WEBVTT - The Unsolved Murder of Jean Townsend 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:04.399 Welcome to Criminalia, a production of Shondaland Audio in partnership 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:23.799 with iHeartRadio. 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:27.360 In September of nineteen fifty four, twenty one year old 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:30.280 Gene Townshend was living with her parents on Bempton Drive 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:33.120 in South Ricelip, an area of West London in the 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:37.519 Borough of Hillingdon. She worked as a theatrical costume designer 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:41.400 and seamstress in London's West End and was developing a 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:46.400 highly respectable reputation. She was described as having been a 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:50.239 quote friend of stage and to actors. The director of 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:53.320 the company she worked for called her, quote a very 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:57.440 sweet girl, intelligent and charming. It sounds like things were 0:00:57.480 --> 0:01:01.880 really taking off for this young woman until one night 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:03.960 when she was killed on her way home from a 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:07.840 social event. Who was responsible for her death remains a 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:12.759 mystery still today. Welcome to Criminalia. I'm Maria Tremarki and. 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:16.679 I'm Holly Frye. Jean's body was discovered the morning of 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:20.240 September fifteenth, at around seven am on an empty lot 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:23.319 to the north side of Victoria Road, right near its 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:26.920 intersection with Angus Drive, and she was only about six 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:31.560 hundred yards from home. Her body was found in tall grass, 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:34.080 but it was noted by those first to the scene 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:37.560 that the part of the grass that was usually very tall, 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:42.720 over six feet tall in some areas, was flattened. Maybe 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:47.240 considered authorities she had been dragged there. Scotland Yard quickly 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:51.360 put Detective Superintendent Paul Richardson in charge of the case. 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:55.560 He worked closely with local law enforcement and an investigative 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:56.800 team got started. 0:01:57.640 --> 0:02:00.559 Jean had spent the evening of September fourteenth a party 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:03.480 with friends at a nightclub called the Pyramid Club not 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:07.000 far from her work. She left at about eleven PM 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:09.520 and boarded the final Central Line train home from the 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:13.320 West End that night. She was last seen walking out 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:16.600 of south Ry Slip Station at eleven forty five pm 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:19.560 along Victoria Road in the direction of her parents' house. 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:23.000 It was less than a twenty minute walk door to door, 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:25.040 but she was never seen alive again. 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:29.399 According to the post mortem conducted by Home Office pathologist 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:34.920 Professor Donald Tyr, Jeanne was found mostly clothed, though her shoes, 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:39.400 undergarments and stockings had been removed and carefully gathered beside 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:43.560 her body. Tyr determined her cause of death as strangulation. 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:46.840 The murder weapon according to his report, had been her 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:51.160 own black and gold silk scarf. He noted that otherwise 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:54.560 her body showed no signs of injury, nor were there 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:58.200 any signs of a struggle, and although a few items 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:01.320 of her clothing had been removed, there was also no 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:03.480 sign of sexual assault. 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:08.800 And that was all anyone knew. Still, early in the investigation, 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:13.440 authorities assumed a few things about that night. They didn't 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:17.840 believe Jean knew her killer, and they theorized that she 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:21.440 was most likely offered a ride or was forced into 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:24.800 a car after she left the train station, but those 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:28.320 were guesses. They didn't have any evidence to back either 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:29.200 of those things up. 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:32.520 The closest witness to the crime was believed to have 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:36.760 been Brenda Thompson, though her distance from the crime scene 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:40.840 made it a bit of a stretch, investigators did interview her. 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:45.200 Brenda lived with her parents on Westmead Road, which overlooked 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:49.520 the area of Victoria Road where Jane was killed. Brenda 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:51.600 had been in bed that night when she heard a 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:55.600 woman's scream. She recalled looking out the window, but stated 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:59.240 to authorities that she was unable to see any activity outside. 