Speaker 1: Welcome to Criminalia, a production of Shondaland Audio in partnership
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Speaker 2: In September of nineteen fifty four, twenty one year old
Speaker 2: Gene Townshend was living with her parents on Bempton Drive
Speaker 2: in South Ricelip, an area of West London in the
Speaker 2: Borough of Hillingdon. She worked as a theatrical costume designer
Speaker 2: and seamstress in London's West End and was developing a
Speaker 2: highly respectable reputation. She was described as having been a
Speaker 2: quote friend of stage and to actors. The director of
Speaker 2: the company she worked for called her, quote a very
Speaker 2: sweet girl, intelligent and charming. It sounds like things were
Speaker 2: really taking off for this young woman until one night
Speaker 2: when she was killed on her way home from a
Speaker 2: social event. Who was responsible for her death remains a
Speaker 2: mystery still today. Welcome to Criminalia. I'm Maria Tremarki and.
Speaker 1: I'm Holly Frye. Jean's body was discovered the morning of
Speaker 1: September fifteenth, at around seven am on an empty lot
Speaker 1: to the north side of Victoria Road, right near its
Speaker 1: intersection with Angus Drive, and she was only about six
Speaker 1: hundred yards from home. Her body was found in tall grass,
Speaker 1: but it was noted by those first to the scene
Speaker 1: that the part of the grass that was usually very tall,
Speaker 1: over six feet tall in some areas, was flattened. Maybe
Speaker 1: considered authorities she had been dragged there. Scotland Yard quickly
Speaker 1: put Detective Superintendent Paul Richardson in charge of the case.
Speaker 1: He worked closely with local law enforcement and an investigative
Speaker 1: team got started.
Speaker 2: Jean had spent the evening of September fourteenth a party
Speaker 2: with friends at a nightclub called the Pyramid Club not
Speaker 2: far from her work. She left at about eleven PM
Speaker 2: and boarded the final Central Line train home from the
Speaker 2: West End that night. She was last seen walking out
Speaker 2: of south Ry Slip Station at eleven forty five pm
Speaker 2: along Victoria Road in the direction of her parents' house.
Speaker 2: It was less than a twenty minute walk door to door,
Speaker 2: but she was never seen alive again.
Speaker 1: According to the post mortem conducted by Home Office pathologist
Speaker 1: Professor Donald Tyr, Jeanne was found mostly clothed, though her shoes,
Speaker 1: undergarments and stockings had been removed and carefully gathered beside
Speaker 1: her body. Tyr determined her cause of death as strangulation.
Speaker 1: The murder weapon according to his report, had been her
Speaker 1: own black and gold silk scarf. He noted that otherwise
Speaker 1: her body showed no signs of injury, nor were there
Speaker 1: any signs of a struggle, and although a few items
Speaker 1: of her clothing had been removed, there was also no
Speaker 1: sign of sexual assault.
Speaker 2: And that was all anyone knew. Still, early in the investigation,
Speaker 2: authorities assumed a few things about that night. They didn't
Speaker 2: believe Jean knew her killer, and they theorized that she
Speaker 2: was most likely offered a ride or was forced into
Speaker 2: a car after she left the train station, but those
Speaker 2: were guesses. They didn't have any evidence to back either
Speaker 2: of those things up.
Speaker 1: The closest witness to the crime was believed to have
Speaker 1: been Brenda Thompson, though her distance from the crime scene
Speaker 1: made it a bit of a stretch, investigators did interview her.
Speaker 1: Brenda lived with her parents on Westmead Road, which overlooked
Speaker 1: the area of Victoria Road where Jane was killed. Brenda
Speaker 1: had been in bed that night when she heard a
Speaker 1: woman's scream. She recalled looking out the window, but stated
Speaker 1: to authorities that she was unable to see any activity outside.
Speaker 1: Calling for her father, the two listened at the window,
Speaker 1: Brenda reported that they heard two men arguing, one of
Speaker 1: whom had an American accent. In her account, Brenda also
Speaker 1: stated that the evening prior to Jean's death, she herself
Speaker 1: had had an encounter with two men as she walked
Speaker 1: by the lot where Jean's body had been found. Those
Speaker 1: men had tried to stop her, but she ran home.
