1 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: Well, hello everyone, how are you doing? I don't know 2 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: what day it is, so I'm just going to say hi. 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: My name is Luke Thomas. I am one half of 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: your hosting duo on this lovely podcast. We call ourselves 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: Morning Combat, our gig here as we routinely accuse other 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: shows of gimmick infringement for no good reason. 7 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: Thomas turns out we might have been wrong, Luke, we 8 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 2: may have been the infringers. I don't know. 9 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: Yes, I don't know. I don't know. But that's a 10 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: different discussion for a different time. Here's what I do know. 11 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 1: It's time for a mailbag episode. Hi, I'm Luke Thomas. 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: That's Brian Campbell to can't Connecticut. But what's up BC? 13 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: How are you doing? 14 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? So here's the deal. This is a normal slot 15 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 2: Monday Wednesday Friday, eleven a m. Eastern on the YouTube's 16 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: for this great show, Morning Combat. But look at our 17 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 2: on vacation. It's August and but yet you know, our 18 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: producer Mikey Morms is like, na, Bra, you gotta still 19 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 2: fill this hole. Okay. So uh so you know if 20 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: you're you're gonna come on, bro, So you know we're 21 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: coming there. We're here. 22 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: We're all right, So here we are. This is uh, 23 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: we'll have a couple of these. This is about sports 24 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: today stuff different stuff in MMA. But we're not going 25 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: to do like crazy you know, would you do a 26 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: bong out of a dead body type questions. We're going 27 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: to keep it mostly related to MMA and things like that. 28 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 2: Of course, scamming the system to get these questions to us. 29 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: We have we to get these questions. We asked you 30 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: to scam the system by leaving a review on Apple Podcasts, 31 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: and then we go from there. As always, like the channel, 32 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: subscribe like the video, I should say, anyway, subscribe to 33 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: the channel. And yes, tons of great content as I 34 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: have to watch BC's stupid stupid face. Yeah, Mutch, you 35 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: dye your hair jet black? Again? There? Wayne Newton? Yeah, 36 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: all right, you want to get this started, b Sizzle. 37 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, watch all of our stuff. All right? Maybe you know, 38 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't care what. 39 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: Yes, get showtime, go to Morning Combat Dot store, you know. 40 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: Get showtime and get ben Yeah there. 41 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: You go, there you go. All right, BC, let's kick 42 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: this off. We've got some questions from people who helped 43 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: us scam the rating system. There We'll go to number one. 44 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: This person has no name there there, They're just a drifter. 45 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: They come into town, they bang all the girls, and 46 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:16,679 Speaker 1: then they leave, you know, like all eighties heroes. Who 47 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: are your top five non UFC champions? 48 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: Is this a favorite? Who we think they were the best? 49 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 2: What's the deal here? 50 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: What's this? What I mean? 51 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: You got to simplify here, so. 52 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: I'll say, like, when I think about who my top five, 53 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: I mean, if they're asking currently, it's harder to say. 54 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: If they're asking like historically you have to go Pride 55 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: with fad Or as heavyweight champions by there's probably a 56 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: few Pride titles. 57 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 2: Who are the five best fighters in MMA history who 58 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 2: have never been a UFC champ? Is that really what 59 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 2: this is saying? 60 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: No, no, no, who it could be? Well, here's what I 61 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: was gonna say. So fade Or would have your heavyweight 62 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: title right from Pride. I think you could even do 63 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: Aldo w e C for theweight champion that was not 64 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: on UFC at that time. He was that you could 65 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: probably if you wanted to. You could add Dan Henderson 66 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 1: if you wanted as like either you know, a double 67 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: champ in Pride, the first real kind of double. 68 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: Champ, Michelle Female anim. 69 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: Is there, there's rumble on the rock belts, there's Icon 70 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: sport belts, there's rings. Who are some other ones? I've 71 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: given you two or three? 72 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 2: Here was it he Alva's bowdog champion? 73 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: Likely? 74 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 2: What are we doing here? Bro? What are we even 75 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 2: doing right now? 76 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: I would say, wouldn't you add? You could add who 77 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: was like the best Strikeforce champion? Jake Shields was champed 78 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: for a time. 79 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: Luke rock Hold was pretty as you know, I didn't 80 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: have a lot of defenses, but was a great fighter, 81 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 2: and was Strikeforce champion right, yes for a time, technical classic. 82 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: Yes, that's true. And been Dream champions there. Oh you 83 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: know what you could say? Al st Over him when 84 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: he was Dream and strike Force and K one champ simultaneously. Yeah, yeah, right, 85 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: it was awesome. You can sider anyone about it was 86 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: not a bad time to be a fan. That's probably God. 87 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: We didn't name any billet or champs. Jesus Joe, So 88 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: you know what I think you could add? You could 89 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: add pit Bull to the list, maybe to key give. 90 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: Me featherweight pill you wanted to do featherweight all though. 91 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, but you can do that too. Okay, but 92 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: there go. Those are some answers to your questions there, 93 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: all right, this is from danan or day Nan. Hi guys. 94 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: First off, you guys are my number one fave combat 95 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: sports podcast. Yeah goddamn right, And he goes and I 96 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: listened to them all. Well you shouldn't do that. 97 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 2: Just your audio whore. 98 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah right, you absolute slut of audio. You guys 99 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: are blah blah blah blah blah, a bunch of nice 100 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 1: things and whatever. I'm not going to read it, Okay. 101 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 1: Given the flash evolution of the quality of athletes that 102 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: are now entering MMA, the speed in which new techniques 103 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: are being developed and perfected along with improvements in training, 104 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: skill tech, blah blah blah, how will EMMA adapt? Do 105 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: you imagine time when more moves are outlawed, where DNA 106 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: tests become standard like peds? Will rules need to change 107 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: to protect fighters? I'm not really sure exactly what he's asking. 108 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: I mean, if the question was simply based on fighting 109 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: style and strategy, I've been waiting, Luke for the evolution 110 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 2: of some type of new not a new base, but 111 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 2: a new way. I mean, I'm not talking about just cafkicks. 112 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 2: How that may have altered the game in recent years. 