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01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 8: I'm not high on him, you know.

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01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:15,559
Speaker 10: But they did check off your top priority in getting

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01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:16,679
Speaker 10: a QB, so we'll see.

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01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 8: I don't I don't know. If it's Warranton A, it

1768
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:19,759
Speaker 8: probably would.

1769
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 10: Have given him, but just a B because of the what.

1770
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:22,679
Speaker 8: They did at wide receiver.

1771
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:24,759
Speaker 10: But I understand that what they did at wide receiver

1772
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:26,799
Speaker 10: and trading DJ Moore was how they got the QB.

1773
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 8: So I don't know.

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01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 10: I'm fine with the B.

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01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 8: I think I think it'd be is probably where they

1776
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:31,840
Speaker 8: should be.

1777
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 4: If they got an A, they got to A, so

1778
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 4: low next higher lower.

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01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 5: All right, this one simply for bo because Sigura just

1780
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 5: talked about Chicago a little bit. The Chicago Bears at

1781
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 5: number four lower or just right with an A grade.

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01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 5: Mister bishop Man.

1783
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:54,639
Speaker 2: Can you imagine if they don't trade for Claypool, that clown.

1784
01:23:54,880 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 3: Just imagine. Let's imagine if they just stuck it, stayed

1785
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:04,759
Speaker 3: where they were, did this haul. I would have them

1786
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 3: just below I like what you did with Denver. I

1787
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:10,560
Speaker 3: would have them just below the Jets and the Eagles.

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01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 3: I think that they are absolutely in a I think

1789
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:15,559
Speaker 3: it's a top five offseason. I think they they had

1790
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 3: a ton of money to spend. I think they spent

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01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:20,559
Speaker 3: it pretty wisely. I think Dj Moore is an absolute

1792
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 3: game changer for fields. So this is this is where

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01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 3: they ought to be. I could have them fourth, fifth, whatever,

1794
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:29,120
Speaker 3: but somewhere in this range, I think they're bet a

1795
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 3: better offseason A Lions.

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01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:37,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, next same, higher or lower? Uh. They have the

1797
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 5: Pukers at number six within a grade. Patrick Peterson, why

1798
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 5: play consolation prize? He should thrive.

1799
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they just gave the Lions for getting Cam

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01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 3: Sutton who was a Steeler.

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01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 5: Yeah. They also netted some good values in the draft,

1802
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:56,720
Speaker 5: which okay.

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01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:57,160
Speaker 3: Okay, great?

1804
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:00,439
Speaker 5: Uh lower just right out?

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01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:04,479
Speaker 8: Uh No, I would have them at probably a B.

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01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 10: I think they're getting an A just because everybody's riding

1807
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:09,640
Speaker 10: the hype of their draft class right now. But we

1808
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 10: won't really know of all the players that they picked,

1809
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:13,720
Speaker 10: and they're saying it's a great draft class, but we're

1810
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 10: not going to really know until midway or the end

1811
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 10: of the season if how good those picks are is

1812
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 10: what it means for next year.

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01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:21,760
Speaker 8: So I would say a BE. I mean, Patrick Peterson's

1814
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 8: a great pick up.

1815
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 10: You know, Isaac Somalia, the guard they picked up also good.

1816
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:27,040
Speaker 8: But you know, there's there's still a rash that's got

1817
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:27,640
Speaker 8: other holes in it.

1818
01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 2: So I don't know if it's an A grade Bishop, yes, sir,

1819
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:35,639
Speaker 2: is canny pick. It's still the quarterback.

1820
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 5: That's where I was going next.

1821
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:39,600
Speaker 3: Okay, So if that's the case, then he can't be

1822
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:42,320
Speaker 3: an A. In a really nice draft they always draft. Well,

1823
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 3: it's a nice draft. You know, Joey Porter June is

1824
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 3: gonna be a nice player. I love the Washington kid

1825
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 3: out of Georgia, like Bowers got all the attention to

1826
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 3: Georgia because he's kind of there. He's a dude. But

1827
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:56,479
Speaker 3: Washington is ridiculous frame to work with. So I love that.

1828
01:25:57,240 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 3: But but it's still pretty limiting. I don't see anything

1829
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 3: that makes me think this is. To me, if you

1830
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 3: have an A, it should change your standing from where

1831
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:09,760
Speaker 3: you were a year previously. To me, they have not. No,

1832
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 3: they outshot their skis last year. I don't think they

1833
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:16,160
Speaker 3: will this year. So no, I know, not an A.

1834
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:19,760
Speaker 4: Next Lowers three lower.

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01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:23,120
Speaker 5: All right, we're up against it. We got two minutes, ze, girl,

1836
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 5: have you do this? One Number eleven getting a B

1837
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 5: for their off season. The Cincinnati Bengals higher lower or

1838
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 5: just right.

1839
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 4: I mean I like that they got Orlando Brown junior. Yeah,

1840
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:39,439
Speaker 4: that's great, but they lost three quarters of their starting secondary,

1841
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:43,320
Speaker 4: which was pretty good, including both starting safeties. I mean,

1842
01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 4: I think they are fine. I think I feel about

1843
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 4: them the same as I did before. We'll see what

1844
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 4: they end up doing at running back, but I feel

1845
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 4: similarly about them as I did before. It's it's just wild,

1846
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 4: and I know we're out of time, so I'm gonna

1847
01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:55,720
Speaker 4: go quick. But looking down like the Ravens being at

1848
01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:58,639
Speaker 4: twenty six, that's I got Bois out doing that, Okay,

1849
01:26:58,640 --> 01:26:59,600
Speaker 4: all right? Fine to me?

