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Speaker 1: Welcome to the drive. I am Dale Lolli. He is

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Speaker 1: the Matt Williamson and Matt. It is a Tuesday in.

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Speaker 2: A bye week, strange, all kinds of stuff to figure out.

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Speaker 1: We have to talk about this week. We'll get into

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Speaker 1: some the roster and things of that nature later here

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Speaker 1: in the week. But one thing I wanted to get

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Speaker 1: to so Deontay Johnson. He told me this on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: so it wasn't really a surprise. But he's coming back

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Speaker 1: this week. He'll be back after the bye week, so

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Speaker 1: the Steelers will get have that going on. No secret

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Speaker 1: there he is. He is coming back. They should also

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Speaker 1: get maybe Pat Friarmouth's back. I wanted to take a

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Speaker 1: look at what that would mean around the league here

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Speaker 1: if you took the number one receiver off of a team.

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Speaker 2: Minnesota is about to find out.

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Speaker 1: About to find out because Justin Jefferson is out for

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Speaker 1: the next four weeks.

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Speaker 2: Let's spend a couple of minutes on that. Like Kirk

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Speaker 2: Cousins having a heck of a year, He's a good

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Speaker 2: NFL quarterback. I'd rather lose Cousins probably than Jefferson. Well,

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Speaker 2: they don't have anybody their backups are so bad.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'd rather lose Hawkinson and Addison Jefferson.

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Speaker 2: Jefferson, you'd rather lose.

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Speaker 1: The two into three, and you're number one.

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Speaker 2: I think he's the best receiver in the league. So

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Speaker 2: this is an extreme example, but he tilts coverages.

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Speaker 3: So Official Voice Nation, Steelers Nation Radio, I don't know

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Speaker 3: whatever that was.

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Speaker 1: Anyways, let's go through.

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Speaker 2: You go through every team and if they lost the.

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Speaker 1: Run through the AFCRE I'm just running down the order

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Speaker 1: of the team here in the AFC. No, she's kind

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Speaker 1: of whatever. Kansas City, if you take Travis Kelcey.

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Speaker 2: I think they're already struggling.

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Speaker 1: They're screwed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be honest. I thought when they traded Hill

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Speaker 2: that was going to be their version of a rebuild.

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Speaker 2: Well I was wrong. You know, Kelsey was still at

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Speaker 2: the height of his powers. The line was better, mahomes amazing.

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Speaker 2: Now they'll ever be bad. I mean, I don't think

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Speaker 2: anybody thinks that, like, oh, they're gonna bought him out.

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Speaker 2: But they're struggling right now.

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Speaker 1: It's it's hard work each week.

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Speaker 2: It's hard work each week. All of a sudden and

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Speaker 2: Kelsey's been in out of lineup. I'm not gonna blame

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Speaker 2: Taylor Swift or anything, but it seems like he's not

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Speaker 2: quite the same player this year. At his age always doubled.

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Speaker 2: I mean it used to be you could get a

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Speaker 2: first down, you can get a layup from him anytime

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Speaker 2: you want it. I haven't seen that this year. We haven't.

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Speaker 1: What we haven't seen from Kelsey this year are the

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Speaker 1: catch and runs.

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Speaker 2: That's a good point, and I wonder if he doesn't

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Speaker 2: have that in him any he might not.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of his catch and I can still

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Speaker 1: he can still find the soft spots in the zone

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Speaker 1: and sit down and maham mahomes have that. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know where he's gonna be at. He knows where

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Speaker 1: I want him to be at. But the catch and

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Speaker 1: run stuff I think is done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is too much of a trend to

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Speaker 2: think it won't happen to him. And I mean this

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Speaker 2: in a positive way. Amazing tight ends fade away slow,

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Speaker 2: you know, like Witt and Ran, like you and me

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Speaker 2: at the end, Antonio Gates, Heith Miller.

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Speaker 1: They still know how to get open and where to

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Speaker 1: find yeah, where to find this.

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Speaker 2: And they don't get away with it. It's not because

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Speaker 2: of their physical traits.

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Speaker 1: Anymoreah, Miami with Tyreek, if you took Tyreek off of

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Speaker 1: Miami's offense, it looks completely different.

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Speaker 2: Wattle's good, He's really good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's I mean George Pickens is kind of reaching

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Speaker 1: for that. You know, if if Pickens turns into it,

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Speaker 1: you know, that kind of receiver for you, great and

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Speaker 1: maybe better. But if you take Tyreek off of that

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Speaker 1: Miami offense, it's not nearly as good.

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Speaker 2: Right. So there's a couple teams where the number two

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Speaker 2: You know, Philadelphia, Cincinnati, they didn't had to play without Higgins.

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Speaker 2: But it's not the one. It's not the one, and

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Speaker 2: it's not Tyreek. I mean, this is like the Jefferson conversation.

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Speaker 2: The more I watch him, I'm not sure how many

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Speaker 2: game changer. And what They just played the Giants, right,

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Speaker 2: And did you catch the quotes from Wink Martindale this week?

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Speaker 2: It's pretty funny. They asked them, Hey, are you able

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Speaker 2: Dolphins and mostly Tyreek, and he said, yeah, I've been

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Speaker 2: sleeping like a baby. I get up crying every three

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Speaker 2: hours and need something to eat. You know, I need

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Speaker 2: pat it on the head. You know. He's very funny

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Speaker 2: about it. I don't think anyone on.

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Speaker 1: The stole from somebody.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure it's not original, but I'm going to steal

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Speaker 2: from him. I don't think there's a player in the league,

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Speaker 2: a shell of themselves without that Jacksonville. Now, it depends

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Speaker 2: on who you think the one is. I think it's Ridley,

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Speaker 1: The I think it might be Kirk. They're kind of

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Speaker 1: a They're in a different kind of situation. They're a

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Speaker 1: they were playing without Zay Jones and it turned it

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Speaker 2: And their offense really, when Ridley's been at his best

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Speaker 2: this year, and again it's only five games, and he

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Speaker 2: hasn't been a jag, you know, for more than five games.