113 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 2: I mean, like, is there going to be a discipline? 114 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 2: I mean it was rare to see a karate star 115 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: like Macheta or Thompson. It was rare to see a 116 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 2: top level judoka like a like a Ronda or whatever, 117 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: or my guy Carro Parisian. But I'm talking about, Luke, 118 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 2: is there a fighter discipline that hasn't made its mark 119 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: within the cage that will or some sort of variation 120 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: of one that could become a trend where people are like, 121 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 2: holy crap, I got to start doing that, Luke, Like 122 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 2: jiu jitsu in the nineties, American wrestling in the early aughts, 123 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: and what have you? Am I speaking out of my a. 124 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: Hole, Luke, don't. I don't think so. I think that's 125 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: probably right. But he's talking about a bunch of different stuff. 126 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: Here's the question you got to ask yourself, BC. I'm 127 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 1: not sure what the DNA tests have to do with everything. 128 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: Like there's one thing to be like, Oh, it's the NFL, 129 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: where you know they'll run a series of offensive schemes 130 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: and by the end of that season, or at least 131 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: the beginning of the next, a lot of shit doesn't work. 132 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: It's like how RG three, you know, partly have injury issues, 133 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: but like part of it was also just schemes that 134 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: the NFL just kind of adapted to. That's different than 135 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: what's happened with the NBA, where the game is just 136 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: is very much different than the game we grew up with. 137 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: It's much more spaced out. Obviously, look at the scores, 138 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: defenses just not Not only is it not what it 139 00:06:59,160 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: used to be, it can't. 140 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 2: Rule changes facilitated the NBA's change because scoring was down 141 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 2: in the late nineties and very early two thousands when 142 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 2: the lockdown defense really took over. 143 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: Right. 144 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: That started in a lot of ways well with the 145 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 2: Bad Boys, but really became to prominence with the mid nineties. 146 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 2: Pat Riley Nicks and eventually Luke. David Stern didn't like 147 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 2: the way this game was being presented it with thugish 148 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 2: it was defensive heavy, so he opened the lane and 149 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 2: he really created an avenue for guys, first Steve Nash, 150 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 2: then all the way through Steph Curry to be smaller 151 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: but can take over a game. Will there be a 152 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: rule change akin to that inn mma or rule changes 153 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 2: which would open the door for a fighter who in 154 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 2: the past would have been considered marginal or average, but 155 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 2: because of this rule change or adaption. Think Steve Nash's 156 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 2: MVP years Luke. Before that, Steve Nash was an adequate, good, 157 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 2: above average, but not all stars starting point guard. Right 158 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 2: then he became a back to back MVP because of 159 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 2: the rule changes. Although let's also give credit to Mike 160 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: D'Antoni in the seven seconds or less offense that system 161 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 2: that they ran. Will you see an equivalent like that 162 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 2: to Emma at all? 163 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: Well, I think you kind of already are a little bit. 164 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: To me, it's not a coincidence that you have fighters 165 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: like Leon Edwards and Serial Gone existing at the same time, right, 166 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: and again they do. They have their own ways of fighting, 167 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: they have their own ways of managing risk and rounds 168 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: and positions, and they go to things in their own 169 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: proclivities in their own ways. But what underlies them both 170 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: is they fight at distance, they don't take a lot 171 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: of damage, they're good at neutralizing their opponents, and there's 172 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: not necessarily a little bit This is different for Cerial Gone, 173 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: but there's not necessarily a ton of you know, action 174 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: heavy fun associated with their game. That there's a reason 175 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 1: for that is because while it's difficult to pull off 176 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: what they can do, and to an extent, I would 177 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 1: put Volkanovsky in that group as well a little bit, 178 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: a little bit, it's a once you can master that, 179 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 1: it's a very difficult person to beat, very very difficult. 180 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 1: Or you know, you take something really special, some kind 181 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: of major specialization, and obviously a lot of people might 182 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: have those, but they've moved away from hardcore habib like specialization. 183 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: So I tend to wonder about that. I also tend 184 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: to wonder two things. I would say, to what extent 185 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: does knees to the head of a grounded opponent as 186 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: or it strikes to the head of a grounded opponent? 187 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: To what extent does that change? If that begins to 188 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: open up. We just saw I think it was in Colorado, 189 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: they're going to allow different rule sets pride and one 190 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: style rules with the fights being judged and whatnot. That's 191 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: to me an interesting development. And I think the other 192 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: one I would say is beyond just like knees and whatnot, 193 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: what if judging changes. What if we went I mean, 194 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: if this seems to me highly unlikely BC, but what 195 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: if we went to like a pride like system judging 196 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: a fight as a whole versus nine what what does 197 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 1: what does that mean? Yeah? 198 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 2: That means you're not fighting for rounds, You're fighting exclusively 199 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 2: for damage in big moments. And you could say, well, 200 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 2: you're always fighting for damn Well no there are, there 201 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 2: are round and point fighters. People are looking to control 202 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 2: the terms of a fight to win it. That way, 203 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 2: if you are exclusively and only scoring one score for 204 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 2: the whole fight, you're gonna score the guy who had 205 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 2: the bigger moments, even if it came in pockets. So 206 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 2: I wonder that could alter or change at all. But 207 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 2: your point about what if ten the trends changed and 208 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 2: suddenly you could kick a down athlete or strike the 209 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 2: head like you said with I mean that, I wonder. 210 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: If that you change? 211 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 2: Want what rule change? I mean like, look the NFL 212 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 2: they had to make rule changes to protect offensive players. Now, 213 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 2: part you can argue they did it to protect quarterbacks 214 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 2: from missing games because people come to see these quarterbacks, 215 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 2: but it's also because the CT and concussions and all that, 216 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 2: and what do they do, Luke could open up the 217 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 2: game the passing receiving records or you know, through the 218 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 2: roof comparative to when you and I were in high 219 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 2: school in college. So I'm wondering or waiting to see 220 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 2: what happens with that rule change. I'm gonna guess it's 221 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: gonna happen more, though not in something in which we're 222 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 2: opening up the rules, like are like what you just 223 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 2: said about, you know, making strikes to a downfighter. Maybe 224 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 2: maybe people will say, well, that's archaic, let's open that up. 225 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 2: I think it may be the opposite. I think something 226 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 2: may happen for us to constrict the rules more Luke, 227 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 2: and maybe that would have an effect on things changing. 