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Speaker 1: to get into and Lance before we go any further,
Speaker 1: you have any memories of Dennis Kndrey.
Speaker 5: I never met him. The only Midnight Express member I
Speaker 5: ever met really was Jimmy and Bobby, and even Bobby
Speaker 5: was only one time. Obviously saw some of his work,
Speaker 5: although again it was Stan and Bobby by the time
Speaker 5: I was a regular fan. I did go back when
Speaker 5: I was able to find the videotape of the first
Speaker 5: Scaffold match, which I believe was Dennis and Bobby. Never
Speaker 5: heard anything but good things about his work. But yeah,
Speaker 5: it was not a person I ever met.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, you've seen many of his matches. Well, yeah, when
Speaker 1: we go back in Yeah, Jim Cornett had a big
Speaker 1: update on on on his death yesterday, very sad. Actually,
Speaker 1: apparently he was just at his house and he'd had
Speaker 1: I think four it was two. He'd well, he had
Speaker 1: multiple bouts of cancer, and I believe he'd already had
Speaker 1: so much work done on his neck. And apparently his
Speaker 1: wife was at work and he was supposed to pick
Speaker 1: her up and he wasn't there, and she called and
Speaker 1: nobody answered, and he wasn't there, and they went to
Speaker 1: the house and he'd suffered a fall and he'd broken
Speaker 1: his neck and he was still alive, but he was
Speaker 1: like paralyzed, and they tried to get him to the
Speaker 1: hospital and he ended up passing away. But sad, the
Speaker 1: sad part of the story. I mean, it's all sad,
Speaker 1: but one of the really sad parts of the story
Speaker 1: is his wife. It wasn't that long. It was like
Speaker 1: a very short period of time. She was she was
Speaker 1: going to retire, and he was just he could not
Speaker 1: wait for her to retire. It was like, I don't
Speaker 1: know if it was months or I mean, it was
Speaker 1: a very short period of time and he couldn't wait
Speaker 1: for to retire. There was to spend all this time
Speaker 1: together and right before it happened. This happened. So very
Speaker 1: sad story. There is a go fundme that has been
Speaker 1: set up and lots of people have donated. I actually
Speaker 1: don't have the link, but I'll try and find it
Speaker 1: during the break and tweet it out. But really sad story.
Speaker 1: All the best to her, and that's what happened. So
Speaker 1: that's the latest on Dennis Condrey. I guess in I
Speaker 1: suppose this is I mean, it's good news for the family,
Speaker 1: but Sid Vicious, who also passed away of cancer a
Speaker 1: little over a year ago. I think it was twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four. Well, it was announced today that he is
Speaker 1: going into the WWE Hall of Fame, and his family
Speaker 1: obviously is very happy about this. And I'm happy to
Speaker 1: see Sid go in because I loved Sid Vicious. And
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit here and tell you that he
Speaker 1: was the best wrestler I ever saw in my life,
Speaker 1: but you know what, he was.
Speaker 5: A tremendous professional wrestler.
Speaker 1: Cally, he was a great He was you know they
Speaker 1: always go if you if you wanted to build a
Speaker 1: wrestler from the ground up, it would be Randy Orton,
Speaker 1: That's all lie, It would be Sid. Sid was everything
Speaker 1: you can imagine a pro wrestler being. I mean he
Speaker 1: was tall, he was gigantic, he was like just a
Speaker 1: complete maniac. I mean, I just for those of you,
Speaker 1: I mean, does anyone not remember Sid Vicious. Sid Vicious
Speaker 1: have been around for like forever, And he started out
Speaker 1: in World Championship Wrestling and obviously went to WWE and
Speaker 1: had a run there and then went back to WCW
Speaker 1: and like everything that this guy did, it was like
Speaker 1: there was everywhere he went. Everywhere he went, in everything,
Speaker 1: everything that he did, there was always a story about Sid. So, like,
Speaker 1: you know, he started in you know, actually Continental and
Speaker 1: then went to New Japan and ended up getting signed
Speaker 1: for World Championship Wrestling, and they put him together with
Speaker 1: Dan Spivey as the Skyscrapers, and then he ends up
Speaker 1: in the Four Horsemen, and you know, he's one of
Speaker 1: the four members of this stable, and you know he's
Speaker 1: on his way to being this big star. And then
Speaker 1: he quits and he goes to WWF and of course
Speaker 1: they can't call him Sid Vicious because it's Vince, so
Speaker 1: they have to call him Sid Justice. And he ends
Speaker 1: up in that famous nineteen ninety two Royal Rumble where
Speaker 1: Rick Flaer came out I think at number three, and
