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Speaker 1: Hey, there, everybody. It is Sunday, September twenty first. And

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Speaker 1: then Charlie Kirkin memorial just wrapped up with one very

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Speaker 1: powerful moment from his widow, and then there was Trump,

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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to this episode of Amy and TJ, which

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Speaker 1: we are recording. We had to apologize to our editor,

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Speaker 1: we're getting this to him late. The memorial was supposed

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Speaker 1: to go they said four hours, ended up going five

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Speaker 1: hours and fifteen minute tropes.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and it went long, and it took some left

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Speaker 2: turns when President Trump got in front of the mic.

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Speaker 2: There were some poignant moments. There were some very powerful moments,

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Speaker 2: as you pointed out, and then yes, there were some

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Speaker 2: strange ones. I don't know if there's any other way

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Speaker 2: to describe them. Where we I actually we would look

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Speaker 2: at each other and say, what's happening right now?

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Speaker 1: I think even objectively uncomfortable, even if you're a fan

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Speaker 1: of the president. I was worried at times about is

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Speaker 1: he okay? I mean, I just thought he was tired,

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Speaker 1: he exhausted, he was going he was rambling at times

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Speaker 1: and injected a whole lot of politics into this speech

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Speaker 1: that we'll get into, but always ended up being forty minutes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was, yeah, around there. I don't have the

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Speaker 2: exact time, but it was around roughly forty minutes.

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Speaker 1: And you can tell clearly when he was reading the

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Speaker 1: prompter and reading the speech, because that was directed at

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk. And then he would go off onto what

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Speaker 1: we hear. We heard about Jimmy Kimmel.

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Speaker 2: We heard about Jimmy Kimmel, We heard about Chicago. Yes,

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Speaker 2: we heard about autism. Yes, we heard about a lot

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Speaker 2: of things that I don't believe any of us were

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Speaker 2: expecting to hear. At Charlie Kirk's memoire.

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Speaker 1: Even Biden got a mention he did it was look

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Speaker 1: and that was the eulogy probably right that. When you

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Speaker 1: say more so than Eric, I mean Erica spoke, But

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Speaker 1: the one who kind of told the story of Charlie

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Speaker 1: Kirk was the President talking about how he came up.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, he kind of gave the biography. So that

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Speaker 1: was more so about Charlie Kirk and his upbringing.

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Speaker 2: If you were learned that he actually was it, I

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Speaker 2: just now realized it probably wasn't President. We listened to

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Speaker 2: so many speakers I had them all mixed up. Was

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Speaker 2: it President Trump or was it Don Junior who said

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Speaker 2: that Charlie Kirk actually wanted to go to West Point,

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Speaker 2: he wasn't able to get in. Like, we started to

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Speaker 2: hear interesting tidbits about his life and the way he

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Speaker 2: got to where he was at the young age of

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Speaker 2: thirty one, but how it all began at the age

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Speaker 1: I think Robes it was cool to see his friends

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Speaker 1: talk about him in some of the memories and talk

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Speaker 1: about him in a positive light with nothing having to

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Speaker 1: do with politics. I do think, like you just said,

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Speaker 1: the the way it looked was it might have been

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Speaker 1: exactly what they were going for, but there were times

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Speaker 1: a memorial.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely not, No, it looked like a political convent and

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Speaker 2: it looked look and I have no issue at all.

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Speaker 2: And I'm sure a lot of folks loved the idea

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Speaker 2: being some sad, somber event, and that certainly was not

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Speaker 2: the case there. But standing ovations, pyrotechnics, music, it all

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Speaker 2: felt it just felt strange. I didn't really know what

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Speaker 1: But yeah, some of the again I'm talking about the

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Speaker 1: folks early on, I thought there was some pretty powerful stories.

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Speaker 1: You were the one that pointed this out to me

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Speaker 1: at one point that at one point Trump was sitting

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Speaker 1: and I didn't notice it. You.

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Speaker 2: You actually had started to walk into the other room.

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Speaker 2: You were still listening, and I said, Babe, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: Elon Musk and President Trump are sitting next to each

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Speaker 2: other right now, and you ran back in because you

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Speaker 2: said I saw him earlier. He was on the floor.

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Speaker 2: We knew he was there, we knew he was in attendance.

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Speaker 2: But apparently at some point he was brought up up

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Speaker 1: Once again, Okay, that was huge. That was a huge moment.

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Speaker 1: We don't know exactly what that was and what's going

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Speaker 1: public billionaire breakup. Everybody saw this bromance shatter.