228 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 1: Maybe. I think any kind of alteration is going to 229 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: have some kind of an impact, some negligible, some significance, 230 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: some good, some bad. I wouldn't deny that. But the 231 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: only thing that's kind of interesting is I can't prove this. 232 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: I don't know this to be true, but I have 233 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: a hunch that a fighter not that that type of 234 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: fighter you get. I mean, Volkanovski is very very good, 235 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: Leonan Edwards is very very good, and obviously Zero Gone 236 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 1: is very very good. But there are going to be 237 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: other people who kind of try to do that. I 238 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: don't think I'll say this. I don't think a lesser 239 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: version of that style works as well under a Pride 240 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: style of judging. I think it works a lot better 241 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 1: under a ten point must system. Can't prove that it's 242 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: just a hunch, but that'd be something I'd be paying 243 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: attention to what extent rule sets create incentives for fight styles, 244 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: and I don't know that there's incentives. 245 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, rule sets have changed the damn NBA. It's one 246 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 2: thousand percent rural. It's still a great product. But you know, 247 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 2: if you're a center that doesn't shoot threes and you're 248 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 2: not wiry and and have a high vertical, there's no 249 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: there's no home for you. There's no room, Luke. So 250 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 2: you know, I always say this as a joke, and 251 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 2: it's not true because Seth Curry, Steph Curry, I'm sorry, 252 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 2: not Seth, not the bootleg brother, Steph Curry. Luke. He 253 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 2: has range, that is it changed the game, right, his 254 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 2: ability to hit from like thirty feet consistently, It certainly 255 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 2: changed the game. But if you told me a six 256 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 2: to one guard in the success he had with multiple 257 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 2: MVPs was parachuted back into nineteen ninety four, when Seth's 258 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 2: data was playing as a six man for the Hornets. Dude, 259 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 2: he's Dana Barrows. I'm sorry. Okay, maybe he's better because 260 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 2: Steph can really shoot it. But you'd be a specialized 261 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 2: oddity like a Dana Barrows, a short, quick guy who 262 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 2: you know who can do certain things, but he could 263 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 2: drive thee because those big guys will send them to 264 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 2: the first row of the bleachers, Luke, back when you 265 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 2: used to be able to follow people, all right. I 266 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 2: don't know if they'll see something that dramatic in MMA 267 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 2: where guys that we know now as point fighters or 268 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 2: IQ guys who don't rely on power, Will that be 269 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 2: taken out of the game because some of some kind 270 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 2: of rule change, maybe scoring, As we said, it's interesting 271 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 2: to think about, Luke. But again, I think it's more 272 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 2: likely to come as a result of some catastrophic injury 273 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 2: or something bad that happens on national television where we're like, 274 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: we got to change these rules just a bit, and 275 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 2: then you'll see from that can more people thrive who 276 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 2: wouldn't have had an effect in a former game. I 277 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 2: don't think they're ever going to open shit up, Luke. 278 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think it's gonna if anything 279 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 2: you want to put some lipstick on this sport more? 280 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: Right? 281 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 2: You want more? You want to widen the audience. 282 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: I mean no, I tend to think that the public 283 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 1: has gotten a lot more used to it than we realize. 284 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: I remember when basic mma KOs would would make people 285 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: real and horror, and now it makes them stand and lee. 286 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: There's been a dramatic shift on the power the building. Now. 287 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: To your point, I do think there are going to 288 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: be some pretty clear limits. And those limits, while maybe 289 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: seemingly arbitrary and not consistent, they just exist for whatever reason. 290 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: I take that seriously, no doubt about it. You're right, 291 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: there's a point where you just you can go up 292 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: to it and then once you cross it, even just 293 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: a little bit, you've gone too far. But that overton windows, 294 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: so to speak, has grown dramatically. Are you looking for 295 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: the fountain of youth underneath your chair? Oh? 296 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 2: No, the the arm rest on my chair came off. 297 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 2: The screw came loose. I got a few screws loose 298 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 2: over here. Loops, so I'm trying to tighten it with 299 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 2: a pen cap put it back together. 300 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: To the next question, it's from It's from Jose. Jose says, Hello, 301 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: Brian and Luke. Do you think the UFC would agree 302 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: for the following talent trade? I don't know where. Okay, 303 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: I'll answer it. 304 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 2: No, No, go further, Luke, I love these type of 305 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 2: quiet Why wouldn't you entertain this? Why wouldn't you love 306 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 2: it if promoters could actually trade like the Dmitris Johnson thing? 307 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: Because if you really want to tell you what the 308 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: terms are of the trades, you're going to realize the 309 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: question isn't really about that, but rather this person misjudges 310 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: what's going on. Okay, all right, John Jones for AJ 311 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: McKee is the first part of the question. I mean 312 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: absolutely not. They would never do that. And then, secondly, 313 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: do you think Jones would like that? Which is sort 314 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: of a separate question. Imagine Bellator and UFC were interested. 315 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: Would Jones like it? Now that's a little bit different 316 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: to me. But first let's answer this, John Jones for 317 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: AJ McKee not a million years would they make that trade? 318 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: Not millions? 319 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 2: Right now, the villains still till ye proven. 320 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: Pay per view draw against McKee, who obviously has a 321 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: very bright future but is still somewhat uncertain. Do I 322 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: think Jones would like it? I don't think Jones would 323 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: mind leaving UFC, but only if Belator could pay him 324 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: shit tons of money, which I don't think that they 325 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: can necessarily. 