Speaker 1: he went the entire way and he won and he
Speaker 1: ended up with a vacant title. But they had the angle,
Speaker 1: like the end of the matcher is like four guys,
Speaker 1: It's Flair, Hogan, Macho Man, Randy Savage, and Sid like
Speaker 1: four big stars. At the end, one of these guys
Speaker 1: is gonna end up the champion. So Macho Man ends
Speaker 1: up getting tossed out of the ring and so it's
Speaker 1: down to Rick Flair, Hulk Hogan, and Sid Okay. Sid
Speaker 1: is supposed to be a heel, Hogan is supposed to
Speaker 1: be a babyface. But if you remember Hogan during this period,
Speaker 1: like people were already sick of this guy number one
Speaker 1: and number two, like he was always cheating and he
Speaker 1: was just like a despicable So, uh, he ends up
Speaker 1: getting dumped out of the ring fairly fairly, and it's
Speaker 1: down to Rick Flair and Sid Okay. But Hogan grabs
Speaker 1: Sid from the outside after being eliminated, and he starts
Speaker 1: yanking on Sid, and Rick Flair goes and he dumps
Speaker 1: Sid over and Rick Flair wins the time. Of course,
Speaker 1: everybody goes crazy because you know, Flair won everything like that,
Speaker 1: but like they immediately turned on Hulk Hogan. And I
Speaker 1: remember this as a kid, because they would air these
Speaker 1: shows on pay per view and then they would sell
Speaker 1: a VHS of the pay per view. Okay, now, not everybody,
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people had had VCRs, but
Speaker 1: not everybody was like taping all of the pay per
Speaker 1: views and watching them one over and over again. But
Speaker 1: I was, and I remembered Hogan getting booed when he
Speaker 1: threw Sid out of the ring, and later I ended
Speaker 1: up getting the videotape. I watched it and they edited
Speaker 1: in cheers for Hulk Hogan and I was like, this
Speaker 1: is BS, what is this? So of course, you know,
Speaker 1: everybody turns on Hogan and they're all int Sid. And
Speaker 1: that was the year that for WrestleMania, and everybody thought
Speaker 1: it was gonna be Hulk Hogan versus Rick Flair because
Speaker 1: that's the obvious match, Hulk Hogan versus Rick Flair. You know,
Speaker 1: they'd never done it on pay per view and everything,
Speaker 1: but I guess they gone all around the horn and
Speaker 1: uh and they felt they burned it out. And so
Speaker 1: even though they initially announced the match as as Hulk
Speaker 1: Hogan versus Rick Flair, it was never the plan and
Speaker 1: they ended up changing. It ended up being Hogan versus
Speaker 1: Sid and Rick Flair versus Rady Savage, which was an
Speaker 1: incredible match by the way, that Rick Flair Randy Savage match,
Speaker 1: it was great. And so you know, Hogan and Sid
Speaker 1: go in there and I think that I guess the
Speaker 1: finish was supposed to be Hogan is supposed to pin
Speaker 1: the guy with a leg drop, but Sid just decided
Speaker 1: that don't work for me, brother, so he kicks out
Speaker 1: of the leg drop.
Speaker 5: And then that when Papa Shango was supposed to make
Speaker 5: the saving time and didn't, I.
Speaker 1: Think he just I think he kicked out. But regardless,
Speaker 1: like they did some sort of finish and uh maybe
Speaker 1: maybe Papa, I'm sure Papa Shango maybe it was part
Speaker 1: of it. But Sid kicked out is the point he
Speaker 1: kicks out of the leg drop and then uh, they
Speaker 1: end up doing I think it was the actual finish
Speaker 1: was a disqualification.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he was supposed to save to protect Sid,
Speaker 5: and Sid wasn't gonna lay there and get the three count.
Speaker 1: Well one way to the other. Sid then quits again,
Speaker 1: goes back to World Championship Wrestling, and he has a
Speaker 1: run there for a while, and uh, I think that
Speaker 1: was when he went back, he was in line for
Speaker 1: the w CW title. But there was an incident where
Speaker 1: everybody was in the bar after the show and Sid
Speaker 1: starts just bragging. He goes, yeah, you know, yeah, everyone
Speaker 1: talks about how Arn and flare these great workers, but
Speaker 1: I don't even need to I don't even need to work.
Speaker 1: I'm just a you know. He he's just bragging and
Speaker 1: just being an idiot and uh and they got they
Speaker 1: got hot, and so Arne ends up going to his Uh,
Speaker 1: he ends up going to his room in the hotel,
Speaker 1: and Arn's gonna you know, he starts banging on the
Speaker 1: door and Sid ends up coming out with scissors and
Speaker 1: they get in this huge fight and Sid just like
Speaker 1: stabs this guy over and over again multiple times. It's
Speaker 1: like a big it's a big to do. And yeah,
Speaker 1: that was the end of Sid again, and then he
Speaker 1: goes back to WWF and had another run as Psycho.