Speaker 2: The idea that an American voice was heard the night
Speaker 2: of Jean's death raised suspicions and grew theories that she
Speaker 2: was murdered by a member of the United States military.
Speaker 2: Now this wasn't an impossible idea. American military were stationed
Speaker 2: nearby at South Ry Slip Air Station, home to the
Speaker 2: United States Air Force's Third Air Force. The Third had
Speaker 2: been at Ryce Slip since nineteen fifty one with the
Speaker 2: assignment of managing the growing presence of the Air Force
Speaker 2: in the UK. Thousands of United States military personnel were
Speaker 2: stationed there, and it became the investigation team's new focus.
Speaker 2: Local rumors alleged that the base commander was unwilling to
Speaker 2: allow his forces to be interviewed in the inquiry, and,
Speaker 2: as rumors can do, true or faulse that only heightened
Speaker 2: local suspicions against the American military's involvement in the case.
Speaker 1: We're going to take a break here for a word
Speaker 1: from our sponsors, and when we return, we'll talk about
Speaker 1: the numerous women in South Ricelip who may have encountered
Speaker 1: the mystery murderer before he killed jean.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Criminalia. Let's talk about related cases and
Speaker 2: the details other women in South rice Slip were able
Speaker 2: to provide based on their own scary encounters with the
Speaker 2: guy who sounds like he could have been the prime
Speaker 2: suspect fact if anyone could figure out who he was.
Speaker 1: As investigators considered the possibility that their suspect might be
Speaker 1: in the United States military, they also considered the possibility
Speaker 1: that this wasn't the killer's first murder, and they tried
Speaker 1: to tie these two theories together. Several similar recent murders
Speaker 1: had happened in West Germany near American military bases, but
Speaker 1: when investigated, no connection was made to the murder in
Speaker 1: South Ricelip. Back in England, just a week before Jeanne's death,
Speaker 1: on September sixth, a twenty eight year old sex worker
Speaker 1: named Ellen Carlin, known as Red Helen because of her
Speaker 1: long red hair was killed in Pimlico in central London,
Speaker 1: shortly after being seen entering her room with a United
Speaker 1: States Air Force sergeant. Screams were reportedly heard coming from
Speaker 1: her room around midnight when she was found. Ellen had
Speaker 1: been beaten about her head before being strangled with her
Speaker 1: own skins, so these cases had overlap in regard to
Speaker 1: the scarf. The American military theory didn't hold true here, though.
Speaker 1: Scottish serial killer Peter Manuel confessed to Ellen's murder, but
Speaker 1: that's always rung a little strange for many people. Manuel
Speaker 1: terrorized Scotland in a series of brutal murders of young women,
Speaker 1: so he certainly fit the profile. But his murder spree
Speaker 1: took place between nineteen fifty six and nineteen fifty eight,
Speaker 1: so that was after Ellen was killed. Investigators did not
Speaker 1: link the deaths of Ellen and Jean.
Speaker 2: Reports suggest that local police took more than six hundred
Speaker 2: statements during the investigation of Jean's murder. One local woman
Speaker 2: came forward claiming she had been followed and attacked by
Speaker 2: a man with a quote high forehead on the same
Speaker 2: road about a week before Jean's murder happened, and that
Speaker 2: kicked off a slew of statements from other women.
Speaker 1: Another local resident, Jacqueline, told reporters this she had been
Speaker 1: approached repeatedly by a man with a high forehead who
Speaker 1: spoke with an American accent and drove an American car.
Speaker 1: She estimated that he was about thirty years old. Another
Speaker 1: local woman, Joan Galla, came forward to claim that she
Speaker 1: had been accosted by a man with a high forehead
Speaker 1: on the Saturday night before Jean's murder. Several other women
Speaker 1: also came forward, and each of them reported that they
Speaker 1: had been approached by a quote strange man close to
Speaker 1: where Jean's body had been found, and there were similarities
Speaker 1: among these reports. One obviously it was a man, Two
Speaker 1: it was a man that they all described as having
Speaker 1: a high forehead, and three that man with the high
Speaker 1: forehead had an American accent in most of these accounts,
Speaker 1: and possibly an American car.
Speaker 2: About three weeks after Jean's murder, missus Doris Bennell reported
Speaker 2: to the local police that she had been followed and
Speaker 2: attacked by a man outside North Harrow Station that's no
Speaker 2: more than five miles or so from the South Ryeslip station.