326 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 2: I mean, Jones is the greatest fighter of all time 327 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 2: and he's still under thirty five, so uh yeah, he's 328 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 2: you know that, that's still and he could still be 329 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: your heavyweight champion within the next six eight months a 330 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 2: year for all we know, right, I mean, I don't 331 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 2: know if i'd favor him any more against Anghanu, but yeah, 332 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 2: he's still too close to there. You'd have to that 333 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 2: trade he was washed, Luke. If he was washed and 334 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 2: it was only about Belator getting a musty attraction, then 335 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 2: you could argue, are you mortgaging the future of giving 336 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 2: away McKee thinking you may not be able to keep 337 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 2: him anyway to try to get someone proven right now? 338 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 2: That's the spirit of that trade. Right now, we ain't there. 339 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: Let me ask a question, could you do John Jones 340 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: versus Rumble on pay per view pre Limbs on Big CBS. Okay, 341 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: so you're gonna put the Peelriums on Big CBS. Let's say, Well, 342 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: Bellatore's gonna do it up like they did for the 343 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: McKee and Pitbull card where you know they're putting on 344 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: their their best, their Sunday best. Right you could do that? 345 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: How much would it sell? So we're talking about that 346 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: headlining and we'll say promoted correctly with the available channels. 347 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 2: John Jones on a Bellator pay per view, you're saying, yep, pre. 348 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: Lims on big set, on big CBS, you know, media tour, 349 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: the whole nine yards. 350 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 2: Who's he fighting though, fade Ar? Oh shit, dude, that's 351 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 2: a million buy papers. Well, million is a lot these days. 352 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: I don't think it does a million, but I bet 353 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 1: it does well. And so for that reason, Ajmicky can't 354 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: do that. A J mck's got the brightest future I've 355 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: seen in the longest of times, but he's not there 356 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: right now. 357 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 2: I mean, it's hard to really know, Like, is aj 358 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: mcke if you put him in UFC tomorrow, what do 359 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 2: he go? You know, five wins and three losses against 360 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 2: the eight best lightweights out there. I don't know, right 361 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 2: or is he Is it possible that he really is 362 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 2: that sort of special generational guy who will have a 363 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 2: Mayweather type effect on a certain division where it's just 364 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 2: like nobody can touch him and he can do crazy things. 365 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 2: I don't know, Luke, I tend. 366 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: To I don't know if I don't know, if MMA 367 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: allows for a Mayweather even you have someone like Habib 368 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: who was undefeated. First of all, Mayweather had fifty fights, 369 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: and now some of those, you know, at the end, 370 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: we're not the best of his career, but still he 371 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: got to fifty of them. Let's just put that out there. 372 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: And second of all, like he would take breaks and 373 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: you know it wasn't as hard on his body and 374 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: blah blah blah, Like Habib almost quit the sport a 375 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: couple times over terrible injuries. Like you know, John's about 376 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: as close as you're gonna get to that kind of 377 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 1: transformational figure. And even he had thirty four, it is 378 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 1: just like it's kind of had enough, you know. Yeah, yeah, anyway, 379 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: do I think Jones would like it? I think if 380 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: you could line up like I mean, other boys, but 381 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: if you could line up Romero, Rumble, maybe who's their 382 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: champ over there, the Russian kid, not Moldowski cough cough. 383 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 2: Imagine a bait or rematch for the heavyweight title. I'm 384 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 2: into that, Luke. 385 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: That's interesting. Yep, that's interesting too, Like there are some 386 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: ways for him to make things work. But John Tim Johnson, right, 387 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: you know that's big. That's big. That's big. It plus 388 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: it'd be like brand new free John Jones able to 389 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: get sponsors and blah blah blah, like it'd be big 390 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: all right. This is from uh Jesse from Australia. After 391 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: watching the last Bellator card Pitbull versus Mickey, I have 392 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: a serious question. Are the best other way it's in 393 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 1: the world at UFC or Bellator. I'm Australian, so obviously 394 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: I have a biased view of Volkanovski. But if I 395 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: really sit back and think about it, is aj McKee 396 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: a better all around fighter than Max and Bulk or 397 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: with these elite UFC feather way it's find a way 398 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 1: to derail him. One thing I want to say before 399 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: I pitched this question to you BC is this is 400 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: how you know aj McKee made a big splash When 401 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: when fans start asking us, hey, could X from Bellator 402 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: beat Y and Z from UFC? That's when you know 403 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,479 Speaker 1: X is on people's radar in a way that they 404 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: were not before. They're beginning to take him seriously. Yeah, 405 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: so what do you think Couldy? What geez are you 406 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: pulling at Luke Thomas and listening to not a fucking word. 407 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,719 Speaker 1: I am telling you. 408 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 2: Now, I couldn't find this. I had some old gum 409 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 2: and I don't know where I didn't know where I 410 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 2: put I founded though I found it. 411 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: You just put gum out of your mouth and then 412 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: put it back. 413 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. Usually before before I do HQ or an interview, 414 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 2: I usually have gum and sometimes I have to I 415 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 2: put it down. I forget to put it back in, 416 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 2: and I just have used gum sitting around. It's gross off. 417 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: You truly are a disgusting man. I'm just going to 418 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: give the same answer I always give to this question, 419 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: which is, yeah, he's probably somewhere in that top five. 420 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: I'll say this PC. I'd have to look at their ages. 421 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: Let's pull up the rankings here right now. So aj 422 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: McKee is twenty six correct. 423 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 2: We can't look. We cannot answer this because we haven't 424 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 2: seen it. 425 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: Follow me here, following me here. How old is Brian 426 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 1: or Tega? 427 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 2: Right? 428 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: I think yeah, right around right, because he took a 429 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: bunch of time off, so he's thirty years old. So 430 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: let's do this. I'm going to go through the top 431 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: ten of the UFC's featherweight division. So Volkanowski passed twenty six. 432 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, but before we even do that, I'm telling you 433 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 2: that we can't do this because we haven't seen him 434 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 2: face any kind of adversity. Some of that is due 435 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 2: to his dynamic. 