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Speaker 2: Vicious, yes, vicious things said about one another publicly on

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Speaker 2: social media platforms. Yes.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. So this is the first indication, the first thing

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Speaker 2: It was suggested by some folks who were watching this

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Speaker 2: I don't want to say get back together, but to

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Speaker 2: repair their friendship, to put the pass behind them, and

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Speaker 2: to move on. So perhaps this in his death at

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Speaker 2: his memorial service, maybe that was a part of the

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Speaker 1: And look, we don't know if they talked at all

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes before this, but certainly publicly to see

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Speaker 1: these two together after all that, and it looked like

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Speaker 1: he did send them off. Like you said, he shook

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Speaker 1: But originally I saw him on the floor, so I

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Speaker 2: He was for a while, but then he did go away.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he did go back to wherever he was seated.

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Speaker 2: But that was certainly a moment that people will can

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Speaker 2: was that conversation we all saw.

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Speaker 1: I'm really skipped down here to some of the people

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Speaker 1: who were talking. His pastor came up. He was very sweet,

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Speaker 1: but it was, well, you've gone to church. There's an

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Speaker 1: alter call. Usually at the end of church, if anybody

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Speaker 2: I was raised Catholic. I don't know what an altar

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Speaker 1: Usually at the end of pretty much every service, the

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Speaker 1: He says, if everybody's here who would like to receive

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Speaker 1: Christ into their life, essentially saying to be baptized, to

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Speaker 1: in front of the congregation. You stand up in front

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Speaker 1: this usually could be a few people, a whole row

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Speaker 2: So it's the equivalent of communion for Catholics. So at

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Speaker 2: the end of the Mass, once we've already had the

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Speaker 2: actually receives communion. And Catholics believe they're actually ingesting, taking

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Speaker 2: as similar as it might be.

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Speaker 1: We should we should put this in a religious okay, but.

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Speaker 2: You know what speaking of it though. Look, I understand

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Speaker 2: it was a funeral service or a memorial service, but

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Speaker 2: I was actually taken aback at so much of the

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Speaker 2: christ talk. Yes, to hear that from elected officials is

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Speaker 2: not something we normally here. I've never heard anything like

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Speaker 1: I didn't mind it. I don't mind any public somebody

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Speaker 1: yourselves out. I actually think it's beautiful sometimes and should

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Speaker 1: think we have them in here we could talk about that.

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Speaker 1: It seemed to turn from not just we love Christ,

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Speaker 1: sure better love Christ as well. When those things are

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Speaker 1: in there, it seems like this group excludes people who

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Speaker 1: means Christianity and scept Christ. So that's fine, except the

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Speaker 2: And that is why we have a separation of church

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Speaker 2: that would be amazing if more of our politicians had

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Speaker 2: as you would have done unto you. That's amazing, And

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Speaker 2: that's not what we're talking about. Some of what you know,

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Speaker 2: Don Junior, was a lot about welcome, you're with us,

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Speaker 1: He was using your one of us, then welcome those

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Speaker 1: for faith, if you are for freedom. It was almost

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Speaker 1: a little test. He did have a rilly inquiry at

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Speaker 1: the end. He also had quite frankly, I thought it

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Speaker 1: It was funny.

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Speaker 2: He had some comedic relief in there and some and

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Speaker 2: it was and it was appropriate. The humor. It was.

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Speaker 2: We needed it, you know, it was. It's a very

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Speaker 2: heavy day obviously, where we're mourning the loss of a

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Speaker 2: someone who devoted his life to his passions, into his faith.

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Speaker 2: So yes, it is a dark day. But Don Junior

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Speaker 2: had the right amount of humor and it did work.

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Speaker 1: It worked. He did. Don Donald Trump Junior did a

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Speaker 1: and he nailed it. Actually, he was really good, probably

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Speaker 2: pretty quickly after some horrific murder, whether it's your husband,

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Speaker 2: it's your child, When I hear people be able to

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Speaker 2: almost immediately forgive, I then say, you know what, that

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Speaker 2: is some powerful faith, because only through faith, only through

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Speaker 2: a relationship with God, and only through a relationship of

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Speaker 2: that higher power could you be able to say that

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Speaker 2: as a human being.

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Speaker 1: Well, Trump finally got up, already passed the time that

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Speaker 1: it was supposed to be over, but he goes forty

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Speaker 1: so minutes. But he did start talking about the nation

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Speaker 1: in morning, talked about us being robbed of one of

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Speaker 1: our brightest stars. He started talking about Charlie and he

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Speaker 1: decided in fifth grade to be a Christian and talk

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Speaker 1: about how he started turning point USA and was on

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Speaker 1: his twenty sixteen campaign. But Robes, things started going sideways

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Speaker 1: when he told us about an oval office. Sounds like

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Speaker 1: a pretty big announcement tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Ah. Yes, he says that they are going to announce

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Speaker 2: that they have or will be solving autism in this country.

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Speaker 2: So that came out of complete left field. That was

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Speaker 2: I actually I think we had to rewind it and

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Speaker 2: listen to it again. Did he actually just talk about

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Speaker 2: solving autism?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Super confused?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So he deviated several times and this is just

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Speaker 1: one of the topics. Now, Robes, he'd talk about he

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Speaker 1: disagreed with Charlie. This idea that's supposed to love your opponent.