Speaker 1: Sid ends up in there with Sean Michaels does the
Speaker 1: old bodyguard gimmick and then they do the big turn
Speaker 1: and you know, every it was like every year Sid
Speaker 1: would just disappear to go play softball. It was like,
Speaker 1: you know, it didn't matter what was going on, he'd
Speaker 1: go off to play softball. Then he would come back
Speaker 1: and he was always over with the fans no matter
Speaker 1: what he did. And eventually, when that WWF run ended,
Speaker 1: he went back to w CW had another run and
Speaker 1: then finally at the end he did that spot that
Speaker 1: he didn't want to do. They were talking to him
Speaker 1: into doing this jumping kick off the middle rope, which
Speaker 1: why would Sid jump off the middle rope and do
Speaker 1: a kick and of course he lands, he just shatters
Speaker 1: his leg. I mean, it was one of the brutal
Speaker 1: injuries in the history of wrestling, right there on pay
Speaker 1: per view. And that was the end of his career.
Speaker 1: So now he's back for the Hall of Fame and
Speaker 1: we'll get into that after the Breakers over Life.
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Speaker 1: Well, thanks to Death of ww available right now at
Speaker 1: Amazon dot com or thanks to me, Well, I looked
Speaker 1: it up after you said, So, what actually happened was
Speaker 1: they were in the bar, and I guess I guess
Speaker 1: it started with Sid saying that they want me to
Speaker 1: put over Sting and I ain't gonna do it. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna demand another one hundred thousand dollars to do it,
Speaker 1: And so he says he'd be up like six hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars a year, and then he starts making fun
Speaker 1: of Arn because Arn had just gotten a pay cut
Speaker 1: to one hundred thousand dollars a year. So Sid starts saying, well,
Speaker 1: you know it's fitting I make so much money. You
Speaker 1: guys don't make nothing because you old dinosaurs Flare and
Speaker 1: Arn you need to be out of here. And Mike
Speaker 1: ways guys like me, I'll make this sport great again.
Speaker 1: So of course Arn gets hot and they almost got
Speaker 1: in a fight in the bar, but it got separated
Speaker 1: and then they both got sent back to their rooms.
Speaker 1: So once they got back to their rooms, that's when
Speaker 1: Sid got the chair leg. He broke off a wooden
Speaker 1: chair leg. Sid goes to Arne's room. He's banging on
Speaker 1: Arn's door. So Arn is the one that first had
Speaker 1: the scissors. So Sid ends up in the room and
Speaker 1: then each man has their own story. But Arn claims
Speaker 1: that Sid went after him with the chair leg, and
Speaker 1: so he defended himself with the scissors. Sid actually got
Speaker 1: stabbed a couple of times, but then Arn got lost
Speaker 1: the scissors and then Sid got ahold of him, and
Speaker 1: then he stabbed Arn from head to toe and that
Speaker 1: was that was the end of that run.
Speaker 5: And they avoided criminal charges because they were in the UK,
Speaker 5: and the UK just said, get out of our country
Speaker 5: and it's not our problem.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then you know there was a moment like
Speaker 1: years later. I mean this was probably ninety nine or
Speaker 1: two thousand where both guys were back in World Championship
Speaker 1: Wrestling and they end up in the ring together for
Speaker 1: an angle and Sid did walk over and he shook
Speaker 1: Ron's hand and they didn't make a big deal out
Speaker 1: of it or anything like that, but that's what happened.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that jump off the middle rope, I guess
Speaker 1: it was a double compound fracture of his leg. He
Speaker 1: like landed on the ground on one leg, legs snapped,
Speaker 1: falls on his back. His leg is just dangling like
Speaker 1: it was so disgusting. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 6: I was.
Speaker 5: There was around when Johnny Ace kept insisting he do it,
Speaker 5: and Sid said he didn't want to do it, he
Speaker 5: was afraid he would break his leg. And Johnny basically
Speaker 5: said quit complaining, it's easy, just do it. And he
Speaker 5: did it and legit broke his leg and was not
Speaker 5: happy afterwards.
Speaker 1: I remember, like when he broke the leg, it was
Speaker 1: like so gruesome, but then the word was it might
Speaker 1: not be so bad because it's such a clean break
Speaker 1: that I guess like they figured they could just like
Speaker 1: you know, put a put a rod in it or whatever,
Speaker 1: and he'd be he'd be back quick. Never the same again.
Speaker 1: I mean, he was never the same again.
Speaker 5: So he had.
Speaker 1: Incredible promos, some of the funniest unintentional comedy ever in
Speaker 1: his promos. That line I'm twice the man with half
Speaker 1: the brain. He had some he had some preposterous.
Speaker 5: Line everybody knows that I'm twice the man that you are.
Speaker 5: Everybody knows I have half the brain that you do.
Speaker 5: Then there's in the ring belly laughing.
Speaker 1: Yes, it was incredible.
Speaker 5: I think the again, first time I saw Sid was
Speaker 5: Great American Bash eighty nine. It was the skyscrapers and
Speaker 5: he was so over it was just incredible. But I
Speaker 5: think my my standout memory of him is the one
Speaker 5: of him on Nitro standing on the crushed car, jumping
Speaker 5: up and down, screaming.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, was he screaming somebody's name?