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Speaker 2: When he's been sharp, their offense has been looks good

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Speaker 2: whenever he's dropping balls and not look quite looking like himself.

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Speaker 2: That's when they've been really fumbling, bumbling. Not the best

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Speaker 2: team to pick with. Yeah, but I mean is Ridley

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Speaker 2: and Kirk drastically different than Deontay and Pickens. I mean

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Speaker 2: we all like Deontay, but he's not Tyreek or Jeffers.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, no, I mean if you take one of

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Speaker 1: it's good. Agree, it's not going to look good. Indianapolis

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Speaker 1: with Michael Pittman would be done.

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Speaker 2: He does the heavy lifting, Yeah, he would be done.

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Speaker 1: And he's I mean, Deontay is a better receiver than him.

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Speaker 2: I disagree, but I love it.

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Speaker 1: I think he is.

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Speaker 2: I think Pittman's a really really good player. And but

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Speaker 2: that would be an example that would back me up,

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Speaker 2: I don't think they'd run the ball.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think they'd move the ball at all.

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Speaker 2: Right, Right, He's very important, but they could use a

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Speaker 2: Pickens or Yeah, they that's what they draft appears to

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Speaker 1: The Ravens, I'm gonna say it's Mark Andrews, and we've

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Speaker 1: and it's not pretty.

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Speaker 2: No, they're a tougher one just because their offense is different.

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Speaker 2: At least they have three receivers, two of which aren't

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Speaker 2: doing anything that they are invested in. But Andrews has

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Speaker 2: definitely been the straw that serves a drink. Yeah, it

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Speaker 2: would be really missed Buffalo without Digs. Digs would would

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Speaker 2: be awful. That's why they drafted Kincaid, Like we need

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Speaker 2: something else, you know, like Gabe Davis is okay, and

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Speaker 2: he was hurt.

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Speaker 1: They're not scary, They're like, you know, twenty two points

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what they are exactly.

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Speaker 1: That's what they were pre Digs.

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Speaker 2: They're great, agreed. I mean, Alan's special, but you got

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Speaker 2: to give him some guys.

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Speaker 1: That can get open the Browns with Amari Cooper.

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Speaker 2: See, he's a good example. But I was were about

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Speaker 2: to say before he said that is you'd really have

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Speaker 2: to dissect it and it'd be an incredibly long segment.

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Speaker 2: But like the are a really good example, like Ayuk

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Speaker 2: is a man killer, Deebo is a zone killer, where

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Speaker 2: the Digs is the world kill everybody, but some of

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Speaker 2: these teams, and I bet Jacksonville is an example of that.

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Speaker 2: You would see vastly more man or vastly more zone

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Speaker 2: So there's more ramifications and the Steelers apply to I mean,

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Speaker 2: Deontay is obviously a man beater. Who were talking about Cleveland. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't love Amri Cooper, but he had a pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Clear number one. Take him out of the equation and

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Speaker 2: I mean, think about what they've invested in lately. They

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Speaker 2: go trade for more. They draft Tillman with their first pick.

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Speaker 2: They drafted the fast dude from Auburn the year before,

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Speaker 2: desperately trying to take something off Cooper's plate. Yeah, they

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Speaker 2: would be in trouble without him.

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Speaker 1: The Chargers without Keenan Allen. We got to see that

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Speaker 2: No, And their problem is they can't ever keep Williams

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Speaker 2: and Allen on the field together because those two are

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Speaker 2: so different too. Like if you lost Alan, you'd still

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Speaker 2: Williams and the rookie Johnston, but without Allen, you're not

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Speaker 2: moving the chains, you know, like everyone knows where the

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Speaker 2: ball's going. I mean, he's such a specific type receiver.

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Speaker 2: They would be in trouble without him, and they were

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Speaker 2: last year the Texans.

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Speaker 1: If you take Nico Collins out of the equation, it's

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Speaker 1: a hard one. It's a hard one because it's just

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Speaker 1: not there's not enough track record.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I bet if we have his conversation in

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Speaker 2: two months, would be like they wouldn't be close to

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Speaker 2: the same. Yeah, And I think he's trending in that way.

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Speaker 1: The Titans, who are gonna call their number one, I

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Speaker 1: mean without Hopkins, Hopkins, they'd be they'd be in deep trouble.

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Speaker 2: He's not what he used to be, but he's still

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Speaker 2: I'm in trouble. I'm gonna chuck it up to DeAndre. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, that's kind of like the Jefferson conversation. I

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Speaker 2: was gonna say, when Cousins is in trouble, he throws

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Speaker 2: it into double coverage to eighteen and he goes and

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Speaker 2: gets it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean that's Hopkins, and the key is the

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Speaker 1: double coverage party exactly. Those guys, These are guys that

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Speaker 1: draw double coverage.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they beat it. You know, we saw Adams

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Speaker 2: do it against the Steelers last night. You know, guys

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Speaker 1: The Jets without Wilson nothing, they have nobody to throw.

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Speaker 2: Them back too, and they've invested like crazy, or you

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Speaker 2: tried to. I mean they got all Aaron Rodgers buddies

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Speaker 2: and paid Corey Davis and all of a sudden they

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Speaker 2: got one pass catcher.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The Bengals without Chase.

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Speaker 2: Well, even without Higgins it isn't great. Well, but they've

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Speaker 2: they've played.

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Speaker 1: Some games without Chase in the past. It's they're not

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Speaker 1: as good. They're not as explosive, they're not they're not

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Speaker 2: So I meant to say this when we started the conversation,

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Speaker 2: is there aren't thirty two number one receivers in the league.