436 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: I want to make a point. I just want to 437 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: make a point. I just want to follow me here, 438 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: follow me here. Volkanowski older than twenty six, Holloway older 439 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: than twenty six, or Tega older Rodriguez. How old is 440 00:20:55,160 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: Yaya Rodriguez. He's pretty young. I think twenty seven, okay, 441 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: So he's sitting at twenty eight, twenty eight, and he'll 442 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: be twenty nine in October. So that's him. So then 443 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: you've got Calvin Cater, who I know is older. Arnold 444 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: Allen is young. Let's see how old he is. Arnold 445 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: Alan he is twenty seven and just turn twenty seven 446 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: well January, so not just but okay, so he's still older. 447 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: Then you go to Josh Emmett older. Dan Egay I 448 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: think is like twenty nine. Dan Egay is thirty, okay, 449 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: Edson Barboza older, Giga Chikazi. I don't know how old 450 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: Giga is. Giga Chikazi, do you get Chakadze point, I'm 451 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: going to get to it. Thirty two, Okay, so that's 452 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: your top ten. That means AJ McKee. I don't know 453 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 1: if he can beat those names, probably some, maybe not all, 454 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: but he's younger than all of them. He's younger than 455 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: everyone inside the UFC's top ten, meaning even if he 456 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: couldn't beat them now, he's got a lot of time 457 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 1: to catch up. Some of these guys are thirty two. 458 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: I mean, how good is aj McKee if he stays 459 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: on the straight and narrow going to be in six years, 460 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: we see he's gonna be fucking good. 461 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 2: So that's out. I can't figure out again if the 462 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 2: pitbull win is just the byproduct of that. He's a 463 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 2: super exciting like MVP Luke. MVP could could be anyone 464 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 2: on any given night because he does super ridiculous human 465 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 2: video game things right. But he also on any given night, 466 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 2: can be absolutely solved no you could say about anybody. 467 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 2: I get that, but I can't figure out if what 468 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 2: we've seen so far from AJ in his most toughest 469 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 2: in his toughest fights on paper has been MVP like Flash, 470 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 2: and he just hasn't run into like Fernando Gonzalez yet 471 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 2: to kind of go oh whoa. Okay, this guy is 472 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 2: no superhero, right or if he's freaking tiger Woods of Mma. Luke, 473 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 2: I don't know, yeah, you. 474 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: I don't know you either. I don't I don't know yet. 475 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: All right, let's go here. ABC one two, Three Dragons 476 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: love Tacos. Okay, name three MMA fighters and they put 477 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: in parentheses. No boxers, BC. Name three MMA fighters that 478 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: you would most like to see a documentary about their lives. 479 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: I gotta said, you guys find them much more interesting 480 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: than I for this kind of a thing. All right, 481 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: this person says, here are my suggestions. Rose is one 482 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 1: matt Linlan because you have the Olympics and the fall 483 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: up Team quest Techanri Gomi, the Pride and alleged Yakuza 484 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: influence Alexander Ramenko Emilianenko. Of course, he went to prison 485 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: and has hepatitis. He's also a fad or his brother 486 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: Shinya Alki. What do you say? ABC? 487 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 2: Sexyama inspire choice if I shaw what his personal life 488 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 2: is like, Luke, He's really who I aspire to be 489 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 2: in life. People think I hate riz In in japanis 490 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 2: of nah Na Bra Na Bra Okay, Rose would be interesting. 491 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 2: You know. Uh, Yohanna apparently did one for HBO Poland 492 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 2: I'd like to check that out. 493 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 1: I'll say this, I don't want to see any documentary 494 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: if it's made by the athletes, like with like their 495 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: production company, like you like they hired them to do. 496 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: I don't give a I don't need your RG three 497 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,719 Speaker 1: self worship. I don't need to see it at all. 498 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: Like my wife still told me, like, oh, we got 499 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: to check out this documentary on Amazon. It's about Jay Balvin. 500 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: J Balvin is this like sort of famous music producer 501 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,719 Speaker 1: slash rickitts Naro and uh and it was about all 502 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: the stuff that was supposed to be like you know, 503 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: all Columbias were like raving about it. Dude, I watched it. 504 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: It was his film. He made it, and he made 505 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: himself look like the greatest most you know, pensive and 506 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: deliberate human I've ever seen. I was like, man, and 507 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: then you need somebody. 508 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 2: With highs and lows, then, Luke, you need it non 509 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 2: self made, and you need someone who had highs and 510 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 2: lows both in and out of the cage right to 511 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 2: really tell an inside story and tell it accurately about 512 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 2: their strengths and weaknesses of character and all that, Luke, 513 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 2: So you keep that in mind, right. 514 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: So it's also so this is what I mean. If 515 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: someone was able to get his participation but he couldn't 516 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: control it, how do you not pick John Jones? 517 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 2: How do you not Jones to be massive? Chill Sonen 518 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 2: would be great. I'd like to well, you know why 519 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 2: he's wired that way in certain certain brock, you know, 520 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 2: you know, because of the language difference. Josie Aldo would 521 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 2: interest me a lot. 522 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's again, there's hay geography stuff made about him. 523 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 1: I'm not interested in that. People are like, oh, did 524 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: you see the Connor documentary. I'm not. I'm not interested 525 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: in that. I'm not. It doesn't do anything for me. 526 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: I want to see somebody independent and tell the story. 527 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 1: But Don Fry would kind of be one that would 528 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: be a little bit interesting as well. The whole era 529 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: of like hard nosed wrestlers turned fighters are on that 530 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 1: Mark Coleman kind of you know, ninety eight two thousand era. 531 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: There's a lot of cool shit from there. Obviously, Smashing 532 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: With was kind of the first of those. 533 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 2: Good that's good, that's a good flick. 534 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, boz Rutin hasn't had an interesting life. I feel like, 535 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I'm going a little old school. 536 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: I don't this is due when when the fights are over, 537 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: I tune this shit out. I'm not I'm not I'm 538 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: not that. I'm not that guy. But you have to 539 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: go to school. 540 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 2: Because UFC does such a good job today with embedded 541 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 2: and countdown, you kind of feel like you know a 542 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 2: lot about the active fighters, correct. 543 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: I I know what you mean, Like there's a ton 544 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 1: of information. I don't take the public view of things 545 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 1: as all that accurate though, Like it's a lot of 546 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: just you know, here's the version of the truth we 547 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: can tell, not the actual full version. 548 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 2: Show me the facts. Show me six fighters up, six 549 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 2: fighters down on resume review, show me the facts. 