1850
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:01,160
Speaker 3: This crazy?

1851
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 5: Yeah next higher lower, Bishop, the Brownies at number seventeen,

1852
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 5: higher lower or just right.

1853
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 3: Look, so you're telling me that this is a essentially

1854
01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:20,600
Speaker 3: they're saying this is a s'or eighteen. So this is

1855
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 3: a C off season for us, is what they're saying.

1856
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 3: You can I'll just say this, but if you're going

1857
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:30,000
Speaker 3: to have us, if you're going to say that, you

1858
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 3: also have to consider where we were picking and how

1859
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:36,600
Speaker 3: what we had to work with from a financial standpoint,

1860
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 3: And if you put those two things and put that

1861
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 3: as part of your grading system. To me, this is

1862
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 3: an A off season or a B plus off season

1863
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 3: or a minus offseason. I think you accomplished most of

1864
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 3: what you wanted to accomplished, all in a very tight parameter.

1865
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:55,480
Speaker 2: This is we should be much higher.

1866
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:55,800
Speaker 3: On this list.

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01:27:56,960 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, on exactly, next, be better, higher, core, lower,

1868
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:06,479
Speaker 5: and the final one uh Zigar alluded to an ap

1869
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:10,680
Speaker 5: the Ravens at number twenty six higher, lower, just right,

1870
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:12,519
Speaker 5: and they end up with a C.

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01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:14,559
Speaker 3: This is yeah, no.

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01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:17,800
Speaker 10: Twenty six and a C grade here, Just that's too low.

1873
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 10: You know, they re signed Lamar after when they started

1874
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 10: the offseason with him putting in a trade request. It

1875
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 10: just still holes on the roster. And when you look

1876
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 10: at their defense, right, they lost Marcus Peters, lost Kalais Campbell.

1877
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 10: Those are two big time playmakers they have back there

1878
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:33,120
Speaker 10: that they haven't replaced yet. But you know, they did

1879
01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 10: resign their franchise quarterback and they did give him probably

1880
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:39,080
Speaker 10: his best receiving cast at that he's going to have

1881
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:41,760
Speaker 10: in his time in the NFL. So yes, I think

1882
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 10: a trade is way too harsh.

1883
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:45,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, at the end of the day, the Falcons are

1884
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 5: ahead of both these teams and they don't have a quarterback.

1885
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 5: I don't care how many weapons you have. You don't

1886
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 5: have a quarterback.

1887
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 3: Drink the ball, running back eight overall.

1888
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:54,200
Speaker 5: And they also did that.

1889
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:56,679
Speaker 3: You could have. You could make an argument. The Ravens

1890
01:28:56,720 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 3: are like fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, yeses they.

1891
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:01,760
Speaker 4: Had a great offseason.

1892
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 3: Sucks this guy, man, all right, AP, good job out

1893
01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:08,840
Speaker 3: of you. Happy birthday, buddy, Thank you, bo, thank you

1894
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:12,040
Speaker 3: all right, very good the great Ap joining us on

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Speaker 3: I mean you have to be chasing the small ball

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01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:58,639
Speaker 3: after this, you're darn right. I just look at this attire.

1903
01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:00,600
Speaker 3: There's a splendid polo out of you. What do you

1904
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:02,400
Speaker 3: think about that? I love this polo. I let you know,

1905
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:04,080
Speaker 3: I'm a Navy blue guy. Yeah, you and I are

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01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:07,040
Speaker 3: dressing in opposite hughes. I'm usually a Navy blue, you're

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01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:09,800
Speaker 3: usually a blood blah. Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean

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01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:13,120
Speaker 3: you got. I love your outfit. Sure to hood you

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01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:15,479
Speaker 3: with some camo shorts. Get out of here.

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01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm trying to be you know.

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Speaker 3: I like I like it.

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01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:20,599
Speaker 4: This is not my normal style. This was a gift.

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01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:22,679
Speaker 3: I like it though. I think that's good looking.

1914
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 4: But the company unreal. I think it's actually Adam Thielend's

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01:30:26,240 --> 01:30:28,519
Speaker 4: golf company is a golf work company. They sent some

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01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:29,920
Speaker 4: stuff to the mizz but it didn't fit them. So

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01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:32,240
Speaker 4: I picked up a because this isn't my normal style. Yeah,

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01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:33,919
Speaker 4: I deal with a lot of solids or camos.

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01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:36,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's subtle, correct like the patterning and it's

1920
01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:37,040
Speaker 3: very subtle.

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01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:39,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a good look. Thank you, very good.

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Speaker 3: Well enjoy it. It's gonna be a beautiful day for

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01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:41,880
Speaker 3: it for sure.

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Speaker 4: Can't wait.

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Speaker 5: All right?

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01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 3: Next level is next?

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Speaker 4: Next, that's right, We're back tomorrow.

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