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Speaker 1: There's there's thirty two teams though that have their top receiver. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: and that's why it could be somebody else. You take

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Speaker 1: the number one guy out of any offense. Oh, it's huge,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Broncos, who knows, who knows from week to

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Speaker 2: Oh, they tilt the field. Even if they don't have

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Speaker 1: They wouldn't be as good, They wouldn't be as good. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the best in the league at any of those? No,

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Speaker 1: Or it comes down to how the opposing defenses treat

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Speaker 2: That's what I think is really interesting.

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Speaker 1: Now, But you didn't have that opportunity, you didn't have

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Speaker 2: Get singled, right right, I mean, now teams are gonna

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Speaker 2: It changes everything like never it's it wasn't a good

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Speaker 2: That's scarier than getting Nickel a dime to death.

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Speaker 1: At the same time, you know, you can pick your

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean maybe it's a Keenan Allen Mike

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Speaker 2: Guys are, right, And I'm not giving Alan Robinson a

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Speaker 1: You hate to say that, you know, because it sounds

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Speaker 1: You know, Deontay Johnson changes the way that the opponents.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you're much easier to play against it.

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Speaker 1: If it's fourth and one in Houston, sure and you're

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Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure, we talked about this yesterday. But the play

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Speaker 2: when's right? You know what I mean. It's not gonna

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Speaker 1: It's third and three. Oh, we better we better double

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Speaker 1: Deontay Johnson on this one because he's gonna get open quickly.

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Speaker 2: His slanter out is gonna kill us.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna kill us. And is there gonna move the

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Speaker 2: So we better leave our left corner alone on George.

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Speaker 2: You can find many many plays when nobody's ever open.

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Speaker 1: you see the guy, like within a half second, the

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Speaker 1: guy's opened up exactly.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's it's not a chessboard that everyone stares at,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, if I hit pause,

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Speaker 2: it looks like a chessboard. That's not how the game's played.

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Speaker 2: And that's a social media glitch that drives me crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you get the armchair coordinators out there, look

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Speaker 1: at this, look at his plate design. Nobody's open. We'll

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Speaker 1: let the play develop.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and on our plays, nobody's open and then.

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Speaker 1: And then yeah, you know, right, and that happens. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean nine times out of ten, probably ninety nine

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Speaker 1: times out of one hundred within a second and a

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Speaker 1: half ball snapped. Nobody's open yet, because that's not the

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Speaker 1: that's just the reality of the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're running into their zones and then you got

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Speaker 2: to make something happen, right right, real quick. About the

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Speaker 2: defenses too, anyone watched last night's game. Max Crosby's pretty good, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, and Bosa and Garrett, I mean, like in

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Speaker 2: Warner like they faced five or six of the best

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Speaker 2: ten defensive players on the planet. You know that that

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Speaker 2: aren't on their team.

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Speaker 1: The change real game changers, and suddenly that win over

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Speaker 1: the Raiders doesn't look quite so Oh that was That's

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Speaker 1: a bad Raiders team. Well they came in they're doing okay. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they beat the Packers at that offense. Is they probably

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Speaker 1: beat the Patriots this week?

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Speaker 2: Probably. I'm sure they're favored in that game.

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Speaker 1: I would think so. It's at home, yeah matters, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure now, considering the Patriots have been outscored

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Speaker 1: by sixty nine points the last two weeks at home brutal,

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Speaker 1: the Patriots might be looking forward to getting on the road.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure it's town. Yeah, it's a rough neighborhood right there.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, this Deontay Johnson thing is huge, huge side note,

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Speaker 2: and we can talk about this totally different subject. If

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Speaker 2: you looked at this team on opening day and said,

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Speaker 2: rank who you want to lose the least? Deyontay and

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Speaker 2: Cameron top five without hell yeah, all right now, Hey

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Speaker 2: brings up Cam Hayward, Like these guys are the best

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Speaker 2: players in the league for eight years or whatever, you know.

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Speaker 1: Come on, yeah for sure. Anyway, we're gonna get to

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Speaker 1: a break. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am Dale LOLLI he is the Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson and Matt Steelers in a bye this week. Uh,

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Speaker 1: players practicing today and then Mike Tomlin gave them the

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Speaker 1: rest of the week off.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, that's cool. I'm sure if they didn't win,

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Speaker 2: they wouldn't have got that little privilege. Huh yeah.

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Speaker 1: And you know, let's let's talk about this in terms.

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Speaker 1: So I keep seeing everywhere that the Ravens lost that

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Speaker 1: game on Sunday more than the Steelers won it.

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Speaker 2: I get that. I mean, I understand that perspective on it.

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Speaker 1: But so well, you know, Lamar did what Lamar was

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Speaker 1: supposed to do. He went out and did they dropped

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Speaker 1: these touchdown passes. Do people not see Lamar fumbling the football?

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Speaker 1: Do people not seem the interception that he threw to

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Speaker 1: Joey Porter Junior, Yeah, bad one. He didn't throw a fade,

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Speaker 1: he didn't throw back shoulder.

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Speaker 2: He threw it to joe right to Joey. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean in a field goal.

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Speaker 1: There a field goal, you're in field goal range.

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Speaker 2: Well that too, I mean it took points off the

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Speaker 2: board obviously. Oh my No. I thought Lamar played quite

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Speaker 2: well through the football. Well, you know, his numbers could

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Speaker 2: should have been much better. But I kind of like

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Speaker 2: this explanation. I forget who said it. Like, in this league,

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Speaker 2: especially in divisional games, especially amongst teams that know each other,

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Speaker 2: if you leave the door open for a team, they're

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Speaker 2: going to walk through it and burn your house down,

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Speaker 2: you know. I mean that's just how the league works.

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Speaker 2: And could they have shut that door maybe in the

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Speaker 2: first half with a Tucker field goal or whatever. Maybe,

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Speaker 2: I mean it would have been a tougher door to

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Speaker 2: blow down. It would have been you know, the big

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Speaker 2: bad wolf would have to huff and puff a lot more.