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:03.080 Calling for her father, the two listened at the window, 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:07.280 Brenda reported that they heard two men arguing, one of 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:11.600 whom had an American accent. In her account, Brenda also 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:15.279 stated that the evening prior to Jean's death, she herself 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:18.159 had had an encounter with two men as she walked 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:21.760 by the lot where Jean's body had been found. Those 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:24.719 men had tried to stop her, but she ran home. 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:28.960 The idea that an American voice was heard the night 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:33.640 of Jean's death raised suspicions and grew theories that she 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:36.640 was murdered by a member of the United States military. 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:43.200 Now this wasn't an impossible idea. American military were stationed 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:46.479 nearby at South Ry Slip Air Station, home to the 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:50.000 United States Air Force's Third Air Force. The Third had 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:52.279 been at Ryce Slip since nineteen fifty one with the 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:55.280 assignment of managing the growing presence of the Air Force 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:59.040 in the UK. Thousands of United States military personnel were 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:03.640 stationed there, and it became the investigation team's new focus. 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:08.200 Local rumors alleged that the base commander was unwilling to 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:11.440 allow his forces to be interviewed in the inquiry, and, 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:15.240 as rumors can do, true or faulse that only heightened 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:19.240 local suspicions against the American military's involvement in the case. 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:21.720 We're going to take a break here for a word 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:25.160 from our sponsors, and when we return, we'll talk about 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:29.040 the numerous women in South Ricelip who may have encountered 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:31.680 the mystery murderer before he killed jean. 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:50.760 Welcome back to Criminalia. Let's talk about related cases and 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:54.080 the details other women in South rice Slip were able 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:57.320 to provide based on their own scary encounters with the 0:05:57.320 --> 0:05:59.559 guy who sounds like he could have been the prime 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:02.919 suspect fact if anyone could figure out who he was. 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:08.039 As investigators considered the possibility that their suspect might be 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:12.480 in the United States military, they also considered the possibility 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:16.479 that this wasn't the killer's first murder, and they tried 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:20.680 to tie these two theories together. Several similar recent murders 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:25.080 had happened in West Germany near American military bases, but 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:28.599 when investigated, no connection was made to the murder in 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:32.800 South Ricelip. Back in England, just a week before Jeanne's death, 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:36.240 on September sixth, a twenty eight year old sex worker 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:39.640 named Ellen Carlin, known as Red Helen because of her 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:43.520 long red hair was killed in Pimlico in central London, 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:47.719 shortly after being seen entering her room with a United 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:52.200 States Air Force sergeant. Screams were reportedly heard coming from 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:56.040 her room around midnight when she was found. Ellen had 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:59.480 been beaten about her head before being strangled with her 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:04.080 own skins, so these cases had overlap in regard to 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:08.760 the scarf. The American military theory didn't hold true here, though. 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:13.960 Scottish serial killer Peter Manuel confessed to Ellen's murder, but 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:18.040 that's always rung a little strange for many people. Manuel 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:21.880 terrorized Scotland in a series of brutal murders of young women, 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:25.600 so he certainly fit the profile. But his murder spree 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:28.920 took place between nineteen fifty six and nineteen fifty eight, 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:33.200 so that was after Ellen was killed. Investigators did not 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:35.119 link the deaths of Ellen and Jean. 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:39.880 Reports suggest that local police took more than six hundred 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:43.960 statements during the investigation of Jean's murder. One local woman 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:47.120 came forward claiming she had been followed and attacked by 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:50.320 a man with a quote high forehead on the same 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:54.560 road about a week before Jean's murder happened, and that 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:57.400 kicked off a slew of statements from other women. 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:02.400 Another local resident, Jacqueline, told reporters this she had been 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:06.320 approached repeatedly by a man with a high forehead who 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:09.600 spoke with an American accent and drove an American car. 