Speaker 5: Whoever did Yeah, he crushed his car.
Speaker 1: It was something like that. And then I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: didn't he win the WWF title when he hit Jose
Speaker 1: Lathario with that camera and then like that like cheered
Speaker 1: him like crazy. He killed this old man. It was like, literally,
Speaker 1: it's Sean Michaels versus versus Sid. It's like this always
Speaker 1: happened with Sid because Sid had a look and he
Speaker 1: had a personality. People loved him and like he came
Speaker 1: off as a really likable guy. And so they're doing
Speaker 1: this match with Sean Michaels and and uh in Sid.
Speaker 1: It was Survivor series and Sid's supposed to be the
Speaker 1: heel and Sean is there's the baby face with Jose
Speaker 1: Lothario who's like his trainer and he's like this old man,
Speaker 1: and the finish is supposed to be Sid hits Jose
Speaker 1: Lathario with the camera and Jse's supposed to sell it
Speaker 1: like he's actually having a heart attack, Like Sid killed
Speaker 1: this guy. Man. Sid hits this guy with the thing.
Speaker 1: They start going crazy for him, they're so happy, and
Speaker 1: then of course he ends up winning the title and
Speaker 1: they just go nuts. So it was always like this.
Speaker 1: He was always He always got over, even when he
Speaker 1: was not supposed to. So I'm happy to see Sid
Speaker 1: going into the Hall of Fame. I was always ah.
Speaker 5: Now he's going in as a legacy candidate, which to
Speaker 5: me means no speeches, just a video package.
Speaker 1: I guess we'll find out the thing with all of
Speaker 1: fame is there are no rules. I mean, they do
Speaker 1: whatever they're gonna do. I mean, listen, if we're being honest,
Speaker 1: being honest, what are the chances Dennis Rodmin is gonna
Speaker 1: make it.
Speaker 5: Or stay awake and be coherent. Probably, I don't know
Speaker 5: what kind of shape he's in now. He had his
Speaker 5: moment back in the day.
Speaker 1: Well, the point is, it's a Friday night in Las
Speaker 1: Vegas at ten o'clock. I mean, there's a decent chance
Speaker 1: they might want to have somebody on hand, a stand
Speaker 1: by induction. So we'll see what they do. I hope,
Speaker 1: I hope Old Gunner, his son gets to go out
Speaker 1: there and do a speech and really let the world
Speaker 1: know about sid. All right, what else do we have?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: This brock Lesnar thing I was dying. Brock Lesner was
Speaker 1: on this podcast and he was talking about his most
Speaker 1: recent WWE run and he said they was very happy
Speaker 1: to be back in WWE for quote a short A
Speaker 1: lot of rumors that brock Listener is going to retire
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six, and he says, I was a shooter,
Speaker 1: an amateur guy. I had a lot of credentials to
Speaker 1: my name. Of course I got tested along the way
Speaker 1: by the old timers and the guys. Oh yeah, you
Speaker 1: have to pay your dues back then you paid your
Speaker 1: dues and you had to get your respect. I can
Speaker 1: only imagine the people that decide, you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna test this brock Lesnar. I don't remember this. It's
Speaker 1: different now, obviously, he says. Things have gotten a lot softer.
Speaker 1: There's no more kangaroo courts. It's different now. But I mean,
Speaker 1: I go there and I'm the old guy now. And
Speaker 1: so they asked him, why did you come back for
Speaker 1: this run to hear this answer?
Speaker 5: No, but I can guess what it was.
Speaker 1: I swear to God, he says. I went back to
Speaker 1: work so I could feed my kids. You guys should
Speaker 1: see my grocery bill. I left the company years ago.
Speaker 1: I'm grateful that I'm back for a short time here.
Speaker 1: I'm grateful for all of the opportunities I had in
Speaker 1: my life now. Obviously, I mean, the reason he was
Speaker 1: gone for several years was everything that went down with
Speaker 1: Janelle Grant. He was persona on grata for a while,
Speaker 1: and then I mean, I presume they just figured, well,
Speaker 1: you know, he hasn't been charged with anything, so you know,
Speaker 1: we'll bring him back. But the thing about I came
Speaker 1: back to work so I could feed my kids. Do
Speaker 1: you know how much this man has made in this
Speaker 1: business for the last twenty years. I don't care if
Speaker 1: he's got a thousand kids, one thousand brock Lessner sized children.
Speaker 1: This guy, he lives on a farm. He spends no money.
Speaker 1: Last I heard, he didn't even have like a like
Speaker 1: a television. He just hunts all day. Like I don't
Speaker 1: think it would have been possible for him to spend
Speaker 1: even a year's amount of money that he's made over
Speaker 1: the past twenty years. So anyway, it's coming back so
Speaker 1: we can feed his kids. That guy probably is worth
Speaker 1: like has to be thirty million dollars or something crazy.