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Speaker 2: And there's an arc to putting teams away.

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Speaker 1: They're I also look, you know, so we know what

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Speaker 1: the snaff who was at the end of the first

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Speaker 1: half when they didn't get the field goal off?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: The linderbombs Linderbaum snaps the football there, you're Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 1: It's fourth and two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, just tuck it and go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, why don't you tuck it and get Why would

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Speaker 1: you just throw the ball to nobody?

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Speaker 2: He pro he panicked or it's coach strong in training

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Speaker 2: camp or whatever. You know, like if your go to

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Speaker 2: play when that happens, is just throw it, you know,

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Speaker 2: thinking that you've gotta pay when you got that guy.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's what he's coached to do.

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Speaker 1: I have a hard time believing that because yeah, because

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Speaker 1: he's I look, I love Lamar Jackson. I think the

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Speaker 1: people who think he's just you know, oh, he's just

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Speaker 1: a running back playing quarterback are way off a lot,

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Speaker 1: super wrong. You're wrong about that.

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Speaker 2: But he deserves some heat for this loss, without a doubt,

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Speaker 2: you know, I just I agree with that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he felt the pressure as the game went.

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Speaker 2: On, you got to make if he can make one

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Speaker 2: more play late in the game, maybe it's different two

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Speaker 2: more plays. I mean the second half, they.

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Speaker 1: Had chances to put the Steelers away and they didn't

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Speaker 1: do it.

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Speaker 2: I mean they had they had control of the game

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Speaker 2: at halftime, and they almost always win those games.

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Speaker 1: But to not credit to Steelers at all for having

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Speaker 1: anything to do with that, to me, you know some

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Speaker 1: of the stuff. I've seen the numbers out there, and

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Speaker 1: he's what's what's a drop and what's not a drop?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean I've seen sobjective. Yeah, but they were a lot.

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Speaker 1: But before before the Bateman drop, which Bateman's drop in

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Speaker 1: the end zone was one drop. Yes, I mean it

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Speaker 1: hits him in the stomach and he drops. By any definition,

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Speaker 1: it happens to every NFL team, whether you believe it

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Speaker 1: or not. That happens.

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Speaker 2: Jackson was getting killed with drops this year.

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Speaker 1: Right before that, he's got Andrews in the end zone.

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Speaker 1: He throws the ball twelve feet in the air and

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Speaker 1: it tips off of it like one hundred miles an

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Speaker 1: hour off Andrew's hands. Is that a drop? Right?

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Speaker 2: No? You know?

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Speaker 1: I mean, but I had it must be considered a

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Speaker 1: drop because that's only only way I can get to seven.

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Speaker 2: Ye watching game, I didn't count them.

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Speaker 1: That's a bad pass.

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Speaker 2: I've seen some people credit them to seven some five whatever,

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Speaker 2: But everyone knows. I enjoy my analytics. But things like drops, pressures,

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Speaker 2: that's just somebody sitting in the chair, like, is that

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Speaker 2: a pressure or not?

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Speaker 1: He got within two yards of the quarterbacks. The quarterback

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Speaker 1: must have felt it.

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Speaker 2: Is that a drop or not? I mean the quarterback

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Speaker 2: threw an eight hundred miles an hour on a two

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Speaker 2: yard route and goes off his hands.

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Speaker 1: You know, some of that, like some of the stuff

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Speaker 1: that was being considered d like there were I think

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Speaker 1: it was one of the passes to uh to say,

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Speaker 1: flowers over the middle.

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Speaker 2: It was behind him, It was behind him. I say,

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Speaker 2: if you counted that as a drop, and there's a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of drops every week it's a bad throw.

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Speaker 2: Like I bet Brett fav led the league in drops

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Speaker 2: because everything was eight thousand an hour.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and some of that was because of the effect

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Speaker 1: the Steelers pass rush had on him, no doubt, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: Like he wasn't as crisp throwing the football. He wasn't,

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Speaker 1: you know. It was a little bit behind they had

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Speaker 1: maybe they had gotten so used to Lamar just always

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Speaker 1: stepped back there and he could pat the football and

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Speaker 1: zip it out there, right, you know, I hits me

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Speaker 1: in stride. Well, that didn't always happen in this game.

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Speaker 2: No it didn't. And I wish I remember the receiver.

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Speaker 2: You probably remember better than I do. It was either

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Speaker 2: Flowers or Agalar. And they got him matched up on

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Speaker 2: t J. Watt and covered. Yeah, and of course that's

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Speaker 2: the match up you want, you know, like we saw

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Speaker 2: Preston Smith trying to guard Adams last night. You know,

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Speaker 2: like come on, man, but anyway, once in a while,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna drop your edge, dude, right, And they get

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Speaker 2: in fines.

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Speaker 1: It's not what they're paid to do.

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Speaker 2: Not what they're paid to do. But TJ has done

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Speaker 2: it more than you know, Bruce Smith and I believe

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Speaker 2: that if that was a drop, it was because Watt

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Speaker 2: was crashing in on a little receiver.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like that was that was that was like

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Speaker 1: he hit he hit him in the chest.

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Speaker 2: All just goes flying out like he should have caught

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Speaker 2: the football.

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Speaker 1: It's a big dude hitting a little dude that's not used.

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Speaker 2: The big dudes roaring down at him right, like, I think,

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Speaker 2: what that should have been a PBu, not a drop. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and it was.

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Speaker 1: They went for a PBu for for what? And that

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Speaker 1: was my kind of my I talked about it. I

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Speaker 1: can't remember if I talked about it on this show

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Speaker 1: or not, but I did talk about it on the

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Speaker 1: pregame show with Tim Bens. Like one thing that we

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Speaker 1: saw when the Steelers are running a lot of that

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Speaker 1: quick game, you're throwing the ball into into tight spaces

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Speaker 1: or into traffics are going to happen.