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:13.840 She estimated that he was about thirty years old. Another 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:17.280 local woman, Joan Galla, came forward to claim that she 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:20.560 had been accosted by a man with a high forehead 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:24.840 on the Saturday night before Jean's murder. Several other women 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:28.000 also came forward, and each of them reported that they 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:31.680 had been approached by a quote strange man close to 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:35.839 where Jean's body had been found, and there were similarities 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:40.400 among these reports. One obviously it was a man, Two 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:42.520 it was a man that they all described as having 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:46.200 a high forehead, and three that man with the high 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:50.559 forehead had an American accent in most of these accounts, 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:52.520 and possibly an American car. 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:57.640 About three weeks after Jean's murder, missus Doris Bennell reported 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:00.240 to the local police that she had been followed and 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:05.120 attacked by a man outside North Harrow Station that's no 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:08.640 more than five miles or so from the South Ryeslip station. 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:12.120 She stated that her attacker had boarded the train at 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:15.400 Baker Street station and that he then watched her during 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:18.679 the entire ride until he followed her off the train 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:22.480 at North Harrow. It's there, according to her report, at 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:26.160 about midnight, where Doris confronted him about why he was 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:28.719 following her and that she wanted him to stop, and 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:32.079 that's when he attacked her. She managed to get away, 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:34.920 but only after a struggle during which she tore three 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:39.360 buttons off her assailant's jacket. She described her attacker as 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:42.880 a man in his thirties with a high forehead. She 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:45.480 returned to the scene the next day to collect the buttons. 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:48.160 She gave them to the police as she relayed details 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:51.480 of her attack, but nothing came from the incident or 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:55.880 the details she provided During the investigation. Some local residents 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:59.080 organized safe escorts for women to and from the train 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:00.000 station at night. 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:05.040 Sixteen years after Jane's death, her case still unsolved. A 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:08.040 woman named Gloria Booth was killed in the same manner 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:12.640 and in the same area. Investigators considered that maybe it 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:15.000 was the same killer, but they were never able to 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:20.040 substantiate that claim. By what is surely a strange coincidence 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:23.920 in twenty eighteen, twenty year old Osmond Shane was fatally 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:28.160 stabbed in essentially the exact same place as Jean and 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:31.160 Gloria had been killed. This is an area that has 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:33.640 since been dubbed the Rice Lip Murder Mile. 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:36.800 We are going to take a break for a word 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:40.520 from our sponsors. When we're back, we'll talk about where 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:54.240 the case stands today. 0:10:57.040 --> 0:11:02.040 Welcome back to Criminalia. Case came alive again in the 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:06.000 nineteen eighties, so let's talk about the good and the 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:08.160 not so good about that revival. 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:12.559 In nineteen eighty two, following a cluster of anonymous phone 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:16.680 calls about Jean's death, local police started reviewing the case 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:21.760 files again. The calls went nowhere, but nearly thirty years 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:25.800 after the murder, investigators concluded two things from them, though 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:29.520 they didn't go into reasons. Authorities were now one hundred 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:32.240 percent positive that the killer had not been in the 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:36.240 United States Air Force, and they also didn't think Jean's 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:39.400 murder was linked to any other suspicious activity in the 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:43.400 area at the time, but the case it still didn't 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:44.000 move forward. 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:48.600 Jean's mother, Lillian Townsend, was interviewed by The Daily Mail 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:52.560 that same year, and she was quoted saying I never 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:56.240 really got over her death. A clairvoyant told me whoever 0:11:56.280 --> 0:12:00.280 did it was far away across water. But now it's 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:04.200 nothing to me. I am not vindictive. I don't know 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:06.160 why they should reopen the case. 