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy made so much this they brought
Speaker 1: this guy back for like five million dollars for like
Speaker 1: three matches a year for years and years and years
Speaker 1: and years and years. But anyway, he's back to feed
Speaker 1: his kids, which.
Speaker 5: Is just another way of saying he's back for the money, which.
Speaker 1: Of course, which is why people go to work, all right,
Speaker 1: tell me about uh, I mean, he doesn't have to
Speaker 1: buy his rabbis, he just cooks them. He hunts and
Speaker 1: cooks them. Anyway, tell me about your Netflix experience.
Speaker 5: Yes, watching Raw last night, I was again frustrated by
Speaker 5: the commercials. I was enjoying the show, got hit with
Speaker 5: the block of commercials, went to my phone and realized,
Speaker 5: I'm no longer actually paying attention to Raw even though
Speaker 5: the commercials are over, and it's frustrating me. But the
Speaker 5: great part last night, I'm sleeping. I'm in bed sleeping
Speaker 5: and I have a dream and the dream is I'm
Speaker 5: back on the roster working in WWE, and I find
Speaker 5: out I'm getting to work with Shawn Michaels. Imagine I'm
Speaker 5: pretty excited about this. Yeah, But so I asked, was like,
Speaker 5: what are we doing? And the producer and Vince bring
Speaker 5: over the format sheet and I look at it and
Speaker 5: it's actually like an iPad screen and it's covered in
Speaker 5: pop up ads like really bad websites, and it's like
Speaker 5: none of them can get past all the ads to
Speaker 5: tell me what I'm actually doing with Shawn Michaels. And
Speaker 5: I'm getting angrier and angrier because I figure I'm going
Speaker 5: to miss my match with Shawn Michaels because all these
Speaker 5: bloody ads and I woke up furious and realized that
Speaker 5: this is the anger I get from watching Raw with ADS,
Speaker 5: that it's now into my brain and I'm having bad
Speaker 5: dreams based on my life in wrestling being ruined by ADS.
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Speaker 1: So I like to watch RAW on the iPad, Me too, yep,
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, for ever, I would watch it
Speaker 1: starting about a half hour after the show ended, and
Speaker 1: it would just run right through, no commercials, would just
Speaker 1: skip from one segment to the next. Never had to
Speaker 1: watch commercials except when they went overseas, and then there
Speaker 1: would be these unskippable commercials, which I hated. And then
Speaker 1: but then they would come back. Everything would be fine.
Speaker 1: And about a month ago, all of a sudden, in
Speaker 1: a show in the US, there were the unskippable commercials,
Speaker 1: and I was like, God, I hate these things. And
Speaker 1: the only the only device I can watch on where
Speaker 1: I can actually skip the commercials is on the laptop.
Speaker 1: I can't skip them. On Apple TV, I can't skip them.
Speaker 1: On the iPad, I can't skip I So when I
Speaker 1: can't skip the ads. I have to end up watching it.
Speaker 1: I have to just get on my tiny little laptop
Speaker 1: and I do this split screen. I watch raw in
Speaker 1: this tiny window just so I can skip through the commercials.
Speaker 1: And it's just a horrible experience. So last week, everything
Speaker 1: was great to watch on the iPad, you know, no commercials,
Speaker 1: just moved right to the next thing. Everything was great.
Speaker 1: I thought, Okay, they got it fixed. Everything's cool. Well
Speaker 1: last night I turned it on. I watched the Oba
Speaker 1: Family segment and they go to break and there's that
Speaker 1: stupid screen. Here come the unskippable ads and you just
Speaker 1: see that thing up in the corner, eight ads coming
Speaker 1: and like, as I just thought, you gotta be kidding
Speaker 1: me again, I gotta watch this on my tiny screen
Speaker 1: on my laptop again. I just want to watch it
Speaker 1: on my iPad. And that stupid screen came up and
Speaker 1: I hit the FOURD button and nothing happened. Hit the
Speaker 1: four button, nothing happened. And at that point, like I
Speaker 1: could have just done what I normally do, which is
Speaker 1: turn it off and get on, but I was just
Speaker 1: like I hit my wall and like I started. I
Speaker 1: can't say it on the air, but I was like
Speaker 1: f you Netflix, and I started and so I just
Speaker 1: started hitting forward. I just started hitting it, even though
Speaker 1: I was gonna do nothing, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: it just was in the next segment, and I went
Speaker 1: what So I watched the next segment and like they
Speaker 1: they go to the next and it's another unskippable commercial
Speaker 1: and I was like, no, I'm gonna do this again,
Speaker 1: and I just I just kept hitting it and like
Speaker 1: nothing happened, Like it was like my I wasn't doing anything,
Speaker 1: but I kept hitting it, and all of a sudden, boom,
Speaker 1: it was in the next segment. I willed, I willed
Speaker 1: past these commercials.
Speaker 5: Rage click and so I raged.