Speaker 2: She stated that her attacker had boarded the train at
Speaker 2: Baker Street station and that he then watched her during
Speaker 2: the entire ride until he followed her off the train
Speaker 2: at North Harrow. It's there, according to her report, at
Speaker 2: about midnight, where Doris confronted him about why he was
Speaker 2: following her and that she wanted him to stop, and
Speaker 2: that's when he attacked her. She managed to get away,
Speaker 2: but only after a struggle during which she tore three
Speaker 2: buttons off her assailant's jacket. She described her attacker as
Speaker 2: a man in his thirties with a high forehead. She
Speaker 2: returned to the scene the next day to collect the buttons.
Speaker 2: She gave them to the police as she relayed details
Speaker 2: of her attack, but nothing came from the incident or
Speaker 2: the details she provided During the investigation. Some local residents
Speaker 2: organized safe escorts for women to and from the train
Speaker 2: station at night.
Speaker 1: Sixteen years after Jane's death, her case still unsolved. A
Speaker 1: woman named Gloria Booth was killed in the same manner
Speaker 1: and in the same area. Investigators considered that maybe it
Speaker 1: was the same killer, but they were never able to
Speaker 1: substantiate that claim. By what is surely a strange coincidence
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, twenty year old Osmond Shane was fatally
Speaker 1: stabbed in essentially the exact same place as Jean and
Speaker 1: Gloria had been killed. This is an area that has
Speaker 1: since been dubbed the Rice Lip Murder Mile.
Speaker 2: We are going to take a break for a word
Speaker 2: from our sponsors. When we're back, we'll talk about where
Speaker 2: the case stands today.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to Criminalia. Case came alive again in the
Speaker 1: nineteen eighties, so let's talk about the good and the
Speaker 1: not so good about that revival.
Speaker 2: In nineteen eighty two, following a cluster of anonymous phone
Speaker 2: calls about Jean's death, local police started reviewing the case
Speaker 2: files again. The calls went nowhere, but nearly thirty years
Speaker 2: after the murder, investigators concluded two things from them, though
Speaker 2: they didn't go into reasons. Authorities were now one hundred
Speaker 2: percent positive that the killer had not been in the
Speaker 2: United States Air Force, and they also didn't think Jean's
Speaker 2: murder was linked to any other suspicious activity in the
Speaker 2: area at the time, but the case it still didn't
Speaker 2: move forward.
Speaker 1: Jean's mother, Lillian Townsend, was interviewed by The Daily Mail
Speaker 1: that same year, and she was quoted saying I never
Speaker 1: really got over her death. A clairvoyant told me whoever
Speaker 1: did it was far away across water. But now it's
Speaker 1: nothing to me. I am not vindictive. I don't know
Speaker 1: why they should reopen the case.
Speaker 2: Jump ahead to fifty one years after Jean's murder to
Speaker 2: two thousand and five. Reg Hargrave, a former neighbor and
Speaker 2: school friend of Jean's, believed there was a cover up
Speaker 2: by authorities and formally requested access to the police files
Speaker 2: for the case. By this time, the files had been
Speaker 2: moved to the National Archives in Q, but regardless of location,
Speaker 2: the request for the case files via the Freedom of
Speaker 2: Information Act was refused. An appeal was heard in a
Speaker 2: closed door hearing in late two thousand and seven, but
Speaker 2: ultimately the Information Tribunal dismissed the appeal and ruled to
Speaker 2: withhold the case files from public inspection until the year
Speaker 2: twenty thirty one. I know, right, so let's talk about
Speaker 2: the agenda of that hearing.
Speaker 1: Members of the investigative team addressed those in attendance. A
Speaker 1: retired detective who had worked on Jane's case claimed that
Speaker 1: investigators did have someone in mind at the time, but
Speaker 1: they didn't have enough evidence to bring him in for questioning.
Speaker 1: It was also disclosed that though the case files had
Speaker 1: been substantial, a number of items had gone missing over
Speaker 1: the years.
Speaker 2: There was some evidence presented and reviewed. Jane's clothing had
Speaker 2: been re examined by the Forensic Science Service in the
Speaker 2: nineteen nineties in an effort to obtain DNA evidence, but
Speaker 2: the results were quote, nothing of value. The tribunal also
Speaker 2: reviewed the original post mortem report from nineteen fifty four.