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:10.920 Jump ahead to fifty one years after Jean's murder to 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:15.320 two thousand and five. Reg Hargrave, a former neighbor and 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:18.760 school friend of Jean's, believed there was a cover up 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:22.720 by authorities and formally requested access to the police files 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:26.040 for the case. By this time, the files had been 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:29.720 moved to the National Archives in Q, but regardless of location, 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:32.720 the request for the case files via the Freedom of 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:37.040 Information Act was refused. An appeal was heard in a 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:39.920 closed door hearing in late two thousand and seven, but 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:44.560 ultimately the Information Tribunal dismissed the appeal and ruled to 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:47.800 withhold the case files from public inspection until the year 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:51.520 twenty thirty one. I know, right, so let's talk about 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:53.040 the agenda of that hearing. 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:58.080 Members of the investigative team addressed those in attendance. A 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:01.120 retired detective who had worked on Jane's case claimed that 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:05.360 investigators did have someone in mind at the time, but 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:08.199 they didn't have enough evidence to bring him in for questioning. 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:11.920 It was also disclosed that though the case files had 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:15.560 been substantial, a number of items had gone missing over 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:16.520 the years. 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:20.959 There was some evidence presented and reviewed. Jane's clothing had 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:23.880 been re examined by the Forensic Science Service in the 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:27.800 nineteen nineties in an effort to obtain DNA evidence, but 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:32.760 the results were quote, nothing of value. The tribunal also 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:36.920 reviewed the original post mortem report from nineteen fifty four. 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:43.120 Pathologist Tyr who conducted that autopsy, recounted his report and 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:48.280 then began to make unsolicited guesses about the crime, wondering 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:51.720 aloud that because some of Jane's clothing had been removed 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:54.200 and the clothing she was wearing had been a little 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:58.439 quote disturbed, if her death had been an attempted sexual 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:04.000 assault that had ended in now that was all one 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:06.280 pure speculation. 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:10.920 Given the number of reported instances of local women being 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:14.480 approached in the weeks and days prior to Jean's murder, 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:19.440 each by a man who they all described in pretty 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:22.920 similar ways, but not in a lot of detail, the 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:27.120 tribunal felt the attack was likely a quote premeditated but 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:31.680 opportunistic murderer in their closing document, they stated, and this 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:34.760 is a small quote if you can believe it quote. 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:39.040 The critical issue is whether there is indeed any substantial 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:42.960 likelihood of the murderer being detected and or a prosecution 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:47.640 being undertaken. Whilst we have regard to the general consideration 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:51.920 set out in the Information Commissioners and the Metropolitan Police's submissions, 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:57.040 and in a statement by Scotland Yards Detective Superintendent David Maveld, 0:14:57.240 --> 0:15:00.440 who was representing the Commissioner at the hearing, we are 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:03.080 not impressed by some of them. Given the age of 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:05.960 the case. There is no reason of which we are 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:09.200 aware why any witness should now have a critical change 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:13.880 of heart or crisis of conscience. Forensic science may advance 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:17.280 in unforeseen ways, and a detective might spot a connection 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:21.720 which eluded his or her predecessors fifty years ago. Such 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:25.920 possibilities of progress cannot be excluded, but they hardly amount 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:29.080 to substantial reasons for thinking that there will ever be 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:33.760 a future investigation which might be prejudiced. Where information is 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:37.640 requested as to a long dormant investigation, it may well 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:41.560 be that a simple recitation of standard policy arguments will 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:44.760 not suffice to overcome the first hurdle standing in the 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:49.400 way of this exemption. This document continues quote. However, we 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:53.080 heard further evidence in the private session which clearly altered 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:55.880 our view on this issue. Because it was specific to 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:59.840 this case. It did not indicate that a future identification 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:04.080 prosecution of the killer was more likely than not. It 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:07.800 did persuade us that there was a significant possibility of 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:11.800 such a development, such as to satisfy the test imposed 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:13.080 by section thirty one. 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:17.360 Okay, so that was a little dense to get through. 