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Speaker 2: We used to talk about this a lot. It was

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Speaker 2: usually Ben's last year. Deonta has way too many drops. Well,

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Speaker 2: he's got like one hundred and sixty targets this year,

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Speaker 2: you know, like that, and.

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Speaker 1: He's one hundred and forty of them are with five

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Speaker 1: guys standing near him getting ready to blast him as

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Speaker 1: soon as he catches the football.

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Speaker 2: TJ. Watt type body taps, not five ten corners, bumping

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Speaker 2: you out of bounds gently after you catch.

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Speaker 1: Guarantee Who Jay Jones didn't deal with that at Boston College.

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Speaker 2: No chance, no chance. Well, they couldn't catch them anyway

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Speaker 2: they catch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody's dropping their two hundred and fifty pounds ends

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Speaker 1: right in the coverage.

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Speaker 2: And if they are, he'd run past him in a blink. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean Virginia Tech end or whatever, Syracuse in. And

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Speaker 2: then the other thing about drops is the guys that

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Speaker 2: lead the league in drops are often like Welker Edelman.

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Speaker 2: Where do you think they do all their work? Ray

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Speaker 2: Lewis hit them right in the face, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 2: like it's harder to catch the ball there, it's not

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Speaker 2: as far down field, and then.

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Speaker 1: That's more traffic. Glariogi Joby's running you down from behind

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Speaker 1: and chopping the ball out, like all kinds of bad

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Speaker 1: stuff that happens. I can remember steph On too. It's

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Speaker 1: rookie year. It was Jamal Charles caught a ball out

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Speaker 1: in the flat.

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Speaker 2: Who's a smaller back.

653
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: He's a smaller back and he kind of got he

654
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: he got that there was some traffic in front of

655
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Speaker 1: him and stuff on two. It just comes in from

656
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Speaker 1: the side and just probably small is flying out and

657
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, that's.

658
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 2: Gonna happen to be plowing into my teenager, you know,

659
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 2: like there's a big difference here. I forget where I

660
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Speaker 2: was going with that. Oh, I bet you don't know

661
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 2: this answer, and I bet none of our listeners know

662
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,239
Speaker 2: this answer. Who led the league in drops last year

663
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 2: you happen to know?

664
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Speaker 1: Was it Jamar Chase?

665
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 2: It was stuff On Diggs, Okay, same Chase before though, Yeah, yeah,

666
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Speaker 2: I mean it was Amari Cooper one year, it was

667
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Speaker 2: Evans one year.

668
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

669
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Speaker 2: These are like some of the best receivers in the

670
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Speaker 2: league because people throw them over and over and over

671
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Speaker 2: and over. I mean, if you have really bad hands,

672
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 2: you don't get a lot of targets because they stopped

673
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Speaker 2: throwing to you.

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Speaker 1: Well, and that was you know, one of the reasons

675
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Speaker 1: why Nelson Aguilar, for example, was no longer a Philadelphia

676
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: Eagle was because he dropped football. Yeah, they got tired

677
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: of watching him drop the ball.

678
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 2: So I mean some of that's you you know, you

679
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 2: lose your targets when you have real drop but you.

680
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: Know when you sign that guy, well he'll occasionally drop

681
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: a football, or even when you drafted and he had

682
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Speaker 1: a Yeah, he had a drop down the sideline against

683
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Speaker 1: the like it happens. That's part of the game. That

684
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Speaker 1: doesn't mean that that the Ravens really they just let

685
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Speaker 1: the Steelers back into it. They let them hanger Steelers

686
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: had something to do with this to pretend that all

687
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: it was just all about the Ravens losing this game

688
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: and the Steelers did nothing to win it.

689
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 2: That that to me is they definitely missed opportunities or

690
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 2: you could. You know, they should be very unhappy with

691
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 2: how that they should be. There's no doubt in hindsight,

692
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 2: because you know they had the performing in the moment

693
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 2: they had the opportunity.

694
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Speaker 1: I mean, the Steelers had three points through three quarters.

695
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:56,959
Speaker 2: You should win that game.

696
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: At the bottom at the bottom line is the Ravens

697
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: still only had ten ten Yeah, yeah, you know they

698
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: didn't do enough offensively to win that game either.

699
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 2: No, I think their offense needs look itself, be like,

700
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 2: we can't have that reoccur, and how do we make

701
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 2: sure it doesn't.

702
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: You know, and the Steelers. I mean they changed things

703
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: up on how like if you watch rewatch that game.

704
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: Early in the game, they're rushing four and just kind

705
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: of you know, keeping them in the pocket. And he

706
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: got out a couple of times. His first two runs

707
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: in that game, he had the twenty what it was

708
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: a twenty six yard or whatever it was.

709
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, good some His second run went for nine, okay,

710
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,239
Speaker 2: and I don't think there's any other big ones.

711
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: And then his next three carries were like for ten yards.

712
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: His next four carries were for ten yards. They did it.

713
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: They hemmed him in.

714
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Speaker 2: Another thing they did, and you mentioned this yesterday, but

715
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 2: a lot of inside linebacker blitzes.

716
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they just started coming after him.

717
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: And then one thing they would do too, which I

718
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 2: definitely think affected him, was they would show blitz. They

719
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 2: would mug up those a gaps with the inside linebackers,

720
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: but they would fake blitz and kind of be a spot,

721
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 2: you know. And it's not a lot of times you'll

722
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 2: see spies like five yards off the line of scrimmage

723
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 2: just kind of sitting there hoping they can do something

724
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 2: in his own cover.

725
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: You're doing that waiting for him, when if you're at

726
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage doing that. Yeah, you know, because

727
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: he was hurting them. He was stepping up in the

728
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,239
Speaker 1: pocket and then looking for an escape lane. Well, if

729
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: you take away all the escape lanes.