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Speaker 1: Was that what he was saying?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, he said that Charlie absolutely believed and that

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Speaker 2: is the teaching of Christ one hundred percent love the enemy, right,

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Speaker 2: So yes, he said, that's where I disagreed with Charlie.

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Speaker 2: I hate my opponent and I don't want the best

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Speaker 2: for them.

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Speaker 1: He said hate.

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Speaker 2: Very he said hate.

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Speaker 1: He could have banged on a table when he said it, and.

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Speaker 2: I think afterwards he apologized Erica. I know Erica probably

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Speaker 2: wouldn't agree with me, and but then he reiterated it,

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Speaker 2: I hate my opponent, I don't like them, and I

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Speaker 2: don't want what's best for them.

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Speaker 1: Again, Memorial Service, he did mention. Radicals of Vague News

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Speaker 1: tried to silence him. He went on for a little

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Speaker 1: while about ten.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what to say about that.

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Speaker 1: There was a Biden insult. I can't remember what it was,

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Speaker 1: but that was a Biden insult about MAGA.

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Speaker 2: He said that Biden was against MAGA. How could you

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Speaker 2: be against MAGA? Because does Biden not know what MAGA

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Speaker 2: stands for making America great? Against? So how could Biden

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Speaker 2: be against that? So, yes, he did bring that up.

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Speaker 1: And he had an applause line. He just stopped and

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Speaker 1: said anybody loved Maga in here and got a big

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Speaker 1: applause line. He did mention Rove the bullet. He said,

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Speaker 1: it's aimed at every one of us, talking about this

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Speaker 1: person was taking a shot at the United States right freedom.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it making America great again, but yes, he said

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Speaker 2: that bullet was intended for all of us.

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Speaker 1: He did tell us that yes, this word has come out,

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Speaker 1: but yes, he made an official presidential Medal of Freedom

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Speaker 1: he's going to give to him. But then Robes, he

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Speaker 1: started talking about the takeover of Washington. So we stopped

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Speaker 1: crime in Washington took twelve.

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Speaker 2: Days, yes, And then he also talked about He said,

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Speaker 2: you could bring your wife onto the streets of Washington,

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Speaker 2: DC and go out to dinner. She could go by

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Speaker 2: herself and she'll perfectly safe. He also talked about Chicago

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Speaker 2: and said that Charlie Kirk it was one of the

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Speaker 2: last things that Charlie said to him was please save Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: So he brought that up as well. And Memphis too, Yes,

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Speaker 2: said that they had an incompetent governor.

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Speaker 1: These were some of the times where he was totally offscripts.

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Speaker 2: And this is where at least the new York Times

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Speaker 2: was reporting that hundreds, they said, of people started to

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Speaker 2: leave their seats and walk towards the exits, probably because

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Speaker 2: they had been sitting there for very very long periods

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Speaker 2: of time, but also because they realized he had stopped

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Speaker 2: talking about Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 1: He did a lot. I don't know what the percentages,

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Speaker 1: but he didn't. He deviated a lot. Yes, started insulting

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Speaker 1: the governor. He also mentioned the DOJ. He's told his

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Speaker 1: investigators to look into networks of radical left lunatics.

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Speaker 2: So does he mean the main networks that That's what

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Speaker 2: It seemed as though he was referring to the mainstream media.

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Speaker 1: And he took this opportunity to say that Jimmy Kimmel has.

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Speaker 2: No talent without saying his name, but we all know it.

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Speaker 2: He did not say his name, but he said, you know,

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Speaker 2: I think he says something like a certain late night

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Speaker 2: someone lost who lost his job last this week, and

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Speaker 2: it's because he has terrible ratings and has no talent.

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Speaker 2: That's what he said. Yeah, So he referenced Jimmy Kimmel

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Speaker 2: very directly and very specifically, without saying his name.

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Speaker 1: And that was it, folks. Five hours and fifteen minutes

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Speaker 1: of moving, touching, jaw dropping speeches I did. I learned

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Speaker 1: a lot about him today and I appreciate knowing that

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Speaker 1: stuff about him. The rest of it's going to get headlines,

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Speaker 1: we get it.

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Speaker 2: But it was fascinating to watch. It was educational to watch.

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Speaker 2: It was shocking at times, but it was moving in

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Speaker 2: other moments. And so yes, it had a little bit

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Speaker 2: of something for everyone. Like we said, it was poignant,

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Speaker 2: it was powerful, but at times head scratching.

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Speaker 1: And with that, folks, in case you didn't watch it,

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Speaker 1: now you know what she missed. We did that five

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Speaker 1: hours and fifteen minutes for you. Now. I'm t J.

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Speaker 2: Holmes and I made me Roeboch. We will talk to

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Speaker 2: you again real soon. H