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:20.720 So let's talk about what the tribunal meant by exceptions 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:24.680 and section thirty one, because it's important to understand why 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:26.840 it may or may not mean justice for Gene in 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:30.720 the future. There are some legal exemptions for refusing to 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:35.080 release information under regulations of the UK Freedom of Information Act, 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:39.280 and the Tribunal felt one exemption, called the prejudice based 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:43.760 exemption was appropriate to keep the case closed. It states 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:48.680 that public authorities must demonstrate that disclosing certain information could 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:52.680 interfere with or undermine the work of law enforcement agencies. 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:56.720 The Tribunal concluded that even though there was nothing to 0:16:56.760 --> 0:17:01.359 suggest that identification of the killer, either through a confession 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:06.199 or new information, was in any way imminent. The quote 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:10.879 considerable passage of time has not destroyed any possibility of 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:14.840 prosecuting a suspected offender. Not only did they want to 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:18.040 avoid bias or influence on the future of the case, 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:22.840 the tribunal also believed that public interest favored the files 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:24.879 to be withheld from public inspection. 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:31.040 Seventy years later, Jean's murder remains unsolved, her case file 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:34.479 remains closed at least until twenty thirty one, and the 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:38.920 man with the high forehead, he and his possible American accent, 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:40.600 remain a mystery. 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:42.680 This one is very much a mystery. 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:44.760 With all of that in mind, would you like to 0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:46.000 step into the cooler with me? 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:47.520 I would very much. 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:50.399 So here's what I of course obsessed. O. Yeah, in 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:52.360 six years, I'm going to be following up on this, 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:58.119 and so this drink is called six years. And I 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:01.399 wanted to because there is an a lot of information 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:05.359 regarding her case, at least not that's been publicly available. 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:08.439 I wanted to keep it a little bit simple. And 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:12.720 because that high forehead thing keeps coming up, which, by 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:15.240 the way, I mean maybe this is just me, but 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:17.800 I kept thinking, how high is this forehead that that's 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:20.720 the one identifying thing that every woman mentioned. 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:22.280 I thought so too, like did he did? 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:23.320 Was it? That was it? 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:24.720 That was the thing. 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:28.640 So that made me think of something we haven't really 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:30.680 talked about on the show before, and that's highballs. 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:31.800 Hey we haven't. 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:36.840 But like, highballs are not fancy wild drinks at all. 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:43.200 All a high ball is is spirit, usually an ounce 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:45.760 and a half, maybe two ounces if you got a 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:49.159 heavy hand and a mixer. That's all it is. So 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:54.119 like when you order like a vodka cranberry or a 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:58.800 whiskey ginger, you're essentially ordering a high ball. And the 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:02.520 proportion is important there because there there's much more of 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:05.439 the mixer than the spirit. Normally, it's there intended to 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:07.600 be a pretty light drink that you could have several 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:13.640 of without really getting super smashed. But so I was like, great, 0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:15.640 let's come up with our own high ball. That way 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:17.760 we can keep the ingredients down to a minimum. We 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:20.439 do have more than just two. And I wanted it 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:26.040 to be gold because of the Pyramid Club for some reason, 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:30.560 like that really stuck in my mind, which I associate 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:35.560 with you know, Egypt and golden leaf things. And here 0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:38.040 was the big thing because we have to wait six 0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:43.560 more years for these documents to be released, maybe released right, 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:47.560 for them to go through it re evaluated, right. I 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:51.480 also wanted to include ingredients that are associated with hope 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:54.840 because we hope that it happens, and we hope we 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:58.120 find out more about what happened to Gene, whether there 0:19:58.200 --> 0:20:01.600 was a cover up, whether this was just like a 0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:05.000 person who had this idea in mind that they wanted 0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:07.760 to commit a murderer random poor Gene just happened to 0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:12.199 be the person. So, doing a bit of