730
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 2: Or if you make it more even more so is

731
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 2: if if his escape lanes are high Smith or what way, Great,

732
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: that's what you want, right, I mean I'm sure their

733
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 2: game plan is Lamar, feel free to run all you want,

734
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 2: but don't go off tackle because we have a disadvantage

735
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: thereon Highsmith's side. Note high Smith killed Stanley and that

736
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,959
Speaker 2: just destroyed it killed him, just destroyed him.

737
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Speaker 1: Yeah and yeah, I mean just rewatching that game again,

738
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, boy this again. They they didn't. They didn't.

739
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: They never gave Stanley any help because they very rarely

740
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: and you know they didn't.

741
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 2: He lost that matchup.

742
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: They didn't double what in key situation like the time?

743
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Right? I mean they did it

744
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: as much, you know, they didn't do it. They get

745
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: some but they didn't do it as much as other

746
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: opponents do. No like Houston or Yeah, it just hurt them.

747
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: It's again, that's that's on the coaching staff, Like you know,

748
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: these guys can wreck your game, right and you.

749
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 2: Allowed them to do so. I guess I could understand

750
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 2: at this point of his career slightly underestimating high Smith.

751
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 2: Say hey, Stanley, you're in a Trent Williams like Mannard.

752
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: We're paying twenty we're paying twenty million dollars a year.

753
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: Go win that match and.

754
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 2: Win that matchup. And he didn't, you know, but it

755
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 2: really wasn't closed.

756
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: No, Heismith's just destroyed it.

757
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 2: He had eleven pressures in that game. Eleven. How about

758
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 2: this number. I heard this this morning too, which you

759
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 2: probably are on top of, but TJ has caused twenty

760
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: five fumbles in his career. The all time record is

761
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: fifty two by Robert Mathis. I mean he has twenty

762
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 2: five fumble you know, getting the ball out and that's

763
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 2: as impressive as a sack number.

764
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's hard to do, especially coming from from the

765
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: front side.

766
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 2: But they see it coming right. I mean some of

767
00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: them are a guess running backs. But I mean he's

768
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 2: phenomenal at it. He's on pace to be the all

769
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 2: time leader.

770
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: On the ones that get me. Or when he comes

771
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: around and the quarterback's facing him and he just takes

772
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: the ball away, Yeah, he just steals his lunch money.

773
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 2: I'm sure you've noticed this too. But another thing he

774
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 2: does is sometimes he'll just punch people. Yeah, you know,

775
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 2: like he's kind of punching at the ball, but sometimes

776
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 2: he kind of hits him in the face or neck

777
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 2: or whatever.

778
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: Like he got called for that once.

779
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 2: He got called for it once. It's so worth it

780
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 2: if you only get called for once, or I've always

781
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 2: thought why not. I mean, you're almost allowed to punch

782
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 2: people out there pretending.

783
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: It looks like well, if you if you look at

784
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: the Ogan Joby strip from behind, yeah, it was violent.

785
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: That was Oh my god. Yeah, I don't know how

786
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: Justin Hill didn't break his arm. And he's lucky it

787
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: hit the ball, Hisgan Joby's hand hit the ball, because

788
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: otherwise he breaks out. Yeah, because Ogen Joby is a

789
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 1: big dude that's kind of thick to it.

790
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 2: Charles comparison. Yet, I mean, a two hundred pound back

791
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 2: that's built for speed and kind of built like a receiver,

792
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 2: and that guy's roaring. I went in with just a

793
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 2: top chop right right right, big right cross. Yeah. Yeah,

794
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 2: that's crazy stuff.

795
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: But I mean that was a big play in that

796
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: game on the ball. Yeah, I mean they had hit

797
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: the screen pass, it gets them over midfield and here

798
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: comes Ogan Joey knocks it out to set. That was

799
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: the one time that the Steelers got field position in

800
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: the first half and they turned it into points.

801
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you laid that out well, yes, yesterday. I mean,

802
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 2: their field position was so poor and when they did

803
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 2: have decent one, they scored.

804
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: They scored. It's amazing, amazing how it works. But yeah,

805
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: I just it just I keep looking at this and

806
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: reading different stuff, and well, the Ravens really blew that one.

807
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: They really they had that game and they just blew it.

808
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: And like you're not getting like the Steelers domin. First

809
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: of all, they dominated the fourth quarter. They outplayed the

810
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 1: Ravens in the third quarter.

811
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 2: There's also a stamina issue here, right, you know, like

812
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 2: I'm not saying they're in better shape or whatever, but

813
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 2: they stood. I did a Monday show with Rob King

814
00:35:58,360 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 2: and Wolf and I'm like, well, if you can have

815
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 2: quate to this, this was a boxing match. I mean,

816
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 2: the first three rounds you're getting hay makers to the face,

817
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 2: but at least your standing. You know, this thing's gonna

818
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 2: be a ten round fight, and you won it in

819
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 2: the eighth and ninth from the tenth round, you know,

820
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:10,479
Speaker 2: I mean.

821
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: Got the knockout.

822
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 2: Yeah right, I can remember that.

823
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: It was at one point, I want to say, late

824
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 1: in the third quarter looking at Marlon Humphrey and he

825
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: was he was out there with his hands on his

826
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: knees like he was win the physical, but he was winded.

827
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: I mean, he's coming back off of a foot injury. Right.

828
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 2: You know, I'm worried about Humphrey and Stanley. How much

829
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 2: as you've invested those guys that tackle and corner at

830
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 2: the you know, key key positions. Maybe they'll round in

831
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 2: the shape, but not young anymore either, mixing with like Odell.

832
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 2: You're not getting your investment out of those guys right now, right.

833
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: I mean we said when they made that signing that

834
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: was a that's eight million proven to be the case. Yeah,

835
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 1: it's just nuts. Anyways, we're gonna get to another break.

836
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853
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Speaker 2: We'll figure it out for you. We'll tell you.

854
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: I'll have to find out what this week's prize.

855
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Speaker 2: Give a good stuff.

856
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: Yeah they left that out, Brian Bryan, there's no prize here.