550 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: Right? And Son in a Way is another one. Bj 551 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: Penn Bjpenneah. Yeah, all right. This is from the Dragons Rage. 552 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: Dragons love Tacos BC. They also love age apparently. All right, 553 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 1: here we go. H question for Luke, since you caught 554 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: the whole thing from Barry boxing about the rhythm step, 555 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: I'll explain this in just a second. B See how 556 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: often do you notice it when you're observing a fighter, 557 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: so on the padwork or even during a fight. I 558 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: saw it and now I can't unsee it. Do you 559 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 1: know who this is? Barry forget his last name. I 560 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: also get his name wrong. It's get good at boxing 561 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: or get great at boxing. As his Instagram account, he 562 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: has trained a lot of boxers. He's trained some MMA 563 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: fighters like Dan Hooker and some other ones. But he 564 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: has this idea called the rhythm step. And if you watch, 565 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 1: what happens is two guys are facing off, two girls whatever, 566 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 1: and they'll interact, they'll fight, they'll you know, they'll faint 567 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: or whatever, and then you'll notice that one of them 568 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: as they change angles or as a reset moment, typically 569 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: it's almost always a reset, they'll bring their feet together 570 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: and then they go back to the exchange or whatever. 571 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: And he sort of noticed that, like, this doesn't just 572 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: happen at lower intermediate levels. This happens at the very 573 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,959 Speaker 1: highest level, that there's a lot of people who are 574 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: Basically the argument would be he calls the rhythm step, 575 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: but the idea would be they're resetting in the middle 576 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: of these fights, and if you time their reset and 577 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: you pick couple on their reset you can attack the reset, 578 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: and I have to say it's been a very influential 579 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: on my thinking about certain fights. Have you known stuff 580 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: like that? 581 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 2: So is it the equivalent of Teddy KJB with the 582 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 2: Oreo twist on rounders? 583 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 1: Luke, it's a tel, it's a tel, it's a tell, 584 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: but it's a particular one that a lot of people do. 585 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: You'll see they'll step out and then step back, bring 586 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: their feet together, and then they'll reset. But when they 587 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: do they let their their hands don't necessarily drop, but 588 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: their mind is when you have to. When your mind 589 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: is resetting, your defense is not cued as acutely as 590 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: it's supposed to be, and you can you can land 591 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: on these fools when they do that. 592 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 2: So that's similar to the angle DC found in the 593 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 2: first stepa fight that Stepe exits with his hands down 594 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,959 Speaker 2: just a bit and he filled that whole Luke. Right, 595 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 2: Let's hope the rhythm style is a lot more effective 596 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 2: than the rhythm method, Luke, which helped produce you into 597 00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 2: this world. 598 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, this is okay for folks who don't speak 599 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: Brian Campbell, let me translate. He's very moderately interested in 600 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: this topic, not really and he was looking for an 601 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: exit from it so we could move on, and making 602 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: a joke about my parents fucking is his way of 603 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: doing that. Let me just say one thing, do you 604 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: see it, and we'll move on to the next one, 605 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: which is Folks have asked me like, how are you 606 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: able to pick up on all this stuff in a fight? 607 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: And this is like, it's not really my secret, but 608 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: I'll just present it as such, which is, dude, here's 609 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: the big key to understanding fights. Yeah, sometimes they over 610 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: in thirteen seconds, sometimes at the end for reasons that 611 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: have nothing to do with how the fight itself was going. Right, 612 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: there's all mm is crazy. But what I've noticed most 613 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,239 Speaker 1: of the time with most fights, especially at the elite end, 614 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: is everything's a pattern, and once you decipher what the 615 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: patterns are on either side, you'll see it repeat itself 616 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: over and over and over. Not merely over fights them rounds, 617 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: I should say that fights themselves. So, yes, how they 618 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: got to those positions what they I mean, the very 619 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: fine details. Yeah, you need to be a really good 620 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: coach and a former fighter to have the full amount 621 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: of information. I make no claims otherwise, but if you 622 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: just understand, you're looking for patterns. A lot of this 623 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: stuff is a little bit easier to pick up on 624 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: the people imagine it is. 625 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 2: So you know what I thought turned into a good story. 626 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 2: Do you know that bloke in the UK named Lee 627 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 2: Wiley who used to for years on YouTube put out 628 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 2: those historic boxing breakdowns where you take like Sugar Ray 629 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 2: Robinson or Harry Greb or whatever and break down the 630 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 2: film like you're saying, picking up little patterns and showing 631 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 2: you the Luke Thomas like you know the equivalent and 632 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 2: Mma what you used to do with a very very 633 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 2: well uh you know visited uh what was it called? Dissected? 634 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 2: Very good segment. I hope we can see the return 635 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 2: of it. 636 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: Luke. 637 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 2: You may have heard of him because remember when Kenny 638 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 2: Fluorin had that plagarizing incident. Yes, that was Lee Wiley's videos, 639 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 2: and then he ended up having Lee on the podcast apologized. 640 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 2: I didn't realize. Good old Lee, who I followed for years, 641 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 2: got hired by MTK you know that management team that 642 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 2: manages Fury and Billy Joe Saunders in the UK, and 643 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 2: he was part of the team. What we didn't talk 644 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 2: about was on his own last week it didn't make 645 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 2: heavy see this ship. There was a title fight at featherweight. 646 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 2: There was that guy zoo Can. 647 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: Yeah saw that fight. I literally saw that fight. 648 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 2: He got upset by by a UK guy named Lee 649 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 2: Wood who knocked him out in the twelfth round, but 650 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 2: was on his way to winning that fight because they 651 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 2: had figured something out on the video and Lee Wiley 652 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 2: was the was the guy they used in camp to 653 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 2: to really figure that out, which is wild because Lee 654 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 2: Wiley was just some dude to work at a factory 655 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 2: in the UK that loved boxing would put out these 656 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 2: videos and he got all the way to that level. 