Speaker 2: Pathologist Tyr who conducted that autopsy, recounted his report and
Speaker 2: then began to make unsolicited guesses about the crime, wondering
Speaker 2: aloud that because some of Jane's clothing had been removed
Speaker 2: and the clothing she was wearing had been a little
Speaker 2: quote disturbed, if her death had been an attempted sexual
Speaker 2: assault that had ended in now that was all one
Speaker 2: pure speculation.
Speaker 1: Given the number of reported instances of local women being
Speaker 1: approached in the weeks and days prior to Jean's murder,
Speaker 1: each by a man who they all described in pretty
Speaker 1: similar ways, but not in a lot of detail, the
Speaker 1: tribunal felt the attack was likely a quote premeditated but
Speaker 1: opportunistic murderer in their closing document, they stated, and this
Speaker 1: is a small quote if you can believe it quote.
Speaker 1: The critical issue is whether there is indeed any substantial
Speaker 1: likelihood of the murderer being detected and or a prosecution
Speaker 1: being undertaken. Whilst we have regard to the general consideration
Speaker 1: set out in the Information Commissioners and the Metropolitan Police's submissions,
Speaker 1: and in a statement by Scotland Yards Detective Superintendent David Maveld,
Speaker 1: who was representing the Commissioner at the hearing, we are
Speaker 1: not impressed by some of them. Given the age of
Speaker 1: the case. There is no reason of which we are
Speaker 1: aware why any witness should now have a critical change
Speaker 1: of heart or crisis of conscience. Forensic science may advance
Speaker 1: in unforeseen ways, and a detective might spot a connection
Speaker 1: which eluded his or her predecessors fifty years ago. Such
Speaker 1: possibilities of progress cannot be excluded, but they hardly amount
Speaker 1: to substantial reasons for thinking that there will ever be
Speaker 1: a future investigation which might be prejudiced. Where information is
Speaker 1: requested as to a long dormant investigation, it may well
Speaker 1: be that a simple recitation of standard policy arguments will
Speaker 1: not suffice to overcome the first hurdle standing in the
Speaker 1: way of this exemption. This document continues quote. However, we
Speaker 1: heard further evidence in the private session which clearly altered
Speaker 1: our view on this issue. Because it was specific to
Speaker 1: this case. It did not indicate that a future identification
Speaker 1: prosecution of the killer was more likely than not. It
Speaker 1: did persuade us that there was a significant possibility of
Speaker 1: such a development, such as to satisfy the test imposed
Speaker 1: by section thirty one.
Speaker 2: Okay, so that was a little dense to get through.
Speaker 2: So let's talk about what the tribunal meant by exceptions
Speaker 2: and section thirty one, because it's important to understand why
Speaker 2: it may or may not mean justice for Gene in
Speaker 2: the future. There are some legal exemptions for refusing to
Speaker 2: release information under regulations of the UK Freedom of Information Act,
Speaker 2: and the Tribunal felt one exemption, called the prejudice based
Speaker 2: exemption was appropriate to keep the case closed. It states
Speaker 2: that public authorities must demonstrate that disclosing certain information could
Speaker 2: interfere with or undermine the work of law enforcement agencies.
Speaker 2: The Tribunal concluded that even though there was nothing to
Speaker 2: suggest that identification of the killer, either through a confession
Speaker 2: or new information, was in any way imminent. The quote
Speaker 2: considerable passage of time has not destroyed any possibility of
Speaker 2: prosecuting a suspected offender. Not only did they want to
Speaker 2: avoid bias or influence on the future of the case,
Speaker 2: the tribunal also believed that public interest favored the files
Speaker 2: to be withheld from public inspection.
Speaker 1: Seventy years later, Jean's murder remains unsolved, her case file
Speaker 1: remains closed at least until twenty thirty one, and the
Speaker 1: man with the high forehead, he and his possible American accent,
Speaker 1: remain a mystery.
Speaker 2: This one is very much a mystery.
Speaker 1: With all of that in mind, would you like to
Speaker 1: step into the cooler with me?
Speaker 2: I would very much.
Speaker 1: So here's what I of course obsessed. O. Yeah, in
Speaker 1: six years, I'm going to be following up on this,
Speaker 1: and so this drink is called six years. And I
Speaker 1: wanted to because there is an a lot of information
Speaker 1: regarding her case, at least not that's been publicly available.