857
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 2: Get some prize.

858
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Speaker 1: You'll have to answer all the questions correctly. You get

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Speaker 1: a gold star from us.

860
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 2: Ye little pat on the back.

861
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: Oh it's a Jayalen Warren signed football. Nice How about that?

862
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: There you go, Jaylen Warren that name right now, Yeah,

863
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: very hot name right now.

864
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Speaker 2: He's played well, he's played really well. Yeah, you know

865
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 2: I thought that, you.

866
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: Know, going into Sundays, you know, I had thought Nause

867
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: was playing well. Obviously this was a tougher, tougher game

868
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: for him. What did you think of Roderick Jones play?

869
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Speaker 2: Oh, glad you wrote it up. I thought he was

870
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 2: really really good and really really encouraging. So, especially for

871
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 2: a rookie to get thrown in mid game, it is tough.

872
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 2: I mean it really is. Yes, you may have got

873
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 2: some reps with the Ones, but you didn't prepare as

874
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:47,720
Speaker 2: a starter.

875
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: And see that's so everybody. I've been doing this a

876
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: long time. Sure, in any time you ever talked to

877
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: a guy who's a backup, you know, how have you

878
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 1: prepared differently this week? No, I've prepared to be the starter.

879
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 2: Of course they say that, They say that, Yes, until

880
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 2: that's you're the starter. Sun. You get up a little earlier,

881
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 2: you lift a little extra weights, you know, stay there

882
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,720
Speaker 2: and watch a little more. You don't want to get embarrassed.

883
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 2: So there was a couple snaps that I thought Clowney

884
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 2: got the better of them.

885
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: Play.

886
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 2: He didn't show up much there were. He certainly still

887
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 2: needs technique work with his pass protection, but he looked

888
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 2: so much better. I mean, his physical gifts, which we

889
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 2: all know are there, shined more in this game to me.

890
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 2: Like he moved bodies better, he recovered better, just looked

891
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 2: a little more natural, like like he had played a

892
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 2: game before in the NFL as opposed to never playing

893
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 2: a game in the NFL.

894
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: And the Ravens throw a lot at you, they do,

895
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: they do, And yeah, I didn't see any bus that stuff.

896
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 2: I didn't either. I think he's got a chance to

897
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 2: be a really good player, like for the second half

898
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 2: of the season, not like three years from now. I mean,

899
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,439
Speaker 2: he's coming along well. Obviously he's been coached up, he's

900
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 2: obviously working hard. I wouldn't take him out the lineup,

901
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: and I don't dislike Dan Moore. I'd consider Dan Moore

902
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 2: as maybe the right tackle, maybe a sixth guy, you know,

903
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 2: maybe do more of that. But I think you have

904
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 2: to leave Jones in there a left tackle, and good,

905
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 2: that's a good problem to have.

906
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 1: I'd make I'd make Dan Moore my sixth guy across

907
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:22,919
Speaker 1: the board, except at center.

908
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'd also consider This is a lot

909
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 2: of change for a short line.

910
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: I know where you're going. I just I can't see

911
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: it happen.

912
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 2: I know, I think it's far fetched the pipe dream

913
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 2: for me. But if you put Daniels at center and

914
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 2: put more at right guard but he hasn't played guard, yeah,

915
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 2: I mean.

916
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: Her big could, I would feel better about that.

917
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 2: I don't think that happens.

918
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: I'd feel better about that if if you had a

919
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: veteran quarterback, no doubt, because Mason Cole makes so many

920
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: of that he helps with the calls and everything along.

921
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: You know you're gonna trust that. Now you're putting a

922
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 1: different voice in there with your with your second year quarterback.

923
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 1: Does he trust it as much as he trusts Mason Cole.

924
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 2: It's not been back there.

925
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: It's not been back there making the calls himself, absolutely,

926
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: you know, or you know, relying on Markue's pouncey to

927
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: do it.

928
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 2: Nobody thinks just that stuff. But by all accounts, Cole's

929
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 2: a very good at it. And you know, yes, Ciamolo

930
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 2: and guys like that are smart. Daniels could handle some

931
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 2: of that stuff too. But there's a center quarterback relationship,

932
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 2: and that's been Kenny center, you know what I mean.

933
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 2: So I don't think it happens, but I don't think

934
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 2: Cole's one of your best five right now.

935
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: One of the things that the Pickett talked about today

936
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: was he said that, you know, he was asked to

937
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: be on what changed last year the buy Week and

938
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: he said, Look, I'm not going to get into this

939
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 1: or that. He said, but you know, at the buy

940
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: you take some of the stuff that you're you're doing well,

941
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: and you try to accentuate that, and you take some

942
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: of the stuff that you're not doing well and maybe

943
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: just throw that out exactly like we wanted to try this.

944
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: We tried it for five games, didn't work, get rid

945
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: of it.

946
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 2: Let's not waste their time on it. We tried it enough,

947
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 2: we repped it enough. Let's concentrate on what we're doing well. Yeah,

948
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I think there's a lot of value in

949
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 2: a buy for a lot of those reasons. And and

950
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 2: also go home and see your family for a couple

951
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 2: of days and.

952
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: Don't think about football for the next couple of days.

953
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 2: I say, and you're still thinking about football the commune.

954
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: You're always you know like that, you always do it.

955
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 2: But it's just a different perspect you do staring at

956
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 2: the projector and with your bodies with the big chew

957
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 2: in you know, in the dark. You know, like you're

958
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 2: sitting around, you know at night.

959
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: That sounds great.

960
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 2: You're sitting around a night on your own time, on

961
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 2: your porch with a cigar and a bourbon or whatever.

962
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 2: Going Huh, maybe that experiment I tried isn't worth it anymore. Yeah,

963
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 2: it's it's just a different perspective.

964
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 1: It does allow you just take a step back, take

965
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 1: a breath if you think about this. Uh, you know,

966
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 1: from the time you report the training camp through this

967
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: period whenever your buy it happens to be. I mean,

968
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: it's just football, football, football, football, football.