657 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 2: Luke into to your horn. Not that you're just some 658 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 2: factory worker, although you do a show with a former one, 659 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 2: you also have had teams work reach out to you 660 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 2: and be like, you know, interest in doing the same thing. Correct, 661 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 2: I'm not they. 662 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: Didn't want they didn't want to pay me for it. 663 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: But yeah, I've had a few UFC fighters reach out 664 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: and ask for some help. 665 00:31:58,760 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 2: That's awesome. 666 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty great. It's pretty great. So I will 667 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: say this lastly, Sean McVay, who's the head coach of 668 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams, did you see he hired some 669 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: like guy who was like a reporter for NFL network 670 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,719 Speaker 1: for a long time guy and maybe he played football 671 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: in like high school or something, but was not in 672 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: any way would you consider an athlete. He got hired 673 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: to be like an like a coaching analyst for him. 674 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, picked him from me. I always find it 675 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: when they're like when the coach sees someone in media, 676 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: and it happens quite rarely, but when they see someone 677 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: in the media and then they pluck him out for 678 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: like a very specific but also highly important job and 679 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: they can kind of fill that niche in a pretty 680 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: those are always interesting to me when I see that. 681 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: It happens along like I've seen like people do with 682 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: like financials for teams or looking at tape or whatever. 683 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: It's always Darryl Moore. 684 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 2: What was that guy's name, Darryl Moury or Morley. They 685 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 2: call him Dirk Elvis. He was the Rockets GM and 686 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 2: he was like a stack cruncher of a guy, and 687 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 2: he figured out trends and it led him all the 688 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 2: way to the front office. 689 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: Luke tell you you'd be amazed. But you can pick 690 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: up on if you just watch a bunch of this shit. Okay, 691 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: this is from more Moy, I guess he's in Japan, Hi, 692 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: Luke ABC. In the Dillashaw Sandhagen fight, the commentators we're 693 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: talking about TJ's leg injury in the first round. Does 694 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: that news reach the other corner we see? 695 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 2: I guess it could during the fight if somebody watching 696 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 2: at home texts the cornermen of. 697 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: Corey. 698 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 2: I usually think that that kind of information makes it. 699 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 2: That's why we even saw in the Floyd and when 700 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 2: Floyd Mayweather ran up on Gervonte Davis and the fight 701 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 2: against Barrios on pay per view on Show tom and 702 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 2: was like, you know, the broadcast has you down, So yeah, 703 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 2: that stuff I think gets there. Luke, I don't think 704 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 2: it's like formally done, but I think it gets there. 705 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, the some I need to double check this. People 706 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: can dead wrong me. If it's wrong, I'm not committing 707 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: to it. I think there are some states where phone 708 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: use in the middle of the round or even during 709 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: the fight itself is prohibited. Where after the fight, take 710 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: all the pictures you want, before the fight, record everything 711 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: you want, but then once you get on that ring 712 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: or octagon, apron, you're not allowed to use it anymore. 713 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: I need to double check that, but like you know, 714 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: also like dude, they're not. I mean, you know, it 715 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: wasn't like a hidden injury or some shit. The guy 716 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: was favoring it pretty clearly. So sometimes I think that 717 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,240 Speaker 1: thing can reach, but it doesn't give you that much benefit. 718 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 1: You got, your guys still has to know how to fight, 719 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: all right. I've got a time for a couple more 720 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: here from QB kill Us seventy seven. Hey, guys, love 721 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: the show. Been listening to BC since the ITC days 722 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 1: in this corner. 723 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was a great podcast in CBS Sports 724 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 2: It then we got copyright suit A sued so it 725 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 2: became the State of Combat and now it's worn in combat. 726 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: Looks right and also have endured and grown like have 727 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: endured and grown to like LT great chemistry. I love 728 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: the way you're pulling each other. Blah bah blahlah blah 729 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. Okay, makes for awesome theater. Keep 730 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 1: it up. Question here we go, considering Pitbull's loss, continuing 731 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: to uphold the resume review curse. Can you guys do 732 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: a resume review for Chris Cyborg for her next Bellator 733 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,479 Speaker 1: fight to either prove or disprove the resume review curse 734 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: is real, we think b see. 735 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 2: No, we would never do one just for the sake 736 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 2: of trying to discuss with the curse. The curse Israel. 737 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 2: We do, as you had said, an almost defense of 738 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 2: the curse, like it's a lot of times you're doing 739 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 2: the fighter that is more has a deeper history than 740 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 2: the other fighter to make the to make great content, 741 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 2: to make the resume review make sense. You're not gonna 742 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 2: do it on a guy who's got you know, four 743 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 2: major fights, right, so that tends to lean towards doing 744 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 2: it on the older fighters. And I think over average, 745 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,280 Speaker 2: younger fighters in their prime are going to be older 746 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 2: fighters more often than not, so maybe that explains some 747 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 2: of the resume review curse. But I am interested to 748 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 2: see Luke the first time we do it on a 749 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 2: fight that really isn't fifty to fifty ish that what 750 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,240 Speaker 2: it really does, or who's the first fighter that beats 751 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 2: the resume review curse right, especially if they do it 752 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 2: as an underdog type of stuff interest me, although I 753 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 2: don't think we would ever. We're never going to do 754 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 2: like that meme last week, go oh, Kobe Covench. It's 755 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,959 Speaker 2: kind of lame. Let's do a let's sabotage his career. 756 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, we only I mean again, I know 757 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: people are like, oh, and you know you're killing these guys. 758 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: You know, obviously it's whatever, but it's not designed for that. 759 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: It's designed to be uh informative and kind of candidly 760 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: a little bit of homage to the person who is 761 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: the subject of it, so that folks can understand the 762 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: significance of the moment and also what brought them to 763 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: that moment. Obviously, it has been a case where we 764 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: have picked but didn't it wasn't it true that Ariel 765 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: had done a series of interviews with ESPN prior's departure, 766 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: and he had done the exact same ones we had 767 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 1: done for resume review, not. 768 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 2: As many, but he was doing those those weird U 769 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 2: pandemic ones where he would do it from like the 770 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:51,280 Speaker 2: basement of a factory. 