Speaker 1: I wanted to keep it a little bit simple. And
Speaker 1: because that high forehead thing keeps coming up, which, by
Speaker 1: the way, I mean maybe this is just me, but
Speaker 1: I kept thinking, how high is this forehead that that's
Speaker 1: the one identifying thing that every woman mentioned.
Speaker 2: I thought so too, like did he did?
Speaker 1: Was it? That was it?
Speaker 2: That was the thing.
Speaker 1: So that made me think of something we haven't really
Speaker 1: talked about on the show before, and that's highballs.
Speaker 2: Hey we haven't.
Speaker 1: But like, highballs are not fancy wild drinks at all.
Speaker 1: All a high ball is is spirit, usually an ounce
Speaker 1: and a half, maybe two ounces if you got a
Speaker 1: heavy hand and a mixer. That's all it is. So
Speaker 1: like when you order like a vodka cranberry or a
Speaker 1: whiskey ginger, you're essentially ordering a high ball. And the
Speaker 1: proportion is important there because there there's much more of
Speaker 1: the mixer than the spirit. Normally, it's there intended to
Speaker 1: be a pretty light drink that you could have several
Speaker 1: of without really getting super smashed. But so I was like, great,
Speaker 1: let's come up with our own high ball. That way
Speaker 1: we can keep the ingredients down to a minimum. We
Speaker 1: do have more than just two. And I wanted it
Speaker 1: to be gold because of the Pyramid Club for some reason,
Speaker 1: like that really stuck in my mind, which I associate
Speaker 1: with you know, Egypt and golden leaf things. And here
Speaker 1: was the big thing because we have to wait six
Speaker 1: more years for these documents to be released, maybe released right,
Speaker 1: for them to go through it re evaluated, right. I
Speaker 1: also wanted to include ingredients that are associated with hope
Speaker 1: because we hope that it happens, and we hope we
Speaker 1: find out more about what happened to Gene, whether there
Speaker 1: was a cover up, whether this was just like a
Speaker 1: person who had this idea in mind that they wanted
Speaker 1: to commit a murderer random poor Gene just happened to
Speaker 1: be the person. So, doing a bit of research on
Speaker 1: things that have been associated with hope, two things kept
Speaker 1: coming up across a lot of different cultures and in
Speaker 1: a lot of different ways, and in a lot of
Speaker 1: different iterations of what hope means within those cultures. But
Speaker 1: one of them is honey, which comes up a lot interesting,
Speaker 1: and another is apples like the and the two combined
Speaker 1: are often in multiple different cultures used as like part
Speaker 1: of a food spread on events or holidays that are
Speaker 1: associated with new beginnings. So those seemed good to me, so,
Speaker 1: but we're not gonna do a lot of either of them,
Speaker 1: just enough to add a little a little softness to
Speaker 1: this drink. So you're gonna use just a half ounce
Speaker 1: of honey. We're not you don't have to do honey syrup.
Speaker 1: We're about to kind of make it on our own.
Speaker 1: You're gonna do a half ounce of honey and then
Speaker 1: a half ounce of apple juice, and I would use
Speaker 1: a pretty low sugar one here. Because you are using honey.
Speaker 1: You may want to let that just sit together for
Speaker 1: a little while and give it a stir like I
Speaker 1: just put it like a ramkin and stirred it here
Speaker 1: and there. Because we're not going to do this in
Speaker 1: a shaking tin. We're building in the glass again to
Speaker 1: keep it simple. And so once that's well incorporated, you
Speaker 1: will get a high ball glass or a glass stick
Speaker 1: and hold, you know, about ten to twelve ounces of liquid,
Speaker 1: fill it with ice, pour over your honey in apple mixture,
Speaker 1: and then on top of that, you're gonna pour an
Speaker 1: ounce and a half of Reposodo tequila, and then four
Speaker 1: to five ounces of a sharp ginger ale. When I
Speaker 1: say sharp ginger ale, here's what I mean. We all
Speaker 1: know the big name ginger ales that are in your
Speaker 1: grocery store, which are wonderful and I use them all
Speaker 1: the time, but they're not for this drink. They can't.