969
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 2: And you build a plan and you're sticking with it,

970
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 2: you know, and it doesn't mean all your plans were

971
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 2: the right ones, you know, like, boy, we explored all

972
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 2: this avenue, like you said, and what if we just

973
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 2: scrap that whole avenue? You know, Okay, there we go.

974
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll see you know, I know, the coaching

975
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 1: staffs on both sides of the ball. You start taking

976
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: a look at, a good hard look at you know,

977
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: how you're doing things, who you're doing it with, what

978
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,760
Speaker 1: you're asking those guys to do and maybe you realize,

979
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: come to the realization here, hey, we can't ask this

980
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 1: guy to do that, and you know right, he's not capable.

981
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: And with so many new guys on this roster this year,

982
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: perhaps this by being earlier this year, could be.

983
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 2: Better, could be better better, especially considered their health situations.

984
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah too, I mean if they can I keep thinking

985
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 2: about last year. But if they would have quote, fixed

986
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 2: things in week six and not week nine, well maybe

987
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 2: you get a winner two more, you know what I mean,

988
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 2: if you simplify things, maybe you know, bye before the

989
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 2: Dolphins game or something like that Week one more album

990
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 2: you didn't or something along those lines. Like every team

991
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 2: has these issues, but they've asked Friarmouth block a lot

992
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 2: of defensive ends.

993
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: Maybe you don't do that.

994
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 2: Maybe that's note, maybe that's not.

995
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: Maybe if you again, that's sixth offensive line pack, Yeah,

996
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 1: sixth offensive line package. Now maybe you say, you know what,

997
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 1: in those situations.

998
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 2: And we're out there next to Jones or Chokes or whatever,

999
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 2: because that would be a pretty good and Pat, we've

1000
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 2: been asking you to be a square peg in a

1001
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 2: round hole. You should be detached in the slot in

1002
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 2: that situation in a big power package, you know, and

1003
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 2: you're still going to block a linebacker or something, but

1004
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 2: you're not gonna ask We're not.

1005
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: Right.

1006
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 2: I mean, there's been too much of that. I think

1007
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 2: the secondary needs to really look at themselves, you know, like,

1008
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 2: who are our best guys, how's the best way to

1009
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 2: use them? Wrote an article today about I think Porter

1010
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 2: needs to be He's got to be.

1011
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: It's got to be on the field.

1012
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 2: He has to be.

1013
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: The time has come.

1014
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, the corners are a problem and they have to

1015
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: evaluate that. I mean, that's a big thing to do.

1016
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 2: I don't know if they'll do this. It's a bigger

1017
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 2: project than you think. And you could do it to

1018
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 2: different degrees, but a lot of times going to buy

1019
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 2: the head coach will go to both sides the ball

1020
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 2: and say, game plan for our offense, game plan for

1021
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 2: our defense, and be honest, don't pretend like it's your buddy,

1022
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 2: present it to me. How would you attack our offense? Okay?

1023
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,479
Speaker 2: You know, and you see if your coaches are true

1024
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 2: and going to tell you the truth and or are

1025
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 2: they going to try to protect their buddies, you know,

1026
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 2: and they'll see things that they see every day in practice,

1027
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 2: like you're giving away this or this, splits packages.

1028
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: See, I think you would do that all the time.

1029
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 2: There's just not enough time in a week, I understand.

1030
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: I would you know, you practice against each other over

1031
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,720
Speaker 1: the course of training camp. You know what the strengths

1032
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: and weaknesses are of everything that you're doing. Yeah, you

1033
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: can have those those discussions in that two week period

1034
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: now after training camp, between that and the start of

1035
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 1: the season, and some.

1036
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 2: Of that stuff definitely does happen. Especially I always remember

1037
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 2: a pit. I mean, our O line coach and our

1038
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 2: D line coach were Tom Freeman and Bob Junco And

1039
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 2: people might know Bob's name, and his sons have gone

1040
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 2: to do things, and they were, to put it mildly,

1041
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 2: the grizzled old veterans typical line coach is tremendous human beings.

1042
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 2: They were the most into recruiting. They understood everything, and

1043
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,439
Speaker 2: they both drove into work together from Upper Saint Clair

1044
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 2: and they both drove home together. And during practice, you're

1045
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 2: holding me your guys cheating blah blah blah blah, spitting

1046
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,439
Speaker 2: and scratching, and but then they have lunch and they're

1047
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 2: like your nose tackle showing me this or you know,

1048
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 2: like you know, like they sit there because their buds

1049
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 2: are on the way home. They're probably arguing and saying,

1050
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 2: why aren't you playing the backup left tackle. He's going

1051
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 2: to be much better than this guy, you know, Like

1052
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 2: it's that that happens on all staffs. They've spent a

1053
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:24,919
Speaker 2: lot of time together.

1054
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, they spend a lot of time, more time they

1055
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: do with their families.

1056
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's why this buye could be good. Like

1057
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 2: go see your family a little bit, recoup, sleep a

1058
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 2: little bit.

1059
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you probably get to like Thursday and Friday are

1060
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: probably big study days for the for the coaching staff,

1061
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: maybe even Wednesday since the players aren't there. Uh, but

1062
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: then Friday, Saturday or Saturday Sunday, spend time with your

1063
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: family and your family.

1064
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can still think about things. You'll still work,

1065
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 2: but I mean model On or you know, it's gonna

1066
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 2: do something right.

1067
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 1: I don't know, just so we do a left time

1068
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: in model On again.

1069
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 2: Uh.

1070
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: Anyway, we're gonna get to another break. He is Matt Williamson.

1071
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: I am Dale, Lollie. You're listening to the drive here

1072
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with the Fantasy

1073
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: football focus right after this, Let's go play football.

1074
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 3: Always talking Black and Gold football on SNR