research on 0:20:12.320 --> 0:20:14.920 things that have been associated with hope, two things kept 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:18.840 coming up across a lot of different cultures and in 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:20.320 a lot of different ways, and in a lot of 0:20:20.320 --> 0:20:23.199 different iterations of what hope means within those cultures. But 0:20:23.280 --> 0:20:26.680 one of them is honey, which comes up a lot interesting, 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:31.520 and another is apples like the and the two combined 0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:36.760 are often in multiple different cultures used as like part 0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:41.320 of a food spread on events or holidays that are 0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:46.119 associated with new beginnings. So those seemed good to me, so, 0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:48.640 but we're not gonna do a lot of either of them, 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:52.320 just enough to add a little a little softness to 0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:54.879 this drink. So you're gonna use just a half ounce 0:20:54.880 --> 0:20:57.520 of honey. We're not you don't have to do honey syrup. 0:20:57.560 --> 0:20:59.960 We're about to kind of make it on our own. 0:21:00.720 --> 0:21:02.600 You're gonna do a half ounce of honey and then 0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:05.439 a half ounce of apple juice, and I would use 0:21:05.480 --> 0:21:07.719 a pretty low sugar one here. Because you are using honey. 0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:11.480 You may want to let that just sit together for 0:21:11.520 --> 0:21:14.040 a little while and give it a stir like I 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:16.520 just put it like a ramkin and stirred it here 0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:18.000 and there. Because we're not going to do this in 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:20.560 a shaking tin. We're building in the glass again to 0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:24.639 keep it simple. And so once that's well incorporated, you 0:21:24.720 --> 0:21:28.640 will get a high ball glass or a glass stick 0:21:28.640 --> 0:21:32.320 and hold, you know, about ten to twelve ounces of liquid, 0:21:32.440 --> 0:21:37.120 fill it with ice, pour over your honey in apple mixture, 0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:40.199 and then on top of that, you're gonna pour an 0:21:40.240 --> 0:21:43.320 ounce and a half of Reposodo tequila, and then four 0:21:43.359 --> 0:21:47.399 to five ounces of a sharp ginger ale. When I 0:21:47.440 --> 0:21:50.520 say sharp ginger ale, here's what I mean. We all 0:21:50.560 --> 0:21:53.160 know the big name ginger ales that are in your 0:21:53.160 --> 0:21:55.320 grocery store, which are wonderful and I use them all 0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:58.560 the time, but they're not for this drink. They can't. 0:21:58.600 --> 0:22:01.280 They can be if you want it softer, but what 0:22:01.320 --> 0:22:04.800 we really want is something that is just a little edgy. 0:22:04.880 --> 0:22:07.280 Or so you're gonna go in my grocery store. I 0:22:07.320 --> 0:22:10.000 know there's kind of a separate area on the soft 0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:14.040 drinks aisle that is clearly like these are for mixed drinks. 0:22:14.280 --> 0:22:17.439 Might have the same yeah, right where they have like 0:22:17.520 --> 0:22:21.080 the brands that are really made for bartending and mixed 0:22:21.160 --> 0:22:23.639 drink stuff. And choose one of those ginger ales, or 0:22:23.680 --> 0:22:25.439 if you have one that's a little sharp that you 0:22:25.480 --> 0:22:28.120 really love, great, and that's it. You're just gonna pour 0:22:28.160 --> 0:22:30.680 the repisoud of tequila in, pour the sharp ginger ale 0:22:30.760 --> 0:22:33.160 over it, and you are ready to serve. You can 0:22:33.160 --> 0:22:35.760 do it with a little apple slice garnish if you want. 0:22:36.240 --> 0:22:37.959 You can even dip that apple in a little bit 0:22:38.000 --> 0:22:39.919 of honey if you really want to sell this idea 0:22:39.920 --> 0:22:44.200 of hope. But it's a very simple drink, super easy 0:22:44.240 --> 0:22:48.080 to make, really easy to sip on, not too heavy. 0:22:48.200 --> 0:22:50.000 Here's a nice thing. It's also a little bit of 0:22:50.000 --> 0:22:53.440 a choose your own adventure because if you don't like tequila, 0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:54.440 that's no problem. 0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:56.040 This will work with other things. 0:22:56.200 --> 0:22:58.280 I mean, it really feel you can literally do this 0:22:58.440 --> 0:23:01.080 with your bourbon, with your gin in, with your vodka. 0:23:01.200 --> 0:23:03.400 You could do it with run like you can kind 0:23:03.400 --> 0:23:06.159 of put in whatever your spirit of choice is. But 0:23:06.240 --> 0:23:09.520 I wanted to do tequila because it just felt right. 0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:12.480 We haven't used it a bunch of this this season yet. 0:23:12.520 --> 0:23:15.760 And also I don't know, I kind of think about 0:23:15.760 --> 0:23:17.960 this as like the kind of drink they would serve 0:23:18.240 --> 0:23:21.399 at a post theater party at a club called the 0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:23.919 Pyramid Club. I know, it just feels like the right 0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:27.399 drink for it. So for the mocktail, super duper easy. 0:23:27.480 --> 0:23:30.920 All you're gonna do is you're gonna build it as 0:23:30.960 --> 0:23:34.000 it is. Since we're already dealing with a pretty diluted 0:23:34.200 --> 0:23:38.120 spirit situation here, You're just gonna up your ginger ale amount. 0:23:38.480 --> 0:23:42.480 But in addition, when you're mixing your honey and your 0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:46.679 apple juice, you're also gonna add about three quarters of 0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:51.600 an ounce of just plain water and a couple of 0:23:51.600 --> 0:23:54.080 slices of klopeno, and you're gonna mix them together and 0:23:54.160 --> 0:23:56.920 let them sit a little bit together. And you want 0:23:56.960 --> 0:23:59.240 fresh halopeno here, this is not your time for your pickle, 0:23:59.560 --> 0:24:02.720 your pickle talapeno. You're gonna let them all sit together 0:24:02.840 --> 0:24:05.280 for a little bit stirm STM storm and you'll strain 0:24:05.400 --> 0:24:07.880 that one in that case, Or if you could, if 0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:10.919 you just want to pull your halopeno slices out and 0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:13.000 you can get all the seeds, great, you just don't 0:24:13.000 --> 0:24:16.000 want any residue or bits of halopena left in there. 0:24:16.240 --> 0:24:17.840 And then that just kind of kicks it up. It 0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:20.960