Speaker 1: Clicked the entire night and I had no commercials. I
Speaker 1: just had to rage click. It was like, no, I
Speaker 1: am not watching this commercial.
Speaker 5: And it worked so well for an answer.
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is gonna work every week,
Speaker 1: but like it worked this week and it it Uh.
Speaker 1: It's a tip for everybody. Just get really angry, curse Netflix,
Speaker 1: and don't give up on that thing until it just
Speaker 1: goes past the commercial.
Speaker 5: Hey yeah, yeah, I don't think I got my first
Speaker 5: unskippable commercial block until the Bailey Wow.
Speaker 1: The Bailey tag. You know, I uh, everyone keeps bringing
Speaker 1: up vpn. Guys, Listen, I realize that we live in
Speaker 1: a selfish society. Okay, I am trying to solve this
Speaker 1: problem for everyone. Yes, I could get a VPN. What
Speaker 1: I want is for what I pay for to be
Speaker 1: delivered to me, which is the ad free Netflix experience.
Speaker 1: I ain't the only one that's paying for ad free Netflix,
Speaker 1: and I ain't the only one who's paying and has
Speaker 1: to sit through commercials. I am trying to help everybody.
Speaker 1: If I only cared about myself, i'd have had a
Speaker 1: VPN a long time ago. I don't like everyone to
Speaker 1: have to suffer. Guys. This was trending on Twitter last night.
Speaker 1: It was all over Twitter. Everybody was having the same problem.
Speaker 1: It sucks. I want to help you guys and myself.
Speaker 1: I'm not selfishly just trying to watch it without commercials.
Speaker 5: Anyway, what country would you need to set your VPN
Speaker 5: to because Canada gets the unskippable commercials.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'm sure I get the UK.
Speaker 1: Apparently I could get a VPN and watch Raw in
Speaker 1: the UK, just like Stephanie McMahon suggested, in her podcast.
Speaker 1: But you know what, I'm here for all of you.
Speaker 1: I'm one of you. We shouldn't all have to buy
Speaker 1: a VPN to like get what we're already paying for,
Speaker 1: which is an ad free experience on Netflix. I'm paying
Speaker 1: like thirty bucks a month for no ads, So what
Speaker 1: am I getting ads for? Stop it? It goes for
Speaker 1: everybody watching the show? All right, let's talk about it.
Speaker 1: Do you think of raw?
Speaker 5: I thought there was a few really good segments, and
Speaker 5: again there was quite a few segments in the middle
Speaker 5: that were hitting me with the those ads that I
Speaker 5: went to my phone as these seven ads were playing,
Speaker 5: and I realized that the show had come back and
Speaker 5: I wasn't really paying attention. So there's stuff in the middle.
Speaker 5: I didn't really watch. But I thought the Oba Brock
Speaker 5: thing was really strong and could be a candidate for
Speaker 5: a main event. And I thought also the punk Roman
Speaker 5: thing was pretty strong.
Speaker 1: All right, as you opened up with the Oba Brock
Speaker 1: recap from last week, and then Brock came down to
Speaker 1: the ring and they did the whole speech and out
Speaker 1: comes Oba Femi. Man, these people went nuts for this.
Speaker 5: Ski dude is over.
Speaker 1: He was so over and he gets in the ring
Speaker 1: and they have a brawl and Brock tries the F
Speaker 1: five and Oba slips behind and clothes signs and this
Speaker 1: dude went fall lying over the top rope.
Speaker 5: For this guy, Brock's a great bumper and sellar. People
Speaker 5: don't realize it.
Speaker 1: I realize I've realized that for years. Like this guy
Speaker 1: goes flying for people when it's time, and then he
Speaker 1: looks on and he's all frustrated and heads to the back,
Speaker 1: and it was like, this is two weeks in a row,
Speaker 1: but Oba has got one over on Brock. I hope
Speaker 1: they're not thinking what I think they're thinking, which islet's
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty this thing. Oba Femi needs to beat
Speaker 1: Brock and Mania. He needs to just run rough shot
Speaker 1: on the guy. I mean, they need to do that
Speaker 1: Goldberg Brock match that they did twice, actually the quick match,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it was it was quite the segment here.
Speaker 1: Then we had dumb kind of promo with the match
Speaker 1: with Penta tonight. He's upset about Finn and says he's
Speaker 1: the king of the luchadors, whoso's versus Vision. So this
Speaker 1: is so bizarre. So originally this was going to be
Speaker 1: a title match. They announced it was going to be
Speaker 1: a title match last week, then they randomly changed it
Speaker 1: to a non title match, and it was like, why
Speaker 1: did they announce a title match and then change it. Well,
Speaker 1: it turns out they're.
Speaker 3: Doing that.