771 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: It looked like or working on TV or something, right, Yeah, 772 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 1: and he'd be. 773 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 2: Looking at the TV and they would set it up 774 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,399 Speaker 2: that way and they were you know, they were well 775 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 2: shot and well done. But he was picking you know, 776 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 2: he picked McGregor, which is the guy you would want 777 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 2: to talk to heading into a second poor a fight, right, 778 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 2: he picked out a Sonia, which is the guy you 779 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 2: would want to talk to going for a second title 780 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,439 Speaker 2: against Blahovich. So it's it's not like rocket science. But yeah, 781 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 2: he picked masud all the same thing. 782 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: It just shows you that we have similar like he 783 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,760 Speaker 1: and I and you in terms of what we find interesting. 784 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 1: We all have similar news judgment. That's really what the 785 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 1: common denominator is there. We kind of spotlight, oh, what's 786 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 1: interesting to us. We all have similar sensibilities about what 787 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 1: that is. Now as a prediction engine, it's uh, it's 788 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 1: a disaster, but it's not, it's not designed to be that. 789 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,439 Speaker 2: So you know, yeah, Austin Aio. Very similar. I agree 790 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:37,280 Speaker 2: with you, very similar. 791 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: All right, last question here we see here we go 792 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 1: from tayrou No wait tie Rush Shirter Rush Rushooter. I 793 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 1: love this show before and after every big fight Luke 794 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: and BC three times a week, never disappoints. Blah blah blah. 795 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,720 Speaker 1: Question for you guys, who do you think should be next? 796 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: Uh to be hit with a long where Brian's cat 797 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: or Brian? 798 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 2: No? 799 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,959 Speaker 1: Seriously, who do you guys think should be next for UFC? 800 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 1: By the way, Josh Emmett as he is awaiting his 801 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 1: return from knee injury. Has that dude fought since the 802 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 1: what you call it the. 803 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 2: Not since the fight against uh the Burgos Burgos? No, No, 804 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 2: we need him back, Luke, this divisions hot. We need him. 805 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 1: What's up with that cat? Bro? 806 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 2: This is the longest she's ever let me hold it 807 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 2: hold her, so I'm kind of just rolling with it. 808 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:26,800 Speaker 2: This is Emma. She's amazing. 809 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:27,879 Speaker 1: He's actually pretty chill. 810 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's she's awesome. She loves my office. She doesn't 811 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 2: really love me. 812 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 1: That much, but this is great, you know, I mean, 813 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 1: who does. 814 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 2: I'm more of a reggie guy. You know, I tracked crazy. 815 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 1: Hey, why don't you lick and put your mouth closer 816 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,240 Speaker 1: to the place of your cat uses the litter box? 817 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 1: You filthy, filthy cracker? 818 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 2: Can you pick up this purring on camera? Here? Luke 819 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 2: tell it. I'm tell him. Emma, Oh yeah, look at that. 820 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 2: Look that's great theater. This is great content. I mean, 821 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 2: you can't get that. You can't get this is on 822 00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 2: DC and Alwaannie, I'll tell you that much. 823 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 1: This is how you know Brian has checked the fuck out. 824 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 1: I mean, look at this. He liked Brian's the kind 825 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: of guy like, in the middle of a conversation, he'll 826 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: just like lean over and audibly fart in front of 827 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: a table, just so that the conversation can switch to 828 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 1: something different. He's like, I'm tired of this, I'm tired 829 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:18,760 Speaker 1: of this topic. 830 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 2: Let me ask it's not true, It's not true at all. 831 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: Let me make a Miguel what was his face with 832 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: the mullet who made the rape van joke? 833 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 2: Miguel Torres guy, Yes, yes, yes, wow, go a deep 834 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 2: dive right there. 835 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 1: Yeah wow, yeah, Like, yeah, I don't I don't know 836 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: about the rape van jokes as a good idea. Well, 837 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 1: I can say this BC, this has been something. 838 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 2: You know. Can we take people behind the fourth wall? Luke, 839 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:45,840 Speaker 2: you and I are going to film a few of 840 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 2: these back to back to fill out a vacation. I said, look, 841 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 2: why don't we change T shirts to make it look 842 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 2: like we're not doing it on the same day, back 843 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 2: to back to back. You're like, I ain't changing shit, man, 844 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 2: I'm more than the fucking T shirt right here. 845 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 1: Man, I wear the shirt the whole. 846 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 2: To How lame was that? 847 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 1: Bro? 848 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 2: Right? 849 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,800 Speaker 1: Why don't you go commit more unspeakable actually feline cats. 850 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 1: Why don't you do that? 851 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,840 Speaker 2: All right? You had a question, I'm ready to answer it. 852 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,919 Speaker 1: Let's do it. I don't eve give a shit this morning. 853 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: What's the last one here? 854 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 2: Uh? 855 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, joshm but who do you want to fight? 856 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 2: I got the top ten right in front of you, 857 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:22,320 Speaker 2: right in front of me. 858 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 1: How about Oh, he's a little bit ahead of him, though, No, Gay, 859 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 1: you could do. 860 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 2: Get Gay is coming off a win? Correct? No? 861 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 1: I think didn't heard. 862 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 2: Hey, Arnold Allen hasn't been exposed, right, Nope, he's good dude, 863 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 2: He's tough a shit. That'd be a good fight. Or 864 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 2: or Calvin Cator who who's coming off the Max fight? 865 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 2: Still right? 866 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,319 Speaker 1: Yeah? By the way, he Gay lost to Chan Sung 867 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 1: jung in his last fight in June. 868 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 2: Good call? Yes, yes, what the hell do I know? Luke? Right? 869 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: All right, Well, we can call it a day on 870 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 1: these We appreciate all of your questions. Continue to leave 871 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,840 Speaker 1: leive us a five star review on Apple podcast, and 872 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: of course you can put a question in there. We'll 873 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: eventually get to it. You can't like this video, you 874 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 1: can subscribe to the channel, and of course you can 875 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 1: go to Morningcombat Dot store for any pieces of merch 876 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,439 Speaker 1: you want to wear for this boring, boring podcast BC. 877 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 1: Anything else, No, I. 878 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 2: Gotta go change your shirt for them when we do 879 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 2: next after this, look right back. 880 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 1: All right for BC. I'm Luke Thomas. Thank you guys 881 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 1: so much for watching. Until next time, all of your 882 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 1: games be loyal