Speaker 1: They can be if you want it softer, but what
Speaker 1: we really want is something that is just a little edgy.
Speaker 1: Or so you're gonna go in my grocery store. I
Speaker 1: know there's kind of a separate area on the soft
Speaker 1: drinks aisle that is clearly like these are for mixed drinks.
Speaker 1: Might have the same yeah, right where they have like
Speaker 1: the brands that are really made for bartending and mixed
Speaker 1: drink stuff. And choose one of those ginger ales, or
Speaker 1: if you have one that's a little sharp that you
Speaker 1: really love, great, and that's it. You're just gonna pour
Speaker 1: the repisoud of tequila in, pour the sharp ginger ale
Speaker 1: over it, and you are ready to serve. You can
Speaker 1: do it with a little apple slice garnish if you want.
Speaker 1: You can even dip that apple in a little bit
Speaker 1: of honey if you really want to sell this idea
Speaker 1: of hope. But it's a very simple drink, super easy
Speaker 1: to make, really easy to sip on, not too heavy.
Speaker 1: Here's a nice thing. It's also a little bit of
Speaker 1: a choose your own adventure because if you don't like tequila,
Speaker 1: that's no problem.
Speaker 2: This will work with other things.
Speaker 1: I mean, it really feel you can literally do this
Speaker 1: with your bourbon, with your gin in, with your vodka.
Speaker 1: You could do it with run like you can kind
Speaker 1: of put in whatever your spirit of choice is. But
Speaker 1: I wanted to do tequila because it just felt right.
Speaker 1: We haven't used it a bunch of this this season yet.
Speaker 1: And also I don't know, I kind of think about
Speaker 1: this as like the kind of drink they would serve
Speaker 1: at a post theater party at a club called the
Speaker 1: Pyramid Club. I know, it just feels like the right
Speaker 1: drink for it. So for the mocktail, super duper easy.
Speaker 1: All you're gonna do is you're gonna build it as
Speaker 1: it is. Since we're already dealing with a pretty diluted
Speaker 1: spirit situation here, You're just gonna up your ginger ale amount.
Speaker 1: But in addition, when you're mixing your honey and your
Speaker 1: apple juice, you're also gonna add about three quarters of
Speaker 1: an ounce of just plain water and a couple of
Speaker 1: slices of klopeno, and you're gonna mix them together and
Speaker 1: let them sit a little bit together. And you want
Speaker 1: fresh halopeno here, this is not your time for your pickle,
Speaker 1: your pickle talapeno. You're gonna let them all sit together
Speaker 1: for a little bit stirm STM storm and you'll strain
Speaker 1: that one in that case, Or if you could, if
Speaker 1: you just want to pull your halopeno slices out and
Speaker 1: you can get all the seeds, great, you just don't
Speaker 1: want any residue or bits of halopena left in there.
Speaker 1: And then that just kind of kicks it up. It
Speaker 1: gives it a little bit of that deeper flavor that
Speaker 1: the Reposato tequila would normally impart. But it's also a
Speaker 1: very breezy sip in it's gold. Yeah, it's a really
Speaker 1: it's very crisp and refreshing. So that is the six
Speaker 1: years I know, I'm putting it on my twenty thirty
Speaker 1: one calendar that we got to follow up on this.
Speaker 2: So let me tell you like that Hearing originally closed
Speaker 2: the files until twenty fifty something and then backed off
Speaker 2: on it to twenty thirty one. So we're actually a
Speaker 2: little lucky in that record.
Speaker 1: A little a little justice for Gene, I really like.
Speaker 1: I just it does seem weird that they're.
Speaker 2: Like, no, I can't have them, no, thank you, Uh.
Speaker 1: We don't need to. It makes me, it makes me
Speaker 1: start to believe her friend, who is like, I think
Speaker 1: there's a cover up. What are you hiding?
Speaker 2: Why can't I have them? I know I have the
Speaker 2: same thoughts whenever, whenever I'm writing about a Foyer refusal
Speaker 2: in particular, Yeah, what about that? Don't you want me
Speaker 2: to see? Is what always just comes to mind.
Speaker 1: So hopefully, as you sip this drink, you have clarity.
Speaker 1: You don't have to wait on anything to be revealed
Speaker 1: to you. We will reveal yet another story to you
Speaker 1: next week, and another drink recipe with a mocktail to
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