Speaker 1: That Netflix deal on Wednesday. Is it the MLB season
Speaker 1: opener or whatever they're doing. They're doing a big thing
Speaker 1: on Wednesday on Netflix MLB opening Day and the USO's
Speaker 1: are gonna be there, and as silly as this is,
Speaker 1: they want them there with the belts. Okay, well finish,
Speaker 1: they still have that. That's the point. Like I was
Speaker 1: so astounded because I was basically told like, this is
Speaker 1: why it got changed, because they want them to bring
Speaker 1: the belts to Wednesday. So I'm watching this going all right, well,
Speaker 1: I guess they're gonna lose and set up another match. No,
Speaker 1: it was a DQ finish, so it didn't even matter
Speaker 1: if the titles were on the line. So anyway, Jay
Speaker 1: Uso ended up using the nuts for a DQ and
Speaker 1: they announced they're gonna do a title match next week
Speaker 1: in MSG, so that's probably gonna be a title change.
Speaker 1: But like, this was so bizarre. There were so many
Speaker 1: bizarre things. There's another one coming up here, which is this.
Speaker 5: The first time Great Wall had regular gear and tights. Well,
Speaker 5: that's later looked a million times better.
Speaker 1: That was a different match.
Speaker 5: Okay, that's yeah. I'm thinking this is.
Speaker 1: Logan and theory, all right.
Speaker 3: Sorry.
Speaker 1: Then we had clips of the Roman and Paul's segment,
Speaker 1: and then Becky came down to the ring and did
Speaker 1: a promo about how her daughter is a huge fan
Speaker 1: of AJ. She can't handle it. She's got to get
Speaker 1: her out of her life. And so AJ comes out
Speaker 1: and says, well, I need to get you out of
Speaker 1: my life, and so the best way to do that
Speaker 1: is to embarrass you in front of all of the
Speaker 1: fans at WRESTLEMANI and tap you out. So she's offering.
Speaker 1: AJ is offering Becky a title match. Becky accepts. She goes, well,
Speaker 1: that's great because this is my show. And eleven years
Speaker 1: ago you walked into the office after Many and Vegas
Speaker 1: or wherever it was and you quit, So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: make you do it again. Certainly seemed like AJ might
Speaker 1: actually retain, which I didn't think was gonna happen, but
Speaker 1: Becky is very cocky about this. Then we had the
Speaker 1: Javon Greason Waller MA, which yes, Grayson Waller, he's gotten
Speaker 1: tights instead of those MMA trunks. He's absolutely shredded. He
Speaker 1: looks a billion times better, so much better.
Speaker 5: I had a real hard time taking him serious in
Speaker 5: those shorts, and he looked great in proper gear.
Speaker 6: It was.
Speaker 1: It was actually astounding. He went from looking like a
Speaker 1: guy that came off the indies, which he was, to
Speaker 1: like a legit superstar. And he had a great match
Speaker 1: with Javon, which Javon won with a top roperkin Ron
Speaker 1: and og Cutter for that, and I'm not talking like
Speaker 1: the guy sitting on the top rope. I'm talking Grayson
Speaker 1: Waller is standing on the type. It was a super
Speaker 1: Frankensteiner and then the og Cutter for the pin and
Speaker 1: this was a very good match. They announced Rodman going
Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame and then Paul came down
Speaker 1: to the ring for the stupidest WWE segment and I
Speaker 1: don't even know how long. Paul comes out and says,
Speaker 1: I got nobody here. Bron Bronson, they're gone, Logan and Theory,
Speaker 1: you're half conscious. I'm all by myself. Seth wants to
Speaker 1: kill me as a stalker, and I'm gonna do this
Speaker 1: like a man, just come out and get it over with.
Speaker 1: So Seth comes out and he stands on the announced
Speaker 1: desk and suddenly four cops show up, at which point
Speaker 1: Paul explains, I filed a restraining order. You are within
Speaker 1: fifty feet of me. You're going to jail and perhaps prison.
Speaker 1: Seth has no idea what's going on.
Speaker 5: You have to let someone know the story is.
Speaker 1: Seth didn't know. He was never served. It was like,
Speaker 1: it was so stupid. And then Paul starts do to promo,
Speaker 1: going Yep, you're gonna be going to prison. You're gonna
Speaker 1: be locked up in prison so long that your wife
Speaker 1: will divorce you and I will become the father of
Speaker 1: your daughter.
Speaker 5: It's like, what, I don't think that's how it works.
Speaker 1: And then Seth goes after him and clabbors him and
Speaker 1: they carry him away. I mean, this was so dumb,
Speaker 1: and it was astounding becase because Paul Hayman was involved,
Speaker 1: and like, I can't think of one thing that he's
Speaker 1: ever done in his entire career as stupid is this.
Speaker 1: This didn't make any sense whatsoever. Zilch Zero, I don't
Speaker 1: even know why they had this segment on the show.
Speaker 5: Why is Seth still wearing the masks in the hoodie?
Speaker 1: I don't know, dude, this is dying of death. Then
Speaker 1: Bailey and Lyra beat the Kabooki Warriors, which seemed fine,
Speaker 1: but the crowd was dead. And then Bailey and Lyra
Speaker 1: challenged Night and Lash for next week, and then foolishly
Speaker 1: puts over Madison Square Garden in Boston, gets boot out
Speaker 1: of the building and then she just goes like, hold
Speaker 1: on everybody, Bailey and Lyra are gonna beat Nie and
Speaker 1: Lash about half the people. Kind of she goes, all right,
Speaker 1: We're done. That's good. She was out of there, and
Speaker 1: then we had another funny story. So I show Speed
Speaker 1: shows up. Now before the show, somebody there had told
Speaker 1: me gigantic star backstage at Raw didn't tell me who
Speaker 1: it was, and so you know, I I tweeted out
Speaker 1: to my ex followers, apparently there's a gigantic star backstage
Speaker 1: at Raw, and like as soon as I tweeted it out,
Speaker 1: like minutes later, WW announces I show Speed is there.
Speaker 3: And.
Speaker 1: Oh I did. But then I went back to the
Speaker 1: other person. I was like, I show Speed is the
Speaker 1: Gigantic Superstar, and boy did they lambast me for being old.
Speaker 1: They were like, bro, you don't even get it. Like,
Speaker 1: if you're sitting here, think of the same thing I did,
Speaker 1: which is that's the giant star. Apparently you're old because
Speaker 1: like I guess this guy like as far as like followers,
Speaker 1: you know, he's got more than like WWE and something
Speaker 1: else put together like he is. If you're a young kid,
Speaker 1: he is enormous. But for us old people, it's like,
Speaker 1: that's the guy you were talking about. Yep, that was
Speaker 1: the guy and he was there.
Speaker 5: I also don't think it's as big of a deal
Speaker 5: when he's been there before.
Speaker 1: Yes, I hey, listen, I'm on your side, but I'm
Speaker 1: also old.
Speaker 5: I'm older than you.
Speaker 1: So we had penta beating dom after interference from Finn,
Speaker 1: and then Finn beat him up and laid him out,
Speaker 1: and I thought Finn was great here. And then the
Speaker 1: main event segment was Cmpunk, Roman Reigns and the USOS
Speaker 1: and we'll talk a little bit about that after the
Speaker 1: break Observer Live.
Speaker 2: You were listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Albarez
Speaker 2: and Mike Simperviv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.
Speaker 1: So apparently we add up all of speed social media.
Speaker 1: He has more than W and AW combined as the
Speaker 1: stead I was given, but I'm too old to follow
Speaker 1: it all. So anyway, the main event segment was see
Speaker 1: him Punk coming out, and I thought this segment was
Speaker 1: actually very good because he did this long promo about
Speaker 1: how Roman called him old, but he was old and
Speaker 1: not embarrassed about it. And he starts doing this big
Speaker 1: promo about how he feels great and out comes Jimmy
Speaker 1: and Jay and they're angry at him, and Jay wants
Speaker 1: to beat this guy up, but Jimmy tries hold him back,
Speaker 1: and Jay goes Roman's not even here, so of course
Speaker 1: Roman comes out and they're doing this promo and Roman's
Speaker 1: trying to get the Usos out of the ring, and
Speaker 1: then Punk just basically says, well, you might want to
Speaker 1: leave him here because you're gonna need their help. So
Speaker 1: of course Jay gets angry and he attacks Punk, and
Speaker 1: then Roman's trying to pull everybody out of the ring,
Speaker 1: and then Jay Uso is the one that says, Joe,
Speaker 1: you know what you gotta do, get in there and
Speaker 1: do it, and Roman gets all fired up and he
Speaker 1: goes in there and he kills see him Punk and
Speaker 1: gives him the power bomb through the table and Jay's
Speaker 1: egging him on, you know, get that guy, and so
Speaker 1: they leave him for dead as the fans chant one
Speaker 1: more time, and then it ends with Punk laughing and saying,
Speaker 1: I'm not the one that needs help. That's the guy
Speaker 1: that needs help. So I thought it was a very
Speaker 1: good segment, one of the better ones they've done, and
Speaker 1: still building up that match Roman Reigns and c Himpunk
Speaker 1: main event of Night two for WrestleMania.
Speaker 5: Any thoughts unless they changed their minds. No, I thought
Speaker 5: it was a really good segment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I thought it was a pretty good show overall.
Speaker 1: It's just even the commercial issues aside. Even if it
Speaker 1: did just skip the commercials, fine, it's like these commercials
Speaker 1: are right in the middle of all these matches and
Speaker 1: it's so hard to get into the action because it's
Speaker 1: just like it's been like this forever. But really hit
Speaker 1: me last night for the added frustration of having to
Speaker 1: figure out how to skip them, and then when you
Speaker 1: come back, it's like, I miss most of the match. Anyway,
Speaker 1: what can you do? We're out of here, guys. Tonight.
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